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It is also the form which most frequently turns up in an online search. I would be interested in any feedback about this. <a href="/wiki/User:MishaPan" title="User:MishaPan">MishaPan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Barlaam_of_Seminara#c-MishaPan-2007-06-13T18:15:00.000Z-Name_Change" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:15, 13 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MishaPan-2007-06-13T18:15:00.000Z-Name_Change"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-06-13T18:15:00.000Z","author":"MishaPan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MishaPan-2007-06-13T18:15:00.000Z-Name_Change","replies":["c-Johnbod-2007-06-13T20:15:00.000Z-MishaPan-2007-06-13T18:15:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MishaPan-2007-06-13T18:15:00.000Z-Name_Change"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnbod-2007-06-13T20:15:00.000Z-MishaPan-2007-06-13T18:15:00.000Z"></span>Can you produce some ghit analysis on this? Also a formal survey should perhaps be done. Thanks - I will go with whatever is most commonly used. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnbod" title="User:Johnbod">Johnbod</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Barlaam_of_Seminara#c-Johnbod-2007-06-13T20:15:00.000Z-MishaPan-2007-06-13T18:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:15, 13 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnbod-2007-06-13T20:15:00.000Z-MishaPan-2007-06-13T18:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-06-13T20:15:00.000Z","author":"Johnbod","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Johnbod-2007-06-13T20:15:00.000Z-MishaPan-2007-06-13T18:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnbod-2007-06-13T20:15:00.000Z-MishaPan-2007-06-13T18:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MishaPan-2007-06-13T20:21:00.000Z-Name_Change"></span>"Barlaam of Calabria" produces 10,500 hits on Google.com; "Barlaam of Seminara" produces 575. <a href="/wiki/User:MishaPan" title="User:MishaPan">MishaPan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Barlaam_of_Seminara#c-MishaPan-2007-06-13T20:21:00.000Z-Name_Change" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:21, 13 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MishaPan-2007-06-13T20:21:00.000Z-Name_Change"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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