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class="clickchap" style="color:#001320" title="Click any translation name for full chapter">  (Click for Chapter)</a></div><div id="par"><a href="/niv/john/17.htm">New International Version</a> And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began. <a href="/nlt/john/17.htm">New Living Translation</a> Now, Father, bring me into the glory we shared before the world began. <a href="/esv/john/17.htm">English Standard Version</a> And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed. <a href="/bsb/john/17.htm">Berean Standard Bible</a> And now, Father, glorify Me in Your presence with the glory I had with You before the world existed. <a href="/blb/john/17.htm">Berean Literal Bible</a> And now glorify Me, You Father, with Yourself, with the glory that I had with You before the world existed. <a href="/kjv/john/17.htm">King James Bible</a> And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. <a href="/nkjv/john/17.htm">New King James Version</a> And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was. <a href="/nasb_/john/17.htm">New American Standard Bible</a> And now You, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world existed. <a href="/nasb/john/17.htm">NASB 1995</a> &#8220Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was. <a href="/nasb77/john/17.htm">NASB 1977 </a> “And now, glorify Thou Me together with Thyself, Father, with the glory which I had with Thee before the world was. <a href="/lsb/john/17.htm">Legacy Standard Bible </a> Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was. <a href="/amp/john/17.htm">Amplified Bible</a> Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory and majesty that I had with You before the world existed. <a href="/csb/john/17.htm">Christian Standard Bible</a> Now, Father, glorify me in your presence with that glory I had with you before the world existed. <a href="/hcsb/john/17.htm">Holman Christian Standard Bible</a> Now, Father, glorify Me in Your presence with that glory I had with You before the world existed. <a href="/asv/john/17.htm">American Standard Version</a> And now, Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. <a href="/cev/john/17.htm">Contemporary English Version</a> Now, Father, give me back the glory I had with you before the world was created. <a href="/erv/john/17.htm">English Revised Version</a> And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. <a href="/gwt/john/17.htm">GOD'S WORD® Translation</a> Now, Father, give me glory in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world existed. <a href="/gnt/john/17.htm">Good News Translation</a> Father! Give me glory in your presence now, the same glory I had with you before the world was made. <a href="/isv/john/17.htm">International Standard Version</a> "So now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world existed. <a href="/msb/john/17.htm">Majority Standard Bible</a> And now, Father, glorify Me in Your presence with the glory I had with You before the world existed. <a href="/net/john/17.htm">NET Bible</a> And now, Father, glorify me at your side with the glory I had with you before the world was created. <a href="/nheb/john/17.htm">New Heart English Bible</a> Now, Father, glorify me with your own self with the glory which I had with you before the world existed. <a href="/wbt/john/17.htm">Webster's Bible Translation</a> And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thy ownself, with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. <a href="/wey/john/17.htm">Weymouth New Testament</a> And now, Father, do Thou glorify me in Thine own presence, with the glory that I had in Thy presence before the world existed. <a href="/web/john/17.htm">World English Bible</a> Now, Father, glorify me with your own self with the glory which I had with you before the world existed. <div class="vheading2">Literal Translations</div><a href="/lsv/john/17.htm">Literal Standard Version</a> And now, glorify Me, You Father, with Yourself, with the glory that I had with You before the world was; <a href="/blb/john/17.htm">Berean Literal Bible</a> And now glorify Me, You Father, with Yourself, with the glory that I had with You before the world existed. <a href="/ylt/john/17.htm">Young's Literal Translation</a> 'And now, glorify me, Thou Father, with Thyself, with the glory that I had before the world was, with Thee; <a href="/slt/john/17.htm">Smith's Literal Translation</a> And now, honour thou me, O Father, with thyself, with the honour which I had with thee before the world was.<div class="vheading2">Catholic Translations</div><a href="/drb/john/17.htm">Douay-Rheims Bible</a> And now glorify thou me, O Father, with thyself, with the glory which I had, before the world was, with thee. <a href="/cpdv/john/17.htm">Catholic Public Domain Version</a> And now Father, glorify me within yourself, with the glory that I had with you before the world ever was. <a href="/nabre/john/17.htm">New American Bible</a> Now glorify me, Father, with you, with the glory that I had with you before the world began. <a href="/nrsvce/john/17.htm">New Revised Standard Version</a> So now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had in your presence before the world existed.<div class="vheading2">Translations from Aramaic</div><a href="/lamsa/john/17.htm">Lamsa Bible</a> So now, O my Father, glorify me with you, with the same glory which I had with you before the world was made. <a href="/aramaic-plain-english/john/17.htm">Aramaic Bible in Plain English</a> “Now, glorify me, my Father, in union with yourself, in that glory which I had in union with you before the universe was.”<div class="vheading2">NT Translations</div><a href="/anderson/john/17.htm">Anderson New Testament</a> And now, Father, glorify me with thyself, with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.<CM> <a href="/godbey/john/17.htm">Godbey New Testament</a> <FR>And now, Father, glorify thou me with thyself with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.<Fr> <a href="/haweis/john/17.htm">Haweis New Testament</a> And now, Father, do thou glorify me with thyself in the glory which I held with thee before the world was. <a href="/mace/john/17.htm">Mace New Testament</a> and now, O father, glorify me in heaven, with the glory which I had before the creation of the world. <a href="/wey/john/17.htm">Weymouth New Testament</a> And now, Father, do Thou glorify me in Thine own presence, with the glory that I had in Thy presence before the world existed. <a href="/worrell/john/17.htm">Worrell New Testament</a> <FR>And, now, Father, glorify Thou Me with Thine Own Self, with the glory which I had with Thee before the world was.<Fr> <a href="/worsley/john/17.htm">Worsley New Testament</a> <FR>and now, O Father, glorify Thou me with thine own self, with the glory which I had with Thee before the world was <Fr>made. <a href="/parallel/john/17-5.htm">Additional Translations ...</a></div></div></div><div id="centbox"><div class="padcent"><a name="audio" id="audio"></a><div class="vheadingv">Audio Bible</div><iframe width="100%" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ixy2bchmXZ0?start=6013" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe> <div class="vheadingv">Context</div><a href="/bsb/john/17.htm">Prayer for the Son</a> …4I have glorified You on earth by accomplishing the work You gave Me to do. 5<a href="/greek/2532.htm" title="2532: kai (Conj) -- And, even, also, namely. ">And</a> <a href="/greek/3568.htm" title="3568: nyn (Adv) -- A primary particle of present time; now; also as noun or adjective present or immediate.">now,</a> <a href="/greek/3962.htm" title="3962: Pater (N-VMS) -- Father, (Heavenly) Father, ancestor, elder, senior. Apparently a primary word; a father.">Father,</a> <a href="/greek/4771.htm" title="4771: sy (PPro-N2S) -- You. The person pronoun of the second person singular; thou."></a> <a href="/greek/1392.htm" title="1392: doxason (V-AMA-2S) -- To glorify, honor, bestow glory on. From doxa; to render glorious.">glorify</a> <a href="/greek/1473.htm" title="1473: me (PPro-A1S) -- I, the first-person pronoun. A primary pronoun of the first person I.">Me</a> <a href="/greek/3844.htm" title="3844: para (Prep) -- Gen: from; dat: beside, in the presence of; acc: alongside of. ">in</a> <a href="/greek/4572.htm" title="4572: seautō (PPro-DM2S) -- Of yourself. ">Your presence</a> <a href="/greek/3588.htm" title="3588: tē (Art-DFS) -- The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.">with the</a> <a href="/greek/1391.htm" title="1391: doxē (N-DFS) -- From the base of dokeo; glory, in a wide application.">glory</a> <a href="/greek/3739.htm" title="3739: hē (RelPro-DFS) -- Who, which, what, that. "></a> <a href="/greek/2192.htm" title="2192: eichon (V-IIA-1S) -- To have, hold, possess. Including an alternate form scheo skheh'-o; a primary verb; to hold.">I had</a> <a href="/greek/3844.htm" title="3844: para (Prep) -- Gen: from; dat: beside, in the presence of; acc: alongside of. ">with</a> <a href="/greek/4771.htm" title="4771: soi (PPro-D2S) -- You. The person pronoun of the second person singular; thou.">You</a> <a href="/greek/4253.htm" title="4253: pro (Prep) -- A primary preposition; fore, i.e. In front of, prior to.">before</a> <a href="/greek/3588.htm" title="3588: ton (Art-AMS) -- The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.">the</a> <a href="/greek/2889.htm" title="2889: kosmon (N-AMS) -- Probably from the base of komizo; orderly arrangement, i.e. Decoration; by implication, the world (morally).">world</a> <a href="/greek/3588.htm" title="3588: tou (Art-GNS) -- The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the."></a> <a href="/greek/1510.htm" title="1510: einai (V-PNA) -- I am, exist. The first person singular present indicative; a prolonged form of a primary and defective verb; I exist.">existed. </a> 6I have revealed Your name to those You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours; You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word.…<div class="cred"><a href="//berean.bible">Berean Standard Bible</a> · <a href="//berean.bible/downloads.htm">Download</a></div> <a name="crossref" id="crossref"></a><div class="vheading">Cross References</div><div id="crf"><a href="/john/1-1.htm">John 1:1-3</a> In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. / He was with God in the beginning. / Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made. <a href="/philippians/2-6.htm">Philippians 2:6-7</a> Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, / but emptied Himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in human likeness. <a href="/colossians/1-16.htm">Colossians 1:16-17</a> For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him. / He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. <a href="/hebrews/1-2.htm">Hebrews 1:2-3</a> But in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe. / The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of His nature, upholding all things by His powerful word. After He had provided purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high. <a href="/john/8-58.htm">John 8:58</a> “Truly, truly, I tell you,” Jesus declared, “before Abraham was born, I am!” <a href="/john/1-14.htm">John 1:14</a> The Word became flesh and made His dwelling among us. We have seen His glory, the glory of the one and only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. <a href="/john/6-62.htm">John 6:62</a> Then what will happen if you see the Son of Man ascend to where He was before? <a href="/john/3-13.htm">John 3:13</a> No one has ascended into heaven except the One who descended from heaven—the Son of Man. <a href="/john/16-28.htm">John 16:28</a> I came from the Father and entered the world. In turn, I will leave the world and go to the Father.” <a href="/1_corinthians/8-6.htm">1 Corinthians 8:6</a> yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we exist. And there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we exist. <a href="/revelation/1-8.htm">Revelation 1:8</a> “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, who is and was and is to come—the Almighty. <a href="/micah/5-2.htm">Micah 5:2</a> But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, who are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come forth for Me One to be ruler over Israel—One whose origins are of old, from the days of eternity. <a href="/isaiah/9-6.htm">Isaiah 9:6</a> For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and the government will be upon His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. <a href="/proverbs/8-22.htm">Proverbs 8:22-30</a> The LORD created me as His first course, before His works of old. / From everlasting I was established, from the beginning, before the earth began. / When there were no watery depths, I was brought forth, when no springs were overflowing with water. ... <a href="/daniel/7-13.htm">Daniel 7:13-14</a> In my vision in the night I continued to watch, and I saw One like the Son of Man coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into His presence. / And He was given dominion, glory, and kingship, that the people of every nation and language should serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and His kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.</div> <a name="tsk" id="tsk"><div class="vheading">Treasury of Scripture</div>And now, O Father, glorify you me with your own self with the glory which I had with you before the world was.glorify.<a href="/john/17-24.htm">John 17:24</a> Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.<a href="/john/1-18.htm">John 1:18</a> No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.<a href="/john/3-13.htm">John 3:13</a> And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.before.<a href="/john/1-1.htm">John 1:1-3</a> In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God… <a href="/matthew/25-34.htm">Matthew 25:34</a> Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:<a href="/1_peter/1-20.htm">1 Peter 1:20</a> Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,<div class="vheading">Jump to Previous</div><a href="/john/1-30.htm">Existed</a> <a href="/john/17-4.htm">Glorify</a> <a href="/john/17-4.htm">Glory</a> <a href="/john/16-27.htm">Presence</a> <a href="/john/5-30.htm">Self</a> <a href="/john/14-22.htm">Thyself</a> <a href="/john/12-10.htm">Together</a> <a href="/john/16-33.htm">World</a><div class="vheading2">Jump to Next</div><a href="/philippians/2-6.htm">Existed</a> <a href="/john/21-19.htm">Glorify</a> <a href="/john/17-10.htm">Glory</a> <a href="/john/17-8.htm">Presence</a> <a href="/romans/6-6.htm">Self</a> <a href="/john/18-34.htm">Thyself</a> <a href="/john/19-2.htm">Together</a> <a href="/john/17-6.htm">World</a><div class="vheading2">John 17</div>1. <a href="/john/17-1.htm">Jesus prays to his Father.</a> </div></div><div id="mdd"><div align="center"><div class="bot2"><table align="center" width="100%"><tr><td><div align="center"> <script id="3d27ed63fc4348d5b062c4527ae09445"> (new Image()).src = 'https://capi.connatix.com/tr/si?token=51ce25d5-1a8c-424a-8695-4bd48c750f35&cid=3a9f82d0-4344-4f8d-ac0c-e1a0eb43a405'; </script> <script id="b817b7107f1d4a7997da1b3c33457e03"> (new Image()).src = 'https://capi.connatix.com/tr/si?token=cb0edd8b-b416-47eb-8c6d-3cc96561f7e8&cid=3a9f82d0-4344-4f8d-ac0c-e1a0eb43a405'; </script>  <div id='div-gpt-ad-1529103594582-2'> </div>  <div id='div-gpt-ad-1529103594582-0' style='max-width: 300px;'> </div>  <div id='div-gpt-ad-1529103594582-3'> </div>  <div id='div-gpt-ad-1529103594582-1' style='max-width: 300px;'> </div>  <div align="center" id='div-gpt-ad-1531425649696-0'> </div> <ins class="adsbygoogle" style="display:inline-block;width:200px;height:200px" data-ad-client="ca-pub-3753401421161123" data-ad-slot="3592799687"></ins> <script> (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); </script> </div> </td></tr></table></div></div></div><div id="combox"><div class="padcom"><a name="study" id="study"></a><div class="vheading"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="99%" valign="top"><a href="/study/john/17.htm">Study Bible</a></td><td width="1%" valign="top"><a href="/study/john/" title="Book Summary and Study">Book ◦</a> <a href="/study/chapters/john/17.htm" title="Chapter summary and Study">Chapter </a></tr></table></div>And now, Father, This phrase indicates a transition in Jesus' prayer, moving from His intercession for His disciples to a personal request. The term "Father" reflects the intimate relationship between Jesus and God, emphasizing His divine sonship. This relationship is central to understanding the nature of the Trinity, where Jesus is distinct yet one with the Father.glorify Me in Your presence Jesus is asking for the restoration of His divine glory, which He temporarily set aside during His earthly ministry (<a href="/philippians/2-6.htm">Philippians 2:6-8</a>). This request is not for a new glory but a return to His pre-incarnate state. The concept of glory in the biblical context often refers to the visible manifestation of God's presence and majesty.with the glory I had with You This phrase underscores the pre-existence of Christ, affirming His deity and eternal nature. It connects to passages like <a href="/john/1.htm">John 1:1-3</a>, which speak of the Word being with God in the beginning. The shared glory indicates the unity and equality within the Godhead, a foundational doctrine in Christian theology.before the world existed. This highlights the eternal nature of Christ, existing before creation, which aligns with <a href="/colossians/1-16.htm">Colossians 1:16-17</a>, where Christ is described as the agent of creation. It also reflects the concept of Jesus as the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world (<a href="/revelation/13-8.htm">Revelation 13:8</a>), indicating God's eternal plan of redemption. This pre-existence is a key element in understanding the divine nature of Jesus and His role in salvation history.<div class="vheading2">Persons / Places / Events</div>1. <a href="/topical/j/jesus_christ.htm">Jesus Christ</a> The speaker of this verse, Jesus is praying to God the Father. This prayer is part of what is known as the High Priestly Prayer, where Jesus intercedes for Himself, His disciples, and future believers. 2. <a href="/topical/g/god_the_father.htm">God the Father</a> The recipient of Jesus' prayer. The relationship between Jesus and the Father is central to this verse, highlighting the pre-existence and divine nature of Christ. 3. <a href="/topical/t/the_world.htm">The World</a> Refers to the created order, emphasizing the pre-existence of Christ before creation. 4. <a href="/topical/g/glory.htm">Glory</a> A key theme in this verse, referring to the divine majesty and honor that Jesus shared with the Father before the incarnation. 5. <a href="/topical/p/pre-existence.htm">Pre-existence</a> The concept that Jesus existed with God the Father before the creation of the world, underscoring His divinity and eternal nature.<div class="vheading2">Teaching Points</div><a href="/topical/t/the_divinity_of_christ.htm">The Divinity of Christ</a> This verse affirms the divine nature of Jesus, who shared glory with the Father before the world began. Understanding this helps believers recognize the authority and majesty of Christ. <a href="/topical/t/the_pre-existence_of_christ.htm">The Pre-existence of Christ</a> Jesus' existence before creation underscores His eternal nature, encouraging believers to trust in His unchanging character. <a href="/topical/t/the_glory_of_god.htm">The Glory of God</a> Believers are called to reflect on the glory of God and how it is revealed through Jesus. This should inspire worship and reverence. <a href="/topical/u/unity_with_the_father.htm">Unity with the Father</a> Jesus' prayer for glorification highlights His unity with the Father, serving as a model for believers to seek unity with God through Christ. <a href="/topical/e/eternal_perspective.htm">Eternal Perspective</a> Recognizing Jesus' eternal glory encourages believers to live with an eternal perspective, prioritizing spiritual over temporal matters.<div class="vheading2">Lists and Questions</div><a href="/top10/lessons_from_john_17.htm">Top 10 Lessons from John 17</a> <a href="/q/how_can_jesus_share_glory_pre-universe.htm">In John 17:5, how can Jesus claim to share glory “before the world existed” if science shows the universe had a singular origin billions of years ago? </a> <a href="/q/is_jesus_god's_only_form_in_oneness.htm">Is Jesus the sole manifestation of God in Oneness?</a> <a href="/q/what_defines_social_ethics.htm">Does God share His glory with others?</a> <a href="/q/how_does_micah_5_2_fit_a_human_lifespan.htm">Micah 5:2 speaks of a ruler “whose origin is from of old.” How can this be reconciled with a literal human birth and finite human lifespan? </a><a name="commentary" id="commentary"></a><div class="vheading2"><a href="/commentaries/ellicott/john/17.htm">Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers</a></div>(5) And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self.--These words are exactly parallel with the commencement of the previous verse. "I," "Thou," "Thee--Me," "on earth," "with Thine own self." (Comp. <a href="/context/john/13-31.htm" title="Therefore, when he was gone out, Jesus said, Now is the Son of man glorified, and God is glorified in him.">John 13:31-32</a>.)With the glory which I had with thee before the world was.--This clause admits of but one meaning--viz., that Jesus claimed for Himself the possession of the divine glory in His pre-existent state before the world was; and that He claimed this in personality distinct from, but in essence one with God. (Comp. <a href="/john/1-1.htm" title="In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.">John 1:1</a>; <a href="/john/1-18.htm" title="No man has seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he has declared him.">John 1:18</a>, and on the whole passage, Notes on <a href="/context/philippians/2-4.htm" title="Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.">Philippians 2:4-9</a>.) The special importance of the thought here is that it is uttered in the words of Christ Himself, and that these words are a prayer to the Father. There can be no explanation of <a href="/context/john/17-1.htm" title="These words spoke Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify your Son, that your Son also may glorify you:">John 17:1-5</a> of this chapter, which denies that our Lord Jesus Christ claimed for Himself that He was divine, and co-eternal with the Father. . . . <div class="vheading2"><a href="/commentaries/pulpit/john/17.htm">Pulpit Commentary</a></div>Verse 5. - And now (νῦν) - the very point of time has come - glorify thou me, O Father, explaining the opening of the prayer, "Glorify thy Son." He identifies his own Personality - "me" -with that of "the Son," and "thy Son." With thy own self (παρὰ σεαυτῷ); in closest connection and fellowship with thy-self - a relation which has been arrested or suspended since have been "Jesus Christ," and glorifying thee amid the toil and sorrow of this earthly pilgrimage. This immediate glorification of the Son embraces the glory of vicarious death, the triumphant resurrection, the mystery of ascension in the strength of his human memories to the right hand of God (<a href="/john/13-31.htm">John 13:31, 32</a>). He still further defines this wondrous prospect, as with the glory which I had with thee before the world was - before the being of the κόσμος παρὰ σεαυτῷ... παρὰ σοι Παρὰ in John represents local relationships (see <a href="/john/1-40.htm">John 1:40</a>; <a href="/john/4-40.htm">John 4:40</a>; <a href="/john/14-25.htm">John 14:25</a>; <a href="/revelation/2-13.htm">Revelation 2:13</a>) or intimate spiritual associations (<a href="/john/14.htm">John 14: </a>). So our Lord remembers and anticipates a "glory with the Father." That which he refers to as before the existence of the world has been softened down by Grotius, Wettstein, Schleiermacher, and some moderns to mean the glory of the Divine thought and destination concerning him; but the expression παρὰ σοι ισ far from being exhausted by such a rendering. He who wrote the prologue (<a href="/john/1-2.htm">John 1:2, 18</a>) meant that, as the Logos had been πρὸς τὸν Θέον and εἰς τὸν κόλπον τοῦ Πατρός, and at a special epoch "became flesh," the beamings forth of his glory on earth were those which belonged to human life, to the form of a servant, and were profoundly different from that μορφὴ Θεοῦ in which his innermost self-consciousness, the center of his Personality, originally dwelt. And now he seeks to carry this new appanage of his Sonship, this God-glorifying humanity, up into the glory of the pre-existent majesty (cf. <a href="/philippians/2-9.htm">Philippians 2:9</a>; <a href="/1_timothy/3-16.htm">1 Timothy 3:16</a>; <a href="/hebrews/1-8.htm">Hebrews 1:8, 13</a>). The δόξα which was visible to the disciples on earth (<a href="/john/1-14.htm">John 1:14</a>) was glory limited, colored, conditioned, by human life and death; but so complete was the Lord's union with the Logos, that it did not quench his memory of the glory of his omnipresent, eternal Being, nor his remembrance of absolute coexistence with the Father before all worlds. He would lift humanity to the very throne of God by its union with his Person. This stupendous claim both as to the past and future would be utterly bewildering if it stood alone; but the Old Testament has prepared the mind of the disciples for this great mystery (<a href="/proverbs/8.htm">Proverbs 8</a>; <a href="/isaiah/6.htm">Isaiah 6</a>.). The theophanies generally, and <a href="/john/8-25.htm">John 8:25</a> and <a href="/hebrews/1.htm">Hebrews 1</a>, with numerous other passages, sustain and corroborate the conception that the Logos of God was throughout all human history on the verge of manifestation in the flesh. The record of the extraordinary God-consciousness of Jesus does transcend all human experience, and baffles us at every turn; but the human consciousness of Jesus appears gradually to have come into such communion with the Logos who had become flesh in him, that he thought the veritable thoughts and felt the emotions of the eternal God as though they were absolutely his own. In addition to this idea of his resumption of his own eternal state, Lange and Moulton, in opposition to Meyer, lay emphasis on the answer to this prayer, consisting in such a manifestation of the premundane glory in his flesh, that it should perfectly establish the relation between the glory of the Father before all worlds, -rod the glory of utter and complete self-sacrifice for the redemption of the world. The glory of omnipotence and omnipresence is lost in the greater glory of infinite love. Thus the glory which he had with the Father would be best seen in the completion of his agony, the τετέλεσται of the cross. <a href="/commentaries/john/17-5.htm">Parallel Commentaries ...</a> <a name="lexicon" id="lexicon"></a><div class="vheading">Greek</div>And καὶ (kai) Conjunction <a href="/greek/strongs_2532.htm">Strong's 2532: </a> And, even, also, namely. now, νῦν (nyn) Adverb <a href="/greek/strongs_3568.htm">Strong's 3568: </a> A primary particle of present time; 'now'; also as noun or adjective present or immediate. Father, Πάτερ (Pater) Noun - Vocative Masculine Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_3962.htm">Strong's 3962: </a> Father, (Heavenly) Father, ancestor, elder, senior. Apparently a primary word; a 'father'. glorify δόξασόν (doxason) Verb - Aorist Imperative Active - 2nd Person Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_1392.htm">Strong's 1392: </a> To glorify, honor, bestow glory on. From doxa; to render glorious. Me με (me) Personal / Possessive Pronoun - Accusative 1st Person Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_1473.htm">Strong's 1473: </a> I, the first-person pronoun. A primary pronoun of the first person I. in παρὰ (para) Preposition <a href="/greek/strongs_3844.htm">Strong's 3844: </a> Gen: from; dat: beside, in the presence of; acc: alongside of. Your presence σεαυτῷ (seautō) Personal / Possessive Pronoun - Dative Masculine 2nd Person Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_4572.htm">Strong's 4572: </a> Of yourself. with the τῇ (tē) Article - Dative Feminine Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_3588.htm">Strong's 3588: </a> The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the. glory δόξῃ (doxē) Noun - Dative Feminine Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_1391.htm">Strong's 1391: </a> From the base of dokeo; glory, in a wide application. I had εἶχον (eichon) Verb - Imperfect Indicative Active - 1st Person Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_2192.htm">Strong's 2192: </a> To have, hold, possess. Including an alternate form scheo skheh'-o; a primary verb; to hold. with παρὰ (para) Preposition <a href="/greek/strongs_3844.htm">Strong's 3844: </a> Gen: from; dat: beside, in the presence of; acc: alongside of. You σοί (soi) Personal / Possessive Pronoun - Dative 2nd Person Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_4771.htm">Strong's 4771: </a> You. The person pronoun of the second person singular; thou. before πρὸ (pro) Preposition <a href="/greek/strongs_4253.htm">Strong's 4253: </a> A primary preposition; 'fore', i.e. In front of, prior to. the τὸν (ton) Article - Accusative Masculine Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_3588.htm">Strong's 3588: </a> The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the. world κόσμον (kosmon) Noun - Accusative Masculine Singular <a href="/greek/strongs_2889.htm">Strong's 2889: </a> Probably from the base of komizo; orderly arrangement, i.e. Decoration; by implication, the world (morally). existed. εἶναι (einai) Verb - Present Infinitive Active <a href="/greek/strongs_1510.htm">Strong's 1510: </a> I am, exist. 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