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cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only " aria-hidden="true" ><span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-listBullet mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-listBullet"></span> <span class="vector-dropdown-label-text">Vis/skjul innholdsfortegnelsen</span> </label> <div class="vector-dropdown-content"> <div id="vector-page-titlebar-toc-unpinned-container" class="vector-unpinned-container"> </div> </div> </div> </nav> <h1 id="firstHeading" class="firstHeading mw-first-heading"><span class="mw-page-title-namespace">Wikipedia-diskusjon</span><span class="mw-page-title-separator">:</span><span class="mw-page-title-main">Ikke forstyrr Wikipedia for å få illustrert et poeng</span></h1> <div id="p-lang-btn" class="vector-dropdown mw-portlet mw-portlet-lang mw-portlet-lang-icon-only" > <input type="checkbox" id="p-lang-btn-checkbox" role="button" aria-haspopup="true" data-event-name="ui.dropdown-p-lang-btn" class="vector-dropdown-checkbox 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Legg til artikkelen på andre språk" > <label id="p-lang-btn-label" for="p-lang-btn-checkbox" class="vector-dropdown-label cdx-button cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only mw-portlet-lang-heading-empty" aria-hidden="true" ><span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-language mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-language"></span> <span class="vector-dropdown-label-text">Legg til språk</span> </label> <div class="vector-dropdown-content"> <div class="mw-portlet-empty-language-selector-body"> Sideinnholdet støttes ikke på andre språk. </div> </div> </div> </header> <div class="vector-page-toolbar"> <div class="vector-page-toolbar-container"> <div id="left-navigation"> <nav aria-label="Navnerom"> <div id="p-associated-pages" class="vector-menu vector-menu-tabs mw-portlet mw-portlet-associated-pages" > <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="ca-nstab-project" class="vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Ikke_forstyrr_Wikipedia_for_%C3%A5_f%C3%A5_illustrert_et_poeng" title="Vis prosjektsiden [c]" accesskey="c"><span>Prosjektside</span></a></li><li id="ca-talk" class="selected vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia-diskusjon:Ikke_forstyrr_Wikipedia_for_%C3%A5_f%C3%A5_illustrert_et_poeng" rel="discussion" title="Diskusjon om innholdssiden [t]" accesskey="t"><span>Diskusjon</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div id="vector-variants-dropdown" class="vector-dropdown emptyPortlet" > <input type="checkbox" id="vector-variants-dropdown-checkbox" role="button" aria-haspopup="true" data-event-name="ui.dropdown-vector-variants-dropdown" class="vector-dropdown-checkbox " aria-label="Bytt språkvariant" > <label id="vector-variants-dropdown-label" for="vector-variants-dropdown-checkbox" class="vector-dropdown-label cdx-button cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--weight-quiet" aria-hidden="true" ><span class="vector-dropdown-label-text">norsk bokmål</span> </label> <div class="vector-dropdown-content"> <div id="p-variants" class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-variants emptyPortlet" > <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </nav> </div> <div id="right-navigation" class="vector-collapsible"> <nav aria-label="Visninger"> <div id="p-views" class="vector-menu vector-menu-tabs mw-portlet mw-portlet-views" > <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="ca-view" class="selected vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia-diskusjon:Ikke_forstyrr_Wikipedia_for_%C3%A5_f%C3%A5_illustrert_et_poeng"><span>Les</span></a></li><li id="ca-edit" class="istalk vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia-diskusjon:Ikke_forstyrr_Wikipedia_for_%C3%A5_f%C3%A5_illustrert_et_poeng&action=edit" title="Rediger kildekoden for denne siden [e]" accesskey="e"><span>Rediger kilde</span></a></li><li id="ca-addsection" class="vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia-diskusjon:Ikke_forstyrr_Wikipedia_for_%C3%A5_f%C3%A5_illustrert_et_poeng&action=edit&section=new" title="Start et nytt avsnitt [+]" accesskey="+"><span>Nytt emne</span></a></li><li id="ca-history" class="vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia-diskusjon:Ikke_forstyrr_Wikipedia_for_%C3%A5_f%C3%A5_illustrert_et_poeng&action=history" title="Tidligere sideversjoner av denne siden [h]" accesskey="h"><span>Vis historikk</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> </nav> <nav class="vector-page-tools-landmark" aria-label="Sideverktøy"> <div id="vector-page-tools-dropdown" class="vector-dropdown vector-page-tools-dropdown" > <input type="checkbox" id="vector-page-tools-dropdown-checkbox" role="button" aria-haspopup="true" data-event-name="ui.dropdown-vector-page-tools-dropdown" class="vector-dropdown-checkbox " aria-label="Verktøy" > <label id="vector-page-tools-dropdown-label" for="vector-page-tools-dropdown-checkbox" class="vector-dropdown-label cdx-button cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--weight-quiet" aria-hidden="true" ><span class="vector-dropdown-label-text">Verktøy</span> </label> <div class="vector-dropdown-content"> <div id="vector-page-tools-unpinned-container" class="vector-unpinned-container"> <div id="vector-page-tools" class="vector-page-tools vector-pinnable-element"> <div class="vector-pinnable-header vector-page-tools-pinnable-header vector-pinnable-header-unpinned" data-feature-name="page-tools-pinned" data-pinnable-element-id="vector-page-tools" data-pinned-container-id="vector-page-tools-pinned-container" data-unpinned-container-id="vector-page-tools-unpinned-container" > <div class="vector-pinnable-header-label">Verktøy</div> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-pin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-page-tools.pin">flytt til sidefeltet</button> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-unpin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-page-tools.unpin">skjul</button> </div> <div id="p-cactions" class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-cactions emptyPortlet vector-has-collapsible-items" title="Flere alternativer" > <div class="vector-menu-heading"> Handlinger </div> <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="ca-more-view" class="selected vector-more-collapsible-item mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia-diskusjon:Ikke_forstyrr_Wikipedia_for_%C3%A5_f%C3%A5_illustrert_et_poeng"><span>Les</span></a></li><li id="ca-more-edit" class="istalk vector-more-collapsible-item mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia-diskusjon:Ikke_forstyrr_Wikipedia_for_%C3%A5_f%C3%A5_illustrert_et_poeng&action=edit" title="Rediger kildekoden for denne siden [e]" accesskey="e"><span>Rediger kilde</span></a></li><li id="ca-more-addsection" class="vector-more-collapsible-item mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia-diskusjon:Ikke_forstyrr_Wikipedia_for_%C3%A5_f%C3%A5_illustrert_et_poeng&action=edit&section=new"><span>Nytt emne</span></a></li><li id="ca-more-history" class="vector-more-collapsible-item mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia-diskusjon:Ikke_forstyrr_Wikipedia_for_%C3%A5_f%C3%A5_illustrert_et_poeng&action=history"><span>Vis historikk</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div id="p-tb" class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-tb" > <div class="vector-menu-heading"> Generelt </div> <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="t-whatlinkshere" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Spesial:Lenker_hit/Wikipedia-diskusjon:Ikke_forstyrr_Wikipedia_for_%C3%A5_f%C3%A5_illustrert_et_poeng" title="Liste over alle wikisider som lenker hit [j]" accesskey="j"><span>Lenker hit</span></a></li><li id="t-recentchangeslinked" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Spesial:Relaterte_endringer/Wikipedia-diskusjon:Ikke_forstyrr_Wikipedia_for_%C3%A5_f%C3%A5_illustrert_et_poeng" rel="nofollow" title="Siste endringer i sider som blir lenket fra denne siden [k]" accesskey="k"><span>Relaterte endringer</span></a></li><li id="t-upload" class="mw-list-item"><a href="//commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard?uselang=no" title="Last opp filer [u]" accesskey="u"><span>Last opp fil</span></a></li><li id="t-specialpages" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Spesial:Spesialsider" title="Liste over alle spesialsider [q]" accesskey="q"><span>Spesialsider</span></a></li><li id="t-permalink" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia-diskusjon:Ikke_forstyrr_Wikipedia_for_%C3%A5_f%C3%A5_illustrert_et_poeng&oldid=21523198" title="Permanent lenke til denne versjonen av siden"><span>Permanent lenke</span></a></li><li id="t-info" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia-diskusjon:Ikke_forstyrr_Wikipedia_for_%C3%A5_f%C3%A5_illustrert_et_poeng&action=info" title="Mer informasjon om denne siden"><span>Sideinformasjon</span></a></li><li id="t-urlshortener" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Spesial:UrlShortener&url=https%3A%2F%2Fno.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FWikipedia-diskusjon%3AIkke_forstyrr_Wikipedia_for_%25C3%25A5_f%25C3%25A5_illustrert_et_poeng"><span>Hent forkortet URL</span></a></li><li id="t-urlshortener-qrcode" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Spesial:QrCode&url=https%3A%2F%2Fno.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FWikipedia-diskusjon%3AIkke_forstyrr_Wikipedia_for_%25C3%25A5_f%25C3%25A5_illustrert_et_poeng"><span>Last ned QR-kode</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div id="p-coll-print_export" class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-coll-print_export" > <div class="vector-menu-heading"> Skriv ut / eksporter </div> <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="coll-download-as-rl" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Spesial:DownloadAsPdf&page=Wikipedia-diskusjon%3AIkke_forstyrr_Wikipedia_for_%C3%A5_f%C3%A5_illustrert_et_poeng&action=show-download-screen"><span>Last ned som PDF</span></a></li><li id="t-print" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia-diskusjon:Ikke_forstyrr_Wikipedia_for_%C3%A5_f%C3%A5_illustrert_et_poeng&printable=yes" title="Utskriftsvennlig versjon av denne siden [p]" accesskey="p"><span>Utskriftsvennlig versjon</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div id="p-wikibase-otherprojects" class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-wikibase-otherprojects emptyPortlet" > <div class="vector-menu-heading"> På andre prosjekter </div> <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </nav> </div> </div> </div> <div class="vector-column-end"> <div class="vector-sticky-pinned-container"> <nav class="vector-page-tools-landmark" aria-label="Sideverktøy"> <div id="vector-page-tools-pinned-container" class="vector-pinned-container"> </div> </nav> <nav class="vector-appearance-landmark" aria-label="Utseende"> <div id="vector-appearance-pinned-container" class="vector-pinned-container"> <div id="vector-appearance" class="vector-appearance vector-pinnable-element"> <div class="vector-pinnable-header vector-appearance-pinnable-header vector-pinnable-header-pinned" data-feature-name="appearance-pinned" data-pinnable-element-id="vector-appearance" data-pinned-container-id="vector-appearance-pinned-container" data-unpinned-container-id="vector-appearance-unpinned-container" > <div class="vector-pinnable-header-label">Utseende</div> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-pin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-appearance.pin">flytt til sidefeltet</button> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-unpin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-appearance.unpin">skjul</button> </div> </div> </div> </nav> </div> </div> <div id="bodyContent" class="vector-body" aria-labelledby="firstHeading" data-mw-ve-target-container> <div class="vector-body-before-content"> <div class="mw-indicators"> </div> <div id="siteSub" class="noprint">Fra Wikipedia, den frie encyklopedi</div> </div> <div id="contentSub"><div id="mw-content-subtitle"></div></div> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="nb" dir="ltr"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ga_idéer,_ikke_regler" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ga_idéer,_ikke_regler"><span id="Ga_id.C3.A9er.2C_ikke_regler"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ga_idéer,_ikke_regler"></span>Ga idéer, ikke regler<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ga_idéer,_ikke_regler"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia-diskusjon:Ikke_forstyrr_Wikipedia_for_%C3%A5_f%C3%A5_illustrert_et_poeng&action=edit&section=1" title="Rediger kildekoden til seksjonen Ga idéer, ikke regler"><span>rediger kilde</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Ga_id\u00e9er,_ikke_regler","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>Om jeg hadde vært vandal, og lest dette, hadde jeg tenkt. <i>Å skrive terrorisme i mange artikler....hmmm... Det har jeg ikke tenkt på før. Det skal jeg gjøre.</i> Dette er dumt. Egentlig var den bra, vi får se hva som skjer. <a href="/wiki/Bruker:Marcus" title="Bruker:Marcus">Mar</a><a href="/wiki/Brukerdiskusjon:Marcus" title="Brukerdiskusjon:Marcus">cu</a><a href="/wiki/Bruker:Marcus/Sandkasse" class="mw-redirect" title="Bruker:Marcus/Sandkasse">s</a> 25. jun 2006 kl.18:56 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Artikkelen_ikke_i_overensstemmelse_med_virkeligheten" data-mw-thread-id="h-Artikkelen_ikke_i_overensstemmelse_med_virkeligheten"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Artikkelen_ikke_i_overensstemmelse_med_virkeligheten"></span>Artikkelen ikke i overensstemmelse med virkeligheten<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Artikkelen_ikke_i_overensstemmelse_med_virkeligheten"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia-diskusjon:Ikke_forstyrr_Wikipedia_for_%C3%A5_f%C3%A5_illustrert_et_poeng&action=edit&section=2" title="Rediger kildekoden til seksjonen Artikkelen ikke i overensstemmelse med virkeligheten"><span>rediger kilde</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Artikkelen_ikke_i_overensstemmelse_med_virkeligheten","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>I seksjonen om å utnytte systemet gis eksempel med tilbakestillingskrig hvor det gis inntrykk av at vi er mer liberale enn engelsk-språklig Wikipedia fordi vi ikke har deres <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:3RR" class="extiw" title="en:WP:3RR">tre ganger tilbakestillingsregel</a>. Jeg mener våre administratorer håndhever reglene våre på en vel så proaktiv måte i forhold til fram–og–tilbake-tilbakestillinger. Derfor syns jeg ikke denne seksjonen gjenspeiler vår virkelighet særlig godt. __<a href="/wiki/Bruker:Meco" title="Bruker:Meco">meco</a> 31. jan 2007 kl. 12:30 (CET) </p> <dl><dd>Jeg ser ikke helt at det er en gis inntrykk av at vi er mer liberale. Det står at man kan bli blokkert også her, selv om vi ikke har en slik regel. Det finnes en rekke eksempler her på at det ikke blir blokkert ved tre tilbakestillinger, fordi det er mulig å utvise skjønn, noe det ikke er på enwiki og en del andre prosjekter. <a href="/wiki/Bruker:Cnyborg" title="Bruker:Cnyborg">Cnyborg</a> 31. jan 2007 kl. 15:36 (CET)</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Det er mulig at du har rett og at det bare tilfeldigvis er slik at jeg aldri har registrert at det vises slikt liberalt skjønn. Det er forsåvidt mulig du har rett selv om det ikke er tilfeldig at jeg ikke kan huske å ha opplevd det. Mitt inntrykk er at på de artikler hvor jeg følger med så reageres det lynraskt. __<a href="/wiki/Bruker:Meco" title="Bruker:Meco">meco</a> 31. jan 2007 kl. 18:18 (CET)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Jeg tenker konkret på <a href="/wiki/Operasjon_sommerregn" class="mw-redirect" title="Operasjon sommerregn">Operasjon sommerregn</a> og <a href="/wiki/Donald_Rumsfeld" title="Donald Rumsfeld">Donald Rumsfeld</a>, hvor det foregikk redigeringskriger i flere omganger. Noen av disse ville etter 3RR ha resultert i blokkering, men det ble her valgt å låse artikkelen i stedet, slik at de som kranglet kunne bruke diskusjonssiden til å komme til enighet. Dette er ikke de eneste eksemplene jeg har sett, men de jeg kommer på nå. <a href="/wiki/Bruker:Cnyborg" title="Bruker:Cnyborg">Cnyborg</a> 31. jan 2007 kl. 18:34 (CET)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="En_liten_selvmotsigelse" data-mw-thread-id="h-En_liten_selvmotsigelse"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-En_liten_selvmotsigelse"></span>En liten selvmotsigelse<span data-mw-comment-end="h-En_liten_selvmotsigelse"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia-diskusjon:Ikke_forstyrr_Wikipedia_for_%C3%A5_f%C3%A5_illustrert_et_poeng&action=edit&section=3" title="Rediger kildekoden til seksjonen En liten selvmotsigelse"><span>rediger kilde</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-En_liten_selvmotsigelse","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>I forslaget står det: </p> <ul><li><i>Hvis noen foreslår at Wikipedia bør bli et flertallsstyrt demokrati…</i> <ul><li><i>forklar at det er fullt mulig for wikipedianere å opprette sokkedukker og stemme flere ganger.</i></li></ul></li></ul> <p>Dette strider mot forslaget til retningslinjer for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sokkedukker" title="Wikipedia:Sokkedukker">sokkedukker</a>, der det står: </p><p><i>Wikipedia er intet demokrati, og rene avstemninger er svært sjeldne. Det kan likevel være nødvendig med avstemninger i noen tilfeller. Dessuten har flere prosesser på Wikipedia en form som minner om en blanding av en avstemning og en diskusjon (Wikipedia:Sletting og Wikipedia:Kandidatsider er to eksempler på dette).</i> </p><p><i>Ingen bruk av sokkedukker i slike prosesser godtas. Bruk av dette er blokkeringsgrunn og vil også føre til at ens synspunkter ikke vil bli tatt hensyn til.</i> </p><p>Jeg ser poenget her, men det bør vel kanskje omformuleres litt her i artikkelen. Ellers synes jeg forslaget ser ok ut. Det burde ikke være nødvendig med slike retningslinjer, men det er jo tydeligvis det, og da er det bra at de blir konkrete. --<a href="/wiki/Bruker:Blue_Elf" title="Bruker:Blue Elf">Blue Elf</a> 31. jan 2007 kl. 15:11 (CET) </p> <dl><dd>Jeg har omformulert setningen, tror det er bedre nå. <a href="/wiki/Bruker:Cnyborg" title="Bruker:Cnyborg">Cnyborg</a> 31. jan 2007 kl. 15:33 (CET)</dd></dl> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐f69cdc8f6‐lt4nx Cached time: 20241123044425 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.011 seconds CPU time usage: 0.018 seconds Real time usage: 0.029 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 18/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 0/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 0/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 2/100 Expensive parser function count: 0/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 0/5000000 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 0.000 1 -total --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key nowiki:pcache:165707:|#|:idhash:canonical and timestamp 20241123044425 and revision id 21523198. 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