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Belgium is one of them. This list mentions a variant of the Belgian flag, allegedly the "1858 version". This is false. Belgium has never changed its flag since its adoption in 1831. For more info and sources, check <a href="/wiki/Flag_of_Belgium" title="Flag of Belgium">Flag of Belgium</a>: "On 23 January 1831, the stripes changed from horizontal to vertical, and on 12 October, the flag attained its modern form, with the black placed at the hoist side of the flag.". No further changes have been made since. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Takk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Takk (page does not exist)">Takk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Takk" title="User talk:Takk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement#c-Takk-2022-06-17T14:51:00.000Z-Belgian_"variant"_flag" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:51, 17 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Takk-2022-06-17T14:51:00.000Z-Belgian_"variant"_flag"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Takk-2022-06-17T14:51:00.000Z-Belgian_"variant"_flag"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ZH8000-2022-06-17T15:01:00.000Z-Takk-2022-06-17T14:51:00.000Z"></span>The King of Belgium signed the convention, not a prime minister, nor any other governmental or parliamentary representative! Therefore the flag of Kingdom of Belgium is given (adopted 1850/8) which seems also to be the Government ensign of Belgium. -- <a href="/wiki/User:ZH8000" title="User:ZH8000">ZH8000</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ZH8000" title="User talk:ZH8000">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement#c-ZH8000-2022-06-17T15:01:00.000Z-Takk-2022-06-17T14:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:01, 17 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ZH8000-2022-06-17T15:01:00.000Z-Takk-2022-06-17T14:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ZH8000-2022-06-17T15:01:00.000Z-Takk-2022-06-17T14:51:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Takk-2022-06-17T16:37:00.000Z-ZH8000-2022-06-17T15:01:00.000Z"></span>I am sorry but that is simply not correct. Representatives of 12 states and kingdoms signed the convention (it is literally what the article says). It's not the King himself who signed it. The flag of the Kingdom of Belgium has since 1831 always been the same. Also, if you were to apply that logic, almost none of the flags currently listed are correct, as almost every King and/or Government has its own ensign. For example, the Netherlands had <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_the_Netherlands#/media/File:Royal_Flag_of_the_Netherlands_until_1908.png">this Royal flag</a>. The King of Spain uses <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Spain#/media/File:Estandarte_Real_de_Espa%C3%B1a.svg">this standard</a>. Currently all the other flags in the list are the ones that were at that time the national flag, and the same should apply to Belgium. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Takk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Takk (page does not exist)">Takk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Takk" title="User talk:Takk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement#c-Takk-2022-06-17T16:37:00.000Z-ZH8000-2022-06-17T15:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:37, 17 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Takk-2022-06-17T16:37:00.000Z-ZH8000-2022-06-17T15:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Takk-2022-06-17T16:37:00.000Z-ZH8000-2022-06-17T15:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Article_assessment" data-mw-thread-id="h-Article_assessment-20230115081700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Article_assessment-20230115081700"></span>Article assessment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Article_assessment-20230115081700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Article assessment"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Otr500-20230115081700-Article_assessment"></span>Article assessed to C-class.</dd></dl> <ul><li>1)- An "Insufficient inline citations" tag since May 2022 has not been addressed,</li> <li>2)- Far too many unsourced sections, subsections, and paragraphs,</li> <li>3)- Inline citation tags (December 2020) not addressed.</li></ul> <dl><dd>The article fails the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Content_assessment/B-Class_criteria" title="Wikipedia:Content assessment/B-Class criteria">B-class criteria #1</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Otr500" title="User:Otr500">Otr500</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Otr500" title="User talk:Otr500">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement#c-Otr500-20230115081700-Article_assessment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:17, 15 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Otr500-20230115081700-Article_assessment"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Otr500-20230115081700-Article_assessment"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="3_organizations" data-mw-thread-id="h-3_organizations-20230206130700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-3_organizations-20230206130700"></span>3 organizations<span data-mw-comment-end="h-3_organizations-20230206130700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: 3 organizations"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KaJunl-20230206130700-3_organizations"></span>The intro states "Within it there are three distinct organisations that are legally independent from each other" but it wasn't actually obvious to me from the article what those 3 organizations were. This could be made more clear. -<a href="/wiki/User:KaJunl" title="User:KaJunl">KaJunl</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KaJunl" title="User talk:KaJunl">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement#c-KaJunl-20230206130700-3_organizations" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:07, 6 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KaJunl-20230206130700-3_organizations"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KaJunl-20230206130700-3_organizations"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Image-_legend" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image-_legend-20230206130900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image-_legend-20230206130900"></span>Image- legend<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image-_legend-20230206130900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Image- legend"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KaJunl-20230206130900-Image-_legend"></span>This image is embedded in the article: </p><p><a class="external free" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement#/media/File%3ARedCross_MagenDavid_RedCresent.svg">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement#/media/File%3ARedCross_MagenDavid_RedCresent.svg</a> </p><p>There is no legend or key so I have no idea what the colors mean. Perhaps it is just because I am on mobile? But it would be better if this image were improved to have a key. -<a href="/wiki/User:KaJunl" title="User:KaJunl">KaJunl</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KaJunl" title="User talk:KaJunl">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement#c-KaJunl-20230206130900-Image-_legend" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:09, 6 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KaJunl-20230206130900-Image-_legend"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KaJunl-20230206130900-Image-_legend"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2A00:23C8:9883:2601:24D7:F3B:2187:A1CA-20231115125900-KaJunl-20230206130900"></span>If you click on the map, the legend will appear underneath the image as the image expands. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2A00:23C8:9883:2601:24D7:F3B:2187:A1CA" title="Special:Contributions/2A00:23C8:9883:2601:24D7:F3B:2187:A1CA">2A00:23C8:9883:2601:24D7:F3B:2187:A1CA</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2A00:23C8:9883:2601:24D7:F3B:2187:A1CA&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2A00:23C8:9883:2601:24D7:F3B:2187:A1CA (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement#c-2A00:23C8:9883:2601:24D7:F3B:2187:A1CA-20231115125900-KaJunl-20230206130900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:59, 15 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2A00:23C8:9883:2601:24D7:F3B:2187:A1CA-20231115125900-KaJunl-20230206130900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2A00:23C8:9883:2601:24D7:F3B:2187:A1CA-20231115125900-KaJunl-20230206130900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Removing_Hamas-Isreal_conflict_part" data-mw-thread-id="h-Removing_Hamas-Isreal_conflict_part-20231109181800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Removing_Hamas-Isreal_conflict_part-20231109181800"></span>Removing Hamas-Isreal conflict part<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Removing_Hamas-Isreal_conflict_part-20231109181800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Removing Hamas-Isreal conflict part"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ZH8000-20231109181800-Removing_Hamas-Isreal_conflict_part"></span>I tempted to fully remove this extending and too extended part since it fully and unambiguously violates <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTNEWS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTNEWS">WP:NOTNEWS</a>. Any votes? -- <a href="/wiki/User:ZH8000" title="User:ZH8000">ZH8000</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ZH8000" title="User talk:ZH8000">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement#c-ZH8000-20231109181800-Removing_Hamas-Isreal_conflict_part" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 9 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ZH8000-20231109181800-Removing_Hamas-Isreal_conflict_part"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ZH8000-20231109181800-Removing_Hamas-Isreal_conflict_part"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Please_retain_important_paragraphs_on_ICRC_and_Red_Crescent_in_the_Hamas-Israel_conflict" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_retain_important_paragraphs_on_ICRC_and_Red_Crescent_in_the_Hamas-Israel-20231114215200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_retain_important_paragraphs_on_ICRC_and_Red_Crescent_in_the_Hamas-Israel-20231114215200"></span>Please retain important paragraphs on ICRC and Red Crescent in the Hamas-Israel conflict<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_retain_important_paragraphs_on_ICRC_and_Red_Crescent_in_the_Hamas-Israel-20231114215200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Please retain important paragraphs on ICRC and Red Crescent in the Hamas-Israel conflict"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-213.55.224.21-20231114215200-Please_retain_important_paragraphs_on_ICRC_and_Red_Crescent_in_the_Hamas-Israel"></span>The paragraphs contain carefully selected details on ICRC and Red Crescent efforts during the conflict. Because it is one of the largest military interventions after World War II for the ICRC, it is important to document it. No reason to delete these paragraphs. I also revised all the previous events a while ago and continued with the same neutral style. People are welcome to edit the text. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/213.55.224.21" title="Special:Contributions/213.55.224.21">213.55.224.21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:213.55.224.21" title="User talk:213.55.224.21">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement#c-213.55.224.21-20231114215200-Please_retain_important_paragraphs_on_ICRC_and_Red_Crescent_in_the_Hamas-Israel" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:52, 14 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-213.55.224.21-20231114215200-Please_retain_important_paragraphs_on_ICRC_and_Red_Crescent_in_the_Hamas-Israel"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-213.55.224.21-20231114215200-Please_retain_important_paragraphs_on_ICRC_and_Red_Crescent_in_the_Hamas-Israel"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ZH8000-20231115134600-213.55.224.21-20231114215200"></span>Go to and provide your information at <a href="https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_page" class="extiw" title="n:Main page">Wikinews</a>, but not here, since wikipedia is not a newspaper. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTNEWS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTNEWS">WP:NOTNEWS</a> -- <a href="/wiki/User:ZH8000" title="User:ZH8000">ZH8000</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ZH8000" title="User talk:ZH8000">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement#c-ZH8000-20231115134600-213.55.224.21-20231114215200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:46, 15 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ZH8000-20231115134600-213.55.224.21-20231114215200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ZH8000-20231115134600-213.55.224.21-20231114215200"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-213.55.226.39-20231124094100-ZH8000-20231115134600"></span>yes, wikipedia is not a newspaper but it takes content from newspaper articles to convey important developments that later become historical facts. I am changing and shortening my entries to make them more suitable for the general audience. I also include statements by the ICRC itself not just from newspapers.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/213.55.226.39" title="Special:Contributions/213.55.226.39">213.55.226.39</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:213.55.226.39" title="User talk:213.55.226.39">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement#c-213.55.226.39-20231124094100-ZH8000-20231115134600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:41, 24 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-213.55.226.39-20231124094100-ZH8000-20231115134600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-213.55.226.39-20231124094100-ZH8000-20231115134600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-213.55.226.39-20231124165800-213.55.226.39-20231124094100"></span>ok, giving up. I am not starting an editing war. If this is just general information with no relation to what's going on. Be it. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/213.55.226.39" title="Special:Contributions/213.55.226.39">213.55.226.39</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:213.55.226.39" title="User talk:213.55.226.39">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement#c-213.55.226.39-20231124165800-213.55.226.39-20231124094100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:58, 24 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-213.55.226.39-20231124165800-213.55.226.39-20231124094100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-213.55.226.39-20231124165800-213.55.226.39-20231124094100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Orphaned_references_in_International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement" data-mw-thread-id="h-Orphaned_references_in_International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement-20231205070800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Orphaned_references_in_International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement-20231205070800"></span>Orphaned references in <a href="/wiki/International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement" title="International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement">International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Orphaned_references_in_International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement-20231205070800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Orphaned references in International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AnomieBOT-20231205070800-Orphaned_references_in_International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement"></span>I check pages listed in <a href="/wiki/Category:Pages_with_incorrect_ref_formatting" title="Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting">Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting</a> to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for <a href="/wiki/User:AnomieBOT/docs/OrphanReferenceFixer" title="User:AnomieBOT/docs/OrphanReferenceFixer">orphaned references</a> in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of <a href="/wiki/International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement" title="International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement">International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement</a>'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for <i>this</i> article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article. </p> <p><b>Reference named "auto":</b></p><ul> <li>From <a href="/wiki/Palestinian_territories" class="mw-redirect" title="Palestinian territories">Palestinian territories</a>: <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite class="citation web cs1"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20080509082132/http://www.lrb.co.uk/v30/n03/sieg01_.html">"Gaza's Future, Henry Siegman, London Review of Books"</a>. Lrb.co.uk. Archived from <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.lrb.co.uk/v30/n03/sieg01_.html">the original</a> on 9 May 2008<span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">30 June</span> 2010</span>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=unknown&rft.btitle=Gaza%27s+Future%2C+Henry+Siegman%2C+London+Review+of+Books&rft.pub=Lrb.co.uk&rft_id=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lrb.co.uk%2Fv30%2Fn03%2Fsieg01_.html&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3ATalk%3AInternational+Red+Cross+and+Red+Crescent+Movement" class="Z3988"></span></li> <li>From <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a>: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="CITEREFDellaPergola2022" class="citation book cs1">DellaPergola, Sergio (2022). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-78706-6_7/tables/14">"World Jewish Population, 2020"</a>. <i>American Jewish Year Book 2020</i>. Vol. 120. pp. <span class="nowrap">273–</span>370. <a href="/wiki/Doi_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="Doi (identifier)">doi</a>:<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://doi.org/10.1007%2F978-3-030-78706-6_7">10.1007/978-3-030-78706-6_7</a>. <a href="/wiki/ISBN_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="ISBN (identifier)">ISBN</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/978-3-030-78705-9" title="Special:BookSources/978-3-030-78705-9"><bdi>978-3-030-78705-9</bdi></a>. <a href="/wiki/S2CID_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="S2CID (identifier)">S2CID</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://api.semanticscholar.org/CorpusID:245642037">245642037</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220520051424/https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-78706-6_7">Archived</a> from the original on 20 May 2022<span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">20 May</span> 2022</span>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=bookitem&rft.atitle=World+Jewish+Population%2C+2020&rft.btitle=American+Jewish+Year+Book+2020&rft.pages=%3Cspan+class%3D%22nowrap%22%3E273-%3C%2Fspan%3E370&rft.date=2022&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.semanticscholar.org%2FCorpusID%3A245642037%23id-name%3DS2CID&rft_id=info%3Adoi%2F10.1007%2F978-3-030-78706-6_7&rft.isbn=978-3-030-78705-9&rft.aulast=DellaPergola&rft.aufirst=Sergio&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Flink.springer.com%2Fchapter%2F10.1007%2F978-3-030-78706-6_7%2Ftables%2F14&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3ATalk%3AInternational+Red+Cross+and+Red+Crescent+Movement" class="Z3988"></span></li> <li>From <a href="/wiki/Netherlands" title="Netherlands">Netherlands</a>: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite class="citation web cs1"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/dossier/dossier-asiel-migratie-en-integratie/hoeveel-inwoners-hebben-een-herkomst-buiten-nederland">"How many residents have origins outside the Netherlands"</a>. <i>opendata.cbs.nl</i>. March 2023<span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">21 July</span> 2023</span>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=unknown&rft.jtitle=opendata.cbs.nl&rft.atitle=How+many+residents+have+origins+outside+the+Netherlands&rft.date=2023-03&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbs.nl%2Fnl-nl%2Fdossier%2Fdossier-asiel-migratie-en-integratie%2Fhoeveel-inwoners-hebben-een-herkomst-buiten-nederland&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3ATalk%3AInternational+Red+Cross+and+Red+Crescent+Movement" class="Z3988"></span></li> <li>From <a href="/wiki/Second_Italian_War_of_Independence" title="Second Italian War of Independence">Second Italian War of Independence</a>: Clodfelter, p. 181</li> <li>From <a href="/wiki/Ottoman_Empire" title="Ottoman Empire">Ottoman Empire</a>: "In 1363 the Ottoman capital moved from Bursa to Edirne, although Bursa retained its spiritual and economic importance." <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.kultur.gov.tr/–EN,33810/ottoman-capital-bursa.html"><i>Ottoman Capital Bursa</i></a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160305185907/http://www.kultur.gov.tr/%e2%80%93en,33810/ottoman-capital-bursa.html">Archived</a> 5 March 2016 at the <a href="/wiki/Wayback_Machine" title="Wayback Machine">Wayback Machine</a>. 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