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id="h--20241122153100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="h--20241122153100"></span></span><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Obivan_Kenobi-20241122153100"></span>Tai apie gelžk. sarg. būdeles irgi nusimato straipsniai, jei laužtiniai skliaustai jau paruošti? --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Obivan_Kenobi" title="Naudotojas:Obivan Kenobi">Obivan Kenobi</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Obivan_Kenobi" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Obivan Kenobi">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C4%85ra%C5%A1o_aptarimas:1923_m._Alytaus_apskrities_gyventoj%C5%B3_sura%C5%A1ymas#c-Obivan_Kenobi-20241122153100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:31, 22 lapkričio 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Obivan_Kenobi-20241122153100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span 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Na, visgi turėtų būti tam tikras objektų sąrašas (<a href="/wiki/Vikipedija:S%C4%85ra%C5%A1ai" title="Vikipedija:Sąrašai">Vikipedija:Sąrašai</a>). Taip pat žr. <a href="/wiki/VP:PERTEKLIN%C4%96" class="mw-redirect" title="VP:PERTEKLINĖ">VP:PERTEKLINĖ</a> (apie statistiką). Man atrodo, kad čia labiau tinka Vikiknygoms. --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojas:Homo ergaster">Homo ergaster</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Homo ergaster">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C4%85ra%C5%A1o_aptarimas:1923_m._Alytaus_apskrities_gyventoj%C5%B3_sura%C5%A1ymas#c-Homo_ergaster-20241122172500-Obivan_Kenobi-20241122153100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:25, 22 lapkričio 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Homo_ergaster-20241122172500-Obivan_Kenobi-20241122153100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122172500","author":"Homo ergaster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Homo_ergaster-20241122172500-Obivan_Kenobi-20241122153100","replies":["c-Homo_ergaster-20241122173800-Homo_ergaster-20241122172500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Homo_ergaster-20241122172500-Obivan_Kenobi-20241122153100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Homo_ergaster-20241122173800-Homo_ergaster-20241122172500"></span>Bent jau aš taip suprantu, kad tokios statistinės suvestinės (gal ir visai vertinga statistika, bet viskam sava vieta) pagal minėtas taisykles enciklopedijai netinka ir turėtų būti iškeltos į Vikiknygas (gal bus argumentų, kad tinka). --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojas:Homo ergaster">Homo ergaster</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Homo ergaster">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C4%85ra%C5%A1o_aptarimas:1923_m._Alytaus_apskrities_gyventoj%C5%B3_sura%C5%A1ymas#c-Homo_ergaster-20241122173800-Homo_ergaster-20241122172500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:38, 22 lapkričio 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Homo_ergaster-20241122173800-Homo_ergaster-20241122172500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122173800","author":"Homo ergaster","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Homo_ergaster-20241122173800-Homo_ergaster-20241122172500","replies":["c-Homo_ergaster-20241122173800-Homo_ergaster-20241122173800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Homo_ergaster-20241122173800-Homo_ergaster-20241122172500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Homo_ergaster-20241122173800-Homo_ergaster-20241122173800"></span>Jei sakysim, kad tinka, tai vis vien kam tos artimiausios stotelės? Kažkaip nelabai dera prie surašymo duomenų. --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojas:Homo ergaster">Homo ergaster</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Homo ergaster">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C4%85ra%C5%A1o_aptarimas:1923_m._Alytaus_apskrities_gyventoj%C5%B3_sura%C5%A1ymas#c-Homo_ergaster-20241122173800-Homo_ergaster-20241122173800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:38, 22 lapkričio 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Homo_ergaster-20241122173800-Homo_ergaster-20241122173800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122173800","author":"Homo ergaster","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Homo_ergaster-20241122173800-Homo_ergaster-20241122173800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Homo_ergaster-20241122173800-Homo_ergaster-20241122173800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hugo.arg-20241122175000"></span>Senuosiuose surašymuose (kaip ir 1923 m.) nurodomas atstumas iki artimiausios gelež. stoties. Bet ar čia labai vertinga informacija dabar - abejočiau. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojas:Hugo.arg">Hugo.arg</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Hugo.arg" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Hugo.arg">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C4%85ra%C5%A1o_aptarimas:1923_m._Alytaus_apskrities_gyventoj%C5%B3_sura%C5%A1ymas#c-Hugo.arg-20241122175000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:50, 22 lapkričio 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hugo.arg-20241122175000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122175000","author":"Hugo.arg","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hugo.arg-20241122175000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hugo.arg-20241122175000"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CD-20241123054800"></span>Na, apie būdeles neketinau ir neketinu rašyti. Dėl stočių – galima lengvai nuimti, jeigu taip nutarsime (tereikės sutrumpinti {{<a href="/wiki/%C5%A0ablonas:Lt_1923_eilut%C4%97" title="Šablonas:Lt 1923 eilutė">Lt 1923 eilutė</a>}} šabloną). Mano akimis, tokie sąrašai yra naudingi ir tinkami Vikipedijai. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:CD" title="Naudotojas:CD">CD</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:CD" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:CD">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C4%85ra%C5%A1o_aptarimas:1923_m._Alytaus_apskrities_gyventoj%C5%B3_sura%C5%A1ymas#c-CD-20241123054800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:48, 23 lapkričio 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CD-20241123054800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123054800","author":"CD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-CD-20241123054800","replies":["c-Obivan_Kenobi-20241123063000-CD-20241123054800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CD-20241123054800"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Obivan_Kenobi-20241123063000-CD-20241123054800"></span>Jei neketini apie būdeles rašyti, įdomu, kaip tada išspręsi skliaustų problemą? O gal nesvarbu tvarkingas formatas, tegul lieka, panašiai, kaip ir <a href="/wiki/LFF_III_lyga#Nuorodos" title="LFF III lyga">čia</a>? --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Obivan_Kenobi" title="Naudotojas:Obivan Kenobi">Obivan Kenobi</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Obivan_Kenobi" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Obivan Kenobi">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C4%85ra%C5%A1o_aptarimas:1923_m._Alytaus_apskrities_gyventoj%C5%B3_sura%C5%A1ymas#c-Obivan_Kenobi-20241123063000-CD-20241123054800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:30, 23 lapkričio 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Obivan_Kenobi-20241123063000-CD-20241123054800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123063000","author":"Obivan Kenobi","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Obivan_Kenobi-20241123063000-CD-20241123054800","replies":["c-Homo_ergaster-20241123082500-Obivan_Kenobi-20241123063000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Obivan_Kenobi-20241123063000-CD-20241123054800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Homo_ergaster-20241123082500-Obivan_Kenobi-20241123063000"></span>Jei aktyviai redaguojamas, dedame "inuse". O jei ne, tai blogai, kad lieka pusiau skusti, pusiau lupti straipsniai ir sąrašai. Ir ne tik CD, tas pats ir su egzotiškais futbolo klubais (<a href="/wiki/Northern_Dynamo_FC" title="Northern Dynamo FC">Northern Dynamo FC</a> ir pan.). Ne pati geriausia mados tendencija. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojas:Homo ergaster">Homo ergaster</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Homo_ergaster" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Homo ergaster">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C4%85ra%C5%A1o_aptarimas:1923_m._Alytaus_apskrities_gyventoj%C5%B3_sura%C5%A1ymas#c-Homo_ergaster-20241123082500-Obivan_Kenobi-20241123063000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:25, 23 lapkričio 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Homo_ergaster-20241123082500-Obivan_Kenobi-20241123063000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123082500","author":"Homo ergaster","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Homo_ergaster-20241123082500-Obivan_Kenobi-20241123063000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Homo_ergaster-20241123082500-Obivan_Kenobi-20241123063000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CD-20241123082200"></span>Ką tik išsprendžiau surašymo šablone ir tavo nurodyto tipo futbolo šablonuose. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:CD" title="Naudotojas:CD">CD</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:CD" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:CD">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C4%85ra%C5%A1o_aptarimas:1923_m._Alytaus_apskrities_gyventoj%C5%B3_sura%C5%A1ymas#c-CD-20241123082200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:22, 23 lapkričio 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CD-20241123082200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123082200","author":"CD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-CD-20241123082200","replies":["c-Obivan_Kenobi-20241123084400-CD-20241123082200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CD-20241123082200"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Obivan_Kenobi-20241123084400-CD-20241123082200"></span>Na, puiku. Gaila tik, kad nesutvarkoma iškart, o tik po to, kai pabaksnojama pirštu. --<a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:Obivan_Kenobi" title="Naudotojas:Obivan Kenobi">Obivan Kenobi</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:Obivan_Kenobi" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:Obivan Kenobi">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C4%85ra%C5%A1o_aptarimas:1923_m._Alytaus_apskrities_gyventoj%C5%B3_sura%C5%A1ymas#c-Obivan_Kenobi-20241123084400-CD-20241123082200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:44, 23 lapkričio 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Obivan_Kenobi-20241123084400-CD-20241123082200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123084400","author":"Obivan Kenobi","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Obivan_Kenobi-20241123084400-CD-20241123082200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Obivan_Kenobi-20241123084400-CD-20241123082200"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CD-20241123085000"></span>Tuomet, kai dariau, neradau techninių sprendimų. Dabar pavyko atrasti. Jeigu dar rasi – duok žinoti, bet tikiuosi, kad neliko. Suprantu, kad kartais užnervina. <a href="/wiki/Naudotojas:CD" title="Naudotojas:CD">CD</a> (<a href="/wiki/Naudotojo_aptarimas:CD" title="Naudotojo aptarimas:CD">aptarimas</a>) <a href="https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C4%85ra%C5%A1o_aptarimas:1923_m._Alytaus_apskrities_gyventoj%C5%B3_sura%C5%A1ymas#c-CD-20241123085000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:50, 23 lapkričio 2024 (EET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CD-20241123085000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">atsakyti</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123085000","author":"CD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-CD-20241123085000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CD-20241123085000"></span> </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐api‐ext.codfw.main‐7556f8b5dd‐pmcmv Cached time: 20241123085047 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [user‐signature] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.011 seconds CPU time usage: 0.021 seconds Real time usage: 0.031 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 19/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 48/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 30/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 5/100 Expensive parser function count: 0/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 0/5000000 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 2.055 1 Šablonas:Tl 100.00% 2.055 1 -total --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key ltwiki:pcache:idhash:672925-0!canonical and timestamp 20241123085117 and revision id 7436739. 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