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Edit summary is misleading at best</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#A_cookie_for_you!">9 A cookie for you!</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-10"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#RSSSF">10 RSSSF</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-11"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#WaybackMedic">11 WaybackMedic</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-12"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Backlinks_report_2023">12 Backlinks report 2023</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-13"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Archiving_chapter_urls">13 Archiving chapter urls</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-14"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Incorrect_dead_flags_and_archive.today">14 Incorrect dead flags and archive.today</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-15"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#WaybackMedic_2.5_adding_unneceesary_URLs">15 WaybackMedic 2.5 adding unneceesary URLs</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-16"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Timestamp_mismatch">16 Timestamp mismatch</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-17"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Economy_of_Zimbabwean">17 Economy of Zimbabwean</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-18"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Backlinks">18 Backlinks</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-19"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Bot_put_italics_in_strange_places">19 Bot put italics in strange places</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-20"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Flagging_non-dead_link_as_dead_(2)">20 Flagging non-dead link as dead (2)</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-21"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Backlinks_timing">21 Backlinks timing</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-22"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Buck_Goldstein">22 Buck Goldstein</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-23"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Preserving_the_correct_archived_version_of_archive.today_links">23 Preserving the correct archived version of archive.today links</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-24"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#bug_report">24 bug report</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-25"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Bug_report:_Incorrect_archive-date">25 Bug report: Incorrect archive-date</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-26"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#bug_report_(2)">26 bug report (2)</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-27"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#bug_report_(3)_Bot_ignores_cbignore">27 bug report (3) Bot ignores cbignore</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-28"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Please_don't_convert_old_Google_patents_links_to_archive.today">28 Please don't convert old Google patents links to archive.today</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-29"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Job_18_showing_up_in_WPCleaner">29 Job 18 showing up in WPCleaner</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-30"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Typo">30 Typo</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-31"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Thanks">31 Thanks</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-32"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Tampabay.com">32 Tampabay.com</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-33"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Other_wikis">33 Other wikis</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-34"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#bot_destructive">34 bot destructive</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-35"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Bug_report_-_templates_in_images_in_infoboxes">35 Bug report - templates in images in infoboxes</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-36"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Job_15_GA_mismatches_stoppage">36 Job 15 GA mismatches stoppage</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-37"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Broke_139_archive.ph_links!_They_are_clearly_labeled.">37 Broke 139 archive.ph links! They are clearly labeled.</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-38"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Archive.today_isn't_accessible_from_Italy">38 Archive.today isn't accessible from Italy</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-39"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#%22url-status=usurped%22_causes_a_CS1_message">39 "url-status=usurped" causes a CS1 message</a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-40"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Oil_for_your_bot">40 Oil for your bot</a></li> </ul> </div> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(1)">  <h2 id="Flagging_non-dead_link_as_dead" data-mw-thread-id="h-Flagging_non-dead_link_as_dead-20220718111700">Flagging non-dead link as dead</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Flagging non-dead link as dead" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-208" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20220723155600-Flagging_non-dead_link_as_dead">2 years ago</a>18 comments4 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-1 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-1"> <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DOjos_de_Mar%26diff%3D1098932177%26oldid%3D1077160870">This edit</a> flagged <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.academia.edu/download/30869670/Turismo_y_Territorio_en_Salta-_Caceres_et_al-_CONICET-UBA_2012.pdf">this URL</a> as dead even though it isn't. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Jo-Jo_Eumerus?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Jo-Jo Eumerus">Jo-Jo Eumerus</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Jo-Jo_Eumerus?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Jo-Jo_Eumerus-20220718111700-Flagging_non-dead_link_as_dead" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:17, 18 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Same with these edits: <ul> <li><a class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DTiberius_Gracchus%26oldid%3D1098930968">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tiberius_Gracchus&oldid=1098930968</a></li> <li><a class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DCaesar%2527s_civil_war%26oldid%3D1098935280">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Caesar%27s_civil_war&oldid=1098935280</a></li> </ul> </dd> </dl> <dl> <dd> I appreciate it probably has to do with some kind of automatic PDF link serving in Javascript that Academia.edu uses wouldn't be readily captured with a bot; I don't know how fixable it is, but the links noted are not dead at all; I reverted both edits that the bot flagged. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Ifly6?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Ifly6">Ifly6</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Ifly6?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Ifly6">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Ifly6-20220718143500-Jo-Jo_Eumerus-20220718111700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:35, 18 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> <dd></dd> <dd> The url that Editor <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Jo-Jo_Eumerus?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Jo-Jo Eumerus">Jo-Jo Eumerus</a> linked: <ul> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.academia.edu/download/30869670/Turismo_y_Territorio_en_Salta-_Caceres_et_al-_CONICET-UBA_2012.pdf">https://www.academia.edu/download/30869670/Turismo_y_Territorio_en_Salta-_Caceres_et_al-_CONICET-UBA_2012.pdf</a> – dead for me</li> </ul> </dd> <dd> Both of the urls that Editor <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Ifly6?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Ifly6">Ifly6</a> links: <ul> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.academia.edu/download/31557049/Peter_Russell_-_Babeuf_and_the_Gracchi_(MHJ_Vol._36_(2008)__pp._41-57).pdf">https://www.academia.edu/download/31557049/Peter_Russell_-_Babeuf_and_the_Gracchi_(MHJ_Vol._36_(2008)__pp._41-57).pdf</a> – dead for me</li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.academia.edu/download/51344857/Iris-_Fall_of_the_Roman_Republic.pdf">https://www.academia.edu/download/51344857/Iris-_Fall_of_the_Roman_Republic.pdf</a> – dead for me</li> </ul> </dd> <dd> There was some discussion about these kinds of academia links at <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Link_rot/URL_change_requests?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#www.academia.edu/download/" title="Wikipedia:Link rot/URL change requests">Wikipedia:Link rot/URL change requests § www.academia.edu/download/</a> </dd> <dd> —<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <s><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Trappist_the_monk-20220718144300-Jo-Jo_Eumerus-20220718111700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:43, 18 July 2022 (UTC)</a></s> 14:46, 18 July 2022 (UTC)<span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> <ul> <li><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Jo-Jo_Eumerus?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Jo-Jo Eumerus">Jo-Jo Eumerus</a> & <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Ifly6?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Ifly6">User:Ifly6</a> they are dead for me (USA). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://ghostarchive.org/archive/UR1dl">Example</a>. Are you getting a redirect to a cloudfront URL? Wondering if there is some kind of location-aware policy that determines when to serve the cloudfront URL vs a 404. If the cloudfront URL was known, it would be possible to save it at the Wayback Machine, then use the Cloudfront-Wayback URL on Wikipedia treated as a dead link (due to its &Expires self-destruct mechanism see <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:AWSURL?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:AWSURL">WP:AWSURL</a>). However, I wonder about copyright if academia.edu is making them unavailable in the US and possibly elsewhere, question why have that policy if not a rights issue. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220718150400-Jo-Jo_Eumerus-20220718111700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:04, 18 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I'm in the US and am getting the links promptly. The links I am getting are Cloudfront ones with an expiry; I used the Academic.edu links to avoid the known expiry. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Ifly6?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Ifly6">Ifly6</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Ifly6?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Ifly6">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Ifly6-20220718154100-GreenC-20220718150400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:41, 18 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Ah I see you use British English so I assumed you are not US. What browser do you use? Do you have any plugins that might affect javascript? This is impacting archive providers as well, such as Wayback Machine and Ghostarchive (US-based), they also get 404. Archive.today it "works" (global IP pool) but they are unable to correctly save the PDF. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220718160000-Ifly6-20220718154100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:00, 18 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I do get a "d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net" sort of thing. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Jo-Jo_Eumerus?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Jo-Jo Eumerus">Jo-Jo Eumerus</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Jo-Jo_Eumerus?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Jo-Jo_Eumerus-20220718173300-GreenC-20220718160000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:33, 18 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> <dd> Language heuristics are always right 99pc of the time haha. I've confirmed on Edge (Windows 10) and Safari (macOS) that the Academia.edu link work. I don't have any plugins installed other than ad blockers that would affect something like this. The specific link that got generated for me with Rafferty was <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/51344857/Iris-_Fall_of_the_Roman_Republic-with-cover-page-v2.pdf">https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/51344857/Iris-_Fall_of_the_Roman_Republic-with-cover-page-v2.pdf</a>. There were then a pile of GET parameters that I've excerpted – they change every time anyway – but are necessary to get the file served properly. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Ifly6?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Ifly6">Ifly6</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Ifly6?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Ifly6">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Ifly6-20220718192400-GreenC-20220718160000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:24, 18 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Jo-Jo_Eumerus?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Jo-Jo Eumerus">Jo-Jo Eumerus</a> do you use Edge or Safari? -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220718193800-Ifly6-20220718192400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:38, 18 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> <dd> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#academia.edu/download" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)">Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#academia.edu/download</a> .. seeing if anything comes up here. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220718195200-Ifly6-20220718192400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:52, 18 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Ifly6?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Ifly6">Ifly6</a> in the above thread someone suggested perhaps you had signed up for account on academia.edu at some point? Or some old cookies that are giving permission. One way to test is try to access from a private window. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220718204600-GreenC-20220718195200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:46, 18 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Yea, that's probably it. I opened it in a private window and got the 404. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Ifly6?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Ifly6">Ifly6</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Ifly6?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Ifly6">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Ifly6-20220718205700-GreenC-20220718204600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:57, 18 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Same for me (Firefox) <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Jo-Jo_Eumerus?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Jo-Jo Eumerus">Jo-Jo Eumerus</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Jo-Jo_Eumerus?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Jo-Jo_Eumerus-20220718211200-Ifly6-20220718205700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:12, 18 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> <dd> Cool, glad it is figured out what is causing it. My thinking is to replace the academia.edu links with a Wayback version of the cloudfront URL so it's accessible for everyone. Or second option is to use <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url-access=registration</code> but that 404 page is confusing and will result in bots marking it dead. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220718213000-Ifly6-20220718205700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:30, 18 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl></li> </ul> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Jo-Jo_Eumerus?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Jo-Jo Eumerus">User:Jo-Jo Eumerus</a>|<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Ifly6?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Ifly6">User:Ifly6</a>|<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Biogeographist?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Biogeographist">User:Biogeographist</a>: Would like to propose this solution: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1098978075/1099315632?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1098978075/1099315632">Special:Diff/1098978075/1099315632</a>. It's only for academia.edu/download links, which are about 1,000 on enwiki. <ul> <li>academia.edu returns a 404 when a user is not registered and logged in, which is most users. It does not say "log in to access paper", rather a misleading 404 dead link page. This causes problems: <ul> <li>Archive bots will determine the links are dead (404) and mark with a <code>{{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Dead_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Dead link">dead link</a>}}</code>.</li> <li>Users will be confused thinking the link is dead and not behind a registration wall.</li> <li>Should the link ever actually die for real, there would be no archive available since the Wayback Machine sees only a dead 404 page - the Wayback machine is not an academia.edu registered user.</li> </ul></li> <li>While possible to use <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url-access=registration</code> this does not solve the misleading 404 problems.</li> <li>The cloudfront link is an AWS container with an &Expires self-destruct mechanism. It's where the paper is actually located (not on academia.edu which redirects to cloudfront).</li> <li>The proposal is to determine the active cloudfront link via bot magic, immediately create a Wayback Machine save of the cloudfront URL, and change the citation to the Wayback-cloudfront link. eg. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1098978075/1099315632?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1098978075/1099315632">Special:Diff/1098978075/1099315632</a></li> </ul> This is what I can do somewhat easily right away. There are limits due to bot design and coding efforts what can be done. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220720041500-Flagging_non-dead_link_as_dead" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:15, 20 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-15" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Hmm. It seems a bit complex and I wonder if people will be deleting the "expires" part of the link. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Jo-Jo_Eumerus?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Jo-Jo Eumerus">Jo-Jo Eumerus</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Jo-Jo_Eumerus?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Jo-Jo_Eumerus-20220720102200-GreenC-20220720041500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:22, 20 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-16" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> It's a complex situation. If they delete the &Expires the URL will break (404). It will break anyway, due to the Expires, that is why the archive URL version is made the primary. The archive URL is accessible to everyone - academia.edu account not required. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220720153000-Jo-Jo_Eumerus-20220720102200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:30, 20 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-17" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> Unfortunately there is something preventing cloudfront pages from being saved at Wayback. Not all pages, but most. So we have a bad situation with academia.edu/download links - ideally they should be converted to a non /download/ links - but can't be done by bot requires manual searching. The /download/ links are probably originating from Google Scholar, copy-pasting. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220723155600-Flagging_non-dead_link_as_dead" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:56, 23 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-18" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(2)">  <h2 id="Backlinks_report" data-mw-thread-id="h-Backlinks_report-20220725111700">Backlinks report</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=2&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Backlinks report" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-209" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20220728155200-Certes-20220728100300">2 years ago</a>14 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-2 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-2"> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes/Backlinks/Report?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes/Backlinks/Report">User:Certes/Backlinks/Report</a> seems to have stopped, but <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GoingBatty/Backlinks/Report?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GoingBatty/Backlinks/Report">User:GoingBatty/Backlinks/Report</a> is running normally. I've not added any new <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes/Backlinks?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes/Backlinks">backlinks</a> recently. Can you see anything else that I may have broken? <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Certes-20220725111700-Backlinks_report" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:17, 25 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-19" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> It aborted for unknown reasons. I increased the memory allocation by 10x in case that is the problem. The data may be messed up from the abort. I've restarted the process and will see what happens over the next hour or so if it can recover. Worse case will just delete all the data and it will rebuild from scratch, but that will result in a missed day. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220725153400-Certes-20220725111700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 25 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-20" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Thanks. Let me know if I'm checking too many targets or if some produce exceptionally big reports, and I'll remove the less productive ones. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Certes-20220725154500-GreenC-20220725153400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:45, 25 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-21" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> It was crashing at "m" then after increasing memory made it to "v". Odd bc it should not run out of memory, and there are no error messages system or program to suggest why it's silently halting so it might be something different. I added debug statements, takes a while to replicate an hour or more. Thanks for holding. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220726042600-Certes-20220725154500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:26, 26 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-22" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Odd: "m" and "v" are early in <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes/Backlinks?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes/Backlinks">my list</a>, and neither they nor anything earlier have many incoming links. If it's taking an hour then we may need to remove the entries with lowest benefit per second. A few entries have never triggered a fix and could probably be removed, but I've already removed the resource-heavy ones. Maybe I need to rate them all by fixes done per 1000 incoming links or similar and chop those scoring lowest. "v" is an oddity because it can indicate that the editor failed to press <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1249182868">.mw-parser-output .keyboard-key{border:1px solid #aaa;border-radius:0.2em;box-shadow:0.1em 0.1em 0.2em rgba(0,0,0,0.1);background-color:var(--background-color-neutral-subtle,#f8f9fa);background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom,var(--background-color-neutral,#eaecf0),var(--background-color-neutral-subtle,#f8f9fa),var(--background-color-neutral,#eaecf0));color:var(--color-base,#202122);padding:0.1em 0.3em;font-family:inherit;font-size:0.85em}</style><kbd class="keyboard-key nowrap">Ctrl</kbd> when pasting: easy to spot, but hard to fix as you need to guess what was in their clipboard. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Certes-20220726123900-GreenC-20220726042600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:39, 26 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-23" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> The memory problem appears to be cumulative if I run m or v in isolation they do fine but when running the whole bunch there is a massive spike in memory claim that occurs at the same spot around v or x, but also others don't release their claims so it builds up. It could be related to the Sun Grid Engine caching for performance reasons. I've checked the program for errant global vars and it's fine there is nothing holding onto data. I might try separating the backlinks retrieval portion to a different program so it exits between each item clearing any memory claims. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220726164800-Certes-20220726123900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:48, 26 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-24" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I think it is fixed. A combination of repetitive backlinks reported by the API and inefficiencies in the program magnifying those repetitions. It should never use more than about 25MB of ram, but with "V" (and "v") it was as high as 1 gigabyte. Why V? I suspect it's due to <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:V?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">WP:V</a> which is so commonly linked outside mainspace. V exposed the problem, but it was occurring at a smaller scale with everything else. (The API typically and erroneously reports 100s of the same backlink - I don't know why it's always done this.) "V" had 2.5 million non-unique occurrences. Add to this the program was inefficient in how it dealt with the repetitions, it added up and the Grid Engine was nope and dropped the job. Right now it's starting over rebuilding the database, it should be back to normal soon. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220727054400-GreenC-20220726164800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:44, 27 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-25" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Thanks very much. The current version looks right, considering that it's for a few hours rather than the usual 24. Is it possible to add the namespace of the link target to the query? I'm not sure how you're extracting the data but, for example, Quarry would run its SQL much faster with "and pl_namespace=0". <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Certes-20220727112100-GreenC-20220727054400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:21, 27 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-26" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Backlinks">API:Backlinks</a>. When I first made this program (not your fork of it) around April 2015, Quarry was only about 6 months old I think, anyway I wasn't aware of it, and I wanted something that would run from anywhere which left the API. Speed is not an issue when running daily, unless it takes > 24hrs. Your job completes in about 2 hours, it is exceptionally big. The API behavior of multiple results is weird but can be adjusted for. If it continues to be a problem I can look into Quarry, getting a JSON file would nice. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220727154100-Certes-20220727112100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:41, 27 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-27" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> In that case, blnamespace is what I meant, but I'm not clear what it should be set to: the several namespaces in which relevant links appear, or ns 0 to which relevant links lead. If my job is taking two hours then I should be checking fewer targets; any clues as to which entries take the most time would help with that. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Certes-20220727182700-GreenC-20220727154100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:27, 27 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-28" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Below is an 'ls' of the data files. The timestamps show how long each took to complete. The file size is misleading as the program filters out namespaces. Like "V" (and "v" they are indenitcal to the API) is not very large filesize, but took almost 25 minutes to complete. It took about 85m to finish not 120m my mistake. V/v is about 50 minutes. U/u 20 minutes. N/n 10 minutes. Those are the big three and use 95% of the time (is that right?). Probably due to <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:V?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">WP:V</a>, <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:U?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:U">WP:U</a> and <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:N?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">WP:N</a>. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220727192800-Certes-20220727182700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:28, 27 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-29" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Thanks. I'll take V/v, U/u and N/n out then. U and N rarely get a hit. V gets more but I'm less confident about fixing them as most of them require me to guess what article the editor was thinking of. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Certes-20220727205700-GreenC-20220727192800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:57, 27 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-30" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> <dd> All working as normal today, and an hour faster than previously. Thanks again for your help. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Certes-20220728100300-GreenC-20220727192800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:03, 28 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-31" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Yes, finished in 25 minutes. No single one took very long (or much memory!). You are welcome and thanks for reporting it because it uncovered a problem in the program that only became evident at scale. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220728155200-Certes-20220728100300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:52, 28 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-32" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC/WaybackMedic_2.5?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC/WaybackMedic 2.5">WaybackMedic 2.5</a> edits in June where it "rescued" an archive link in the <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url=</code> parameter of {{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Webarchive?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Webarchive">Webarchive</a>}}, replacing it with a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://web.archive.org/web/20100105013709/http://canoeicf.com/site/canoeint/if/downloads/result/Pages%25201-41%2520from%2520Medal%2520Winners%2520ICF%2520updated%25202007-2.pdf?MenuID%3DResults%252F1107%252F0%252CMedal%255Fwinners%255Fsince%255F1936%252F1510%252F0">this link</a> which was already in the <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url2=</code> parameter. Two examples of this are <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DGrant_Bramwell%26diff%3D1093238567%26oldid%3D957849833">Grant Bramwell: revised 1 June 2022</a> and <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DList_of_ICF_Canoe_Sprint_World_Championships_medalists_in_men%2527s_kayak%26diff%3D1095093520%26oldid%3D1093813352">List of ICF Canoe Sprint World Championships medalists in men's kayak: revised 26 June 2022</a>. Can the bot remove the duplicate url2/date2/title2 parameters and renumber any subsequent url3/date3/title3, etc.? I've fixed over 500 of these edits myself, but there are still <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search%3Dinsource%253A%252F%255C%257B%255C%257BWebarchive%2B*%255C%257Curl%253Dhttps%253A%255C%252F%255C%252Fweb.archive.org%255C%252Fweb%255C%252F20100105013709%255C%252Fhttp%253A%255C%252F%255C%252Fcanoeicf.com%255C%252Fsite%255C%252Fcanoeint%255C%252Fif%255C%252Fdownloads%255C%252Fresult%255C%252FPages%2525201-41%252520from%252520Medal%252520Winners%252520ICF%252520updated%2525202007-2.pdf%255C%253FMenuID%253DResults%25252F1107%25252F0%25252CMedal%25255Fwinners%25255Fsince%25255F1936%25252F1510%25252F0%252F%2Binsource%253A%252F%255C%257Curl2%253Dhttps%253A%255C%252F%255C%252Fweb.archive.org%255C%252Fweb%255C%252F20100105013709%255C%252Fhttp%253A%255C%252F%255C%252Fcanoeicf.com%255C%252Fsite%255C%252Fcanoeint%255C%252Fif%255C%252Fdownloads%255C%252Fresult%255C%252FPages%2525201-41%252520from%252520Medal%252520Winners%252520ICF%252520updated%2525202007-2.pdf%255C%253FMenuID%253DResults%25252F1107%25252F0%25252CMedal%25255Fwinners%25255Fsince%25255F1936%25252F1510%25252F0%252F%26title%3DSpecial%253ASearch%26go%3DGo%26ns0%3D1">over 700 remaining to be fixed</a>. Thanks. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Zyxw?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Zyxw">Zyxw</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Zyxw?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Zyxw">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Zyxw-20220809035400-Bot_updating_Webarchive_template_is_adding_%2522url%2522_same_as_existing_%2522url2%2522" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:54, 9 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-33" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> That was part of the deprecation of WebCite which is a dead archive provider. It didn't account for dups. It's complicated here because even though <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url=</code> and <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url2=</code> are the same, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|title=</code> and <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|title2=</code> are different - which do you choose. I think the best course is the keep <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url=</code> set and remove the <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url2=</code> set, at least based on two examples. In terms of renumbering that is not required as the webarchive template is designed to allow any numbers up to 10, so long as there is a <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url=</code> .. aka <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url1=</code> .. is the only requirement. I'll start looking at this today. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220809153500-Zyxw-20220809035400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:35, 9 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-34" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> <dl> <dd> <dl> <dd> @<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">GreenC</a>: I agree with keeping the <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url=</code> set and removing the <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url2=</code> set when there is a duplicate URL and that is what I did for the 500+ already fixed. I also thought {{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Webarchive?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Webarchive">Webarchive</a>}} might automatically handle the missing <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url2=</code> set and display the <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url3=</code> set, but as per these tests that is not the case: </dd> <dd> archive with url/date/title, url2/date2/title2, and url3/date3/title3 <ul> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://web.archive.org/web/20100105013709/http://canoeicf.com/site/canoeint/if/downloads/result/Pages%25201-41%2520from%2520Medal%2520Winners%2520ICF%2520updated%25202007-2.pdf?MenuID%3DResults%252F1107%252F0%252CMedal%255Fwinners%255Fsince%255F1936%252F1510%252F0">Medal Winners – Olympic Games and World Championships (1936–2007) – Part 1: flatwater (now sprint). CanoeICF.com. International Canoe Federation.</a> at the <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wayback_Machine?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wayback Machine">Wayback Machine</a> (archived 5 January 2010). Additional archives: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://web.archive.org/web/20100105013709/http://canoeicf.com/site/canoeint/if/downloads/result/Pages%25201-41%2520from%2520Medal%2520Winners%2520ICF%2520updated%25202007-2.pdf?MenuID%3DResults%252F1107%252F0%252CMedal%255Fwinners%255Fsince%255F1936%252F1510%252F0">Wayback Machine</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://web.archive.org/web/20160113142416/http://www.bcu.org.uk/files/Pages%25201-41%2520from%2520Medal%2520Winners%2520ICF%2520updated%25202007-2.pdf">BCU.org.uk</a>.</li> </ul> </dd> <dd> url2/date2/title2 removed with url3/date3/title3 remaining <ul> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://web.archive.org/web/20100105013709/http://canoeicf.com/site/canoeint/if/downloads/result/Pages%25201-41%2520from%2520Medal%2520Winners%2520ICF%2520updated%25202007-2.pdf?MenuID%3DResults%252F1107%252F0%252CMedal%255Fwinners%255Fsince%255F1936%252F1510%252F0">Medal Winners – Olympic Games and World Championships (1936–2007) – Part 1: flatwater (now sprint). CanoeICF.com. International Canoe Federation.</a> at the <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wayback_Machine?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wayback Machine">Wayback Machine</a> (archived 5 January 2010). Additional archives: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://web.archive.org/web/20160113142416/http://www.bcu.org.uk/files/Pages%25201-41%2520from%2520Medal%2520Winners%2520ICF%2520updated%25202007-2.pdf">BCU.org.uk</a>.</li> </ul> </dd> <dd> url2/date2/title2 removed and url3/date3/title3 renumbered <ul> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://web.archive.org/web/20100105013709/http://canoeicf.com/site/canoeint/if/downloads/result/Pages%25201-41%2520from%2520Medal%2520Winners%2520ICF%2520updated%25202007-2.pdf?MenuID%3DResults%252F1107%252F0%252CMedal%255Fwinners%255Fsince%255F1936%252F1510%252F0">Medal Winners – Olympic Games and World Championships (1936–2007) – Part 1: flatwater (now sprint). CanoeICF.com. International Canoe Federation.</a> at the <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wayback_Machine?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wayback Machine">Wayback Machine</a> (archived 5 January 2010). Additional archives: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://web.archive.org/web/20160113142416/http://www.bcu.org.uk/files/Pages%25201-41%2520from%2520Medal%2520Winners%2520ICF%2520updated%25202007-2.pdf">BCU.org.uk</a>.</li> </ul> </dd> <dd> -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Zyxw?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Zyxw">Zyxw</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Zyxw?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Zyxw">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Zyxw-20220809161500-GreenC-20220809153500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 9 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-35" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Reported at <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template_talk:Webarchive?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Gaps_in_argument_sequence" title="Template talk:Webarchive">Template_talk:Webarchive#Gaps_in_argument_sequence</a>. I wrote the template originally but Trappist did a major rewrite so I'm not sure if that is my bug or his. I processed the first 500 articles and there are only 3 with a <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url3=</code> suggesting 40 or 50 at most in the whole bunch. Anyway it won't be difficult to renumber them. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220809162600-Zyxw-20220809161500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 9 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-36" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Ah miscalculated it's 733 not 7,330 :) It's done see anything more let me know. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220809170800-GreenC-20220809162600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:08, 9 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-37" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> <dd> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1068391951/1103443944?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1068391951/1103443944">Fixed</a> the webarchive bug. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a 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data-mw-thread-id="h-Bad_webcitation_link_replacement-20220826114800">Bad webcitation link replacement</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=4&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Bad webcitation link replacement" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-211" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20220827163400-GreenC-20220827161600">2 years ago</a>5 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-4 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-4"> So I've just found out that GreenC bot made <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DEmpty_Saddles_(in_the_Old_Corral)%26diff%3D1095013933%26oldid%3D993148078">edits like this</a>, replacing a dead archive link with <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://web.archive.org/web/20140813072851/http://americancowboy.com/culture/top-100-western-songs">another dead archive link</a>. Would it be possible to replace that archive link with, say, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://web.archive.org/web/20101019002745/http://americancowboy.com/culture/top-100-western-songs">this one</a> that actually works? Thanks very much! <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Graham87?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Graham87">Graham</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Graham87?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Graham87">87</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Graham87-20220826114800-Bad_webcitation_link_replacement" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:48, 26 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-39" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Bots are not 100% perfect. It relies on the Wayback API to determine live links and it is not perfect so for those errors it depends on human intervention to correct. The alternative is not to use bots at all , in which case most links never get fixed at all due to the scale, it's back-end boring work people want bots to do, but there is not guarantee bots, or for that matter people, will not make mistakes. The question is the scale of mistakes. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220826150800-Graham87-20220826114800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:08, 26 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-40" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Yeah fair enough, soft 404's and all. On re-reading my message I spectacularly failed at phrasing it clearly ... there are <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DSpecial:LinkSearch/https://web.archive.org/web/20140813072851/http://americancowboy.com/culture/top-100-western-songs%26limit%3D500%26offset%3D0%26target%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fweb.archive.org%252Fweb%252F20140813072851%252Fhttp%253A%252F%252Famericancowboy.com%252Fculture%252Ftop-100-western-songs">nearly a hundred more such links</a>; could you instruct the bot to replace them with a working archive (i.e. the one linked above)? I thought that would be the easiest way to fix this problem. I tried changing the archive link on InternetArchiveBot's side and asking it to fix the affected articles, but that didn't do what I intended. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Graham87?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Graham87">Graham</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Graham87?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Graham87">87</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Graham87-20220827133400-GreenC-20220826150800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:34, 27 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-41" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> OK it's done. Yeah there's no way to automate replace of one archive with another via IABot. That would be a good feature though when finding soft-404s. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220827161600-Graham87-20220827133400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:16, 27 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-42" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Opened Phab <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T316438" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T316438">T316438</a> .. no idea if or when. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220827163400-GreenC-20220827161600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:34, 27 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-43" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(5)">  <h2 id="Avoid_editing_inside_HTML_comments" data-mw-thread-id="h-Avoid_editing_inside_HTML_comments-20220902034900">Avoid editing inside HTML comments</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=5&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Avoid editing inside HTML comments" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-212" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20220902053900-Wotheina-20220902034900">2 years ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-5 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-5"> GreenC bot now edits inside HTML comments eg. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1107954452?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1107954452">Special:Diff/1107954452</a>, but I suggest it not to. Although the edit in this example happened to be harmless (even useful), in general, comments could be used for a wide range of reasons, so there is a higher risk that automatic edits could break their intentions. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Wotheina?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Wotheina">Wotheina</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Wotheina?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Wotheina">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Wotheina-20220902034900-Avoid_editing_inside_HTML_comments" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:49, 2 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-44" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> That's true but there is a positive trade-off so for a couple reasons I am OK fixing certain (not all) link rot in comments, as I have been doing for 7 years. If someone wants to preserve a block of immutable wikitext they should use the talk page, user page or offline - otherwise anyone can edit the comment or delete it entirely. Comments can be strangely formatted, I take measures, auto and manual, to check commented text before posting a live diff. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220902053900-Wotheina-20220902034900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:39, 2 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-45" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(6)">  <h2 id="Stopping_backlinks_report_during_wikibreak" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stopping_backlinks_report_during_wikibreak-20220905112500">Stopping backlinks report during wikibreak</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=6&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Stopping backlinks report during wikibreak" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-213" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20220906051400-Certes-20220905112500">2 years ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-6 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-6"> Hello, and thanks again for the useful Backlinks reports. I'm currently taking a Wikibreak and have attempted to exclude my list from the bot's tasks <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DUser:Certes/stopbutton%26diff%3Dprev%26oldid%3D1108531344">thus</a> but it <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DUser:Certes/Backlinks/Report%26diff%3Dprev%26oldid%3D1108603582">still ran</a> today. It's not a problem for me if the reports continue but, if you'd like to save some resources by stopping it properly, please go ahead. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Certes-20220905112500-Stopping_backlinks_report_during_wikibreak" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:25, 5 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-46" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Fixed, it was seeing <code>Action=RUN</code> in the "#" comment. First time this code has been tested :) Have a good break. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20220906051400-Certes-20220905112500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:14, 6 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-47" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(7)">  <h2 id="Please_Update_the_monthly_list_of_Top_10000_wikipedia_users_by_Article_Count" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_Update_the_monthly_list_of_Top_10000_wikipedia_users_by_Article_Count-20221003075200">Please Update the monthly list of Top 10000 wikipedia users by Article Count</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=7&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Please Update the monthly list of Top 10000 wikipedia users by Article Count" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-214" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20221003125100-Abbasulu-20221003075200">2 years ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-7 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-7"> Please Update the monthly list of Top 10000 wikipedia users by Article Count which changes every 1st and 15th date of a month. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Abbasulu?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Abbasulu">Abbasulu</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Abbasulu?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Abbasulu">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Abbasulu-20221003075200-Please_Update_the_monthly_list_of_Top_10000_wikipedia_users_by_Article_Count" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:52, 3 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-48" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> It's still running for some reason very slowly in 3 days it only completed 19%. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20221003125100-Abbasulu-20221003075200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:51, 3 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-49" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(8)">  <h2 id="Exactly_what_purpose_did_this_edit_serve?_Edit_summary_is_misleading_at_best" data-mw-thread-id="h-Exactly_what_purpose_did_this_edit_serve?_Edit_summary_is_misleading_at_best-20221003201700">Exactly what purpose did this edit serve? Edit summary is misleading at best</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=8&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Exactly what purpose did this edit serve? Edit summary is misleading at best" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-215" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20221014042400-108.246.204.20-20221014041500">2 years ago</a>4 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-8 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-8"> <a class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DRodney_Marks%26diff%3D1095741886%26oldid%3D1091111369">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rodney_Marks&diff=1095741886&oldid=1091111369</a> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/108.246.204.20?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/108.246.204.20">108.246.204.20</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:108.246.204.20?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:108.246.204.20">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-108.246.204.20-20221003201700-Exactly_what_purpose_did_this_edit_serve?_Edit_summary_is_misleading_at_best" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:17, 3 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-50" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Don't use <code>{{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Dead_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Dead link">dead link</a>}}</code> if the citation has a working <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|archive-url=</code>. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20221003204600-108.246.204.20-20221003201700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:46, 3 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-51" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> it doesn't. "this page is not available". <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/108.246.204.20?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/108.246.204.20">108.246.204.20</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:108.246.204.20?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:108.246.204.20">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-108.246.204.20-20221014041500-GreenC-20221003204600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:15, 14 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-52" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Ah soft-404. Removed. O also updated the IABot databace. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20221014042400-108.246.204.20-20221014041500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:24, 14 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-53" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(9)">  <h2 id="A_cookie_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_cookie_for_you!-20221009110000">A cookie for you!</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=9&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: A cookie for you!" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-216" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20221009141200-Ulises12345678-20221009110000">2 years ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-9 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-9"> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Choco_chip_cookie.png?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"> <noscript> <img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Choco_chip_cookie.png/120px-Choco_chip_cookie.png" decoding="async" width="120" height="84" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="800" data-file-height="557"> </noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 120px;height: 84px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Choco_chip_cookie.png/120px-Choco_chip_cookie.png" data-width="120" data-height="84" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Choco_chip_cookie.png/180px-Choco_chip_cookie.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Choco_chip_cookie.png/240px-Choco_chip_cookie.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element"> </a></td> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Ulises12345678?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Ulises12345678">Ulises12345678</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Ulises12345678?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Ulises12345678">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Ulises12345678-20221009110000-A_cookie_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:00, 9 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-54" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <dl> <dd> Thank you. For the Cookie. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20221009141200-Ulises12345678-20221009110000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:12, 9 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-55" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(10)">  <h2 id="RSSSF" data-mw-thread-id="h-RSSSF-20230207102700">RSSSF</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=10&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: RSSSF" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-217" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20230208214500-RSSSF">1 year ago</a>5 comments3 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-10 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-10"> Why is this bot changing "website=rsssf.com" to "website=<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/RSSSF?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="RSSSF">RSSSF</a>", where there is already "publisher=<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/RSSSF?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="RSSSF">RSSSF</a>" parameter, and then in many pages you get stupid outcome like <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://i.ibb.co/26Ztmps/rsssf.png">this</a> with double RSSSF linking? <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Snowflake91?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Snowflake91">Snowflake91</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Snowflake91?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Snowflake91">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Snowflake91-20230207102700-RSSSF" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:27, 7 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-56" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Yeah it's not ideal, a work in progress. In any case the problem is there should not be both <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|work=</code> and <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|publisher=</code> use one or the other not both. And should not use a domain name, use the name of the site, is best practice on Wikipedia. The re are so many RSSSF citations, and so many problems with them, I've done a lot of work to fix them but there are still things that need more work. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20230207152200-Snowflake91-20230207102700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:22, 7 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-57" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Prefer <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|website=</code> over <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|publisher=</code>. <code>{{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Cite_web?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Cite web">cite web</a>}}</code> does not include <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|publisher=</code> in the citation's metadata. </dd> <dd> —<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Trappist_the_monk-20230207161800-GreenC-20230207152200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:18, 7 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-58" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1038698982/1138241646?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1038698982/1138241646">Special:Diff/1038698982/1138241646</a> -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20230208214400-Trappist_the_monk-20230207161800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:44, 8 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-59" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(11)">  <h2 id="WaybackMedic" data-mw-thread-id="h-WaybackMedic-20230324140400">WaybackMedic</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=11&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: WaybackMedic" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-218" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20230424134700-NmWTfs85lXusaybq-20230424071500">1 year ago</a>12 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-11 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-11"> @<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">GreenC</a>: It seems that <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:WAYBACKMEDIC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WAYBACKMEDIC">WaybackMedic 2.5</a> is running by <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC bot">GreenC bot 2</a>. However, I can't find its source code of version 2.5 in the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://github.com/greencardamom/WaybackMedic">Github repo</a>. I need to read the latest code to learn its current behavior. Have you published it yet? -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:NmWTfs85lXusaybq&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:NmWTfs85lXusaybq (page does not exist)">NmWTfs85lXusaybq</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:NmWTfs85lXusaybq?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:NmWTfs85lXusaybq">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-NmWTfs85lXusaybq-20230324140400-WaybackMedic" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:04, 24 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-61" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I can send snippets or functions if you want for anything you are interested in. The entire codebase is not currently available for public due to containing some proprietary information. It's written in Nim, and some awk utils. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20230324144400-NmWTfs85lXusaybq-20230324140400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:44, 24 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-62" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> The bot detection of businessweek.com you mentioned in <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_203?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#businessweek.com_links" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 203">Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_203#businessweek.com_links</a> may be bypassed by simply assigning an <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_agent?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User agent">user agent</a> of a web browser in the header of http requests, such as Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/60.0.3112.50 Safari/537.36. As far as I know from version 2.1, WaybackMedic may execute external commands (via execCmdEx) to determine page status and the assignment of user-agent should be easily implemented via some available parameters. By the way, as of version 2.1, I can see the validate_robots function is implemented in medicapi.nim. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:NmWTfs85lXusaybq&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:NmWTfs85lXusaybq (page does not exist)">NmWTfs85lXusaybq</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:NmWTfs85lXusaybq?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:NmWTfs85lXusaybq">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-NmWTfs85lXusaybq-20230324165500-GreenC-20230324144400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:55, 24 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-63" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Thank you for the suggestion to use a browser agent. I tried it, they appear to limit based on query rate, and it's pretty sensitive. I was able to trigger it by manually requesting 8 headers rapidly then it stopped working, sending a header with "HTTP/1.1 307 s2s_high_score" and redirect to a javascript challenge ("press and hold button"). Maybe I could slow the bot down enough between queries, it would be difficult, and extremely slow, perhaps a month or longer for 10k articles, and would need to verify every header is not 307 otherwise abort and manually clear the challenge. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20230324213600-NmWTfs85lXusaybq-20230324165500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:36, 24 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-64" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> If they limit the query rate based on ip, you can find some <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Web_proxies?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Web proxies">web proxies</a> to accelerate this procedure as your bot may behave like a <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Web_crawler?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Web crawler">web crawler</a>. After you collect and validate some free proxies, you can just apply them alternately to your bot, although their stability is not guaranteed. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:NmWTfs85lXusaybq&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:NmWTfs85lXusaybq (page does not exist)">NmWTfs85lXusaybq</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:NmWTfs85lXusaybq?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:NmWTfs85lXusaybq">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-NmWTfs85lXusaybq-20230325034700-GreenC-20230324213600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:47, 25 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-65" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I have access to a web proxy that uses home based IPs and it still didn't work. Maybe the solution is to pull every URL into a file and process them outside the bot with a simple script that waits x seconds between each header query. Then feed the results to the bot which URLs are dead. It can run for however long it wouldn't matter. Trying to do it inside the bot is too error prone too complicated and ties up the bot too long. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20230325041100-NmWTfs85lXusaybq-20230325034700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:11, 25 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-66" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> It's a good idea to run this job outside the bot. However, I'm not sure what you mean by <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">a web proxy that uses home based IPs</q>. Have you tried <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Proxy_server?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Accessing_services_anonymously" title="Proxy server">high-anonymity proxies</a>? Did you change proxy IP every time you made a new request? <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:NmWTfs85lXusaybq&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:NmWTfs85lXusaybq (page does not exist)">NmWTfs85lXusaybq</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:NmWTfs85lXusaybq?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:NmWTfs85lXusaybq">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-NmWTfs85lXusaybq-20230325044500-GreenC-20230325041100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:45, 25 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-67" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> The IPs change with every request, and the IPs are sourced to home broadband users globally, so they are not detectable by CIDR block. I don't know how they got blocked, maybe Cloudflare is on this service and recorded all of the IPs. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20230325144600-NmWTfs85lXusaybq-20230325044500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:46, 25 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-68" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Then I suppose your proxy strategy is OK. Please make sure your web proxy has high anonymity if all of your configuration works fine. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:NmWTfs85lXusaybq&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:NmWTfs85lXusaybq (page does not exist)">NmWTfs85lXusaybq</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:NmWTfs85lXusaybq?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:NmWTfs85lXusaybq">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-NmWTfs85lXusaybq-20230325152000-GreenC-20230325144600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:20, 25 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-69" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I ran this bot-block avoidance script and it took forever. What I discovered is just about every link should be archived. Either 404, soft-404 or better-off-dead. The later because the links went to content that was behind a paywall or otherwise messed up in some way - so the archived version is better in nearly every case. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20230403141700-NmWTfs85lXusaybq-20230325152000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:17, 3 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-70" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I see you mentioned some awk scripts as a workaround at <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Link_rot/URL_change_requests?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#businessweek.com" title="Wikipedia:Link rot/URL change requests">Wikipedia:Link_rot/URL_change_requests#businessweek.com</a>. However, I can't find the meta directory businessweek.00000-10000 you referred to in the Github repo of <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:InternetArchiveBot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:InternetArchiveBot">InternetArchiveBot</a> and <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:WAYBACKMEDIC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WAYBACKMEDIC">WaybackMedic</a>. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:NmWTfs85lXusaybq&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:NmWTfs85lXusaybq (page does not exist)">NmWTfs85lXusaybq</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:NmWTfs85lXusaybq?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:NmWTfs85lXusaybq">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-NmWTfs85lXusaybq-20230424071500-GreenC-20230403141700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:15, 24 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-71" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Oh that's a note to myself, if you want the awk script let me know it's nothing more than going through a list of URLs, pausing between each to avoid rate limiting, getting the headers and recording the results and if it's a bot block header notify and abort the script. It also shuffles the agent string. It seemed to learn agent strings and block based on those which could be avoided by retiring an agent and adding a new one. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20230424134700-NmWTfs85lXusaybq-20230424071500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:47, 24 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-72" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(12)">  <h2 id="Backlinks_report_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-Backlinks_report_2023-20230604121700">Backlinks report 2023</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=12&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Backlinks report 2023" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-219" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Certes-20230604215000-GreenC-20230604141700">1 year ago</a>3 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-12 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-12"> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes/Backlinks/Report?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes/Backlinks/Report">User:Certes/Backlinks/Report</a> has stopped updating. The bot is running, as <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GoingBatty/Backlinks/Report?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GoingBatty/Backlinks/Report">User:GoingBatty/Backlinks/Report</a> still updates. I've not changed the job list in <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes/Backlinks?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes/Backlinks">User:Certes/Backlinks</a> since 8 May, nor pressed the <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes/stopbutton?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes/stopbutton">stopbutton</a>. Do you know how to restart the report please? <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Certes-20230604121700-Backlinks_report_2023" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:17, 4 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-73" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> The process from June 2nd crashed for unknown reason and turned into a zombie preventing future runs. I can't kill it so I contacted Toolforge admins for help. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20230604141700-Certes-20230604121700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:17, 4 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-74" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Working again now – thanks! <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Certes-20230604215000-GreenC-20230604141700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:50, 4 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-75" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(13)">  <h2 id="Archiving_chapter_urls" data-mw-thread-id="h-Archiving_chapter_urls-20230814221400">Archiving chapter urls</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=13&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Archiving chapter urls" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-220" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20230821154500-Pi.1415926535-20230821063500">1 year ago</a>5 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-13 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-13"> This is a bit of an edge case with GreenC bot's archive repair task, so I wanted to get your opinion. In several articles where I'm citing an archived book that has separate PDFs for each chapter, I use the |archive-url= parameter for the chapter url (since that's the most important one) and have a Wayback url for the book url in the |url= field. It's not ideal, but I'm not sure how else to handle it. My brief search also found <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Help_talk:Citation_Style_1/Archive_62?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#add_chapter-archive-url" title="Help talk:Citation Style 1/Archive 62">this thread</a> where you indicated that |archive-url= was okay to use for the chapter url. However, GreenC bot switches the |archive-url= field to be the archive of the |url= field (example <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1170358971?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1170358971">here</a>). Is there a better way to format these citations? I'm not able to find any. Otherwise, is there any way I can mark the citations to be ignored by the bot? This seems like a relatively rare case; I imagine it's not worth modifying the bot to handle. Thanks, <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Pi.1415926535?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Pi.1415926535">Pi.1415926535</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Pi.1415926535?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Pi.1415926535">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Pi.1415926535-20230814221400-Archiving_chapter_urls" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:14, 14 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-76" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1170358971/1170410520?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1170358971/1170410520">Special:Diff/1170358971/1170410520</a>. Another option: <dl> <dd> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite id="CITEREFVanasse_Hangen_Brustlin,_Inc2005" class="citation book cs1">Vanasse Hangen Brustlin, Inc (August 2005). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://web.archive.org/web/20160705134151/http://greenlineextension.eot.state.ma.us/docs_beyondLechmere.html">Beyond Lechmere Northwest Corridor Study: Major Investment Study/Alternatives Analysis</a>. Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority. Archived from <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=http://greenlineextension.eot.state.ma.us/docs_beyondLechmere.html">the original</a> on July 5, 2016.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=Beyond+Lechmere+Northwest+Corridor+Study%3A+Major+Investment+Study%2FAlternatives+Analysis&rft.pub=Massachusetts+Bay+Transportation+Authority&rft.date=2005-08&rft.au=Vanasse+Hangen+Brustlin%2C+Inc&rft_id=http%3A%2F%2Fgreenlineextension.eot.state.ma.us%2Fdocs_beyondLechmere.html&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3AGreenC+bot" class="Z3988"> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://web.archive.org/web/20160705151132/http://greenlineextension.eot.state.ma.us/documents/beyondLechmere/MIS8-05-Chapter4.pdf">Chapter 4: Identification and Evaluation of Alternatives – Tier 1</a> at the <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wayback_Machine?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wayback Machine">Wayback Machine</a> (archived 2016-07-05) </dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> I like this better because it doesn't hack the cite book template arguments. The downside is the display is a little messier. Another way with some duplication: <dl> <dd> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="CITEREFVanasse_Hangen_Brustlin,_Inc2005" class="citation book cs1">Vanasse Hangen Brustlin, Inc (August 2005). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://web.archive.org/web/20160705134151/http://greenlineextension.eot.state.ma.us/docs_beyondLechmere.html">"Chapter 4: Identification and Evaluation of Alternatives – Tier 1"</a>. Beyond Lechmere Northwest Corridor Study: Major Investment Study/Alternatives Analysis. Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority. Archived from <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=http://greenlineextension.eot.state.ma.us/documents/beyondLechmere/MIS8-05-Chapter4.pdf">the original</a> (PDF) on July 5, 2016.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=bookitem&rft.atitle=Chapter+4%3A+Identification+and+Evaluation+of+Alternatives+%E2%80%93+Tier+1&rft.btitle=Beyond+Lechmere+Northwest+Corridor+Study%3A+Major+Investment+Study%2FAlternatives+Analysis&rft.pub=Massachusetts+Bay+Transportation+Authority&rft.date=2005-08&rft.au=Vanasse+Hangen+Brustlin%2C+Inc&rft_id=http%3A%2F%2Fgreenlineextension.eot.state.ma.us%2Fdocuments%2FbeyondLechmere%2FMIS8-05-Chapter4.pdf&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3AGreenC+bot" class="Z3988"> From <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://web.archive.org/web/20160705134151/http://greenlineextension.eot.state.ma.us/docs_beyondLechmere.html">Beyond Lechmere Northwest Corridor Study: Major Investment Study/Alternatives Analysis</a> at the <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wayback_Machine?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wayback Machine">Wayback Machine</a> (archived 2016-07-05) </dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> To keep the bot off the citation add <code>{{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Cbignore?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Cbignore">cbignore</a>}}</code> template after the end of the cite book but inside the ref tags. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20230815021700-Pi.1415926535-20230814221400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:17, 15 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-77" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Thanks, much appreciated. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Pi.1415926535?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Pi.1415926535">Pi.1415926535</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Pi.1415926535?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Pi.1415926535">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Pi.1415926535-20230815171500-GreenC-20230815021700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:15, 15 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-78" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> @<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">GreenC</a>: Please take a look at <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1171111146?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1171111146">Special:Diff/1171111146</a>, where the bot edited several citations already tagged with {{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Cbignore?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Cbignore">cbignore</a>}}. Thanks, <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Pi.1415926535?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Pi.1415926535">Pi.1415926535</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Pi.1415926535?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Pi.1415926535">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Pi.1415926535-20230821063500-Pi.1415926535-20230815171500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:35, 21 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-79" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I found two problems. 1) The <code>{{cbignore}}</code> should follow directly after the template it targets: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1171510462/1171514730?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1171510462/1171514730">Special:Diff/1171510462/1171514730</a> - I think the cbignore docs has this. 2) My bot has a known limitation. Within any block of text between new lines (ie. a paragraph of text), if there is more than one cbignore, the citations the cbignore follows all need to be unique. In this case the two citation are mirror copies. The bot ignored the cbignore for that reason (it has to do with disambiguate it needs to know which citation to target). So, I modified one of the citations, they are now unique: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1171514730/1171514803?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1171514730/1171514803">Special:Diff/1171514730/1171514803</a> (changed the semi-colon to colon in the publisher field for the first citation) -- a bit quirky but tested and it works now. I do recommend though using the alt suggestions above because while my bot honors cbignore most other bot's do not and eventually in the future it's probable some other tool will try to "fix" what it detects as an error (archive URL in the url field). -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20230821154500-Pi.1415926535-20230821063500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:45, 21 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-80" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(14)">  <h2 id="Incorrect_dead_flags_and_archive.today" data-mw-thread-id="h-Incorrect_dead_flags_and_archive.today-20230819110400">Incorrect dead flags and archive.today</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=14&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Incorrect dead flags and archive.today" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-221" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20240402153800-Astubudustu-20240402105500">8 months ago</a>8 comments3 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-14 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-14"> Hello <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">GreenC</a>! Your bot recently made <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DPok%25C3%25A9mon%26diff%3D1171107668">this strange edit</a> to <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Pokémon">Pokémon</a>. In it, the bot changed "archive.is" and "archive.ph" to "archive.today". I'm not sure what purpose this has. The task is not explained on <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC bot">User:GreenC bot</a>. Furthermore, the bot flagged these three sources as dead: <ul> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.theguardian.com/technology/gamesblog/2013/oct/11/pokemon-blockbuster-game-technology">https://www.theguardian.com/technology/gamesblog/2013/oct/11/pokemon-blockbuster-game-technology</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/detailPage/item?itemCode%3D1052117728">https://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/detailPage/item?itemCode=1052117728</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.nytimes.com/1997/12/20/news/big-firms-failure-rattles-japan-asian-tremors-spread.html">https://www.nytimes.com/1997/12/20/news/big-firms-failure-rattles-japan-asian-tremors-spread.html</a></li> </ul> But as you can see, the above links are not dead. So something must've gone wrong there. I've <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DPok%25C3%25A9mon%26diff%3D1171158544">remarked</a> these refs as live. Cheers, <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Manifestation?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Manifestation">Manifestation</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Manifestation?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Manifestation">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Manifestation-20230819110400-Incorrect_dead_flags_and_archive.today" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:04, 19 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-81" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Archive.today is what the owner of <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Archive.today?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Archive.today">archive.today</a> wants us to use, it's a redirector that sends traffic to other domains as they are available. The reason those three got marked dead is there was an archive URL in the <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url=</code> field and the bot moved it to the <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|archive-url=</code> field and the bot assumes if someone put an archive URL in the main <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url=</code> field it was probably a dead URL. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20230819144700-Manifestation-20230819110400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:47, 19 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-82" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> @<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">GreenC</a>: Aaah! So that's why. I wrote the text, so I take full responsibility for the <code>url=</code> / <code>archive-url=</code> mixup. As for <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Archive.today?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Archive.today">archive.today</a>: I looked at our article, and it cites <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://twitter.com/archiveis/status/1081276424781287427">this tweet</a> from 4 January '19 in which the owner states that the .is domain might stop working soon. However, the domain is still active. In fact, the '@' handle used by the account to this day is still "@archiveis". I've used archive.today many times, including this year. It always gave me either a .is or a .ph link. Cheers, <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Manifestation?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Manifestation">Manifestation</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Manifestation?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Manifestation">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Manifestation-20230819150700-GreenC-20230819144700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:07, 19 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-83" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Yeah it redirects to one of the 6 domains like .is or .ph .. but if one of those domains gets shut down by the registar, he can switch where it redirects to easily, without having to change every link on Wikipedia. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20230819152400-Manifestation-20230819150700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:24, 19 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-84" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Hmm ok. Well I guess we should honor his/her request then. For the sake of clarity, maybe the description of Job #2 / <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC/WaybackMedic_2.5?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC/WaybackMedic 2.5">WaybackMedic 2.5</a> on <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC bot">User:GreenC bot</a> could be expanded a little to include a mention of <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Archive.today?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Archive.today">archive.today</a>? archive.today is not part of the <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Internet_Archive?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Internet Archive">Internet Archive</a>, so the term "WaybackMedic" is a bit misleading. - <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Manifestation?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Manifestation">Manifestation</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Manifestation?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Manifestation">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Manifestation-20230819160300-GreenC-20230819152400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:03, 19 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-85" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Alright I updated <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC/WaybackMedic_2.5?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC/WaybackMedic 2.5">fix #21</a> which also now links to <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Help:Using_archive.today?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Archive.today_compared_to_.is,_.li,_.fo,_.ph,_.vn_and_.md" title="Help:Using archive.today">Help:Using_archive.today#Archive.today_compared_to_.is,_.li,_.fo,_.ph,_.vn_and_.md</a>. It started out as Wayback-specific then expanded to all archive providers but I kept the original name anyway. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20230819164100-Manifestation-20230819160300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 19 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-86" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> @<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">GreenC</a> Hi! I know that .today is the domain to be used, but every time i try to open a link with .today it returns me a "This site cannot be reached" type of error, and the same goes with .ph links. The only active links i get are the one with .is <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Astubudustu&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Astubudustu (page does not exist)">Astubudustu</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Astubudustu&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User talk:Astubudustu (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Astubudustu-20240402105500-GreenC-20230819164100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:55, 2 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-87" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> This is because the DNS resolver you are using is hosted on CloudFlare and that won't work (well) with archive.today domains see <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Archive.today?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Cloudflare_DNS_availability" title="Archive.today">Archive.today#Cloudflare_DNS_availability</a> -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240402153800-Astubudustu-20240402105500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:38, 2 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-88" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(15)">  <h2 id="WaybackMedic_2.5_adding_unneceesary_URLs" data-mw-thread-id="h-WaybackMedic_2.5_adding_unneceesary_URLs-20230824141600">WaybackMedic 2.5 adding unneceesary URLs</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=15&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: WaybackMedic 2.5 adding unneceesary URLs" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-222" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Favre1fan93-20230824152600-GreenC-20230824150000">1 year ago</a>3 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-15 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-15"> I saw the bot's task run on <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Guardians_of_the_Galaxy_(film)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Guardians of the Galaxy (film)">Guardians of the Galaxy (film)</a> <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DGuardians_of_the_Galaxy_%2528film%2529%26diff%3D1172020348%26oldid%3D1171941348">here</a> and it made edits to three references that used {{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Cite_Metacritic?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Cite Metacritic">Cite Metacritic</a>}}, {{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Cite_Box_Office_Mojo?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Cite Box Office Mojo">Cite Box Office Mojo</a>}}, and {{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Cite_The_Numbers?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Cite The Numbers">Cite The Numbers</a>}}, adding in unnecessary URLs and marking the links as dead. The citation templates construct the urls from the given parameters (as most follow a common format on those sites) and were not dead. Didn't know if this was a bot issue, or the templates themselves doing something that is flagging the citations to make the bot adjust them. I can look into the templates to see what the issues may be if that is ultimately the case (and to know what to look for for the error). - <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Favre1fan93?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Favre1fan93">Favre1fan93</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Favre1fan93?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Favre1fan93">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Favre1fan93-20230824141600-WaybackMedic_2.5_adding_unneceesary_URLs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:16, 24 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-89" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> That is a bot error. It is in 9 articles. I rolled them back (you got 2). Thanks for the report. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20230824150000-Favre1fan93-20230824141600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 24 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-90" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> No problem, thank you! - <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Favre1fan93?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Favre1fan93">Favre1fan93</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Favre1fan93?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Favre1fan93">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Favre1fan93-20230824152600-GreenC-20230824150000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:26, 24 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-91" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(16)">  <h2 id="Timestamp_mismatch" data-mw-thread-id="h-Timestamp_mismatch-20230902055700">Timestamp mismatch</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=16&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Timestamp mismatch" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-223" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20230909191200-GoingBatty-20230909182100">1 year ago</a>10 comments3 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-16 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-16"> This bot is changing the archive-url as <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DAahvaanam%26diff%3D1173401818%26oldid%3D1167493279">seen here</a>, but it is not changing the archive-date as required, creating a timestamp mismatch error, as <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DAahvaanam%26oldid%3D1173401818%23cite_note-4">seen here</a>. I just recently emptied this <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_archive-url?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Category:CS1 errors: archive-url">category</a> and now it has over 80 articles (when I wrote this) in it again. Your help would be appreciated. Thanks.<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Isaidnoway?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Isaidnoway"> Isaidnoway </a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Isaidnoway?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Isaidnoway">(talk)</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Isaidnoway-20230902055700-Timestamp_mismatch" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:57, 2 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-92" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I am aware, <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1173401818/1173405495?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1173401818/1173405495">did it in two steps</a>, because of the way this particular job was programmed, it was easier this way. You saw it in that 30-minute gap between runs-- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20230902161100-Isaidnoway-20230902055700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:11, 2 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-93" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> My bot can empty that category easily. It was 40,000 a week ago. Got it down to few hundred edge cases, which I assume you fixed manually, thank you. I'd like to fully automate it, but right now it's all integrated into <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:WAYBACKMEDIC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WAYBACKMEDIC">WP:WAYBACKMEDIC</a> which can't be fully automated, so I run it on request. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20230902161600-Timestamp_mismatch" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:16, 2 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-94" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Isaidnoway?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Isaidnoway">User:Isaidnoway</a>, I'm running a bot job to convert archive.today URLs from short-form to long-form. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1142465448/1174392541?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1142465448/1174392541">Example</a>. It is exposing old problems with date mismatches that are showing up in <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_archive-url?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Category:CS1 errors: archive-url">Category:CS1 errors: archive-url</a> -- after this bot job completes, I'll run another bot to fix the date mismatches, it will clear the tracking cat. No need to do anything manually. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20230908045700-Timestamp_mismatch" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:57, 8 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-95" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Hi GreenC! My bot is following yours today. There were several instances when your bot reformatted archive URLs like <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1174435583?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1174435583">this edit</a>, mine fixed the archive dates like my bot did in <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1174467339?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1174467339">the following edit</a>. My bot is running on <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_dates?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Category:CS1 errors: dates">Category:CS1 errors: dates</a>, and pulling the archive date from the archive URL. Any chance your bot could do it all in one edit? Thanks! <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GoingBatty-20230908182500-GreenC-20230908045700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:25, 8 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-96" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I used to be able to fix archive.today problems and date mismatches in the same process, but it was semi-automated. Fixing archive.today problems can and should be full-auto, so I separated that out to its own process that uses EventStream to monitor real-time when a new short-form link shows up, log the article name, and once a month or so fix them - all full-auto. <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://uk.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DJudas_Priest%26diff%3Dprev%26oldid%3D40360299">Across 100s of wikis</a>. The downside is this program can't fix date mismatch problems. I want to fix date mismatches automatically, and hope to do that eventually with its own process. Once I have that developed I can see about including it in the archive.today program, so it saves the extra edit, when the source of the date mismatch is archive.today short to long conversion. </dd> <dd> The tracking category will be cleared in the next few hours, it's currently generating diffs. This is a one-off event clearing out the backlog of archive.today problems which exposed a lot of problems. Going forward there will be much smaller numbers. We both currently have bots that can clear that category on request, do you know how to update the docs for the category page? -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20230908234100-GoingBatty-20230908182500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:41, 8 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-97" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Not sure which category page you're referring to, but most of the text on these category pages comes from <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Help:CS1_errors?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Help:CS1 errors">Help:CS1 errors</a>, so if you updated the help page, it would also appear on the appropriate category page. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GoingBatty-20230909031500-GreenC-20230908234100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:15, 9 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-98" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_archive-url?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Category:CS1 errors: archive-url">Category:CS1 errors: archive-url</a>. Do you want me to include your bot in the doc as available to clear the cat on-request? I'm going to mention WaybackMedic is available, but only if there are more than 500 entries. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20230909142500-GoingBatty-20230909031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:25, 9 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-99" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I don't have a bot to clear <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_archive-url?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Category:CS1 errors: archive-url">Category:CS1 errors: archive-url</a>. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GoingBatty-20230909182100-GreenC-20230909142500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:21, 9 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Oh I see I misinterpreted what you said above I thought it was fixing mismatched dates but it was actually fixing an incomplete date. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20230909191200-GoingBatty-20230909182100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:12, 9 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-101" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(17)">  <h2 id="Economy_of_Zimbabwean" data-mw-thread-id="h-Economy_of_Zimbabwean-20230925211300">Economy of Zimbabwean</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=17&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Economy of Zimbabwean" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-224" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GoingBatty-20230929192000-Mindthem-20230925211300">1 year ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-17 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-17"> I need some help <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Mindthem?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Mindthem">Mindthem</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Mindthem?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Mindthem">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Mindthem-20230925211300-Economy_of_Zimbabwean" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:13, 25 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-102" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> @<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Mindthem?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Mindthem">Mindthem</a>: How would you like the bot to help with the <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Economy_of_Zimbabwe?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Economy of Zimbabwe">Economy of Zimbabwe</a> article? <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GoingBatty-20230929192000-Mindthem-20230925211300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 29 September 2023 (UTC)</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page stalker</a>)<span id="ooui-php-103" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(18)">  <h2 id="Backlinks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Backlinks-20230929192100">Backlinks</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=18&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Backlinks" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-225" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GoingBatty-20230930024900-GreenC-20230929193700">1 year ago</a>3 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-18 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-18"> Hi there! I see your bot delivered a new Backlinks report for Certes, but I didn't receive an update today. Could you please give the bot a nudge? Thanks! <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GoingBatty-20230929192100-Backlinks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:21, 29 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-104" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I saw some messages this morning Toolforge was down due to NFS, likely your run didn't complete before the outage. I see it aborted around 09:32GMT and Certes finished at 09:28 .. with minutes to spare. I'll run yours again now. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20230929193700-GoingBatty-20230929192100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:37, 29 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-105" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Report received - thank you! <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GoingBatty-20230930024900-GreenC-20230929193700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:49, 30 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-106" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(19)">  <h2 id="Bot_put_italics_in_strange_places" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bot_put_italics_in_strange_places-20231019182600">Bot put italics in strange places</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=19&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Bot put italics in strange places" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-226" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Jonesey95-20231019185400-GreenC-20231019183500">1 year ago</a>3 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-19 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-19"> I don't know what <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DCounsel%2527s_Opinion%26diff%3D1180484599%26oldid%3D1108222641">happened here</a>, but the bot appears to have put italics in place where they didn't belong, and then missed putting them in <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DCounsel%2527s_Opinion%26diff%3D1180927666%26oldid%3D1180484599">where they did belong</a>. Given that the bot had to edit three times, I imagine this bot run was stressful for you. If this code is still active, it might need yet another debugging. – <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Jonesey95?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Jonesey95-20231019182600-Bot_put_italics_in_strange_places" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:26, 19 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-107" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Yeah this was a pain, every time I thought it was done, some new issue came up. And getting those ticks right, in the right place, after the fact, wasn't easy. Anyway this task is done for me (1,200 articles deletion of <code>{{<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Template:BFI&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="Template:BFI (page does not exist)">BFI</a>}}</code>). If you see any problems they need manual adjustment. I don't think the number of problems is very large from spot checking. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20231019183500-Jonesey95-20231019182600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:35, 19 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-108" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I think you are correct, based on my perusal of the list of Linter errors. – <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Jonesey95?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Jonesey95-20231019185400-GreenC-20231019183500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:54, 19 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-109" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(20)">  <h2 id="Flagging_non-dead_link_as_dead_(2)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Flagging_non-dead_link_as_dead_(2)-20231124050500">Flagging non-dead link as dead (2)</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=20&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Flagging non-dead link as dead (2)" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-227" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Certes-20231208183400-Wotheina-20231208172400">11 months ago</a>7 comments3 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-20 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-20"> Hello. Why did GreenC bot rewrite url-status=live to url-status=dead in <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1186567077?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1186567077">Special:Diff/1186567077</a> for a live URL? The URL <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/101101-ibex-goats-dam-italy-bighorn-sheep-wyoming-science">[1]</a> is alive, at least from Japan as of 2023-11-24 04:50 UTC (checked with Firefox and Chrome on Windows 10). <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Wotheina?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Wotheina">Wotheina</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Wotheina?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Wotheina">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Wotheina-20231124050500-Flagging_non-dead_link_as_dead_(2)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:05, 24 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-110" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> It's freemimum content. Open an incognito window and see if it gives a different result. I tried to archive premium content pages for NatGeo because they use a freemium wall. View page source and search on "freemiumContentGatingEnabled". -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20231124054200-Wotheina-20231124050500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:42, 24 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-111" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I see. I agree on switching from paywalls to archives, but for such unintuitive edits please write the intention somewhere, as in edit summary or embedded comment, or at least in <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC/WaybackMedic_2.5?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC/WaybackMedic 2.5">User:GreenC/WaybackMedic 2.5</a>. I think url-access= is the best way, but I guess you are not using that because there is no option "url-access=freemium" yet. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Wotheina?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Wotheina">Wotheina</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Wotheina?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Wotheina">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Wotheina-20231124064600-GreenC-20231124054200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:46, 24 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-112" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url-access=freemium</code> is a great idea. Until it appears, I think <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url-access=live</code> is less bad, or for a bonus point <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url-access=live</code> which can be converted in bulk later. I can see the goats too, but I block a lot of third-party scripts which might hide them in standard browsing. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Certes-20231208162500-Wotheina-20231124064600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-113" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Regarding "<code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url-access=live</code> is less bad", did you mean "<code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url-status=live</code> is less bad"? <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Wotheina?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Wotheina">Wotheina</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Wotheina?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Wotheina">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Wotheina-20231208172400-Certes-20231208162500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:24, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-114" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Yes, sorry, I was confusing the two parameters. <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url-access=live</code> seems more accurate than <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url-access=dead</code> here. The least bad value for status might be <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url-status=limited</code>. I can't find a definition of limited to determine whether freemium falls within its scope. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Certes-20231208183400-Wotheina-20231208172400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:34, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-115" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> When I did NatGeo, I didn't have the ability to add archive URLs with <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url-status=live</code> so unfortunately they were all set to dead. I have since added this ability after it was requested at <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Link_rot/URL_change_requests?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#vh1.com" title="Wikipedia:Link rot/URL change requests">Wikipedia:Link_rot/URL_change_requests#vh1.com</a> by <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Alexis_Jazz?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Alexis Jazz">User:Alexis Jazz</a>. I'm not sure about going back and resetting from dead to live the NatGeo links that are freemium, that would probably require some special one-off code and a lot of time to recheck all the links. But it's the kind of thing anyone could probably do pretty easily, if you have code to parse and edit CS1 templates. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20231208173400-Certes-20231208162500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:34, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-116" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(21)">  <h2 id="Backlinks_timing" data-mw-thread-id="h-Backlinks_timing-20231208152200">Backlinks timing</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=21&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Backlinks timing" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-228" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Certes-20231213163300-GreenC-20231213154300">11 months ago</a>23 comments3 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-21 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-21"> Hi there! I noticed that the Backlinks report hasn't run yet today for <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> or me. Looking at the bot's contributions, I see the report is running later each day this week. Could you please check the bots to see what's going on? Thank you! <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GoingBatty-20231208152200-Backlinks_timing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:22, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-117" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I started monitoring <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Buenos_Aires?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Buenos Aires">Buenos Aires</a> as an experiment, not because its new links are likely to be wrong but because socks of a certain puppetmaster love linking to it. I've just removed it from my list, in case this widely-linked page is causing problems. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Certes-20231208161800-GoingBatty-20231208152200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:18, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-118" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> They are forks of the same script, they run on different cron jobs and directories, thus not be possible to effect each other. If both are not working I dunno I'll check. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20231208174000-Certes-20231208161800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:40, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-119" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> & <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">Certes</a>, I found a bug that only shows up when running from cron. It wasn't apparent when the script was on Toolforge because there you signify the working directory with <code>-wd=</code> with the jsub command which masked the problem. The effect of the bug was to create duplicate entries in the list at /Backlinks which is why it kept taking longer each run. For example GoingBatty had 7 instances of "hamlet" (from the scripts perspective), one for the original and 6 for each day the script ran. So I think the best solution is wipe out the data files again and start over, the data files look kind of weird anyway. The usual, you'll see the message about new entries, then the next one should be good. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20231208182000-Backlinks_timing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:20, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-120" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> On December 8, the bot started over and published a report, but didn't publish a report for December 9. Could you please check it again? Thanks! <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GoingBatty-20231210043400-GreenC-20231208182000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:34, 10 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-121" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a>, I don't know what happened. Nevertheless, it is working now. It looks system-level. Cron logs show the process ran, but it didn't. No apparent reason, and I can't replicate. Weird. Let me know if it doesn't run again, I enabled verbose logging. Also during testing I moved the job time to around 5:30 GMT .. or do you want the previous 8:30? Or some other time? -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20231210060100-Backlinks_timing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:01, 10 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-122" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Thank you! I'd prefer the previous 8:30, as I'm likely to see the 5:30 job right before I should be going to sleep, and then be tempted to stay up too late to address them immediately. Thanks! <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GoingBatty-20231210070400-GreenC-20231210060100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:04, 10 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-123" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">User:Certes</a> during testing your most recent report lost some data, seen below. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20231210060100-Backlinks_timing-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:01, 10 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-124" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless 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class="wikitable"> <caption> New backlinks for 2023-12-10 </caption> <tbody> <tr> <th>Target</th> <th>Linker</th> <th>History</th> </tr> <tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: top;"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/0?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="0">0</a></td> <td><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Vital_article_link/testcases?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Vital article link/testcases">Template:Vital article link/testcases</a></td> <td><a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DTemplate%253AVital%2520article%2520link%252Ftestcases%26action%3Dhistory">history</a></td> </tr> <tr> <td><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/List_of_Mexican_inventions_and_discoveries?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="List of Mexican inventions and discoveries">List of Mexican inventions and discoveries</a></td> <td><a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DList%2520of%2520Mexican%2520inventions%2520and%2520discoveries%26action%3Dhistory">history</a></td> </tr> <tr> <td rowspan="1" style="vertical-align: top;"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/10?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="10">10</a></td> <td><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Vital_article_link/testcases?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Template:Vital article link/testcases">Template:Vital article link/testcases</a></td> <td><a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DTemplate%253AVital%2520article%2520link%252Ftestcases%26action%3Dhistory">history</a></td> </tr> <tr> <td rowspan="6" style="vertical-align: top;"><a 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href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Arsenal?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Arsenal">Arsenal</a></td> <td><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Citadel_of_Parma?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Citadel of Parma">Citadel of Parma</a></td> <td><a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DCitadel%2520of%2520Parma%26action%3Dhistory">history</a></td> </tr> </tbody> </table></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </div> <dl> <dd> Thanks; I'll take a look at those. I've a slight preference for 0830 over 0530, as I tend to look at the entries about 1000-1200 UTC and the fresher the better. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Certes-20231210160700-Backlinks_timing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:07, 10 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-125" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> It didn't run again. The logging helped. I'm narrowing in on the problem and made some changes. We'll see what happens next run. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20231211211800-Backlinks_timing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:18, 11 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-126" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> At some point when this issue is resolved, are you willing to open Backlinks to other users? For example, see <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Notification_for_Links_to_Pages_by_Other_Users" title="Wikipedia:Help desk">Wikipedia:Help desk#Notification for Links to Pages by Other Users</a>. Thanks! <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GoingBatty-20231212041800-Backlinks_timing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:18, 12 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-127" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> So, it does appear my IP is being rate limited by WMF. I moved all my tools off-site and it's generating a lot of traffic. The solution is to add a retry loop with pauses. Will try that next. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20231212144200-Backlinks_timing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:42, 12 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-128" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Would moving the tools on-site be a solution? I know they just made that a whole lot more difficult by deprecating GridEngine. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Certes-20231212144900-GreenC-20231212144200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:49, 12 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-129" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> That will take time because I think it will require building a custom kerbenos image which is a learning curve. I have a ticket open asking them about this but no reply yet. I should have been using a retry loop anyway so this will help either way, I have a function, but was apparently lazy and didn't call it. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20231212152600-Certes-20231212144900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:26, 12 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-130" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> A lot of people will be climbing the same learning curve. It would be nice if we had a page for giving each other a leg up. Sadly (or perhaps gratefully), I've never had to use Kubernetes and so can't be of much assistance. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Certes-20231212161700-GreenC-20231212152600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:17, 12 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-131" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I hope to learn the system eventually, probably good thing to know. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20231212180200-Certes-20231212161700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:02, 12 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-132" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> Ran both manually with the new code. It will keep requesting when it gets a 429 ("Too many requests"). It tries 20 times with a 2 second delay. I have seen it make up to 5 requests, but it will depend on WMF server load. The jobs will run on the regular morning schedule tomorrow. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20231212180200-Backlinks_timing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:02, 12 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-133" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> If it's not too much work, escalating the delay might be good for both the program and the server, e.g. if the nth try fails, wait n seconds. (Exponential is recommended but seems extreme.) <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Certes-20231212181500-GreenC-20231212180200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:15, 12 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-134" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> There are too many tool making constant requests it almost doesn't matter, they are going to saturate regardless. I'm concerned because if slowed down too much the work never gets done. Will keep on it. It will email if/when it reaches 20. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20231212194900-Certes-20231212181500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:49, 12 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-135" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Hmmm. It sounds as if they need a bigger computer. They can afford it. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Certes-20231212223300-GreenC-20231212194900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:33, 12 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-136" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> Everything looks good today. Thank you. The only difference from before is that the output now appears alphabetically by target rather than sorted as in the parent page, but that's not a problem. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Certes-20231213101300-Backlinks_timing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:13, 13 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-137" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Because there were duplicates in the parent page I had to unique the list which required a sort. I tried to unique it in a way that doesn't require a sort ie. <code>cat file.txt | awk '!s[$0]++' > out.txt</code>, but for some reason it dropped one of the entries.. I didn't have time to investigate it so went with the tried and true method of <code>sort file.txt | unique > out.txt</code>. You can try this yourself with the list of entries and see if the results differ in the number of entries on output compared to input. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20231213154300-Certes-20231213101300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:43, 13 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-138" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> That sounds very reasonable. (<code>sort -u</code> may work on your system too.) <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Certes?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Certes-20231213163300-GreenC-20231213154300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:33, 13 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-139" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(22)">  <h2 id="Buck_Goldstein" data-mw-thread-id="h-Buck_Goldstein-20231218060200">Buck Goldstein</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=22&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Buck Goldstein" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-229" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20231218063200-GoingBatty-20231218060200">11 months ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-22 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-22"> Hi there! In <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/119006601?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/119006601">this edit</a>, your bot changed an incorrect <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url=</code> parameter, which added the article to <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_URL?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Category:CS1 errors: URL">Category:CS1 errors: URL‎‎</a>. Should the bot have done something different, or should it ignore the <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url=</code> parameter and only update the <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|archiveurl=</code>/<code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|archive-url=</code> parameter? Thanks! <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GoingBatty-20231218060200-Buck_Goldstein" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:02, 18 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-140" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> You mean <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1187499427/1190066019?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1187499427/1190066019">Special:Diff/1187499427/1190066019</a>. The bot that runs this process is a global bot, it is not programmed to handle templates in different languages, it only operates on the URL itself, not with template knowledge. The bot didn't do anything wrong, that wasn't already there; it's only purpose is to normalize archive.today URLs wherever they happen to be. If that caused the pre-existing error to be exposed in the tracking cat, it's a step forward. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20231218063200-GoingBatty-20231218060200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:32, 18 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-141" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(23)">  <h2 id="Preserving_the_correct_archived_version_of_archive.today_links" data-mw-thread-id="h-Preserving_the_correct_archived_version_of_archive.today_links-20240101120900">Preserving the correct archived version of archive.today links</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=23&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Preserving the correct archived version of archive.today links" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-230" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-SnorlaxMonster-20240102233400-GreenC-20240102222800">11 months ago</a>6 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-23 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-23"> In <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1190064971?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1190064971">this edit</a>, WaybackMedic 2.5 attempted to reformat a link to archive.today that had multiple different archives, but used the archive of the wrong date. The pre-existing link <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://archive.is/2Ljk6">https://archive.is/2Ljk6</a> is an archive from 24 November 2023. The link should have been converted to <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=http://archive.today/2023.11.24-014538/https://www.bloomberg.com/press-releases/1999-11-08/pokefans-can-now-eat-their-hearts-out-with-candy-planet-s">http://archive.today/2023.11.24-014538/https://www.bloomberg.com/press-releases/1999-11-08/pokefans-can-now-eat-their-hearts-out-with-candy-planet-s</a> (the "long link" for the page), but was instead converted to <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://archive.today/20231124014538/https://www.bloomberg.com/press-releases/1999-11-08/pokefans-can-now-eat-their-hearts-out-with-candy-planet-s">https://archive.today/20231124014538/https://www.bloomberg.com/press-releases/1999-11-08/pokefans-can-now-eat-their-hearts-out-with-candy-planet-s</a> , which corresponds to the 6 December 2023 archive. This resulted in the new archive link leading to an archive of a 404 page instead of the successfully archived page, and the <code>archive-date</code> parameter not matching the timestamp on the page or in the long URL. Ideally, the bot would notice when the new URL's archive date does not match the old URL's archive date and not make the edit if it cannot resolve this. Also, ideally it would catch when the citation template's <code>archive-date</code> doesn't match the URL's archive date, and either adjust the template's <code>archive-date</code> or display some kind of warning. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:SnorlaxMonster&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:SnorlaxMonster (page does not exist)">Snorlax</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:SnorlaxMonster?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:SnorlaxMonster">Monster</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-SnorlaxMonster-20240101120900-Preserving_the_correct_archived_version_of_archive.today_links" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:09, 1 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-142" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Actually, there also appears to be an issue on archive.today's end. While the page <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://archive.md/2Ljk6">https://archive.md/2Ljk6</a> does have a share option that says that <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=http://archive.today/2023.11.24-014538/https://www.bloomberg.com/press-releases/1999-11-08/pokefans-can-now-eat-their-hearts-out-with-candy-planet-s">http://archive.today/2023.11.24-014538/https://www.bloomberg.com/press-releases/1999-11-08/pokefans-can-now-eat-their-hearts-out-with-candy-planet-s</a> is the correct long URL, as it turns out, that long URL redirects to the 404 archive as well. In cases like that, I think WaybackMedic 2.5 should not change the URL to the long version, until archive.today corrects their long URLs for URLs with multiple archives. --<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:SnorlaxMonster&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:SnorlaxMonster (page does not exist)">Snorlax</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:SnorlaxMonster?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:SnorlaxMonster">Monster</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-SnorlaxMonster-20240101121200-SnorlaxMonster-20240101120900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:12, 1 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-143" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> <dl> <dd> <dl> <dd> That's strange. Looks like a one-off error at archive.today .. never seen it before. I can't verify every new long archive.today is the same, because of the resource load on archive.today servers would double, and the time it would take for the bot to finish. Unless there is evidence of a widespread problem, but in 7 years and over half a million conversions this is the first time it's been reported. All I can do for now is add a static string to the code to skip processing when it sees 2Ljk6. Other tools might try to do the same conversion like IABot or possibly Citation Bot. This is a tricky problem to solve long term. Ideally archive.today would be notified, is the correct solution. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240101192300-SnorlaxMonster-20240101121200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:23, 1 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-144" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I notified archive.today about the specific issue with the long URL via their "report bug or abuse" button, but I have no idea how likely those reports are to get read. I think just manually excluding that specific case is the best option for now. </dd> <dd> With regards to validating that the target page is the same, I think it should be as simple as checking the timestamp is the same (ignoring that bug I mentioned in my second message, where the long URL can redirect to the wrong version). I assume whatever API you're using to get the long URL from the short URL returns the archive date of the short URL in the request you are already making—the long URL has the archive date in the URL itself, so to me it seems like it should be possible to validate that the archive date hasn't changed by just comparing those two values, without needing any additional API requests to archive.today. But I also don't know what the code your bot uses, so I can't verify my assumptions about how it works. (I tried taking a look at the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://github.com/greencardamom/WaybackMedic">GitHub page</a> linked on <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC/WaybackMedic_2.5?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC/WaybackMedic 2.5">User:GreenC/WaybackMedic 2.5</a>, but it appears that it is for Wayback Medic 2.1 and doesn't include the <code>fixarchiveis</code> function that's included in Wayback Medic 2.5.) --<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:SnorlaxMonster&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:SnorlaxMonster (page does not exist)">Snorlax</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:SnorlaxMonster?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:SnorlaxMonster">Monster</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-SnorlaxMonster-20240102132200-GreenC-20240101192300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:22, 2 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-145" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> There is no API for this. You download the HTML of the short URL page, and the long form is there towards the top (view source search on "long link"). The GitHub code is old, but you can see it <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://github.com/greencardamom/WaybackMedic/blob/master/WaybackMedic%25202.1/modules/archiveis/archiveis.awk">here</a> at line 173. If the long form URL goes to a different version of the HTML, as in this case, I would need to download both the short and long HTML page, and run a string comparison to see if they are approximately the same HTML. Thus downloading HTML twice. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240102222800-SnorlaxMonster-20240102132200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:28, 2 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-146" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Ah okay, I suspected it could just be plain web scraping. Anyway, what I was trying to suggest was just comparing the date in the URL with the date on the HTML page (so there would be no need to resolve the long link). However, I had missed that the date in the long URL you retrieved was the correct one—the issue was entirely that archive.today redirects it. --<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:SnorlaxMonster&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:SnorlaxMonster (page does not exist)">Snorlax</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:SnorlaxMonster?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:SnorlaxMonster">Monster</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-SnorlaxMonster-20240102233400-GreenC-20240102222800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:34, 2 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-147" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(24)">  <h2 id="bug_report" data-mw-thread-id="h-bug_report-20240130014600">bug report</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=24&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: bug report" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-231" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Trappist_the_monk-20240130014900-Trappist_the_monk-20240130014600">10 months ago</a>2 comments1 person in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-24 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-24"> At <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1200472492?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1200472492">this edit</a>, GreenC bot copied a malformed wayback machine url from <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url=</code> into <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|archive-url=</code>. It ought not to have done it like that. The wayback machine url is malformed because its timestamp is not an acceptable length (14 digits preferred, 4 or 6 tolerated). cs1|2 emits an error message for single-digit timestamps and another error message when the values assigned to <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url=</code> and <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|archive-url=</code> are the same. —<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Trappist_the_monk-20240130014600-bug_report" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:46, 30 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-148" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Also, not clear where <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|archive-date=2007-06-15</code> came from. </dd> <dd> —<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Trappist_the_monk-20240130014900-Trappist_the_monk-20240130014600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:49, 30 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-149" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(25)">  <h2 id="Bug_report:_Incorrect_archive-date" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bug_report:_Incorrect_archive-date-20240130182200">Bug report: Incorrect archive-date</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=25&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Bug report: Incorrect archive-date" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-232" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20240130200800-GoingBatty-20240130182200">10 months ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-25 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-25"> Hi there! In <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1200481200?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1200481200">this edit</a>, the bot added <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|archive-date=18990101080101</code>. Is there something you could add to the bot to prevent the addition of incorrect dates such as this? Thanks! <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GoingBatty-20240130182200-Bug_report:_Incorrect_archive-date" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:22, 30 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-150" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I do have warnings but apparently was lazy and forgot to check the logs. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240130200800-GoingBatty-20240130182200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:08, 30 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-151" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(26)">  <h2 id="bug_report_(2)" data-mw-thread-id="h-bug_report_(2)-20240201185700">bug report (2)</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=26&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: bug report (2)" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-233" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Trappist_the_monk-20241002150500-GreenC-20241002142500">2 months ago</a>5 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-26 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-26"> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_archive-url?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Category:CS1 errors: archive-url">Category:CS1 errors: archive-url</a> recently bloomed. I have just fixed these four articles broken by Wayback Medic 2.5: <ul> <li><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/2023%E2%80%9324_Australian_region_cyclone_season?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="2023–24 Australian region cyclone season">2023–24 Australian region cyclone season</a></li> <li><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/2024_in_science?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="2024 in science">2024 in science</a></li> <li><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/2024_Noto_earthquake?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="2024 Noto earthquake">2024 Noto earthquake</a></li> <li><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/101955_Bennu?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="101955 Bennu">101955 Bennu</a></li> </ul> Every error was a <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|archive-date=</code> mismatch with the <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|archive-url=</code> timestamp. <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|archive-date=</code> was always off by one day; always earlier than the time stamp except for <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1201943548?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-14" title="Special:PermanentLink/1201943548">this one</a> from <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/2024_Noto_earthquake?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="2024 Noto earthquake">2024 Noto earthquake</a>. —<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Trappist_the_monk-20240201185700-bug_report_(2)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:57, 1 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-152" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> And then there is <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1201943921?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-4" title="Special:Diff/1201943921">this one</a> that is off by a couple of weeks, <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1201936779%26oldid%3D1198239431?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#cite_note-5" title="Special:Diff/1201936779&oldid=1198239431">this one</a> off by a year. So it looks like what I wrote above may not hold much water... </dd> <dd> —<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <s><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Trappist_the_monk-20240201190800-Trappist_the_monk-20240201185700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:08, 1 February 2024 (UTC)</a></s> 19:37, 1 February 2024 (UTC)<span id="ooui-php-153" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> The date mismatch error preexisted. The bot only made it more obvious, so that CS1|2 error-checking is now able to see it. I would prefer to fix the archive-date at the same time as expanding archive.today URLs from short to long form (per RfC requirement). However this task is universal it operates on many wiki language sites, it does not have knowledge of template names or arguments in other languages. It only expands a URL wherever it may be, it doesn't look at templates. That would require another universal bot I guess, that can operate on CS1|2 templates in multiple languages. If you want to write one, I have the approval to run it. The reason the dates are frequently offset by 1 day, users add an archive.today link they just created, set <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|archive-date=</code> to their relative location, but the archive.today uses UTC time, which has already passed into a new day. The ones offset by a week or year are user entry errors. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240201214900-bug_report_(2)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:49, 1 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-154" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">User:Trappist the monk</a>: I have written a separate bot that fixes the date mismatch error populating <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_archive-url?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Category:CS1 errors: archive-url">Category:CS1 errors: archive-url</a>. Example <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1248926553/1248972462?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1248926553/1248972462">Special:Diff/1248926553/1248972462</a>. It retrieves the date from the "suggested" date, generated by tCS1|2 in the HTML warning message. This way it can run on other language wikis without needing to deal with language differences. It falls back to ISO mode if it can't get a suggestion. Do you think it is OK to rely on the "suggested" date generated by CS1|2? -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20241002142500-GreenC-20240201214900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:25, 2 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-155" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> The suggested date is simply the date portion of the archive-url timestamp formatted according to the format specified by <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|df=</code> → the global <code>{{use xxx dates}}</code> → format of the date in <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|archive-date=</code> → YYYY-MM-DD. Getting the date from the html seems a reasonable thing to do; the grunt work has already been done. </dd> <dd> —<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Trappist_the_monk-20241002150500-GreenC-20241002142500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 2 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-156" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(27)">  <h2 id="bug_report_(3)_Bot_ignores_cbignore" data-mw-thread-id="h-bug_report_(3)_Bot_ignores_cbignore-20240604170500">bug report (3) Bot ignores cbignore</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=27&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: bug report (3) Bot ignores cbignore" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-234" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-198.111.57.100-20240606162700-GreenC-20240604172800">5 months ago</a>5 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-27 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-27"> Here [<a class="external autonumber" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DScott_Boman%26diff%3D1226780032%26oldid%3D1226698153">[2]</a>] I noticed that the bot edited an external link with cbignore after it. I compared the links before and after the edit to see why the cbignore template was there. The long and short links are from different dates and display different content. The altered link no longer contained the relivent content. This would not matter if the bot observed the cbignore.--<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/198.111.57.100?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/198.111.57.100">198.111.57.100</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:198.111.57.100?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:198.111.57.100">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-198.111.57.100-20240604170500-bug_report_(3)_Bot_ignores_cbignore" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:05, 4 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-157" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> OK this problem is complicated. There are multiple things going on. <ul> <li>All short-form archive.today links need to be expanded to long form. This is required as Wikipedia does not allow URL shortening which has security problems.</li> <li>Archive.today has a bug. When saving links from WebCite, it incorrectly gives the long form.</li> </ul> <dl> <dd> <dl> <dd> Incorrect: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=http://archive.today/UfV6G">http://archive.today/UfV6G</a> --> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://archive.today/20121120012223/http://romeoareateaparty.org/wordpress/2012-candidates-2/races/u-s-senate/">https://archive.today/20121120012223/http://romeoareateaparty.org/wordpress/2012-candidates-2/races/u-s-senate/</a> </dd> <dd> Correct: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=http://archive.today/UfV6G">http://archive.today/UfV6G</a> --> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://archive.today/20121120012223/https://www.webcitation.org/6CIutMLaZ?url%3Dhttp://romeoareateaparty.org/wordpress/2012-candidates-2/races/u-s-senate/">https://archive.today/20121120012223/https://www.webcitation.org/6CIutMLaZ?url=http://romeoareateaparty.org/wordpress/2012-candidates-2/races/u-s-senate/</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> Notice the "Correct" version includes the original WebCite URL. The "Incorrect" version excludes the WebCite URL. <ul> <li>GreenC bot has a bug in that it can't see cbignore when making these changes.</li> <li>GreenC bot has a bug in so far as it doesn't detect the Archive.today bug</li> </ul> </dd> <dd> So I need to make some adjustments to work around the Archive.today bug. I also need to report the bug to Archive.today though there is no guarantee they will fix it. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240604172800-198.111.57.100-20240604170500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:28, 4 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-158" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> <ul> <li>Update the bug is reported to Archive.today -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240604181400-GreenC-20240604172800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-159" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Archive.today fixed it. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240604210100-GreenC-20240604181400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 4 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-160" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl></li> </ul> <dl> <dd> Thank you!--<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Contributions/198.111.57.100?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Contributions/198.111.57.100">198.111.57.100</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:198.111.57.100?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:198.111.57.100">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-198.111.57.100-20240606162700-GreenC-20240604172800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 6 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-161" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(28)">  <h2 id="Please_don't_convert_old_Google_patents_links_to_archive.today" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_don't_convert_old_Google_patents_links_to_archive.today-20240608164100">Please don't convert old Google patents links to archive.today</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=28&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Please don't convert old Google patents links to archive.today" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-235" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20240608165200-Jacobolus-20240608164100">5 months ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-28 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-28"> This is a very unhelpful change: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1227937929?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1227937929">special:diff/1227937929</a>. The links on the archived page to PDFs and drawings all 404, meaning that the actual content of the patent is not accessible. Nor are any of the other features originally presented by Google patent search. This type of archive page should not ever be used for patents. You should either fix the Google patent URLs, which is fairly trivial (you can see the fix for this page at <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1227941924?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1227941924">special:diff/1227941924</a>), or switch to links to the US patent office or similar. Can you please revert or properly fix all of the similar recent edits you have made across Wikipedia? (Judging from your recent contribution list it seems like there were a lot.) Otherwise you're just creating work for someone else / leaving confused readers. –<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Jacobolus?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Jacobolus">jacobolus</a> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Jacobolus?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Jacobolus">(t)</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Jacobolus-20240608164100-Please_don't_convert_old_Google_patents_links_to_archive.today" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 8 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-162" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> 1. You should post this in the forum linked in the edit summary: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:URLREQ?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#google.com/patents" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:URLREQ">WP:URLREQ#google.com/patents</a> - that's the community forum for this task that everyone is reading. </dd> <dd> 2. There is nothing my bot can't do. And there is nothing that is permanent or can't be changed or undone. Do not panic or become upset. </dd> <dd> 3. Give me details. I will do it. But I need information. You gave a diff saying it's trivial, but how do I obtain <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://archive.today/20121211035219/http://www.google.com/patents?id%3DlvNwAAAAEBAJ">https://archive.today/20121211035219/http://www.google.com/patents?id=lvNwAAAAEBAJ</a> is the same as <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://patents.google.com/patent/US417831A">https://patents.google.com/patent/US417831A</a> ? There is a code in the second URL that does not exist in the first URL. </dd> <dd> Anyway, please follow at URLREQ so others can know what's going on. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240608165200-Jacobolus-20240608164100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:52, 8 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-163" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(29)">  <h2 id="Job_18_showing_up_in_WPCleaner" data-mw-thread-id="h-Job_18_showing_up_in_WPCleaner-20240611021600">Job 18 showing up in WPCleaner</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=29&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Job 18 showing up in WPCleaner" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-236" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20240611035600-Lindsey40186-20240611021600">5 months ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-29 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-29"> I'm running the WPCleaner and noticed that Error 95 (Editor's signature of link to user space) has flagged the bot, specifically Job 18, on a ton of pages (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Arundhathi_Subramaniam?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Arundhathi Subramaniam">Arundhathi Subramaniam</a> is one to give an example). It looks like the bot signature is in the "reason" field of the template {{verify source |date=September 2019 |reason=This ref was deleted Special:Diff/893567847 by a bug in VisualEditor and later restored by a bot from the original cite located at Special:Permalink/893405019 cite #4 - verify the cite is accurate and delete this template. [[User:GreenC bot/Job 18]] I don't have a count of the pages, but it's not an insignificant amount from what I can see. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Lindsey40186?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Lindsey40186">Lindsey40186</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Lindsey40186?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Lindsey40186">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Lindsey40186-20240611021600-Job_18_showing_up_in_WPCleaner" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-164" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I don't know about WPCleaner, or what the error message means. It was an old bot job, that no longer runs. It was a peculiar and difficult situation. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240611035600-Lindsey40186-20240611021600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:56, 11 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-165" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(30)">  <h2 id="Typo" data-mw-thread-id="h-Typo-20240614185900">Typo</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=30&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Typo" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-237" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20240614201700-DareshMohan-20240614185900">5 months ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-30 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-30"> After <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Link_rot/URL_change_requests?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#deccanchronicle.com" title="Wikipedia:Link rot/URL change requests">Wikipedia:Link_rot/URL_change_requests#deccanchronicle.com</a>, the bot is adding links to <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Deccan_Chronical&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="Deccan Chronical (page does not exist)">Deccan Chronical</a> instead of <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Deccan_Chronicle?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Deccan Chronicle">Deccan Chronicle</a>. See <a class="external autonumber" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DKarthik_Subbaraj%26diff%3D1227476768%26oldid%3D1227217248">[3]</a> and <a class="external autonumber" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Deccan_Chronical">[4]</a>. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:DareshMohan?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:DareshMohan">DareshMohan</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:DareshMohan?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:DareshMohan">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-DareshMohan-20240614185900-Typo" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:59, 14 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-166" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Oh sheesh, thanks. Fixed <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1228320785/1229089609?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1228320785/1229089609">Special:Diff/1228320785/1229089609</a> in 829 pages . -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240614201700-DareshMohan-20240614185900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:17, 14 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-167" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(31)">  <h2 id="Thanks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks-20240702133000">Thanks</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=31&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Thanks" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-238" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20240702160700-JuanBoss105-20240702135300">5 months ago</a>3 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-31 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-31"> Hey, I just want to say thank you for using the Wayback Machine for MTV News for my citations. Can you do that for Drag-On's album Hell and Back? Ill post the original link. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:JuanBoss105&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:JuanBoss105 (page does not exist)">JuanBoss105</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:JuanBoss105?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:JuanBoss105">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-JuanBoss105-20240702133000-Thanks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:30, 2 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-168" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Hey, I found a link to a MTV.com source that can be used for Rocafella. Can you add it using the wayback machine? </dd> <dd> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.mtv.com/news/c1psz3/state-property-members-stress-independence-dont-take-orders%26ved%3D2ahUKEwiS1cGYwIiHAxUdD1kFHf0oCVYQFnoECCIQAQ%26usg%3DAOvVaw1m9yMSZqvcQC7xuV2PKS9D">https://www.mtv.com/news/c1psz3/state-property-members-stress-independence-dont-take-orders&ved=2ahUKEwiS1cGYwIiHAxUdD1kFHf0oCVYQFnoECCIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1m9yMSZqvcQC7xuV2PKS9D</a> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:JuanBoss105&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:JuanBoss105 (page does not exist)">JuanBoss105</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:JuanBoss105?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:JuanBoss105">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-JuanBoss105-20240702135300-JuanBoss105-20240702133000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:53, 2 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-169" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:JuanBoss105&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:JuanBoss105 (page does not exist)">User:JuanBoss105</a>: I found an archive URL with a different source URL: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://web.archive.org/web/20150122173241/http://www.mtv.com/news/1498885/state-property-members-stress-independence-dont-take-orders/">https://web.archive.org/web/20150122173241/http://www.mtv.com/news/1498885/state-property-members-stress-independence-dont-take-orders/</a> </dd> <dd> I found it using the archive's search feature: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://web.archive.org/mtv.com/search/%2522state%2520property%2520members%2520stress%2520independence%2522">Search: "State Property Members Stress Independence"</a>. </dd> <dd> You can find other archive URLs at MTV.com this way. </dd> <dd> For example in <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1231668617/1232196891?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1231668617/1232196891">Special:Diff/1231668617/1232196891</a> you added <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.mtv.com/news/v0uzg8/norah-jones-tops-a-mil-at-1-kanye-west-settles-for-2">https://www.mtv.com/news/v0uzg8/norah-jones-tops-a-mil-at-1-kanye-west-settles-for-2</a> you can find the archive URL by going to this search page: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://web.archive.org/mtv.com/search/%2522norah%2520jones%2520tops%2520a%2520mil%2522">Search: "Norah Jones tops a mil"</a>. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240702160700-JuanBoss105-20240702135300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:07, 2 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-170" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(32)">  <h2 id="Tampabay.com" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tampabay.com-20240712002100">Tampabay.com</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=32&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Tampabay.com" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-239" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20240712060900-Grorp-20240712054500">4 months ago</a>10 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-32 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-32"> Stop running this right now on tampabay.com links. Every one I've checked is wrong. It is adding archive links (okay) to currently live articles, and tagging them as dead (wrong). Also is overriding explicit |url-status=dead to |url-live when it encounters redirects to the main page of tampabay.com. Tired of fixing these because GreenC bot is on a roll. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Grorp?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Grorp">   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ </a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Grorp-20240712002100-Tampabay.com" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:21, 12 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-171" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Clarification: Not every single instance, but too many, for sure. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Grorp?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Grorp">   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ </a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Grorp-20240712003100-Grorp-20240712002100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:31, 12 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-172" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> Oh shoot, looks like they used an exotic redirect mechanism, it fooled the bot. I have a way around it, but this is the first I became aware of it. I'll have to reprocess. Anyway, thanks for the info. BTW you should post error reports in the section linked in the edit summary, that is the discussion for this job. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240712003800-Tampabay.com" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:38, 12 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-173" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> @<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">GreenC</a>: That was gibberish to me so I found this talk page. I just now put a link from there to here. You're welcome to copy this over there, and delete this thread, if that makes more sense. I'll watchlist both. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Grorp?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Grorp">   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ </a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Grorp-20240712004200-GreenC-20240712003800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-174" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Not all of the edits were incorrect or needed correcting. If you want a list of which ones I corrected, then they're in my contributions list from 22:10, 11 July 2024 to 00:37, 12 July 2024 (UTC). All but the first of my corrections has "GreenC bot" in the edit summary. (I edit in a topic area that relies heavily on tampabay.com, many of which are on my watchlist.) <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Grorp?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Grorp">   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ </a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Grorp-20240712005300-Grorp-20240712004200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:53, 12 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-175" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> Grorp, <ol> <li><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1233941553/1233989259?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1233941553/1233989259">Special:Diff/1233941553/1233989259</a> - this appears to be a one-off, maybe a network transient. When I run the page again (locally) the problem does not happen. I'd be surprised there are more like this. It can happen but I don't think it's systematic or common. If you see more, let me know.</li> <li><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1233948702/1233989465?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1233948702/1233989465">Special:Diff/1233948702/1233989465</a> - exotic redirect problem noted above</li> <li><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1233957098/1233990527?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1233957098/1233990527">Special:Diff/1233957098/1233990527</a> - ditto</li> <li><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1233959661/1233991011?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1233959661/1233991011">Special:Diff/1233959661/1233991011</a> - archive.today I manually verify beforehand. This one is a manual verification error, which is rare, but not impossible. I can provide a list of the archive.today URLs that were added (193).</li> </ol> I can redress the exotic redirect, which looks to be limited to URLs ending in .ece -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240712012900-Tampabay.com" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:29, 12 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-176" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Update: I found 29 instances of the exotic redirect, among the set of 6,846 pages, or less than 1/2 of one percent. Of the archive.today error, there was one in 193, or about the same 1/2 of one percent. Thanks for the report, find any other problems let me know. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240712024200-GreenC-20240712012900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-177" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> <dl> <dd> <dl> <dd> Thanks. Will do. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Grorp?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Grorp">   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ </a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Grorp-20240712054500-GreenC-20240712024200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:45, 12 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-178" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> <div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"> </div> I have no idea how to decipher/restore/resurrect these old pqarchiver links (like in your fourth example above). If there's a writeup, or some tips, please point me in the right direction. I do come across these <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search%3Dinsource%253A%2522pqarchiver%2522%2Bscientology%26title%3DSpecial:Search%26profile%3Dadvanced%26fulltext%3D1%26ns0%3D1">fairly regularly</a> in this topic area I edit; many point to old sptimes.com news articles (St Petersburg Times was bought out by Tampa Bay Times). If there is any way I can resurrect an actual copy of some of these old articles, I'd like to try to fix some of them. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Grorp?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Grorp">   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ </a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Grorp-20240712054500-Tampabay.com" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:45, 12 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-179" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I found 63 pqarchiver links (out of the 193 archive.today links added) and they all worked, except this one. If it doesn't exist at archive.org or archive.today it's probably gone forever need to find an alternate source probably. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240712060900-Grorp-20240712054500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:09, 12 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-180" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(33)">  <h2 id="Other_wikis" data-mw-thread-id="h-Other_wikis-20240728182000">Other wikis</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=33&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Other wikis" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-240" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20240728204900-Imzadi1979-20240728191200">4 months ago</a>4 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-33 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-33"> Do you ever deploy the bot to other wikis to assist with link maintenance and updates? <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Imzadi1979?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Imzadi1979">Imzadi 1979</a> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Imzadi1979?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Imzadi1979"><big>→</big></a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Imzadi1979-20240728182000-Other_wikis" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:20, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-181" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> It's a very big job to internationalize the bot for templates, dates etc - I'd like to eventually. But it does update links in the IABot database (iabot.org), and IABot then updates 300+ wikis based on the contents of the database. Thus when my bot discovers a dead link on enwiki, it updates enwiki adding an archive URL, then also updates the IABot database changing the status to "dead" and adding the archive URL into the database. Then IABot scans the 300+ other wikis and when it finds that link, it adds the archive URL, taken from the database. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240728185500-Imzadi1979-20240728182000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:55, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-182" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I was curious if it would work on the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://wiki.aaroads.com">AARoads Wiki</a>, which uses the same templates as the English Wikipedia, so no internationalization needed. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Imzadi1979?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Imzadi1979">Imzadi 1979</a> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Imzadi1979?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Imzadi1979"><big>→</big></a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Imzadi1979-20240728191200-GreenC-20240728185500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:12, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-183" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> IABot would be better since it continuously scans pages and fully automatic replace dead links. WaybackMedic does more specialized work on a per-domain basis for many types of issues with manual oversight. A good place to post a request is <a class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:InternetArchiveBot">https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:InternetArchiveBot</a> -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240728204900-Imzadi1979-20240728191200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:49, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-184" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(34)">  <h2 id="bot_destructive" data-mw-thread-id="h-bot_destructive-20240803211600">bot destructive</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=34&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: bot destructive" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-241" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-ChaseKiwi-20240803211600-bot_destructive">4 months ago</a>1 comment1 person in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-34 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-34"> I just had to a manual purge on <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Eyjafjallaj%C3%B6kull?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Eyjafjallajökull">Eyjafjallajökull</a> after bot had visited as page was from the top displaying The time allocated for running scripts has expired.The time allocated for running scripts has expired. The time allocated for running scripts has expired. This is a complex page calling in a couple of data rich templates usually rendered well within normal parsing allowance of 10 seconds but if the wikipedia infrastucture is under load can fail on an edit. The bot accordingly presently needs a (? manual} check of page output after every use. Often the fail is towards the end of such a page with the references so only obvious on a full page manual skim. Please ensure you do this as many high quality pages have reference lists running into 100's with processing times about the 5 second mark. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:ChaseKiwi?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:ChaseKiwi">ChaseKiwi</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:ChaseKiwi?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:ChaseKiwi">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-ChaseKiwi-20240803211600-bot_destructive" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:16, 3 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-185" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(35)">  <h2 id="Bug_report_-_templates_in_images_in_infoboxes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bug_report_-_templates_in_images_in_infoboxes-20240812120300">Bug report - templates in images in infoboxes</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=35&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Bug report - templates in images in infoboxes" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-242" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20240812182300-Primefac-20240812120300">3 months ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-35 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-35"> Just wanted to flag <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1239809626?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1239809626">Special:Diff/1239809626</a>, doesn't seem to recognise there's a template in that URL. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Primefac?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Primefac">Primefac</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Primefac?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Primefac">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Primefac-20240812120300-Bug_report_-_templates_in_images_in_infoboxes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:03, 12 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-186" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Oops my regex was stopping at "}" instead of "{" had it reversed. Thanks. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240812182300-Primefac-20240812120300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:23, 12 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-187" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(36)">  <h2 id="Job_15_GA_mismatches_stoppage" data-mw-thread-id="h-Job_15_GA_mismatches_stoppage-20240813100700">Job 15 GA mismatches stoppage</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=36&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Job 15 GA mismatches stoppage" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-243" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Beland-20240813203300-GreenC-20240813162200">3 months ago</a>6 comments3 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-36 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-36"> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC_bot/Job_15?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC bot/Job 15">User:GreenC bot/Job 15</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_articles/mismatches?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:Good articles/mismatches">GA mismatches</a>) has stopped after <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_articles/all?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:Good articles/all">Wikipedia:Good articles/all</a> was <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DWikipedia%253AGood_articles%252Fall%26diff%3D1237436963%26oldid%3D1229147724">edited</a>. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Adabow?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Adabow">Adabow</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Adabow?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Adabow">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Adabow-20240813100700-Job_15_GA_mismatches_stoppage" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:07, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-188" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Adabow?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Adabow">User:Adabow</a>, because of <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1229147724/1237436963?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1229147724/1237436963">Special:Diff/1229147724/1237436963</a> by <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Beland?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Beland">User:Beland</a>. The bot is not aware of <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_articles/all2?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:Good articles/all2">Wikipedia:Good articles/all2</a>. It aborted because the number of entries in <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_articles/all?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Wikipedia:Good articles/all">Wikipedia:Good articles/all</a> is below a magic number ie. it looks suspicious. Everything worked, except I neglected to add an email reminder (only logs) so I didn't notice. Thanks for the ping. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240813161700-Adabow-20240813100700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:17, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-189" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Beland?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Beland">User:Beland</a> could you verify the lists are correct? There appears to be duplication at the top with two table of contents, for example two entries for "Agriculture, food, and drink". There is also a line that says "View the entire list of all good articles or" in which points to Wikipedia:Good articles/all .. is that still accurate? -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240813162200-GreenC-20240813161700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:22, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-190" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> The duplicate TOCs were being transcluded from the per-topic pages. I suppressed them with "noinclude" tags. The link from subpages still points to /all, but once readers get there they will see "all" is split between /all and /all2. I think that's probably fine for now, unless we want to just stop altogether with combining multiple per-topic pages into one or two massive scrollable lists. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Beland?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Beland">Beland</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Beland?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Beland">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Beland-20240813203300-GreenC-20240813162200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:33, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-191" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> I think this change could break three bots: FACBot, LivingBot, and GreenC bot. There is a message in the page that says changes to the page layout will break the bots (GreenC bot not mentioned I will add it later). <s>Bots should be notified given time to adjust.</s> (looks like the two bots were notified, ty) There might be other tools and bots as well. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240813163400-GreenC-20240813161700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:34, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-192" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> <dd> Actually it looks like the creation of "all2" was in February: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1066123344/1229147724?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1066123344/1229147724">Special:Diff/1066123344/1229147724</a> .. so my bot has not been running properly since. Trying this to better communicate: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Special:Diff/1237436963/1240124928?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Special:Diff/1237436963/1240124928">Special:Diff/1237436963/1240124928</a> -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240813164600-GreenC-20240813161700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:46, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-193" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(37)">  <h2 id="Broke_139_archive.ph_links!_They_are_clearly_labeled." data-mw-thread-id="h-Broke_139_archive.ph_links!_They_are_clearly_labeled.-20240915233500">Broke 139 archive.ph links! They are clearly labeled.</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=37&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Broke 139 archive.ph links! They are clearly labeled." class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-244" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-GreenC-20240916001500-Ɠɧơʂɬɛɖ-20240915233500">2 months ago</a>2 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-37 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-37"> Your bot took the <code>url=</code> with the live link & altered 139 <code>archive-url=</code> that had archive.ph links & changed them to "archive.today/[url of live link]". Not only is archive.today a DEAD site, but all my archive links were live. This is an error when you visit that site: This site can’t be reached <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://archive.today/">https://archive.today/</a> is unreachable. ERR_ADDRESS_UNREACHABLE What is the purpose of this? <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:%C6%93%C9%A7%C6%A1%CA%82%C9%AC%C9%9B%C9%96?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Ɠɧơʂɬɛɖ">Ɠɧơʂɬɛɖ</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:%C6%93%C9%A7%C6%A1%CA%82%C9%AC%C9%9B%C9%96?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Ɠɧơʂɬɛɖ">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-%25C6%2593%25C9%25A7%25C6%25A1%25CA%2582%25C9%25AC%25C9%259B%25C9%2596-20240915233500-Broke_139_archive.ph_links!_They_are_clearly_labeled." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:35, 15 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-194" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Archive.today is not dead it works fine <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/archive.today.html">for me and everyone else</a>. Your local machine's DNS resolver is having temporary problems. See <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Archive.today?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Cloudflare_DNS_availability" title="Archive.today">Archive.today#Cloudflare_DNS_availability</a>. Use a different DNS resolver and the problem will be solved. Please use archive.today it is the main gateway host to the site, which redirects to one of the backend sites like archive.ph .. the site is literally called "<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Archive.today?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Archive.today">Archive.today</a>" not "Archive ph", the .ph is an internal thing they do to protect against domain name hijacking. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240916001500-%25C6%2593%25C9%25A7%25C6%25A1%25CA%2582%25C9%25AC%25C9%259B%25C9%2596-20240915233500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:15, 16 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-195" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(38)">  <h2 id="Archive.today_isn't_accessible_from_Italy" data-mw-thread-id="h-Archive.today_isn't_accessible_from_Italy-20240917155500">Archive.today isn't accessible from Italy</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=38&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Archive.today isn't accessible from Italy" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-245" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Un_mondo_a_stelle_e_strisce-20241017161400-GreenC-20241017151800">1 month ago</a>8 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-38 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-38"> Hi, I saw your bot replaced archive.is links with the respective archive.today ones in some pages on italian Wikipedia (<a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DCapitoli_de_Le_bizzarre_avventure_di_JoJo%26diff%3D141129393%26oldid%3D141126904">here is an example</a>). However archive.today redirects to archive.ph, which has apparently been <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.commissariatodips.it/profilo/centro-nazionale-contrasto-pedopornografia-on-line/index.html">blocked</a> by italian Internet providers after being reported by police for hosting illegal content. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://imgur.com/a/archive-ph-status-italy-as-of-09-17-24-Dg9GfZY">This</a> is a screenshot I took and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://feddit.it/post/6613497">here</a> are other people talking about it. I wanted to warn you about this because now archived URLs aren't accessible and can't be checked without using proxies. Hope you can fix this. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Un_mondo_a_stelle_e_strisce&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Un mondo a stelle e strisce (page does not exist)">Un mondo a stelle e strisce</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Un_mondo_a_stelle_e_strisce?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Un mondo a stelle e strisce">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Un_mondo_a_stelle_e_strisce-20240917155500-Archive.today_isn't_accessible_from_Italy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:55, 17 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-196" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Un_mondo_a_stelle_e_strisce&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Un mondo a stelle e strisce (page does not exist)">User:Un mondo a stelle e strisce</a>, thank you for this information. Archive.today has problem sometimes. They created multiple domains: archive.is, .fo, .li, .today, .vn, .md, .ph .. do you know if all are blocked in Italy? I read the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://feddit.it/post/6613497">discussion</a> (6 months old) and this appears to be something done by the postal police? You could also try using a different DNS resolver that isn't going through Cloudflare, this is the problem for most people, due to a policy disagreement between Archive.today and Cloudflare -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240917163600-Un_mondo_a_stelle_e_strisce-20240917155500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:36, 17 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-197" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> archive.ph is the only one blocked, the others are all fine and working except for .today that redirects to it and therefore isn't accessible, too. According to the warning displayed when trying to reach the address, postal police took this measure because they found pedopornographic content on the website. I don't think the problem has anything to do with Cloudflare, as the page is still accessible via proxy. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Un_mondo_a_stelle_e_strisce&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Un mondo a stelle e strisce (page does not exist)">Un mondo a stelle e strisce</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Un_mondo_a_stelle_e_strisce?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Un mondo a stelle e strisce">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Un_mondo_a_stelle_e_strisce-20240917211200-GreenC-20240917163600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:12, 17 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-198" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> If you want, we can change everything to .is or whichever. In the mean time, I have disabled the twice-monthly process that converts everything to .today -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240917212400-Un_mondo_a_stelle_e_strisce-20240917211200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:24, 17 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-199" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Yes, replacing things with .is would be great, thanks for your help. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Un_mondo_a_stelle_e_strisce&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Un mondo a stelle e strisce (page does not exist)">Un mondo a stelle e strisce</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Un_mondo_a_stelle_e_strisce?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Un mondo a stelle e strisce">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Un_mondo_a_stelle_e_strisce-20240918082600-GreenC-20240917212400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:26, 18 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Un_mondo_a_stelle_e_strisce&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Un mondo a stelle e strisce (page does not exist)">User:Un mondo a stelle e strisce</a>, changed the first 3,000 pages, which is about 10%, then wait time before continuing (<a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DLevitating%26diff%3Dprev%26oldid%3D141266255">example</a>). -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240926013200-Un_mondo_a_stelle_e_strisce-20240918082600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:32, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-201" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Un_mondo_a_stelle_e_strisce&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Un mondo a stelle e strisce (page does not exist)">User:Un mondo a stelle e strisce</a>, this job is complete. Keep in mind, archive.today will continue to be added in many ways, by editors and bots. If you want to clear them out again, drop me a note. Or if this ban is ever lifted, drop me a note. Cheers. -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20241017151800-Archive.today_isn't_accessible_from_Italy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:18, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-202" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> Yes, I'll let you know about eventual further developments. Thanks very much for your help. <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Un_mondo_a_stelle_e_strisce&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Un mondo a stelle e strisce (page does not exist)">Un mondo a stelle e strisce</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Un_mondo_a_stelle_e_strisce?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Un mondo a stelle e strisce">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Un_mondo_a_stelle_e_strisce-20241017161400-GreenC-20241017151800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:14, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-203" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(39)">  <h2 id=""url-status=usurped"_causes_a_CS1_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-"url-status=usurped"_causes_a_CS1_message-20240924190900">"url-status=usurped" causes a CS1 message</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=39&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: "url-status=usurped" causes a CS1 message" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-246" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Manifestation-20240925194100-GreenC-20240924193500">2 months ago</a>3 comments2 people in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-39 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-39"> Hi GreenC! I just noticed that the GreenC bot has flagged many refs as part of <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Judi?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Bot_run_results" title="Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Judi">an effort to combat</a> the passive spamming of the Judi gambling syndicate. However, <code>| url-status=usurped</code> is currently causing a CS1 maintenance message. I am seeing these messages because I opted to make them visible <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Manifestation/common.css?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Manifestation/common.css">through my common.css</a>. Normally, they can not be seen. When I preview a page with a <code>usurped</code> ref, it shows this warning at the top: <dl> <dd> "Script warning: One or more (...) templates have maintenance messages; messages may be hidden (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Help:CS1_errors?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#Controlling_error_message_display" title="Help:CS1 errors">help</a>)." </dd> </dl> Also, with me, the altered refs have this bit tagged at the end: <dl> <dd> "CS1 maint: unfit URL (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Category:CS1_maint:_unfit_URL?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Category:CS1 maint: unfit URL">link</a>)" </dd> </dl> See <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Category:CS1_maint:_unfit_URL?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Category:CS1 maint: unfit URL">Category:CS1 maint: unfit URL</a>, which currently has 48,594 entries. Again, the maintenance message is normally not visible, not even to logged-in users. So this isn't an acute problem. I believe the maintenance message is shown incorrectly. If the URL has been usurped, but the original page was properly archived, then the ref as used on Wikipedia is probably not "unfit", right? What can be done about this? Cheers, <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Manifestation?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Manifestation">Manifestation</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Manifestation?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Manifestation">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Manifestation-20240924190900-%2522url-status%3Dusurped%2522_causes_a_CS1_message" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:09, 24 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-204" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> It looks like we are tracking all usages of unfit/usurped even legitimate uses and this automatically creates a maintenance message. I don't know what the rationale is. Maybe someone wants to know where the usurped URLs are? -- <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:GreenC">Green</a><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:GreenC">C</a> <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-GreenC-20240924193500-Manifestation-20240924190900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:35, 24 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-205" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> <dl> <dd> I have <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title%3DHelp_talk:Citation_Style_1%26diff%3D1247745526">started</a> a thread about this at <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Help_talk:Citation_Style_1?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Help talk:Citation Style 1">Help talk:Citation Style 1</a>. This has to be a bug. Cheers, <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Manifestation?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Manifestation">Manifestation</a> (<a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Manifestation?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Manifestation">talk</a>) <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot%23c-Manifestation-20240925194100-GreenC-20240924193500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:41, 25 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span id="ooui-php-206" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button">Reply</a> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </section> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(40)">  <h2 id="Oil_for_your_bot" data-mw-thread-id="h-Oil_for_your_bot-20241118092600">Oil for your bot</h2> <a role="button" href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GreenC_bot&action=edit&section=40&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Oil for your bot" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> edit </a> <span id="ooui-php-247" class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"></a> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> Latest comment: <a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:GreenC_bot?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Big_Blue_Cray(fish)_Twins-20241118092600-Oil_for_your_bot">15 days ago</a>1 comment1 person in discussion </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <section class="mf-section-40 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-40"> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody> <tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><a href="https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/File:Mobil_1_motor_oil.jpg?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="mw-file-description"> <noscript> <img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/Mobil_1_motor_oil.jpg/100px-Mobil_1_motor_oil.jpg" decoding="async" width="100" height="139" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="800" data-file-height="1114"> </noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 100px;height: 139px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/Mobil_1_motor_oil.jpg/100px-Mobil_1_motor_oil.jpg" data-width="100" data-height="139" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/Mobil_1_motor_oil.jpg/150px-Mobil_1_motor_oil.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/Mobil_1_motor_oil.jpg/200px-Mobil_1_motor_oil.jpg 2x" 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