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In the article, he argues that "Our most powerful 21st-century technologies—<a href="/wiki/Robotics" title="Robotics">robotics</a>, <a href="/wiki/Genetic_engineering" title="Genetic engineering">genetic engineering</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Nanotechnology" title="Nanotechnology">nanotech</a>—are threatening to make humans an <a href="/wiki/Endangered_species" title="Endangered species">endangered species</a>." Joy warns: </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1244412712">.mw-parser-output .templatequote{overflow:hidden;margin:1em 0;padding:0 32px}.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{line-height:1.5em;text-align:left;margin-top:0}@media(min-width:500px){.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{padding-left:1.6em}}</style><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>The experiences of the <a href="/wiki/History_of_nuclear_weapons" title="History of nuclear weapons">atomic scientists</a> clearly show the need to take personal responsibility, the danger that things will move too fast, and the way in which a process can take on a life of its own. We can, as they did, create insurmountable problems in almost no time flat. We must do more thinking up front if we are not to be similarly surprised and shocked by the consequences of our inventions.</p></blockquote> <p>While some critics have characterized Joy's stance as <a href="/wiki/Obscurantism" title="Obscurantism">obscurantism</a> or <a href="/wiki/Neo-Luddism" title="Neo-Luddism">neo-Luddism</a>, others share his concerns about the consequences of rapidly expanding technology.<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc" /> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Summary">Summary</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Why_the_Future_Doesn%27t_Need_Us&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Summary"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Joy argues that developing technologies pose a much greater danger to humanity than any technology before has ever done. In particular, he focuses on <a href="/wiki/Genetic_engineering" title="Genetic engineering">genetic engineering</a>, <a href="/wiki/Nanotechnology" title="Nanotechnology">nanotechnology</a> and <a href="/wiki/Robotics" title="Robotics">robotics</a>. He argues that 20th-century technologies of destruction such as the <a href="/wiki/Nuclear_bomb" class="mw-redirect" title="Nuclear bomb">nuclear bomb</a> were limited to large governments, due to the complexity and cost of such devices, as well as the difficulty in acquiring the required materials. He uses the novel <i><a href="/wiki/The_White_Plague" title="The White Plague">The White Plague</a></i> as a potential nightmare scenario, in which a <a href="/wiki/Mad_scientist" title="Mad scientist">mad scientist</a> creates a virus capable of wiping out humanity. </p><p>Joy also voices concerns about increasing computer power. His worry is that computers will eventually become more intelligent than we are, leading to such <a href="/wiki/Dystopian" class="mw-redirect" title="Dystopian">dystopian</a> scenarios as <a href="/wiki/Cybernetic_revolt" class="mw-redirect" title="Cybernetic revolt">robot rebellion</a>. He quotes <a href="/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski" title="Ted Kaczynski">Ted Kaczynski</a> (the Unabomber). </p><p>Joy expresses concerns that eventually the rich will be the only ones that have the power to control the future <a href="/wiki/Robot" title="Robot">robots</a> that will be built and that these people could also decide to take life into their own hands and control how humans continue to populate and reproduce.<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> He started doing more research into robotics and people that specialize in <a href="/wiki/Robotics" title="Robotics">robotics</a>, and outside of his own thoughts, he tried getting others' opinions on the topic. <a href="/wiki/Rodney_Brooks" title="Rodney Brooks">Rodney Brooks</a>, a specialist in robotics, believes that in the future there will be a merge between humans and robots.<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-3"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>3<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> Joy mentioned <a href="/wiki/Hans_Moravec" title="Hans Moravec">Hans Moravec's</a> book ''Robot: Mere Machine to Transcendent Mind'' where he believed there will be a shift in the future where robots will take over normal human activities, but with time humans will become okay with living that way.<sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-4"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>4<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Criticism">Criticism</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Why_the_Future_Doesn%27t_Need_Us&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Criticism"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>In <i><a href="/wiki/The_Singularity_Is_Near" title="The Singularity Is Near">The Singularity Is Near</a></i>, <a href="/wiki/Ray_Kurzweil" title="Ray Kurzweil">Ray Kurzweil</a> questioned the regulation of potentially dangerous technology, asking "Should we tell the millions of people afflicted with <a href="/wiki/Cancer" title="Cancer">cancer</a> and other devastating conditions that we are canceling the development of all <a href="/wiki/Bioengineering" class="mw-redirect" title="Bioengineering">bioengineered</a> treatments because there is a risk that these same technologies may someday be used for malevolent purposes?" However, <a href="/wiki/John_Zerzan" title="John Zerzan">John Zerzan</a> and <a href="/wiki/Chellis_Glendinning" title="Chellis Glendinning">Chellis Glendinning</a> believe that modern technologies are bad for both freedom and the problem of cancer, and that the two issues are connected.<sup id="cite_ref-5" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-5"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>5<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-6" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-6"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>6<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-7" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-7"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>7<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p><p>In the <a href="/wiki/American_Association_for_the_Advancement_of_Science" title="American Association for the Advancement of Science">AAAS</a> Science and Technology Policy Yearbook 2001 article "A Response to Bill Joy and the Doom-and-Gloom Technofuturists", <a href="/wiki/John_Seely_Brown" title="John Seely Brown">John Seely Brown</a> and Paul Duguid criticized Joy for having technological <a href="/wiki/Tunnel_vision" title="Tunnel vision">tunnel vision</a> on his prediction by failing to consider social factors.<sup id="cite_ref-8" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-8"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>8<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p><p><a href="/wiki/John_McGinnis" title="John McGinnis">John McGinnis</a> argues that Joy's proposal for "relinquishment" of technologies that might lead to <a href="/wiki/Artificial_general_intelligence" title="Artificial general intelligence">artificial general intelligence</a> (AGI) would fail because "prohibitions, at least under current technology and current geopolitics, are certain to be ineffective". Verification of AGI-limitation agreements would be difficult due to AGI's <a href="/wiki/Dual-use_technology" title="Dual-use technology">dual-use</a> nature and ease of being hidden. Similarly, he feels that Joy's "Hippocratic oath" proposal of voluntary abstention by scientists from harmful research would not be effective either, because scientists might be pressured by governments, tempted by profits, uncertain which technologies would lead to harm down the road, or opposed to Joy's premise in the first place. Rather than relinquishment of AGI, McGinnis argues for a kind of <a href="/wiki/Differential_technological_development" title="Differential technological development">differential technological development</a> in which <a href="/wiki/Friendly_artificial_intelligence" title="Friendly artificial intelligence">friendly artificial intelligence</a> is advanced faster than other kinds.<sup id="cite_ref-McGinnis2010_9-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-McGinnis2010-9"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>9<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p><p><a href="/wiki/Extropian" class="mw-redirect" title="Extropian">Extropian</a> futurist <a href="/wiki/Max_More" title="Max More">Max More</a> shares Kurzweil's viewpoint on matters of the impractical and ineffective nature of "technological relinquishment," but adds a larger moral and philosophical component to the argument, arguing that the perfection and evolution of humanity is not "losing our humanity" and that voluntarily-sought increased capacity in any domain does not even represent "a loss" of any kind.<sup id="cite_ref-More2001_10-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-More2001-10"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>10<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p><p>In <a href="/wiki/Zac_Goldsmith" title="Zac Goldsmith">Zac Goldsmith</a>'s article about Bill Joy's interview, he quotes him on how some concerns with new developing technologies are actually more dangerous than he expressed in the article, because Goldsmith claims that the developers of these machines are giving them too much power.<sup id="cite_ref-11" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-11"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>11<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> Goldsmith states his belief that scientists don't think of a lot of things that can go wrong when they start making inventions, because that will lead to less funding. </p><p>In Sophie Tysom's review about Bill Joy's article she says Joy shouldn't be one minded when it comes to newer technology, and should also see that there could be a "compromise" made between him and those new technologies.<sup id="cite_ref-12" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-12"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>12<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> She also agrees that he has a point for being worried about what will happen in the long run, but doesn't think that these technologies will try to control us in the future. Joy responded to this, stating that he liked that people were starting to respond to his article because it gave them an input on the subject.<sup id="cite_ref-13" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-13"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>13<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Aftermath">Aftermath</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Why_the_Future_Doesn%27t_Need_Us&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Aftermath"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>After the publication of the article, Bill Joy suggested assessing technologies to gauge their implicit dangers, as well as having scientists refuse to work on technologies that have the potential to cause harm. </p><p>In the 15th Anniversary issue of <i>Wired</i> in 2008, Lucas Graves's article reported that the genetics, nanotechnology, and robotics technologies have not reached the level that would make Bill Joy's scenario come true.<sup id="cite_ref-14" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-14"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>14<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p><p>Noted <a href="/wiki/Conspiracy_theory" title="Conspiracy theory">conspiracy theorist</a> <a href="/wiki/Alex_Jones" title="Alex Jones">Alex Jones</a> cited the article during a discussion on the implications of <a href="/wiki/Transhumanism" title="Transhumanism">transhumanism</a> with podcasters <a href="/wiki/Joe_Rogan" title="Joe Rogan">Joe Rogan</a> and <a href="/wiki/Tim_Dillon_(comedian)" title="Tim Dillon (comedian)">Tim Dillon</a> on the October 27, 2020 episode of <i><a href="/wiki/The_Joe_Rogan_Experience" title="The Joe Rogan Experience">The Joe Rogan Experience</a></i>.<sup id="cite_ref-15" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-15"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>15<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="References">References</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Why_the_Future_Doesn%27t_Need_Us&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: References"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239543626">.mw-parser-output .reflist{margin-bottom:0.5em;list-style-type:decimal}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .reflist{font-size:90%}}.mw-parser-output .reflist .references{font-size:100%;margin-bottom:0;list-style-type:inherit}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-2{column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-3{column-width:25em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns{margin-top:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns ol{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns li{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-alpha{list-style-type:upper-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-roman{list-style-type:upper-roman}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-alpha{list-style-type:lower-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-greek{list-style-type:lower-greek}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-roman{list-style-type:lower-roman}</style><div class="reflist reflist-columns references-column-width" style="column-width: 30em;"> <ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-1">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text">Khushf, George (2004). 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