Return from the Abyss [SP campaign for 1.12/1.14]

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href="./viewtopic.php?p=601483&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601483" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=140363&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="username">skeptical_troll</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2016-08-29T16:12:57+00:00">August 29th, 2016, 4:12 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">'Return from the Abyss' is a story of a Khalifate/Dunefolk officer who, after taking part to a disastrous military expedition, is forced to seal a pact with a powerful dwarvish king and to fight at his service, in exchange of his protection. The campaign is about his efforts to find the way back home across both the underground and the surface worlds. <br> <br> The story is set later than mainline campaigns (except UtbS) but before the fall and the two suns, so the tyme cycle is standard, except obviously for the underground scenarios.<br> <br> It is divided in three parts, each with 6 playable scenarios, plus several cut scenes.<br> <br> There is a limit on total recruits: the division under your command has 100 infantry units (on medium), so you won't be able to recruit more than that in the whole campaign. If you have played the campaign I'd be very interested in knowing how many recruits left you have at the end, for balance purposes.<br> <br> You will anyway have the opportunity to recruit units from allied sides leaders which do not enter this calculation. For example, in some scenarios of the first part the player can use, beside the Khalifate infantry, also dwarves and orcs. <br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">Gameplay</strong><br> The campaign features the standard Wesnoth gameplay, but many scenarios present additional elements which will affect the fight and hence the strategy, for example water tides, sandstorms, randomly spawned enemies (used very frequently), or map split in different sections. <br> <br> There are several underground scenario, mainly in the first part. I am well aware that Khalifate units suffers in the darkness, however there are options to use (artificial) illumination as an important strategic element to make battles more interesting, very beneficial for the characteristic liminal unit of this faction. <br> <br> In general, healing capability is purposely limited, so shielding wounded units and managing experience for advancements at the right time will be important elements, in my intentions.<br> <br> Map are generally medium-sized, with a couple of small and few big ones. In most levels, the battle size is the typical Wesnoth skirmish style, except a couple of larger battles and two dungeon-crawling style scenarios. <br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">Feedback</strong><br> Any feedback and comment is appreciated, but input on scenarios 3 - 4,11 and the last two are particularly welcome, since they are the most tricky to balance.<br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">Sequel</strong><br> The campaign has now a <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=694084#p694084" class="postlink">sequel</a></div> <div class="notice"> Last edited by <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=140363&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="username">skeptical_troll</a> on October 24th, 2024, 9:13 pm, edited 6 times in total. </div> <div id="sig601483" class="signature">Culprit of <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=44545" class="postlink">Return from the Abyss</a>, <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=51830&p=651827#p651827" class="postlink">Children of the Dust</a>, <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=48642" class="postlink">The Wolves' Last Path</a>, <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=694578#p694578" class="postlink">A March of Justice</a> and <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=58782" class="postlink">Beyond the Watcher's Horizon</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p601492" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile601492"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=136866&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" 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Tale of Alan, The Golden Age<br> Co-creator of <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&p=611658#p611658" class="postlink">Era of Magic</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p601791" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile601791"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=138303&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=138303_1674989173.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=138303&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="username">Tarcil</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a 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The feeling of playing a different faction, the Caliphates, was very good, you really get the oriental atmosphere of this faction. The dialogues are damn good only the eloquent speaking of the orcish warlords irritates me a bit, as well as the jedi-master. <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":mrgreen:" title="Mr. Green"> <br> I´m really impressed and waiting for the next part joyfully.</div> <div id="sig601791" class="signature">Creator of "In Defense of Kharos" <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=56628" class="postlink">viewtopic.php?t=56628</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p601792" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile601792"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=136866&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=136866_1530016694.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=136866&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="username">ForestDragon</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=136866&sr=posts&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1">1856</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> March 6th, 2014, 1:32 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Ukraine</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content601792"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=601792&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601792">Re: Return from the Abyss [WIP campaign for 1.12]</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=601792&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=601792&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601792" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=136866&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="username">ForestDragon</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2016-09-03T15:38:04+00:00">September 3rd, 2016, 3:38 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite>Tarcil wrote:</cite>The story of this (short) campaign was the best one i´ve ever played. The feeling of playing a different faction, the Caliphates, was very good, you really get the oriental atmosphere of this faction. The dialogues are damn good only the eloquent speaking of the orcish warlords irritates me a bit, as well as the jedi-master. <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":mrgreen:" title="Mr. Green"> <br> I´m really impressed and waiting for the next part joyfully.</div></blockquote> me too, and yeah, those orcish aristocrats/yodas are just downright weird <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_laugh.gif" width="16" height="16" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing"></div> <div id="sig601792" class="signature">My active add-ons: <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=53932" class="postlink">The Great Steppe Era</a>,<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=44979" class="postlink">XP Bank</a>,<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=47723&p=622127#p622127" class="postlink">Alliances Mod</a>,<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=669163#p669163" class="postlink">Pestilence</a>,<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=55714" class="postlink">GSE+EoMa</a>,<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=671413" class="postlink">Ogre Crusaders</a>,<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=680768" class="postlink">Battle Royale</a>,<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=57445" class="postlink">EoMaifier</a>,<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=57496" class="postlink">Steppeifier</a>,<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=687440" class="postlink">Hardcoreifier</a><br> My inactive add-ons (1.12): Tale of Alan, The Golden Age<br> Co-creator of <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&p=611658#p611658" class="postlink">Era of Magic</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p601795" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile601795"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=138303&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=138303_1674989173.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=138303&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="username">Tarcil</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=138303&sr=posts&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1">103</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> October 31st, 2014, 11:46 am</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content601795"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=601795&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601795">Re: Return from the Abyss [WIP campaign for 1.12]</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=601795&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=601795&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601795" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=138303&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="username">Tarcil</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2016-09-03T15:44:44+00:00">September 3rd, 2016, 3:44 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">Yeah. <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_laugh.gif" width="16" height="16" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing"> <br> I guess, skeptical troll like to make great dialogues, but in this case, I would say, to give the shaman the eloquent speaking of the warlord and made the warlord at least not speaking like a aristocrat. Just an easier grammar should do it.</div> <div id="sig601795" class="signature">Creator of "In Defense of Kharos" <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=56628" class="postlink">viewtopic.php?t=56628</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p601797" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile601797"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=136866&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=136866_1530016694.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=136866&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="username">ForestDragon</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=136866&sr=posts&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1">1856</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> March 6th, 2014, 1:32 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Ukraine</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content601797"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=601797&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601797">Re: Return from the Abyss [WIP campaign for 1.12]</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=601797&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=601797&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601797" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=136866&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="username">ForestDragon</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2016-09-03T15:56:03+00:00">September 3rd, 2016, 3:56 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite>Tarcil wrote:</cite>Yeah. <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_laugh.gif" width="16" height="16" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing"> <br> I guess, skeptical troll like to make great dialogues, but in this case, I would say, to give the shaman the eloquent speaking of the warlord and made the warlord at least not speaking like a aristocrat. Just an easier grammar should do it.</div></blockquote> yup, i think the yoda speech should be reserved for 10,000 years old elvish sages <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":P" title="Razz"></div> <div id="sig601797" class="signature">My active add-ons: <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=53932" class="postlink">The Great Steppe Era</a>,<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=44979" class="postlink">XP Bank</a>,<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=47723&p=622127#p622127" class="postlink">Alliances Mod</a>,<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=669163#p669163" class="postlink">Pestilence</a>,<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=55714" class="postlink">GSE+EoMa</a>,<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=671413" class="postlink">Ogre Crusaders</a>,<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=680768" class="postlink">Battle Royale</a>,<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=57445" class="postlink">EoMaifier</a>,<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=57496" class="postlink">Steppeifier</a>,<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=687440" class="postlink">Hardcoreifier</a><br> My inactive add-ons (1.12): Tale of Alan, The Golden Age<br> Co-creator of <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&p=611658#p611658" class="postlink">Era of Magic</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p601802" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile601802"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=140363&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=140363_1452892654.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=140363&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="username">skeptical_troll</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=140363&sr=posts&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1">526</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> August 31st, 2015, 11:06 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content601802"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=601802&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601802">Re: Return from the Abyss [WIP campaign for 1.12]</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=601802&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=601802&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601802" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=140363&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="username">skeptical_troll</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2016-09-03T17:29:25+00:00">September 3rd, 2016, 5:29 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite>Tarcil wrote:</cite>The story of this (short) campaign was the best one i´ve ever played. The feeling of playing a different faction, the Caliphates, was very good, you really get the oriental atmosphere of this faction. The dialogues are damn good only the eloquent speaking of the orcish warlords irritates me a bit, as well as the jedi-master. </div></blockquote> Why do you have this prejudice on orcs? Actually in the second part you'll find out that he has a PhD in linguistic at Oxford <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_whistle.gif" width="28" height="15" alt=":whistle:" title="Whistle"> <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_whistle.gif" width="28" height="15" alt=":whistle:" title="Whistle"> <br> Just joking, thanks for the kind words! I am not a native speaker, so it's generally hard for me to catch the right speaking register. I wanted the warlord to sound cunning and subtle, not the typical 'me orc me kill you!', but if it sounds like an aristocrat there is definitely something wrong! I'll try to make he saying the same things in a more 'orcish' way. <br> <br> As for the shaman: I wanted to characterize him as an old, weird and wise guy, so a Yoda-like speech was quite fitting (beside being a due tribute to an epic scifi character). However, if that looks too silly and spoils immersion I'm gonna switch to something else. I admit that now whenever I write/read dialogues I can't help but thinking of his words in Yoda's voice <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":D" title="Very Happy"></div> <div id="sig601802" class="signature">Culprit of <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=44545" class="postlink">Return from the Abyss</a>, <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=51830&p=651827#p651827" class="postlink">Children of the Dust</a>, <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=48642" class="postlink">The Wolves' Last Path</a>, <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=694578#p694578" class="postlink">A March of Justice</a> and <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=58782" class="postlink">Beyond the Watcher's Horizon</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p601887" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile601887"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=128176&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=128176_1341673905.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=128176&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="username">taptap</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=128176&sr=posts&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1">980</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> October 6th, 2011, 5:42 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content601887"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=601887&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601887">Re: Return from the Abyss [WIP campaign for 1.12]</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=601887&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=601887&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601887" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=128176&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="username">taptap</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2016-09-05T09:21:38+00:00">September 5th, 2016, 9:21 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Great start. <br> <br> 1st scenario is hard (on difficult). Did not manage in first attempt and then only with heavy losses (10 out of 80 recruits dead). Recruited some more once I lured out the elf blocking the path to the caves, that saved the day. Ally would be much more useful if not moving all units on ice to get 12,14 village.</div> <dl class="attachbox"> <dt> Attachments </dt> <dd> <dl class="file"> <dt><img src="./images/upload_icons/zip.gif" alt="" /> <a class="postlink" href="./download/file.php?id=71898&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1">RftA-Inglorious_Campaign_replay.gz</a></dt> <dd>(36.86 KiB) Downloaded 820 times</dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> <div id="sig601887" class="signature">I am a Saurian Skirmisher: I'm a real pest, especially at night.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p601889" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile601889"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=140363&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=140363_1452892654.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=140363&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="username">skeptical_troll</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=140363&sr=posts&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1">526</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> August 31st, 2015, 11:06 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content601889"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=601889&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601889">Re: Return from the Abyss [WIP campaign for 1.12]</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=601889&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=601889&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601889" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=140363&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="username">skeptical_troll</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2016-09-05T10:26:02+00:00">September 5th, 2016, 10:26 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Thanks for the replay! <br> I think you are in good shape: heavy losses should be expected here, you have to open a breach in little time on poor-defense terrain against elves, which retaliate all kinds of attack. You also managed to save the loyals (the lvl 2 in particular will help at the beginning of the next scenario). It'd be good to give Arzeh a couple of kills, as you'll need his cure ability soon, but I know that could be risky. <br> <br> I can tweak a bit with the allied AI, at the moment I just set the 'defensive' grouping. Main result is that now he focuses on the weakest enemy (on medium and easy sometimes he even kills the sylph!). With a better behavior he'll probably defend better on the west and give the player some more time to break the encirclement.</div> <div id="sig601889" class="signature">Culprit of <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=44545" class="postlink">Return from the Abyss</a>, <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=51830&p=651827#p651827" class="postlink">Children of the Dust</a>, <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=48642" class="postlink">The Wolves' Last Path</a>, <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=694578#p694578" class="postlink">A March of Justice</a> and <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=58782" class="postlink">Beyond the Watcher's Horizon</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p601914" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile601914"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=128176&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=128176_1341673905.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=128176&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="username">taptap</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=128176&sr=posts&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1">980</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> October 6th, 2011, 5:42 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content601914"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=601914&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601914">Re: Return from the Abyss [WIP campaign for 1.12]</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=601914&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=601914&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601914" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=128176&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="username">taptap</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2016-09-05T20:38:07+00:00">September 5th, 2016, 8:38 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">"Good shape" - added a failure - timeout, about to kill troll and goblin, spider and whelp leader already dead - in Trial at Arms. Trying to handle the mud faction first (and already moving the runemaster to next position) was probably a mistake, but how could I know. Even so I had not that many idle units most of the time. And I thought it was going good when I took out the first two spiders pretty early.<br> <br> (First scenario: The one tweak I would consider is giving that one 12,14 or was it 14,12 village to the ally, so they don't beeline for it into bad territory. I moved a unit to help against green, otherwise I would have had them in my back in force. As I indeed had in earlier attempts. Similarly the one unit I placed south kept plenty of units busy.)</div> <dl class="attachbox"> <dt> Attachments </dt> <dd> <dl class="file"> <dt><img src="./images/upload_icons/zip.gif" alt="" /> <a class="postlink" href="./download/file.php?id=71905&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1">RftA-Trial_of_Arms_replay.gz</a></dt> <dd><em>Failure in 60 turns.</em></dd> <dd>(73.23 KiB) Downloaded 819 times</dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> <div id="sig601914" class="signature">I am a Saurian Skirmisher: I'm a real pest, especially at night.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p601916" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile601916"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=138069&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=138069_1411349038.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=138069&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" style="color: #008000;" class="username-coloured">Inky</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Forum Moderator</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=138069&sr=posts&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1">528</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> September 22nd, 2014, 1:02 am</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> USA</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content601916"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=601916&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601916">Re: Return from the Abyss [WIP campaign for 1.12]</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=601916&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=601916&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601916" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=138069&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" style="color: #008000;" class="username-coloured">Inky</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2016-09-05T21:51:59+00:00">September 5th, 2016, 9:51 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><span style="text-decoration:underline">Return from the Abyss v. 0.0.2 / Wesnoth 1.12.6 / Hard</span><br> Awesome campaign so far! I'm on the third scenario so far; I really like the dialogue and the miners setting fires is really cool!<br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">S1 (Inglorious Campaign)</strong><br> Replay summary: This was quite a challenge. I spent all my gold and sent everyone straight east, and broke through the eastern forces with the help of the Arif and Naffat's lawful attacks during the first day. With the western army catching up near the end, I used the eastern enemy leader's keep to recruit some reinforcements to help fend them off. It was a tense battle! 12 recruits, 6 losses, finished turn 18/22.<br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">S2 (Trial of Arms)</strong><br> -I think the turn limit is too short here; like taptap I wasn't even close to finishing on time on my first attempt (there's actually another scorpion leader in the northeast). My next attempt was closer, but I still needed a few extra turns (I debugged myself 3 extra turns <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":P" title="Razz">)<br> -It would be convenient to have some kind of overlay or trait to indicate which miner(s) still can use their torch.<br> <br> Replay summary: 160+35 starting gold. Split forces in half, with half dealing with goblins and half going for the mudcrawlers. Killed mudcrawler leader early on (turn 23). Then all my forces went to kill the goblin leader on turn 40; then some units split off to kill the scorpions and everyone rushed south to deal with the trolls. I had made the mistake of triggering the trolls from the south early on before I was ready, so they stole several villages and got the extra income. I ended up needing 3 extra turns to finish. 7 losses (not counting 2 dead miners)<br> <br> --------<br> A couple bugs:<br> -In scenario 3 (Old Castle) none of the centipedes' images show up (the image paths are missing "units/" in front).<br> -No idea what the cause of this one is; sometimes my units will randomly lose a few HP (I noticed this happening in scenarios 2 and 3). E.g. in this savefile (using Show Replay), on turn 2 Arzeh and a miner lose some HP and on turn 3 Eridon lost some HP. <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="file"> <dt><img src="./images/upload_icons/zip.gif" alt="" /> <a class="postlink" href="./download/file.php?id=71906&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1">RftA-The_Old_Castle_Turn_3.gz</a></dt> <dd><em>Units randomly lose some HP at beginning of turns</em></dd> <dd>(72.37 KiB) Downloaded 806 times</dd> </dl> </div> Some typos/dialogue suggestions: <div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px"><div class="quotetitle" style="vertical-align:middle;display:inline-block"><strong>Spoiler:</strong> <input class="button1" style="font-size:0.8em" type="button" value="Show" onclick="if (this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].style.display != '') { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].style.display = ''; this.value = 'Hide'; this.innerText = ''; } else { this.parentNode.parentNode.getElementsByTagName('div')[1].style.display = 'none'; this.value = 'Show'; this.innerText = ''; }"></div><div class="quotecontent" style="display:none"><strong class="text-strong">01 Inglorious Campaign</strong><br> Line #:<br> 69: The surface, or 'out of the shell' as they refer to it, <span style="text-decoration:underline">wasn't</span> but a pale memory in my mind -> was<br> 69: Bazar -> Bazaar<br> 74: At the beginning they <span style="text-decoration:underline">simulated</span> weakness and fear by retreating swiftly -> feigned<br> 214: I told your father that I would have lead you safe home, I intend honoring my promise. <br> -> I told your father that I would lead you safely home, and I intend to honor my promise.<br> <br> <strong class="text-strong">02 At the Border</strong><br> 23: We <span style="text-decoration:underline">run in</span> the cave -> ran into<br> 23: We hoped that it would <span style="text-decoration:underline">led</span> us on the high peaks -> lead<br> 23: We soon <span style="text-decoration:underline">realize</span> -> realized<br> 150: Go ask him if he's the time and the will to grant them audience -> missing . at end<br> 235: <span style="text-decoration:underline">however</span>, we are in dire need of men. -> However<br> 259: I'll chose your first task so that you can <span style="text-decoration:underline">proof</span> that. -> prove<br> 275: What enters and exits our territory is <span style="text-decoration:underline">not matter</span> of the elves. -> no concern / no business<br> 315: Bah, what are you gonna do? <span style="text-decoration:underline">Planting</span> trees in our caves? -> Plant [p.s. 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Since I think it relies too much on knowing the map in advance, I added a small dialogue when you kill the troll whelp leader in the central hall, where Eridon explains what enemies to expect in the various secondary mines, and how strong they are. Hope this help. I'm also wondering if the mechanism of miners tearing down walls is too confusing (i.e. hard to understand where they can do it). <br> <blockquote><div><cite>taptap wrote:</cite>First scenario: The one tweak I would consider is giving that one 12,14 or was it 14,12 village to the ally, so they don't beeline for it into bad territory.</div></blockquote> Done it as well!<br> <br> EDIT: <br> Thanks Inky for the corrections, I implemented them in the new version!<br> Hopefully I also fixed centipedes' images problem. Quite weirdly, I had no problem myself in visualizing them, so I'm not 100% sure that they are correctly displayed now. I hope so, cause they are really nicely drawn and animated (I taken them from 'age of tentacles') <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_pensive.gif" width="17" height="16" alt=":hmm:" title="Pensive"> <br> I also added an overlay to miners who can still set fire (reused the one I had for campfires in HotE). <br> <blockquote><div><cite>inky wrote:</cite>No idea what the cause of this one is; sometimes my units will randomly lose a few HP (I noticed this happening in scenarios 2 and 3). E.g. in this savefile (using Show Replay), on turn 2 Arzeh and a miner lose some HP and on turn 3 Eridon lost some HP.</div></blockquote> ok, I got no clue about this one, will need to have a look <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_eek.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked"></div> <div id="sig601918" class="signature">Culprit of <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=44545" class="postlink">Return from the Abyss</a>, <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=51830&p=651827#p651827" class="postlink">Children of the Dust</a>, <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=48642" class="postlink">The Wolves' Last Path</a>, <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=694578#p694578" class="postlink">A March of Justice</a> and <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=58782" class="postlink">Beyond the Watcher's Horizon</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p601944" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile601944"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=132476&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=132476_1408902907.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=132476&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" style="color: #66AA99;" class="username-coloured">Paulomat4</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Moderator Emeritus</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=132476&sr=posts&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1">730</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> October 16th, 2012, 3:32 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Wesmere library, probably summoning Zhangor</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content601944"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=601944&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601944">Re: Return from the Abyss [WIP campaign for 1.12]</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=601944&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=601944&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601944" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=132476&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" style="color: #66AA99;" class="username-coloured">Paulomat4</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2016-09-06T09:51:15+00:00">September 6th, 2016, 9:51 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Hey man, gave it a first try and really enjoyed it so far. <br> I'm at scenario 24 now, and after exploring the castle the objectives tell me to resist 24 turns OR do something else. The problem is that after reaching turn 24 I just lose the scenario. <blockquote class="uncited"><div>-No idea what the cause of this one is; sometimes my units will randomly lose a few HP (I noticed this happening in scenarios 2 and 3)</div></blockquote> I can confirm this happening to me as well</div> <div id="sig601944" class="signature">Creator of <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=39512" class="postlink">Dawn of Thunder</a> and <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=39771" class="postlink">Global Unitmarkers</a><br> <br> <span style="font-size:85%;line-height:116%"><em class="text-italics">"I thought Naga's used semi-automatic crossbows with incendiary thermite arrows . . . my beliefs that this race is awesome are now shattered." - Evil Earl</em></span></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p601946" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile601946"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=128176&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=128176_1341673905.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=128176&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="username">taptap</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=128176&sr=posts&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1">980</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> October 6th, 2011, 5:42 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content601946"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=601946&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601946">Re: Return from the Abyss [WIP campaign for 1.12]</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=601946&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=601946&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601946" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=128176&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="username">taptap</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2016-09-06T10:04:56+00:00">September 6th, 2016, 10:04 am</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite>Paulomat4 wrote:</cite>I'm at scenario 24 now, and after exploring the castle the objectives tell me to resist 24 turns OR do something else.</div></blockquote> I definitely find it amazing how far ppl manage to play in this campaign... Does it even have 24 scenarios? <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_pensive.gif" width="17" height="16" alt=":hmm:" title="Pensive"></div> <div id="sig601946" class="signature">I am a Saurian Skirmisher: I'm a real pest, especially at night.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p601947" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile601947"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=140363&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=140363_1452892654.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=140363&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="username">skeptical_troll</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=140363&sr=posts&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1">526</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> August 31st, 2015, 11:06 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content601947"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=601947&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601947">Re: Return from the Abyss [WIP campaign for 1.12]</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=601947&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=601947&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1#p601947" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=140363&sid=cae3ddc2cf9d6f4e402c73877a9514f1" class="username">skeptical_troll</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2016-09-06T10:09:16+00:00">September 6th, 2016, 10:09 am</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite>Paulomat4 wrote:</cite>and after exploring the castle the objectives tell me to resist 24 turns OR do something else. The problem is that after reaching turn 24 I just lose the scenario.</div></blockquote> Mmm ok, it's probably not very clear. The 'or' is between resisting 24 turns and closing the tunnels. The third objective instead is mandatory (Find more information about Thoadarak king's power), so if turns run out without doing that, it's a loss. Any suggestion on how to make this crystal clear? adding '(mandatory)' after the third objective?<br> <br> I can confirm that the 2HP random loss also in my case, but I really don't know where it comes from. It seems like a weird thing to get from WML..<br> <br> @taptap: he meant scenario 3 (4 counting cutscenes), this part only has 6 playable scenarios. 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