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class="mbox-text wpb-main" colspan="2"><table><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image wpb-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:HKUSPCOMPACT40.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="WikiProject icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/HKUSPCOMPACT40.jpg/80px-HKUSPCOMPACT40.jpg" decoding="async" width="80" height="73" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/HKUSPCOMPACT40.jpg/120px-HKUSPCOMPACT40.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/HKUSPCOMPACT40.jpg/160px-HKUSPCOMPACT40.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1418" data-file-height="1296"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This page is within the scope of <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Firearms" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Firearms">WikiProject Firearms</a></b>, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of <a href="/wiki/Firearms" class="mw-redirect" title="Firearms">firearms</a> on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the <a class="mw-selflink selflink">discussion</a> and see a list of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Firearms/to_do" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Firearms/to do">open tasks</a>.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Firearms</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Firearms</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Firearms</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">Firearms articles</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Newspaper_Cover.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Media mention" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Newspaper_Cover.svg/40px-Newspaper_Cover.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Newspaper_Cover.svg/60px-Newspaper_Cover.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Newspaper_Cover.svg/80px-Newspaper_Cover.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="120" data-file-height="120"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1214851843">.mw-parser-output .hidden-begin{box-sizing:border-box;width:100%;padding:5px;border:none;font-size:95%}.mw-parser-output .hidden-title{font-weight:bold;line-height:1.6;text-align:left}.mw-parser-output .hidden-content{text-align:left}@media all and (max-width:500px){.mw-parser-output .hidden-begin{width:auto!important;clear:none!important;float:none!important}}</style><div class="hidden-begin mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style=""><div class="hidden-title skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="">This WikiProject has been <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Press_coverage" title="Wikipedia:Press coverage">mentioned by a media organization</a>:</div><div class="hidden-content mw-collapsible-content" style=""> <ul><li><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite class="citation news cs1">Russell Brandom (March 6, 2018). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180306185345/https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/6/17086794/ar-15-wikipedia-gun-control-parkland-mass-shooting">"How gun buffs took over Wikipedia's AR-15 page"</a>. <a href="/wiki/The_Verge" title="The Verge">The Verge</a>. Archived from <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/6/17086794/ar-15-wikipedia-gun-control-parkland-mass-shooting">the original</a> on March 6, 2018<span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">March 7,</span> 2018</span>. <q>For months, the "Colt AR-15" page has been largely edited by a group of gun enthusiast editors. They joined together under the name "Wikipedia Project: Firearms," or "WP:Firearms" for short.</q></cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&amp;rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&amp;rft.genre=article&amp;rft.atitle=How+gun+buffs+took+over+Wikipedia%E2%80%99s+AR-15+page&amp;rft.date=2018-03-06&amp;rft.au=Russell+Brandom&amp;rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theverge.com%2F2018%2F3%2F6%2F17086794%2Far-15-wikipedia-gun-control-parkland-mass-shooting&amp;rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AWikipedia+talk%3AWikiProject+Firearms" class="Z3988"></span></li></ul> </div></div></td></tr></tbody></table> <p class="mw-empty-elt"> </p> <div style="clear:both"></div> <p><u> WikiProject Military history / Firearms International </u><br/> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/25px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="13" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/38px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/50px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1235" data-file-height="650"/></a></span> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ae/Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg/25px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="13" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ae/Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg/38px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ae/Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg/50px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1200" data-file-height="600"/></a></span> Discussions:  <a 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ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Daftation-20240117200800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Handguards_(forearms)-20240117200800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Daftation-20240117200800-Handguards_(forearms)&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Handguards (forearms)&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Handguards (forearms)&quot;}--><h2 id="Handguards_(forearms)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Handguards_(forearms)-20240117200800"><span id="Handguards_.28forearms.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Handguards_(forearms)-20240117200800"></span>Handguards (forearms)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Handguards_(forearms)-20240117200800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms&amp;action=edit&amp;section=1" title="Edit section: Handguards 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Daftation-20240117200800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Handguards_(forearms)-20240117200800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Daftation-20240117200800-Handguards_(forearms)&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Handguards (forearms)&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Handguards (forearms)&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daftation-20240117200800-Handguards_(forearms)"></span>Handguards seem to be addressed in a stub article <a href="/wiki/Forearm_(firearm_component)" title="Forearm (firearm component)">forearm (firearm component)</a>, but it is addressed in much more detail in <a href="/wiki/Barrel_shroud" title="Barrel shroud">barrel shroud</a>. Should the articles merge or perhaps one should be deleted? <a href="/wiki/User:Daftation" title="User:Daftation">Hi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daftation" title="User talk:Daftation">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms#c-Daftation-20240117200800-Handguards_(forearms)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:08, 17 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daftation-20240117200800-Handguards_(forearms)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240117200800","author":"Daftation","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Daftation-20240117200800-Handguards_(forearms)","replies":[],"displayName":"Hi"}}--></span><span 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id="Requested_move_at_Talk:Tel_al-Sultan_airstikes.23Requested_move_27_May_2024"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_move_at_Talk:Tel_al-Sultan_airstikes#Requested_move_27_May_2024-20240528054700"></span>Requested move at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Tel_al-Sultan_airstikes#Requested_move_27_May_2024" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Tel al-Sultan airstikes">Talk:Tel al-Sultan airstikes#Requested move 27 May 2024</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_move_at_Talk:Tel_al-Sultan_airstikes#Requested_move_27_May_2024-20240528054700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: Requested move at Talk:Tel al-Sultan airstikes#Requested move 27 May 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-RodRabelo7-20240528054700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Requested_move_at_Talk:Tel_al-Sultan_airstikes#Requested_move_27_May_2024-20240528054700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-RodRabelo7-20240528054700-Requested_move_at_Talk:Tel_al-Sultan_airstikes#Requested_move_27_May_2024&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Requested move at Talk:Tel al-Sultan airstikes#Requested move 27 May 2024&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Requested move at Talk:Tel al-Sultan airstikes#Requested move 27 May 2024&quot;}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RodRabelo7-20240528054700-Requested_move_at_Talk:Tel_al-Sultan_airstikes#Requested_move_27_May_2024"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p> There is a requested move discussion at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Tel_al-Sultan_airstikes#Requested_move_27_May_2024" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Tel al-Sultan airstikes">Talk:Tel al-Sultan airstikes#Requested move 27 May 2024</a> that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. <a href="/wiki/User:RodRabelo7" title="User:RodRabelo7">RodRabelo7</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RodRabelo7" title="User talk:RodRabelo7">talk</a>) <a 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-65.92.244.143-20240603111200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Kalashnikov_rifle-20240603111200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-65.92.244.143-20240603111200-Kalashnikov_rifle&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Kalashnikov rifle&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Kalashnikov rifle&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span id="Kalashnikov_rifle"></span><span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/wiki/Kalashnikov_rifle" title="Kalashnikov rifle"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-65.92.244.143-20240603111200-Kalashnikov_rifle"></span>Kalashnikov rifle</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/Kalashnikov_rifle" title="Special:EditPage/Kalashnikov rifle">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/Talk:Kalashnikov_rifle" title="Talk:Kalashnikov rifle">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Kalashnikov_rifle" title="Special:PageHistory/Kalashnikov rifle">history</a><span class="sysop-show"> | <a href="/wiki/Special:ProtectPage/Kalashnikov_rifle" title="Special:ProtectPage/Kalashnikov rifle">protect</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletePage/Kalashnikov_rifle" title="Special:DeletePage/Kalashnikov rifle">delete</a></span> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Kalashnikov_rifle&amp;limit=999">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kalashnikov_rifle&amp;action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;page=Kalashnikov+rifle">logs</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?pages=Kalashnikov_rifle&amp;project=en.wikipedia.org">views</a>)</span> is currently rated as low-importance. Considering that this platform (the AK) is the most popular military-power long-arm in the world, and likely the most widely produced firearm in the world, this seems odd to me. It's so popular it has been featured on the flags of countries. It's so legendarily widely known to reputedly to be never jam under any circumstances. -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.92.244.143" title="Special:Contributions/65.92.244.143">65.92.244.143</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.92.244.143" title="User talk:65.92.244.143">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms#c-65.92.244.143-20240603111200-Kalashnikov_rifle" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:12, 3 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-65.92.244.143-20240603111200-Kalashnikov_rifle"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240603111200","author":"65.92.244.143","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-65.92.244.143-20240603111200-Kalashnikov_rifle","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-65.92.244.143-20240603111200-Kalashnikov_rifle"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Cameron_Dewe-20240607110300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Crime-related_articles_involving_firearms_use-20240607110300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Cameron_Dewe-20240607110300-Crime-related_articles_involving_firearms_use&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Crime-related articles involving firearms use&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Crime-related articles involving firearms use&quot;}--><h2 id="Crime-related_articles_involving_firearms_use" data-mw-thread-id="h-Crime-related_articles_involving_firearms_use-20240607110300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Crime-related_articles_involving_firearms_use-20240607110300"></span>Crime-related articles involving firearms use<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Crime-related_articles_involving_firearms_use-20240607110300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: Crime-related articles involving firearms use"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cameron_Dewe-20240607110300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Crime-related_articles_involving_firearms_use-20240607110300","replies":["c-Cameron_Dewe-20240607110300-Crime-related_articles_involving_firearms_use"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Cameron_Dewe-20240607221000-North8000-20240607122100","timestamp":"20240607221000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Cameron_Dewe-20240607110300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Crime-related_articles_involving_firearms_use-20240607110300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Cameron_Dewe-20240607110300-Crime-related_articles_involving_firearms_use&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Crime-related articles involving firearms use&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Crime-related articles involving firearms use&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cameron_Dewe-20240607110300-Crime-related_articles_involving_firearms_use"></span>I have been asked a question about adding the WikiProject Firearms banner to crime-related articles that involve firearms use. I interpret the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Firearms#Scope" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Firearms">scope</a> of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Firearms" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Firearms">this WikiProject</a> to be about articles whose topics are about the firearms themselves, as well as related legislation, organisations, and craftspeople. While it does not explicitly say so, I interpret this cope as excluding articles about crimes where firearms are used or involved in the commission of the crime concerned. However, the section on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Firearms#Criminal_use" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Firearms">criminal use</a> appears open to mis-interpretation as it could be read as implying that crime-related articles that involve criminals using firearm are included in the project. I understand this section only addresses mentioning notable crimes that involve specific weapons to be mentioned in articles about those weapons, not a blanket inclusion of crime-related articles where firearms are used. What is actually intended here? Can the project scope have an explicit statement about whether crime-related articles that involve the use of firearms are excluded or included in this project. - <a href="/wiki/User:Cameron_Dewe" title="User:Cameron Dewe">Cameron Dewe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cameron_Dewe" title="User talk:Cameron Dewe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms#c-Cameron_Dewe-20240607110300-Crime-related_articles_involving_firearms_use" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:03, 7 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cameron_Dewe-20240607110300-Crime-related_articles_involving_firearms_use"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240607110300","author":"Cameron Dewe","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cameron_Dewe-20240607110300-Crime-related_articles_involving_firearms_use","replies":["c-North8000-20240607122100-Cameron_Dewe-20240607110300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cameron_Dewe-20240607110300-Crime-related_articles_involving_firearms_use"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-North8000-20240607122100-Cameron_Dewe-20240607110300"></span>My own thought is that articles about mis-use of item are off topic from the item itself. For example, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Automobiles" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Automobiles">Wikipedia:WikiProject Automobiles</a> is not listed at <a href="/wiki/Drunk_driving" title="Drunk driving">Drunk driving</a> <b style="color: #0000cc;"><i>North8000</i></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:North8000#top" title="User talk:North8000">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms#c-North8000-20240607122100-Cameron_Dewe-20240607110300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:21, 7 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-North8000-20240607122100-Cameron_Dewe-20240607110300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240607122100","author":"North8000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-North8000-20240607122100-Cameron_Dewe-20240607110300","replies":["c-Cameron_Dewe-20240607221000-North8000-20240607122100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-North8000-20240607122100-Cameron_Dewe-20240607110300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cameron_Dewe-20240607221000-North8000-20240607122100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:North8000" title="User:North8000">North8000</a>: I take your point, but I don't think that really answers the question here. I notice that the banner for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Crime_and_Criminal_Biography" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography">WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography</a> is not listed on <a href="/wiki/Talk:Drunk_driving" title="Talk:Drunk driving">Talk:Drunk driving</a>, either, when the article talks about imprisonment for breaking the law, which would make it a crime. The scope of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Automobiles" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Automobiles">WikiProject Automobiles</a> is also rather broad and includes all "<i>types</i>" of vehicles, which could mean those (mis-)used when drunk driving. So the lack of a banner could simply be an oversight or omission, or someone deciding not to include the banner on the grounds of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PROJSCOPE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PROJSCOPE">project scope</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OVERBANNER" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OVERBANNER">over-bannering</a>. Personally, I would consider it reasonable for someone to add the banner for both WikiProjects. The issue here is that mis-use <b>is</b> considered in-scope for the articles about the firearms items, themselves, does it also mean that a crime-related article such as the <a href="/wiki/2023_Annapolis_shooting" title="2023 Annapolis shooting">2023 Annapolis shooting</a> is also in-scope where the weapons used are described in general terms as a "<i>gun</i>" and a "<i>rifle</i>", without reference to a particular make, model or calibre. - <a href="/wiki/User:Cameron_Dewe" title="User:Cameron Dewe">Cameron Dewe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cameron_Dewe" title="User talk:Cameron Dewe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms#c-Cameron_Dewe-20240607221000-North8000-20240607122100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:10, 7 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cameron_Dewe-20240607221000-North8000-20240607122100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240607221000","author":"Cameron Dewe","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cameron_Dewe-20240607221000-North8000-20240607122100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cameron_Dewe-20240607221000-North8000-20240607122100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-2603:7000:2101:AA00:C88D:848F:5F9A:6FA0-20240801214800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Competes_in_a_few_hours_..-20240801214800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-2603:7000:2101:AA00:C88D:848F:5F9A:6FA0-20240801214800-Competes_in_a_few_hours_..&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Competes in a few hours ..&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Competes in a few hours ..&quot;}--><h2 id="Competes_in_a_few_hours_.." data-mw-thread-id="h-Competes_in_a_few_hours_..-20240801214800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Competes_in_a_few_hours_..-20240801214800"></span>Competes in a few hours ..<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Competes_in_a_few_hours_..-20240801214800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms&amp;action=edit&amp;section=5" title="Edit section: Competes in a few hours .."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-2603:7000:2101:AA00:C88D:848F:5F9A:6FA0-20240801214800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Competes_in_a_few_hours_..-20240801214800","replies":["c-2603:7000:2101:AA00:C88D:848F:5F9A:6FA0-20240801214800-Competes_in_a_few_hours_.."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-2603:7000:2101:AA00:C88D:848F:5F9A:6FA0-20240801214800-Competes_in_a_few_hours_..","timestamp":"20240801214800"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-2603:7000:2101:AA00:C88D:848F:5F9A:6FA0-20240801214800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Competes_in_a_few_hours_..-20240801214800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-2603:7000:2101:AA00:C88D:848F:5F9A:6FA0-20240801214800-Competes_in_a_few_hours_..&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Competes in a few hours ..&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Competes in a few hours ..&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2603:7000:2101:AA00:C88D:848F:5F9A:6FA0-20240801214800-Competes_in_a_few_hours_.."></span>This Olympian competes in a few hours .. in case someone may be interested in reviewing and perhaps creating her draft article -- <a href="/wiki/Draft:Ada_Korkhin" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Ada Korkhin">Draft:Ada Korkhin</a>. In advance of reader interest in her that is sure to come. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2603:7000:2101:AA00:C88D:848F:5F9A:6FA0" title="Special:Contributions/2603:7000:2101:AA00:C88D:848F:5F9A:6FA0">2603:7000:2101:AA00:C88D:848F:5F9A:6FA0</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2603:7000:2101:AA00:C88D:848F:5F9A:6FA0" title="User talk:2603:7000:2101:AA00:C88D:848F:5F9A:6FA0">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms#c-2603:7000:2101:AA00:C88D:848F:5F9A:6FA0-20240801214800-Competes_in_a_few_hours_.." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:48, 1 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2603:7000:2101:AA00:C88D:848F:5F9A:6FA0-20240801214800-Competes_in_a_few_hours_.."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240801214800","author":"2603:7000:2101:AA00:C88D:848F:5F9A:6FA0","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2603:7000:2101:AA00:C88D:848F:5F9A:6FA0-20240801214800-Competes_in_a_few_hours_..","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2603:7000:2101:AA00:C88D:848F:5F9A:6FA0-20240801214800-Competes_in_a_few_hours_.."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Nigel_Ish-20240811092200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style\/Dates_and_numbers-20240811092200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Nigel_Ish-20240811092200-Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style\/Dates_and_numbers&quot;,&quot;c-Dicklyon-20240813021300-Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style\/Dates_and_numbers&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Possibly relevant discussion at Manual of Style\/Dates and numbers&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Possibly relevant discussion at Manual of Style\/Dates and numbers&quot;}--><h2 id="Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers" data-mw-thread-id="h-Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers-20240811092200"><span id="Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style.2FDates_and_numbers"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers-20240811092200"></span>Possibly relevant discussion at Manual of Style/Dates and numbers<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers-20240811092200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms&amp;action=edit&amp;section=6" title="Edit section: Possibly relevant discussion at Manual of Style/Dates and numbers"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nigel_Ish-20240811092200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style\/Dates_and_numbers-20240811092200","replies":["c-Nigel_Ish-20240811092200-Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style\/Dates_and_numbers","c-Dicklyon-20240813021300-Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style\/Dates_and_numbers"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Dicklyon-20240817013900-Dicklyon-20240813021300","timestamp":"20240817013900"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Nigel_Ish-20240811092200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style\/Dates_and_numbers-20240811092200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Nigel_Ish-20240811092200-Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style\/Dates_and_numbers&quot;,&quot;c-Dicklyon-20240813021300-Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style\/Dates_and_numbers&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Possibly relevant discussion at Manual of Style\/Dates and numbers&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Possibly relevant discussion at Manual of Style\/Dates and numbers&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nigel_Ish-20240811092200-Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers#Ammunition_calibre/length_naming_conventions" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers">Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers#Ammunition_calibre/length_naming_conventions</a> - this may be of interest to members of this project.<a href="/wiki/User:Nigel_Ish" title="User:Nigel Ish">Nigel Ish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nigel_Ish" title="User talk:Nigel Ish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms#c-Nigel_Ish-20240811092200-Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:22, 11 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nigel_Ish-20240811092200-Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240811092200","author":"Nigel Ish","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nigel_Ish-20240811092200-Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style\/Dates_and_numbers","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nigel_Ish-20240811092200-Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dicklyon-20240813021300-Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers"></span>Related to that, what's with titles like "<a href="/wiki/7.62%C3%9754mmR" title="7.62×54mmR">7.62×54mmR</a>" and "<a href="/wiki/23%C3%97152mmB" title="23×152mmB">23×152mmB</a>" and "<a href="/wiki/20%C3%97138mmB" title="20×138mmB">20×138mmB</a>". How are these R and B suffixes to be understood? And why do we put them there, when sources more commonly use things like "7.62 × 54R mm" and "23×152B mm" (which are equally hard to interpret)? <a href="/wiki/User:Dicklyon" title="User:Dicklyon">Dicklyon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dicklyon" title="User talk:Dicklyon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms#c-Dicklyon-20240813021300-Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:13, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dicklyon-20240813021300-Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240813021300","author":"Dicklyon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dicklyon-20240813021300-Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style\/Dates_and_numbers","replies":["c-Dicklyon-20240817013900-Dicklyon-20240813021300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dicklyon-20240813021300-Possibly_relevant_discussion_at_Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dicklyon-20240817013900-Dicklyon-20240813021300"></span>Ah, Rim and Belted, I see. Should we try to have a standard on how to present these? <a href="/wiki/User:Dicklyon" title="User:Dicklyon">Dicklyon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dicklyon" title="User talk:Dicklyon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms#c-Dicklyon-20240817013900-Dicklyon-20240813021300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:39, 17 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dicklyon-20240817013900-Dicklyon-20240813021300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240817013900","author":"Dicklyon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Dicklyon-20240817013900-Dicklyon-20240813021300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dicklyon-20240817013900-Dicklyon-20240813021300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Dicklyon-20240814221500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?-20240814221500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Dicklyon-20240814221500-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?&quot;,&quot;c-Dicklyon-20240815034400-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?&quot;,&quot;c-Dicklyon-20240815034600-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Delete List of firearms (A), etc.?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Delete List of firearms (A), etc.?&quot;}--><h2 id="Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?-20240814221500"><span id="Delete_List_of_firearms_.28A.29.2C_etc..3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?-20240814221500"></span>Delete <a href="/wiki/List_of_firearms_(A)" title="List of firearms (A)">List of firearms (A)</a>, etc.?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?-20240814221500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms&amp;action=edit&amp;section=7" title="Edit section: Delete List of firearms (A), etc.?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Dicklyon-20240814221500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?-20240814221500","replies":["c-Dicklyon-20240814221500-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?","c-Dicklyon-20240815034400-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?","c-Dicklyon-20240815034600-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Dicklyon-20240815034600-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?","timestamp":"20240815034600"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Dicklyon-20240814221500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?-20240814221500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Dicklyon-20240814221500-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?&quot;,&quot;c-Dicklyon-20240815034400-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?&quot;,&quot;c-Dicklyon-20240815034600-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Delete List of firearms (A), etc.?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Delete List of firearms (A), etc.?&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dicklyon-20240814221500-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?"></span>Six letters have articles like this, and twenty do not. I did a pass of style fixing on (A), but the rest are as bad and need a lot of work. Do we really want to have these fragments of alphabetical listings, in a searchable encyclopedia? <a href="/wiki/User:Dicklyon" title="User:Dicklyon">Dicklyon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dicklyon" title="User talk:Dicklyon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms#c-Dicklyon-20240814221500-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:15, 14 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dicklyon-20240814221500-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240814221500","author":"Dicklyon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dicklyon-20240814221500-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dicklyon-20240814221500-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dicklyon-20240815034400-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?"></span>I did some case fixing on <a href="/wiki/List_of_firearms_(M)" title="List of firearms (M)">List of firearms (M)</a>, too. <a href="/wiki/User:Dicklyon" title="User:Dicklyon">Dicklyon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dicklyon" title="User talk:Dicklyon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms#c-Dicklyon-20240815034400-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:44, 15 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dicklyon-20240815034400-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240815034400","author":"Dicklyon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dicklyon-20240815034400-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dicklyon-20240815034400-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dicklyon-20240815034600-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?"></span>Looks like these were pulled out of <a href="/wiki/List_of_firearms" title="List of firearms">List of firearms</a>, which continues to accumulate more unsourced stuff under those letters, too. I think I'll nominate the lot for deletion. <a href="/wiki/User:Dicklyon" title="User:Dicklyon">Dicklyon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dicklyon" title="User talk:Dicklyon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms#c-Dicklyon-20240815034600-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:46, 15 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dicklyon-20240815034600-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240815034600","author":"Dicklyon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dicklyon-20240815034600-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dicklyon-20240815034600-Delete_List_of_firearms_(A),_etc.?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Mudwater-20240826223400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-BAR_caps-20240826223400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Mudwater-20240826223400-BAR_caps&quot;,&quot;c-Mudwater-20240827021000-BAR_caps&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;BAR caps&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;BAR caps&quot;}--><h2 id="BAR_caps" data-mw-thread-id="h-BAR_caps-20240826223400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-BAR_caps-20240826223400"></span>BAR caps<span data-mw-comment-end="h-BAR_caps-20240826223400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms&amp;action=edit&amp;section=8" title="Edit section: BAR caps"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mudwater-20240826223400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-BAR_caps-20240826223400","replies":["c-Mudwater-20240826223400-BAR_caps","c-Mudwater-20240827021000-BAR_caps"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Mudwater-20240827021000-BAR_caps","timestamp":"20240827021000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Mudwater-20240826223400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-BAR_caps-20240826223400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Mudwater-20240826223400-BAR_caps&quot;,&quot;c-Mudwater-20240827021000-BAR_caps&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;BAR caps&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;BAR caps&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mudwater-20240826223400-BAR_caps"></span>Hello WikiProject Firearms members. Which is the correct capitalization -- "M1918 Browning Automatic Rifle" or "M1918 Browning automatic rifle"? <s>There is currently a discussion about this, at <a href="/wiki/Talk:M1918_Browning_automatic_rifle#Recent_move" title="Talk:M1918 Browning automatic rifle">Talk:M1918 Browning automatic rifle#Recent move</a>. Interested editors are encouraged to comment there (and not here, to keep the discussion all in one place).</s> <span style="font-family: cursive;">— <a href="/wiki/User:Mudwater" title="User:Mudwater">Mudwater</a><small><sup> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mudwater" title="User talk:Mudwater">Talk</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms#c-Mudwater-20240826223400-BAR_caps" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:34, 26 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mudwater-20240826223400-BAR_caps"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240826223400","author":"Mudwater","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mudwater-20240826223400-BAR_caps","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mudwater-20240826223400-BAR_caps"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mudwater-20240827021000-BAR_caps"></span>The discussion is now at <a href="/wiki/Talk:M1918_Browning_Automatic_Rifle#Requested_move_27_August_2024" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:M1918 Browning Automatic Rifle">Talk:M1918 Browning Automatic Rifle#Requested move 27 August 2024</a>. Interested editors are encouraged to comment there. Thanks. <span style="font-family: cursive;">— <a href="/wiki/User:Mudwater" title="User:Mudwater">Mudwater</a><small><sup> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mudwater" title="User talk:Mudwater">Talk</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms#c-Mudwater-20240827021000-BAR_caps" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:10, 27 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mudwater-20240827021000-BAR_caps"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240827021000","author":"Mudwater","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mudwater-20240827021000-BAR_caps","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mudwater-20240827021000-BAR_caps"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Springee-20241025000300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Request_to_Move_at_Gun_show_loophole-20241025000300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Springee-20241025000300-Request_to_Move_at_Gun_show_loophole&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Request to Move at Gun show loophole&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Request to Move at Gun show loophole&quot;}--><h2 id="Request_to_Move_at_Gun_show_loophole" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_to_Move_at_Gun_show_loophole-20241025000300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_to_Move_at_Gun_show_loophole-20241025000300"></span>Request to Move at <a href="/wiki/Gun_show_loophole" title="Gun show loophole">Gun show loophole</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_to_Move_at_Gun_show_loophole-20241025000300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms&amp;action=edit&amp;section=9" title="Edit section: Request to Move at Gun show loophole"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Springee-20241025000300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Request_to_Move_at_Gun_show_loophole-20241025000300","replies":["c-Springee-20241025000300-Request_to_Move_at_Gun_show_loophole"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Springee-20241025000300-Request_to_Move_at_Gun_show_loophole","timestamp":"20241025000300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Springee-20241025000300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Request_to_Move_at_Gun_show_loophole-20241025000300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Springee-20241025000300-Request_to_Move_at_Gun_show_loophole&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Request to Move at Gun show loophole&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Request to Move at Gun show loophole&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Springee-20241025000300-Request_to_Move_at_Gun_show_loophole"></span>There is a discussion regarding moving the article <a href="/wiki/Gun_show_loophole" title="Gun show loophole">Gun show loophole</a> -> Private sale of firearms in the United States <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gun_show_loophole#Requested_move_24_October_2024">[1]</a>. A related NPOVN discussion is here <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#Gun_show_loophole_endless_discussion_over_NPOV">[2]</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Springee" title="User:Springee">Springee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Springee" title="User talk:Springee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms#c-Springee-20241025000300-Request_to_Move_at_Gun_show_loophole" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:03, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Springee-20241025000300-Request_to_Move_at_Gun_show_loophole"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p> There is a requested move discussion at <a href="/wiki/Talk:5.56%C3%9745mm_NATO#Requested_move_29_October_2024" title="Talk:5.56×45mm NATO">Talk:5.56×45mm NATO#Requested move 29 October 2024</a> that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. <a href="/wiki/User:Yovt" title="User:Yovt">𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yovt" title="User talk:Yovt">𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms#c-Yovt-20241106012200-Requested_move_at_Talk:5.56×45mm_NATO#Requested_move_29_October_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yovt-20241106012200-Requested_move_at_Talk:5.56×45mm_NATO#Requested_move_29_October_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241106012200","author":"Yovt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yovt-20241106012200-Requested_move_at_Talk:5.56\u00d745mm_NATO#Requested_move_29_October_2024","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\ude88\ud835\ude98\ud835\ude9f\ud835\ude9d"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yovt-20241106012200-Requested_move_at_Talk:5.56×45mm_NATO#Requested_move_29_October_2024"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 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id="h-Requested_move_at_Talk:LVOA-C#Requested_move_28_October_2024-20241107153500"></span>Requested move at <a href="/wiki/Talk:LVOA-C#Requested_move_28_October_2024" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:LVOA-C">Talk:LVOA-C#Requested move 28 October 2024</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_move_at_Talk:LVOA-C#Requested_move_28_October_2024-20241107153500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms&amp;action=edit&amp;section=11" title="Edit section: Requested move at Talk:LVOA-C#Requested move 28 October 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Asukite-20241107153500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Requested_move_at_Talk:LVOA-C#Requested_move_28_October_2024-20241107153500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Asukite-20241107153500-Requested_move_at_Talk:LVOA-C#Requested_move_28_October_2024&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Requested move at Talk:LVOA-C#Requested move 28 October 2024&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Requested move at Talk:LVOA-C#Requested move 28 October 2024&quot;}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Asukite-20241107153500-Requested_move_at_Talk:LVOA-C#Requested_move_28_October_2024"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p> There is a requested move discussion at <a href="/wiki/Talk:LVOA-C#Requested_move_28_October_2024" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:LVOA-C">Talk:LVOA-C#Requested move 28 October 2024</a> that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asukite" title="User talk:Asukite"><span style="color:Purple;font-size:medium;font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"> ASUKITE</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms#c-Asukite-20241107153500-Requested_move_at_Talk:LVOA-C#Requested_move_28_October_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Asukite-20241107153500-Requested_move_at_Talk:LVOA-C#Requested_move_28_October_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241107153500","author":"Asukite","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Asukite-20241107153500-Requested_move_at_Talk:LVOA-C#Requested_move_28_October_2024","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Asukite-20241107153500-Requested_move_at_Talk:LVOA-C#Requested_move_28_October_2024"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 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id="Requested_move_at_Talk:Gun_Control_in_the_Third_Reich_.28book.29.23Requested_move_6_November_2024"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_move_at_Talk:Gun_Control_in_the_Third_Reich_(book)#Requested_move_6_No-20241114180100"></span>Requested move at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Gun_Control_in_the_Third_Reich_(book)#Requested_move_6_November_2024" title="Talk:Gun Control in the Third Reich (book)">Talk:Gun Control in the Third Reich (book)#Requested move 6 November 2024</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_move_at_Talk:Gun_Control_in_the_Third_Reich_(book)#Requested_move_6_No-20241114180100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms&amp;action=edit&amp;section=12" title="Edit section: Requested move at Talk:Gun Control in the Third Reich (book)#Requested move 6 November 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span 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class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p> There is a requested move discussion at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Gun_Control_in_the_Third_Reich_(book)#Requested_move_6_November_2024" title="Talk:Gun Control in the Third Reich (book)">Talk:Gun Control in the Third Reich (book)#Requested move 6 November 2024</a> that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asukite" title="User talk:Asukite"><span style="color:Purple;font-size:medium;font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"> ASUKITE</span></a> <a 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