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ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Tripsitinka-2009-03-16T13:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Attribution_of_quote-2009-03-16T13:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Tripsitinka-2009-03-16T13:57:00.000Z-Attribution_of_quote&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Attribution of quote&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Attribution of quote&quot;}--><h2 id="Attribution_of_quote" data-mw-thread-id="h-Attribution_of_quote-2009-03-16T13:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Attribution_of_quote-2009-03-16T13:57:00.000Z"></span>Attribution of quote<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Attribution_of_quote-2009-03-16T13:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Anacharsis&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: Attribution of 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Tripsitinka-2009-03-16T13:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Attribution_of_quote-2009-03-16T13:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Tripsitinka-2009-03-16T13:57:00.000Z-Attribution_of_quote&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Attribution of quote&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Attribution of quote&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tripsitinka-2009-03-16T13:57:00.000Z-Attribution_of_quote"></span>The article quotes 'a modern scholar' as considering the French fictional account of Anacharsis "the encyclopedia of the new cult of the antique", but it does not say who said it. </p><p>That quote seems to have come from this page: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.whoosh.org/issue56/rich1.html">http://www.whoosh.org/issue56/rich1.html</a> which attributes the remark to "Klemperer". Among the persons of any note with that last name, the most likely is <a href="/wiki/Victor_Klemperer" title="Victor Klemperer">Victor Klemperer</a>. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Tripsitinka&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Tripsitinka (page does not exist)">Tripsitinka</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tripsitinka" title="User talk:Tripsitinka">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tripsitinka" title="Special:Contributions/Tripsitinka">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Anacharsis#c-Tripsitinka-2009-03-16T13:57:00.000Z-Attribution_of_quote" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:57, 16 March 2009 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tripsitinka-2009-03-16T13:57:00.000Z-Attribution_of_quote"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-03-16T13:57:00.000Z","author":"Tripsitinka","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tripsitinka-2009-03-16T13:57:00.000Z-Attribution_of_quote","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tripsitinka-2009-03-16T13:57:00.000Z-Attribution_of_quote"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Abu_America-2009-05-16T13:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-\&quot;patriarchal\&quot;-2009-05-16T13:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Abu_America-2009-05-16T13:58:00.000Z-\&quot;patriarchal\&quot;&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;\&quot;patriarchal\&quot;&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;\&quot;patriarchal\&quot;&quot;}--><h2 id="&quot;patriarchal&quot;" data-mw-thread-id="h-&quot;patriarchal&quot;-2009-05-16T13:58:00.000Z"><span id=".22patriarchal.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-&quot;patriarchal&quot;-2009-05-16T13:58:00.000Z"></span>"patriarchal"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-&quot;patriarchal&quot;-2009-05-16T13:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Anacharsis&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section: &quot;patriarchal&quot;"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Abu_America-2009-05-16T13:58:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"patriarchal\"-2009-05-16T13:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Abu_America-2009-05-16T13:58:00.000Z-\"patriarchal\""]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Abu_America-2009-05-16T13:58:00.000Z-\"patriarchal\"","timestamp":"2009-05-16T13:58:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Abu_America-2009-05-16T13:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-\&quot;patriarchal\&quot;-2009-05-16T13:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Abu_America-2009-05-16T13:58:00.000Z-\&quot;patriarchal\&quot;&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;\&quot;patriarchal\&quot;&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;\&quot;patriarchal\&quot;&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Abu_America-2009-05-16T13:58:00.000Z-&quot;patriarchal&quot;"></span>Herodotus says nothing about the Scythians killing him because they were "patriarchal". There is nothing there in any way related to gender. It pretty strongly implies that they didn't like Cybele because she was foreign. That would also correspond with the way the classical Greeks in general, and Herodotus in particular, saw the Scythians. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Abu_America" title="User:Abu America">Abu America</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abu_America" title="User talk:Abu America">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Anacharsis#c-Abu_America-2009-05-16T13:58:00.000Z-&quot;patriarchal&quot;" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:58, 16 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Abu_America-2009-05-16T13:58:00.000Z-&quot;patriarchal&quot;"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-16T13:58:00.000Z","author":"Abu America","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Abu_America-2009-05-16T13:58:00.000Z-\"patriarchal\"","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Abu_America-2009-05-16T13:58:00.000Z-&quot;patriarchal&quot;"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Singinglemon-2010-07-19T19:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Letters_of_Anacharsis-2010-07-19T19:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Singinglemon-2010-07-19T19:36:00.000Z-Letters_of_Anacharsis&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Letters of Anacharsis&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Letters of Anacharsis&quot;}--><h2 id="Letters_of_Anacharsis" data-mw-thread-id="h-Letters_of_Anacharsis-2010-07-19T19:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Letters_of_Anacharsis-2010-07-19T19:36:00.000Z"></span>Letters of Anacharsis<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Letters_of_Anacharsis-2010-07-19T19:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Anacharsis&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: Letters of Anacharsis"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Singinglemon-2010-07-19T19:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Letters_of_Anacharsis-2010-07-19T19:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Singinglemon-2010-07-19T19:36:00.000Z-Letters_of_Anacharsis"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Singinglemon-2010-07-19T19:36:00.000Z-Letters_of_Anacharsis","timestamp":"2010-07-19T19:36:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Singinglemon-2010-07-19T19:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Letters_of_Anacharsis-2010-07-19T19:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Singinglemon-2010-07-19T19:36:00.000Z-Letters_of_Anacharsis&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Letters of Anacharsis&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Letters of Anacharsis&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Singinglemon-2010-07-19T19:36:00.000Z-Letters_of_Anacharsis"></span>I've twice now had to restore the statement in this page that the letters of Anacharsis are fictitious. Since the page also states that the letters probably date from the 3rd century BC - this is, I know, a fairly obvious and banale point to make, but I'm baffled why anyone would want to delete it. I originally thought that <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/LycianFelix" title="Special:Contributions/LycianFelix">User:LycianFelix</a> first removed the line perhaps because it might be a bit redundant, but the second time he/she removed it the reason was "Improper Citation," which I don't understand. It may be that I've made a mistake in the wording, so I'm sure we can come up with a compromise reading which everyone will be happy with. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Singinglemon&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Singinglemon (page does not exist)">Singinglemon</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Singinglemon&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Singinglemon (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Anacharsis#c-Singinglemon-2010-07-19T19:36:00.000Z-Letters_of_Anacharsis" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:36, 19 July 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Singinglemon-2010-07-19T19:36:00.000Z-Letters_of_Anacharsis"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-19T19:36:00.000Z","author":"Singinglemon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Singinglemon-2010-07-19T19:36:00.000Z-Letters_of_Anacharsis","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Singinglemon-2010-07-19T19:36:00.000Z-Letters_of_Anacharsis"></span> </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.eqiad.main‐864bbfd546‐wdtkc Cached time: 20241129100353 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1, show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.014 seconds CPU time usage: 0.214 seconds Real time usage: 0.328 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 1920/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 47012/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 83/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 11/100 Expensive parser function count: 13/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 36728/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.132/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 2863762/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 222.436 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 100.00% 222.436 1 -total 47.23% 105.050 1 Template:WikiProject_Biography 6.81% 15.153 1 Template:WikiProject_Philosophy 6.20% 13.794 1 Template:WikiProject_Greece 5.13% 11.417 1 Template:WikiProject_History 3.23% 7.194 1 Template:Find_page_text 2.61% 5.806 1 Template:WikiProject_Classical_Greece_and_Rome 1.89% 4.211 2 Template:Pagetype 1.46% 3.241 13 Template:Yesno --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:9770780:|#|:idhash:canonical and timestamp 20241129100353 and revision id 1241689122. 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