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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20240320095400-NFT_linkai"></span>Pastebėjau, kad visi <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.national-football-teams.com/v2/player.php?id=4000">National-football-teams.com national-football-teams.com/v2</a> su senais kodais v2 neveikia. Praėjusią savaitę LT-wiki Graikijos futbolininkus perdariau, bet ten tik Graikija. Kiti jau ne pirmus metus neveikiantys ir su vienintele nuoroda į NFT. Jeigu kada futbolistus šamaninsi, tai galėtum karts nuo karto ir linkus switch perdaryti, nes tokių liewakų daug, net labai daug. -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20240320095400-NFT_linkai" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:54, 20 kovo 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20240320095400-NFT_linkai"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20240320095400-NFT_linkai"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20240320101700-Makenzis-20240320095400"></span>Ou, tuo nuorodų tikrai daug esu į šitą pridėjęs. Gal kaip nors su botu pavyktų perdaryti (pvz., pasinaudojant Vikidata), nes darbelio rankiniu būdu būtų labai daug. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20240320101700-Makenzis-20240320095400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:17, 20 kovo 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20240320101700-Makenzis-20240320095400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20240320101700-Makenzis-20240320095400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20240320102200-Hugo.arg-20240320101700"></span>Matau, kad bandai atnaujinti, bet lašas jūroje. Kai su graikais keičiau, tai dar statistiką naujinau. Diena praėjo labai greitai. O tų graikų ne tiek jau daug. /// Aš botais, semi-botais nesinaudoju, tai sugalvojau pasikonsultuoti. Kažkaip reikėtų išspręsti šitą reikalą. -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20240320102200-Hugo.arg-20240320101700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:22, 20 kovo 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20240320102200-Hugo.arg-20240320101700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20240320102200-Hugo.arg-20240320101700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Homo_ergaster-20240320102400-Makenzis-20240320102200"></span>Turim šablonėlį, kuris ima duomenis iš Vikidatos (žr. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jerzy_Dudek&curid=177074&diff=7228699&oldid=6841053">[1]</a>). Tai galiu su botu visus tuos v2 pakeisti. Tik kai kur gali nebūti duomenų Vikidatoje. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojas:Homo ergaster">Homo ergaster</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Homo ergaster">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Homo_ergaster-20240320102400-Makenzis-20240320102200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:24, 20 kovo 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Homo_ergaster-20240320102400-Makenzis-20240320102200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Homo_ergaster-20240320102400-Makenzis-20240320102200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Homo_ergaster-20240320102800-Homo_ergaster-20240320102400"></span>Ne į temą, bet būtų gerai tuos holodomorus suarchyvuoti, nes automatiškai dubliuojasi, naudojant funkciją "atsakyti". --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojas:Homo ergaster">Homo ergaster</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Homo ergaster">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Homo_ergaster-20240320102800-Homo_ergaster-20240320102400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:28, 20 kovo 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Homo_ergaster-20240320102800-Homo_ergaster-20240320102400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Homo_ergaster-20240320102800-Homo_ergaster-20240320102400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20240320104400-NFT_linkai"></span>Tai darom v2 botu, tebūnie šablonas. Jeigu nėra wikidatose, tai ne bėda... bet juk senais laikais tik super futbolistus kurdavo, manau bus jiems tos wikidatos. O jeigu ir nebūtų, menkas nuostolis. Linkas vis tiek nebeveikia. -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20240320104400-NFT_linkai" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:44, 20 kovo 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20240320104400-NFT_linkai"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20240320104400-NFT_linkai"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Homo_ergaster-20240320104500-Makenzis-20240320104400"></span>Gerai, darom. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojas:Homo ergaster">Homo ergaster</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Homo ergaster">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Homo_ergaster-20240320104500-Makenzis-20240320104400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:45, 20 kovo 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Homo_ergaster-20240320104500-Makenzis-20240320104400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Homo_ergaster-20240320104500-Makenzis-20240320104400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20240320104500-Makenzis-20240320104400"></span>Tik, pastebėjau, kad dažnai tasai NFT linkas nukištas prie išorinių nuorodų, o ne kaip šaltinis REF, citata. -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20240320104500-Makenzis-20240320104400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:45, 20 kovo 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20240320104500-Makenzis-20240320104400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20240320104500-Makenzis-20240320104400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Homo_ergaster-20240320104700-Makenzis-20240320104500"></span>Tai šituos botas paskui pakeis, o dabar keičia tik kur ref. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojas:Homo ergaster">Homo ergaster</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Homo ergaster">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Homo_ergaster-20240320104700-Makenzis-20240320104500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:47, 20 kovo 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Homo_ergaster-20240320104700-Makenzis-20240320104500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Homo_ergaster-20240320104700-Makenzis-20240320104500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="geltona_+_raudona" data-mw-thread-id="h-geltona_+_raudona-20240403075500"><span id="geltona_.2B_raudona"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-geltona_+_raudona-20240403075500"></span>geltona + raudona<span data-mw-comment-end="h-geltona_+_raudona-20240403075500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section's source code: geltona + raudona"><span>redaguoti vikitekstą</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20240403075500-geltona_+_raudona"></span>Būdavo anksčiau geltona + raudona kortelė: yel+yel ir galų gale raudona. Aka <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Yellow_card.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Booked in the 53-as minute"><img alt="Yellow card" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Yellow_card.svg/10px-Yellow_card.svg.png" decoding="async" width="10" height="13" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Yellow_card.svg/15px-Yellow_card.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Yellow_card.svg/20px-Yellow_card.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="260"/></a></span><span style="position:relative; right:-5px;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Yellow_card.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Booked again"><img alt="Yellow card" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Yellow_card.svg/10px-Yellow_card.svg.png" decoding="async" width="10" height="13" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Yellow_card.svg/15px-Yellow_card.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Yellow_card.svg/20px-Yellow_card.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="260"/></a></span><span style="position:relative; left:-5px;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Red_card.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Sent off in the 53-as minute"><img alt="Red card" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e7/Red_card.svg/10px-Red_card.svg.png" decoding="async" width="10" height="13" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e7/Red_card.svg/15px-Red_card.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e7/Red_card.svg/20px-Red_card.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="260"/></a></span><span style="font-size: 10px; vertical-align: middle;"> 53'</span></span><span style="position:relative; left:-5px;"></span><span style="position:relative; left:-5px;"> <a href="/wiki/Dmitri_Mandr%C3%AEcenco" title="Dmitri Mandrîcenco">Dmitri Mandrîcenco</a>. Gal žinai, kodėl šablonas toksai nebeveikia? Kur sudėliojau yel+yel, ten tik pavardės liko... Veikia tik <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Red_card.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Sent off in the 53-as minute"><img alt="Red card" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e7/Red_card.svg/10px-Red_card.svg.png" decoding="async" width="10" height="13" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e7/Red_card.svg/15px-Red_card.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e7/Red_card.svg/20px-Red_card.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="260"/></a></span><span style="font-size: 10px; vertical-align: middle;"> 53'</span> 0+minutės kaip tiesioginė raudona. -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20240403075500-geltona_+_raudona" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:55, 3 balandžio 2024 (EEST)</a> </span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20240403075500-geltona_+_raudona"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20240403075500-geltona_+_raudona"></span></p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20240403080000-Makenzis-20240403075500"></span>Ten CD, kaip įprasta, užsimano pakaitalioti gerai veikiančius šablonus, kad veiktų nebe taip. Atšaukiau. Pažiūrėk, ar veikia. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20240403080000-Makenzis-20240403075500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:00, 3 balandžio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20240403080000-Makenzis-20240403075500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20240403080000-Makenzis-20240403075500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20240403080600-Hugo.arg-20240403080000"></span>Ačiū. Veikia /// Joo, galėjau iš karto suprasti, kas ten toks ale wunderbach`as. Bent užsiimtų kažkuo naudingu. 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You have redirected the template to <a href="/wiki/%C5%A0ablonas:Cc-by-sa-3.0" title="Šablonas:Cc-by-sa-3.0">Šablonas:Cc-by-sa-3.0</a>. Can you tell why? --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:MGA73" title="Naudotojas:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:MGA73" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:MGA73">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-MGA73-20240518190700-Šablonas:GFDL-self" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:07, 18 gegužės 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240518190700-Šablonas:GFDL-self"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240518190700-Šablonas:GFDL-self"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20240518191800-MGA73-20240518190700"></span>Hello. Because Wikimedia Commons transferred from GFDL to CC, and there were plenty local images at lt.wikipedia with GFDL license. Many authors of these images were already inactive or didn't cared about relicensing. So, in order not to lose these valuable images because of some bureaucratic nuisance while moving them to Commons, I decided simply change the license template. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20240518191800-MGA73-20240518190700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:18, 18 gegužės 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20240518191800-MGA73-20240518190700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20240518191800-MGA73-20240518190700"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240623101200-Hugo.arg-20240518191800"></span>Okay thank you. Only the copyright holder can relicense files (unless the file is eligible for a relicense because it was uploaded before August 2009 per <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:GFDL_1.3_relicensing_criteria" class="extiw" title="c:Commons:GFDL 1.3 relicensing criteria">c:Commons:GFDL 1.3 relicensing criteria</a>). But it seems that most files are dual licensed with GFDL and Cc-by-sa-3.0. So the files can still be moved to Commons. So I'm not sure there is a problem with Commons.</dd> <dd>If the problem is the license migration I can help fix that. I just need a bot flag.</dd> <dd>I noticed that some files does not have a license. For example <a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Reconstruction_of_bicycle_trail_of_Neringa_.jpeg" title="Vaizdas:Reconstruction of bicycle trail of Neringa .jpeg">Vaizdas:Reconstruction of bicycle trail of Neringa .jpeg</a>. A bot can mark such files.</dd> <dd>If you want to move files to Commons then it could be a good idea to add <a href="/wiki/%C5%A0ablonas:Information" class="mw-redirect" title="Šablonas:Information">Template:Information</a> first. It will make the transfer much easier. For example on files like <a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Kiduli%C5%B3_dvaro_gr%C5%ABd%C5%B3_sand%C4%97lis_2024.jpg" title="Vaizdas:Kidulių dvaro grūdų sandėlis 2024.jpg">Vaizdas:Kidulių dvaro grūdų sandėlis 2024.jpg</a>. If <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama" class="extiw" title="c:Commons:Freedom of panorama">c:Commons:Freedom of panorama</a> allow that. But even if file can't be moved it would still be good to have the information template to make sure source and author is there.</dd> <dd>I'm not really active on this wiki so if you ping me there is a better chance for a fast reply :-) --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:MGA73" title="Naudotojas:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:MGA73" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:MGA73">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-MGA73-20240623101200-Hugo.arg-20240518191800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:12, 23 birželio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240623101200-Hugo.arg-20240518191800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240623101200-Hugo.arg-20240518191800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240623101500-MGA73-20240623101200"></span>For files that can't be moved to Commons perhaps create a template like <a href="https://lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veidne:FoP-Latvia" class="extiw" title="lv:Veidne:FoP-Latvia">lv:Veidne:FoP-Latvia</a>. --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:MGA73" title="Naudotojas:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:MGA73" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:MGA73">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-MGA73-20240623101500-MGA73-20240623101200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 23 birželio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240623101500-MGA73-20240623101200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240623101500-MGA73-20240623101200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20240623104900-Šablonas:GFDL-self"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:MGA73" title="Naudotojas:MGA73">MGA73</a>: I regularly move acceptable local pictures to Commons using Commons helper and fix their infoboxes there, so no problem. I think, there was a template for the panorama restricted files which aren't ok for Commons but now I can't find it. Ah, another thing why I merged GFDL and CC templates is that some users use only GFDL-self template because of old habit and now to ask them to change templates at every photo file is a bother. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20240623104900-Šablonas:GFDL-self" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:49, 23 birželio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20240623104900-Šablonas:GFDL-self"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20240623104900-Šablonas:GFDL-self"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240623120200-Hugo.arg-20240623104900"></span>Yes it is easier with the redirect but it would be more correct that the users added the correct license themselves. :-) Do you have any idea how many files are eligible for Commons? If it is many a bot may be us use even if you can do it by hand. I fixed files on jawiki and about 80 k files were moved in one year. --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:MGA73" title="Naudotojas:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:MGA73" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:MGA73">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-MGA73-20240623120200-Hugo.arg-20240623104900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:02, 23 birželio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240623120200-Hugo.arg-20240623104900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240623120200-Hugo.arg-20240623104900"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20240623130400-Šablonas:GFDL-self"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:MGA73" title="Naudotojas:MGA73">MGA73</a>: There are very few now, as I transferred most of valuable and eligible pictures to Commons. Now only some users still upload pictures locally, so bot help isn't necessary. In fact, we added CC license template to older pictures using bot, so now concern is only new pictures uploaded with CFDL license. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20240623130400-Šablonas:GFDL-self" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:04, 23 birželio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20240623130400-Šablonas:GFDL-self"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20240623130400-Šablonas:GFDL-self"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240623131500-Hugo.arg-20240623130400"></span>Sounds good that old files are fixed :-) --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:MGA73" title="Naudotojas:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:MGA73" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:MGA73">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-MGA73-20240623131500-Hugo.arg-20240623130400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 23 birželio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240623131500-Hugo.arg-20240623130400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240623131500-Hugo.arg-20240623130400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240915114800-MGA73-20240623131500"></span>I wonder if the files in <a href="/wiki/Kategorija:Jau_Commons" title="Kategorija:Jau Commons">Kategorija:Jau Commons</a> can be deleted? If deleted it will be easier to see how many files that are left that can also be moved to Commons. --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:MGA73" title="Naudotojas:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:MGA73" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:MGA73">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-MGA73-20240915114800-MGA73-20240623131500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:48, 15 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240915114800-MGA73-20240623131500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240915114800-MGA73-20240623131500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Homo_ergaster-20240915121200-Šablonas:GFDL-self"></span>Kai kurias ištryniau (kurioms niekas negresia), reikės peržiūrėti ir kitas. Kai kurios iliustracijos prastos kokybės, menkavertės, kokia prasmė jas iš viso kažkur kelti? --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojas:Homo ergaster">Homo ergaster</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Homo ergaster">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Homo_ergaster-20240915121200-Šablonas:GFDL-self" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:12, 15 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Homo_ergaster-20240915121200-Šablonas:GFDL-self"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Homo_ergaster-20240915121200-Šablonas:GFDL-self"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240915192300-Homo_ergaster-20240915121200"></span>Thank you <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojas:Homo ergaster">Homo ergaster</a>! You are right. Perhaps some of the files should just have been deleted. So perhaps it would be good to look at <a href="/wiki/Specialus:Nenaudojami_paveiksl%C4%97liai" title="Specialus:Nenaudojami paveikslėliai">Specialus:Nenaudojami_paveikslėliai</a> and delete all non-free files and low quality files. --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:MGA73" title="Naudotojas:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:MGA73" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:MGA73">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-MGA73-20240915192300-Homo_ergaster-20240915121200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:23, 15 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240915192300-Homo_ergaster-20240915121200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240915192300-Homo_ergaster-20240915121200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20241006153100-Šablonas:GFDL-self"></span>Hello again! I noticed that <a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:%C5%A0iaur%C4%97s_pa%C5%A1vaist%C4%97_Jotainiuose_2024-05-11.jpg" title="Vaizdas:Šiaurės pašvaistė Jotainiuose 2024-05-11.jpg">Vaizdas:Šiaurės pašvaistė Jotainiuose 2024-05-11.jpg</a> was uploaded as GFDL-self in 2024 and then moved to Commons as both GFDL and Cc-by-sa-3.0. I think that it is a problem. If it was a file before 2009 that was eligible for a license migration then it would not be a big problem. </p><p>I have fixed a lot of files on many wikis so I think the best would be to remove the redirect and fix the files the proper way. It will be easy if I get a bot flag (or someone with a bot will help). Then we can also fix files licensed with GFDL. --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:MGA73" title="Naudotojas:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:MGA73" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:MGA73">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-MGA73-20241006153100-Šablonas:GFDL-self" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:31, 6 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20241006153100-Šablonas:GFDL-self"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20241006153100-Šablonas:GFDL-self"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20241006171500-MGA73-20241006153100"></span>Hello, <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:MGA73" title="Naudotojas:MGA73">MGA73</a>! Maybe You could address this problem to <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojas:Homo ergaster">Naudotojas:Homo ergaster</a>, who manages bot and could help You to fix these templates. I don't know, if we currently have any active bureaucrats to give You a bot flag. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20241006171500-MGA73-20241006153100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:15, 6 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20241006171500-MGA73-20241006153100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20241006171500-MGA73-20241006153100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Homo_ergaster-20241006171800-Hugo.arg-20241006171500"></span>I'd be glad to help. --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojas:Homo ergaster">Homo ergaster</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Homo ergaster">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Homo_ergaster-20241006171800-Hugo.arg-20241006171500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:18, 6 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Homo_ergaster-20241006171800-Hugo.arg-20241006171500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Homo_ergaster-20241006171800-Hugo.arg-20241006171500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20241006173500-Homo_ergaster-20241006171800"></span>Thank you <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> and <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojas:Homo ergaster">Homo ergaster</a>. I suggest that we first add the relevant templates so all the files that may be eligible for a relicense end up in a category like <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:License_migration_candidates" class="extiw" title="c:Category:License migration candidates">c:Category:License migration candidates</a>. Then we can make a plan when we know the number of files. Off topic: Perhaps update <a href="/wiki/MediaWiki:Licenses" title="MediaWiki:Licenses">MediaWiki:Licenses</a> to use cc-by-sa-4.0 instead of 3.0? --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:MGA73" title="Naudotojas:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:MGA73" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:MGA73">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-MGA73-20241006173500-Homo_ergaster-20241006171800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:35, 6 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20241006173500-Homo_ergaster-20241006171800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20241006173500-Homo_ergaster-20241006171800"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojas:Homo ergaster"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20241006174900-MGA73-20241006173500"></span>Homo ergaster</a> I changed the templates and now we just have to wait for system to work on all the files that use <a href="/wiki/%C5%A0ablonas:GFDL" title="Šablonas:GFDL">Template:GFDL</a> and <a href="/wiki/%C5%A0ablonas:GFDL-self" title="Šablonas:GFDL-self">Template:GFDL-self</a> and add them to <a href="/wiki/Kategorija:Wikipedia_license_migration_candidates" title="Kategorija:Wikipedia license migration candidates">Kategorija:Wikipedia license migration candidates</a>. --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:MGA73" title="Naudotojas:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:MGA73" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:MGA73">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-MGA73-20241006174900-MGA73-20241006173500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:49, 6 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20241006174900-MGA73-20241006173500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20241006174900-MGA73-20241006173500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20241006181800-MGA73-20241006174900"></span>Right now there are 1,953 files and I expected 2,003 files minus the 9 that have both a GFDL and a GFDL-self for some reason (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://petscan.wmcloud.org/?psid=29450949">https://petscan.wmcloud.org/?psid=29450949</a>). Perhaps run a touch.py at -ref:Template:GFDL and GFDL-self? --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:MGA73" title="Naudotojas:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:MGA73" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:MGA73">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-MGA73-20241006181800-MGA73-20241006174900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:18, 6 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20241006181800-MGA73-20241006174900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20241006181800-MGA73-20241006174900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Homo_ergaster-20241006185600-MGA73-20241006181800"></span>Done. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojas:Homo ergaster">Homo ergaster</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Homo ergaster">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Homo_ergaster-20241006185600-MGA73-20241006181800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:56, 6 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Homo_ergaster-20241006185600-MGA73-20241006181800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Homo_ergaster-20241006185600-MGA73-20241006181800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20241006202400-Homo_ergaster-20241006185600"></span>Thank you <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojas:Homo ergaster">Homo ergaster</a>. I know why... The 42 files on <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://petscan.wmcloud.org/?psid=29454531">https://petscan.wmcloud.org/?psid=29454531</a> are some that uses "|migration=relicense". They can probably just be deleted. I will make some lists later and try to sort the files in different categories (redundant, eligible, not-eligible). And when we agree which files should be fixed how it should not take long for your bot to do it. --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:MGA73" title="Naudotojas:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:MGA73" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:MGA73">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-MGA73-20241006202400-Homo_ergaster-20241006185600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:24, 6 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20241006202400-Homo_ergaster-20241006185600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20241006202400-Homo_ergaster-20241006185600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20241007173000-Šablonas:GFDL-self"></span>Hello <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojas:Homo ergaster">Homo ergaster</a>! I made <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:MGA73/GFDL" title="Naudotojas:MGA73/GFDL">Naudotojas:MGA73/GFDL</a> and hope it is understandable. </p><p>The short version is this: Files uploaded before November 2008 are almost 100% eligible. Files uploaded after but before August 2009 are eligible unless they are copied from a non-wiki website. Files uploaded After 2009 are not eligible unless they are copied from other wikis and the original is eligible. </p><p>I did not notice untill I started making the list that you had allready changed license on many files. That complicate it a bit because usually when a file is licensed GFDL and Cc-by-sa-3.0 we can just mark them with "|migration=redundant". But if you added the cc-template then we can't do that. </p><p>If the uploader agreed to the license change then it is okay to add the cc-template and in that case your bot should just add the "|migration=redundant". I checked and some of the top uploaders are still active: Arz, Hugo.arg, RaDonas and Sovijus76. </p><p>When I run the script for files uploaded Nov 2008 to Aug 2009 I usually exclude www and http because that is usually an indication that the file is from the internet. And when I run script for files uploaded after Aug 2009 I usually exclude wiki and [[: because it is an indication that it is copied from another wiki. </p><p>If there are some left after you have fixed the files we can chek them manually. And if you have questions just shoot! --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:MGA73" title="Naudotojas:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:MGA73" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:MGA73">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-MGA73-20241007173000-Šablonas:GFDL-self" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:30, 7 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20241007173000-Šablonas:GFDL-self"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20241007173000-Šablonas:GFDL-self"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20241007180800-Šablonas:GFDL-self"></span>What a bureaucratic bother - I can't understand, why it's needed - change all the pictures to CC license, and it's done. These pictures have been uploaded by our local users, made by them, and no one will come and would say "oh, it's copyvio to use my photo, made 15 years ago, because that time I didn't noticed that Wikipedia moved from GFDL to CC. User MGA73, please stop then writing this idiotism on my page and find other places to bother with useless things. As <a href="/wiki/Andrea_Trinchieri" title="Andrea Trinchieri">Andrea Trinchieri</a> said recently to one such person, "you are a poor person living a poor life". To search for 10-15 years absent users, if they made incorrect license although they thought it's correct! Who's rights they violate - their own's? <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20241007180800-Šablonas:GFDL-self" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:08, 7 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20241007180800-Šablonas:GFDL-self"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20241007180800-Šablonas:GFDL-self"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20241007190200-Hugo.arg-20241007180800"></span>It would be much easier. But thats not how it works. It would make Wikipedia and Commons less trustworthy if we just change the licenses. And sometimes people sue because of copyright. If you are interessted you can look at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_troll" class="extiw" title="en:Copyright troll">en:Copyright troll</a>.</dd> <dd>I will continue discussion on <a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Homo ergaster">Naudotojo aptarimas:Homo ergaster</a>. --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:MGA73" title="Naudotojas:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:MGA73" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:MGA73">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-MGA73-20241007190200-Hugo.arg-20241007180800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:02, 7 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20241007190200-Hugo.arg-20241007180800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20241007190200-Hugo.arg-20241007180800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ant_nuospaudos_užmynėm?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ant_nuospaudos_užmynėm?-20240603081400"><span id="Ant_nuospaudos_u.C5.BEmyn.C4.97m.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ant_nuospaudos_užmynėm?-20240603081400"></span>Ant nuospaudos užmynėm?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ant_nuospaudos_užmynėm?-20240603081400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section's source code: Ant nuospaudos užmynėm?"><span>redaguoti vikitekstą</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cchww1384-20240603081400-Ant_nuospaudos_užmynėm?"></span>Tamstai ant nuospaudos užmynėm, kad tokią informaciją reik trint apie Pipedijoje redaguojančius autorius? <a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojas:Cchww1384&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Naudotojas:Cchww1384 (puslapis neegzistuoja)">Cchww1384</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Cchww1384&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Cchww1384 (puslapis neegzistuoja)">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Cchww1384-20240603081400-Ant_nuospaudos_užmynėm?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:14, 3 birželio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cchww1384-20240603081400-Ant_nuospaudos_užmynėm?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cchww1384-20240603081400-Ant_nuospaudos_užmynėm?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20240603095400-Cchww1384-20240603081400"></span>Straipsniai turi būti paremti nepriklausomais šaltiniais, o ne pačių išsitraukta informacija. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20240603095400-Cchww1384-20240603081400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:54, 3 birželio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20240603095400-Cchww1384-20240603081400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20240603095400-Cchww1384-20240603081400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20240603100000-Hugo.arg-20240603095400"></span>Kas čia per vaisinės-erotinės fantazijos? p.s Autorius, skamba išdidžiai. :) Man tai didžioji dalis rašliavos yra grafomanija ir tiek. -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20240603100000-Hugo.arg-20240603095400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:00, 3 birželio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20240603100000-Hugo.arg-20240603095400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20240603100000-Hugo.arg-20240603095400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cchww1384-20240603132900-Makenzis-20240603100000"></span>Kur grafomanija? <a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojas:Cchww1384&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Naudotojas:Cchww1384 (puslapis neegzistuoja)">Cchww1384</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Cchww1384&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Cchww1384 (puslapis neegzistuoja)">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Cchww1384-20240603132900-Makenzis-20240603100000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 3 birželio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cchww1384-20240603132900-Makenzis-20240603100000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cchww1384-20240603132900-Makenzis-20240603100000"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cchww1384-20240603135500-Hugo.arg-20240603095400"></span>Tai tuomet šaltinius į Pipedijos statistiką reikia ištrinti ar ne? <a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojas:Cchww1384&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Naudotojas:Cchww1384 (puslapis neegzistuoja)">Cchww1384</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Cchww1384&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Cchww1384 (puslapis neegzistuoja)">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Cchww1384-20240603135500-Hugo.arg-20240603095400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:55, 3 birželio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cchww1384-20240603135500-Hugo.arg-20240603095400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cchww1384-20240603135500-Hugo.arg-20240603095400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20240603142300-Ant_nuospaudos_užmynėm?"></span>Na, į "savus" šaltinius nėra draudžiama pateikti nuorodų, bet šiuo atveju, tai mažai reikšminga statistika (net ir iš straipsnio <a href="/wiki/Lietuvi%C5%A1koji_Vikipedija" title="Lietuviškoji Vikipedija">Lietuviškoji Vikipedija</a> pašalinti anksčiau ten buvę aktyviausių naudotojų sąrašai), o apie Vikipedijos naudotojus Pipedijoje - net ir neįrodoma informacija (galiu užsiregistruoti kokio kito Vikipedijos naudotojo vardu, ir niekas neįrodys). <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20240603142300-Ant_nuospaudos_užmynėm?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:23, 3 birželio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20240603142300-Ant_nuospaudos_užmynėm?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20240603142300-Ant_nuospaudos_užmynėm?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Pagalbos_prašymas_–_kvietimas_dalyvauti_tyrime" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pagalbos_prašymas_–_kvietimas_dalyvauti_tyrime-20240702111800"><span id="Pagalbos_pra.C5.A1ymas_.E2.80.93_kvietimas_dalyvauti_tyrime"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pagalbos_prašymas_–_kvietimas_dalyvauti_tyrime-20240702111800"></span>Pagalbos prašymas – kvietimas dalyvauti tyrime<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pagalbos_prašymas_–_kvietimas_dalyvauti_tyrime-20240702111800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section's source code: Pagalbos prašymas – kvietimas dalyvauti tyrime"><span>redaguoti vikitekstą</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doktorantė-20240702111800-Pagalbos_prašymas_–_kvietimas_dalyvauti_tyrime"></span>Sveiki, </p><p>esu sociologijos doktorantė (VU) Rima Žilinskaitė, norėčiau pakviesti jus sudalyvauti mano disertacijos tyrime – susitikti pokalbio ir pasidalinti savo patirtimi rašant Vikipediją ir dalyvaujant jos kūrime. Savo disertacijoje domiuosi interneto vartotojų dalyvavimu kuriant ir skleidžiant žinojimą, įskaitant ir internetines enciklopedijas. Pokalbis truktų nuo pusvalandžio iki pusantros valandos. Susitiktume jums priimtinu laiku ir jums patogioje vietoje Vilniuje (arba nuotoliu, jei esate kitame mieste, ar dėl kitų aplinkybių neįmanoma gyvai). Pasikviesti tyrimo dalyvį pokalbiui yra turbūt viena sunkesnių užduočių socialinių mokslų tyrimuose, juo labiau – vasarą, todėl būčiau tikrai labai dėkinga už pagalbą. Suprantu, kad Vikipedijos bendruomenei anonimiškumas yra itin svarbi vertybė, todėl palieku savo el. paštą, kuriuo prašyčiau atsakyti, jei sutiktumėte sudalyvauti tyrime: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="mailto:rimazilinskaite@gmail.com">rimazilinskaite@gmail.com</a> (o jei nurodysite savo kontaktą, irgi būsiu labai dėkinga ir pati susisieksiu su jumis). Taip pat mielai atsakysiu į klausimus, jei tokių iškyla. Pokalbių turinys disertacijos analizėje būtų anonimizuotas ir nuasmenintas, niekaip nesiejant pasisakymų su konkrečiais žmonėmis. </p><p>Taip pat labai prašyčiau pasidalinti šia žinute ir su kitais Vikipedijos bendruomenės nariais (tiek aktyviais, tiek naujais) jums prieinamais kanalais. Pati esu naujokė šioje aplinkoje, tad esu tikra, kad jūs žinote tų kanalų daugiau, nei man kol kas pavyko suvokti. </p><p>Ir labai laukčiau atsakymo, </p><p>Rima <a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojas:Doktorant%C4%97&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Naudotojas:Doktorantė (puslapis neegzistuoja)">Doktorantė</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Doktorant%C4%97" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Doktorantė">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Doktorantė-20240702111800-Pagalbos_prašymas_–_kvietimas_dalyvauti_tyrime" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:18, 2 liepos 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doktorantė-20240702111800-Pagalbos_prašymas_–_kvietimas_dalyvauti_tyrime"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doktorantė-20240702111800-Pagalbos_prašymas_–_kvietimas_dalyvauti_tyrime"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Dėl_išnašos_infolentelėje" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dėl_išnašos_infolentelėje-20240710182700"><span id="D.C4.97l_i.C5.A1na.C5.A1os_infolentel.C4.97je"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Dėl_išnašos_infolentelėje-20240710182700"></span>Dėl išnašos infolentelėje<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Dėl_išnašos_infolentelėje-20240710182700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section's source code: Dėl išnašos infolentelėje"><span>redaguoti vikitekstą</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamvs-20240710182700-Dėl_išnašos_infolentelėje"></span>Sveiki. Norėčiau straipsnyje <i><a href="/wiki/Vilnius" title="Vilnius">Vilnius</a></i> vieną infolentelės eilutę pakoreguoti štai taip: </p><p><code>|gyventoju = 631057<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiOTE2Mzk5MjEtZGU5Yi00MTU1LWFkOGEtYmQ2M2ZiM2RmYzQxIiwidCI6ImFmZjM2MzMxLTNlNWUtNDdlOC1hZjkzLTE4NTFkNmQxZmUzYiIsImMiOjh9|title=Vilniaus gyventojai|date=2024 m. birželio 3 d.|access-date=2024-07-10|website=vilnius.lt|publisher=Vilniaus miesto savivaldybė}}</ref></code> </p><p>Nesuprantu, kodėl tai ją sugadina. Gal padėtumėte? –<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Adamvs" title="Naudotojas:Adamvs">Adamvs</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Adamvs" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Adamvs">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Adamvs-20240710182700-Dėl_išnašos_infolentelėje" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:27, 10 liepos 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamvs-20240710182700-Dėl_išnašos_infolentelėje"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamvs-20240710182700-Dėl_išnašos_infolentelėje"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20240710182800-Adamvs-20240710182700"></span>Nuorodą dėkite ne prie skaičiaus (nes jis panaudojamas gyv. tankumui skaičiuoti ir kitoms matematinėms procedūroms), o prie metų. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20240710182800-Adamvs-20240710182700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:28, 10 liepos 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20240710182800-Adamvs-20240710182700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20240710182800-Adamvs-20240710182700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamvs-20240710202600-Hugo.arg-20240710182800"></span>Ačiū, nepagalvojau. –<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Adamvs" title="Naudotojas:Adamvs">Adamvs</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Adamvs" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Adamvs">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Adamvs-20240710202600-Hugo.arg-20240710182800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:26, 10 liepos 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamvs-20240710202600-Hugo.arg-20240710182800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamvs-20240710202600-Hugo.arg-20240710182800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Komonz" data-mw-thread-id="h-Komonz-20240715182700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Komonz-20240715182700"></span>Komonz<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Komonz-20240715182700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section's source code: Komonz"><span>redaguoti vikitekstą</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vilensija-20240715182700-Komonz"></span>Stebiuosi, kad <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Eirimas_Veli%C4%8Dka.jpg" class="extiw" title="c:File:Eirimas Velička.jpg">c:File:Eirimas Velička.jpg</a> puikiai gyvuoja, jokių delyšn notifikeišn, ar aš kažko nepagaunu? --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Vilensija" title="Naudotojas:Vilensija">Vilensija</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Vilensija" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Vilensija">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Vilensija-20240715182700-Komonz" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:27, 15 liepos 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vilensija-20240715182700-Komonz"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vilensija-20240715182700-Komonz"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20240715184700-Vilensija-20240715182700"></span>Na, ne viską sužiūri. Čia keblus atvejis - šiuo (ir kai kuriais kitais atvejais) aprašomas asmuo atsiuntė nuotrauką įkėlimui. Kaip savo nurodyti neišeina, o norint viską pagal taisykles daryti tai ten reikia pro biurokratines džiungles brautis, visokius patvirtinimus siuntinėti ir panašiai. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20240715184700-Vilensija-20240715182700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:47, 15 liepos 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20240715184700-Vilensija-20240715182700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20240715184700-Vilensija-20240715182700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vilensija-20240715191300-Hugo.arg-20240715184700"></span>Taip ir galvojau. Aš karjeros pradžioje taip bandžiau kelti asmenų foto, paskui jas permečiau į lt viki. Per e-meilą su jais susirašiau, kol nepasiunčiau. Bet tai neišėjo į gerą, nes rado trintino, kas pas kitus sėkmingai gyvavo. Dabar lygtai nebekimba, ypač jei nedėti konkrečių kategorijų autoriniams paminklams ir pan.--<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Vilensija" title="Naudotojas:Vilensija">Vilensija</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Vilensija" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Vilensija">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Vilensija-20240715191300-Hugo.arg-20240715184700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:13, 15 liepos 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vilensija-20240715191300-Hugo.arg-20240715184700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vilensija-20240715191300-Hugo.arg-20240715184700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Research_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub" data-mw-thread-id="h-Research_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub-20240726130700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Research_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub-20240726130700"></span>Research about the tools on Wikimedia projects by the CEE Hub<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Research_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub-20240726130700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section's source code: Research about the tools on Wikimedia projects by the CEE Hub"><span>redaguoti vikitekstą</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240726130700-Research_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub"></span>Hi everyone, </p><p>We would like to invite you to submit your responses to the survey dedicated to the tools that are used currently across the Wikimedia projects and the tools that you want to have. </p><p>This survey was made by the working group of the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Hub" class="extiw" title="m:Wikimedia CEE Hub">CEE Hub</a>, and your responses will be reviewed afterwards, as we want to continue supporting the communities. That support can be documentation for certain most used tools by other communities across the region per specific topics, finding solutions for new tools to be created in the future, creating most needed tools in the region (so called "regional wishlist list"), and many other options. </p><p><i>Deadline to fill in the survey is <b>20th of August, 2024</b>.</i> </p><p>Submit your answers <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeIwzCDKs6jXPG7EpZe-JH2Mm1odU0_MAv1bO-z-nLOq9dlug/viewform?usp=sf_link"><b>here</b></a> </p><p>Thank you in advance for your time that you will dedicate in filling in this survey --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="Naudotojas:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:MediaWiki_message_delivery&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:MediaWiki message delivery (puslapis neegzistuoja)">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240726130700-Research_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:07, 26 liepos 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240726130700-Research_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240726130700-Research_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Straipsnis_apie_fasilitatorių" data-mw-thread-id="h-Straipsnis_apie_fasilitatorių-20240805101300"><span id="Straipsnis_apie_fasilitatori.C5.B3"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Straipsnis_apie_fasilitatorių-20240805101300"></span>Straipsnis apie fasilitatorių<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Straipsnis_apie_fasilitatorių-20240805101300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section's source code: Straipsnis apie fasilitatorių"><span>redaguoti vikitekstą</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Poulius-20240805101300-Straipsnis_apie_fasilitatorių"></span>Straipsnį apie fasilitatorių rašiau remdamasis anglišką versiją. Tai puslapis yra gana panašus į anglišką versiją. Nieko reklamuot puslapyje nenoriu. Nuoroda: <a href="/w/index.php?title=Fasilitatorius&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Fasilitatorius (puslapis neegzistuoja)">Fasilitatorius</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojas:Poulius&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Naudotojas:Poulius (puslapis neegzistuoja)">Poulius</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Poulius" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Poulius">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Poulius-20240805101300-Straipsnis_apie_fasilitatorių" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:13, 5 rugpjūčio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Poulius-20240805101300-Straipsnis_apie_fasilitatorių"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Poulius-20240805101300-Straipsnis_apie_fasilitatorių"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20240805103300-Poulius-20240805101300"></span>Na, nuoroda į tūlo fasilitatoriaus Tomo Dapšausko puslapį tikrai suprastina kaip reklama. Reikia remtis nepriklausomais, o ne reklaminiais šaltiniais. Tos apibrėžimų citatos ir angliškam puslapiui garbės nedaro - reikėtų sukonspektuoti rišliu tekstu, kad būtų konkrečiai aišku, kas tai per asmuo ir kokiose srityse jis veikia. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20240805103300-Poulius-20240805101300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:33, 5 rugpjūčio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20240805103300-Poulius-20240805101300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20240805103300-Poulius-20240805101300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Poulius-20240806184000-Hugo.arg-20240805103300"></span>Man tas straipsnis apie fasilitatorių yra geriausias kokį radau lietuviškame internete. Geriau tikrai nėra. Dėl apibrėžimų tai man jie atrodo geri. Na bet Tau geriau žinot <a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojas:Poulius&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Naudotojas:Poulius (puslapis neegzistuoja)">Poulius</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Poulius" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Poulius">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Poulius-20240806184000-Hugo.arg-20240805103300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:40, 6 rugpjūčio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Poulius-20240806184000-Hugo.arg-20240805103300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Poulius-20240806184000-Hugo.arg-20240805103300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Patobulinimai_ir_klaidų_taisymas_apie_Abdelmadjidą_Tebūną" data-mw-thread-id="h-Patobulinimai_ir_klaidų_taisymas_apie_Abdelmadjidą_Tebūną-20240828200800"><span id="Patobulinimai_ir_klaid.C5.B3_taisymas_apie_Abdelmadjid.C4.85_Teb.C5.ABn.C4.85"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Patobulinimai_ir_klaidų_taisymas_apie_Abdelmadjidą_Tebūną-20240828200800"></span>Patobulinimai ir klaidų taisymas apie Abdelmadjidą Tebūną<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Patobulinimai_ir_klaidų_taisymas_apie_Abdelmadjidą_Tebūną-20240828200800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section's source code: Patobulinimai ir klaidų taisymas apie Abdelmadjidą Tebūną"><span>redaguoti vikitekstą</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nassimohr-20240828200800-Patobulinimai_ir_klaidų_taisymas_apie_Abdelmadjidą_Tebūną"></span>Sveiki, Aš norėčiau paprašyti jūsų pagalbos tobulinant ir taisant Alžyro prezidento Abdelmadjido Tebūno puslapį. Nors aš atlikau tam tikrus patobulinimus, jei pastebėsite, kad jų nepakanka, prašome atlikti papildomus pakeitimus. Atsiprašau už galimas klaidas – mano lietuvių kalba dar nėra tobula, todėl gali būti klaidų. Ačiū už jūsų pagalbą! Geriausi linkėjimai, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojas:Nassimohr&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Naudotojas:Nassimohr (puslapis neegzistuoja)">Nassimohr</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Nassimohr&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Nassimohr (puslapis neegzistuoja)">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Nassimohr-20240828200800-Patobulinimai_ir_klaidų_taisymas_apie_Abdelmadjidą_Tebūną" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:08, 28 rugpjūčio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nassimohr-20240828200800-Patobulinimai_ir_klaidų_taisymas_apie_Abdelmadjidą_Tebūną"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nassimohr-20240828200800-Patobulinimai_ir_klaidų_taisymas_apie_Abdelmadjidą_Tebūną"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20240829070000-Nassimohr-20240828200800"></span>Sveiki. Aha, aha - netobula. Verčiate automatiniu vertimu, ir tiek žinių. Pats nelabai turiu ūpo kvaršinti galvą su Alžyro politikais. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20240829070000-Nassimohr-20240828200800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:00, 29 rugpjūčio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20240829070000-Nassimohr-20240828200800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20240829070000-Nassimohr-20240828200800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nassimohr-20240829091800-Hugo.arg-20240829070000"></span>Labai stebina, kaip jūs tvarkotės su šiuo klausimu. Jūsų kalba yra Vikipedijoje ir ją reikia aktyvinti bei rašyti daugiau straipsnių, kad ji taptų viena iš pasaulinio lygio kalbų. Bet atrodo, kad tingumas neleidžia jums to pasiekti, o mes turime rašyti straipsnius jūsų kalba. Ir vis dėlto reikalaujate, kad viskas būtų be klaidų! Beje, jūsų sprendimas ištrinti mano straipsnį be jokio išankstinio įspėjimo yra nepagarba mūsų pastangoms. Su tokiu požiūriu, daugiau neberašysiu lietuviškai. <a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojas:Nassimohr&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Naudotojas:Nassimohr (puslapis neegzistuoja)">Nassimohr</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Nassimohr&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Nassimohr (puslapis neegzistuoja)">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Nassimohr-20240829091800-Hugo.arg-20240829070000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:18, 29 rugpjūčio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nassimohr-20240829091800-Hugo.arg-20240829070000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nassimohr-20240829091800-Hugo.arg-20240829070000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sakartvelas" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sakartvelas-20240906075300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sakartvelas-20240906075300"></span><a href="/wiki/Sakartvelas" class="mw-redirect" title="Sakartvelas">Sakartvelas</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sakartvelas-20240906075300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section's source code: Sakartvelas"><span>redaguoti vikitekstą</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20240906075300-Sakartvelas"></span>Hugi`to, kad nebėra Gruzijos. Oficialiai paskelbtas re-brendingas. -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20240906075300-Sakartvelas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:53, 6 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20240906075300-Sakartvelas"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20240906075300-Sakartvelas"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20240906094500-Makenzis-20240906075300"></span>Aka landzberginis projektas "padarykim kažkokią nesąmonę, kur niekas taip nesako, bet kad paerzinti rŪzZYjĄĄĄ". <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20240906094500-Makenzis-20240906075300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:45, 6 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20240906094500-Makenzis-20240906075300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20240906094500-Makenzis-20240906075300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20240906095300-Hugo.arg-20240906094500"></span>O prie ko čia sausbergiai ir kiti dalykai? Jeigu kažkas įsitrigo sovietų gadynėje, prie smetonos, ar prie sausbergių, tai jų problemos. Čia patys kartvelai atsisako vadintis gruzais, gruzinais ir pan. Turėjau malonumą pasibendrauti su kaukaziečiais, tai man viską išaiškino, patys išklausinėjo, kaip vadinate. Tad visas nesąmones aka hansas, gabriukas ar dar kažkas susvaigo, čia ne į temą. Truputuką reikia domėtis ir tais dalykais, kurie vyksta už gimtosios pelkės ribų. Egzotika, sutinku, ne visiems, pvz., aš pats čoriso nevirškinu, ale tenka tada virti sriubą su čiorisu, o ne ėsti jį gryną. -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20240906095300-Hugo.arg-20240906094500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:53, 6 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20240906095300-Hugo.arg-20240906094500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20240906095300-Hugo.arg-20240906094500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20240906101900-Makenzis-20240906075300"></span>Čia nuo kiekvieno požiūrio asmeniškai priklauso - va, Kauno autobusų stoty labai skanūs chačiapūriai, "Senoji Gruzija" vadinasi. Lenkai gal irgi polskiais mieliau vadintųsi ar indai - bharatijais, bet jei čia pagal kiekvieno geopolitinius šokius šoksi, greit visai nesusigaudysi. Juokingiausia, kai Čečėnijos aikštę pavadino, o paskui turėjo pervadinti, kai geopoltiniai vėjai iš kitos pusės pasisuko. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20240906101900-Makenzis-20240906075300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:19, 6 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20240906101900-Makenzis-20240906075300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20240906101900-Makenzis-20240906075300"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CD-20240906101200-Sakartvelas"></span>VLKK aiškiai teigia, kad abu pavadinimai taisyklingi (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.vlkk.lt/konsultacijos/4182-gruzija">https://www.vlkk.lt/konsultacijos/4182-gruzija</a>). <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:CD" title="Naudotojas:CD">CD</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:CD" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:CD">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-CD-20240906101200-Sakartvelas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:12, 6 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CD-20240906101200-Sakartvelas"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CD-20240906101200-Sakartvelas"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20240906102500-CD-20240906101200"></span>Man kažkaip neįdomu, ten Ičkerija, Čečnia... kokio gardumo lavašas. Įdomumas tame, kad Georgia yra USA state`as. Ir dedi flag aka GEO, Georgia ir meta ten amerikonišką vėliavą. Pas švedus wiki kartvelų vėliava vis dar ruda, iš Zviado laikų. Neatsinaujina jie niekaip. Jeigu kažkas nori gyventi pagal šašlykinių kodeksą, tai man kažkaip nusispjauti, kol neprasideda debaitai. -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20240906102500-CD-20240906101200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:25, 6 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20240906102500-CD-20240906101200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20240906102500-CD-20240906101200"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Aleksandras_Makedonietis" title="Aleksandras Makedonietis"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20240907081900-Makenzis-20240906102500"></span>Aleksandras Makedonietis</a> dar senovėje su <a href="/wiki/Persijos_imperija" class="mw-redirect" title="Persijos imperija">Persijos imperija</a> kariavo. Būdavo persų šachai, padišachai. Ir tik, bac, radosi kažkoks ten <a href="/wiki/Iranas" title="Iranas">IRANAS</a>. Išliko pavadinimuose persiški kilimai, katinai, o daržovių skyriuje persikai... Jak tak? Kai, neįsigilinęs, tai niekaip nesuprantu to virsmo... vlv/flagicon aka Sakartvelas, Sakartvelo jau reikėtų. Pribrendęs reikalas. // p.s. LFF svetainė oficiali, o štai iš lietuviškos sudėties net dvi pavardės sufeilintos.(<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.lff.lt/tautu-lygos-turnyro-starte-patirtas-pralaimejimas/#">LFF</a>), net taip būna. :) -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20240907081900-Makenzis-20240906102500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:19, 7 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20240907081900-Makenzis-20240906102500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20240907081900-Makenzis-20240906102500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Kris_Boyd" data-mw-thread-id="h-Kris_Boyd-20240909081600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Kris_Boyd-20240909081600"></span><a href="/wiki/Kris_Boyd" title="Kris Boyd">Kris Boyd</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Kris_Boyd-20240909081600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section's source code: Kris Boyd"><span>redaguoti vikitekstą</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20240909081600-Kris_Boyd"></span>Ar nesiruoši jo „karjeros“ gaivinti? -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20240909081600-Kris_Boyd" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:16, 9 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20240909081600-Kris_Boyd"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20240909081600-Kris_Boyd"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20240909092100-Makenzis-20240909081600"></span>irgi tavo keleivis <a href="/wiki/Garry_O%27Connor" title="Garry O'Connor">Garry O'Connor</a>... -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20240909092100-Makenzis-20240909081600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:21, 9 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20240909092100-Makenzis-20240909081600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20240909092100-Makenzis-20240909081600"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20240909101500-Kris_Boyd"></span>Taigi baigę karjerą, viskas surašyta. Ko ten dar trūksta? <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20240909101500-Kris_Boyd" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 9 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20240909101500-Kris_Boyd"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20240909101500-Kris_Boyd"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20240909102000-Hugo.arg-20240909101500"></span>Įdomi jų karjera buvo. Dviem sakiniais aprašei ir užbaigei... Esi matęs kažkieno kito rašyta straipsnį, kur sugeba parašyti daugiau nei du sakinius? Aš tavo rašinėliuose nematau nieko. Nei normalios karjeros, nei rinktinėse pasirodymų. Kada rinktinėje pirmą kartą sužaidė, kada pirmą įvartį pelnė, kada paskelbė apie karjeros pabaigą? Realiai, gal imti dėti tokiuose perliukuose "trinti, kad pačiam nesikankinti ir jų didenybių neblaškyti tokiomis smulkmenomis. -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20240909102000-Hugo.arg-20240909101500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:20, 9 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20240909102000-Hugo.arg-20240909101500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20240909102000-Hugo.arg-20240909101500"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20240909102700-Kris_Boyd"></span>Rado kas pasakoti. Minimalius reikalavimus tokie straipsniai atitinka. Paties ten irgi tas turinys dažniausiai dirbtinai išpūstas su dešimtimis skyrelių (iš kurių pusė tušti) ir išsamiu kokių nors vienų atsitiktinių rungtynių aprašymu (pvz., grajoko debiuto rungtynių, kuriose žaidė 10 min., peripetijų aprašymu). Taip kad kritikos nepriimu. Straipsniai nėra išsamūs, bet tikrai geriau nei CD vieno sakinio, o rašyti basnių apie debiutinių varžybų scenarijus irgi nematau prasmės. Jau nepradėsiu gal pasakoti apie tamstos miestų straipsnius, kur neskiriamas miestas nuo savivaldybės, prirašyta "almondo" medžių, ir prikrauta krūva nuotraukų be/ar su neverstais aprašymais. Taip kad, jei norisi kabinėtis prie kokybės, pirma ir į savo darbus galima atkreipti dėmesį. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20240909102700-Kris_Boyd" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:27, 9 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20240909102700-Kris_Boyd"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20240909102700-Kris_Boyd"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20240909103600-Hugo.arg-20240909102700"></span>Atsirado. :) Jeigu tau jie atitinka, tai man jie nieko verti. Į ką ten žiūrėti? Japoškė gal 600 sukūrė, gal daugiau. Yra ten į ką žiūrėti? Trinti kaip šlamštą ir tiek... kaip ir bevardžių autorių rašinėlius apie paršelius pionierius. /// Vienos rungtynės, kartais gyvenime labai daug ką lemia: auksus, taures, garbę, šlovę, kontraktus. Pas mane gal kažkas papūsta kaip pas fyfas lūpos, bet baisu, kai nieko nėra. // Tu čia gal asmeniškumų ieškosi? /// Miestai man nelabi ir rūpi. Sakyčiau, kad nekenčiu rašyti apie tuos kaimus, miestus ir pan. Kartais ten nesuprasi, ar miestas ar kukurūzų laukas, tai nesigėdinu paklausti išmanančio. Gal aš`ai iš viso dislektikas ir nesugebu rišlaus sakinio parašyti, gal man problemos su loginiu, erdviniu mąstymu? Bet padarykime, kad struktūra bent būtų, o ne faktų krūva. Italas visus perspjovęs. Turinio daug, faktų daug, kai brazilus ir ispanus tvarkysiu, tai bus šrot, šrot. ... <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20240909103600-Hugo.arg-20240909102700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:36, 9 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20240909103600-Hugo.arg-20240909102700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20240909103600-Hugo.arg-20240909102700"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Elena_Spurgait%C4%97" title="Elena Spurgaitė"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20240909104200-Makenzis-20240909103600"></span>Elena Spurgaitė</a> apie mėnulius čia man taikei? Ar pasijutau užkalbintas? Ten, kur kuria strpaisnius skaičiukai, švedai iš karto trina lauk ir nesigilina. O čia juliaus janonio, tipo rašeivos... Trinti tokius strauipsnius be diskusijų, bet, tamstai visas sovietinis reikalas, labai gajus. Širdelė virpa dėl tokių rašinukų? -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20240909104200-Makenzis-20240909103600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:42, 9 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20240909104200-Makenzis-20240909103600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20240909104200-Makenzis-20240909103600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20240909104700-Kris_Boyd"></span>Vikipedijoje žmonės aprašomi nepriklausomai nuo nūdienos ar anūdienos ideologinių pozicijų. Minima rašytoja gana aprašyta <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://maironiomuziejus.lt/post-t-exhibitions/vaiku-rasytoja-elena-spurgaite-virtuali-paroda/">[2]</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.limis.lt/personalities/8426083">[3]</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.ibbylietuva.lt/rubinaitis/2014-nr-3-71/kas-jus-zaliapukes-autore-elenai-spurgaitei-90-metu/">[4]</a> - reikšmingumą tikrai atitinka. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20240909104700-Kris_Boyd" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:47, 9 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20240909104700-Kris_Boyd"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20240909104700-Kris_Boyd"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20240909105800-Hugo.arg-20240909104700"></span>Pradėkime nuo to, kad ją aprašinėti ėmėsi no-name... man jau to užtenka. kad apie paršelius pionierius rašė, tai čia to meto paklydimai. Nebūtina prisiminti kiekvieną grafomaną, kuris rašydavo bet ką. Aš irgi pažįstu keletą poetų, bet jie labiau tiktų kaziuko mugėje medų pardavinėti, o jų eilės lyg tarp kitko... ir niekas neverks dėl to, kad ji bus, nebus wikipedijoje. nesuprantu, kam skatinti kažką visokias babas jadzes, elenytes aprašinėti? -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20240909105800-Hugo.arg-20240909104700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:58, 9 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20240909105800-Hugo.arg-20240909104700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20240909105800-Hugo.arg-20240909104700"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Homo_ergaster-20240909105800-Hugo.arg-20240909104700"></span>Kartais ir skaičiukai gali kažką pakenčiamo sukurti, nors dažniausiai reklaminis brukalas ir autovertimai. Aišku, šiuo atveju straipsnis labai netvarkingas. Šiaip, rašė vaikams, kažko labai jau tarybinio ten lyg ir nėra, knygos perleistos nepriklausomoje Lietuvoje (<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://elvislab.lt/leidiniai/12787">[5]</a>). <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojas:Homo ergaster">Homo ergaster</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Homo ergaster">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Homo_ergaster-20240909105800-Hugo.arg-20240909104700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:58, 9 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Homo_ergaster-20240909105800-Hugo.arg-20240909104700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Homo_ergaster-20240909105800-Hugo.arg-20240909104700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20240909111000-Homo_ergaster-20240909105800"></span>LFF svetainė po rungtynių su Kipru net dvi lt. pavardes sufeilino... galvojate, kad copy+paste meistrai kažką pastebėjo? Ištaisė? nieko panašaus. Ukrainiečiai sugebėjo leninus nuvesrti, gatvės, miestus pervadinti, o bibliotekų saugyklose knygos nuo 1970 m. // LT beje tas pats. Negalima nurašyti sovietinio brukalo, net jeigu jis 1958 m. O wikipedijai šlamštas kaip tik. Man užtenka <a href="/wiki/Julius_Janonis" title="Julius Janonis">Julius Janonis</a>, kuris akis mazolindavo paminklu būdamas. <a href="/wiki/Didyb%C4%97s_manija" title="Didybės manija">Didybės manija</a> nesenai užmačiau iš gūdžiųjų 2008 m., kaip suprantu, tais laikais buvo super straipsnis. -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20240909111000-Homo_ergaster-20240909105800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:10, 9 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20240909111000-Homo_ergaster-20240909105800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20240909111000-Homo_ergaster-20240909105800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Homo_ergaster-20240909112800-Makenzis-20240909111000"></span>Na, pasižiūrėjus į <a href="/wiki/Specialus:Naujausi_puslapiai" title="Specialus:Naujausi puslapiai">Specialus:Naujausi_puslapiai</a>, baitų ir šiais laikais dažnai ne tiek ir daug, o rašo daugiausia veteranai. Kitiems enciklopedijos kūrimas nelabai įdomus ir patrauklus užsiėmimas. :) <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojas:Homo ergaster">Homo ergaster</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Homo ergaster">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Homo_ergaster-20240909112800-Makenzis-20240909111000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:28, 9 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Homo_ergaster-20240909112800-Makenzis-20240909111000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Homo_ergaster-20240909112800-Makenzis-20240909111000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Šiame_kas_negerai_buvo?_Xerox_NoteTaker_https://lt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Xerox_NoteTaker" data-mw-thread-id="h-Šiame_kas_negerai_buvo?_Xerox_NoteTaker_https://lt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti-20240911161000"><span id=".C5.A0iame_kas_negerai_buvo.3F_Xerox_NoteTaker_https:.2F.2Flt.wikipedia.org.2Fw.2Findex.php.3Ftitle.3DXerox_NoteTaker"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Šiame_kas_negerai_buvo?_Xerox_NoteTaker_https://lt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti-20240911161000"></span>Šiame kas negerai buvo? Xerox NoteTaker <a class="external free" href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Xerox_NoteTaker">https://lt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Xerox_NoteTaker</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Šiame_kas_negerai_buvo?_Xerox_NoteTaker_https://lt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti-20240911161000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section's source code: Šiame kas negerai buvo? Xerox NoteTaker https://lt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Xerox_NoteTaker"><span>redaguoti vikitekstą</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WindowsITpro-20240911161000-Šiame_kas_negerai_buvo?_Xerox_NoteTaker_https://lt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti"></span>Dėl ko šiame parašyta, kad "reikia sutvarkyti pagal vikipedijos standartus"? Ar galite paaiškinti, kas netinka? <a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojas:WindowsITpro&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Naudotojas:WindowsITpro (puslapis neegzistuoja)">WindowsITpro</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:WindowsITpro" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:WindowsITpro">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-WindowsITpro-20240911161000-Šiame_kas_negerai_buvo?_Xerox_NoteTaker_https://lt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:10, 11 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WindowsITpro-20240911161000-Šiame_kas_negerai_buvo?_Xerox_NoteTaker_https://lt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WindowsITpro-20240911161000-Šiame_kas_negerai_buvo?_Xerox_NoteTaker_https://lt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20240911161500-WindowsITpro-20240911161000"></span>Nėra kategorijos, vietomis netinkama, neaiški sakinių struktūra, antai: <i>Jie labai rėmėsi senesniais Alan Kay tyrimais, kuris prieš tai kūrė Dynabook projektą.</i> (tyrimais, kuris...), <i>Xerox NoteTaker turėjo tuo metu labai pažangias technologijas</i> (aparatas technologijų neturi - technologijos yra sisteminės žinios aparatams kurti; reikėtų perfrazuoti, pvz., <i>į Xerox NoteTaker buvo įdiegtos tuo metu labai pažangios technologijos</i>). <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20240911161500-WindowsITpro-20240911161000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:15, 11 rugsėjo 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20240911161500-WindowsITpro-20240911161000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20240911161500-WindowsITpro-20240911161000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Džibutis" data-mw-thread-id="h-Džibutis-20241006161800"><span id="D.C5.BEibutis"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Džibutis-20241006161800"></span>Džibutis<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Džibutis-20241006161800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section's source code: Džibutis"><span>redaguoti vikitekstą</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CD-20241006161800-Džibutis"></span>Labas, o ar manai, kad <a href="/wiki/Dikilis" class="mw-redirect" title="Dikilis">Dikilis</a> → <a href="/wiki/Dichilis" title="Dichilis">Dichilis</a> ir <a href="/wiki/Tad%C5%BEura" title="Tadžura">Tadžura</a> → <a href="/w/index.php?title=Tad%C5%BE%C5%ABra&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Tadžūra (puslapis neegzistuoja)">Tadžūra</a> taip pat bus nepagrįstos formos? <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:CD" title="Naudotojas:CD">CD</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:CD" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:CD">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-CD-20241006161800-Džibutis" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:18, 6 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CD-20241006161800-Džibutis"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CD-20241006161800-Džibutis"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20241006171200-CD-20241006161800"></span>Dėl Dichilio - nusižiūrėta iš rusiško pavadinimo, bet jei imant arabišką užrašymą pagrindu, tai خ iš tiesų tariama kaip <i>ch</i>. Dėl Tadžuros - čia ale kirčiuoto balsio pailginimo taisyklė, kuri atrodo labai nelogiška. Nežinau, aš čia bevielyčiau neilginti, kur tam nėra jokio pagrindo originale. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20241006171200-CD-20241006161800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:12, 6 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20241006171200-CD-20241006161800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20241006171200-CD-20241006161800"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CD-20241006174300-Džibutis"></span>O <a href="/wiki/Ali_Sabihas" class="mw-redirect" title="Ali Sabihas">Ali Sabihas</a> → <a href="/wiki/Ali_Sabichas" title="Ali Sabichas">Ali Sabichas</a>? <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:CD" title="Naudotojas:CD">CD</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:CD" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:CD">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-CD-20241006174300-Džibutis" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:43, 6 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CD-20241006174300-Džibutis"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CD-20241006174300-Džibutis"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20241006174900-CD-20241006174300"></span>Matyt, taip. Semitiška skirtis tarp ch/h senesniuose straipsniuose gali būti nesužiūrėta. Kiek paklausiau somališko tarimo, <i>x</i> = <i>ch</i>. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20241006174900-CD-20241006174300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:49, 6 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20241006174900-CD-20241006174300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20241006174900-CD-20241006174300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Results_from_the_survey_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub" data-mw-thread-id="h-Results_from_the_survey_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub-20241007121000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Results_from_the_survey_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub-20241007121000"></span>Results from the survey about the tools on Wikimedia projects by the CEE Hub<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Results_from_the_survey_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub-20241007121000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section's source code: Results from the survey about the tools on Wikimedia projects by the CEE Hub"><span>redaguoti vikitekstą</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241007121000-Results_from_the_survey_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub"></span>Hi everyone, </p><p>During August 2024, we sent you a survey about the tools, so now we would like to bring to your attention the conclusions and results from the survey, which you can explore on this <b><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Hub/Tools" class="extiw" title="m:Wikimedia CEE Hub/Tools">Meta page</a></b>. </p><p>I hope you will enjoy exploring the mentioned tools on the page, along with other conclusions from the survey. Thanks for your time, and we will continue working on this important topic. --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="Naudotojas:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:MediaWiki_message_delivery&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:MediaWiki message delivery (puslapis neegzistuoja)">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241007121000-Results_from_the_survey_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:10, 7 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241007121000-Results_from_the_survey_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241007121000-Results_from_the_survey_about_the_tools_on_Wikimedia_projects_by_the_CEE_Hub"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="truputuką_konkrečiau,_prašyčiau" data-mw-thread-id="h-truputuką_konkrečiau,_prašyčiau-20241009104400"><span id="truputuk.C4.85_konkre.C4.8Diau.2C_pra.C5.A1y.C4.8Diau"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-truputuką_konkrečiau,_prašyčiau-20241009104400"></span>truputuką konkrečiau, prašyčiau<span data-mw-comment-end="h-truputuką_konkrečiau,_prašyčiau-20241009104400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section's source code: truputuką konkrečiau, prašyčiau"><span>redaguoti vikitekstą</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20241009104400-truputuką_konkrečiau,_prašyčiau"></span>Soriukas, kai rašai "Makenzio futbolo sistemos, kuri, bent jau vizuališkai pateikta gerai (tik gal piktnaudžiaujama tuščiomis antraštėmis)" - kur tiksliai? Kad susikalbėtume. -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20241009104400-truputuką_konkrečiau,_prašyčiau" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:44, 9 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20241009104400-truputuką_konkrečiau,_prašyčiau"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20241009104400-truputuką_konkrečiau,_prašyčiau"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20241009104800-Makenzis-20241009104400"></span>Nu, dažnai būna, pvz., skiltis ==Nuorodos==, o ten ale <i>oficiali svetainė</i>, kur jokios svetainės net nėra, arba ==Žymūs žaidėjai== ir tik vėliavėlių pridėliota. Dabar tų pavyzdžių reikėtų ieškoti, bet daug tokių matęs. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20241009104800-Makenzis-20241009104400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:48, 9 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20241009104800-Makenzis-20241009104400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20241009104800-Makenzis-20241009104400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20241009110700-Hugo.arg-20241009104800"></span>Joo, būna, bet tame reikalas, kad arba nėra, arba buvo... švedai tik oficialias pripažįsta, kiti vėl prisigalvoja. Surašiau seriją dešimčiai klubų, ką randu, užpildau tokius laukelius. Gal kažkam akis mazolina. Ką siūlai? Trinti naffff?? Šiaip, aš vengiu po jas naršyti, nes kinų kazino, tajų viešnamių saitai, o ne futbolo klubai ten. // Garsesni žaidėjai... per rinktinių pertrauką ėmiausi daryti Panamos, Kosta Rikos ir kitus Lot. Amerikos klubus, sudėliojau vėliavėles, o NFT svetainė tuo laiku kaprizinosi, pats matei, žinai... paklausiau ar viekia, atrašei, kad nulūžusi. O kitur visai nauji klubai, apie žaidėjus dar nėra informacijos.. sakysime taip, kad viską nuo išpildyti kartais sudėtinga, ypač, kai klubai menkai žinomi. Va, Libijos sudėjau daugiau nei pusę ir gavau pompą, reikia atgauti jėgas. /// Pats juk kurdavai Benino, ARG, URU, PAR, BRA, MEX klubus, turėtum suprasti, kad vienu prisėdimu visko išpildyti neįmanoma, kiekvieną dieną reikia kažką daryti. Bosnių 130 klubų, kai kitose wikėse jų vos šeši. Klubai, sakysime MEX turėtų taip atrodyti <a href="/wiki/Dorados_de_Sinaloa" title="Dorados de Sinaloa">Dorados de Sinaloa</a>. Va, yra garsesni žaidėjai idealiai išpildyti, bet visi tie titulai ir istorija pjauna. O baisiausias dalykas, kad Raimucka, kokiais 2014 m. sukūrė str. apie futbolistą, realiai, be prikaištų, ir nė karto nepildė nieko, tai dabar gali įsivaizduoti, kaip atrodo tokie straipsniai. Idealus variantas, kai informacijos per akis ir turi ką pildyti. Tik laiko ir noro turėk. Be fanatizmo. Yra čia gudruolių, kad iš 9 ruungtynių 10 padaro ir jau didvyriai, o rašyti niekaip nesugeba. -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20241009110700-Hugo.arg-20241009104800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:07, 9 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20241009110700-Hugo.arg-20241009104800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20241009110700-Hugo.arg-20241009104800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20241009112700-truputuką_konkrečiau,_prašyčiau"></span>Tai dar variantas yra sudėti tuščias antraštes po  žyme - tada to tuščio "šablono" nesimatys straipsnyje, tik redagavimo tekste, o papildžius galima nuimti, kad matytųsi. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20241009112700-truputuką_konkrečiau,_prašyčiau" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:27, 9 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20241009112700-truputuką_konkrečiau,_prašyčiau"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20241009112700-truputuką_konkrečiau,_prašyčiau"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20241009120200-Hugo.arg-20241009112700"></span>Joo, irgi variantas. /// Skirtumas tame, kad stengiuosi išpildyti iki galo. Kartais per kartą nepadarau, užsimeta koks straipsnis, kartais tuo metu sezonas tik prasidėjęs, tad nelabai ką rasi. Va, dabar padoraus logotipo niekaip nerandu. /// Tamsta, visada prašom, jeigu nori kažką pridėti, kažką randi. O trintukais ir žaldariais jau sotus. -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20241009120200-Hugo.arg-20241009112700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:02, 9 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20241009120200-Hugo.arg-20241009112700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20241009120200-Hugo.arg-20241009112700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ežerų_plotai_vs._kranto_linijų_ilgiai" data-mw-thread-id="h-ežerų_plotai_vs._kranto_linijų_ilgiai-20241009120100"><span id="e.C5.BEer.C5.B3_plotai_vs._kranto_linij.C5.B3_ilgiai"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ežerų_plotai_vs._kranto_linijų_ilgiai-20241009120100"></span>ežerų plotai vs. kranto linijų ilgiai<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ežerų_plotai_vs._kranto_linijų_ilgiai-20241009120100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section's source code: ežerų plotai vs. kranto linijų ilgiai"><span>redaguoti vikitekstą</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kusurija-20241009120100-ežerų_plotai_vs._kranto_linijų_ilgiai"></span>Kaip gali būti (skaičių išraiška) objekto perimetras (apie ežerus kalbama "kranto linijos ilgis") [ilgio vienetas (m, km, mylia)] mažesnis (arba apylygis) negu to paties (skaičių išraiška) objekto plotas [ploto vienetas (m², km², kvadratinė mylia)]?? Pvz. <a href="/wiki/R%C4%97kyvos_e%C5%BEeras" title="Rėkyvos ežeras">Rėkyvos ežero</a> plotis ir ilgis neperdaug skiriasi, jei būtų tiksliai kvadratinis, <s>tai jo plotas būtų x km², o perimetras <b>4x km</b>, jei būtų siauras, kaip makaronas, tai jo tai jo plotas būtų x km², o perimetras <b>2x km (+ dukart (mažas) plotis)</b>. Todėl visur, kur skaičių išraiška „kranto linijos ilgis“ yra mažiau, negu dukart (skaičių išraiška) plotas, yra vienas arba kitas duomuo <b>neteisingas</b> (gal ir abu). Matematiką/geometriją neperkalbėsi, kad ir kaip norėtųsi. Todėl mano trynimus neatgražinkite arba pakeskite <b>teisingais</b> skaičiais!</s> --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Kusurija" title="Naudotojas:Kusurija">Kusurija</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Kusurija" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Kusurija">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Kusurija-20241009120100-ežerų_plotai_vs._kranto_linijų_ilgiai" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:01, 9 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kusurija-20241009120100-ežerų_plotai_vs._kranto_linijų_ilgiai"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kusurija-20241009120100-ežerų_plotai_vs._kranto_linijų_ilgiai"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20241009121900-Kusurija-20241009120100"></span>Kokius čia išvedžiojimus paistote? Va, pamatavau per maps.lt - gavau 13,76 km (labai tiksliai mažyčių įlinkimų nematavau) prie ploto 12,03 km². Tai skaičius visiškai realus ir iš patikimo šaltinio. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20241009121900-Kusurija-20241009120100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 9 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20241009121900-Kusurija-20241009120100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20241009121900-Kusurija-20241009120100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kusurija-20241009133400-Hugo.arg-20241009121900"></span>Joo, trumpas sujungimas, sorry. --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Kusurija" title="Naudotojas:Kusurija">Kusurija</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Kusurija" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Kusurija">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Kusurija-20241009133400-Hugo.arg-20241009121900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:34, 9 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kusurija-20241009133400-Hugo.arg-20241009121900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kusurija-20241009133400-Hugo.arg-20241009121900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Eukariotinė_ląstelė_į_Eukarijotai" data-mw-thread-id="h-Eukariotinė_ląstelė_į_Eukarijotai-20241017211200"><span id="Eukariotin.C4.97_l.C4.85stel.C4.97_.C4.AF_Eukarijotai"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Eukariotinė_ląstelė_į_Eukarijotai-20241017211200"></span>Eukariotinė ląstelė į Eukarijotai<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Eukariotinė_ląstelė_į_Eukarijotai-20241017211200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section's source code: Eukariotinė ląstelė į Eukarijotai"><span>redaguoti vikitekstą</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nyx_Aurelius-20241017211200-Eukariotinė_ląstelė_į_Eukarijotai"></span>Sveiki, norėjau paklausti ar nebūtų geriau pakeisti straipsnį apie eukarijotus iš "Eukarijotinė ląstelė" į bendrai "Eukarijotai"? Norėčiau tai padaryti, tačiau panašu, jog tai gan didelis darbas, todėl norėjau paklausti kas geriau išmano apie straipsnių redagavimą. Ką šiuo atveju reikėtų daryti su visomis nuorodomis į "Eukarijotinė ląstelė" jeigu straipsnis taptų tiesiog "Eukarijotai" ? <a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojas:Nyx_Aurelius&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Naudotojas:Nyx Aurelius (puslapis neegzistuoja)">Nyx Aurelius</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Nyx_Aurelius" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Nyx Aurelius">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Nyx_Aurelius-20241017211200-Eukariotinė_ląstelė_į_Eukarijotai" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:12, 18 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nyx_Aurelius-20241017211200-Eukariotinė_ląstelė_į_Eukarijotai"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nyx_Aurelius-20241017211200-Eukariotinė_ląstelė_į_Eukarijotai"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20241018061900-Nyx_Aurelius-20241017211200"></span>Sveiki. Šio straipsnio pervadinimui reikia administratoriaus pagalbos - uždėsime žymę, gal pervadins. Reikėtų pakeisti straipsnio įžangą, kad būtų apie eukariotus, o ne ląstelę. Dėl nuorodų nėra ko rūpintis, atsiras automatinis nukreipimas į straipsnį nauju pavadinimu. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20241018061900-Nyx_Aurelius-20241017211200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:19, 18 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20241018061900-Nyx_Aurelius-20241017211200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20241018061900-Nyx_Aurelius-20241017211200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Kaliningrado_rajonai" data-mw-thread-id="h-Kaliningrado_rajonai-20241022131700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Kaliningrado_rajonai-20241022131700"></span>Kaliningrado rajonai<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Kaliningrado_rajonai-20241022131700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section's source code: Kaliningrado rajonai"><span>redaguoti vikitekstą</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CD-20241022131700-Kaliningrado_rajonai"></span>Labas, noriu paklausti Tavo nuomonės dėl rajonų įvardijimo. Su jais visai yra vargo, nes per XXI a. ne kartą kaitalioti pavadinimai, be to, yra srities pavaldumo miestai su savo teritorijomis. Bendra tendencija, kad pastaraisiais metais viskas paversta savivaldos apygardomis (<a href="/wiki/Rus%C5%B3_kalba" title="Rusų kalba">rus.</a> <i>муниципальный округ</i>) arba miestų apygardomis (<a href="/wiki/Rus%C5%B3_kalba" title="Rusų kalba">rus.</a> <i>городской округ</i>), bet tie pokyčiai gana dažni, paskutiniai atlikti 2022 m., tad neaišku, kiek ilgai truks. Kaip juos siūlytumei įvardyti? </p> <ul><li>rajonai ir miestai,</li> <li>rajonai ir miestų rajonai,</li> <li>savivaldos apygardos ir miestų apygardos</li> <li>gal dar kaip nors?</li></ul> <p>Lietuvoje į savivaldybes nurodo ir buvusieji Lietuvos TSR rajonai, tai gal ir Kaliningrado srityje jie liktų kaip vienas darinys kito tąsa, laikantis ilgamečio rajonų ir miestų termino? Tas pats su apylinkėmis – gyvenvietėmis (<a href="/wiki/Rus%C5%B3_kalba" title="Rusų kalba">rus.</a> <i>поселение</i>) pavadintos buvusios apylinkės, gal jas ir vadinti tiesiog apylinkėmis, o tai gyvenvietei priklauso kelios gyvenvietės, tai kažkokia painiava gaunasi. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:CD" title="Naudotojas:CD">CD</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:CD" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:CD">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-CD-20241022131700-Kaliningrado_rajonai" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:17, 22 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CD-20241022131700-Kaliningrado_rajonai"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CD-20241022131700-Kaliningrado_rajonai"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20241022133500-CD-20241022131700"></span>Aha, aš irgi visur teberašau rajonus, nors dabar ten tos miestų apygardos dažnos. Iš esmės ten tas pats ir lieka, tik pavadinimas kitas. Dėl gyvenviečių = apylinkių irgi sutikčiau. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20241022133500-CD-20241022131700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:35, 22 spalio 2024 (EEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20241022133500-CD-20241022131700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20241022133500-CD-20241022131700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="apie_mandarinus" data-mw-thread-id="h-apie_mandarinus-20241120085800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-apie_mandarinus-20241120085800"></span>apie mandarinus<span data-mw-comment-end="h-apie_mandarinus-20241120085800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section's source code: apie mandarinus"><span>redaguoti vikitekstą</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20241120085800-apie_mandarinus"></span>Sveikas. Apžiūrėjau mandarinus, tai įvertinau kaip "tuchliaką". Pradedant <a href="/wiki/Kinijos_futbolo_lyga" class="mw-redirect" title="Kinijos futbolo lyga">Kinijos futbolo lyga</a> ir baigiant klubais. <bdi><a class="external text" href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kinijos_futbolo_lyga&oldid=5340285">8 kovo 2018</a></bdi> <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:SQORP" title="Naudotojas:SQORP"><bdi>SQORP</bdi></a> aktyviai kovo mėn. ūžė, tačiau jis kurdavo pagal principą innuse šablonas, o tada jau arba sakinį parašydavo iš kokio miesto ir netvarkingą infobox klijuodavo arba likdavo tik tasai šablonas. H.Ergaster nespėdavo trinti to meno. Gali palyginti su amerikonų <a href="/wiki/Nashville_SC" title="Nashville SC">Nashville SC</a> (autorius: Makenzis) ir tarkime su <a href="/wiki/Atlanta_United_FC" title="Atlanta United FC">Atlanta United FC</a> (SQORP; anno January 2018). Mėnesiu anksčiau nei mandarinus išpildė.... Indų ir kiniečių lygas ir klubus (dar amerikonų) kūrė kolega, o aš jas buvau nurašęs kaip netinkamas vartojimui. /// Kai darau Mozambiką, Zimbabvę ar Čilę, tai jau kaifą. Malonu ten pasisukinėti. Vakar perskaičiau ar galėtum, tai pasižiūrėjau ir dirbtinė koma nuo to žiūrėjimo ištiko. /// Vakar draugas skambino ir sako, kad jam viena blondinė išreiškė norą: Ferrari noriu... rūžavo. Draugas susirado flamasterį ir nupaišė jai Ferrari. Čia lenkiu į tai, kokio Superlygos puslapio tikiesi ir kaip matai išpildytą klubą. Sakysime, kad <a href="/wiki/Mo%C3%A7ambola" title="Moçambola">Moçambola</a> atrodo taip, <a href="/wiki/Associa%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Black_Bulls" title="Associação Black Bulls">Associação Black Bulls</a> šitaip. Kiniečių ir šiaip azijiečių puslapių vengiu, nes ten nukreipia į kažkokius kazino, pūrnūškes ir kitas nesąmones. Nelabai suprantu, kodėl kinų tie klubeliai iš viso buvo kuriami... Superlygą reiktų atnaujinti, bet nereikalingas pompastikas siūlyčiau naikinti kaip nereikalingas. Kaip tau atrodo, kokios turėtų būti Superlygos, klubų išpildymas? /// Beje, prašyčiau, palyginti <a href="/wiki/2024_m._Primera_Divisi%C3%B3n_(%C4%8Cil%C4%97)" title="2024 m. Primera División (Čilė)">2024 m. Primera División (Čilė)</a> ir <a href="/wiki/2024_m._A_lyga" title="2024 m. A lyga">2024 m. A lyga</a>, <a href="/wiki/2024_m._LFF_I_lyga" title="2024 m. LFF I lyga">2024 m. LFF I lyga</a> lenteles ir kaip jos dabar atrodo. -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20241120085800-apie_mandarinus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:58, 20 lapkričio 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20241120085800-apie_mandarinus"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20241120085800-apie_mandarinus"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20241120093100-Makenzis-20241120085800"></span>Na, tokių perfekcionistinių išpildymų neprašau. Tiesiog, reikėtų bent jau sužymėti užsilenkusius klubus, atnaujinti pasiekimus lygoje. Bent tiek. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20241120093100-Makenzis-20241120085800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:31, 20 lapkričio 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20241120093100-Makenzis-20241120085800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20241120093100-Makenzis-20241120085800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20241120093900-Hugo.arg-20241120093100"></span>Ten problema, kad jie kaitalioja klubų pavadinimus labai dažnai, tad reikia suprasti ir žinoti, kas ir kada keitė pavadinimus. Jeigu nepadarysi namų darbų, tada geriau iš viso nekišti nagų. Dėl Superlygos, tai trys sezonai palaidoti dėl pandemijos, ten iš esmės nėra ko atnaujinti. /// Man labiau skauda dėl LT 2023, 2024 m. A lygos, kaip atrodo po depresuotųjų invazijos. Man gėda į tai žiūrėti, o jiems dzin. dabar buriu iš pirštų, ten lįsti, ar palikti. Jeigu jau darau, tai norisi kuo geriau, o ne klijuoti durnių. -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20241120093900-Hugo.arg-20241120093100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:39, 20 lapkričio 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20241120093900-Hugo.arg-20241120093100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20241120093900-Hugo.arg-20241120093100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20241120094700-Makenzis-20241120093900"></span>O tai kaip tas "ikiinvazinis" variantas atrodytų? Nuo Čilės lentelės skirtumą matau tik, kad nesužymėti patekimai į europines taures. Tai tą, matyt, nesunkiai galima pataisyti. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20241120094700-Makenzis-20241120093900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:47, 20 lapkričio 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20241120094700-Makenzis-20241120093900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20241120094700-Makenzis-20241120093900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20241121105800-Hugo.arg-20241120094700"></span>Ten prasideda nesąmonės tuo, kad verksmingasis visą žiemą lieja širdį su licencijų teikėjais, gavėjais, paskui dalyviais, o po pirmojo turo dingsta, paskui ateina vandeninis, tasai ima visur kaišioti kauno rajono FC hegelmann, dar Vilniaus rajono transinvest, o vietoje vyšnių ant torto, atskrenda bitella su savo genialiais šablonais ir vietoje normalaus turinio lieka kažkas pusiau skuto, pusiau lupto... man ta trijulė the little santa`s jelper`s atrodo beviltiška... gal tik man. Tegul darbuojasi, tik jo įdirbio niekaip nesuprantu. p.s. lenteles darau, o kurių galų perdarė irgi nesupratau. p.s.2 iki šiol 2023 m. sezonai būsimuoju laiku išpildyti. -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20241121105800-Hugo.arg-20241120094700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:58, 21 lapkričio 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20241121105800-Hugo.arg-20241120094700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20241121105800-Hugo.arg-20241120094700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20241122082600-apie_mandarinus"></span>Vakar sukūriu <a href="/wiki/Chengdu_Rongcheng_FC" title="Chengdu Rongcheng FC">Chengdu Rongcheng</a>, tai turime vieną mandarinų klubą. jeigu turi pastabų, kritikos nori pažerti, tai visada prašom? /// darom <a href="/w/index.php?title=2025_m._Chinese_Super_League&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="2025 m. Chinese Super League (puslapis neegzistuoja)">2025 m. Chinese Super League</a>, ar per didelė prabanga? -- <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Makenzis">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Makenzis-20241122082600-apie_mandarinus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:26, 22 lapkričio 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Makenzis-20241122082600-apie_mandarinus"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Makenzis-20241122082600-apie_mandarinus"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20241122083100-Makenzis-20241122082600"></span>Tai svarbiausia, kad info atnaujinta ir suformatuota. O dėl sezonų - čia jau kaip pačiam ūpo yra. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg#c-Hugo.arg-20241122083100-Makenzis-20241122082600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:31, 22 lapkričio 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20241122083100-Makenzis-20241122082600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20241122083100-Makenzis-20241122082600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Makenzis-20241122084700-Hugo.arg-20241122083100"></span>Klubas vienas yra, o ten dar jų 20 likę. Super-Duperis kai danų futbolininkus kūrė, tai paskui sunku net rinktinių statistiką atnaujinti. Infolentelėse toks chaosas. Aš sukūriau <a href="/wiki/Ermal_Krasniqi" title="Ermal Krasniqi">Ermal Krasniqi</a>, o paskui žiūriu į <a href="/wiki/Valon_Berisha" title="Valon Berisha">Valon Berisha</a>... iš karto pompa. Tokių dovanėlių iš April 2019, bei 2018 m. kovo mėn eibė. Man norėjosi ramiai ir tingiai metus užbaigti, bet, jaučiu, kad ant pečiaus ramiai pasėdėti nepavyks. /// Dar tuos šablonus aka <a href="/wiki/Chinese_Super_League" title="Chinese Super League">Chinese Super League</a> atnaujinti... šituos du gal padaryti į vieną, kaip su afrikiečių padariau? Man du kartu nesižiūri ir bet kuriuo atveju reiktų atnaujinti. Nedrįstu tamstos prašyti ir trukdyti. Kaip nemėgstu su tais šablonais knaisiotis, dar kai švieži sezonai, kažkaip lengviau. Beviltiškai pasenę, manyčiau.</dd> <dd><table class="navbox" cellspacing="0" style=";"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:2px;"><table cellspacing="0" class="nowraplinks collapsible expanded" style="width:100%;background:transparent;color:inherit;;"><tbody><tr><th style=";" colspan="2" class="navbox-title"><div style="float:left;width:6em;text-align:left;"><div class="noprint plainlinks navbar" style="background:none; padding:0; font-weight:normal;;;background:none transparent;border:none;font-size:100%;; font-size:xx-small;"><a href="/wiki/%C5%A0ablonas:Kinijafutsez" title="Šablonas:Kinijafutsez"><span title="Žiūrėti šį šabloną" style=";;background:none transparent;border:none;font-size:100%;">Ž</span></a> <span style="font-size:80%;">•</span> <a href="/w/index.php?title=%C5%A0ablono_aptarimas:Kinijafutsez&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Šablono aptarimas:Kinijafutsez (puslapis neegzistuoja)"><span title="Aptarti šį šabloną" style=";;background:none transparent;border:none;font-size:100%;">A</span></a> <span style="font-size:80%;">•</span> <a class="external text" href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C5%A0ablonas:Kinijafutsez&action=edit"><span title="Redaguoti šį šabloną" style=";;background:none transparent;border:none;font-size:100%;;">R</span></a></div></div><span class="" style="font-size:110%;"><span class="mw-image-border" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Kinijos_LR" title="Kinijos LR"><img alt="Kinijos LR" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China.svg.png" decoding="async" width="22" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China.svg/33px-Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China.svg/44px-Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="900" data-file-height="600"/></a></span> Kinijos futbolo sezonai</span></th></tr><tr style="height:2px;"><td></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" style="width:100%;padding:0px;;;" class="navbox-list navbox-odd"><div style="padding:0em 0.25em"> <p><...> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Kinijos_futbolo_var%C5%BEybos_2014_m.&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kinijos futbolo varžybos 2014 m. (puslapis neegzistuoja)">2014</a> <span style="font-weight:bold;">·</span> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Kinijos_futbolo_var%C5%BEybos_2015_m.&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kinijos futbolo varžybos 2015 m. (puslapis neegzistuoja)">2015</a> <span style="font-weight:bold;">·</span> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Kinijos_futbolo_var%C5%BEybos_2016_m.&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kinijos futbolo varžybos 2016 m. (puslapis neegzistuoja)">2016</a> <span style="font-weight:bold;">·</span> <a href="/wiki/Kinijos_futbolo_var%C5%BEybos_2017_m." title="Kinijos futbolo varžybos 2017 m.">2017</a> <span style="font-weight:bold;">·</span> <a href="/wiki/Kinijos_futbolo_var%C5%BEybos_2018_m." title="Kinijos futbolo varžybos 2018 m.">2018</a> <span style="font-weight:bold;">·</span> <a href="/wiki/Kinijos_futbolo_var%C5%BEybos_2019_m." title="Kinijos futbolo varžybos 2019 m.">2019</a> <span style="font-weight:bold;">·</span> </p> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Kinijos_futbolo_var%C5%BEybos_2020_m.&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kinijos futbolo varžybos 2020 m. (puslapis neegzistuoja)">2020</a> <span style="font-weight:bold;">·</span></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><dl><dd><table class="navbox" cellspacing="0" style=";"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:2px;"><table cellspacing="0" class="nowraplinks collapsible collapse" style="width:100%;background:transparent;color:inherit;;"><tbody><tr><th style=";" colspan="2" class="navbox-title"><div style="float:left;width:6em;text-align:left;"><div class="noprint plainlinks navbar" style="background:none; padding:0; font-weight:normal;;;background:none transparent;border:none;font-size:100%;; font-size:xx-small;"><a href="/wiki/%C5%A0ablonas:KINfut%C4%8D" title="Šablonas:KINfutč"><span title="Žiūrėti šį šabloną" style=";;background:none transparent;border:none;font-size:100%;">Ž</span></a> <span style="font-size:80%;">•</span> <a href="/w/index.php?title=%C5%A0ablono_aptarimas:KINfut%C4%8D&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Šablono aptarimas:KINfutč (puslapis neegzistuoja)"><span title="Aptarti šį šabloną" style=";;background:none transparent;border:none;font-size:100%;">A</span></a> <span style="font-size:80%;">•</span> <a class="external text" href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C5%A0ablonas:KINfut%C4%8D&action=edit"><span title="Redaguoti šį šabloną" style=";;background:none transparent;border:none;font-size:100%;;">R</span></a></div></div><span class="" style="font-size:110%;"><a href="/wiki/Kinijos_futbolo_lyga" class="mw-redirect" title="Kinijos futbolo lyga">Kinijos futbolo lyga</a></span></th></tr><tr style="height:2px;"><td></td></tr><tr><td class="navbox-group" style=";;">2018 m. klubai</td><td style="text-align:left;border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid;width:100%;padding:0px;;;" class="navbox-list navbox-odd"><div style="padding:0em 0.25em"> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Generic_football.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/15px-Generic_football.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/23px-Generic_football.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/30px-Generic_football.png 2x" data-file-width="308" data-file-height="305"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Beijing_Renhe_FC" title="Beijing Renhe FC">Beijing Renhe</a> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Generic_football.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/15px-Generic_football.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/23px-Generic_football.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/30px-Generic_football.png 2x" data-file-width="308" data-file-height="305"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Beijing_Guoan" title="Beijing Guoan">Beijing Sinobo Guoan</a> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Generic_football.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/15px-Generic_football.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/23px-Generic_football.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/30px-Generic_football.png 2x" data-file-width="308" data-file-height="305"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Changchun_Yatai" title="Changchun Yatai">Changchun Yatai</a> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Generic_football.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/15px-Generic_football.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/23px-Generic_football.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/30px-Generic_football.png 2x" data-file-width="308" data-file-height="305"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Chongqing_Lifan_FC" title="Chongqing Lifan FC">Chongqing Dangdai Lifan</a> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Generic_football.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/15px-Generic_football.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/23px-Generic_football.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/30px-Generic_football.png 2x" data-file-width="308" data-file-height="305"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Dalian_Yifang_FC" class="mw-redirect" title="Dalian Yifang FC">Dalian Yifang</a> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Generic_football.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/15px-Generic_football.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/23px-Generic_football.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/30px-Generic_football.png 2x" data-file-width="308" data-file-height="305"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Guangzhou_Evergrande" class="mw-redirect" title="Guangzhou Evergrande">Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao</a> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Generic_football.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/15px-Generic_football.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/23px-Generic_football.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/30px-Generic_football.png 2x" data-file-width="308" data-file-height="305"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Guangzhou_R%26F" class="mw-redirect" title="Guangzhou R&F">Guangzhou R&F</a> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Generic_football.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/15px-Generic_football.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/23px-Generic_football.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/30px-Generic_football.png 2x" data-file-width="308" data-file-height="305"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Guizhou_Hengfeng_FC" title="Guizhou Hengfeng FC">Guizhou Hengfeng</a> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Generic_football.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/15px-Generic_football.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/23px-Generic_football.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/30px-Generic_football.png 2x" data-file-width="308" data-file-height="305"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Hebei_China_Fortune_FC" title="Hebei China Fortune FC">Hebei China Fortune</a> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Generic_football.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/15px-Generic_football.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/23px-Generic_football.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/30px-Generic_football.png 2x" data-file-width="308" data-file-height="305"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Henan_Jianye_FC" title="Henan Jianye FC">Henan Jianye</a> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Generic_football.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/15px-Generic_football.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/23px-Generic_football.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/30px-Generic_football.png 2x" data-file-width="308" data-file-height="305"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Jiangsu_Suning_FC" title="Jiangsu Suning FC">Jiangsu Suning</a> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Generic_football.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/15px-Generic_football.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/23px-Generic_football.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/30px-Generic_football.png 2x" data-file-width="308" data-file-height="305"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Shandong_Luneng_Taishan" title="Shandong Luneng Taishan">Shandong Luneng Taishan</a> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Generic_football.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/15px-Generic_football.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/23px-Generic_football.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/30px-Generic_football.png 2x" data-file-width="308" data-file-height="305"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Shanghai_Greenland" class="mw-redirect" title="Shanghai Greenland">Shanghai Greenland</a> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Generic_football.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/15px-Generic_football.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/23px-Generic_football.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/30px-Generic_football.png 2x" data-file-width="308" data-file-height="305"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Shanghai_SIPG" class="mw-redirect" title="Shanghai SIPG">Shanghai SIPG</a> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Generic_football.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/15px-Generic_football.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/23px-Generic_football.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/30px-Generic_football.png 2x" data-file-width="308" data-file-height="305"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Tianjin_Quanjian_FC" class="mw-redirect" title="Tianjin Quanjian FC">Tianjin Quanjian</a> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Generic_football.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/15px-Generic_football.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/23px-Generic_football.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/30px-Generic_football.png 2x" data-file-width="308" data-file-height="305"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Tianjin_Teda_FC" class="mw-redirect" title="Tianjin Teda FC">Tianjin Teda FC</a> </p> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Vaizdas:Generic_football.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/15px-Generic_football.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/23px-Generic_football.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Generic_football.png/30px-Generic_football.png 2x" data-file-width="308" data-file-height="305"/></a></span></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Makenzis" title="Naudotojas:Makenzis">Makenzis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Makenzis" 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