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href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bladsyverwydering" title="Wikipedia:Bladsyverwydering">Wikipedia:Bladsyverwydering</a></bdi></div></div></div> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="af" dir="ltr"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik" data-mw-thread-id="h-Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik-2018-06-10T09:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik-2018-06-10T09:27:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik" title="Geaffekteerde taalgebruik">Geaffekteerde taalgebruik</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik-2018-06-10T09:27:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Bladsyverwydering/Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section's source code: Geaffekteerde taalgebruik"><span>wysig bron</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <table style="text-align:center; float:right; clear:right; margin: 0.5em 0 0 0; border-style: solid; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 100%;" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <th bgcolor="#EEEEEE"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suidpunt-2018-06-10T09:27:00.000Z-Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik"></span>Sperdatum: </th></tr> <tr> <td>24 Junie 2018 </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span id="Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik"></span><span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/wiki/Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik" title="Geaffekteerde taalgebruik">Geaffekteerde taalgebruik</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://af.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik&action=edit">wysig</a> | <a href="/wiki/Bespreking:Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik" title="Bespreking:Geaffekteerde taalgebruik">bespreking</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://af.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik&action=history">geskiedenis</a><span class="sysop-show"> | <a class="external text" href="https://af.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik&action=protect">beskerm</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://af.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik&action=delete">skrap</a></span> | <a class="external text" href="https://af.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spesiaal:Skakels_hierheen/Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik&limit=999">skakels</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://af.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik&action=watch">hou dop</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://af.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spesiaal:Log&page=Geaffekteerde+taalgebruik">logs</a> | <a class="external text" href="//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?pages=Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik&project=af.wikipedia.org">bladtrekke</a>)</span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/L%C3%AAer:Symbol_delete_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Verwyder</b> Hiermee nomineer ek my eie aangemaakte artikel om die volgende redes:</li></ul> <p>- Ek was vreeslik naïef en bevooroordeeld toe ek die artikel geskryf het. Dis in die jare voordat ek iets van kousaliteit en logika geweet het. </p><p>- Hierdie deel van die sosiolinguistiek is wat my betref, uiters subjektief geskryf, ook in die bronne. [Ek sal eerder in die vervolg oor Huskies of waterstofmotors skryf]. </p><p>- 'n Taal kan verander woord soos die deursnitspreker of die Taalkommissie of die media wil hê dit moet verander. Wie teen hierdie stroom ingaan sal of matig afwyk, of "keuriger" praat, of "verouderd" praat. As ek 'n duidelike onderskeid tref tussen "brand" en "vuur" terwyl die RSG-omroepers slegs van "vuur" praat - byvoorbeeld "Die vuur het versprei..." - dan is ek reg en die uitsaailiggaam verkeerd. Solank die WAT en die Taalkommissie dit so insien. Word my onderskeid deur hierdie liggame geskrap - wat my taalgebruik steeds geskiedkundig korrek maak - dan is ek verouderd. Spreek ek 'n Superstandaardafrikaans - nee, wel 'n soort tussentaal - tussen Afrikaans en Nederlands. </p><p>- Wat subjektiwiteit betref: jy gaan 'n klomp mense kry wat Nederlands verhewe bo Afrikaans beskou, en dan gaan jy diegene kry wat Nederlands en Afrikaans as gelykes beskou. Die invloed van Neerlandismes gaan dus hetsy dui op "gepoleerde" Afrikaans, geaffekteerde Afrikaans, of Afrikaans wat eenvoudig Nederlandse woorde nuttig omrede die Afrikaans taaleie net nie genoeg seggingskrag het nie. </p><p>- Sal dit verhewe of geaffekteerd wees om van "steier" pleks van "jetty" in die omgangstaal te praat? Die tweetalige woordeboeke in my besit weet nie eens "steier" is die korrekte benaming vir "jetty" nie. Gewoonlik as iemand van "steier" praat, dink mense aan die stellasie waarop die hoenders slaap. Of, ek "steier" agteruit [werkwoord]. Ek dink ook hier waar ek "eventueel" sal gebruik vir "moontlik" of "partikulier" vir "persoonlike" - jou deursnitspreker is eenvoudig net te onkundig. Of, is ek te neerlandisties? </p><p>- En nou dat ons oor Engelse woorde praat. Jy gaan ryk mense kry wat hul taal vermeng, jy gaan arm mense kry wat hul tale meng, jy gaan ongeskooldes kry wat hul tale meng, jy gaan opgevoede tegnici kry wat steeds van 'n "wrench" (skroefsleutel) praat, en aan beide kante van die politieke spektrum gaan mense hul tale meng. Soms doelbewus [komiese effek], soms onbewustelik [net om die gedagte/idee/denkbeeld oor te dra]. Ek weet daar is 'n boek <i>Taalverskeidenheid</i> (1983) waarin geskryf word oor "Taalstratifikasie van Kaaps" ens. Maar dit bring my by die volgende paar punte: </p><p>- My grootste kritiek teen die artikel, afgesien van die oordadige veralgemenings: </p><p>1. 'n Dialek wyk in alle vorme van die standaardtaal af, nie slegs bietjie hier en bietjie daar nie. Om Superstandaardafrikaans as 'n dialek te eien is 'n sonderlike verskynsel. Dit beteken ten eerste dis 'n natuurlike taal wat saam met die moedersmelk en goue lepel ingejaag word, dit is 'n "natuurlike" spraak/taal, en selfs die uitspraak verskil opmerklik van die uitsaaiwese. Vergelyk byvoorbeeld "Haags" met Algemeen Beskaafde Nederlands / Standaardnederlands. Afrikaans het dit eenvoudig nie. </p><p>2. Afrikaans het géén superstandaardafrikaans of afsonderlike dialek van hogere klasse nie. Want ons het geen koning of heersersklasse nie.<a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Suidpunt" title="Gebruiker:Suidpunt">Suidpunt</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Suidpunt" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Suidpunt">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bladsyverwydering/Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik#c-Suidpunt-2018-06-10T09:27:00.000Z-Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:27, 10 Junie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suidpunt-2018-06-10T09:27:00.000Z-Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">antwoord</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-10T09:27:00.000Z","author":"Suidpunt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Suidpunt-2018-06-10T09:27:00.000Z-Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik","replies":["c-Aliwal2012-2018-06-10T10:22:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2018-06-10T09:27:00.000Z","c-K175-2018-06-30T11:13:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2018-06-10T09:27:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suidpunt-2018-06-10T09:27:00.000Z-Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aliwal2012-2018-06-10T10:22:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2018-06-10T09:27:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/L%C3%AAer:Symbol_keep_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Hou</b>: Ek vind nie veel verkeerd hiermee nie! --<a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Aliwal2012" title="Gebruiker:Aliwal2012">Aliwal2012</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Aliwal2012" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Aliwal2012">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bladsyverwydering/Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik#c-Aliwal2012-2018-06-10T10:22:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2018-06-10T09:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:22, 10 Junie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aliwal2012-2018-06-10T10:22:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2018-06-10T09:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">antwoord</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-10T10:22:00.000Z","author":"Aliwal2012","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Aliwal2012-2018-06-10T10:22:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2018-06-10T09:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aliwal2012-2018-06-10T10:22:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2018-06-10T09:27:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-K175-2018-06-30T11:13:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2018-06-10T09:27:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/L%C3%AAer:Symbol_keep_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Hou</b>: die artikel is 'n goeie voorbeeld van 'n ensiklopediese artikel en die onderwerp is noemenswaardig. Ek stel voor dit word gehou. K175 (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:K175" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruikerbespreking:K175">bespreking</a> | <a href="/wiki/Spesiaal:Bydraes/K175" title="Spesiaal:Bydraes/K175">bydraes</a>) <a href="https://af.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bladsyverwydering/Geaffekteerde_taalgebruik#c-K175-2018-06-30T11:13:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2018-06-10T09:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:13, 30 Junie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-K175-2018-06-30T11:13:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2018-06-10T09:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">antwoord</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-30T11:13:00.000Z","author":"K175","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-K175-2018-06-30T11:13:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2018-06-10T09:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-K175-2018-06-30T11:13:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2018-06-10T09:27:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.eqiad.main‐7c55db6c78‐t2j4k Cached time: 20241027080744 Cache expiry: 2592000 Reduced expiry: false Complications: [] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.006 seconds CPU time usage: 0.028 seconds Real time usage: 0.061 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 51/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 2199/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 288/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 5/100 Expensive parser function count: 0/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 0/5000000 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 30.105 1 -total 67.56% 20.340 1 Sjabloon:Skrapdatum 12.10% 3.644 1 Sjabloon:Skakels 11.27% 3.394 1 Sjabloon:Verwyder 7.89% 2.374 2 Sjabloon:Hou --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key afwiki:pcache:idhash:139675-0!canonical and timestamp 20241027080744 and revision id 1683781. 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