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href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storyCode=191084&sectioncode=26" class="external" target="_blank">250 academics had been killed</a>. Award-winning British journalist Robert Fisk <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=2042" class="external" target="_blank">had warned</a> early that year of the assassinations of Iraqi academics, but few U.S. newspapers picked up on the story.  By the end of 2006, according to<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/higher/iraqs-universities-are-in-meltdown-427316.html" class="external" target="_blank"> <em>The Independent</em></a>, over 470 academics had been killed. Another British paper, <em>The Guardian</em>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2006/dec/12/internationaleducationnews.highereducation" class="external" target="_blank">reported</a> that about 500 academics were killed just from the Universities of Baghdad and Basra alone.</p> <p>Based on multiple sources, the B<em>Russell</em>s Tribunal sifted through such reports and <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://www.brusselstribunal.org/Academics.htm" class="external" target="_blank">published on its website</a> the names of over 400 murdered academics and when they were killed. Although the exact total number of assassinated academics is not really known, the indefatigable advocate for human rights Dirk Adriaensens gives a detailed analysis of the data available so far in his contribution to the book <em><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://us.macmillan.com/culturalcleansinginiraq" class="external" target="_blank">Cultural Cleansing in Iraq</a></em>. According to Adriaensens, most of those killed were from the Universities of Bagdad (57 percent) and Basra (14 percent). In addition, 35 percent died in detention after being arrested/kidnapped by some security forces. The modus operandi for the killings was a professional, well-organized assassination. Fifty-four percent of the deaths occurred as a targeted killing, at point-blank range with hand guns or automatic weapons. The killing of academics did not follow any sectarian agenda since the murdered were Sunni and Shia. No one has taken responsibility for the killings, and no one has been arrested.</p> <p>The reports of these murdered Iraqi academics have been around for a few years, mostly in the foreign press and on websites. I admit to an initial skepticism about their veracity. I was even more concerned about who was responsible for these heinous crimes and why. Iraqis living in Iraq knew of these murders first-hand, but did not know the culprits. Their suspicions fell naturally on the occupying power.</p> <p>Along with these tragic deaths was the concomitant wave of death threats and intimidation against other Iraqi academics, which resulted in tens of thousands of Iraqi academics literally running abroad for their life. <em>The Washington Post </em>recently described the <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/23/AR2010112306747.html" class="external" target="_blank">plight of one Iraqi family</a> living in the United States after the husband, a professor, was assassinated and the wife, a physician, survived but gravely wounded. For some, the escape abroad was only temporary. A<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://iraqiacademicsunderattack.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/two-iraqi-academics-killed-after-their-returning-to-iraq-english-arabic-castellano/" class="external" target="_blank"> professor and a dean</a> who left and returned in the past six months to Iraq were professionally assassinated.  Iraq has suffered the decapitation of its intellectual class on a staggering scale, which has thrown the country back to the dark ages.</p> <p>According to the new revelations of Wikileaks, in some cases the United States, through the military, contractors, and others, killed innocent Iraqi civilians including women and children. As a matter of policy we handed over Iraqi detainees to Iraqi security forces with full knowledge that they would be subjected to torture, rape, and murder. Moreover, when our military received the reports of torture, rape, and murder it chose to ignore them. Such a policy is contrary to international law, U.S. laws, and American values.</p> <p>It’s not clear whether the U.S. government or the U.S. military knows who assassinated the Iraqi academics. We don’t know if U.S. officials or military commanders looked the other way when local security forces committed those crimes. But the Wikileaks documents raise many disturbing questions about a possible U.S. role in these assassinations. Even the Gulf Cooperation Council, and its half-dozen U.S.-friendly Arab members, has <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hiUt15hxCn1JG0tU8iLw_Oj6yb8A?docId=CNG.1c29e0b64ef02ac621d8a8911f61ba89.191" class="external" target="_blank">called on</a> the Obama administration to "open a serious and transparent investigation" into possible "crimes against humanity."</p> <p>The evidence so far is sufficient to warrant a thorough investigation by an independent body. Iraqis, Americans, and the world need to know the truth.</p> <div style="border-right: lightgrey 1px solid; padding-right: 5px; border-top: lightgrey 1px solid; padding-left: 5px; float: right; padding-bottom: 15px; margin: 15px auto 5px; border-left: lightgrey 1px solid; width: 95%; padding-top: 5px; border-bottom: lightgrey 1px solid"> <p><em>Adil E. Shamoo, is a senior analyst for Foreign Policy In Focus, and writes on ethics and public policy. He is a Professor at </em><em>University</em><em> of </em><em>Maryland School</em><em> of Medicine. He can be reached at </em><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/mailto:ashamoo@umaryland.edu"><em>ashamoo@umaryland.edu</em></a><em>.</em></p> </p></div> <div></div> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://www.fpif.org/articles/who_assassinated_iraqi_academics?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FPIF+%28Foreign+Policy+In+Focus+%28All+News%29%29" class="external" target="_blank"><strong>Source: </strong>Foreign Policy In Focus | Who Assassinated Iraqi Academics?</a></p> </div> </div> <hr/> <div class="post clearfix" id="post-11700"> <div class="postmetadata"><span class="comments"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/2010/10/26/exodus/#respond" title="Comment on Exodus">No Comments</a></span> Posted on October 26th, 2010 by Ali</div> <h3><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/2010/10/26/exodus/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Exodus">Exodus</a></h3> <p class="postmetadata">Category: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/category/english-articles/" title="View all posts in English Language Articles" rel="category tag">English Language Articles</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/category/human-rights/" title="View all posts in Human Rights" rel="category tag">Human Rights</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/category/religion/" title="View all posts in Religion" rel="category tag">Religion</a>, Tags: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/al-amin/" rel="tag">al-Amin</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/america/" rel="tag">America</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/arabs/" rel="tag">Arabs</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/arbil/" rel="tag">Arbil</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/archbishop-paul-faraj-kidnapping-and-murder-of/" rel="tag">Archbishop Paul Faraj - 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The mosque’s minarets tower over the cathedral, but the Maronites were built a spanking new archbishop’s house between the two buildings as compensation. Yet every day, the two calls to prayer – the clanging of church bells and the wailing of the muezzin – beat an infernal percussion across the city. Both bells and wails are tape recordings, but they have been turned up to the highest decibel pitch to outdo each other, louder than an aircraft’s roar, almost as crazed as the nightclub music from Gemmayzeh across the square. But the Christians are leaving.</p> <p>Across the Middle East, it is the same story of despairing – sometimes frightened – Christian minorities, and of an exodus that reaches almost Biblical proportions. Almost half of Iraq’s Christians have fled their country since the first Gulf War in 1991, most of them after the 2004 invasion – a weird tribute to the self-proclaimed Christian faith of the two Bush presidents who went to war with Iraq – and stand now at 550,000, scarcely 3 per cent of the population. More than half of Lebanon’s Christians now live outside their country. Once a majority, the nation’s one and a half million Christians, most of them Maronite Catholics, comprise perhaps 35 per cent of the Lebanese. Egypt’s Coptic Christians – there are at most around eight million – now represent less than 10 per cent of the population.</p> <p>This is, however, not so much a flight of fear, more a chronicle of a death foretold. Christians are being outbred by the majority Muslim populations in their countries and they are almost hopelessly divided. In Jerusalem, there are 13 different Christian churches and three patriarchs. A Muslim holds the keys to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre to prevent Armenian and Orthodox priests fighting each other at Easter. </p> <p>When more than 200 members of 14 different churches – some of them divided – gathered in Rome last week for a papal synod on the loss of Christian populations in the lands where Christianity began, it was greeted with boredom or ignored altogether by most of the West’s press.</p> <p>Yet nowhere is the Christian fate sadder than in the territories around Jerusalem. As Monsignor Fouad Twal, the ninth Latin patriarch of Jerusalem and the second to be an Arab, put it bleakly, "the Israelis regard us as 100 per cent Palestinian Arabs and we are oppressed in the same way as the Muslims. But Muslim fundamentalists identify us with the Christian West – which is not always true – and want us to pay the price." With Christian Palestinians in Bethlehem cut off from Jerusalem by the same Israeli wall which imprisons their Muslim brothers, there is now, Twal says, "a young generation of Christians who do not know or visit the Holy Sepulchre".</p> <p>The Jordanian royal family have always protected their Christian population – at 350,000, it is around 6 per cent of the population – but this is perhaps the only flame of hope in the region. The divisions within Christianity proved even more dangerous to their community than the great Sunni-Shia divide did to the Muslims of the Middle East. Even the Crusaders were divided in their 100-year occupation of Palestine, or "Outremer", as they called it. The Lebanese journalist Fady Noun, a Christian, wrote a profound article from Rome last week in which he spoke of the Christian loss as "a great wound haemorrhaging blood", and bemoaned both Christian division and "egoism" for what he saw as a spiritual as well as a physical emigration. "There are those Christians who reach a kind of indifference… in Western countries who, swayed by the culture of these countries and the media, persuade eastern Christians to forget their identity," he wrote.</p> <p>Pope Benedict, whose mournful visit to the Holy Land last year prompted him to call the special synod which ended in the Vatican at the weekend, has adopted his usual perspective – that, despite their difficulties, Christians of the "Holy Land" must reinvigorate their feelings as "living stones" of the Middle Eastern Church. "To live in dignity in your own nation is before everything a fundamental human right," he said. "That is why you must support conditions of peace and justice, which are indispensable for the harmonious development of all the inhabitants of the region." But the Pope’s words sometimes suggested that real peace and justice lay in salvation rather than historical renewal.</p> <p>Patriarch Twal believes that the Pope understood during his trip to Israel and the West Bank last year "the disastrous consequences of the conflict between Jews and Palestinian Arabs" and has stated openly that one of the principal causes of Christian emigration is "the Israeli occupation, the Christians’ lack of freedom of movement, and the economic circumstances in which they live". But he does not see the total disappearance of the Christian faith in the Middle East. "We must have the courage to accept that we are Arabs and Christians and be faithful to this identity. Our wonderful mission is to be a bridge between East and West."</p> <p>One anonymous prelate at the Rome synod, quoted in one of the synod’s working papers, took a more pragmatic view. "Let’s stop saying there is no problem with Muslims; this isn’t true," he said. "The problem doesn’t only come from fundamentalists, but from constitutions. In all the countries of the region except Lebanon, Christians are second-class citizens." If religious freedom is guaranteed in these countries, "it is limited by specific laws and practices". In Egypt, this has certainly been the case since President Sadat referred to himself as "the Muslim president of a Muslim country".</p> <p>The Lebanese Maronite Church – its priests, by the way, can marry – understands all too well how Christians can become aligned with political groups. The Lebanese writer Sami Khalife wrote last week in the French-language newspaper L’Orient-Le Jour – the francophone voice of Lebanon’s Christians – that a loss of moral authority had turned churches in his country into "political actors" which were beginning to sound like political parties. An open letter to the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmedinejad, warning him to try to turn Lebanon into a "front line" against Israel, was signed by 250 Lebanese. Most of them were from the minority Christian community.</p> <p>Nor can the church ignore Saudi Arabia, where Christianity is banned as a religion just as much as the building of churches. Christians cannot visit the Islamic holy cities of Mecca or Medina – the doors of the Vatican and Canterbury Cathedral are at least open to Muslims – and 12 Filipinos and a priest were arrested in Saudi Arabia only this month for "proselytism" for holding a secret mass. There is, perhaps, a certain irony in the fact that the only balance to Christian emigration has been the arrival in the Middle East of perhaps a quarter of a million Christian Filipino guest workers – especially in the Gulf region – while Patriarch Twal reckons that around 40,000 of them now work and live in Israel and "Palestine".</p> <p>Needless to say, it is violence against Christians that occupies the West, a phenomenon nowhere better, or more bloodily, illustrated than by al-Qa’ida’s kidnapping of Archbishop Faraj Rahho in Mosul – an incident recorded in the US military archives revealed on Saturday – and his subsequent murder. When the Iraqi authorities later passed death sentences on two men for the killing, the church asked for them to be reprieved. In Egypt, there has been a gloomy increase in Christian-Muslim violence, especially in ancient villages in the far south of the country; in Cairo, Christian churches are now cordoned off by day-and-night police checkpoints.</p> <p>And while Western Christians routinely deplore the falling Christian populations of the Middle East, their visits to the region tend to concentrate on pilgrimages to Biblical sites rather than meetings with their Christian opposite numbers. </p> <p>Americans, so obsessed by the myths of East-West "clashes of civilisation" since 11 September 2001, often seem to regard Christianity as a "Western" rather than an Eastern religion, neatly separating the Middle East roots of their own religion from the lands of Islam. That in itself is a loss of faith.</p> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-exodus-the-changing-map-of-the-middle-east-2116463.html" class="external" target="_blank">Robert Fisk: Exodus. The changing map of the Middle East – Robert Fisk, Commentators – The Independent</a></p> </div> </div> <hr/> <div class="post clearfix" id="post-11684"> <div class="postmetadata"><span class="comments"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/2010/10/24/%d8%b1%d9%88%d8%a8%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d9%81%d9%8a%d8%b3%d9%83-%d9%81%d8%b6%d8%a7%d8%a6%d8%ad-%d9%88%d9%8a%d9%83%d9%84%d9%8a%d9%83%d8%b3-%d8%b9%d8%a7%d8%b1-%d8%b9%d9%84%d9%89-%d8%a7%d9%85%d8%b1%d9%8a%d9%83/#respond" title="Comment on روبرت فيسك : فضائح ويكليكس عار على امريكا">No Comments</a></span> Posted on October 24th, 2010 by Diya al din</div> <h3><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/2010/10/24/%d8%b1%d9%88%d8%a8%d8%b1%d8%aa-%d9%81%d9%8a%d8%b3%d9%83-%d9%81%d8%b6%d8%a7%d8%a6%d8%ad-%d9%88%d9%8a%d9%83%d9%84%d9%8a%d9%83%d8%b3-%d8%b9%d8%a7%d8%b1-%d8%b9%d9%84%d9%89-%d8%a7%d9%85%d8%b1%d9%8a%d9%83/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to روبرت فيسك : فضائح ويكليكس عار على امريكا">روبرت فيسك : فضائح ويكليكس عار على امريكا</a></h3> <p class="postmetadata">Category: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/category/iraq/" title="View all posts in News" rel="category tag">News</a>, Tags: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/fisk-robert/" rel="tag">Fisk - Robert</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/independent-the-uk/" rel="tag">Independent -The (UK)</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/robert-fisk/" rel="tag">Robert Fisk</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/war-crimes/" rel="tag">War Crimes</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/wikileaks/" rel="tag">Wikileaks</a></p> <div class="entry" dir="rtl" align="right"> <p dir="rtl" align="right"><a title="20101024_fisk_wikileaks_screenshot_200x200 by Gorillas Guides, on Flickr" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://www.flickr.com/photos/27086036@N02/5110232483/" class="external" target="_blank"><img style="display: inline; border: 1px solid black; margin: 5px 15px 5px 0px" height="200" alt="20101024_fisk_wikileaks_screenshot_200x200" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814im_/http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1127/5110232483_47bc159597_o.jpg" width="300" align="left"/></a>لندن: قال روبرت فيسك الخبير في شؤون الشرق الاوسط أن العرب يعرفون كل شيء عن التعذيب الذي يجري في العراق ، واطلاق النار غير المشروع على المدنيين، واستخدام القصف الجوي للمنازل</p> <p dir="rtl" align="right">، والاستعانة بمرتزقة من الاميركيين والبريطانيين ، ومقابر القتلى الأبرياء في العراق"، واضاف في مقال كتبه بصحيفة الاندبندنت تحت عنوان "عار أميركا"، "أننا نحن فقط يمكننا أن ندعي أننا لم نعرف ، فقط نحن في الغرب قادرون على مواجهة كل ادعاء، ضد الأميركيين أو البريطانيين وإقامة سياج من الاكاذيب حولنا ، مشيراً إلى أن "الحديث عن أي شخص تعرض للتعذيب يعتبرونه دعاية إرهابية، واكتشاف مقتل كل الأطفال داخل منزل في غارة جوية أميركية يصبح أيضا نوعا من الدعاية الإرهابية، أو "أضرارا جانبية"، أو ذلك التعبير البسيط "ليس لدينا معلومات حول ذلك . وبقول فيسك  "لدينا مادة يمكن ان تصبح أساسا للمحامين في المحاكم". وأوضح الأمر بقوله  " السلطات العراقية كانت قد حظرت تشريح جثث العراقيين القتلى التي تصل إلى مشرحة بغداد لأنهم قتلوا أثناء تعذيبهم بايدي عراقيين يعملون لحساب قوات الاحتلال الأميركية واعتبر فيسك أن ما يثير حنق الجنرالات الأميركيين "ليس الكشف عن الوثائق السرية ولا لأن هناك دماء أريقت ولكن لأنهم ضبطوا وهم يكذبون كما نعلم جميعا</p> </div> </div> <hr/> <div class="post clearfix" id="post-11544"> <div class="postmetadata"><span class="comments"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/2010/10/04/interview-with-robert-fisk-we-preach-democracy-yet-befriend-dictators-new-internationalist/#respond" title="Comment on Interview with Robert Fisk: we preach democracy yet befriend dictators — New Internationalist">No Comments</a></span> Posted on October 4th, 2010 by Diya al din</div> <h3><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/2010/10/04/interview-with-robert-fisk-we-preach-democracy-yet-befriend-dictators-new-internationalist/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Interview with Robert Fisk: we preach democracy yet befriend dictators — New Internationalist">Interview with Robert Fisk: we preach democracy yet befriend dictators — New Internationalist</a></h3> <p class="postmetadata">Category: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/category/english-articles/" title="View all posts in English Language Articles" rel="category tag">English Language Articles</a>, Tags: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/arab-countries/" rel="tag">arab countries</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/canada/" rel="tag">Canada</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/democracy/" rel="tag">Democracy</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/egypt/" rel="tag">Egypt</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/elections/" rel="tag">Elections</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/eu/" rel="tag">EU</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/history/" rel="tag">History</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/human-rights/" rel="tag">Human Rights</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/human-rights-watch/" rel="tag">Human Rights Watch</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/lebanon/" rel="tag">Lebanon</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/middle-east/" rel="tag">Middle East</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/palestinians/" rel="tag">palestinians</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/robert-fisk/" rel="tag">Robert Fisk</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/saddam/" rel="tag">Saddam</a></p> <div class="entry" dir="rtl" align="right"> <p><strong>How is Western-style democracy seen in the Middle East these days?</strong></p> <p>In Europe there seems to be less and less democracy. There’s more and more presidential government; members of parliament simply don’t have any power any more. People in the Middle East read about the West as we read about the Middle East. They are aware of conversations about the ‘democratic deficit’; they are aware of the degree to which voters in the West seem increasingly distanced from their representatives. So a lot of the people I talk to in the Middle East are asking why we are trying to preach democracy when we don’t have a lot ourselves.</p> <p>There’s a good deal of cynicism about the word.</p> <p>I think many people here would like quite a lot of democracy; they would like some packages of human rights off our supermarket shelf. But what they talk about is injustice ñ and justice is something that I don’t think we’re interested in giving to the Middle East. </p> <p> <a title="fisk_quote by Gorillas Guides, on Flickr" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://www.flickr.com/photos/27086036@N02/5051936724/" class="external" target="_blank"><img style="display: inline; margin: 5px 15px 5px 0px" height="483" alt="fisk_quote" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814im_/http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4108/5051936724_9b04a00410_o.jpg" width="300" align="left"/></a> <p><strong>Elections are central to the Western idea of democracy. What effect have they had in the Middle East?</strong></p> <p>The effects have been grotesque. Every president claims to have a fair election and every presidential election is rigged, which is why you hear that Mr Mubarak gets 98 per cent of the vote and Saddam used to get 100 per cent. It’s a mockery, but what’s interesting is that people seem to think it adds legitimacy to have an election ñ even if it’s totally rigged. They want to say: ‘We have elections too, we have a parliament, we have a president, we elect him’, even though we all know that in those Arab countries where there are elections ñ with the exception of Lebanon, where there is some fairness in the process ñ it doesn’t really count. </p> <p>Elections here [in the Middle East] are a tool, they are a device; they are not meant to explain the thinking of the people: they are meant to explain the thinking of the man who is going to be elected.</p> <p>So in the Middle East you have mock elections which are supposed to be real ones; in the West we have real ones that often turn out to be mock in the sense that our MPs don’t do what we want them to do. At least in the West we can be sure that the votes are tallied; they are not tipped into the Nile or burned overnight in the Ministry of the Interior. </p> <p>But what we have done is that we have enshrined our own democracies while propping up dictatorships in the Middle East, which are allowed to play democracy. We were best friends of Saddam for many years. We love Mubarak, who is a ‘moderate’, even though when you have presidential elections in places like Egypt you know it’s a lie. </p> <p><strong>So what’s to be done?</strong></p> <p>Are we saying: have some democracy and you will be just like us? Or are we cheating them by saying that? We believe in justice but we do not dispense justice in the Middle East, do we? I mean, just look at the place. We have no intention of letting the Palestinians get their homes back. We preach justice but I don’t think we are interested in it. </p> <p>There is a great understanding in the Middle East of what history has done to it and what we [the West] have done in history. So I’m not really sure that they always want to buy our products, like human rights or democracy ñ because we have not always demonstrated them to them. Very often we’ve bombed them, in fact.</p> <p>Quite a lot of people used to say to me when I gave lectures in the US, Canada, Europe: ‘What can we do?’ I used to say: join Amnesty or Human Rights Watch. Now I say: come and have a look at the Middle East and learn about it. We can write about the injustice in the region so that people understand why the incendiary fury that people feel towards the West, towards each other, exists. We certainly can’t preach our wonderful political lives.</p> <p><strong>Source:</strong> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://www.newint.org/features/2010/10/01/robert-fisk-interview-democracy-dictators/" class="external" target="_blank">Interview with Robert Fisk: we preach democracy yet befriend dictators — New Internationalist</a></p> </div> </div> <hr/> <div class="post clearfix" id="post-9028"> <div class="postmetadata"><span class="comments"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/2010/03/09/%d9%81%d9%8a%d8%b3%d9%83-%d9%84%d9%84%d8%b9%d8%b1%d8%a7%d9%82%d9%8a%d9%8a%d9%86-%d9%84%d8%a7-%d8%af%d9%8a%d9%85%d9%82%d8%b1%d8%a7%d8%b7%d9%8a%d8%a9-%d8%aa%d8%ad%d8%aa-%d8%a7%d9%84%d8%a7%d8%ad%d8%aa/#respond" title="Comment on فيسك للعراقيين: لا ديمقراطية تحت الاحتلال">No Comments</a></span> Posted on March 9th, 2010 by Fatima Jameel</div> <h3><a 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href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/elections-legitimacy-of/" rel="tag">Elections - legitimacy of</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/fisk-robert/" rel="tag">Fisk - Robert</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/independent-the-uk/" rel="tag">Independent -The (UK)</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/march-7th-2010/" rel="tag">March 7th 2010</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/robert-fisk/" rel="tag">Robert Fisk</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/sectarian-government/" rel="tag">sectarian government</a></p> <div class="entry" dir="rtl" align="right"> <div dir="rtl" align="right"> <p>قال الكاتب البريطاني روبرت فيسك إن الشعب العراقي يسير مجددا وسط مظاهر العنف ونيران التفجيرات كي يحقق ديمقراطية وفق معايير الغرب، وأضاف أنه لا يمكن للديمقراطية أن تعطي أكلها في أي بلد يرزح شعبه تحت نير الاحتلال الأجنبي.</p> <p>وأشار فيسك في مقال نشرته له صحيفة إندبندنت البريطانية إلى أن الشعب العراقي مشى بعشرات الآلاف عام 2005 وسط أجواء التفجيرات المرعبة كي يدلي بصوته في الانتخابات البرلمانية الأولى التي تشهدها البلاد.</p> <p><a title="20100309_screen_shot_fisk_article_election" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814/http://www.flickr.com/photos/27086036@N02/4420671684/" class="external" target="_blank"><img style="border-right: silver 2px solid; border-top: silver 2px solid; display: inline; margin: 5px 15px 5px 0px; border-left: silver 2px solid; border-bottom: silver 2px solid" alt="20100309_screen_shot_fisk_article_election" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130129010814im_/http://static.flickr.com/2759/4420671684_a635a3ff8c.jpg" align="left"/></a>وقال إنه بينما نفذ الشيعة عام 2005 أوامر وتعليمات رؤساء الطوائف لديهم بضرورة أداء الواجب الانتخابي في الديمقراطية الوليدة، عزف السنة عن المشاركة وأعلنوا مقاطعتهم لها.</p> <p>وأضاف أنه بينما لا يزال الشيعة ممن كانوا على علاقة وطيدة بنظام الرئيس العراقي الراحل صدام حسين في وظائفهم والذين يعتقد أن العراقيين ذهبوا البارحة لانتخابهم، جرى مؤخرا حرمان مئات المرشحين -وغالبيتهم من السنة- من حقهم في مواصلة الترشح للانتخابات البرلمانية بدعوى علاقتهم السابقة بحزب البعث، مما يشير إلى عودة البلاد إلى السياسات الطائفية العنصرية.</p> <p>ومضى إلى أن النظام الانتخابي في العراق وفق القوانين الجديدة لا يسمح لأي حزب بتشكيل الحكومة بمفرده، ولذا تشكلت الجبهات والتحالفات حتى وصلت إلى قرابة 86 من الكيانات التي قدمت أكثر من ستة آلاف مرشح لخوض الانتخابات، متسائلا عما إذا كانت الحكومة الجديدة ستتشكل وفقا لأعداد كل من السنة والشيعة والأكراد في البلاد أم لا.</p> <p>وقال الكاتب إن الغرب طالما فضل في الشرق الأوسط الديمقراطيات التي تأخذ في الحسبان تشكيل حكومات تبعا للثقل السياسي التقليدي لكل طائفة، تماما كما حدث في أيرلندا الشمالية وقبرص، أو كما فعل الفرنسيون في لبنان.</p> <p>وأضاف أن المستعمر الغربي طالما استخدم الفزاعة المناسبة ليخيف بها الشعوب الواقعة تحت الاحتلال، ففي حال الأفغان يتم إخافتهم بعودة حركة طالبان، وفي حال العراق يخوفون بعودة نظام صدام، وفي حال قبرص ولبنان كان المستعمر يخيفهم بعودة العثمانيين الأتراك.</p> <p>وقال فيسك إنه بغض النظر عما تفرز الانتخابات العراقية وعن عوامل التزوير والتعقيد التي شابتها، فإنه لن يتم تشكيل الحكومة العراقية الجديدة لشهور قادمة، مضيفا أنه إذا فاز بالانتخابات أي أحد، فإن إيران -التي وصف رئيسها محمود أحمدي نجاد بالتمتع بالخبرة في معالجة "الانتخابات الديمقراطية"- ستكون هي المنتصر الأكبر ودون أن تطلق رصاصة واحدة.</p> <p>ورغم أن السياسيين من سنة العراق يتهمون إيران بالتدخل في شؤون بلادهم على المستويين العسكري والسياسي، فإن طهران ليست بحاجة هذه المرة للتدخل بالشأن العراقي بعد أن صارت الأحزاب التي تحكم العراق ممن ترعرعت في أحضان الجمهورية الإيرانية.</p> <p>وبينما وصف فيسك العراقيين بالشجعان بالفعل، تساءل عن عدد البريطانيين أو الأمريكيين الذين يمكن لهم أن يجازفوا بحياتهم كي يدلون بأصواتهم وسط نيران قذائف المورتر.</p> <p>ومضى بالقول إن المسلمين ليسوا هم من لا يرغبون في الحرية أو الديمقراطية، 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