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scale</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Roadrunner3000-2005-11-30T23:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-TV_logos-2005-11-30T23:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Roadrunner3000-2005-11-30T23:20:00.000Z-TV_logos&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;TV logos&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;TV logos&quot;}--><h2 id="TV_logos" data-mw-thread-id="h-TV_logos-2005-11-30T23:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-TV_logos-2005-11-30T23:20:00.000Z"></span>TV logos<span data-mw-comment-end="h-TV_logos-2005-11-30T23:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Roadrunner3000-2005-11-30T23:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-TV_logos-2005-11-30T23:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Roadrunner3000-2005-11-30T23:20:00.000Z-TV_logos&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;TV logos&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;TV logos&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Roadrunner3000-2005-11-30T23:20:00.000Z-TV_logos"></span>I believe the logos corresponding to the subjects, should be added because the <a href="/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_television_contracts" class="mw-redirect" title="Major League Baseball television contracts">MLB TV Contracts</a> page has made use of of this.--<a href="/wiki/User:Roadrunner3000" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Roadrunner3000">Roadrunner3000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-Roadrunner3000-2005-11-30T23:20:00.000Z-TV_logos" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:20, 30 November 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Roadrunner3000-2005-11-30T23:20:00.000Z-TV_logos"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-11-30T23:20:00.000Z","author":"Roadrunner3000","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Roadrunner3000-2005-11-30T23:20:00.000Z-TV_logos","replies":["c-Zzyzx11-2005-12-01T00:30:00.000Z-Roadrunner3000-2005-11-30T23:20:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Roadrunner3000-2005-11-30T23:20:00.000Z-TV_logos"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zzyzx11-2005-12-01T00:30:00.000Z-Roadrunner3000-2005-11-30T23:20:00.000Z"></span>Whatever... by the way, I will probably restructure major portions of this article so it does resemble parts of <a href="/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_television_contracts" class="mw-redirect" title="Major League Baseball television contracts">Major League Baseball television contracts</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Zzyzx11" title="User:Zzyzx11">Zzyzx11</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zzyzx11" title="User talk:Zzyzx11">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-Zzyzx11-2005-12-01T00:30:00.000Z-Roadrunner3000-2005-11-30T23:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:30, 1 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zzyzx11-2005-12-01T00:30:00.000Z-Roadrunner3000-2005-11-30T23:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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summarise&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Please summarise&quot;}--><h2 id="Please_summarise" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_summarise-2005-12-22T16:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_summarise-2005-12-22T16:39:00.000Z"></span>Please summarise<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_summarise-2005-12-22T16:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: Please summarise"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Calsicol-2005-12-22T16:39:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Please_summarise-2005-12-22T16:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Calsicol-2005-12-22T16:39:00.000Z-Please_summarise"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Calsicol-2005-12-22T16:39:00.000Z-Please_summarise","timestamp":"2005-12-22T16:39:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Calsicol-2005-12-22T16:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Please_summarise-2005-12-22T16:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Calsicol-2005-12-22T16:39:00.000Z-Please_summarise&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Please summarise&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Please summarise&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Calsicol-2005-12-22T16:39:00.000Z-Please_summarise"></span>Please summarise the present situation, ie the annual value of the contracts now in force, possibly in a little table. I guess all the information is here, but for a non-American with little background knowledge it is pretty hard to interpret. <a href="/wiki/User:Calsicol" title="User:Calsicol">Calsicol</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-Calsicol-2005-12-22T16:39:00.000Z-Please_summarise" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:39, 22 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Calsicol-2005-12-22T16:39:00.000Z-Please_summarise"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-22T16:39:00.000Z","author":"Calsicol","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Calsicol-2005-12-22T16:39:00.000Z-Please_summarise","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Calsicol-2005-12-22T16:39:00.000Z-Please_summarise"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Merge-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z-Merge&quot;,&quot;c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-09T00:45:00.000Z-Merge&quot;,&quot;c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-16T01:23:00.000Z-Merge&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Merge&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Merge&quot;}--><h2 id="Merge" data-mw-thread-id="h-Merge-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Merge-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z"></span>Merge<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Merge-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section: Merge"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Merge-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z-Merge","c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-09T00:45:00.000Z-Merge","c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-16T01:23:00.000Z-Merge"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-18T03:46:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-16T01:23:00.000Z","timestamp":"2006-01-18T03:46:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__8__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Merge-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z-Merge&quot;,&quot;c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-09T00:45:00.000Z-Merge&quot;,&quot;c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-16T01:23:00.000Z-Merge&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Merge&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Merge&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z-Merge"></span>No. You can begin a history of the NFL on television, and do a contract-by-contract and historical backstory on this subject and include the information after the 2006 season begins. Currently, we are doing what in essence is a preview of events for the next NFL season. <a href="/wiki/User:NoseNuggets" title="User:NoseNuggets">NoseNuggets</a> 7:23 US EST Jan 6 2006. </p> <ul><li>The problem is that most of the content you are writing there is already here ... rather redundant. <a href="/wiki/User:Zzyzx11" title="User:Zzyzx11">Zzyzx11</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zzyzx11" title="User talk:Zzyzx11">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z-Merge" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:55, 7 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z-Merge"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z","author":"Zzyzx11","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z-Merge","replies":["c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T01:17:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z-Merge"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T01:17:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z"></span>Although you first placed that content there on <a href="/wiki/2006_NFL_season" title="2006 NFL season">2006 NFL season</a> today <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2006_NFL_season&amp;diff=34178633&amp;oldid=34172952">[1]</a>, this information has already been on this <i>NFL on television</i> article in one form or another for several months <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NFL_on_television&amp;diff=12917621&amp;oldid=12779727">[2]</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Zzyzx11" title="User:Zzyzx11">Zzyzx11</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zzyzx11" title="User talk:Zzyzx11">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T01:17:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:17, 7 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T01:17:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-07T01:17:00.000Z","author":"Zzyzx11","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T01:17:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-09T06:03:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T01:17:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T01:17:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T00:55:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-09T06:03:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T01:17:00.000Z"></span>How about this: I am willing to only list on <a href="/wiki/2006_NFL_season" title="2006 NFL season">2006 NFL season</a> what the TV coverage will be during <b>that year</b>, but details on the overall TV contracts will be, including the last paragraph on who will televise the Pro Bowl in 2007 on, should be placed on this NFL on television article. <a href="/wiki/User:Zzyzx11" title="User:Zzyzx11">Zzyzx11</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zzyzx11" title="User talk:Zzyzx11">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-09T06:03:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T01:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:03, 9 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-09T06:03:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T01:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-09T06:03:00.000Z","author":"Zzyzx11","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-09T06:03:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T01:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-09T06:03:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-07T01:17:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-09T00:45:00.000Z-Merge"></span>It is good where it is - sly fox <small>—<i>The preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sign_your_posts_on_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages">unsigned</a> comment was added by</i> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:68.155.205.89&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:68.155.205.89 (page does not exist)">68.155.205.89</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:68.155.205.89" title="User talk:68.155.205.89">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/68.155.205.89" title="Special:Contributions/68.155.205.89">contribs</a>) .</small> </p> <ul><li>Why? <a href="/wiki/User:Zzyzx11" title="User:Zzyzx11">Zzyzx11</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zzyzx11" title="User talk:Zzyzx11">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-09T00:45:00.000Z-Merge" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:45, 9 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-09T00:45:00.000Z-Merge"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-09T00:45:00.000Z","author":"Zzyzx11","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-09T00:45:00.000Z-Merge","replies":["c-Jcbarr-2006-01-14T05:23:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-09T00:45:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-09T00:45:00.000Z-Merge"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcbarr-2006-01-14T05:23:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-09T00:45:00.000Z"></span>I'd say because there are major changes <b>in 2006</b>, so there has to be something in the 2006 article to let folks know. This could probably be reduced here, with link to the TV article, but there has to be some duplication of content to give info where folks will look for it. -<a href="/wiki/User:Jcbarr" title="User:Jcbarr">Jcbarr</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-Jcbarr-2006-01-14T05:23:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-09T00:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:23, 14 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcbarr-2006-01-14T05:23:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-09T00:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-14T05:23:00.000Z","author":"Jcbarr","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jcbarr-2006-01-14T05:23:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-09T00:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-14T17:28:00.000Z-Jcbarr-2006-01-14T05:23:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcbarr-2006-01-14T05:23:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-09T00:45:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-14T17:28:00.000Z-Jcbarr-2006-01-14T05:23:00.000Z"></span>Yes, I think there should be a compromise, but most of details of the contracts itself, including who will televise what in 200<b>7</b> and beyond should be placed on the TV article. <a href="/wiki/User:Zzyzx11" title="User:Zzyzx11">Zzyzx11</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zzyzx11" title="User talk:Zzyzx11">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-14T17:28:00.000Z-Jcbarr-2006-01-14T05:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:28, 14 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-14T17:28:00.000Z-Jcbarr-2006-01-14T05:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-14T17:28:00.000Z","author":"Zzyzx11","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-14T17:28:00.000Z-Jcbarr-2006-01-14T05:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-14T17:28:00.000Z-Jcbarr-2006-01-14T05:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-16T01:23:00.000Z-Merge"></span>No merge. This article will still be needed once the 2006 NFL season starts, so why not keep it here where more people are likly to type in 2006 NFL Season then 2006 NFL Season and Televison? -SAS- 15 January 2006 16:38 Eastern <small>—<i>The preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sign_your_posts_on_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages">unsigned</a> comment was added by</i> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:66.59.114.196&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:66.59.114.196 (page does not exist)">66.59.114.196</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:66.59.114.196&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:66.59.114.196 (page does not exist)">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/66.59.114.196" title="Special:Contributions/66.59.114.196">contribs</a>) .</small> </p> <ul><li>Since you wrote this as an unlogged anonymous user, you may be unfamilar with the merge tag, in that it says "It has been suggested that this <b>article or section</b> be merged" (emphasis added). In order to save disk space, we use the same tag whenever we want to merge an article or just a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Section" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Section">section of an article</a>. Because, in this case, the tag was placed at the start of an article's section instead of the top of the article, it indicates that it only has been proposed to merge the "television" section, not the entire 2006 NFL season article itself. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Zzyzx11" title="User:Zzyzx11">Zzyzx11</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zzyzx11" title="User talk:Zzyzx11">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-16T01:23:00.000Z-Merge" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:23, 16 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-16T01:23:00.000Z-Merge"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-16T01:23:00.000Z","author":"Zzyzx11","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-16T01:23:00.000Z-Merge","replies":["c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-18T03:46:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-16T01:23:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-16T01:23:00.000Z-Merge"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-18T03:46:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-16T01:23:00.000Z"></span>Since there is no further objections, I will try to merge the content based on <a href="/wiki/User:Jcbarr" title="User:Jcbarr">Jcbarr</a>'s suggestion. <a href="/wiki/User:Zzyzx11" title="User:Zzyzx11">Zzyzx11</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zzyzx11" title="User talk:Zzyzx11">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-18T03:46:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-16T01:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:46, 18 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zzyzx11-2006-01-18T03:46:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2006-01-16T01:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:41:00.000Z-Giants_vs_Jets_Scheduling","timestamp":"2007-02-22T01:41:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Giants_vs_Jets_Scheduling-2007-02-22T01:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:41:00.000Z-Giants_vs_Jets_Scheduling&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Giants vs Jets Scheduling&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Giants vs Jets Scheduling&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:41:00.000Z-Giants_vs_Jets_Scheduling"></span>The statement "The Giants and Jets are never scheduled against each other, primarily because they share a stadium and usually alternate home games." is inaccurate [<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_on_television#Sunday_regional_coverage">Sunday regional coverage</a>]. Perhaps it was making another point, but worded incorrectly. Under NFL scheduling rules, teams play every team in the other conference once every 4 years. They last played in [<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/teams/schedule?team=nyg&amp;year=2003">2003</a>] and are scheduled again for [<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://giants.com/gameday/GiantsRegularSeasonOpponentsfor20042009.asp">2007</a>] </p><p>No, the person meant that their games are never scheduled against each other. The Giants and Jets never play at the same time or on the same channel on the same day (unless they're playing each other). They certainly do play each other every four years. The Giants will, in fact, "host" the Jets in 2007. The game will be on CBS, NBC, ESPN, or the NFL Network. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:76.21.45.13&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:76.21.45.13 (page does not exist)">76.21.45.13</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:41:00.000Z-Giants_vs_Jets_Scheduling" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:41, 22 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:41:00.000Z-Giants_vs_Jets_Scheduling"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-02-22T01:41:00.000Z","author":"76.21.45.13","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:41:00.000Z-Giants_vs_Jets_Scheduling","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:41:00.000Z-Giants_vs_Jets_Scheduling"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Is_there_a_conspiracy_between_Fox_and_DirectTV?-2007-02-22T01:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:43:00.000Z-Is_there_a_conspiracy_between_Fox_and_DirectTV?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Is there a conspiracy between Fox and DirectTV?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Is there a conspiracy between Fox and DirectTV?&quot;}--><h2 id="Is_there_a_conspiracy_between_Fox_and_DirectTV?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Is_there_a_conspiracy_between_Fox_and_DirectTV?-2007-02-22T01:43:00.000Z"><span id="Is_there_a_conspiracy_between_Fox_and_DirectTV.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Is_there_a_conspiracy_between_Fox_and_DirectTV?-2007-02-22T01:43:00.000Z"></span>Is there a conspiracy between Fox and DirectTV?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Is_there_a_conspiracy_between_Fox_and_DirectTV?-2007-02-22T01:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=5" title="Edit section: Is there a conspiracy between Fox and DirectTV?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:43:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Is_there_a_conspiracy_between_Fox_and_DirectTV?-2007-02-22T01:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:43:00.000Z-Is_there_a_conspiracy_between_Fox_and_DirectTV?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:43:00.000Z-Is_there_a_conspiracy_between_Fox_and_DirectTV?","timestamp":"2007-02-22T01:43:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Is_there_a_conspiracy_between_Fox_and_DirectTV?-2007-02-22T01:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:43:00.000Z-Is_there_a_conspiracy_between_Fox_and_DirectTV?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Is there a conspiracy between Fox and DirectTV?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Is there a conspiracy between Fox and DirectTV?&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:43:00.000Z-Is_there_a_conspiracy_between_Fox_and_DirectTV?"></span>Recently, I heard that News Corporation, the owner of the Fox network, has aquired DirecTV. Around this time, I became a lot less satisfied of the selection of Sunday afternoon games shown by my local Fox station, KTTV of Los Angeles. Los Angeles is not an NFL market area, so KTTV/Fox has a lot of leeway in selecting what games to show. The games I find important are usually played between teams of the NFC West (49'ers, Rams &amp; Seahawks). </p><p>Since the Fox/DirecTV "merger", it seams KTTV/Fox selects games to show from the other 3 NFC divisions, ignoring the NFC West. I would think the LA area would be more interested in NFC West games, with the upstate 49'ers, a former LA team in the Rams and the defending conference champion Seahawks. For someone in LA, the only way to get these games on TV is with....you guessed it....DirecTv's NFL Sunday Ticket. </p><p>In other words, is KTTV/Fox selecting games outside of my regional area to broadcast so I would be more inclined to purchase Sunday Ticket at $200+ a season on top of subscribing to DirecTV? Let me hear about your area. If you live on the east coast, is your local Fox station showing nothing but games between west coat teams? If you live near Canada, does Fox show nothing but the NFC South? </p><p>Do I see a pattern here? </p><p><br/> Anything's possible, but I doubt it. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:76.21.45.13&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:76.21.45.13 (page does not exist)">76.21.45.13</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:43:00.000Z-Is_there_a_conspiracy_between_Fox_and_DirectTV?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:43, 22 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:43:00.000Z-Is_there_a_conspiracy_between_Fox_and_DirectTV?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-02-22T01:43:00.000Z","author":"76.21.45.13","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:43:00.000Z-Is_there_a_conspiracy_between_Fox_and_DirectTV?","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:43:00.000Z-Is_there_a_conspiracy_between_Fox_and_DirectTV?"></span> </p><p>I live in SF Bay Area with Directv the Local Fox KTVU. I dont have NFL Sunday Ticket due to the fact that oakland raiders home games are blackout and i never can see the home games. Also am thinking to my self why do they black out Oakland home games but they dont black out 49ers games..49ers dont sell out but they still show the games. Here are Some exaples of what they played this season on my fox expect for 49ers games. St Louis, Philadelphia, Seattle, NY Giants, Chicago, Atlanta Tampa Bay,Dallas, Green Bay, Tennessee. I rarley see az cardinals, Seattle Seahawks every few weeks, St. Louis Rams every few weeks.. on cbs i hardly see Chargers Chiefs Broncos </p> <pre><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Apwfan69&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Apwfan69 (page does not exist)">apwfan69</a> 01:00, 09 Nov 2008 (pst) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.138.136.104" title="Special:Contributions/71.138.136.104">71.138.136.104</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:71.138.136.104&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:71.138.136.104 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) </span> </pre> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-WizardDuck-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-NFL_Jingles-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-WizardDuck-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z-NFL_Jingles&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;NFL Jingles&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;NFL Jingles&quot;}--><h2 id="NFL_Jingles" data-mw-thread-id="h-NFL_Jingles-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-NFL_Jingles-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z"></span>NFL Jingles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-NFL_Jingles-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=6" title="Edit section: NFL Jingles"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-WizardDuck-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-NFL_Jingles-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-WizardDuck-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z-NFL_Jingles"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-WizardDuck-2007-12-07T04:39:00.000Z-Jayron32-2006-11-29T04:43:00.000Z","timestamp":"2007-12-07T04:39:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-WizardDuck-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-NFL_Jingles-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-WizardDuck-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z-NFL_Jingles&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;NFL Jingles&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;NFL Jingles&quot;}--></div></div></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WizardDuck-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z-NFL_Jingles"></span>Continuing on from NFL's talk page: Videos of the NFL Jingle tags (NBC, CBS &amp; Fox at the moment) being used are *not* being uploaded. They have been taken from TV broadcasts. <a href="/wiki/User:WizardDuck" title="User:WizardDuck">WizardDuck</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-WizardDuck-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z-NFL_Jingles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:07, 29 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WizardDuck-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z-NFL_Jingles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z","author":"WizardDuck","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-WizardDuck-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z-NFL_Jingles","replies":["c-Jayron32-2006-11-29T04:43:00.000Z-WizardDuck-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WizardDuck-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z-NFL_Jingles"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jayron32-2006-11-29T04:43:00.000Z-WizardDuck-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z"></span>One concern. It might want to be brought up in policy discussions. Videos and jingles <i>may not</i> be covered under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FAIR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FAIR">fair use policies</a>. Not sure how to handle these. May be helpful to the article, but be careful on copyright violations. I am iffy on how this works... --<a href="/wiki/User:Jayron32" title="User:Jayron32">Jayron</a><a href="/wiki/User:Jayron32/Esperanza" title="User:Jayron32/Esperanza"><span style="color:#00FF00;">32</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-Jayron32-2006-11-29T04:43:00.000Z-WizardDuck-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:43, 29 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jayron32-2006-11-29T04:43:00.000Z-WizardDuck-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-11-29T04:43:00.000Z","author":"Jayron32","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jayron32-2006-11-29T04:43:00.000Z-WizardDuck-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-WizardDuck-2007-12-07T04:39:00.000Z-Jayron32-2006-11-29T04:43:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Jayron"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jayron32-2006-11-29T04:43:00.000Z-WizardDuck-2006-11-29T00:07:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WizardDuck-2007-12-07T04:39:00.000Z-Jayron32-2006-11-29T04:43:00.000Z"></span>I removed them. It's been over a year since the topic was brought up, though. <a href="/wiki/User:WizardDuck" title="User:WizardDuck">WizardDuck</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WizardDuck" title="User talk:WizardDuck">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-WizardDuck-2007-12-07T04:39:00.000Z-Jayron32-2006-11-29T04:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:39, 7 December 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WizardDuck-2007-12-07T04:39:00.000Z-Jayron32-2006-11-29T04:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-12-07T04:39:00.000Z","author":"WizardDuck","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-WizardDuck-2007-12-07T04:39:00.000Z-Jayron32-2006-11-29T04:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WizardDuck-2007-12-07T04:39:00.000Z-Jayron32-2006-11-29T04:43:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams'_markets?-2007-02-22T01:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:45:00.000Z-ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams'_markets?&quot;,&quot;c-DrBear-2007-11-30T17:15:00.000Z-ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams'_markets?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;ESPN Sunday night games televised on Fox owned stations in teams' markets?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;ESPN Sunday night games televised on Fox owned stations in teams' markets?&quot;}--><h2 id="ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams'_markets?" data-mw-thread-id="h-ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams&#039;_markets?-2007-02-22T01:45:00.000Z"><span id="ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams.27_markets.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams'_markets?-2007-02-22T01:45:00.000Z"></span>ESPN Sunday night games televised on Fox owned stations in teams' markets?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams'_markets?-2007-02-22T01:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=7" title="Edit section: ESPN Sunday night games televised on Fox owned stations in teams&#039; markets?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:45:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams'_markets?-2007-02-22T01:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:45:00.000Z-ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams'_markets?","c-DrBear-2007-11-30T17:15:00.000Z-ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams'_markets?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-DrBear-2007-11-30T17:15:00.000Z-ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams'_markets?","timestamp":"2007-11-30T17:15:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams'_markets?-2007-02-22T01:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:45:00.000Z-ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams'_markets?&quot;,&quot;c-DrBear-2007-11-30T17:15:00.000Z-ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams'_markets?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;ESPN Sunday night games televised on Fox owned stations in teams' markets?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;ESPN Sunday night games televised on Fox owned stations in teams' markets?&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:45:00.000Z-ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams'_markets?"></span>Can a source be cited for this? I remember 49ers' Sunday night games on TNT and ESPN being shown on KTVU Fox 2 back in the day, but KTVU is not actually owned by Fox. It's just a Fox affiliate. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:76.21.45.13&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:76.21.45.13 (page does not exist)">76.21.45.13</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:45:00.000Z-ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams'_markets?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:45, 22 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:45:00.000Z-ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams'_markets?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-02-22T01:45:00.000Z","author":"76.21.45.13","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:45:00.000Z-ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams'_markets?","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-76.21.45.13-2007-02-22T01:45:00.000Z-ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams'_markets?"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DrBear-2007-11-30T17:15:00.000Z-ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams'_markets?"></span>It's strictly done on a bidding process. In Green Bay, for example, WBAY (ABC affil.) carries ESPN Monday Night games involving the Packers, but WFRV (CBS affil.) got the NFL Network game against the Cowboys.<a href="/wiki/User:DrBear" title="User:DrBear">DrBear</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-DrBear-2007-11-30T17:15:00.000Z-ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams'_markets?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:15, 30 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DrBear-2007-11-30T17:15:00.000Z-ESPN_Sunday_night_games_televised_on_Fox_owned_stations_in_teams'_markets?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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Bordcast?&quot;}--><h2 id="International_Bordcast?" data-mw-thread-id="h-International_Bordcast?-2007-02-24T15:19:00.000Z"><span id="International_Bordcast.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-International_Bordcast?-2007-02-24T15:19:00.000Z"></span>International Bordcast?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-International_Bordcast?-2007-02-24T15:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=8" title="Edit section: International Bordcast?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-The_Tramp-2007-02-24T15:19:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-International_Bordcast?-2007-02-24T15:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Tramp-2007-02-24T15:19:00.000Z-International_Bordcast?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div 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href="/w/index.php?title=User:The_Tramp&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:The Tramp (page does not exist)">The Tramp</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-The_Tramp-2007-02-24T15:19:00.000Z-International_Bordcast?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 24 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Tramp-2007-02-24T15:19:00.000Z-International_Bordcast?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-02-24T15:19:00.000Z","author":"The Tramp","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-The_Tramp-2007-02-24T15:19:00.000Z-International_Bordcast?","replies":[]}}--></span><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Quadzilla99-2007-06-01T14:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-First_game-2007-06-01T14:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Quadzilla99-2007-06-01T14:31:00.000Z-First_game&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;First game&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;First game&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Quadzilla99-2007-06-01T14:31:00.000Z-First_game"></span>According to: Fullerton, John. <i>Screen Culture: History and Textuality</i>, London: Indiana University Press, 2004 <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) 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href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/0861966457" title="Special:BookSources/0861966457">0861966457</a> (pg. 235), in 1946, <a href="/wiki/NBC" title="NBC">NBC</a> televised the <a href="/wiki/New_York_Giants" title="New York Giants">New York Giants</a> game versus the Green Bay Packers on <a href="/wiki/September_20" title="September 20">September 20</a> and it was the first televised game in league history. <a href="/wiki/User:Quadzilla99" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Quadzilla99">Quadzilla99</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-Quadzilla99-2007-06-01T14:31:00.000Z-First_game" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:31, 1 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Quadzilla99-2007-06-01T14:31:00.000Z-First_game"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-thread-id="h-Los_Angeles-2007-09-21T06:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Los_Angeles-2007-09-21T06:02:00.000Z"></span>Los Angeles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Los_Angeles-2007-09-21T06:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=10" title="Edit section: Los Angeles"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-4.246.84.18-2007-09-21T06:02:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Los_Angeles-2007-09-21T06:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-4.246.84.18-2007-09-21T06:02:00.000Z-Los_Angeles","c-69.181.166.15-2007-10-15T06:53:00.000Z-Los_Angeles"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-69.181.166.15-2007-10-15T06:53:00.000Z-Los_Angeles","timestamp":"2007-10-15T06:53:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-4.246.84.18-2007-09-21T06:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Los_Angeles-2007-09-21T06:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-4.246.84.18-2007-09-21T06:02:00.000Z-Los_Angeles&quot;,&quot;c-69.181.166.15-2007-10-15T06:53:00.000Z-Los_Angeles&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Los Angeles&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Los Angeles&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-4.246.84.18-2007-09-21T06:02:00.000Z-Los_Angeles"></span>What's the NFL Blackout Policy regarding Los Angeles? Are they part of the San Diego Chargers market? <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/4.246.84.18" title="Special:Contributions/4.246.84.18">4.246.84.18</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:4.246.84.18&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:4.246.84.18 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-4.246.84.18-2007-09-21T06:02:00.000Z-Los_Angeles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:02, 21 September 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-4.246.84.18-2007-09-21T06:02:00.000Z-Los_Angeles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-09-21T06:02:00.000Z","author":"4.246.84.18","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-4.246.84.18-2007-09-21T06:02:00.000Z-Los_Angeles","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-4.246.84.18-2007-09-21T06:02:00.000Z-Los_Angeles"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-69.181.166.15-2007-10-15T06:53:00.000Z-Los_Angeles"></span>No. Los Angeles is about 200 miles from San Diego. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:69.181.166.15&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:69.181.166.15 (page does not exist)">69.181.166.15</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-69.181.166.15-2007-10-15T06:53:00.000Z-Los_Angeles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:53, 15 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-69.181.166.15-2007-10-15T06:53:00.000Z-Los_Angeles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-10-15T06:53:00.000Z","author":"69.181.166.15","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-69.181.166.15-2007-10-15T06:53:00.000Z-Los_Angeles","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-69.181.166.15-2007-10-15T06:53:00.000Z-Los_Angeles"></span> </p><p>The Los Angeles Coliseum is only 122 miles driving distance from Qualcomm stadium in San Diego. The areas covered by each are much closer. Los Angeles County is as little as 70 miles driving distance from San Diego County (less as the crow flies). The greater LA area can be considered to include Orange County, which borders San Diego county. In that case there are zero miles between the two markets. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-209.62.209.152-2007-11-23T21:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation-2007-11-23T21:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-209.62.209.152-2007-11-23T21:31:00.000Z-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation&quot;,&quot;c-HouseBowlrz-2008-10-22T21:49:00.000Z-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thanksgiving Day Football - Even-Odd Rotation&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thanksgiving Day Football - Even-Odd Rotation&quot;}--><h2 id="Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation-2007-11-23T21:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation-2007-11-23T21:31:00.000Z"></span>Thanksgiving Day Football - Even-Odd Rotation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation-2007-11-23T21:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=11" title="Edit section: Thanksgiving Day Football - Even-Odd Rotation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-209.62.209.152-2007-11-23T21:31:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation-2007-11-23T21:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-209.62.209.152-2007-11-23T21:31:00.000Z-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation","c-HouseBowlrz-2008-10-22T21:49:00.000Z-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-HouseBowlrz-2008-10-22T21:49:00.000Z-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation","timestamp":"2008-10-22T21:49:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-209.62.209.152-2007-11-23T21:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation-2007-11-23T21:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-209.62.209.152-2007-11-23T21:31:00.000Z-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation&quot;,&quot;c-HouseBowlrz-2008-10-22T21:49:00.000Z-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thanksgiving Day Football - Even-Odd Rotation&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thanksgiving Day Football - Even-Odd Rotation&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-209.62.209.152-2007-11-23T21:31:00.000Z-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation"></span>Yes, the even-odd rotations (i.e, Dallas hosts NFC in even years and AFC in odd years, and Detroit hosts AFC in even years and NFC in odd years) did technically reverse every decade or so. However, the reversal was not solely because of a 10-year (decade) passage. Rather, it has to do with the poor performance of one of the host teams in the prior year. This scenario happened twice. </p><p>In 1979, the Detroit Lions finished with a 2-14 record, "bad" enough for 5th place in what was then the NFC Central. In 1980, the NFC Central was scheduled to host teams from the AFC West. However, due to NFL scheduling at the time, the 5th place team in a division from the prior year played a "special" schedule consisting of: </p><p>1) a home game and an away game against each of the other 4 teams in its own 5-team division 2) A game (home or away) against each member of the "4-team" division within their own conference (i.e., the NFC West) 3) a home game and an away game against the other 5th place team in the same conference 4) a home game against one 5th place team in the other conference, and 5) an away game against the other 5th place team in the other conference </p><p>With the above scheduling formula in mind, the NFL apparently decided that Kansas City and Baltimore as Thanksgiving Day visitors to Detroit would lead to "unwatchable" matchups. That is, nobody would, in their right mind, interrupt their Thanksgiving meal to watch a game between two losing teams. Therefore, 1980 marked the second year in a row that Detroit would host an NFC team and Dallas would host an AFC team, and that's why the even-odd rotation was apparently reversed after a decade. </p><p>In 1990, a similar situation occurred with the Dallas Cowboys. In 1989, Dallas finished 1-15, "bad" enough for 5th place in the NFC East. In 1990, the NFC East was scheduled to play teams from the AFC East. Due to NFL scheduling formula, however, the NFL apparently decided that San Diego and New York Jets as visitors to Dallas would produce "unwatchable" matchups and that people would be unwilling to interrupt their Thanksgiving meal to watch such a game. Therefore, Thanksgiving 1990 would be the second straight year for AFC @ Detroit and NFC @ Dallas. Again, the even-odd rotation was apparently reversed after a decade. </p><p>With the current NFL alignment (i.e. 4 teams in each of 4 divisions in each of 2 conferences), however, the above scenarios would be extremely unlikely, if not impossible, in the future. Therefore, the even-odd rotation reversals occurred not merely because of decade-long passages but because of prior year performances by the host teams (Detroit and Dallas). </p><p><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/209.62.209.152" title="Special:Contributions/209.62.209.152">209.62.209.152</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:209.62.209.152&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:209.62.209.152 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-209.62.209.152-2007-11-23T21:31:00.000Z-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:31, 23 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-209.62.209.152-2007-11-23T21:31:00.000Z-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-11-23T21:31:00.000Z","author":"209.62.209.152","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-209.62.209.152-2007-11-23T21:31:00.000Z-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-209.62.209.152-2007-11-23T21:31:00.000Z-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HouseBowlrz-2008-10-22T21:49:00.000Z-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation"></span>Now that the league has gone to four team divisions, the same AFC divisions will visit Detroit and Dallas for Thanksgiving: the AFC East (Detroit: every four starting 2002, Dallas: every four starting 2003), AFC South (Detroit: every four starting 2004), and the AFC West (Dallas: every four starting 2005). That being said, the AFC North teams will never have the opportunity to play on Thanksgiving unless they flip the even-odd rotation starting with the 2010 season, presuming the league opts to retain the current inter-conference divisional rotation. </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:HouseBowlrz&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:HouseBowlrz (page does not exist)">HouseBowlrz</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:HouseBowlrz&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:HouseBowlrz (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-HouseBowlrz-2008-10-22T21:49:00.000Z-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:49, 22 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HouseBowlrz-2008-10-22T21:49:00.000Z-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-10-22T21:49:00.000Z","author":"HouseBowlrz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-HouseBowlrz-2008-10-22T21:49:00.000Z-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HouseBowlrz-2008-10-22T21:49:00.000Z-Thanksgiving_Day_Football_-_Even-Odd_Rotation"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-24.184.64.197-2008-01-26T04:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Pre-2002_schedules-2008-01-26T04:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-24.184.64.197-2008-01-26T04:15:00.000Z-Pre-2002_schedules&quot;,&quot;c-50.136.139.204-2015-11-08T19:46:00.000Z-Pre-2002_schedules&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Pre-2002 schedules&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Pre-2002 schedules&quot;}--><h2 id="Pre-2002_schedules" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pre-2002_schedules-2008-01-26T04:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pre-2002_schedules-2008-01-26T04:15:00.000Z"></span>Pre-2002 schedules<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pre-2002_schedules-2008-01-26T04:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=12" title="Edit section: Pre-2002 schedules"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-24.184.64.197-2008-01-26T04:15:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Pre-2002_schedules-2008-01-26T04:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-24.184.64.197-2008-01-26T04:15:00.000Z-Pre-2002_schedules","c-50.136.139.204-2015-11-08T19:46:00.000Z-Pre-2002_schedules"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-50.136.139.204-2015-11-08T19:46:00.000Z-Pre-2002_schedules","timestamp":"2015-11-08T19:46:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-24.184.64.197-2008-01-26T04:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Pre-2002_schedules-2008-01-26T04:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-24.184.64.197-2008-01-26T04:15:00.000Z-Pre-2002_schedules&quot;,&quot;c-50.136.139.204-2015-11-08T19:46:00.000Z-Pre-2002_schedules&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Pre-2002 schedules&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Pre-2002 schedules&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-24.184.64.197-2008-01-26T04:15:00.000Z-Pre-2002_schedules"></span>Since someone mentioned the pre-2002 schedule formula for the 5th place teams: what was the pre-2002 schedule formula for the other teams? <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.184.64.197" title="Special:Contributions/24.184.64.197">24.184.64.197</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:24.184.64.197" title="User talk:24.184.64.197">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-24.184.64.197-2008-01-26T04:15:00.000Z-Pre-2002_schedules" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:15, 26 January 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-24.184.64.197-2008-01-26T04:15:00.000Z-Pre-2002_schedules"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-01-26T04:15:00.000Z","author":"24.184.64.197","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-24.184.64.197-2008-01-26T04:15:00.000Z-Pre-2002_schedules","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-24.184.64.197-2008-01-26T04:15:00.000Z-Pre-2002_schedules"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-50.136.139.204-2015-11-08T19:46:00.000Z-Pre-2002_schedules"></span>Actually that was the 1978-1994 5th place schedule, which was bizarre compared to the other schedules but simple to understand. The first through fourth place schedules (1978-2001) and fifth place schedules (1995-2001) were very similar yet hard to memorize.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/50.136.139.204" title="Special:Contributions/50.136.139.204">50.136.139.204</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:50.136.139.204" title="User talk:50.136.139.204">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-50.136.139.204-2015-11-08T19:46:00.000Z-Pre-2002_schedules" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:46, 8 November 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-50.136.139.204-2015-11-08T19:46:00.000Z-Pre-2002_schedules"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-11-08T19:46:00.000Z","author":"50.136.139.204","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-50.136.139.204-2015-11-08T19:46:00.000Z-Pre-2002_schedules","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-50.136.139.204-2015-11-08T19:46:00.000Z-Pre-2002_schedules"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-71.178.184.14-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Overtime-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-71.178.184.14-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z-Overtime&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Overtime&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Overtime&quot;}--><h2 id="Overtime" data-mw-thread-id="h-Overtime-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Overtime-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z"></span>Overtime<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Overtime-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=13" title="Edit section: Overtime"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-71.178.184.14-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Overtime-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-71.178.184.14-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z-Overtime"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Zzyzx11-2008-07-20T05:14:00.000Z-71.178.184.14-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-07-20T05:14:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-71.178.184.14-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Overtime-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-71.178.184.14-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z-Overtime&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Overtime&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Overtime&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-71.178.184.14-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z-Overtime"></span>what about the rule where is a 1 o'clock game goes into overtime on a network, and another game starts at 4:15 on the same network, the viewer is not allowed to watch the end of the first game, they cut off the broadcast to show you the start of the second game. one of the dumbest rules in my opinion. broadcasts of baseball, basketball, college football, and college basketball do not do this, why does the NFL have to? can someone do some research into this, and maybe add it into the article? <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.178.184.14" title="Special:Contributions/71.178.184.14">71.178.184.14</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:71.178.184.14&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:71.178.184.14 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-71.178.184.14-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z-Overtime" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-71.178.184.14-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z-Overtime"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z","author":"71.178.184.14","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-71.178.184.14-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z-Overtime","replies":["c-Zzyzx11-2008-07-20T05:14:00.000Z-71.178.184.14-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-71.178.184.14-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z-Overtime"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zzyzx11-2008-07-20T05:14:00.000Z-71.178.184.14-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z"></span>The rule is mentioned in the "Sunday regional coverage" section in regards to the <a href="/wiki/Heidi_Game" title="Heidi Game">Heidi Game</a>. The rule that a primary media market must show its local team's game in its entirety was implemented after the Heidi Game. <a href="/wiki/User:Zzyzx11" title="User:Zzyzx11">Zzyzx11</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zzyzx11" title="User talk:Zzyzx11">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-Zzyzx11-2008-07-20T05:14:00.000Z-71.178.184.14-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:14, 20 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zzyzx11-2008-07-20T05:14:00.000Z-71.178.184.14-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-20T05:14:00.000Z","author":"Zzyzx11","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Zzyzx11-2008-07-20T05:14:00.000Z-71.178.184.14-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zzyzx11-2008-07-20T05:14:00.000Z-71.178.184.14-2008-01-02T15:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-24.184.64.197-2008-01-26T01:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Christmas_2008_and_Thursday_night_games-2008-01-26T01:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-24.184.64.197-2008-01-26T01:02:00.000Z-Christmas_2008_and_Thursday_night_games&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Christmas 2008 and Thursday night games&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Christmas 2008 and Thursday night games&quot;}--><h2 id="Christmas_2008_and_Thursday_night_games" data-mw-thread-id="h-Christmas_2008_and_Thursday_night_games-2008-01-26T01:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Christmas_2008_and_Thursday_night_games-2008-01-26T01:02:00.000Z"></span>Christmas 2008 and Thursday night games<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Christmas_2008_and_Thursday_night_games-2008-01-26T01:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=14" title="Edit section: Christmas 2008 and Thursday night games"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-24.184.64.197-2008-01-26T01:02:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Christmas_2008_and_Thursday_night_games-2008-01-26T01:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-24.184.64.197-2008-01-26T01:02:00.000Z-Christmas_2008_and_Thursday_night_games"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Zzyzx11-2008-07-20T05:15:00.000Z-24.184.64.197-2008-01-26T01:02:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-07-20T05:15:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-24.184.64.197-2008-01-26T01:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Christmas_2008_and_Thursday_night_games-2008-01-26T01:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-24.184.64.197-2008-01-26T01:02:00.000Z-Christmas_2008_and_Thursday_night_games&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Christmas 2008 and Thursday night games&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Christmas 2008 and Thursday night games&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-24.184.64.197-2008-01-26T01:02:00.000Z-Christmas_2008_and_Thursday_night_games"></span>In 2006 and 2007, the 5 Thursday night games were Weeks 12-16, starting on Thanksgiving (Nov. 23, 2006 and Nov. 22, 2007), and ending with the penultimate week of the season (Dec. 21, 2006 and Dec. 20, 2007); there was no Thursday night game the last week of the season (Dec. 28, 2006 and Dec. 27, 2007). The 3 Saturday night games were Weeks 15-17, the last 3 weeks of the season (Dec. 16, 23, and 30, 2006; and Dec. 15, 22, and 29, 2007). </p><p>However, in 2008, Thanksgiving falls on Nov. 27, a week later (Week 13 rather than Week 12) than in 2006 and 2007. How will they handle the schedule? Will they start the Thursday night games the week before Thanksgiving (Nov. 20, 2008), and otherwise follow the same basic pattern as 2006 and 2007? Or, will they have a Thursday night game during the last week of the season (which would be Christmas, Dec. 25), even though there was no Thursday night game that week in 2006 and 2007 (and there has never been a Thursday night game on Christmas, although they do have Sunday night and Monday night games on Christmas)? Or will they instead do 4 Thursday night games (weeks 13-16) and 4 Saturday night games (weeks 14-17)? Or does nobody know? <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.184.64.197" title="Special:Contributions/24.184.64.197">24.184.64.197</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:24.184.64.197" title="User talk:24.184.64.197">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-24.184.64.197-2008-01-26T01:02:00.000Z-Christmas_2008_and_Thursday_night_games" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:02, 26 January 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-24.184.64.197-2008-01-26T01:02:00.000Z-Christmas_2008_and_Thursday_night_games"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Zzyzx11-2008-07-19T02:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Leverage_over_the_networks_section-2008-07-19T02:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Zzyzx11-2008-07-19T02:20:00.000Z-Leverage_over_the_networks_section&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Leverage over the networks section&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Leverage over the networks section&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zzyzx11-2008-07-19T02:20:00.000Z-Leverage_over_the_networks_section"></span>The "Leverage over the networks" section probably needs more <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CITE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CITE">citations</a> from third party references to improve the reliability of the content because of the number of examples that are being used to illustrate the section. Cheers. <a href="/wiki/User:Zzyzx11" title="User:Zzyzx11">Zzyzx11</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zzyzx11" title="User talk:Zzyzx11">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-Zzyzx11-2008-07-19T02:20:00.000Z-Leverage_over_the_networks_section" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:20, 19 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zzyzx11-2008-07-19T02:20:00.000Z-Leverage_over_the_networks_section"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-19T02:20:00.000Z","author":"Zzyzx11","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Zzyzx11-2008-07-19T02:20:00.000Z-Leverage_over_the_networks_section","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zzyzx11-2008-07-19T02:20:00.000Z-Leverage_over_the_networks_section"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-CrazyC83-2009-01-01T02:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-International_blackouts-2009-01-01T02:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-CrazyC83-2009-01-01T02:37:00.000Z-International_blackouts&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;International blackouts&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;International blackouts&quot;}--><h2 id="International_blackouts" data-mw-thread-id="h-International_blackouts-2009-01-01T02:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-International_blackouts-2009-01-01T02:37:00.000Z"></span>International blackouts<span data-mw-comment-end="h-International_blackouts-2009-01-01T02:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=16" title="Edit section: International blackouts"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-CrazyC83-2009-01-01T02:37:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-International_blackouts-2009-01-01T02:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-CrazyC83-2009-01-01T02:37:00.000Z-International_blackouts"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-CrazyC83-2009-01-01T02:37:00.000Z-International_blackouts","timestamp":"2009-01-01T02:37:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-CrazyC83-2009-01-01T02:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-International_blackouts-2009-01-01T02:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-CrazyC83-2009-01-01T02:37:00.000Z-International_blackouts&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;International blackouts&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;International blackouts&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CrazyC83-2009-01-01T02:37:00.000Z-International_blackouts"></span>Do blackout policies for secondary markets cross international borders? For example, if a Buffalo Bills game is not sold out, do the Toronto stations have to black the game out (since much of it is less than 75 miles from Buffalo)? <a href="/wiki/User:CrazyC83" title="User:CrazyC83">CrazyC83</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CrazyC83" title="User talk:CrazyC83">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-CrazyC83-2009-01-01T02:37:00.000Z-International_blackouts" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:37, 1 January 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CrazyC83-2009-01-01T02:37:00.000Z-International_blackouts"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-thread-id="h-overlap_and_repeativiness-2009-02-08T04:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-overlap_and_repeativiness-2009-02-08T04:01:00.000Z"></span>overlap and repeativiness<span data-mw-comment-end="h-overlap_and_repeativiness-2009-02-08T04:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=17" title="Edit section: overlap and repeativiness"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Levineps-2009-02-08T04:01:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-overlap_and_repeativiness-2009-02-08T04:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Levineps-2009-02-08T04:01:00.000Z-overlap_and_repeativiness"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Levineps-2009-02-08T04:01:00.000Z-overlap_and_repeativiness","timestamp":"2009-02-08T04:01:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Levineps-2009-02-08T04:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-overlap_and_repeativiness-2009-02-08T04:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Levineps-2009-02-08T04:01:00.000Z-overlap_and_repeativiness&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;overlap and repeativiness&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;overlap and repeativiness&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Levineps-2009-02-08T04:01:00.000Z-overlap_and_repeativiness"></span>There is a lot of this and it would be nice to cut it down, any ideas how to do this?--<a href="/wiki/User:Levineps" title="User:Levineps">Levineps</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Levineps" title="User talk:Levineps">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-Levineps-2009-02-08T04:01:00.000Z-overlap_and_repeativiness" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:01, 8 February 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Levineps-2009-02-08T04:01:00.000Z-overlap_and_repeativiness"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-02-08T04:01:00.000Z","author":"Levineps","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Levineps-2009-02-08T04:01:00.000Z-overlap_and_repeativiness","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Levineps-2009-02-08T04:01:00.000Z-overlap_and_repeativiness"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Levineps-2009-02-08T04:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-capacity_set_for_the_whole_season_(and_playoffs)-2009-02-08T04:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Levineps-2009-02-08T04:03:00.000Z-capacity_set_for_the_whole_season_(and_playoffs)&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;capacity set for the whole season (and playoffs)&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;capacity set for the whole season (and playoffs)&quot;}--><h2 id="capacity_set_for_the_whole_season_(and_playoffs)" data-mw-thread-id="h-capacity_set_for_the_whole_season_(and_playoffs)-2009-02-08T04:03:00.000Z"><span id="capacity_set_for_the_whole_season_.28and_playoffs.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-capacity_set_for_the_whole_season_(and_playoffs)-2009-02-08T04:03:00.000Z"></span>capacity set for the whole season (and playoffs)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-capacity_set_for_the_whole_season_(and_playoffs)-2009-02-08T04:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=18" title="Edit section: capacity set for the whole season (and playoffs)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Levineps-2009-02-08T04:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-capacity_set_for_the_whole_season_(and_playoffs)-2009-02-08T04:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Levineps-2009-02-08T04:03:00.000Z-capacity_set_for_the_whole_season_(and_playoffs)"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Levineps-2009-02-08T04:03:00.000Z-capacity_set_for_the_whole_season_(and_playoffs)","timestamp":"2009-02-08T04:03:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Levineps-2009-02-08T04:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-capacity_set_for_the_whole_season_(and_playoffs)-2009-02-08T04:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Levineps-2009-02-08T04:03:00.000Z-capacity_set_for_the_whole_season_(and_playoffs)&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;capacity set for the whole season (and playoffs)&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;capacity set for the whole season (and playoffs)&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Levineps-2009-02-08T04:03:00.000Z-capacity_set_for_the_whole_season_(and_playoffs)"></span>I think it's true for the regular season. I am pretty sure I read somewhere that the Cardinals sold more tickets b/c of the expanded capaicty (e.g. what they had in place for last year's Super Bowl and Fiesta Bowl games)--<a href="/wiki/User:Levineps" title="User:Levineps">Levineps</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Levineps" title="User talk:Levineps">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-Levineps-2009-02-08T04:03:00.000Z-capacity_set_for_the_whole_season_(and_playoffs)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:03, 8 February 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Levineps-2009-02-08T04:03:00.000Z-capacity_set_for_the_whole_season_(and_playoffs)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-02-08T04:03:00.000Z","author":"Levineps","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Levineps-2009-02-08T04:03:00.000Z-capacity_set_for_the_whole_season_(and_playoffs)","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Levineps-2009-02-08T04:03:00.000Z-capacity_set_for_the_whole_season_(and_playoffs)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-DrBear-2009-02-19T19:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Fox_vs._FOX-2009-02-19T19:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-DrBear-2009-02-19T19:33:00.000Z-Fox_vs._FOX&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Fox vs. FOX&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Fox vs. FOX&quot;}--><h2 id="Fox_vs._FOX" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fox_vs._FOX-2009-02-19T19:33:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fox_vs._FOX-2009-02-19T19:33:00.000Z"></span>Fox vs. FOX<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fox_vs._FOX-2009-02-19T19:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=19" title="Edit section: Fox vs. FOX"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DrBear-2009-02-19T19:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Fox_vs._FOX-2009-02-19T19:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-DrBear-2009-02-19T19:33:00.000Z-Fox_vs._FOX"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-DrBear-2009-02-19T19:33:00.000Z-Fox_vs._FOX","timestamp":"2009-02-19T19:33:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-DrBear-2009-02-19T19:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Fox_vs._FOX-2009-02-19T19:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-DrBear-2009-02-19T19:33:00.000Z-Fox_vs._FOX&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Fox vs. FOX&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Fox vs. FOX&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DrBear-2009-02-19T19:33:00.000Z-Fox_vs._FOX"></span>On the page for Fox Broadcasting Company it is noted that either is correct. With that in mind, and noting that Fox is not all-capitals in that article, it seems the same style should be followed in referring articles. Fox is probably preferable as running it in all-caps is merely a network marketing preference, not necessarily proper language use. Fox is not an acronym for a phrase as are CBS, NBC, ABC and PBS; it is a word. The proper acronym would be FBS, which is not used. <a href="/wiki/User:DrBear" title="User:DrBear">DrBear</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DrBear" title="User talk:DrBear">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-DrBear-2009-02-19T19:33:00.000Z-Fox_vs._FOX" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:33, 19 February 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DrBear-2009-02-19T19:33:00.000Z-Fox_vs._FOX"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-02-19T19:33:00.000Z","author":"DrBear","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DrBear-2009-02-19T19:33:00.000Z-Fox_vs._FOX","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DrBear-2009-02-19T19:33:00.000Z-Fox_vs._FOX"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Paulshrug-2009-04-15T16:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Misleading_language_in_flex-scheduling-2009-04-15T16:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Paulshrug-2009-04-15T16:46:00.000Z-Misleading_language_in_flex-scheduling&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Misleading language in flex-scheduling&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Misleading language in flex-scheduling&quot;}--><h2 id="Misleading_language_in_flex-scheduling" data-mw-thread-id="h-Misleading_language_in_flex-scheduling-2009-04-15T16:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Misleading_language_in_flex-scheduling-2009-04-15T16:46:00.000Z"></span>Misleading language in flex-scheduling<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Misleading_language_in_flex-scheduling-2009-04-15T16:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=20" title="Edit section: Misleading language in flex-scheduling"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Paulshrug-2009-04-15T16:46:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Misleading_language_in_flex-scheduling-2009-04-15T16:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Paulshrug-2009-04-15T16:46:00.000Z-Misleading_language_in_flex-scheduling"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Paulshrug-2009-04-15T16:46:00.000Z-Misleading_language_in_flex-scheduling","timestamp":"2009-04-15T16:46:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Paulshrug-2009-04-15T16:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Misleading_language_in_flex-scheduling-2009-04-15T16:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Paulshrug-2009-04-15T16:46:00.000Z-Misleading_language_in_flex-scheduling&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Misleading language in flex-scheduling&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Misleading language in flex-scheduling&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paulshrug-2009-04-15T16:46:00.000Z-Misleading_language_in_flex-scheduling"></span>NBC had to settle for a matchup between the <a href="/wiki/2008_Denver_Broncos_season" title="2008 Denver Broncos season">Denver Broncos</a> and the <a href="/wiki/2008_San_Diego_Chargers" class="mw-redirect" title="2008 San Diego Chargers">San Diego Chargers</a> because ESPN broadcast the season's first matchup between the <a href="/wiki/2008_Dallas_Cowboys_season" title="2008 Dallas Cowboys season">Cowboys</a> and <a href="/wiki/2008_Philadelphia_Eagles_season" title="2008 Philadelphia Eagles season">Eagles</a>.</i> -- The game between Denver and San Diego was to decide the winner of the AFC West division, and the final playoff spot in the AFC. NBC was hardly "settling" for the matchup; no other game that weekend had higher implications for the playoffs. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Paulshrug&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Paulshrug (page does not exist)">Paulshrug</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paulshrug" title="User talk:Paulshrug">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Paulshrug" title="Special:Contributions/Paulshrug">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-Paulshrug-2009-04-15T16:46:00.000Z-Misleading_language_in_flex-scheduling" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paulshrug-2009-04-15T16:46:00.000Z-Misleading_language_in_flex-scheduling"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-04-15T16:46:00.000Z","author":"Paulshrug","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Paulshrug-2009-04-15T16:46:00.000Z-Misleading_language_in_flex-scheduling","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paulshrug-2009-04-15T16:46:00.000Z-Misleading_language_in_flex-scheduling"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-209.62.209.152-2009-05-27T00:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Road_Games_of_Primary_Media_Market_Teams-2009-05-27T00:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-209.62.209.152-2009-05-27T00:13:00.000Z-Road_Games_of_Primary_Media_Market_Teams&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Road Games of Primary Media Market Teams&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Road Games of Primary Media Market Teams&quot;}--><h2 id="Road_Games_of_Primary_Media_Market_Teams" data-mw-thread-id="h-Road_Games_of_Primary_Media_Market_Teams-2009-05-27T00:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Road_Games_of_Primary_Media_Market_Teams-2009-05-27T00:13:00.000Z"></span>Road Games of Primary Media Market Teams<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Road_Games_of_Primary_Media_Market_Teams-2009-05-27T00:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=21" title="Edit section: Road Games of Primary Media Market Teams"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-209.62.209.152-2009-05-27T00:13:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Road_Games_of_Primary_Media_Market_Teams-2009-05-27T00:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-209.62.209.152-2009-05-27T00:13:00.000Z-Road_Games_of_Primary_Media_Market_Teams"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-209.62.209.152-2009-05-27T00:13:00.000Z-Road_Games_of_Primary_Media_Market_Teams","timestamp":"2009-05-27T00:13:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-209.62.209.152-2009-05-27T00:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Road_Games_of_Primary_Media_Market_Teams-2009-05-27T00:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-209.62.209.152-2009-05-27T00:13:00.000Z-Road_Games_of_Primary_Media_Market_Teams&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Road Games of Primary Media Market Teams&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Road Games of Primary Media Market Teams&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-209.62.209.152-2009-05-27T00:13:00.000Z-Road_Games_of_Primary_Media_Market_Teams"></span>You mention that when a certain team is playing at home, then no other games can air on TV in the primary market of the home team. Apparently, the same can be said if the team is playing on the road @ 1 p.m. ET on a weekend that the network that's normally the broadcast partner for that team has a doubleheader. Two examples: </p><p><i>New Orleans</i> When the Saints are a playing a road game @ 12:00 and Fox has a doubleheader, then the Fox station (WVUE-8) shows the Saints game in the New Orleans market, but the CBS station in New Orleans (WWL-4) shows alternative programming until the 3:05 p.m. game. </p><p><i>Houston</i> When the Texans are a playing a road game @ 12:00 and CBS has a doubleheader, then the CBS station shows the Texans game in the Houston market, but the Fox station in Houston shows alternative programming until the 3:05 p.m. game. </p><p>Similar policies apply in most other cities in the NFL. Is there a way ya'll incorporate this information into the article? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/209.62.209.152" title="Special:Contributions/209.62.209.152">209.62.209.152</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:209.62.209.152&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:209.62.209.152 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-209.62.209.152-2009-05-27T00:13:00.000Z-Road_Games_of_Primary_Media_Market_Teams" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:13, 27 May 2009 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-209.62.209.152-2009-05-27T00:13:00.000Z-Road_Games_of_Primary_Media_Market_Teams"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-27T00:13:00.000Z","author":"209.62.209.152","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-209.62.209.152-2009-05-27T00:13:00.000Z-Road_Games_of_Primary_Media_Market_Teams","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-209.62.209.152-2009-05-27T00:13:00.000Z-Road_Games_of_Primary_Media_Market_Teams"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Secondary_market_inconsistencies" data-mw-thread-id="h-Secondary_market_inconsistencies"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Secondary_market_inconsistencies"></span>Secondary market inconsistencies<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Secondary_market_inconsistencies"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=22" title="Edit section: Secondary market inconsistencies"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Secondary_market_inconsistencies","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>There's a very unusual situation in the Mid-Atlantic when you have Washington and Baltimore, each with their own NFL team, also being designated as secondary markets for the other. But there's a major inconsistency in how the primary/secondary rules are being enforced, presumably by the NFL. In Washington, it's become quite routine for WUSA (CBS-9) to show a Ravens road came (and the programming department says its because of the secondary market rules) at the same time WTTG (Fox-5) is showing a Redskins home game. But when you reverse the scenario, Baltimore's WBFF (Fox-45) has rarely shown a Redskins road game opposite a Ravens home game on WJZ (CBS-13). WBFF cites the primary market rule, which says you can't show a game in the primary market against the home team's home game. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Zzyzx11-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Will_this_article_ever_get_cleaned_up?-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Zzyzx11-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z-Will_this_article_ever_get_cleaned_up?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Will this article ever get cleaned up?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Will this article ever get cleaned up?&quot;}--><h2 id="Will_this_article_ever_get_cleaned_up?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Will_this_article_ever_get_cleaned_up?-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z"><span id="Will_this_article_ever_get_cleaned_up.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Will_this_article_ever_get_cleaned_up?-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z"></span>Will this article ever get cleaned up?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Will_this_article_ever_get_cleaned_up?-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=23" title="Edit section: Will this article ever get cleaned up?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Zzyzx11-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Will_this_article_ever_get_cleaned_up?-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Zzyzx11-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z-Will_this_article_ever_get_cleaned_up?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Zzyzx11-2020-05-17T16:58:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z","timestamp":"2020-05-17T16:58:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Zzyzx11-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Will_this_article_ever_get_cleaned_up?-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Zzyzx11-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z-Will_this_article_ever_get_cleaned_up?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Will this article ever get cleaned up?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Will this article ever get cleaned up?&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zzyzx11-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z-Will_this_article_ever_get_cleaned_up?"></span>After just reading this article, it seems to have gotten a lot worse after I originally tagged it for cleanup back in 2006.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NFL_on_television&amp;diff=92108780&amp;oldid=92107870">[3]</a> Why does it seems that everyone wants to included every single, little TV policy detail and scenario that has been discussed in forums like <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://the506.com/yabb/YaBB.pl">http://the506.com/yabb/YaBB.pl</a> ? This article is totally disorganized, content seems to be repeated multiple times, and there are little or no references. For starters, it should either be trimmed, or split up per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Summary_style" title="Wikipedia:Summary style">Wikipedia:Summary style</a>. If I had the time, I would work on it myself, but I'm busy in real life these days. Maybe in the off-season... <a href="/wiki/User:Zzyzx11" title="User:Zzyzx11">Zzyzx11</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zzyzx11" title="User talk:Zzyzx11">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-Zzyzx11-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z-Will_this_article_ever_get_cleaned_up?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:29, 23 November 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zzyzx11-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z-Will_this_article_ever_get_cleaned_up?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z","author":"Zzyzx11","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Zzyzx11-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z-Will_this_article_ever_get_cleaned_up?","replies":["c-Zzyzx11-2020-05-17T16:58:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zzyzx11-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z-Will_this_article_ever_get_cleaned_up?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zzyzx11-2020-05-17T16:58:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z"></span>... And it still is a bit of a mess almost 11 years later :-( <a href="/wiki/User:Zzyzx11" title="User:Zzyzx11">Zzyzx11</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zzyzx11" title="User talk:Zzyzx11">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-Zzyzx11-2020-05-17T16:58:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:58, 17 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zzyzx11-2020-05-17T16:58:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-17T16:58:00.000Z","author":"Zzyzx11","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Zzyzx11-2020-05-17T16:58:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zzyzx11-2020-05-17T16:58:00.000Z-Zzyzx11-2009-11-23T05:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-208.101.139.29-2010-10-28T08:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Blackout_dates-2010-10-28T08:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-208.101.139.29-2010-10-28T08:24:00.000Z-Blackout_dates&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Blackout dates&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Blackout dates&quot;}--><h2 id="Blackout_dates" data-mw-thread-id="h-Blackout_dates-2010-10-28T08:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Blackout_dates-2010-10-28T08:24:00.000Z"></span>Blackout dates<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Blackout_dates-2010-10-28T08:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=24" title="Edit section: Blackout dates"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-208.101.139.29-2010-10-28T08:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Blackout_dates-2010-10-28T08:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-208.101.139.29-2010-10-28T08:24:00.000Z-Blackout_dates"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-208.101.139.29-2010-10-28T08:24:00.000Z-Blackout_dates","timestamp":"2010-10-28T08:24:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-208.101.139.29-2010-10-28T08:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Blackout_dates-2010-10-28T08:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-208.101.139.29-2010-10-28T08:24:00.000Z-Blackout_dates&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Blackout dates&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Blackout dates&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-208.101.139.29-2010-10-28T08:24:00.000Z-Blackout_dates"></span>I had put a list on here of NFL teams and the last time they failed to sell out a game, but it was removed for being unsourced. I researched this pretty carefully, and I've been able to find the last blackout/non-sell out dates for most teams. However, I do not have dates for the Giants (other than that their last NSO was before 1976), Colts (last blackout was early in the 2000s, but not sure exactly when), and Seahawks (their whole 2002 season was blacked, but I'm not sure if they had any BOs in 2003). <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/208.101.139.29" title="Special:Contributions/208.101.139.29">208.101.139.29</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:208.101.139.29&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:208.101.139.29 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-208.101.139.29-2010-10-28T08:24:00.000Z-Blackout_dates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:24, 28 October 2010 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-208.101.139.29-2010-10-28T08:24:00.000Z-Blackout_dates"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-28T08:24:00.000Z","author":"208.101.139.29","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-208.101.139.29-2010-10-28T08:24:00.000Z-Blackout_dates","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-208.101.139.29-2010-10-28T08:24:00.000Z-Blackout_dates"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-188.221.79.22-2011-01-15T23:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Shared_media_Markets_and_blackouts-2011-01-15T23:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-188.221.79.22-2011-01-15T23:29:00.000Z-Shared_media_Markets_and_blackouts&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Shared media Markets and blackouts&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Shared media Markets and blackouts&quot;}--><h2 id="Shared_media_Markets_and_blackouts" data-mw-thread-id="h-Shared_media_Markets_and_blackouts-2011-01-15T23:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Shared_media_Markets_and_blackouts-2011-01-15T23:29:00.000Z"></span>Shared media Markets and blackouts<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Shared_media_Markets_and_blackouts-2011-01-15T23:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=25" title="Edit section: Shared media Markets and blackouts"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-188.221.79.22-2011-01-15T23:29:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Shared_media_Markets_and_blackouts-2011-01-15T23:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-188.221.79.22-2011-01-15T23:29:00.000Z-Shared_media_Markets_and_blackouts"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-188.221.79.22-2011-01-15T23:29:00.000Z-Shared_media_Markets_and_blackouts","timestamp":"2011-01-15T23:29:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-188.221.79.22-2011-01-15T23:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Shared_media_Markets_and_blackouts-2011-01-15T23:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-188.221.79.22-2011-01-15T23:29:00.000Z-Shared_media_Markets_and_blackouts&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Shared media Markets and blackouts&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Shared media Markets and blackouts&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-188.221.79.22-2011-01-15T23:29:00.000Z-Shared_media_Markets_and_blackouts"></span>What happens if a game between two teams in the same media market (Raiders-49ers or jets-Giants) isn't sold out? Is it blacked out (home game not sold out) or shown (local team is away)? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/188.221.79.22" title="Special:Contributions/188.221.79.22">188.221.79.22</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:188.221.79.22" title="User talk:188.221.79.22">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-188.221.79.22-2011-01-15T23:29:00.000Z-Shared_media_Markets_and_blackouts" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:29, 15 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-188.221.79.22-2011-01-15T23:29:00.000Z-Shared_media_Markets_and_blackouts"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-01-15T23:29:00.000Z","author":"188.221.79.22","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-188.221.79.22-2011-01-15T23:29:00.000Z-Shared_media_Markets_and_blackouts","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-188.221.79.22-2011-01-15T23:29:00.000Z-Shared_media_Markets_and_blackouts"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Jgera5-2013-07-13T03:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Splitting_up_the_article-2013-07-13T03:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Jgera5-2013-07-13T03:04:00.000Z-Splitting_up_the_article&quot;,&quot;c-Jgera5-2013-07-24T18:22:00.000Z-Splitting_up_the_article&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Splitting up the article&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Splitting up the article&quot;}--><h2 id="Splitting_up_the_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Splitting_up_the_article-2013-07-13T03:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Splitting_up_the_article-2013-07-13T03:04:00.000Z"></span>Splitting up the article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Splitting_up_the_article-2013-07-13T03:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=26" title="Edit section: Splitting up the article"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Jgera5-2013-07-13T03:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Splitting_up_the_article-2013-07-13T03:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jgera5-2013-07-13T03:04:00.000Z-Splitting_up_the_article","c-Jgera5-2013-07-24T18:22:00.000Z-Splitting_up_the_article"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Jgera5-2013-07-24T18:22:00.000Z-Splitting_up_the_article","timestamp":"2013-07-24T18:22:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Jgera5-2013-07-13T03:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Splitting_up_the_article-2013-07-13T03:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Jgera5-2013-07-13T03:04:00.000Z-Splitting_up_the_article&quot;,&quot;c-Jgera5-2013-07-24T18:22:00.000Z-Splitting_up_the_article&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Splitting up the article&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Splitting up the article&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jgera5-2013-07-13T03:04:00.000Z-Splitting_up_the_article"></span>This article is way too long. You could make a case that the blackout policies, broadcast history, and television coverage sections alone warrant their own pages. If no split, then I suggest we condense the page down as much as we can. Thoughts? <a href="/wiki/User:Jgera5" title="User:Jgera5">Jgera5</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jgera5" title="User talk:Jgera5">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-Jgera5-2013-07-13T03:04:00.000Z-Splitting_up_the_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:04, 13 July 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jgera5-2013-07-13T03:04:00.000Z-Splitting_up_the_article"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-13T03:04:00.000Z","author":"Jgera5","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jgera5-2013-07-13T03:04:00.000Z-Splitting_up_the_article","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jgera5-2013-07-13T03:04:00.000Z-Splitting_up_the_article"></span> </p><p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jgera5-2013-07-24T18:22:00.000Z-Splitting_up_the_article"></span>UPDATE</b> After nearly two weeks of no comments, I decided to split the blackout policies and the history into their own articles. Not sure if any more splitting or cleanup needs to be done, but this is a start in the right direction. <a href="/wiki/User:Jgera5" title="User:Jgera5">Jgera5</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jgera5" title="User talk:Jgera5">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-Jgera5-2013-07-24T18:22:00.000Z-Splitting_up_the_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:22, 24 July 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jgera5-2013-07-24T18:22:00.000Z-Splitting_up_the_article"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-24T18:22:00.000Z","author":"Jgera5","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jgera5-2013-07-24T18:22:00.000Z-Splitting_up_the_article","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jgera5-2013-07-24T18:22:00.000Z-Splitting_up_the_article"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-50.136.139.204-2015-11-08T19:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Giants_and_Jets-2015-11-08T19:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-50.136.139.204-2015-11-08T19:49:00.000Z-Giants_and_Jets&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Giants and Jets&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Giants and Jets&quot;}--><h2 id="Giants_and_Jets" data-mw-thread-id="h-Giants_and_Jets-2015-11-08T19:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Giants_and_Jets-2015-11-08T19:49:00.000Z"></span>Giants and Jets<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Giants_and_Jets-2015-11-08T19:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=27" title="Edit section: Giants and Jets"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-50.136.139.204-2015-11-08T19:49:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Giants_and_Jets-2015-11-08T19:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-50.136.139.204-2015-11-08T19:49:00.000Z-Giants_and_Jets"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-50.136.139.204-2015-11-08T19:49:00.000Z-Giants_and_Jets","timestamp":"2015-11-08T19:49:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-50.136.139.204-2015-11-08T19:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Giants_and_Jets-2015-11-08T19:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-50.136.139.204-2015-11-08T19:49:00.000Z-Giants_and_Jets&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Giants and Jets&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Giants and Jets&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-50.136.139.204-2015-11-08T19:49:00.000Z-Giants_and_Jets"></span>The article doesn't mention that viewers in the NYC area can see all three televised afternoon games (no game blacked out) if both the Giants and Jets play day games on the road (one at 1:00 and the other at 4:05 or 4:25). A game can be shown on the other network at the same time as a local team's game if the game is on the road.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/50.136.139.204" title="Special:Contributions/50.136.139.204">50.136.139.204</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:50.136.139.204" title="User talk:50.136.139.204">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NFL_on_American_television#c-50.136.139.204-2015-11-08T19:49:00.000Z-Giants_and_Jets" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:49, 8 November 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-50.136.139.204-2015-11-08T19:49:00.000Z-Giants_and_Jets"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-11-08T19:49:00.000Z","author":"50.136.139.204","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-50.136.139.204-2015-11-08T19:49:00.000Z-Giants_and_Jets","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-50.136.139.204-2015-11-08T19:49:00.000Z-Giants_and_Jets"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Cyberbot_II-2016-02-12T21:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-External_links_modified-2016-02-12T21:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Cyberbot_II-2016-02-12T21:32:00.000Z-External_links_modified&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;External links modified&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;External links modified&quot;}--><h2 id="External_links_modified" data-mw-thread-id="h-External_links_modified-2016-02-12T21:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-External_links_modified-2016-02-12T21:32:00.000Z"></span>External links modified<span data-mw-comment-end="h-External_links_modified-2016-02-12T21:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:NFL_on_American_television&amp;action=edit&amp;section=28" title="Edit section: External links modified"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cyberbot_II-2016-02-12T21:32:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-External_links_modified-2016-02-12T21:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cyberbot_II-2016-02-12T21:32:00.000Z-External_links_modified"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Cyberbot_II-2016-02-12T21:32:00.000Z-External_links_modified","timestamp":"2016-02-12T21:32:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Cyberbot_II-2016-02-12T21:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-External_links_modified-2016-02-12T21:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Cyberbot_II-2016-02-12T21:32:00.000Z-External_links_modified&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;External links modified&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;External links modified&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cyberbot_II-2016-02-12T21:32:00.000Z-External_links_modified"></span>Hello fellow Wikipedians, </p><p>I have just added archive links to one external link on <a href="/wiki/National_Football_League_on_television" class="mw-redirect" title="National Football League on television">National Football League on television</a>. 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