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<ul id="toc-Portal_moves_to_WikiProjects-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_GA_nomination_of_Elfern" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_GA_nomination_of_Elfern"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">5</span> <span>Your GA nomination of Elfern</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Your_GA_nomination_of_Elfern-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Assistance_on_German_translation?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Assistance_on_German_translation?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">6</span> <span>Assistance on German translation?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Assistance_on_German_translation?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Where_to_sort_section_"References",_or,_what_about_later_Refs" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Where_to_sort_section_"References",_or,_what_about_later_Refs"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7</span> <span>Where to sort section "References", or, what about later Refs</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Where_to_sort_section_"References",_or,_what_about_later_Refs-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Deutscher_Eintrag_zu_EnglischMatthiasvon_(talk)_12:27,_18_October_2019_(UTC)[1]" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Deutscher_Eintrag_zu_EnglischMatthiasvon_(talk)_12:27,_18_October_2019_(UTC)[1]"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">8</span> <span>Deutscher Eintrag zu EnglischMatthiasvon (talk) 12:27, 18 October 2019 (UTC)<sup><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></sup></span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Deutscher_Eintrag_zu_EnglischMatthiasvon_(talk)_12:27,_18_October_2019_(UTC)[1]-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Playing_card_rules" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Playing_card_rules"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9</span> <span>Playing card rules</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Playing_card_rules-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Workshop_for_the_creation_of_new_Portal_Guidelines" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Workshop_for_the_creation_of_new_Portal_Guidelines"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>Workshop for the creation of new Portal Guidelines</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Workshop_for_the_creation_of_new_Portal_Guidelines-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Regions_of_Germany" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Regions_of_Germany"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>Regions of Germany</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Regions_of_Germany-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Please_review" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Please_review"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>Please review</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Please_review-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Nertz" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Nertz"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>Nertz</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Nertz-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Kaschlan" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Kaschlan"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>DYK for Kaschlan</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Kaschlan-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Precious_anniversary" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Precious_anniversary"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>Precious anniversary</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Precious_anniversary-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Hills_of_Wiltshire" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Hills_of_Wiltshire"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>Hills of Wiltshire</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Hills_of_Wiltshire-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wörschachklamm" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wörschachklamm"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>Wörschachklamm</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Wörschachklamm-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_goat_for_you!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_goat_for_you!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>A goat for you!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-A_goat_for_you!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-re:_Help_with_19th_century_Polish" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#re:_Help_with_19th_century_Polish"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>re: Help with 19th century Polish</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-re:_Help_with_19th_century_Polish-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Bräus" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Bräus"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>DYK for Bräus</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Bräus-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Dreeg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Dreeg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>DYK for Dreeg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Dreeg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wiese" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wiese"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span>Wiese</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Wiese-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Lordship" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Lordship"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>Lordship</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Lordship-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Brus_(card_game)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Brus_(card_game)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>DYK for Brus (card game)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Brus_(card_game)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Translation_request" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Translation_request"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>Translation request</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Translation_request-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Drużbart" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Drużbart"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>DYK for Drużbart</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Drużbart-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Matzlfangen" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Matzlfangen"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>Matzlfangen</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Matzlfangen-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Taroc_l'Hombre" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Taroc_l'Hombre"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>DYK for Taroc l'Hombre</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Taroc_l'Hombre-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Husarln" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Husarln"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span>DYK for Husarln</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Husarln-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Robert_Sedlaczek" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Robert_Sedlaczek"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>Robert Sedlaczek</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Robert_Sedlaczek-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Request_of_translation_of_a_German_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Request_of_translation_of_a_German_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>Request of translation of a German page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Request_of_translation_of_a_German_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Bruus" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Bruus"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>DYK for Bruus</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Bruus-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Kukurtlu" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Kukurtlu"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>Kukurtlu</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Kukurtlu-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Translation_request_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Translation_request_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>Translation request</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Translation_request_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Helleberg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Helleberg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>Helleberg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Helleberg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Czechia_and_Names_of_Things" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Czechia_and_Names_of_Things"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>Czechia and Names of Things</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Czechia_and_Names_of_Things-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Saxon_Switzerland_Climbing_Region" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Saxon_Switzerland_Climbing_Region"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>Saxon Switzerland Climbing Region</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Saxon_Switzerland_Climbing_Region-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Missing_cite_in_The_Compleat_Gamester" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Missing_cite_in_The_Compleat_Gamester"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>Missing cite in The Compleat Gamester</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Missing_cite_in_The_Compleat_Gamester-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Game_of_Tarot" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Game_of_Tarot"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>Game of Tarot</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Game_of_Tarot-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Penneech" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Penneech"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>DYK for Penneech</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Penneech-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Translation_help" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Translation_help"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span>Translation help</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Translation_help-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Dominoes" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Dominoes"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>Dominoes</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Dominoes-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Oh_Hell_game" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Oh_Hell_game"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">43</span> <span>Oh Hell game</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Oh_Hell_game-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-King_Card_Game" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#King_Card_Game"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">44</span> <span>King Card Game</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-King_Card_Game-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Apologies" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Apologies"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">45</span> <span>Apologies</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Apologies-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-German_castle_terminology_can_NOT_be_translated_ad_litteram_into_English!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#German_castle_terminology_can_NOT_be_translated_ad_litteram_into_English!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">46</span> <span>German castle terminology can NOT be translated <i>ad litteram</i> into English!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-German_castle_terminology_can_NOT_be_translated_ad_litteram_into_English!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Precious_anniversary_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Precious_anniversary_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">47</span> <span>Precious anniversary</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Precious_anniversary_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Water_castle" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Water_castle"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">48</span> <span>Water castle</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Water_castle-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Translation_of_Trenton_Joel_Tollakson_Wikipedia_Page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Translation_of_Trenton_Joel_Tollakson_Wikipedia_Page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">49</span> <span>Translation of Trenton Joel Tollakson Wikipedia Page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Translation_of_Trenton_Joel_Tollakson_Wikipedia_Page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Weser_Renaissance" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Weser_Renaissance"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">50</span> <span>Weser Renaissance</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Weser_Renaissance-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Need_help_to_get_an_article_translated" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Need_help_to_get_an_article_translated"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">51</span> <span>Need help to get an article translated</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Need_help_to_get_an_article_translated-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Eder_river" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Eder_river"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">52</span> <span>Eder river</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Eder_river-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Ace-Ten_games" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Ace-Ten_games"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">53</span> <span>Ace-Ten games</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Ace-Ten_games-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Animal_Tarot" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Animal_Tarot"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">54</span> <span>Animal Tarot</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Animal_Tarot-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Dreierles" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Dreierles"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">55</span> <span>DYK for Dreierles</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Dreierles-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Sfn_errors" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Sfn_errors"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">56</span> <span>Sfn errors</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Sfn_errors-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Comet_(card_game)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Comet_(card_game)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">57</span> <span>DYK for Comet (card game)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Comet_(card_game)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-WP:V" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#WP:V"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">58</span> <span>WP:V</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-WP:V-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Again?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Again?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">59</span> <span>Again?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Again?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Missing_language_links_for_flat_wagon" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Missing_language_links_for_flat_wagon"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">60</span> <span>Missing language links for flat wagon</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Missing_language_links_for_flat_wagon-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Reverting_"entered_into_service"_versus_"taken_into_service"" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Reverting_"entered_into_service"_versus_"taken_into_service""> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">61</span> <span>Reverting "entered into service" versus "taken into service"</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Reverting_"entered_into_service"_versus_"taken_into_service"-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Discussion_at_Frisians" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Discussion_at_Frisians"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">62</span> <span>Discussion at Frisians</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Discussion_at_Frisians-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-In_other_languages" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#In_other_languages"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">63</span> <span>In other languages</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-In_other_languages-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Trictrac" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Trictrac"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">64</span> <span>DYK for Trictrac</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Trictrac-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Jacquet_(game)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Jacquet_(game)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">65</span> <span>DYK for Jacquet (game)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Jacquet_(game)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Irish_(game)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Irish_(game)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">66</span> <span>DYK for Irish (game)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Irish_(game)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Revert_of_Altes_Schloss_(Bad_Berneck)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Revert_of_Altes_Schloss_(Bad_Berneck)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">67</span> <span>Revert of Altes Schloss (Bad Berneck)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Revert_of_Altes_Schloss_(Bad_Berneck)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Ticktack" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Ticktack"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">68</span> <span>DYK for Ticktack</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Ticktack-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Ludus_Anglicorum" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Ludus_Anglicorum"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">69</span> <span>DYK for Ludus Anglicorum</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Ludus_Anglicorum-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Doublets_(tables_game)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Doublets_(tables_game)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">70</span> <span>DYK for Doublets (tables game)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Doublets_(tables_game)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Lower_case_names" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Lower_case_names"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">71</span> <span>Lower case names</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Lower_case_names-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Opole:_relevance" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Opole:_relevance"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">72</span> <span>Opole: relevance</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Opole:_relevance-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Translation_request_3" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Translation_request_3"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">73</span> <span>Translation request</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Translation_request_3-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-in_friendship" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#in_friendship"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">74</span> <span>in friendship</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-in_friendship-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Kamienna_Góra" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Kamienna_Góra"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">75</span> <span>Kamienna Góra</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Kamienna_Góra-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Always_precious" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Always_precious"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">76</span> <span>Always precious</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Always_precious-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Solitaire_articles_and_WP:RS" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Solitaire_articles_and_WP:RS"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">77</span> <span>Solitaire articles and WP:RS</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Solitaire_articles_and_WP:RS-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Category:Nazi_personnel_who_resisted_the_Holocaust" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Category:Nazi_personnel_who_resisted_the_Holocaust"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">78</span> <span>Category:Nazi personnel who resisted the Holocaust</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Category:Nazi_personnel_who_resisted_the_Holocaust-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Rosamund's_Bower" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Rosamund's_Bower"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">79</span> <span>DYK for Rosamund's Bower</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Rosamund's_Bower-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">80</span> <span>I have sent you a note about a page you started</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_German_Tarok" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_German_Tarok"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">81</span> <span>DYK for German Tarok</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_German_Tarok-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Translation_request_4" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Translation_request_4"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">82</span> <span>Translation request</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Translation_request_4-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Six-Bid_Solo" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Six-Bid_Solo"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">83</span> <span>DYK for Six-Bid Solo</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Six-Bid_Solo-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Sources" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Sources"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">84</span> <span>Sources</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Sources-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Pronouns" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Pronouns"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">85</span> <span>Pronouns</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Pronouns-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-If_memory_serves" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#If_memory_serves"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">86</span> <span>If memory serves</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-If_memory_serves-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Siegessäulen" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Siegessäulen"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">87</span> <span><i>Siegessäulen</i></span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Siegessäulen-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Missing_cite_in_Glossary_of_domino_terms" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Missing_cite_in_Glossary_of_domino_terms"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">88</span> <span>Missing cite in Glossary of domino terms</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Missing_cite_in_Glossary_of_domino_terms-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Beuth" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Beuth"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">89</span> <span>Beuth</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Beuth-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Backgammon" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Backgammon"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">90</span> <span>Backgammon</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Backgammon-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Missing_citations_at_Glossary_of_card_game_terms" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Missing_citations_at_Glossary_of_card_game_terms"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">91</span> <span>Missing citations at Glossary of card game terms</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Missing_citations_at_Glossary_of_card_game_terms-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">92</span> <span>Happy New Year, Bermicourt!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Copying_within_Wikipedia" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Copying_within_Wikipedia"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">93</span> <span>Copying within Wikipedia</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Copying_within_Wikipedia-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thanks_for_reworking_Kriegsberg_Tower!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thanks_for_reworking_Kriegsberg_Tower!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">94</span> <span>Thanks for reworking Kriegsberg Tower!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Thanks_for_reworking_Kriegsberg_Tower!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">95</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for April 2</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_12" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_12"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">96</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for April 12</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_12-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Nomination_of_Děčín_Weir_for_deletion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Nomination_of_Děčín_Weir_for_deletion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">97</span> <span>Nomination of Děčín Weir for deletion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Nomination_of_Děčín_Weir_for_deletion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Nomination_of_Hoy_(Lake_Constance)_for_deletion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Nomination_of_Hoy_(Lake_Constance)_for_deletion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">98</span> <span>Nomination of Hoy (Lake Constance) for deletion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Nomination_of_Hoy_(Lake_Constance)_for_deletion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-"Glawnoje_Raswedywatelnoje_Uprawlenije"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#"Glawnoje_Raswedywatelnoje_Uprawlenije"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">99</span> <span>"Glawnoje Raswedywatelnoje Uprawlenije" listed at Redirects for discussion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-"Glawnoje_Raswedywatelnoje_Uprawlenije"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Slobberhannes" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Slobberhannes"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">100</span> <span>Slobberhannes</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Slobberhannes-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-{{R_from_sort_name}}" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#{{R_from_sort_name}}"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">101</span> <span><span>{{</span>R from sort name<span>}}</span></span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-{{R_from_sort_name}}-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Fallacies_regarding_Canoe" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Fallacies_regarding_Canoe"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">102</span> <span>Fallacies regarding Canoe</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Fallacies_regarding_Canoe-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Treppenrommé" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Treppenrommé"> <div 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href="#MfD_nomination_of_Portal:Eifel"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">124</span> <span>MfD nomination of Portal:Eifel</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-MfD_nomination_of_Portal:Eifel-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Need_MGH_help" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Need_MGH_help"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">125</span> <span>Need MGH help</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Need_MGH_help-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-R_E_T_I_R_E_D" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#R_E_T_I_R_E_D"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">126</span> <span>R E T I R E D</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 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You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-08-08&end=2019-08-28&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Nain_Jaune">Nain Jaune</a>)</small>, and it may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a> if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Maile66" title="User:Maile66">— Maile </a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maile66" title="User talk:Maile66">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Maile66-2019-08-18T12:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Nain_Jaune" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:01, 18 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maile66-2019-08-18T12:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Nain_Jaune"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maile66-2019-08-18T12:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Nain_Jaune"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Spitzeln" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Spitzeln-2019-08-23T13:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Spitzeln-2019-08-23T13:35:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Spitzeln<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Spitzeln-2019-08-23T13:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: DYK for Spitzeln"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amakuru-2019-08-23T13:35:00.000Z-DYK_for_Spitzeln"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions#23_August_2019" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions">23 August 2019</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Spitzeln" title="Spitzeln">Spitzeln</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that although <b><a href="/wiki/Spitzeln" title="Spitzeln">Spitzeln</a></b> was also called German <a href="/wiki/Ombre" title="Ombre">l'Hombre</a>, it had little more in common with the most successful <a href="/wiki/Card_game" title="Card game">card game</a> ever invented than the fact that it was played by three players<span style="padding-left:0.15em;">?</span></i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Spitzeln" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Spitzeln">Template:Did you know nominations/Spitzeln</a>. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-08-13&end=2019-09-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Spitzeln">Spitzeln</a>)</small>, and it may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a> if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div><p> — <a href="/wiki/User:Amakuru" title="User:Amakuru">Amakuru</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amakuru" title="User talk:Amakuru">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Amakuru-2019-08-23T13:35:00.000Z-DYK_for_Spitzeln" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:35, 23 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amakuru-2019-08-23T13:35:00.000Z-DYK_for_Spitzeln"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amakuru-2019-08-23T13:35:00.000Z-DYK_for_Spitzeln"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2019-08-26T11:16:00.000Z"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2019-08-26T11:16:00.000Z"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2019-08-26T11:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: A barnstar for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dr._Blofeld-2019-08-26T11:16:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Original_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Original Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Vielen Dank für Ihre vielen Übersetzungen im Laufe der Jahre! ♦ <a href="/wiki/User:Dr._Blofeld" title="User:Dr. Blofeld"><span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e"><i>Dr. Blofeld</i></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Dr._Blofeld-2019-08-26T11:16:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:16, 26 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dr._Blofeld-2019-08-26T11:16:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dr._Blofeld-2019-08-26T11:16:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Portal_moves_to_WikiProjects" data-mw-thread-id="h-Portal_moves_to_WikiProjects-2019-08-27T15:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Portal_moves_to_WikiProjects-2019-08-27T15:19:00.000Z"></span>Portal moves to WikiProjects<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Portal_moves_to_WikiProjects-2019-08-27T15:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Portal moves to WikiProjects"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-UnitedStatesian-2019-08-27T15:19:00.000Z-Portal_moves_to_WikiProjects"></span>Hello B, do you plan to move the other regional portals that you maintain to the corresponding WikiProject, like you did with <a href="/w/index.php?title=Portal:Palatine_Forest&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Portal:Palatine Forest (page does not exist)">Portal:Palatine Forest</a>, and if so, could you give me a sense of timing and let me know if I can help with the moves in any way? <a href="/wiki/User:UnitedStatesian" title="User:UnitedStatesian">UnitedStatesian</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:UnitedStatesian" title="User talk:UnitedStatesian">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-UnitedStatesian-2019-08-27T15:19:00.000Z-Portal_moves_to_WikiProjects" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 27 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-UnitedStatesian-2019-08-27T15:19:00.000Z-Portal_moves_to_WikiProjects"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-UnitedStatesian-2019-08-27T15:19:00.000Z-Portal_moves_to_WikiProjects"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2019-08-27T17:00:00.000Z-UnitedStatesian-2019-08-27T15:19:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:UnitedStatesian" title="User:UnitedStatesian">UnitedStatesian</a>, that's kind. To be honest I'm not sure what to do. I suppose my view is that we should call a halt to all portal creation and deletion activity and engage seriously to reach consensus on the purpose of portals, where they should be located, how they ought to be maintained and to what standards. But there seems to be no appetite for that while those who are driving for portal deletion continue to press home their advantage based on a one-sided view of their purpose. I suppose I'd rather move a portal to project space than see it deleted entirely, so that it can continue to be useful as a project tool. If that happens, I'd welcome your help. But in general I am rather reluctant to waste too much time on them while the rampage continues. It's the kind of behaviour that makes me want to quit Wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2019-08-27T17:00:00.000Z-UnitedStatesian-2019-08-27T15:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:00, 27 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2019-08-27T17:00:00.000Z-UnitedStatesian-2019-08-27T15:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2019-08-27T17:00:00.000Z-UnitedStatesian-2019-08-27T15:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_GA_nomination_of_Elfern" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_GA_nomination_of_Elfern-2019-09-05T11:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_GA_nomination_of_Elfern-2019-09-05T11:01:00.000Z"></span>Your <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_articles" title="Wikipedia:Good articles">GA</a> nomination of <a href="/wiki/Elfern" title="Elfern">Elfern</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_GA_nomination_of_Elfern-2019-09-05T11:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Your GA nomination of Elfern"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lee_Vilenski-2019-09-05T11:01:00.000Z-Your_GA_nomination_of_Elfern"></span>Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article <a href="/wiki/Elfern" title="Elfern">Elfern</a> you nominated for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GA">GA</a>-status according to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WIAGA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WIAGA">criteria</a>. <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Time2wait.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Time2wait.svg/20px-Time2wait.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Time2wait.svg/30px-Time2wait.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Time2wait.svg/40px-Time2wait.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. <small>Message delivered by <a href="/wiki/User:Legobot" title="User:Legobot">Legobot</a>, on behalf of <a href="/wiki/User:Lee_Vilenski" title="User:Lee Vilenski">Lee Vilenski</a></small> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Lee_Vilenski" title="User:Lee Vilenski">Lee Vilenski</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lee_Vilenski" title="User talk:Lee Vilenski">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Lee_Vilenski-2019-09-05T11:01:00.000Z-Your_GA_nomination_of_Elfern" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:01, 5 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lee_Vilenski-2019-09-05T11:01:00.000Z-Your_GA_nomination_of_Elfern"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lee_Vilenski-2019-09-05T11:01:00.000Z-Your_GA_nomination_of_Elfern"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lee_Vilenski-2019-09-05T11:22:00.000Z-Your_GA_nomination_of_Elfern"></span>The article <a href="/wiki/Elfern" title="Elfern">Elfern</a> you nominated as a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations" title="Wikipedia:Good article nominations">good article</a> has failed <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span>; see <a href="/wiki/Talk:Elfern" title="Talk:Elfern">Talk:Elfern</a> for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. <small>Message delivered by <a href="/wiki/User:Legobot" title="User:Legobot">Legobot</a>, on behalf of <a href="/wiki/User:Lee_Vilenski" title="User:Lee Vilenski">Lee Vilenski</a></small> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Lee_Vilenski" title="User:Lee Vilenski">Lee Vilenski</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lee_Vilenski" title="User talk:Lee Vilenski">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Lee_Vilenski-2019-09-05T11:22:00.000Z-Your_GA_nomination_of_Elfern" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:22, 5 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lee_Vilenski-2019-09-05T11:22:00.000Z-Your_GA_nomination_of_Elfern"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lee_Vilenski-2019-09-05T11:22:00.000Z-Your_GA_nomination_of_Elfern"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Assistance_on_German_translation?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Assistance_on_German_translation?-2019-09-07T05:18:00.000Z"><span id="Assistance_on_German_translation.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Assistance_on_German_translation?-2019-09-07T05:18:00.000Z"></span>Assistance on German translation?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Assistance_on_German_translation?-2019-09-07T05:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Assistance on German translation?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Blue_Pumpkin_Pie-2019-09-07T05:18:00.000Z-Assistance_on_German_translation?"></span>I'm currently attempting to improve the article, <a href="/wiki/Trip_World" title="Trip World">Trip World</a> and there are only scanned images for the german reviews of the game. Here are the links to the scanned images: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.ninretro.de/v3plus/game-3-514.html#reviews">[1]</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.ninretro.de/v3plus/game-3-514.html#reviews">[2]</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.kultboy.com/index.php?site=t&id=2899">[3]</a>. It would be a great help if I can get these translations to expand the article.<a href="/wiki/User:Blue_Pumpkin_Pie" title="User:Blue Pumpkin Pie">Blue Pumpkin Pie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Blue_Pumpkin_Pie" title="User talk:Blue Pumpkin Pie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Blue_Pumpkin_Pie-2019-09-07T05:18:00.000Z-Assistance_on_German_translation?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:18, 7 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Blue_Pumpkin_Pie-2019-09-07T05:18:00.000Z-Assistance_on_German_translation?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Blue_Pumpkin_Pie-2019-09-07T05:18:00.000Z-Assistance_on_German_translation?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Where_to_sort_section_"References",_or,_what_about_later_Refs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Where_to_sort_section_"References",_or,_what_about_later_Refs-2019-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"><span id="Where_to_sort_section_.22References.22.2C_or.2C_what_about_later_Refs"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Where_to_sort_section_"References",_or,_what_about_later_Refs-2019-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"></span>Where to sort section "References", or, what about later Refs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Where_to_sort_section_"References",_or,_what_about_later_Refs-2019-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Where to sort section "References", or, what about later Refs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Persilschein&type=revision&diff=921544786&oldid=921544212"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-H.Marxen-2019-10-16T10:55:00.000Z-Where_to_sort_section_"References",_or,_what_about_later_Refs"></span>Here on Persilschein</a> you reverted me. Ok, got it. But now, the reference within the final section "Literature" looks ugly... which was the reason why I changed the sorting. That has to be solved without a "ref", right? Can you do that? Thanks so far! <br/>--<a href="/wiki/User:H.Marxen" title="User:H.Marxen">H.Marxen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:H.Marxen" title="User talk:H.Marxen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-H.Marxen-2019-10-16T10:55:00.000Z-Where_to_sort_section_"References",_or,_what_about_later_Refs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:55, 16 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-H.Marxen-2019-10-16T10:55:00.000Z-Where_to_sort_section_"References",_or,_what_about_later_Refs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-H.Marxen-2019-10-16T10:55:00.000Z-Where_to_sort_section_"References",_or,_what_about_later_Refs"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2019-10-16T11:03:00.000Z-H.Marxen-2019-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:H.Marxen" title="User:H.Marxen">H.Marxen</a>:</span> I see what you mean. I've turned it into a direct link to the archive, but am not 100% sure if that's the way we're meant to do it. It might be better to link it from a suitable place within the text and just have the book, unlinked, in the Literature section. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2019-10-16T11:03:00.000Z-H.Marxen-2019-10-16T10:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:03, 16 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2019-10-16T11:03:00.000Z-H.Marxen-2019-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2019-10-16T11:03:00.000Z-H.Marxen-2019-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-H.Marxen-2019-10-16T11:11:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2019-10-16T11:03:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for taking care of it. --<a href="/wiki/User:H.Marxen" title="User:H.Marxen">H.Marxen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:H.Marxen" title="User talk:H.Marxen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-H.Marxen-2019-10-16T11:11:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2019-10-16T11:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:11, 16 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-H.Marxen-2019-10-16T11:11:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2019-10-16T11:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-H.Marxen-2019-10-16T11:11:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2019-10-16T11:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deutscher_Eintrag_zu_EnglischMatthiasvon_(talk)_12:27,_18_October_2019_(UTC)[1]" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deutscher_Eintrag_zu_EnglischMatthiasvon_(talk)_12:27,_18_October_2019_(UTC)[1]-2019-10-22T20:10:00.000Z"><span id="Deutscher_Eintrag_zu_EnglischMatthiasvon_.28talk.29_12:27.2C_18_October_2019_.28UTC.29.5B1.5D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deutscher_Eintrag_zu_EnglischMatthiasvon_(talk)_12:27,_18_October_2019_(UTC)[1]-2019-10-22T20:10:00.000Z"></span>Deutscher Eintrag zu Englisch<a href="/wiki/User:Matthiasvon" title="User:Matthiasvon">Matthiasvon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matthiasvon" title="User talk:Matthiasvon">talk</a>) 12:27, 18 October 2019 (UTC)<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deutscher_Eintrag_zu_EnglischMatthiasvon_(talk)_12:27,_18_October_2019_(UTC)[1]-2019-10-22T20:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Deutscher Eintrag zu EnglischMatthiasvon (talk) 12:27, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[1]"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2019-10-22T20:10:00.000Z-Deutscher_Eintrag_zu_EnglischMatthiasvon_(talk)_12:27,_18_October_2019_(UTC)[1]"></span>Hallo, es wäre schön, wenn du vielleicht behilflich sein kannst den Eintrag über den Venice TV Award im englischsprachigen Wikipedia Portal sprachgerecht einzustellen? Vielen vielen Dank. Liebe Grüße Matthiasvon </p> <dl><dd>Hallo Matthiasvon, hab' einen kurzen Artikel gemacht. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2019-10-22T20:10:00.000Z-Deutscher_Eintrag_zu_EnglischMatthiasvon_(talk)_12:27,_18_October_2019_(UTC)[1]" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:10, 22 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2019-10-22T20:10:00.000Z-Deutscher_Eintrag_zu_EnglischMatthiasvon_(talk)_12:27,_18_October_2019_(UTC)[1]"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2019-10-22T20:10:00.000Z-Deutscher_Eintrag_zu_EnglischMatthiasvon_(talk)_12:27,_18_October_2019_(UTC)[1]"></span></dd></dl> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1232521257">.mw-parser-output .reflist-talk{margin:auto 0;border:1px dashed var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);padding:4px;padding-left:1em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-talk-title{font-weight:bold}</style><div class="reflist-talk"> <p class="reflist-talk-title">References</p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239543626">.mw-parser-output .reflist{margin-bottom:0.5em;list-style-type:decimal}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .reflist{font-size:90%}}.mw-parser-output .reflist .references{font-size:100%;margin-bottom:0;list-style-type:inherit}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-2{column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-3{column-width:25em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns{margin-top:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns ol{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns li{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-alpha{list-style-type:upper-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-roman{list-style-type:upper-roman}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-alpha{list-style-type:lower-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-greek{list-style-type:lower-greek}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-roman{list-style-type:lower-roman}</style><div class="reflist"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-1">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><a class="external free" href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venice_TV_Award">https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venice_TV_Award</a></span> </li> </ol></div></div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Playing_card_rules" data-mw-thread-id="h-Playing_card_rules-2019-10-22T16:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Playing_card_rules-2019-10-22T16:58:00.000Z"></span>Playing card rules<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Playing_card_rules-2019-10-22T16:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Playing card rules"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lord_Belbury-2019-10-22T16:58:00.000Z-Playing_card_rules"></span>Thanks for the note. All I was doing here today was scrubbing out playingcarddecks.com, which <a href="/wiki/User:TWJohn" title="User:TWJohn">User:TWJohn</a> had been adding to articles in the form of references. I hope that's uncontroversial. All of these sources were quick how-to-play blog entries written that same day, apparently by John himself (they are all credited to "John Taylor" who is "a content writer and freelancer through the company Upwork.com") with no context for where those rules came from. I assume they're cribbed from Pagat or Wikipedia itself, which he links to in the blog entries. </p><p>I noticed and removed one cardgamesplanet.com link in passing: it was a reference stuck needlessly after the name of the card game in the opening line, and is just a blog covered in poker ads. --<a href="/wiki/User:Lord_Belbury" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Lord Belbury">Lord Belbury</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lord_Belbury" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Lord Belbury">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Lord_Belbury-2019-10-22T16:58:00.000Z-Playing_card_rules" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:58, 22 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lord_Belbury-2019-10-22T16:58:00.000Z-Playing_card_rules"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lord_Belbury-2019-10-22T16:58:00.000Z-Playing_card_rules"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lord_Belbury-2019-10-22T18:51:00.000Z-Lord_Belbury-2019-10-22T16:58:00.000Z"></span>From the profile links these look to be the same person, but even if it is some cosmic coincidence, would you agree that rules posted on this retailer's blog don't have the weight of rules published by Piatnik? On closer inspection the site does put out some original content (<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://playingcarddecks.com/blogs/all-in/card-magic-magician-harry-lorayne">[4]</a> is an original interview written by a boardgamegeek.com user who says on BGG that they "first published" the interview with playingcarddecks.com), but these card game rules seem questionable, with no suggestion that they aren't just repeating Pagat, Wikipedia or the writer's own recollections. --<a href="/wiki/User:Lord_Belbury" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Lord Belbury">Lord Belbury</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lord_Belbury" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Lord Belbury">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Lord_Belbury-2019-10-22T18:51:00.000Z-Lord_Belbury-2019-10-22T16:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:51, 22 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lord_Belbury-2019-10-22T18:51:00.000Z-Lord_Belbury-2019-10-22T16:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lord_Belbury-2019-10-22T18:51:00.000Z-Lord_Belbury-2019-10-22T16:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Workshop_for_the_creation_of_new_Portal_Guidelines" data-mw-thread-id="h-Workshop_for_the_creation_of_new_Portal_Guidelines-2019-11-14T16:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Workshop_for_the_creation_of_new_Portal_Guidelines-2019-11-14T16:27:00.000Z"></span>Workshop for the creation of new Portal Guidelines<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Workshop_for_the_creation_of_new_Portal_Guidelines-2019-11-14T16:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Workshop for the creation of new Portal Guidelines"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hecato-2019-11-14T16:27:00.000Z-Workshop_for_the_creation_of_new_Portal_Guidelines"></span>Hello Bermicourt. There is currently a workshop going on about the creation of a new Portal Guideline: <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scottywong/Portal_guideline_workspace" title="User talk:Scottywong/Portal guideline workspace">User talk:Scottywong/Portal guideline workspace</a>. Your insights and ideas would be appreciated. --<a href="/wiki/User:Hecato" title="User:Hecato">Hecato</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hecato" title="User talk:Hecato">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Hecato-2019-11-14T16:27:00.000Z-Workshop_for_the_creation_of_new_Portal_Guidelines" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 14 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hecato-2019-11-14T16:27:00.000Z-Workshop_for_the_creation_of_new_Portal_Guidelines"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hecato-2019-11-14T16:27:00.000Z-Workshop_for_the_creation_of_new_Portal_Guidelines"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Regions_of_Germany" data-mw-thread-id="h-Regions_of_Germany-2019-11-15T18:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Regions_of_Germany-2019-11-15T18:08:00.000Z"></span>Regions of Germany<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Regions_of_Germany-2019-11-15T18:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Regions of Germany"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Certes-2019-11-15T18:08:00.000Z-Regions_of_Germany"></span>Hello and thanks for all the good work with German regional portals. I see that there are a few more near the bottom of the <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&agent=user&source=category&target=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCategory%3AAll_portals&range=latest-20&subjectpage=0&subcategories=0&sort=views&direction=1&view=list">portals by pageviews list</a>. Is there anything that should be done to maintain or move these pages? <a href="/wiki/User:Certes" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Certes" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Certes-2019-11-15T18:08:00.000Z-Regions_of_Germany" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:08, 15 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Certes-2019-11-15T18:08:00.000Z-Regions_of_Germany"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Certes-2019-11-15T18:08:00.000Z-Regions_of_Germany"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2019-11-15T19:28:00.000Z-Certes-2019-11-15T18:08:00.000Z"></span>Good work maybe, but now largely wasted. As you know, I think pageviews are a poor way to assess portals since a) they're not articles yet that's how we're treating them and b) they are not searchable and badly linked from mainspace, both of which could be fixed. But as it's clear there's no appetite to retain them in portal space, I'm in the process of moving them to project space where they can still be used to view and expand topics without irritating anti-portal editors. This will take time since the remaining one's have numerous subpages designed to enhance their appeal to readers, something which is now redundant. So I can't promise to do this quickly. But I wouldn't worry, they'll get deleted anyway. And those that are not "near the bottom" will fall into that category as deletionists make their way up the list. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2019-11-15T19:28:00.000Z-Certes-2019-11-15T18:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:28, 15 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2019-11-15T19:28:00.000Z-Certes-2019-11-15T18:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2019-11-15T19:28:00.000Z-Certes-2019-11-15T18:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Please_review" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_review-2019-11-16T18:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_review-2019-11-16T18:21:00.000Z"></span>Please review<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_review-2019-11-16T18:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Please review"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LilHelpa-2019-11-16T18:21:00.000Z-Please_review"></span>Hi, and thanks for all your work on WP. Could you please check <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Treba_%28river%29&type=revision&diff=926482338&oldid=885715092">this edit</a> I made on the page you started? It seems to have been missing a noun which I couldn't guess. Thank you. --<a href="/wiki/User:LilHelpa" title="User:LilHelpa">LilHelpa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LilHelpa" title="User talk:LilHelpa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-LilHelpa-2019-11-16T18:21:00.000Z-Please_review" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:21, 16 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LilHelpa-2019-11-16T18:21:00.000Z-Please_review"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LilHelpa-2019-11-16T18:21:00.000Z-Please_review"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2019-11-16T19:04:00.000Z-LilHelpa-2019-11-16T18:21:00.000Z"></span>No problems; I've checked the original and clarified the meaning. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2019-11-16T19:04:00.000Z-LilHelpa-2019-11-16T18:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:04, 16 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2019-11-16T19:04:00.000Z-LilHelpa-2019-11-16T18:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2019-11-16T19:04:00.000Z-LilHelpa-2019-11-16T18:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nertz" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nertz-2019-12-27T19:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nertz-2019-12-27T19:48:00.000Z"></span>Nertz<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nertz-2019-12-27T19:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Nertz"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lord_Belbury-2019-12-27T19:48:00.000Z-Nertz"></span>Apologies for overlapping edits, and thanks for getting the sources down! I know alternate names for card games can be a real unsourced mess on here - I was trying to be careful in my edits and don't think I lost anything through a revert, I was just trying to avoid having two separate lists of names on the go. The infobox should be using "alt_name" instead of "subtitle", I think? --<a href="/wiki/User:Lord_Belbury" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Lord Belbury">Lord Belbury</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lord_Belbury" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Lord Belbury">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Lord_Belbury-2019-12-27T19:48:00.000Z-Nertz" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:48, 27 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lord_Belbury-2019-12-27T19:48:00.000Z-Nertz"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lord_Belbury-2019-12-27T19:48:00.000Z-Nertz"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lord_Belbury-2019-12-27T19:48:00.000Z-Nertz-1"></span>And hats off for the "Nerts" move, I was just wondering about that myself... --<a href="/wiki/User:Lord_Belbury" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Lord Belbury">Lord Belbury</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lord_Belbury" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Lord Belbury">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Lord_Belbury-2019-12-27T19:48:00.000Z-Nertz-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:48, 27 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lord_Belbury-2019-12-27T19:48:00.000Z-Nertz-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lord_Belbury-2019-12-27T19:48:00.000Z-Nertz-1"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2019-12-27T19:55:00.000Z-Lord_Belbury-2019-12-27T19:48:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Lord_Belbury" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Lord Belbury">Lord Belbury</a>:</span>, no worries. I was just trying to tidy it up and source it properly and I guess you were doing something similar, by coincidence, at the same time. At some point I plan to compare the "official rules" (usually with card games there's no such thing) of the NNA - an organisation which doesn't seem have any official status and seems to be just self-proclaimed - with those on John McLeod's www.pagat.com website which is widely acknowledged in the literature as a reliable source. Some of the stuff about the electronic games may also be non-notable or bordering on advertising. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2019-12-27T19:55:00.000Z-Lord_Belbury-2019-12-27T19:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:55, 27 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2019-12-27T19:55:00.000Z-Lord_Belbury-2019-12-27T19:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2019-12-27T19:55:00.000Z-Lord_Belbury-2019-12-27T19:48:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2019-12-27T20:03:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2019-12-27T19:55:00.000Z"></span>PS in fact I suspect the National Nertz Association is a front for a commercial organisation as its official site is a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://national-nertz-association.blogspot.com/">blogspot</a> advertising the electronic games and its NNA link goes to Facebook where we see around 650 followers (very small for a national association). <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2019-12-27T20:03:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2019-12-27T19:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:03, 27 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2019-12-27T20:03:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2019-12-27T19:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2019-12-27T20:03:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2019-12-27T19:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Kaschlan" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Kaschlan-2020-01-03T00:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Kaschlan-2020-01-03T00:01:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Kaschlan<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Kaschlan-2020-01-03T00:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: DYK for Kaschlan"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amakuru-2020-01-03T00:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Kaschlan"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions#3_January_2020" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions">3 January 2020</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Kaschlan" title="Kaschlan">Kaschlan</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that the card game of <b><a href="/wiki/Kaschlan" title="Kaschlan">Kaschlan</a></b>, named after its top <a href="/wiki/Trump_(card_games)" title="Trump (card games)">trump</a>, became so popular that it was used in the <a href="/wiki/Prussia" title="Prussia">Prussian</a> idiom "my stomach's playing Kaschlan with my bowels"?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Kaschlan" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Kaschlan">Template:Did you know nominations/Kaschlan</a>. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-12-24&end=2020-01-13&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kaschlan">Kaschlan</a>)</small>, and it may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a> if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div><p> — <a href="/wiki/User:Amakuru" title="User:Amakuru">Amakuru</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amakuru" title="User talk:Amakuru">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Amakuru-2020-01-03T00:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Kaschlan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:01, 3 January 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amakuru-2020-01-03T00:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Kaschlan"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amakuru-2020-01-03T00:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Kaschlan"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Precious_anniversary" data-mw-thread-id="h-Precious_anniversary-2020-03-10T07:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Precious_anniversary-2020-03-10T07:58:00.000Z"></span>Precious anniversary<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Precious_anniversary-2020-03-10T07:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Precious anniversary"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2020-03-10T07:58:00.000Z-Precious_anniversary"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1126788409">.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul{line-height:inherit;list-style:none;margin:0;padding:0}.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol li,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul li{margin-bottom:0}</style><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1257001546">.mw-parser-output .infobox-subbox{padding:0;border:none;margin:-3px;width:auto;min-width:100%;font-size:100%;clear:none;float:none;background-color:transparent}.mw-parser-output .infobox-3cols-child{margin:auto}.mw-parser-output .infobox .navbar{font-size:100%}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .infobox-full-data:not(.notheme)>div:not(.notheme)[style]{background:#1f1f23!important;color:#f8f9fa}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .infobox-full-data:not(.notheme) div:not(.notheme){background:#1f1f23!important;color:#f8f9fa}}@media(min-width:640px){body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table{display:table!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table>caption{display:table-caption!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table>tbody{display:table-row-group}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table tr{display:table-row!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table th,body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table td{padding-left:inherit;padding-right:inherit}}</style><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow:0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75); border-radius:0.5em;"><caption class="infobox-title">Precious</caption><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg/120px-Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg" decoding="async" width="120" height="144" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg/180px-Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg/240px-Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1490" data-file-height="1792"/></a></span></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Quality_Article_Improvement/Precious#Bermicourt" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Precious">Eight years!</a></th></tr></tbody></table><p> --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Gerda_Arendt-2020-03-10T07:58:00.000Z-Precious_anniversary" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:58, 10 March 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2020-03-10T07:58:00.000Z-Precious_anniversary"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-2020-03-10T07:58:00.000Z-Precious_anniversary"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2020-10-16T14:40:00.000Z-Precious_anniversary"></span>Would <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burg_Tecklenburg" class="extiw" title="de:Burg Tecklenburg">de:Burg Tecklenburg</a> be something you'd like to translate? ... partly? --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Gerda_Arendt-2020-10-16T14:40:00.000Z-Precious_anniversary" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:40, 16 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2020-10-16T14:40:00.000Z-Precious_anniversary"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-2020-10-16T14:40:00.000Z-Precious_anniversary"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2020-10-17T06:52:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2020-10-16T14:40:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a>:</span> warum nicht? Ist mir ein Vergnügen. So missing Germany, haven't been since March when I researched curious north German card games lol. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2020-10-17T06:52:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2020-10-16T14:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:52, 17 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2020-10-17T06:52:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2020-10-16T14:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2020-10-17T06:52:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2020-10-16T14:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2020-10-17T07:44:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2020-10-17T06:52:00.000Z"></span>Thank you, - will be helpful for <a href="/wiki/Bruder_Martin" title="Bruder Martin">Bruder Martin</a>, - perhaps one line also about the festival held there, with a redirect or two ;) --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Gerda_Arendt-2020-10-17T07:44:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2020-10-17T06:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:44, 17 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2020-10-17T07:44:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2020-10-17T06:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-2020-10-17T07:44:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2020-10-17T06:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hills_of_Wiltshire" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hills_of_Wiltshire-2020-03-21T16:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hills_of_Wiltshire-2020-03-21T16:21:00.000Z"></span>Hills of Wiltshire<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hills_of_Wiltshire-2020-03-21T16:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Hills of Wiltshire"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manofwessex-2020-03-21T16:21:00.000Z-Hills_of_Wiltshire"></span>Hello! Thanks very much for compiling this useful article. I am wondering whether the table included in the article is exhaustive of the criteria that you give? As in, are all of the hills in Wiltshire that fall into the categories included in the table? The reason I ask is that I am looking to make an endurance hiking/running challenge that covers all significant hills in Wiltshire and I thought your list could be a good starting point - or even the finished item if it covers everything! Thanks, George <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Manofwessex&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Manofwessex (page does not exist)">Manofwessex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manofwessex#top" title="User talk:Manofwessex">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Manofwessex" title="Special:Contributions/Manofwessex">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Manofwessex-2020-03-21T16:21:00.000Z-Hills_of_Wiltshire" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:21, 21 March 2020 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manofwessex-2020-03-21T16:21:00.000Z-Hills_of_Wiltshire"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manofwessex-2020-03-21T16:21:00.000Z-Hills_of_Wiltshire"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2020-04-04T12:56:00.000Z-Manofwessex-2020-03-21T16:21:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Manofwessex&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Manofwessex (page does not exist)">Manofwessex</a>:</span> The list is based on the Database of British and Irish Hills at <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.hill-bagging.co.uk/index.php">www.hillbagging.co.uk</a> and currently reflects their highest hills down to Castle Ditches, with the exception of Scratchbury (197 m) which should immediately precede it. The last two in the list are included because, although there are higher hills, they are considered more notable. Hope that helps. :) <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2020-04-04T12:56:00.000Z-Manofwessex-2020-03-21T16:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:56, 4 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2020-04-04T12:56:00.000Z-Manofwessex-2020-03-21T16:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2020-04-04T12:56:00.000Z-Manofwessex-2020-03-21T16:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wörschachklamm" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wörschachklamm-2020-04-04T17:10:00.000Z"><span id="W.C3.B6rschachklamm"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wörschachklamm-2020-04-04T17:10:00.000Z"></span>Wörschachklamm<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wörschachklamm-2020-04-04T17:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Wörschachklamm"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cyfal-2020-04-04T17:10:00.000Z-Wörschachklamm"></span>Hello Bermicourt, concerning <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spechtensee&diff=next&oldid=948230894">this</a> edit: </p><p>First of all, my apologies: I didn't realize my edit was already the second reversion, because the previous edit summary was "m" – instead I thought my reversion was the first one in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">WP:BRD</a>... I also didn't checked the de-4 babel on your userpage. </p><p>Recently I revised a larger number of articles loosely based on a version in the German Wikipedia. Often there were names like <span title="German-language text"><i lang="de">...tal, ...berg, ...bach, ...schlucht</i></span> where it's obvious to German readers what kind of object that is. To give this information in the English Wikipedia, too, I added valley, mountain, river, gorge etc., although this is somewhat tautologous for someone who speaks German. </p><p>Do you really think that the "of" is appropriate here? I thought this phrase is not the case of "<a href="/wiki/Queen_of_England_(disambiguation)" class="mw-disambig" title="Queen of England (disambiguation)">Queen of England</a>", "<a href="/wiki/Mull_of_Kintyre" title="Mull of Kintyre">Mull of Kintyre</a> etc., but the case of "<a href="/wiki/River_Rhine" class="mw-redirect" title="River Rhine">River Rhine</a>", "<a href="/wiki/Mount_Kilimanjaro" title="Mount Kilimanjaro">Mount Kilimanjaro</a>" and so on, therefore without the "of". </p><p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Cyfal" title="User:Cyfal">Cyfal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cyfal" title="User talk:Cyfal">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Cyfal-2020-04-04T17:10:00.000Z-Wörschachklamm" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:10, 4 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cyfal-2020-04-04T17:10:00.000Z-Wörschachklamm"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cyfal-2020-04-04T17:10:00.000Z-Wörschachklamm"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2020-04-04T21:30:00.000Z-Cyfal-2020-04-04T17:10:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Cyfal" title="User:Cyfal">Cyfal</a>:</span> it's a good question. As a native English speaker, I feel I instinctively 'know' when to use "of" and when not to. I've tried to capture usage for these geographical terms under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Germany)" title="Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Germany)">conventions</a> as part of the Germany WikiProject. These are based on common usage. In some cases there are two options e.g. "<a href="/wiki/Eckernf%C3%B6rde_Bay" title="Eckernförde Bay">Eckernförde Bay</a> for <i>Eckenförder Bucht</i> and <a href="/wiki/Bay_of_Mecklenburg" title="Bay of Mecklenburg">Bay of Mecklenburg</a> for <i>Mecklenburgische Bucht</i> (use whichever is the widely accepted English form; if there is no English usage, prefer XX Bay.)" For many, less well known geographical features there is little or no mention in English sources, so we follow the pattern of the more well known examples. In the case in point the following would seem reasonable to me:</dd></dl> <ul><li>The lake is drained by the Wörschachbach which flows through the Wörschach Gorge...</li> <li>The lake is drained by the Wörschachbach stream which flows through the Wörschachklamm gorge...</li> <li>The lake is drained by the Wörschachbach which flows through the gorge of [the] Wörschachklamm...</li></ul> <dl><dd>Points to note: Streams ending in -<i>bach</i> are not usually split i.e. Wörschach stream is an unlikely translation. Rivers and streams are usually just called "the X". Rivers are almost always called "River X" or "the X river" in British English, but "X River" in American English. If we don't translate the generic part of the German name, we can add its English equivalent even though (we translators know) it's a tautology. I expanded the convention, partly to help me with consistency in the articles I created and also to try and establish consistency among editors translating from German. I did a lot of research of English-language sources in doing this. HTH. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2020-04-04T21:30:00.000Z-Cyfal-2020-04-04T17:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:30, 4 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2020-04-04T21:30:00.000Z-Cyfal-2020-04-04T17:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2020-04-04T21:30:00.000Z-Cyfal-2020-04-04T17:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cyfal-2020-04-04T23:14:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2020-04-04T21:30:00.000Z"></span>Thank you very much for your enlightening explanations. Although I've read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GERCON" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GERCON">WP:GERCON</a>, it seems I haven't understand it fully before. Now it seems to me the best option is: "The lake is drained by the Wörschachbach which flows through the Wörschach Gorge...", because within the context its clear that the Wörschachbach is a river, and the <span title="German-language text"><i lang="de">Wörschachklamm</i></span> can be subsumed under group B of WP:GERCON. I will change it accordingly in the near future. Thank you again --<a href="/wiki/User:Cyfal" title="User:Cyfal">Cyfal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cyfal" title="User talk:Cyfal">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Cyfal-2020-04-04T23:14:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2020-04-04T21:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:14, 4 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cyfal-2020-04-04T23:14:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2020-04-04T21:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cyfal-2020-04-04T23:14:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2020-04-04T21:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_goat_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_goat_for_you!-2020-04-08T09:40:00.000Z"><span id="A_goat_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_goat_for_you!-2020-04-08T09:40:00.000Z"></span>A goat for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_goat_for_you!-2020-04-08T09:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: A goat for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2020-04-08T09:40:00.000Z-A_goat_for_you!"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:H%C3%A1zikecske_portr%C3%A9.JPG" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/H%C3%A1zikecske_portr%C3%A9.JPG/60px-H%C3%A1zikecske_portr%C3%A9.JPG" decoding="async" width="60" height="80" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/H%C3%A1zikecske_portr%C3%A9.JPG/90px-H%C3%A1zikecske_portr%C3%A9.JPG 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/H%C3%A1zikecske_portr%C3%A9.JPG/120px-H%C3%A1zikecske_portr%C3%A9.JPG 2x" data-file-width="1512" data-file-height="2016"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>This goat approves of your gaming articles! Thanks for your hard work! </p><p><sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Piotrus-2020-04-08T09:40:00.000Z-A_goat_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:40, 8 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2020-04-08T09:40:00.000Z-A_goat_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2020-04-08T09:40:00.000Z-A_goat_for_you!"></span> <br style="clear: both;"/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="re:_Help_with_19th_century_Polish" data-mw-thread-id="h-re:_Help_with_19th_century_Polish-2020-04-09T08:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-re:_Help_with_19th_century_Polish-2020-04-09T08:51:00.000Z"></span>re: Help with 19th century Polish<span data-mw-comment-end="h-re:_Help_with_19th_century_Polish-2020-04-09T08:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: re: Help with 19th century Polish"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2020-04-09T08:51:00.000Z-re:_Help_with_19th_century_Polish"></span>I can try :) But since they are 19th century, you don't have to email them, you can just post them on wiki in a sandbox or such, they are public domain. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Piotrus-2020-04-09T08:51:00.000Z-re:_Help_with_19th_century_Polish" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:51, 9 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2020-04-09T08:51:00.000Z-re:_Help_with_19th_century_Polish"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2020-04-09T08:51:00.000Z-re:_Help_with_19th_century_Polish"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2020-04-09T08:58:00.000Z-Piotrus-2020-04-09T08:51:00.000Z"></span>PS. See <a class="external autonumber" href="https://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Strona:PL_Gloger-Encyklopedja_staropolska_ilustrowana_T.2_056.jpg">[5]</a>, there's a picture of some grid related to the game. Also <a class="external autonumber" href="https://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Strona:PL_Gloger-Encyklopedja_staropolska_ilustrowana_T.2_007.jpg">[6]</a> bout the German origin of the name. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Piotrus-2020-04-09T08:58:00.000Z-Piotrus-2020-04-09T08:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:58, 9 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2020-04-09T08:58:00.000Z-Piotrus-2020-04-09T08:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2020-04-09T08:58:00.000Z-Piotrus-2020-04-09T08:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Bräus" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Bräus-2020-04-23T12:02:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_for_Br.C3.A4us"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Bräus-2020-04-23T12:02:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Bräus<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Bräus-2020-04-23T12:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: DYK for Bräus"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maile66-2020-04-23T12:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Bräus"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions#23_April_2020" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions">23 April 2020</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Br%C3%A4us" title="Bräus">Bräus</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that <b><a href="/wiki/Br%C3%A4us" title="Bräus">Bräus</a></b>, from the Swedish island of <a href="/wiki/Gotland" title="Gotland">Gotland</a>, differs from all other <a href="/wiki/Card_game" title="Card game">card games</a> in that not all cards are playable?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Br%C3%A4us" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Bräus">Template:Did you know nominations/Bräus</a>. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-04-13&end=2020-05-03&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Br%C3%A4us">Bräus</a>)</small>, and it may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a> if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Maile66" title="User:Maile66">— Maile </a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maile66" title="User talk:Maile66">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Maile66-2020-04-23T12:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Bräus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:02, 23 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maile66-2020-04-23T12:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Bräus"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maile66-2020-04-23T12:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Bräus"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Dreeg" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Dreeg-2020-05-05T00:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Dreeg-2020-05-05T00:01:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Dreeg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Dreeg-2020-05-05T00:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: DYK for Dreeg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gatoclass-2020-05-05T00:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Dreeg"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions#5_May_2020" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions">5 May 2020</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Dreeg" title="Dreeg">Dreeg</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that <b><a href="/wiki/Dreeg" title="Dreeg">Dreeg</a></b> is a <a href="/wiki/Card_game" title="Card game">card game</a> played with <a href="/wiki/German_playing_cards" class="mw-redirect" title="German playing cards">German-suited cards</a> that is described as "a special <a href="/wiki/Franconia" title="Franconia">Franconian</a> form of <a href="/wiki/Sixty-Six_(card_game)" class="mw-redirect" title="Sixty-Six (card game)">Sixty-Six</a>"?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Dreeg" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Dreeg">Template:Did you know nominations/Dreeg</a>. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-04-25&end=2020-05-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Dreeg">Dreeg</a>)</small>, and it may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a> if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Gatoclass" title="User:Gatoclass">Gatoclass</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gatoclass" title="User talk:Gatoclass">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Gatoclass-2020-05-05T00:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Dreeg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:01, 5 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gatoclass-2020-05-05T00:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Dreeg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gatoclass-2020-05-05T00:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Dreeg"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wiese" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wiese-2020-05-10T21:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wiese-2020-05-10T21:37:00.000Z"></span>Wiese<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wiese-2020-05-10T21:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Wiese"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tangatarzan-2020-05-10T21:37:00.000Z-Wiese"></span>Please undo the move from Wiese to Wiese (Norwegian DJ). As a reason for doing this move, you state that there are "many people with the last name Wiese". That is correct. However, is is only one who is know for just Wiese and has that as his stage name. This artist has many millions plays on Spotify and several articles and reviews on Google that justify this. I don't blame you for doing your job but in this case the decision was not right, so please undo as this is the right thing to do here:) <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Tangatarzan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Tangatarzan (page does not exist)">Tangatarzan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tangatarzan#top" title="User talk:Tangatarzan">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tangatarzan" title="Special:Contributions/Tangatarzan">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Tangatarzan-2020-05-10T21:37:00.000Z-Wiese" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:37, 10 May 2020 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tangatarzan-2020-05-10T21:37:00.000Z-Wiese"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tangatarzan-2020-05-10T21:37:00.000Z-Wiese"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2020-05-11T07:14:00.000Z-Tangatarzan-2020-05-10T21:37:00.000Z"></span>Well that's interesting and you are very welcome to propose a move request on the talk page and seek consensus that a Norwegian DJ is the primary topic on English Wikipedia; which is what you should have done in the first place. Cheers. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2020-05-11T07:14:00.000Z-Tangatarzan-2020-05-10T21:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:14, 11 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2020-05-11T07:14:00.000Z-Tangatarzan-2020-05-10T21:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2020-05-11T07:14:00.000Z-Tangatarzan-2020-05-10T21:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lordship" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lordship-2020-05-13T01:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lordship-2020-05-13T01:59:00.000Z"></span>Lordship<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lordship-2020-05-13T01:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Lordship"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-R'n'B-2020-05-13T01:59:00.000Z-Lordship"></span>Did you know there is already a disambiguation page at <a href="/wiki/Lordship_(disambiguation)" class="mw-disambig" title="Lordship (disambiguation)">Lordship (disambiguation)</a>? --<a href="/wiki/User:R%27n%27B" title="User:R'n'B">R'n'B</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:R%27n%27B" title="User talk:R'n'B">call me</a> Russ) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-R'n'B-2020-05-13T01:59:00.000Z-Lordship" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:59, 13 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-R'n'B-2020-05-13T01:59:00.000Z-Lordship"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-R'n'B-2020-05-13T01:59:00.000Z-Lordship"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2020-05-13T07:24:00.000Z-R'n'B-2020-05-13T01:59:00.000Z"></span>Aha. Then it would make sense to combine them. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2020-05-13T07:24:00.000Z-R'n'B-2020-05-13T01:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:24, 13 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2020-05-13T07:24:00.000Z-R'n'B-2020-05-13T01:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2020-05-13T07:24:00.000Z-R'n'B-2020-05-13T01:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Brus_(card_game)" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Brus_(card_game)-2020-05-19T07:42:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_for_Brus_.28card_game.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Brus_(card_game)-2020-05-19T07:42:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Brus (card game)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Brus_(card_game)-2020-05-19T07:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: DYK for Brus (card game)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amakuru-2020-05-19T07:42:00.000Z-DYK_for_Brus_(card_game)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions#21_May_2020" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions">21 May 2020</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Brus_(card_game)" title="Brus (card game)">Brus (card game)</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that in the Danish card game of <b><a href="/wiki/Brus_(card_game)" title="Brus (card game)">Brus</a></b>, if a seven is led, the player risks it being beaten by the <a href="/wiki/Stodderkonge" title="Stodderkonge">beggar king</a>?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Brus_(card_game)" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Brus (card game)">Template:Did you know nominations/Brus (card game)</a>. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-11&end=2020-05-31&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Brus_(card_game)">Brus (card game)</a>)</small>, and it may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a> if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div><p> — <a href="/wiki/User:Amakuru" title="User:Amakuru">Amakuru</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amakuru" title="User talk:Amakuru">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Amakuru-2020-05-19T07:42:00.000Z-DYK_for_Brus_(card_game)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:42, 19 May 2020 (UTC)</a> 12:14, 21 May 2020 (UTC)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amakuru-2020-05-19T07:42:00.000Z-DYK_for_Brus_(card_game)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amakuru-2020-05-19T07:42:00.000Z-DYK_for_Brus_(card_game)"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Translation_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Translation_request-2020-06-06T18:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Translation_request-2020-06-06T18:10:00.000Z"></span>Translation request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Translation_request-2020-06-06T18:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Translation request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Acather96-2020-06-06T18:10:00.000Z-Translation_request"></span>Hi. I'm trying to improve the <i><a href="/wiki/Nicrophorus_vespilloides" title="Nicrophorus vespilloides">Nicrophorus vespilloides</a></i> article (currently working on a <a href="/wiki/User:Acather96/vespdraft" title="User:Acather96/vespdraft">userspace draft</a>). <i>N. vespilloides</i> is a burying beetle: a curious type of insect that buries dead mice and birds below the ground before converting the carcass into an edible nest in which it raises its young. It's also becoming an important model organism in evolutionary biology. I've found the original formal <a href="/wiki/Species_description" title="Species description">species description</a> and would love to discuss this in the article, but it's a paragraph of German published in 1783 (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/44317#page/234/mode/1up">https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/44317#page/234/mode/1up</a>). I saw you <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Translators_available" title="Wikipedia:Translators available">listed here</a> and wondered if you might be willing to translate this? Whilst less vital, it would also be fantastic if you'd be able to translate the first page of the document (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/44317#page/197/mode/1up">https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/44317#page/197/mode/1up</a>) which introduces the manuscript. <a href="/wiki/User:Acather96" title="User:Acather96">Acather96</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Acather96#top" title="User talk:Acather96">click here to contact me</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Acather96-2020-06-06T18:10:00.000Z-Translation_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 6 June 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Acather96-2020-06-06T18:10:00.000Z-Translation_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Acather96-2020-06-06T18:10:00.000Z-Translation_request"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2020-06-11T06:55:00.000Z-Translation_request"></span>The section entitled "Nicrophorus" reads: "It is certainly very similar to N. Vespillo, but not the same however. The difference is as follows: it is barely half as big. the club of the feelers is not brown, but black. Head and thorax (“breast shield”) are not covered in yellow hairs; the latter is not smooth, but has four smooth bumps at the front and 3 at the rear; when its elytra are lowered, there is a small yellow spot at the base, on Vespillo this runs into the yellow band; the lowest yellow band does not reach the side, but is only an oval spot. The abdomen is not covered with yellow hair, but is smooth and black. These distinctive signs are always the same." HTH. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2020-06-11T06:55:00.000Z-Translation_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:55, 11 June 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2020-06-11T06:55:00.000Z-Translation_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2020-06-11T06:55:00.000Z-Translation_request"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Drużbart" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Drużbart-2020-06-10T12:01:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_for_Dru.C5.BCbart"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Drużbart-2020-06-10T12:01:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Drużbart<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Drużbart-2020-06-10T12:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: DYK for Drużbart"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Casliber-2020-06-10T12:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Drużbart"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions#10_June_2020" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions">10 June 2020</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Dru%C5%BCbart" title="Drużbart">Drużbart</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that <b><a href="/wiki/Dru%C5%BCbart" title="Drużbart">Drużbart</a></b>, named after its second-highest card </i>(shown)<i>, was the favourite <a href="/wiki/Card_game" title="Card game">card game</a> of Polish novelist Count <a href="/wiki/Henryk_Rzewuski" title="Henryk Rzewuski">Henryk Rzewuski</a>?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Dru%C5%BCbart" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Drużbart">Template:Did you know nominations/Drużbart</a>. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-31&end=2020-06-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Dru%C5%BCbart">Drużbart</a>)</small>, and it may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a> if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Casliber" title="User:Casliber">Cas Liber</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Casliber" title="User talk:Casliber">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Casliber" title="Special:Contributions/Casliber">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Casliber-2020-06-10T12:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Drużbart" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:01, 10 June 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Casliber-2020-06-10T12:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Drużbart"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Casliber-2020-06-10T12:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Drużbart"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2020-06-10T22:37:00.000Z-DYK_for_Drużbart"></span>Thank you for another good one. I remember your mountain articles, - could you perhaps expand <a href="/wiki/Altk%C3%B6nig" title="Altkönig">Altkönig</a> a bit? --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Gerda_Arendt-2020-06-10T22:37:00.000Z-DYK_for_Drużbart" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:37, 10 June 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2020-06-10T22:37:00.000Z-DYK_for_Drużbart"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-2020-06-10T22:37:00.000Z-DYK_for_Drużbart"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Matzlfangen" data-mw-thread-id="h-Matzlfangen-2020-07-04T19:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Matzlfangen-2020-07-04T19:13:00.000Z"></span>Matzlfangen<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Matzlfangen-2020-07-04T19:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: Matzlfangen"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-04T19:13:00.000Z-Matzlfangen"></span>Hi! I am interested in card games and have been in mail contact with Austrian player Christian Daglinger about this fascinating game. I have been careful not to bombard him with questions, but I think I have managed to sort out all question marks now. Regards <a href="/wiki/User:Feynman~svwiki" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Feynman~svwiki">Feynman~svwiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Feynman~svwiki" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Feynman~svwiki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-04T19:13:00.000Z-Matzlfangen" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:13, 4 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-04T19:13:00.000Z-Matzlfangen"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-04T19:13:00.000Z-Matzlfangen"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-05T05:48:00.000Z-Matzlfangen"></span>I was a member of the ICPS until recently. I am now involved in a patient's organisation and I am following the scientific literature in that area. I am afraid that means that I currently don't have time to write any texts or artciles for Wikipedia, although it of course would be nice to have a German text on Matzlfangen and to involve Christian Daglinger. It sure would be nice to know what German card games you recently wrote about, and if possible also to read the articles. <a href="/wiki/User:Feynman~svwiki" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Feynman~svwiki">Feynman~svwiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Feynman~svwiki" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Feynman~svwiki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-05T05:48:00.000Z-Matzlfangen" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:48, 5 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-05T05:48:00.000Z-Matzlfangen"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-05T05:48:00.000Z-Matzlfangen"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-05T06:46:00.000Z-Matzlfangen"></span>Thanks for info. I have also been working with John McLeod. I helped him with his article on the Swedish card game vira 20 years ago. <a href="/wiki/User:Feynman~svwiki" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Feynman~svwiki">Feynman~svwiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Feynman~svwiki" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Feynman~svwiki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-05T06:46:00.000Z-Matzlfangen" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:46, 5 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-05T06:46:00.000Z-Matzlfangen"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-05T06:46:00.000Z-Matzlfangen"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-05T21:23:00.000Z-Matzlfangen"></span>I'll take a closer look at the articles about various forms of "knack" later, but I alread have one comment. You use a translation as the title for Norrlandsknack, "Norseman's Knock", but you keep the original Swedish names for the other versions ("svängknack" etc.). I would recommend a consistent terminology, and I think it is best to keep the original Swedish names in this case. "Norseman's Knock" doesn't sound good. As you correctly point out in the text, Norrland is actually a geographical region. So, strictly speaking, Norseman is not a correct translation. </p><p>By the way, it interesting to note that "Norrland" has been used in other card games to denote variants that contain strong elements of gambling. There was for example a version of vira called "Norrlandsvira", which contained some contracts with larger payments and larger element of chance than previous versions. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Feynman~svwiki" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Feynman~svwiki">Feynman~svwiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Feynman~svwiki#top" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Feynman~svwiki">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Feynman~svwiki" title="Special:Contributions/Feynman~svwiki">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-05T21:23:00.000Z-Matzlfangen" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:23, 5 July 2020 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-05T21:23:00.000Z-Matzlfangen"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-05T21:23:00.000Z-Matzlfangen"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-06T11:53:00.000Z-Matzlfangen"></span>OK, I understand. If an English terminology already has been established, it makes sense to follow it. It is always nice with references to the Vikings, but I must point out that we have become much more mild-mannered during the last thousand years. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Feynman~svwiki" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Feynman~svwiki">Feynman~svwiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Feynman~svwiki#top" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Feynman~svwiki">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Feynman~svwiki" title="Special:Contributions/Feynman~svwiki">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-06T11:53:00.000Z-Matzlfangen" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:53, 6 July 2020 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-06T11:53:00.000Z-Matzlfangen"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-06T11:53:00.000Z-Matzlfangen"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-08T18:03:00.000Z-Matzlfangen"></span>I will try to contact Christian Daglinger again. I don't know if he is familiar with Wikipedia and has an account. Perhaps it is better if we communicate by email. Do you have an address where I can reach you? My address is sten.helmfrid@bredband.net. <a href="/wiki/User:Feynman~svwiki" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Feynman~svwiki">Feynman~svwiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Feynman~svwiki" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Feynman~svwiki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-08T18:03:00.000Z-Matzlfangen" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:03, 8 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-08T18:03:00.000Z-Matzlfangen"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-08T18:03:00.000Z-Matzlfangen"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-08T18:10:00.000Z-Matzlfangen"></span>Concerning the rules for trick taking. My understanding from my conversation with Daglinger is that you must follow suit if possible. If you cannot follow suit, you must play trump. Subject to these rules, you must head the trick if possible. That means that if you cannot follow suit and you cannot head the trick, you must still undertrump if possible. I never asked if you must head the trick even if your partner is in the lead. I just presumed that you always have to head the trick, no matter who is in the lead. </p><p>By the way, how did you find out about Neid-spiel? <a href="/wiki/User:Feynman~svwiki" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Feynman~svwiki">Feynman~svwiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Feynman~svwiki" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Feynman~svwiki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-08T18:10:00.000Z-Matzlfangen" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 8 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-08T18:10:00.000Z-Matzlfangen"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Feynman~svwiki-2020-07-08T18:10:00.000Z-Matzlfangen"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Taroc_l'Hombre" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Taroc_l'Hombre-2020-07-11T12:03:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_for_Taroc_l.27Hombre"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Taroc_l'Hombre-2020-07-11T12:03:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Taroc l'Hombre<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Taroc_l'Hombre-2020-07-11T12:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: DYK for Taroc l'Hombre"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amakuru-2020-07-11T12:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Taroc_l'Hombre"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions#11_July_2020" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions">11 July 2020</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Taroc_l%27Hombre" title="Taroc l'Hombre">Taroc l'Hombre</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that <b><a href="/wiki/Taroc_l%27Hombre" title="Taroc l'Hombre">Taroc l'Hombre</a></b> imported bidding from the world's most successful card game, <a href="/wiki/Ombre" title="Ombre">Ombre</a>, a feature that was crucial to the future of <a href="/wiki/Tarot_card_games" title="Tarot card games">Tarot games</a> outside Italy?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Taroc_l%27Hombre" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Taroc l'Hombre">Template:Did you know nominations/Taroc l'Hombre</a>. 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The fact was <i>... that the <a href="/wiki/Card_game" title="Card game">card game</a> of <b><a href="/wiki/Husarln" title="Husarln">Husarln</a></b> ("Hussar") is dominated by the distribution of <a href="/wiki/Tarot" title="Tarot">tarot</a> cards, giving it "that brisk and energetic feel" which is reflected in its name?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Husarln" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Husarln">Template:Did you know nominations/Husarln</a>. 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Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Cwmhiraeth" title="User:Cwmhiraeth">Cwmhiraeth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cwmhiraeth" title="User talk:Cwmhiraeth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Cwmhiraeth-2020-07-14T12:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Husarln" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:01, 14 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cwmhiraeth-2020-07-14T12:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Husarln"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cwmhiraeth-2020-07-14T12:01:00.000Z-DYK_for_Husarln"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Robert_Sedlaczek" data-mw-thread-id="h-Robert_Sedlaczek-2020-07-14T14:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Robert_Sedlaczek-2020-07-14T14:47:00.000Z"></span>Robert Sedlaczek<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Robert_Sedlaczek-2020-07-14T14:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Robert Sedlaczek"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Psu256-2020-07-14T14:47:00.000Z-Robert_Sedlaczek"></span>Would you consider translating the German article about <a class="external text" href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Sedlaczek">Robert Sedlaczek</a>? The DYK led me to <a href="/wiki/Illustrated_Tarock" title="Illustrated Tarock">Illustrated Tarock</a> which mentions "Mayr and Sedlaczek" without explanation of who they are. Mayr also has an article, but it looks mostly like a stub. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Psu256" title="User:Psu256">Psu256</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Psu256" title="User talk:Psu256">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Psu256-2020-07-14T14:47:00.000Z-Robert_Sedlaczek" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:47, 14 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Psu256-2020-07-14T14:47:00.000Z-Robert_Sedlaczek"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Psu256-2020-07-14T14:47:00.000Z-Robert_Sedlaczek"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2020-07-18T10:08:00.000Z-Psu256-2020-07-14T14:47:00.000Z"></span>Done. See <a href="/wiki/Robert_Sedlaczek" title="Robert Sedlaczek">Robert Sedlaczek</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wolfgang_Mayr" title="Wolfgang Mayr">Wolfgang Mayr</a> - <a href="/wiki/Tarock_card_game" class="mw-redirect" title="Tarock card game">Tarock card game</a> experts. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2020-07-18T10:08:00.000Z-Psu256-2020-07-14T14:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:08, 18 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2020-07-18T10:08:00.000Z-Psu256-2020-07-14T14:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2020-07-18T10:08:00.000Z-Psu256-2020-07-14T14:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_of_translation_of_a_German_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_of_translation_of_a_German_page-2020-08-07T09:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_of_translation_of_a_German_page-2020-08-07T09:57:00.000Z"></span>Request of translation of a German page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_of_translation_of_a_German_page-2020-08-07T09:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: Request of translation of a German page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elvira_Just-2020-08-07T09:57:00.000Z-Request_of_translation_of_a_German_page"></span>Hi Bermicourt, there is a german page which could be translated into English for the english Wikipedia. The page is ModuleWorks, it seems to be a company in Germany but it is operating internationally. What do you think? Or how can I request this? Thanks a ton in advance, Elvira<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Elvira_Just&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Elvira Just (page does not exist)">Elvira Just</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elvira_Just" title="User talk:Elvira Just">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Elvira_Just-2020-08-07T09:57:00.000Z-Request_of_translation_of_a_German_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:57, 7 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elvira_Just-2020-08-07T09:57:00.000Z-Request_of_translation_of_a_German_page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elvira_Just-2020-08-07T09:57:00.000Z-Request_of_translation_of_a_German_page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2020-08-10T12:39:00.000Z-Elvira_Just-2020-08-07T09:57:00.000Z"></span>Hi Elvira. You've already created this yourself, but your submission was declined on grounds of notability, so I'm reluctant to put my head in the same noose. Sorry. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2020-08-10T12:39:00.000Z-Elvira_Just-2020-08-07T09:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:39, 10 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2020-08-10T12:39:00.000Z-Elvira_Just-2020-08-07T09:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2020-08-10T12:39:00.000Z-Elvira_Just-2020-08-07T09:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Bruus" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Bruus-2020-08-10T00:33:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Bruus-2020-08-10T00:33:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Bruus<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Bruus-2020-08-10T00:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: DYK for Bruus"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wugapodes-2020-08-10T00:33:00.000Z-DYK_for_Bruus"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions#13_August_2020" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions">13 August 2020</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Bruus" title="Bruus">Bruus</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that <b><a href="/wiki/Bruus" title="Bruus">Bruus</a></b>, once the national <a href="/wiki/Card_game" title="Card game">card game</a> of <a href="/wiki/Hamburg" title="Hamburg">Hamburg</a>, rewards players for "daring and tormenting" certain top trumps, and that such tactics lend the game "a certain charm"?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Bruus" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Bruus">Template:Did you know nominations/Bruus</a>. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2020-08-03&end=2020-08-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Bruus">Bruus</a>)</small>, and it may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a> if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div> <p><span style="white-space: nowrap;">— <a href="/wiki/User:Wugapodes" title="User:Wugapodes">Wug·</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wugapodes" title="User talk:Wugapodes">a·po·des</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Wugapodes-2020-08-10T00:33:00.000Z-DYK_for_Bruus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:33, 10 August 2020 (UTC)</a> 00:02, 13 August 2020 (UTC)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wugapodes-2020-08-10T00:33:00.000Z-DYK_for_Bruus"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wugapodes-2020-08-10T00:33:00.000Z-DYK_for_Bruus"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Kukurtlu" data-mw-thread-id="h-Kukurtlu-2020-08-19T00:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Kukurtlu-2020-08-19T00:52:00.000Z"></span>Kukurtlu<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Kukurtlu-2020-08-19T00:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: Kukurtlu"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nick_Moyes-2020-08-19T00:52:00.000Z-Kukurtlu"></span>Hi. Have you a source to support <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mont_Blanc&diff=prev&oldid=705928766&diffmode=source">this edit</a> to <a href="/wiki/Mont_Blanc" title="Mont Blanc">Mont Blanc</a> you made back in 2016, by any chance? It seems odd to have a redlinked summit so prominently listed over all this time, without supporting evidence. I've managed to add an illm link to ru-wiki, but feel a source is needed for this obscure point. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Nick_Moyes" title="User:Nick Moyes">Nick Moyes</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nick_Moyes" title="User talk:Nick Moyes">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Nick_Moyes-2020-08-19T00:52:00.000Z-Kukurtlu" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:52, 19 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nick_Moyes-2020-08-19T00:52:00.000Z-Kukurtlu"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nick_Moyes-2020-08-19T00:52:00.000Z-Kukurtlu"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2020-08-19T07:14:00.000Z-Nick_Moyes-2020-08-19T00:52:00.000Z"></span>Sure, I've just added it. I'm happy to create the article for the red link by translating the German Wiki one. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2020-08-19T07:14:00.000Z-Nick_Moyes-2020-08-19T00:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:14, 19 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2020-08-19T07:14:00.000Z-Nick_Moyes-2020-08-19T00:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2020-08-19T07:14:00.000Z-Nick_Moyes-2020-08-19T00:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Translation_request_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Translation_request_2-2020-08-20T03:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Translation_request_2-2020-08-20T03:09:00.000Z"></span>Translation request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Translation_request_2-2020-08-20T03:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: Translation request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-70.172.136.61-2020-08-20T03:09:00.000Z-Translation_request_2"></span>Hello, since you were on the list of translators from German to English, I was wondering if you would be interested in translating <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerhard_Schramm_(Biochemiker)" class="extiw" title="de:Gerhard Schramm (Biochemiker)">de:Gerhard Schramm (Biochemiker)</a>. Regards, <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/70.172.136.61" title="Special:Contributions/70.172.136.61">70.172.136.61</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:70.172.136.61" title="User talk:70.172.136.61">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-70.172.136.61-2020-08-20T03:09:00.000Z-Translation_request_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:09, 20 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-70.172.136.61-2020-08-20T03:09:00.000Z-Translation_request_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-70.172.136.61-2020-08-20T03:09:00.000Z-Translation_request_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2020-09-07T16:55:00.000Z-70.172.136.61-2020-08-20T03:09:00.000Z"></span>Not really my subject area, I'm afraid. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2020-09-07T16:55:00.000Z-70.172.136.61-2020-08-20T03:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:55, 7 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2020-09-07T16:55:00.000Z-70.172.136.61-2020-08-20T03:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2020-09-07T16:55:00.000Z-70.172.136.61-2020-08-20T03:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Helleberg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Helleberg-2020-08-25T10:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Helleberg-2020-08-25T10:50:00.000Z"></span>Helleberg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Helleberg-2020-08-25T10:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: Helleberg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Certes-2020-08-25T10:50:00.000Z-Helleberg"></span>Thank you for writing <a href="/wiki/Helleberg_(ridge)" title="Helleberg (ridge)">Helleberg (ridge)</a>. I fixed incoming links to <a href="/wiki/Helleberg" class="mw-disambig" title="Helleberg">Helleberg</a> yesterday and all seven were for the Leine ridge, but I lacked the courage to change it to a dab as I know some editors are keen to keep a surname page at the base name. I think you've done the right thing: it has no information about the surname and it clearly collects links intended for another topic. <a href="/wiki/User:Certes" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Certes" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Certes-2020-08-25T10:50:00.000Z-Helleberg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:50, 25 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Certes-2020-08-25T10:50:00.000Z-Helleberg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Certes-2020-08-25T10:50:00.000Z-Helleberg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Czechia_and_Names_of_Things" data-mw-thread-id="h-Czechia_and_Names_of_Things-2020-09-17T09:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Czechia_and_Names_of_Things-2020-09-17T09:22:00.000Z"></span>Czechia and Names of Things<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Czechia_and_Names_of_Things-2020-09-17T09:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: Czechia and Names of Things"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-2020-09-17T09:22:00.000Z-Czechia_and_Names_of_Things"></span>Hello. I have no dog in this fight, not even a very small one. I just read up on it a bit because I saw someone change CR to Czechia without comment ... which is, I think, what you do if you are very sure you are right, or are maybe hoping just to get away with it ... or something. So I had a look at the CR wikiproject, where I think there is nothing current, and then back through the archives, where I found you arguing for a guideline. This seemed to be to be very reasonable, but did you ever get anywhere with it? </p><p>I can't emphasize too strongly that I am not trying to reopen a debate, start a crusade or anything. I need a dispute like this like a hole in the head. I have enough difficulty trying to keep <a href="/wiki/Middlesbrough" title="Middlesbrough">Middlesbrough</a> spelt right! (or, like, people changing England to UK and UK to England and Scotland to whatever.) I am just interested, I suppose, in the wiki-processes and wiki-thinking that went on, and would love to know if it did ever get closer to resolved. I'm certainly, absolutely, I promise you, <i>not</i> planning on reverting the edit that I saw! Cheers <a href="/wiki/User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered" title="User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered">DBaK</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered" title="User talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-2020-09-17T09:22:00.000Z-Czechia_and_Names_of_Things" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:22, 17 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-2020-09-17T09:22:00.000Z-Czechia_and_Names_of_Things"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-2020-09-17T09:22:00.000Z-Czechia_and_Names_of_Things"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2020-09-17T12:27:00.000Z-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-2020-09-17T09:22:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered" title="User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered">DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered</a>:</span> I have raised this several times on the project talk pages because every time I was given the reasonable response that Czechia is just an acceptable short (and indeed officially approved) form of CR, I found my edits in practice being changed to CR. The final time I raised the topic, it flushed out some different views clearly opposed to the short version. So there is no consensus. That should mean <i>both</i> are acceptable, but on Wikipedia if there is a small band of editors determined to spell something one way, regardless of the sources, it's almost impossible for reason to prevail. In your case, there are two options. If this is the first edit, then you can revert it under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">WP:BRD</a> and invite discussion on the talk page. The second option is to leave it - it won't be long before other editors swoop in to revert it whether BRD applies or not. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2020-09-17T12:27:00.000Z-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-2020-09-17T09:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:27, 17 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2020-09-17T12:27:00.000Z-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-2020-09-17T09:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2020-09-17T12:27:00.000Z-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-2020-09-17T09:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Saxon_Switzerland_Climbing_Region" data-mw-thread-id="h-Saxon_Switzerland_Climbing_Region-2020-09-17T10:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Saxon_Switzerland_Climbing_Region-2020-09-17T10:21:00.000Z"></span>Saxon Switzerland Climbing Region<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Saxon_Switzerland_Climbing_Region-2020-09-17T10:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: Saxon Switzerland Climbing Region"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bohnenkraut11-2020-09-17T10:21:00.000Z-Saxon_Switzerland_Climbing_Region"></span>Hi Bermicourt, I would like to expand/improve the article on the Saxon Switzerland Climbing Region in the course of the next weeks. My impression is, that the translation from the German page might not be entirely suitable within the English Wikipedia and within the scope of articles relevant to rock climbing. I would like to add a section on the history, climbing style, and maybe a list of notable climbers. Would you like to collaborate? I'm not an English native speaker but I am a rock climber from that region. Since I'm relatively new to Wikipedia, I would appreciate some guidance as to where I could first create a draft version of proposed changes. Or maybe we can discuss the changes first on the Talk page of the article? Would appreciate any help. <a href="/wiki/User:Bohnenkraut11" title="User:Bohnenkraut11">Bohnenkraut11</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bohnenkraut11&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Bohnenkraut11 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bohnenkraut11-2020-09-17T10:21:00.000Z-Saxon_Switzerland_Climbing_Region" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:21, 17 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bohnenkraut11-2020-09-17T10:21:00.000Z-Saxon_Switzerland_Climbing_Region"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bohnenkraut11-2020-09-17T10:21:00.000Z-Saxon_Switzerland_Climbing_Region"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2020-09-17T12:07:00.000Z-Bohnenkraut11-2020-09-17T10:21:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Bohnenkraut11" title="User:Bohnenkraut11">Bohnenkraut11</a>:</span> That's great. I generally translate articles on German topics from German to English Wiki which is how this one got started. I'm happy to collaborate on improving this one. If you want to create a draft either of the entire article or of a section the best thing to do is create a page called something like <a href="/wiki/User:Bohnenkraut11/Saxon_Switzerland_climbing_region_draft" title="User:Bohnenkraut11/Saxon Switzerland climbing region draft">User:Bohnenkraut11/Saxon Switzerland climbing region draft</a>. Then it's in your own workspace and no-one is going to fuss while you work on it. I often do this for articles and, when I'm happy, I move the page to mainspace or copy the content into an existing article. Obviously whatever we do must conform to Wiki guidance e.g. no marketing, be properly sourced etc. Hope that helps, Gruß. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2020-09-17T12:07:00.000Z-Bohnenkraut11-2020-09-17T10:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:07, 17 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2020-09-17T12:07:00.000Z-Bohnenkraut11-2020-09-17T10:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2020-09-17T12:07:00.000Z-Bohnenkraut11-2020-09-17T10:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bohnenkraut11-2020-09-17T12:35:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2020-09-17T12:07:00.000Z"></span>Great! Thank you for the advice! I will do that and let you know when I'm ready for some feedback and language editing. <a href="/wiki/User:Bohnenkraut11" title="User:Bohnenkraut11">Bohnenkraut11</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bohnenkraut11&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Bohnenkraut11 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bohnenkraut11-2020-09-17T12:35:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2020-09-17T12:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:35, 17 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bohnenkraut11-2020-09-17T12:35:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2020-09-17T12:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bohnenkraut11-2020-09-17T12:35:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2020-09-17T12:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Hi Bermicourt! I've partly finished my edit on <a href="/wiki/User:Bohnenkraut11/Saxon_Switzerland_climbing_region_draft" title="User:Bohnenkraut11/Saxon Switzerland climbing region draft">User:Bohnenkraut11/Saxon Switzerland climbing region draft</a>. I would welcome your input. Ignore the section on the history for now. This will take a bit longer but I thought I could first finish the other sections and start adding them to the main page. I've also created a draft on the German climber Bernd Arnold: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Bernd_Arnold">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Bernd_Arnold</a>. If you have time and this is of interest to you, I would be very happy about a review. Thank you so much and viele Grüße!</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Missing_cite_in_The_Compleat_Gamester" data-mw-thread-id="h-Missing_cite_in_The_Compleat_Gamester-2020-09-23T06:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Missing_cite_in_The_Compleat_Gamester-2020-09-23T06:36:00.000Z"></span>Missing cite in <a href="/wiki/The_Compleat_Gamester" title="The Compleat Gamester">The Compleat Gamester</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Missing_cite_in_The_Compleat_Gamester-2020-09-23T06:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: Missing cite in The Compleat Gamester"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Renata3-2020-09-23T06:36:00.000Z-Missing_cite_in_The_Compleat_Gamester"></span>The article cites "Cotton 1674" but no such source is listed in bibliography. Can you please add? Also, suggest installing a script (explained at <a href="/wiki/Category:Harv_and_Sfn_no-target_errors" title="Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors">Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors</a>) to highlight such errors in the future. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Renata3" title="User:Renata3">Renata</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Renata3" title="User talk:Renata3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Renata3-2020-09-23T06:36:00.000Z-Missing_cite_in_The_Compleat_Gamester" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:36, 23 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Renata3-2020-09-23T06:36:00.000Z-Missing_cite_in_The_Compleat_Gamester"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Renata3-2020-09-23T06:36:00.000Z-Missing_cite_in_The_Compleat_Gamester"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2020-09-23T07:11:00.000Z-Renata3-2020-09-23T06:36:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Renata3" title="User:Renata3">Renata3</a>:</span> it's the first entry in his list of works and there's even a link to an online copy. Do I really need to repeat it in the Bibliography? <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2020-09-23T07:11:00.000Z-Renata3-2020-09-23T06:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:11, 23 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2020-09-23T07:11:00.000Z-Renata3-2020-09-23T06:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2020-09-23T07:11:00.000Z-Renata3-2020-09-23T06:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Game_of_Tarot" data-mw-thread-id="h-Game_of_Tarot-2020-10-28T14:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Game_of_Tarot-2020-10-28T14:41:00.000Z"></span>Game of Tarot<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Game_of_Tarot-2020-10-28T14:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: Game of Tarot"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Countakeshi-2020-10-28T14:41:00.000Z-Game_of_Tarot"></span>While much of Dummett's <i>The Game of Tarot</i> still stands up, parts have become outdated and Dummett abandoned many theories stated in them. One such example was the French-origin theory of Spanish suits. If you read his article in volume 18 of the IPCS journal, you can see that had rejected it by 1988. The biggest change was the Ferrara hypothesis which formed the subtitle for the book. At the time, he proposed Ferrara as the most likely place for its invention among the first four tarot centers with Florence being the least likely. Since the mid-2000s, the prevailing theory is now the complete opposite. Also gone are his hypotheses on the Piedmontese game of Sedici and its relationship with Ferrara. In fact, most of the history of Piedmontese tarot games (the French reintroduction theory) was replaced by his later research as well as the research of McLeod and others.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Countakeshi&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Countakeshi (page does not exist)">Countakeshi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Countakeshi" title="User talk:Countakeshi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Countakeshi-2020-10-28T14:41:00.000Z-Game_of_Tarot" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:41, 28 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Countakeshi-2020-10-28T14:41:00.000Z-Game_of_Tarot"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Countakeshi-2020-10-28T14:41:00.000Z-Game_of_Tarot"></span> </p> <dl><dd></dd></dl> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2020-10-28T15:43:00.000Z-Game_of_Tarot"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Countakeshi&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Countakeshi (page does not exist)">Countakeshi</a>:</span> thank you, that is helpful. The great advantage of <i>The Game of Tarot</i> is that it pulled together the history of cards (especially Tarot obviously) comprehensively in one place. It's big disadvantage is that it's now 40 years out of date. What would be brilliant would be an updated edition. McLeod and Dummett updated the actual games themselves in 2004 in their double-volume set which I now have, but it doesn't go over the general history of card sin the same way. </p> <dl><dd>Apart from the above article, can you recommend any others that bring Dummett's historical analysis up to date? We may not have a new edition of <i>The Game of Tarot</i>, but it would be good to have an equivalent body of material, at least covering what's changed. I do have access to back issues of <i>The Playing Card</i>.</dd> <dd>Should I revert all my recent changes or would you prefer to bring them up to date? <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2020-10-28T15:43:00.000Z-Game_of_Tarot" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:43, 28 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2020-10-28T15:43:00.000Z-Game_of_Tarot"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2020-10-28T15:43:00.000Z-Game_of_Tarot"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Penneech" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Penneech-2020-12-05T12:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Penneech-2020-12-05T12:02:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Penneech<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Penneech-2020-12-05T12:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=40" title="Edit section: DYK for Penneech"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Casliber-2020-12-05T12:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Penneech"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2020/December#5_December_2020" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/December">5 December 2020</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Penneech" title="Penneech">Penneech</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that in the 17th-century <a href="/wiki/Card_game" title="Card game">card game</a> of <b><a href="/wiki/Penneech" title="Penneech">Penneech</a></b>, named after its highest card, the seven of diamonds, the <a href="/wiki/Trump_(card_games)" title="Trump (card games)">trump suit</a> changes with each <a href="/wiki/Trick-taking_game" title="Trick-taking game">trick</a>?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Penneech" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Penneech">Template:Did you know nominations/Penneech</a>. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2020-11-25&end=2020-12-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Penneech">Penneech</a>)</small>, and it may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a> if it received over 400 views per hour. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Casliber" title="User:Casliber">Cas Liber</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Casliber" title="User talk:Casliber">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Casliber" title="Special:Contributions/Casliber">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Casliber-2020-12-05T12:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Penneech" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:02, 5 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Casliber-2020-12-05T12:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Penneech"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Casliber-2020-12-05T12:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Penneech"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Translation_help" data-mw-thread-id="h-Translation_help-2020-12-18T14:18:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Translation_help-2020-12-18T14:18:00.000Z"></span>Translation help<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Translation_help-2020-12-18T14:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=41" title="Edit section: Translation help"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kwesi_Yema-2020-12-18T14:18:00.000Z-Translation_help"></span>Please help and translate this article [<a class="external text" href="https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regierung_von_Aschanti%7CGovernment">of the Ashanti Empire</a>] from German into English. The English translation at the moment is just a sub section of the <a href="/wiki/Ashanti_Empire" class="mw-redirect" title="Ashanti Empire">Ashanti Empire</a>. Please help translate the article into an English article. Notice the German title when translated into English will sound wrong as well. <a href="/wiki/User:Kwesi_Yema" title="User:Kwesi Yema">Kwesi Yema</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kwesi_Yema" title="User talk:Kwesi Yema">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Kwesi_Yema-2020-12-18T14:18:00.000Z-Translation_help" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:18, 18 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kwesi_Yema-2020-12-18T14:18:00.000Z-Translation_help"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kwesi_Yema-2020-12-18T14:18:00.000Z-Translation_help"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kwesi_Yema-2020-12-18T14:24:00.000Z-Translation_help"></span>Sorry for the mistake. The German article to be translated is <a href="/w/index.php?title=Regierung_von_Aschanti&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Regierung von Aschanti (page does not exist)">Regierung von Aschanti</a>. The English translation is just a subsection of <a href="/wiki/Ashanti_Empire" class="mw-redirect" title="Ashanti Empire">Ashanti Empire</a>. Can you please translate the article into a new English article? <a href="/wiki/User:Kwesi_Yema" title="User:Kwesi Yema">Kwesi Yema</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kwesi_Yema" title="User talk:Kwesi Yema">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Kwesi_Yema-2020-12-18T14:24:00.000Z-Translation_help" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:24, 18 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kwesi_Yema-2020-12-18T14:24:00.000Z-Translation_help"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kwesi_Yema-2020-12-18T14:24:00.000Z-Translation_help"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Dominoes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dominoes-2020-12-26T16:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Dominoes-2020-12-26T16:26:00.000Z"></span>Dominoes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Dominoes-2020-12-26T16:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=42" title="Edit section: Dominoes"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JayBeeEll-2020-12-26T16:26:00.000Z-Dominoes"></span>I don't really care about your recent edits to <a href="/wiki/Domino" class="mw-redirect" title="Domino">domino</a>, but you are <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/domino">certainly wrong</a> in your view that the word "domino" cannot be used for the tiles themselves. --<a href="/wiki/User:JayBeeEll" title="User:JayBeeEll">JBL</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JayBeeEll" title="User talk:JayBeeEll">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-JayBeeEll-2020-12-26T16:26:00.000Z-Dominoes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 26 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JayBeeEll-2020-12-26T16:26:00.000Z-Dominoes"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JayBeeEll-2020-12-26T16:26:00.000Z-Dominoes"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2020-12-26T16:38:00.000Z-JayBeeEll-2020-12-26T16:26:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:JayBeeEll" title="User:JayBeeEll">JayBeeEll</a>:</span> In this case, I can also quote a reliable source: at <a href="/wiki/John_McLeod_(card_game_researcher)" title="John McLeod (card game researcher)">John McLeod</a>'s <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.pagat.com/domino/terms.html"><i>Glossary of Domino Terms</i></a> it says "Dominoes: This is the name of the game. Contrary to popular usage, it is not the name of the tiles." As he is a games expert, I took my lead from him. However, it's always worth asking the question "why?" when we come across a different point of view, so in the light of your comment I plan to research this myself. I suspect McLeod is right from a purist's point of view, but once the masses have adopted a word to mean something, however incorrectly, dictionaries and encyclopaedias are bound to follow these days. In the meantime, I'm happy for my edits to be reverted; otherwise I'll tidy them up when I've done a bit more digging. I'll certainly represent both views. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2020-12-26T16:38:00.000Z-JayBeeEll-2020-12-26T16:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:38, 26 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2020-12-26T16:38:00.000Z-JayBeeEll-2020-12-26T16:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2020-12-26T16:38:00.000Z-JayBeeEll-2020-12-26T16:26:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JayBeeEll-2020-12-29T19:11:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2020-12-26T16:38:00.000Z"></span>Hi Bermicourt, well, as I said, I don't really care about it (by which I mean: your edits didn't make the article worse and in particular left things perfectly understandable) and it certainly doesn't seem worth reverting over. From what little I have read about this, the origin of the word "domino" for the game is old and very obscure, which makes it hard for me to believe one could confidently sort out whether it originally referred to the game or the pieces. I did go check the OED, which has quotes for the cloak going back to 1719, and for the game going back to 1801. It endorses the view that the word is used for both the game and the pieces. There are numerous other uses (apparently at some point "dominoes" was slang for "teeth", and also for piano keys) that wouldn't make sense if it was not understood that the dominoes were the pieces. Happy editing, <a href="/wiki/User:JayBeeEll" title="User:JayBeeEll">JBL</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JayBeeEll" title="User talk:JayBeeEll">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-JayBeeEll-2020-12-29T19:11:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2020-12-26T16:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:11, 29 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JayBeeEll-2020-12-29T19:11:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2020-12-26T16:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JayBeeEll-2020-12-29T19:11:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2020-12-26T16:38:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2020-12-29T22:37:00.000Z-JayBeeEll-2020-12-29T19:11:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:JayBeeEll" title="User:JayBeeEll">JayBeeEll</a>:</span>. I'll be amending the article to make this clear as I'm coming to a similar conclusion as I wade through domino rules, old and new. When the game first appeared in Europe, domino was the name of the game (going out was also called "going-" or "making domino"); and various other words were used for the tiles. In English they used 'pieces' to begin with, but by the mid-19th century American and British sources were using 'domino' to refer to the tiles and that use seems to be commonplace now, alongside "bones" and "tiles". Thanks for being forbearing. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2020-12-29T22:37:00.000Z-JayBeeEll-2020-12-29T19:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:37, 29 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2020-12-29T22:37:00.000Z-JayBeeEll-2020-12-29T19:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2020-12-29T22:37:00.000Z-JayBeeEll-2020-12-29T19:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Oh_Hell_game" data-mw-thread-id="h-Oh_Hell_game-2021-01-10T20:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Oh_Hell_game-2021-01-10T20:37:00.000Z"></span>Oh Hell game<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Oh_Hell_game-2021-01-10T20:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=43" title="Edit section: Oh Hell game"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CemEgri-2021-01-10T20:37:00.000Z-Oh_Hell_game"></span>Here are some references for the Turkish version of Oh Hell: <a class="external text" href="https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohel">Ohel</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.iskambilci.com/ohel-nasil-oynanir">Ohel</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://benimleoyna.wordpress.com/2016/09/05/ohel-nasil-oynanir">Ohel</a> </p><p>You can google "Ohel Kuralları" for much more. I wouldn't think of adding a new version, but I was suprised that no version in the current page has the "10 + square of bid" scoring system. It does add interesting twists in late game where more tricks are available. I did come across a few web pages in English where squared scoring is mentioned. One sample: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.pagat.com/exact/ohhell.html#scoring-vars">Vars</a><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:CemEgri&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:CemEgri (page does not exist)">CemEgri</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CemEgri#top" title="User talk:CemEgri">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/CemEgri" title="Special:Contributions/CemEgri">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-CemEgri-2021-01-10T20:37:00.000Z-Oh_Hell_game" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:37, 10 January 2021 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CemEgri-2021-01-10T20:37:00.000Z-Oh_Hell_game"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CemEgri-2021-01-10T20:37:00.000Z-Oh_Hell_game"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="King_Card_Game" data-mw-thread-id="h-King_Card_Game-2021-01-29T08:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-King_Card_Game-2021-01-29T08:15:00.000Z"></span>King Card Game<span data-mw-comment-end="h-King_Card_Game-2021-01-29T08:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=44" title="Edit section: King Card Game"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-01-29T08:15:00.000Z-King_Card_Game"></span>Hey, I was just on the <a href="/wiki/King_(card_game)" title="King (card game)">King (Card Game)</a> page to review the point distribution for the four player game and to my surprise, the rules for the entire game were gone and replaced with another game. I was just wondering why you did that and if you would be willing to add the rules to the four player game back on top of what ever version you added. </p> <dl><dd>Hi <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Adambombzz&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Adambombzz (page does not exist)">Adambombzz</a>. You can also access the old rules from the history of the article, for example, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=King_(card_game)&oldid=999910045">here</a>. The reason they were deleted was that the article was nominated for deletion due to lack of sources and apparent overlap with <a href="/wiki/Barbu_(card_game)" title="Barbu (card game)">Barbu</a>. The consensus was to 'keep' on the proviso that it was sourced. The only reliable source I could find for the game was <a href="/wiki/David_Parlett" title="David Parlett">Parlett's</a> description of the three-hand game. He doesn't give rules for a four-hand variant, nor does <a href="/wiki/John_McLeod_(card_game_researcher)" title="John McLeod (card game researcher)">McLeod</a> who was cited in the original article. However, McLeod points to descriptions of two similarly named four-hand games: <a href="/wiki/Turkish_King" class="mw-redirect" title="Turkish King">Turkish King</a>, which I have created, and a French variant, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.jeuxdecartes.net/jeux-cartes/jeu-du-roi/">Jeu du Roi</a>, which doesn't look like a reliable source. HTH. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2021-01-29T08:15:00.000Z-King_Card_Game" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:15, 29 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-01-29T08:15:00.000Z-King_Card_Game"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-01-29T08:15:00.000Z-King_Card_Game"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Apologies" data-mw-thread-id="h-Apologies-2021-03-01T20:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Apologies-2021-03-01T20:21:00.000Z"></span>Apologies<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Apologies-2021-03-01T20:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=45" title="Edit section: Apologies"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LouisAlain-2021-03-01T20:21:00.000Z-Apologies"></span>Hi and sorry for changing something on your personal page, the other day. Of course I shouldn't have done what I did : I was like a <a href="/wiki/TGV" title="TGV">TGV</a> full speed on its track and by dint of habit, I made this sorry mistake. <a href="/wiki/User:LouisAlain" title="User:LouisAlain">LouisAlain</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LouisAlain" title="User talk:LouisAlain">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-LouisAlain-2021-03-01T20:21:00.000Z-Apologies" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:21, 1 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LouisAlain-2021-03-01T20:21:00.000Z-Apologies"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LouisAlain-2021-03-01T20:21:00.000Z-Apologies"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-03-01T21:18:00.000Z-LouisAlain-2021-03-01T20:21:00.000Z"></span>Don't worries, that's entirely understandable. Keep up the good work. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2021-03-01T21:18:00.000Z-LouisAlain-2021-03-01T20:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:18, 1 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-03-01T21:18:00.000Z-LouisAlain-2021-03-01T20:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-03-01T21:18:00.000Z-LouisAlain-2021-03-01T20:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="German_castle_terminology_can_NOT_be_translated_ad_litteram_into_English!" data-mw-thread-id="h-German_castle_terminology_can_NOT_be_translated_ad_litteram_into_English!-2021-03-09T19:01:00.000Z"><span id="German_castle_terminology_can_NOT_be_translated_ad_litteram_into_English.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-German_castle_terminology_can_NOT_be_translated_ad_litteram_into_English!-2021-03-09T19:01:00.000Z"></span>German castle terminology can NOT be translated <i>ad litteram</i> into English!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-German_castle_terminology_can_NOT_be_translated_ad_litteram_into_English!-2021-03-09T19:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=46" title="Edit section: German castle terminology can NOT be translated ad litteram into English!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arminden-2021-03-09T19:01:00.000Z-German_castle_terminology_can_NOT_be_translated_ad_litteram_into_English!"></span>English has its own, centuries-old terminology regarding fortifications. You've been translating German articles into English like there's no tomorrow (<a href="/wiki/Fortified_gateway" title="Fortified gateway">fortified gateway</a>, <a href="/wiki/Bridge_castle" title="Bridge castle">bridge castle</a>, God knows what else), without paying attention to the correct, well-established English terminology. Some German terms simply don't exist in English, some mean something else altogether if translated literally. These "articles" are misleading, mainly to non-native speakers, who take them to represent something real in English, which they don't. Please, do some research before doing any more of this! Eine wortwörtliche Übersetzung ohne vorherige Recherche ist <i>immer</i> ein grundsätzlicher Fehler, der kaum noch korrigiert werden kann, Ihre Arbeit und jene aller, die nach Ihnen etwas beitragen, ist für die Katz, verschwendet, umsonst, oder noch schlimmer: Sie ist irreführend. Übersetzer ist ein Beruf und muss durch harte Arbeit erlernt werden, Google Translate ist dagegen nur ein schnelle Hilfe für unterwegs. Thank you. Danke für Ihr Verständnis. <a href="/wiki/User:Arminden" title="User:Arminden">Arminden</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Arminden" title="User talk:Arminden">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Arminden-2021-03-09T19:01:00.000Z-German_castle_terminology_can_NOT_be_translated_ad_litteram_into_English!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:01, 9 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arminden-2021-03-09T19:01:00.000Z-German_castle_terminology_can_NOT_be_translated_ad_litteram_into_English!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arminden-2021-03-09T19:01:00.000Z-German_castle_terminology_can_NOT_be_translated_ad_litteram_into_English!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-03-10T16:15:00.000Z-Arminden-2021-03-09T19:01:00.000Z"></span>You need to learn some manners and to avoid making sweeping, over-the-top accusations that aren't true. I'm well aware of the terminology of English 'castellology' and German <i>Burgenkunde</i> and the fact that some terms don't have an English equivalent, hence my work on <i><a href="/wiki/Bergfried" title="Bergfried">bergfried</a>, <a href="/wiki/Palas" title="Palas">palas</a></i> and <i><a href="/wiki/Angstloch" title="Angstloch">angstloch</a></i>. But translation is an art, not a science. And please don't lecture me about so-called 'professional translators' - I've seen them make some real howlers in specialist literature. I've responded to your other comments at the talk pages concerned. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2021-03-10T16:15:00.000Z-Arminden-2021-03-09T19:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 10 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-03-10T16:15:00.000Z-Arminden-2021-03-09T19:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-03-10T16:15:00.000Z-Arminden-2021-03-09T19:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Precious_anniversary_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Precious_anniversary_2-2021-03-10T06:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Precious_anniversary_2-2021-03-10T06:23:00.000Z"></span>Precious anniversary<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Precious_anniversary_2-2021-03-10T06:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=47" title="Edit section: Precious anniversary"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2021-03-10T06:23:00.000Z-Precious_anniversary_2"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1257001546"><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow:0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75); border-radius:0.5em;"><caption class="infobox-title">Precious</caption><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg/130px-Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg" decoding="async" width="130" height="156" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg/195px-Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg/260px-Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1490" data-file-height="1792"/></a></span></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Quality_Article_Improvement/Precious#Bermicourt" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Precious">Nine years!</a></th></tr></tbody></table><p> --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Gerda_Arendt-2021-03-10T06:23:00.000Z-Precious_anniversary_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:23, 10 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2021-03-10T06:23:00.000Z-Precious_anniversary_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-2021-03-10T06:23:00.000Z-Precious_anniversary_2"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Water_castle" data-mw-thread-id="h-Water_castle-2021-03-12T12:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Water_castle-2021-03-12T12:56:00.000Z"></span>Water castle<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Water_castle-2021-03-12T12:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=48" title="Edit section: Water castle"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-03-12T12:56:00.000Z-Water_castle"></span>I've reverted your changes because, in the contentious area of the title, we should be following <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">WP:BRD</a> and discussing any changes on the talk page. I agree with some of the other areas, so I think we can make some improvements. But you need to provide evidence to show that <i>Wasserburg</i> is the accepted English word in sources before changing that bit again. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2021-03-12T12:56:00.000Z-Water_castle" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:56, 12 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-03-12T12:56:00.000Z-Water_castle"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-03-12T12:56:00.000Z-Water_castle"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Translation_of_Trenton_Joel_Tollakson_Wikipedia_Page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Translation_of_Trenton_Joel_Tollakson_Wikipedia_Page-2021-05-17T19:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Translation_of_Trenton_Joel_Tollakson_Wikipedia_Page-2021-05-17T19:58:00.000Z"></span>Translation of Trenton Joel Tollakson Wikipedia Page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Translation_of_Trenton_Joel_Tollakson_Wikipedia_Page-2021-05-17T19:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=49" title="Edit section: Translation of Trenton Joel Tollakson Wikipedia Page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-66.206.79.34-2021-05-17T19:58:00.000Z-Translation_of_Trenton_Joel_Tollakson_Wikipedia_Page"></span>Hello, could you help me translate my personal wikipedia page: <a class="external free" href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/TJ_Tollakson">https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/TJ_Tollakson</a> from German to English? Cheers, TJ Tollakson <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/66.206.79.34" title="Special:Contributions/66.206.79.34">66.206.79.34</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:66.206.79.34&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:66.206.79.34 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-66.206.79.34-2021-05-17T19:58:00.000Z-Translation_of_Trenton_Joel_Tollakson_Wikipedia_Page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:58, 17 May 2021 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-66.206.79.34-2021-05-17T19:58:00.000Z-Translation_of_Trenton_Joel_Tollakson_Wikipedia_Page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-66.206.79.34-2021-05-17T19:58:00.000Z-Translation_of_Trenton_Joel_Tollakson_Wikipedia_Page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-05-17T20:41:00.000Z-66.206.79.34-2021-05-17T19:58:00.000Z"></span>That's done. It probably needs some tweaking by an editor familiar with the sport. You should not edit your own bio though. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2021-05-17T20:41:00.000Z-66.206.79.34-2021-05-17T19:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:41, 17 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-05-17T20:41:00.000Z-66.206.79.34-2021-05-17T19:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-05-17T20:41:00.000Z-66.206.79.34-2021-05-17T19:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Weser_Renaissance" data-mw-thread-id="h-Weser_Renaissance-2021-07-12T17:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Weser_Renaissance-2021-07-12T17:45:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Weser_Renaissance" title="Weser Renaissance">Weser Renaissance</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Weser_Renaissance-2021-07-12T17:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=50" title="Edit section: Weser Renaissance"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Catchpoke-2021-07-12T17:45:00.000Z-Weser_Renaissance"></span>The revert included an edit summary explaining my edit and your friend didn't supply an edit summary so your revert was unhelpful. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Catchpoke&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Catchpoke (page does not exist)">Catchpoke</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Catchpoke" title="User talk:Catchpoke">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Catchpoke-2021-07-12T17:45:00.000Z-Weser_Renaissance" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:45, 12 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Catchpoke-2021-07-12T17:45:00.000Z-Weser_Renaissance"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Catchpoke-2021-07-12T17:45:00.000Z-Weser_Renaissance"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-07-12T17:49:00.000Z-Catchpoke-2021-07-12T17:45:00.000Z"></span>It's good to include a comment with edits, but you didn't follow the right process after being reverted, which iaw <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">WP:BRD</a> is to go to the talk page and explain your 'bold' edit there. Otherwise we just end up with edit wars which is pointless. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2021-07-12T17:49:00.000Z-Catchpoke-2021-07-12T17:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:49, 12 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-07-12T17:49:00.000Z-Catchpoke-2021-07-12T17:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-07-12T17:49:00.000Z-Catchpoke-2021-07-12T17:45:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Catchpoke-2021-07-12T17:53:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-07-12T17:49:00.000Z"></span>I posted this before finding out that you agreed with me. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Catchpoke&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Catchpoke (page does not exist)">Catchpoke</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Catchpoke" title="User talk:Catchpoke">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Catchpoke-2021-07-12T17:53:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-07-12T17:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:53, 12 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Catchpoke-2021-07-12T17:53:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-07-12T17:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Catchpoke-2021-07-12T17:53:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-07-12T17:49:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-07-12T18:03:00.000Z-Catchpoke-2021-07-12T17:53:00.000Z"></span>No worries. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2021-07-12T18:03:00.000Z-Catchpoke-2021-07-12T17:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:03, 12 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-07-12T18:03:00.000Z-Catchpoke-2021-07-12T17:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-07-12T18:03:00.000Z-Catchpoke-2021-07-12T17:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Need_help_to_get_an_article_translated" data-mw-thread-id="h-Need_help_to_get_an_article_translated-2021-07-26T20:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Need_help_to_get_an_article_translated-2021-07-26T20:32:00.000Z"></span>Need help to get an article translated<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Need_help_to_get_an_article_translated-2021-07-26T20:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=51" title="Edit section: Need help to get an article translated"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-07-26T20:32:00.000Z-Need_help_to_get_an_article_translated"></span>Dear Bermicourt, hopefully you can help: I'm looking for someone translating this article from German into English: <a class="external free" href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebastian_Bonhoeffer">https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebastian_Bonhoeffer</a> To be honest: for me it's very complicated to find out how to do that. I tried but failed. It would be really great if you can help or if you know someone who possibly can do the translation. Many thanks and best wishes from Zurich, Andrea </p> <dl><dd>That's done, Andrea, although there are one or two loose ends to tidy up which I'll leave to the experts. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2021-07-26T20:32:00.000Z-Need_help_to_get_an_article_translated" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:32, 26 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-07-26T20:32:00.000Z-Need_help_to_get_an_article_translated"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-07-26T20:32:00.000Z-Need_help_to_get_an_article_translated"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Eder_river" data-mw-thread-id="h-Eder_river-2021-07-26T17:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Eder_river-2021-07-26T17:20:00.000Z"></span>Eder river<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Eder_river-2021-07-26T17:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=52" title="Edit section: Eder river"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vpab15-2021-07-26T17:20:00.000Z-Eder_river"></span>Hi Bermicourt, regarding <a href="/wiki/Eder_(Fulda)" title="Eder (Fulda)">Eder (Fulda)</a>, I chose to move it to <a href="/wiki/Eder_(river)" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="Eder (river)">Eder (river)</a> so that it follows <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NCRIVER" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NCRIVER">WP:NCRIVER</a>, as Lennart97 mentions. I am aware there is another river with the same name, but this river would be the clear primary topic for a river. As mentioned in NCRIVER: <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">The primary topic can stay at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Undisambiguated" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Undisambiguated">undisambiguated</a> title while lesser-known ones add a qualifier, e.g., <a href="/wiki/Jordan_River" title="Jordan River">Jordan River</a> (in the Middle East), <a href="/wiki/Jordan_River_(disambiguation)" class="mw-disambig" title="Jordan River (disambiguation)">Jordan River (disambiguation)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Jordan_River_(Utah)" title="Jordan River (Utah)">Jordan River (Utah)</a>"</q>. Do you think you can move it back to <a href="/wiki/Eder_(river)" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="Eder (river)">Eder (river)</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:Vpab15" title="User:Vpab15">Vpab15</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vpab15" title="User talk:Vpab15">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Vpab15-2021-07-26T17:20:00.000Z-Eder_river" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:20, 26 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vpab15-2021-07-26T17:20:00.000Z-Eder_river"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vpab15-2021-07-26T17:20:00.000Z-Eder_river"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-07-26T20:33:00.000Z-Vpab15-2021-07-26T17:20:00.000Z"></span>Done.<a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2021-07-26T20:33:00.000Z-Vpab15-2021-07-26T17:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:33, 26 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-07-26T20:33:00.000Z-Vpab15-2021-07-26T17:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-07-26T20:33:00.000Z-Vpab15-2021-07-26T17:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vpab15-2021-07-26T20:38:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-07-26T20:33:00.000Z"></span>Thank you! <a href="/wiki/User:Vpab15" title="User:Vpab15">Vpab15</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vpab15" title="User talk:Vpab15">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Vpab15-2021-07-26T20:38:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-07-26T20:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:38, 26 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vpab15-2021-07-26T20:38:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-07-26T20:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vpab15-2021-07-26T20:38:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-07-26T20:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Crouch,_Swale-2021-07-28T17:12:00.000Z-Vpab15-2021-07-26T20:38:00.000Z"></span>NCRIVER says "If different rivers with the same name exist, disambiguate with parentheses using either the parent river, country or (if both in the same country) the largest geographical entity that distinguishes them" so I don't think that was appropriate and it appears to have simply been that Lennart97 didn't notice the other river. The proposal fits in with that while the alternative doesn't. While partial disambiguation is occasionally used it has been controversial so I don't think it should have been done without more consensus at least. The primary topic example of <a href="/wiki/Jordan_River" title="Jordan River">Jordan River</a> is a base title not a qualified title namely one with brackets anyway. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Crouch,_Swale" title="User:Crouch, Swale"><span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Crouch,_Swale" title="User talk:Crouch, Swale"><span style="color:Blue">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Crouch,_Swale-2021-07-28T17:12:00.000Z-Vpab15-2021-07-26T20:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:12, 28 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Crouch,_Swale-2021-07-28T17:12:00.000Z-Vpab15-2021-07-26T20:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Crouch,_Swale-2021-07-28T17:12:00.000Z-Vpab15-2021-07-26T20:38:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-07-28T18:25:00.000Z-Crouch,_Swale-2021-07-28T17:12:00.000Z"></span>I'll move this discussion to the talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2021-07-28T18:25:00.000Z-Crouch,_Swale-2021-07-28T17:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-07-28T18:25:00.000Z-Crouch,_Swale-2021-07-28T17:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-07-28T18:25:00.000Z-Crouch,_Swale-2021-07-28T17:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ace-Ten_games" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ace-Ten_games-2021-08-03T05:18:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ace-Ten_games-2021-08-03T05:18:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Ace-Ten_games" class="mw-redirect" title="Ace-Ten games">Ace-Ten games</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ace-Ten_games-2021-08-03T05:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=53" title="Edit section: Ace-Ten games"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-03T05:18:00.000Z-Ace-Ten_games"></span>Hi Bermicourt, really appreciate the effort you put into the article <a href="/wiki/Ace-Ten_games" class="mw-redirect" title="Ace-Ten games">Ace-Ten games</a>! Unfortunately there are some dangling references to sources. Could let us know the source for Dummett? And which of the Parlett books did you reference? I've temporarily <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ace-Ten_games&type=revision&diff=1036867235&oldid=1024878622">hidden</a> the citations. Hope you can help us retrieve these sources! - <a href="/wiki/User:Aussie_Article_Writer" title="User:Aussie Article Writer">Aussie Article Writer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aussie_Article_Writer" title="User talk:Aussie Article Writer">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-03T05:18:00.000Z-Ace-Ten_games" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:18, 3 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-03T05:18:00.000Z-Ace-Ten_games"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-03T05:18:00.000Z-Ace-Ten_games"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-08-03T07:24:00.000Z-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-03T05:18:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Aussie_Article_Writer" title="User:Aussie Article Writer">Aussie Article Writer</a>:</span> That's done. Thanks for alerting me. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2021-08-03T07:24:00.000Z-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-03T05:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:24, 3 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-08-03T07:24:00.000Z-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-03T05:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-08-03T07:24:00.000Z-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-03T05:18:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-03T08:10:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-03T07:24:00.000Z"></span>No probs :-) I converted it to the citation template. - <a href="/wiki/User:Aussie_Article_Writer" title="User:Aussie Article Writer">Aussie Article Writer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aussie_Article_Writer" title="User talk:Aussie Article Writer">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-03T08:10:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-03T07:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:10, 3 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-03T08:10:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-03T07:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-03T08:10:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-03T07:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Animal_Tarot" data-mw-thread-id="h-Animal_Tarot-2021-08-05T09:18:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Animal_Tarot-2021-08-05T09:18:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Animal_Tarot" title="Animal Tarot">Animal Tarot</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Animal_Tarot-2021-08-05T09:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=54" title="Edit section: Animal Tarot"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-05T09:18:00.000Z-Animal_Tarot"></span>Hi Bermicourt, with <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Animal_tarot&diff=next&oldid=1037136977">this edit</a>, you added a reference to Birlinger & Pfaff 1916... but there isn't any source... do you still have that so we can add it to the article? - <a href="/wiki/User:Aussie_Article_Writer" title="User:Aussie Article Writer">Aussie Article Writer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aussie_Article_Writer" title="User talk:Aussie Article Writer">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-05T09:18:00.000Z-Animal_Tarot" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:18, 5 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-05T09:18:00.000Z-Animal_Tarot"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-05T09:18:00.000Z-Animal_Tarot"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-08-05T10:37:00.000Z-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-05T09:18:00.000Z"></span>Done. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2021-08-05T10:37:00.000Z-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-05T09:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:37, 5 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-08-05T10:37:00.000Z-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-05T09:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-08-05T10:37:00.000Z-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-05T09:18:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-05T12:45:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-05T10:37:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! - <a href="/wiki/User:Aussie_Article_Writer" title="User:Aussie Article Writer">Aussie Article Writer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aussie_Article_Writer" title="User talk:Aussie Article Writer">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-05T12:45:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-05T10:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:45, 5 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-05T12:45:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-05T10:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-05T12:45:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-05T10:37:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-06T01:32:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-05T10:37:00.000Z"></span>Sorry to be a pain Bermicourt, but I've found another dangling ref - see <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Animal_tarot&diff=1037352079&oldid=1037351421">this edit</a> where I hid it. Would you know the source? - <a href="/wiki/User:Aussie_Article_Writer" title="User:Aussie Article Writer">Aussie Article Writer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aussie_Article_Writer" title="User talk:Aussie Article Writer">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-06T01:32:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-05T10:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:32, 6 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-06T01:32:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-05T10:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aussie_Article_Writer-2021-08-06T01:32:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-05T10:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Dreierles" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Dreierles-2021-08-13T00:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Dreierles-2021-08-13T00:02:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Dreierles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Dreierles-2021-08-13T00:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=55" title="Edit section: DYK for Dreierles"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cwmhiraeth-2021-08-13T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Dreierles"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2021/August#13_August_2021" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/August">13 August 2021</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Dreierles" title="Dreierles">Dreierles</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that German soldiers fighting with <a href="/wiki/Napoleon" title="Napoleon">Napoleon</a> brought home a Spanish modification to the <a href="/wiki/Tarot_card_games" title="Tarot card games">Tarot game</a> of <b><a href="/wiki/Dreierles" title="Dreierles">Dreierles</a></b> </i>(pictured)<i> that resulted in <a href="/wiki/Baden" title="Baden">Baden</a>'s national game of <a href="/wiki/Cego" title="Cego">Cego</a>?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Dreierles" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Dreierles">Template:Did you know nominations/Dreierles</a>. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2021-08-03&end=2021-08-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Dreierles">Dreierles</a>)</small>, and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a>. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Cwmhiraeth" title="User:Cwmhiraeth">Cwmhiraeth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cwmhiraeth" title="User talk:Cwmhiraeth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Cwmhiraeth-2021-08-13T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Dreierles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:02, 13 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cwmhiraeth-2021-08-13T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Dreierles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cwmhiraeth-2021-08-13T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Dreierles"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sfn_errors" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sfn_errors-2021-08-13T15:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sfn_errors-2021-08-13T15:15:00.000Z"></span>Sfn errors<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sfn_errors-2021-08-13T15:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=56" title="Edit section: Sfn errors"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-13T15:15:00.000Z-Sfn_errors"></span>Hi. Thanks for sorting out the Polish translation issues. </p><p>I would like to compare notes with you one what drew my attention to <a href="/wiki/Bettelmann" title="Bettelmann">Bettelmann</a> in the first place. I was working my way through <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://bambots.brucemyers.com/cwb/bycat/Board_and_table_games.html#Harv%20and%20Sfn%20no-target%20errors">Sfn errors</a> and using <a href="/wiki/Template:Sfn" title="Template:Sfn">Template:Sfn</a> as a guide. I found it worked quite well, so long as the sources were fundamentally correct. It meant that if you click on the link in the References section it highlights the corresponding link in the Literature section. That's quite nice I think. </p><p>As far as I can tell you have resolved all the Sfn errors in the <a href="/wiki/Bettelmann" title="Bettelmann">Bettelmann</a> article using a different approach. So I would appreciate hearing your views. <a href="/wiki/User:Slimy_asparagus" title="User:Slimy asparagus">Slimy asparagus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Slimy_asparagus" title="User talk:Slimy asparagus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-13T15:15:00.000Z-Sfn_errors" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:15, 13 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-13T15:15:00.000Z-Sfn_errors"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-13T15:15:00.000Z-Sfn_errors"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-08-13T16:27:00.000Z-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-13T15:15:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Slimy_asparagus" title="User:Slimy asparagus">Slimy asparagus</a>:</span> sure. I started using <a href="/wiki/Template:Sfn" title="Template:Sfn">Template:Sfn</a> a long while ago because it gave a consistent way of displaying references. What I didn't appreciate was that, unless it was linked to a full citation template in the bibliography, it generated error messages, even if the full reference was correctly entered manually. Basically you have to use one system or the other; you can't mix and match. Personally I prefer to enter the full references manually - it's quicker - so when I come across places where I've generated error messages by using <a href="/wiki/Template:Sfn" title="Template:Sfn">Template:Sfn</a>, I just revert my edits to the non-template system. HTH. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2021-08-13T16:27:00.000Z-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-13T15:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 13 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-08-13T16:27:00.000Z-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-13T15:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-08-13T16:27:00.000Z-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-13T15:15:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-13T16:53:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-13T16:27:00.000Z"></span>Okay. You haven't convinced me that Template:Sfn used in conjunction with Template:Cite book is a bad idea. However I no intention of telling you how to edit pages that you have more interest in than I. And you have more experience than I do, so maybe you're right. In any case it only makes sense to me when a Wikipedia page is mostly making page-specific references to offline sources.</dd> <dd>From your user page your board game interests seem to be card games. Anything else? I shall be extremely cautious in touching those pages and I shall certainly defer to you. I have put my interests on my user page. More generally I want to look at whatever metrics we have or can construct and trying to improve them.</dd> <dd>Speaking of which, are you going to work on fixing errors on pages in your area of interest, using this page: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://bambots.brucemyers.com/cwb/bycat/Board_and_table_games.html">[7]</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:Slimy_asparagus" title="User:Slimy asparagus">Slimy asparagus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Slimy_asparagus" title="User talk:Slimy asparagus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-13T16:53:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-13T16:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:53, 13 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-13T16:53:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-13T16:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-13T16:53:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-13T16:27:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-08-13T17:30:00.000Z-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-13T16:53:00.000Z"></span>I don't think the template combination is a bad idea; I just prefer not to use it. Probably because when importing references from de.wiki, converting them to use the template takes up valuable time that I'd rather spend on translation itself.</dd> <dd>Yes, my focus is on researching and playing card games, especially traditional Austrian and German ones, although I have also forayed into other European and Anglo-American games and have researched a number of domino games too. I have close links with a number of experts in the field which helps. I and my family play board games, but am no expert and wouldn't have the time to expand into that area.</dd> <dd>Re the error log - yes, I've only just come across that and will certainly take a look at doing some fixes. Probably not in the next week or two as I'm on holiday with family. Cheers. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2021-08-13T17:30:00.000Z-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-13T16:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:30, 13 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-08-13T17:30:00.000Z-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-13T16:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-08-13T17:30:00.000Z-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-13T16:53:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-24T14:41:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-13T17:30:00.000Z"></span>So the report came out today.We have two new pages: <a href="/wiki/Brelan" title="Brelan">Brelan</a> and <a href="/wiki/Culbas" title="Culbas">Culbas</a>. Also I was thought I might look at "CS1 errors: extra text: volume" today, but I will leave <a href="/wiki/Zwickern" title="Zwickern">Zwickern</a> and the above to you. <a href="/wiki/User:Slimy_asparagus" title="User:Slimy asparagus">Slimy asparagus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Slimy_asparagus" title="User talk:Slimy asparagus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-24T14:41:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-13T17:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:41, 24 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-24T14:41:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-13T17:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-24T14:41:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-13T17:30:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-08-24T15:05:00.000Z-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-24T14:41:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, those three are fixed. I will continue to do this as I come across them anyway, but don't mind you flagging others up periodically. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2021-08-24T15:05:00.000Z-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-24T14:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 24 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-08-24T15:05:00.000Z-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-24T14:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-08-24T15:05:00.000Z-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-24T14:41:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-24T15:59:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-24T15:05:00.000Z"></span>I am still seeing an error in <a href="/wiki/Zwickern" title="Zwickern">Zwickern</a>. By the way I followed the advice in <a href="/wiki/Help:CS1_errors#Controlling_error_message_display" title="Help:CS1 errors">Help:CS1_errors#Controlling_error_message_display</a> and it enables me to find the errors quickly. <a href="/wiki/User:Slimy_asparagus" title="User:Slimy asparagus">Slimy asparagus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Slimy_asparagus" title="User talk:Slimy asparagus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-24T15:59:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-24T15:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:59, 24 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-24T15:59:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-24T15:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slimy_asparagus-2021-08-24T15:59:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-08-24T15:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Comet_(card_game)" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Comet_(card_game)-2021-08-29T12:02:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_for_Comet_.28card_game.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Comet_(card_game)-2021-08-29T12:02:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Comet (card game)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Comet_(card_game)-2021-08-29T12:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=57" title="Edit section: DYK for Comet (card game)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cwmhiraeth-2021-08-29T12:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Comet_(card_game)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2021/August#29_August_2021" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/August">29 August 2021</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Comet_(card_game)" title="Comet (card game)">Comet (card game)</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that the <a href="/wiki/Card_game" title="Card game">card game</a> <b><a href="/wiki/Comet_(card_game)" title="Comet (card game)">Comet</a></b>, originally called </i>Manille<i>, was renamed in 1682 after the appearance of <a href="/wiki/Halley%27s_Comet" title="Halley's Comet">Halley's Comet</a>?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Comet_(card_game)" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Comet (card game)">Template:Did you know nominations/Comet (card game)</a>. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2021-08-19&end=2021-09-08&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Comet_(card_game)">Comet (card game)</a>)</small>, and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a>. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Cwmhiraeth" title="User:Cwmhiraeth">Cwmhiraeth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cwmhiraeth" title="User talk:Cwmhiraeth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Cwmhiraeth-2021-08-29T12:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Comet_(card_game)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:02, 29 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cwmhiraeth-2021-08-29T12:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Comet_(card_game)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cwmhiraeth-2021-08-29T12:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Comet_(card_game)"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WP:V" data-mw-thread-id="h-WP:V-2021-09-03T23:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WP:V-2021-09-03T23:31:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">WP:V</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-WP:V-2021-09-03T23:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=58" title="Edit section: WP:V"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RandomCanadian-2021-09-03T23:31:00.000Z-WP:V"></span>I really don't want to come down as condescending on this, but really, you've been here long enough that I shouldn't be having to revert edits like <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=German-suited_playing_cards&type=revision&diff=1042244864&oldid=1042162069">this</a> because they fail to provide a reliable source. <a href="/wiki/User:RandomCanadian" title="User:RandomCanadian">RandomCanadian</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RandomCanadian" title="User talk:RandomCanadian">talk</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/RandomCanadian" title="Special:Contributions/RandomCanadian">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-RandomCanadian-2021-09-03T23:31:00.000Z-WP:V" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:31, 3 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RandomCanadian-2021-09-03T23:31:00.000Z-WP:V"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RandomCanadian-2021-09-03T23:31:00.000Z-WP:V"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-09-04T07:49:00.000Z-RandomCanadian-2021-09-03T23:31:00.000Z"></span>... condescending and perhaps a little hasty. Wikipedia doesn't require a source per sentence and it's usually helpful to request a source for a good faith edit from an editor before reverting and causing both of us unnecessary work. And none of your changes were cited either BTW. I've largely reinstated my edit at <a href="/wiki/German-suited_playing_cards" title="German-suited playing cards">German-suited playing cards</a>, adding the relevant sources, so that should now be fine. Your comment at <a href="/wiki/Passenger_railroad_car" title="Passenger railroad car">passenger railroad car</a> wrongly assumes I didn't read the background. In fact I did read the sorry saga of the move request, which went ahead despite a split vote and which has only made a poor situation worse. "Passenger railroad car" is the least universal and least common of the discussed options. Meanwhile, given the resulting horlicks, I was simply trying to clarify who uses which terms in order to begin addressing its multiple issues. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2021-09-04T07:49:00.000Z-RandomCanadian-2021-09-03T23:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:49, 4 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-09-04T07:49:00.000Z-RandomCanadian-2021-09-03T23:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-09-04T07:49:00.000Z-RandomCanadian-2021-09-03T23:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Again?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Again?-2021-09-11T18:43:00.000Z"><span id="Again.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Again?-2021-09-11T18:43:00.000Z"></span>Again?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Again?-2021-09-11T18:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=59" title="Edit section: Again?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Noclador-2021-09-11T18:43:00.000Z-Again?"></span>"Tyrolese" is an outdated 18th/19th century English term. Please stop insisting on using an outdated term. National Geographic uses <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/2017/09/italy-tyroleans-do-it-better">Tyroleans</a>, as does South Tyrol's marketing agency: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.suedtirol.info/en/this-is-south-tyrol/people">South Tyroleans</a>. As does the province itself: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.provinz.bz.it/this-is-south-tyrol/separation-from-austria.asp">itself</a> and so on and on. Tyrolean is the correct name nowadays, so please stop reverting to an outdated tern. <a href="/wiki/User:Noclador" title="User:Noclador">noclador</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Noclador" title="User talk:Noclador">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Noclador-2021-09-11T18:43:00.000Z-Again?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:43, 11 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Noclador-2021-09-11T18:43:00.000Z-Again?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Noclador-2021-09-11T18:43:00.000Z-Again?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-09-11T21:22:00.000Z-Noclador-2021-09-11T18:43:00.000Z"></span>Please follow <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">WP:BRD</a> and discuss this on the <a href="/wiki/Talk:Tyrolean_Unterland" title="Talk:Tyrolean Unterland">talk page</a>, not here. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2021-09-11T21:22:00.000Z-Noclador-2021-09-11T18:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:22, 11 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-09-11T21:22:00.000Z-Noclador-2021-09-11T18:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-09-11T21:22:00.000Z-Noclador-2021-09-11T18:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Missing_language_links_for_flat_wagon" data-mw-thread-id="h-Missing_language_links_for_flat_wagon-2021-09-25T03:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Missing_language_links_for_flat_wagon-2021-09-25T03:04:00.000Z"></span>Missing language links for flat wagon<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Missing_language_links_for_flat_wagon-2021-09-25T03:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=60" title="Edit section: Missing language links for flat wagon"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peter_Horn-2021-09-25T03:04:00.000Z-Missing_language_links_for_flat_wagon"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a>:</span> Still <b>missing</b> language links (other languages) for <a href="/wiki/Flat_wagon" title="Flat wagon">flat wagon</a>: <a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vag%C3%B3n_plataforma" class="extiw" title="es:Vagón plataforma">es:Vagón plataforma</a>, <a href="https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plo%C5%A1inov%C3%BD_v%C5%AFz" class="extiw" title="cs:Plošinový vůz">cs:Plošinový vůz</a>, <a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%95%B7%E7%89%A9%E8%BB%8A" class="extiw" title="ja:長物車">ja:長物車</a> and perhaps <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Containerwagen" class="extiw" title="nl:Containerwagen">nl:Containerwagen</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Peter_Horn" title="User:Peter Horn">Peter Horn</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Peter_Horn" title="User talk:Peter Horn">User talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Peter_Horn-2021-09-25T03:04:00.000Z-Missing_language_links_for_flat_wagon" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:04, 25 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Peter_Horn-2021-09-25T03:04:00.000Z-Missing_language_links_for_flat_wagon"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Peter_Horn-2021-09-25T03:04:00.000Z-Missing_language_links_for_flat_wagon"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peter_Horn-2021-09-25T03:40:00.000Z-Peter_Horn-2021-09-25T03:04:00.000Z"></span>Correction, <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Containerwagen" class="extiw" title="nl:Containerwagen">nl:Containerwagen</a> should be linked to <a href="/wiki/Flat_car" class="mw-redirect" title="Flat car">flat car</a> as should also be <a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%B3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%86%E3%83%8A%E8%BB%8A" class="extiw" title="ja:コンテナ車">ja:コンテナ車</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Peter_Horn" title="User:Peter Horn">Peter Horn</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Peter_Horn" title="User talk:Peter Horn">User talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Peter_Horn-2021-09-25T03:40:00.000Z-Peter_Horn-2021-09-25T03:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:40, 25 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Peter_Horn-2021-09-25T03:40:00.000Z-Peter_Horn-2021-09-25T03:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Peter_Horn-2021-09-25T03:40:00.000Z-Peter_Horn-2021-09-25T03:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reverting_"entered_into_service"_versus_"taken_into_service"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reverting_"entered_into_service"_versus_"taken_into_service"-2021-10-09T17:35:00.000Z"><span id="Reverting_.22entered_into_service.22_versus_.22taken_into_service.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reverting_"entered_into_service"_versus_"taken_into_service"-2021-10-09T17:35:00.000Z"></span>Reverting "entered into service" versus "taken into service"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reverting_"entered_into_service"_versus_"taken_into_service"-2021-10-09T17:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=61" title="Edit section: Reverting "entered into service" versus "taken into service""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stephen_Hui-2021-10-09T17:35:00.000Z-Reverting_"entered_into_service"_versus_"taken_into_service""></span>Hi there, About your <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Neuland_Lighthouse&diff=1049002084&oldid=1048972358">reverting my change</a> of "taken into service" to "entered into service". Not disputing your change at all, but I do want to comment on it. In nearly five decades as a native English speaker I'd never seen the term "taken into service" until I read this article, whereas I see "entered into service" quite frequently. </p><p>Google shows nearly twice as many hits for "taken into service" than "entered into service", so I don't doubt that it's a common phrase. I'm guessing it may be more commonly used in Europe (where you're from) than in North America (where I'm from), which would explain the different perspectives. Given that context, I'm surprised you resorted to a revert, which <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ROWN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ROWN">"tends to be hostile"</a>. Given that mine was a good-faith edit, and our disagreement appears to be one of British versus American English, I was surprised that you chose to rebuke me in a way that will live in my stats forever. </p><p>I'm not offended, but maybe be a bit less aggressive with reverting in the future? <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen_Hui" title="User:Stephen Hui">Stephen Hui</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen_Hui" title="User talk:Stephen Hui">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Stephen_Hui-2021-10-09T17:35:00.000Z-Reverting_"entered_into_service"_versus_"taken_into_service"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:35, 9 October 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stephen_Hui-2021-10-09T17:35:00.000Z-Reverting_"entered_into_service"_versus_"taken_into_service""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stephen_Hui-2021-10-09T17:35:00.000Z-Reverting_"entered_into_service"_versus_"taken_into_service""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-10-09T18:35:00.000Z-Stephen_Hui-2021-10-09T17:35:00.000Z"></span>I've copied this to the talk page and responded there iaw <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">WP:BRD</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2021-10-09T18:35:00.000Z-Stephen_Hui-2021-10-09T17:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:35, 9 October 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-10-09T18:35:00.000Z-Stephen_Hui-2021-10-09T17:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-10-09T18:35:00.000Z-Stephen_Hui-2021-10-09T17:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Discussion_at_Frisians" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion_at_Frisians-2021-11-01T13:06:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion_at_Frisians-2021-11-01T13:06:00.000Z"></span>Discussion at Frisians<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion_at_Frisians-2021-11-01T13:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=62" title="Edit section: Discussion at Frisians"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alssa1-2021-11-01T13:06:00.000Z-Discussion_at_Frisians"></span>With respect, I don't know that there is a "discussion about this at the talk page", so I would appreciate you don't make that assumption. There was a discussion at the <a href="/wiki/Talk:English_people" title="Talk:English people">English talkpage</a>, but given the fact that it has been quiet for well over 2months, I would assume it's concluded and not on the side that you advocated. <a href="/wiki/User:Alssa1" title="User:Alssa1">Alssa1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alssa1" title="User talk:Alssa1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Alssa1-2021-11-01T13:06:00.000Z-Discussion_at_Frisians" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:06, 1 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alssa1-2021-11-01T13:06:00.000Z-Discussion_at_Frisians"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alssa1-2021-11-01T13:06:00.000Z-Discussion_at_Frisians"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-11-01T13:36:00.000Z-Alssa1-2021-11-01T13:06:00.000Z"></span>I've responded on the relevant talk pages. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2021-11-01T13:36:00.000Z-Alssa1-2021-11-01T13:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:36, 1 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-11-01T13:36:00.000Z-Alssa1-2021-11-01T13:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-11-01T13:36:00.000Z-Alssa1-2021-11-01T13:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="In_other_languages" data-mw-thread-id="h-In_other_languages-2021-11-02T23:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-In_other_languages-2021-11-02T23:40:00.000Z"></span>In other languages<span data-mw-comment-end="h-In_other_languages-2021-11-02T23:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=63" title="Edit section: In other languages"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peter_Horn-2021-11-02T23:40:00.000Z-In_other_languages"></span>The "in other languages" for <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/pfannenwagen" class="extiw" title="de:pfannenwagen">de:pfannenwagen</a> still throws me to <a href="/wiki/Tank_car" title="Tank car">tank car</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Peter_Horn" title="User:Peter Horn">Peter Horn</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Peter_Horn" title="User talk:Peter Horn">User talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Peter_Horn-2021-11-02T23:40:00.000Z-In_other_languages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:40, 2 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Peter_Horn-2021-11-02T23:40:00.000Z-In_other_languages"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Peter_Horn-2021-11-02T23:40:00.000Z-In_other_languages"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-11-03T09:10:00.000Z-Peter_Horn-2021-11-02T23:40:00.000Z"></span>I've changed it to point to <a href="/wiki/Ladle_transfer_car" title="Ladle transfer car">ladle transfer car</a>, but I can see the problem is that the German article also includes torpedo wagon as a sub-section, so they may change it back. Often, different wikis are at different stages of development, so there isn't always a one-to-one match. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2021-11-03T09:10:00.000Z-Peter_Horn-2021-11-02T23:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:10, 3 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-11-03T09:10:00.000Z-Peter_Horn-2021-11-02T23:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-11-03T09:10:00.000Z-Peter_Horn-2021-11-02T23:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Trictrac" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Trictrac-2021-11-20T12:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Trictrac-2021-11-20T12:02:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Trictrac<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Trictrac-2021-11-20T12:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=64" title="Edit section: DYK for Trictrac"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cwmhiraeth-2021-11-20T12:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Trictrac"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2021/November#20_November_2021" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/November">20 November 2021</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Trictrac" title="Trictrac">Trictrac</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that <b><a href="/wiki/Trictrac" title="Trictrac">Trictrac</a></b> </i>(board pictured)<i> was the classic <a href="/wiki/Tables_game" title="Tables game">tables game</a> of France, just as <a href="/wiki/Backgammon" title="Backgammon">backgammon</a> is of the English-speaking world today?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Trictrac" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Trictrac">Template:Did you know nominations/Trictrac</a>. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2021-11-10&end=2021-11-30&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Trictrac">Trictrac</a>)</small>, and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a>. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Cwmhiraeth" title="User:Cwmhiraeth">Cwmhiraeth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cwmhiraeth" title="User talk:Cwmhiraeth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Cwmhiraeth-2021-11-20T12:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Trictrac" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:02, 20 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cwmhiraeth-2021-11-20T12:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Trictrac"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cwmhiraeth-2021-11-20T12:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Trictrac"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Jacquet_(game)" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Jacquet_(game)-2021-11-22T00:02:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_for_Jacquet_.28game.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Jacquet_(game)-2021-11-22T00:02:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Jacquet (game)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Jacquet_(game)-2021-11-22T00:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=65" title="Edit section: DYK for Jacquet (game)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cwmhiraeth-2021-11-22T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Jacquet_(game)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2021/November#22_November_2021" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/November">22 November 2021</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Jacquet_(game)" title="Jacquet (game)">Jacquet (game)</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that the classic <a href="/wiki/Board_game" title="Board game">board game</a> <b><a href="/wiki/Jacquet_(game)" title="Jacquet (game)">Jacquet</a></b> was the benchmark for all <a href="/wiki/Tables_game" title="Tables game">tables games</a> in France during the 19th century?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Jacquet_(game)" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Jacquet (game)">Template:Did you know nominations/Jacquet (game)</a>. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2021-11-12&end=2021-12-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Jacquet_(game)">Jacquet (game)</a>)</small>, and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a>. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Cwmhiraeth" title="User:Cwmhiraeth">Cwmhiraeth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cwmhiraeth" title="User talk:Cwmhiraeth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Cwmhiraeth-2021-11-22T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Jacquet_(game)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:02, 22 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cwmhiraeth-2021-11-22T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Jacquet_(game)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cwmhiraeth-2021-11-22T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Jacquet_(game)"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Irish_(game)" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Irish_(game)-2021-12-11T13:19:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_for_Irish_.28game.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Irish_(game)-2021-12-11T13:19:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Irish (game)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Irish_(game)-2021-12-11T13:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=66" title="Edit section: DYK for Irish (game)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amakuru-2021-12-11T13:19:00.000Z-DYK_for_Irish_(game)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2021/December#11_December_2021" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/December">11 December 2021</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Irish_(game)" title="Irish (game)">Irish (game)</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that <a href="/wiki/Backgammon" title="Backgammon">backgammon</a> was derived from the esteemed 16th-century Scottish and English <a href="/wiki/Tables_game" title="Tables game">tables game</a> of <b><a href="/wiki/Irish_(game)" title="Irish (game)">Irish</a></b> and eventually surpassed it in popularity?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Irish_(game)" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Irish (game)">Template:Did you know nominations/Irish (game)</a>. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2021-12-01&end=2021-12-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Irish_(game)">Irish (game)</a>)</small>, and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a>. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div><p> — <a href="/wiki/User:Amakuru" title="User:Amakuru">Amakuru</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amakuru" title="User talk:Amakuru">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Amakuru-2021-12-11T13:19:00.000Z-DYK_for_Irish_(game)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:19, 11 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amakuru-2021-12-11T13:19:00.000Z-DYK_for_Irish_(game)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amakuru-2021-12-11T13:19:00.000Z-DYK_for_Irish_(game)"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Revert_of_Altes_Schloss_(Bad_Berneck)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Revert_of_Altes_Schloss_(Bad_Berneck)-2021-12-17T00:55:00.000Z"><span id="Revert_of_Altes_Schloss_.28Bad_Berneck.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Revert_of_Altes_Schloss_(Bad_Berneck)-2021-12-17T00:55:00.000Z"></span>Revert of Altes Schloss (Bad Berneck)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Revert_of_Altes_Schloss_(Bad_Berneck)-2021-12-17T00:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=67" title="Edit section: Revert of Altes Schloss (Bad Berneck)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Truthanado-2021-12-17T00:55:00.000Z-Revert_of_Altes_Schloss_(Bad_Berneck)"></span>I understand why you reverted my recent edits to <a href="/wiki/Altes_Schloss_(Bad_Berneck)" title="Altes Schloss (Bad Berneck)">Altes Schloss (Bad Berneck)</a>, citing <a href="/wiki/H:MARKUP" class="mw-redirect" title="H:MARKUP">H:MARKUP</a>. However, Wikipedia has been using unspaced headings (example: ==Heading2==) for years, and many articles contain headings using the non-spaced formats. Further, such non-spaced heading formats are used as examples in <a href="/wiki/MOS:HEADINGS" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:HEADINGS">MOS:HEADINGS</a>, where spaces are described as being <i>optional</i>. Using <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOLD">WP:BOLD</a>, I have added text to <a href="/wiki/H:MARKUP" class="mw-redirect" title="H:MARKUP">H:MARKUP</a> below the Markup / Renders as box as follows: </p> <dl><dd>"Heading formats may contain spaces (as shown in the example above) or not. The key point is that they should be consistent throughout an article, all headings should contain a single space to the left and right of the "=" sign(s) or no spaces, the formats should not be intermingled in the same article. See further examples in <a href="/wiki/MOS:HEADINGS" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:HEADINGS">MOS:HEADINGS</a>."</dd></dl> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Truthanado" title="User:Truthanado">Truthanado</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Truthanado" title="User talk:Truthanado">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Truthanado-2021-12-17T00:55:00.000Z-Revert_of_Altes_Schloss_(Bad_Berneck)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:55, 17 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Truthanado-2021-12-17T00:55:00.000Z-Revert_of_Altes_Schloss_(Bad_Berneck)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Truthanado-2021-12-17T00:55:00.000Z-Revert_of_Altes_Schloss_(Bad_Berneck)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-12-17T09:39:00.000Z-Truthanado-2021-12-17T00:55:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Truthanado" title="User:Truthanado">Truthanado</a>:</span> I'm aware that both spaced and unspaced are acceptable provided they are consistent within the article. Personally, I find spaced headings easier to read, but given that the choice is left to editors, it would make sense to stay with the format of the original editor as we do with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ENGVAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ENGVAR">WP:ENGVAR</a> to avoid edit conflict. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2021-12-17T09:39:00.000Z-Truthanado-2021-12-17T00:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:39, 17 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-12-17T09:39:00.000Z-Truthanado-2021-12-17T00:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-12-17T09:39:00.000Z-Truthanado-2021-12-17T00:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Truthanado-2021-12-18T12:53:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-12-17T09:39:00.000Z"></span>I agree wholeheartedly with you. Consistency within an article is desirable. I'm not suggesting that editors go on a campaign to check all articles, but if other edits are being made in the article, why not make sure other things (like heading formats) in the article are consistent. Editors already do that for dmy or mdy date formats. FYI, <a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64">User:Redrose64</a> has reverted my edits to <a href="/wiki/H:MARKUP" class="mw-redirect" title="H:MARKUP">H:MARKUP</a>. feel free to comment if you wish. <a href="/wiki/User:Truthanado" title="User:Truthanado">Truthanado</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Truthanado" title="User talk:Truthanado">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Truthanado-2021-12-18T12:53:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-12-17T09:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:53, 18 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Truthanado-2021-12-18T12:53:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-12-17T09:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Truthanado-2021-12-18T12:53:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-12-17T09:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Ticktack" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Ticktack-2021-12-17T12:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Ticktack-2021-12-17T12:03:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Ticktack<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Ticktack-2021-12-17T12:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=68" title="Edit section: DYK for Ticktack"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amakuru-2021-12-17T12:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Ticktack"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2021/December#17_December_2021" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/December">17 December 2021</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Ticktack" title="Ticktack">Ticktack</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that the mediaeval English <a href="/wiki/Tables_game" title="Tables game">tables game</a> of <b><a href="/wiki/Ticktack" title="Ticktack">Ticktack</a></b> has several ways of winning, including </i>Toots<i> and </i>Rovers<i>?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Ticktack" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Ticktack">Template:Did you know nominations/Ticktack</a>. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2021-12-07&end=2021-12-27&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ticktack">Ticktack</a>)</small>, and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a>. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div><p> — <a href="/wiki/User:Amakuru" title="User:Amakuru">Amakuru</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amakuru" title="User talk:Amakuru">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Amakuru-2021-12-17T12:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Ticktack" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:03, 17 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amakuru-2021-12-17T12:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Ticktack"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amakuru-2021-12-17T12:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Ticktack"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Ludus_Anglicorum" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Ludus_Anglicorum-2021-12-18T12:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Ludus_Anglicorum-2021-12-18T12:02:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Ludus Anglicorum<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Ludus_Anglicorum-2021-12-18T12:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=69" title="Edit section: DYK for Ludus Anglicorum"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cwmhiraeth-2021-12-18T12:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Ludus_Anglicorum"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2021/December#18_December_2021" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/December">18 December 2021</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Ludus_Anglicorum" title="Ludus Anglicorum">Ludus Anglicorum</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that the "English Game", <b><a href="/wiki/Ludus_Anglicorum" title="Ludus Anglicorum">Ludus Anglicorum</a></b>, was the most popular <a href="/wiki/Tables_game" title="Tables game">tables game</a> in the <a href="/wiki/Middle_Ages" title="Middle Ages">mediaeval</a> England of <a href="/wiki/Geoffrey_Chaucer" title="Geoffrey Chaucer">Chaucer</a>'s time?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Ludus_Anglicorum" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Ludus Anglicorum">Template:Did you know nominations/Ludus Anglicorum</a>. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2021-12-08&end=2021-12-28&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ludus_Anglicorum">Ludus Anglicorum</a>)</small>, and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a>. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Cwmhiraeth" title="User:Cwmhiraeth">Cwmhiraeth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cwmhiraeth" title="User talk:Cwmhiraeth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Cwmhiraeth-2021-12-18T12:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Ludus_Anglicorum" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:02, 18 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cwmhiraeth-2021-12-18T12:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Ludus_Anglicorum"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cwmhiraeth-2021-12-18T12:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Ludus_Anglicorum"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Doublets_(tables_game)" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Doublets_(tables_game)-2021-12-19T00:03:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_for_Doublets_.28tables_game.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Doublets_(tables_game)-2021-12-19T00:03:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Doublets (tables game)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Doublets_(tables_game)-2021-12-19T00:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=70" title="Edit section: DYK for Doublets (tables game)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amakuru-2021-12-19T00:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Doublets_(tables_game)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2021/December#19_December_2021" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/December">19 December 2021</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Doublets_(tables_game)" title="Doublets (tables game)">Doublets (tables game)</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that the historical English <a href="/wiki/Tables_game" title="Tables game">tables game</a> of <b><a href="/wiki/Doublets_(tables_game)" title="Doublets (tables game)">Doublets</a></b> was mentioned in 1549 in a sermon by <a href="/wiki/Hugh_Latimer" title="Hugh Latimer">Latimer</a> to King <a href="/wiki/Edward_VI" title="Edward VI">Edward VI</a>?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Doublets_(tables_game)" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Doublets (tables game)">Template:Did you know nominations/Doublets (tables game)</a>. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2021-12-09&end=2021-12-29&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Doublets_(tables_game)">Doublets (tables game)</a>)</small>, and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a>. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div><p> — <a href="/wiki/User:Amakuru" title="User:Amakuru">Amakuru</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amakuru" title="User talk:Amakuru">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Amakuru-2021-12-19T00:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Doublets_(tables_game)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:03, 19 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amakuru-2021-12-19T00:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Doublets_(tables_game)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amakuru-2021-12-19T00:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Doublets_(tables_game)"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lower_case_names" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lower_case_names-2021-12-20T06:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lower_case_names-2021-12-20T06:53:00.000Z"></span>Lower case names<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lower_case_names-2021-12-20T06:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=71" title="Edit section: Lower case names"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lexicon-2021-12-20T06:53:00.000Z-Lower_case_names"></span>Hi Bermicourt. In general, Wikipedia avoids unnecessary capitalization, which is used almost exclusively for proper nouns, acronyms/initialisms, and to begin sentences. The capitalization section of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Capital_letters#Sports,_games,_and_other_activities" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Capital letters">MoS</a> states that the names of games are not capitalized. While the MoS is a guideline, I believe it's in agreement with common English usage not just in North America, but in general. I also don't believe that use in specialized literature is necessarily relevant to the issue. I further don't see how capitalization of a game name would aid in clarity and avoid confusion; if anything, it's likely to cause confusion because capitals are understood to mean proper nouns. </p><p>You've noted that the names of common games like <a href="/wiki/Chess" title="Chess">chess</a> and <a href="/wiki/Backgammon" title="Backgammon">backgammon</a> are usually not capitalized, and you will find that they're not capitalized in those articles. However, the popularity of a game is no basis for a policy on whether or not its name should be capitalized. Would we need to be constantly evaluating the popularity of games and moving them from one list to the other as it waxes and wanes? The simple and elegant solution is capitalization in accordance with standard English practice. </p><p>I won't get into a revert war with you over this, but I'd ask that you consider the issue of whether usage in gaming literature should trump common English capitalization rules, the Wikipedia MoS, and the goal of a simple and consistent policy. Exceptions for specialized fields should not be made unless there's a very compelling argument for them. I don't think we have one here. <a href="/wiki/User:Lexicon" title="User:Lexicon">Lexicon</a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lexicon" title="User talk:Lexicon">(talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Lexicon-2021-12-20T06:53:00.000Z-Lower_case_names" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:53, 20 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lexicon-2021-12-20T06:53:00.000Z-Lower_case_names"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lexicon-2021-12-20T06:53:00.000Z-Lower_case_names"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lexicon-2021-12-20T14:38:00.000Z-Lexicon-2021-12-20T06:53:00.000Z"></span>I had never in my life heard of a particular North American tendency to follow the normal accepted use of capitalization as opposed to a lax British one, and I'm not sure such a thing is actually real. Nor do I suspect that there's anything at all behind your ascribing American imperialist intentions to the writers of the MoS. As for the number of sources using certain spellings, I'm sure you can appreciate that when you're talking about games so obscure that you've only now added them to Wikipedia, the sources are of a specialized nature the use in which is possibly not indicative of the way an average English speaker would use those terms. Specialized literature of all types tends to do things like emphasize its terminology with capitals against common use, which an average speaker would not do. Additionally, many of your sources for these games are also kind of ancient, no doubt employing deprecated pre-20th century language conventions. Both of these (but especially the first), I think, are sound arguments against taking the conventions of the table games community regarding capitalization and applying them to this specific segment of Wikipedia against standard English conventions for capitalization. <a href="/wiki/User:Lexicon" title="User:Lexicon">Lexicon</a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lexicon" title="User talk:Lexicon">(talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Lexicon-2021-12-20T14:38:00.000Z-Lexicon-2021-12-20T06:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:38, 20 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lexicon-2021-12-20T14:38:00.000Z-Lexicon-2021-12-20T06:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lexicon-2021-12-20T14:38:00.000Z-Lexicon-2021-12-20T06:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lexicon-2021-12-20T16:03:00.000Z-Lexicon-2021-12-20T14:38:00.000Z"></span>I'm not advocating for "the average English reader's level of knowledge", though. I'm advocating for common English practice. I don't see this as an informal vs. formal issue. It's instead a specialized vs. common issue. I wouldn't call capitalizing industry terms "formal", and using <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> when the only easily identifiable written sources (because of obscurity) are specialized publications might follow the letter of the law while breaking its spirit. And again, I argue that capitalizing in this one corner of Wikipedia would cause more confusion than it prevents (even though I think both are pretty negligible), even if in the specialized gaming literature it might arguably enhance clarity. Also, you must realize that saying "let's stop here" after you've made your point—instead of in place of making it—is just a wee bit rich. <a href="/wiki/User:Lexicon" title="User:Lexicon">Lexicon</a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lexicon" title="User talk:Lexicon">(talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Lexicon-2021-12-20T16:03:00.000Z-Lexicon-2021-12-20T14:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:03, 20 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lexicon-2021-12-20T16:03:00.000Z-Lexicon-2021-12-20T14:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lexicon-2021-12-20T16:03:00.000Z-Lexicon-2021-12-20T14:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lexicon-2021-12-20T22:02:00.000Z-Lexicon-2021-12-20T16:03:00.000Z"></span>I don't believe this discussion was fruitless at all. I heard your reasoning, and you heard mine. I also hoped that it was not a case of "neither of us is going to convince the other", as I go into these things with an open mind, able to be swayed by salient arguments. It's unfortunate if you don't do the same. Personally I think my argument should have been enough to sway you, as I do believe it is a good one, and I think that if you'd take a step back from the issue and try to see it as something other than a conflict with someone ruining your good work with their lowly common Americanisms (I'm a Canadian and a Brit, btw, although that's neither here nor there), you might be able to be convinced. Either way, I don't think my being an admin plays (or should play) into the appropriate resolution of this matter at all. I'm open to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:3O" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:3O">WP:3O</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRN">WP:DRN</a> to start, if you feel my position as an administrator is unfairly affecting the outcome. <a href="/wiki/User:Lexicon" title="User:Lexicon">Lexicon</a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lexicon" title="User talk:Lexicon">(talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Lexicon-2021-12-20T22:02:00.000Z-Lexicon-2021-12-20T16:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:02, 20 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lexicon-2021-12-20T22:02:00.000Z-Lexicon-2021-12-20T16:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lexicon-2021-12-20T22:02:00.000Z-Lexicon-2021-12-20T16:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Opole:_relevance" data-mw-thread-id="h-Opole:_relevance-2022-01-01T19:06:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Opole:_relevance-2022-01-01T19:06:00.000Z"></span>Opole: relevance<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Opole:_relevance-2022-01-01T19:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=72" title="Edit section: Opole: relevance"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-217.80.39.5-2022-01-01T19:06:00.000Z-Opole:_relevance"></span>Hi Bermicourt I see you have just undone my deleted section on "Opole". Can we discuss this please? I am on the committee of the Rundlingsverein e V.,have lived for 16 years in a rundling village, and am probably the only native english speaking expert on Rundling villages. Most of the article is mine. I am in regular personal contact with Professor Wolfgang Meibeyer, who is without argument the greatest living expert on Rundlinge. </p><p>There is an academic debate that has been going on since the days of Anneliese Krenzlin and Willi Schulz about the origins of the Rundling form. One by now widely discredited argument is that Rundlinge, because their original occupiers were indeed Slavic farmers, came in some way from the Slavic tribes further East (Poles, Czechs, Russians, etc). No evidence whatsoever has been cited to show any such link. </p><p>Wolfgang Meibeyer's argument has always been that the half-moon shape was created by Germanic overlords for their Slavic farmers, who cleared the forests in the 12th/13th century following the Wendenkreuzzug of 1147. This is pictured in the Sachsenspiegel, a near contemporary account of the "Ostkolonisation ". There is no known connection to the Opole of Poland. Of course circular villages have existed the world over, and The University of Cottbus' Institute of Heritage Management has catalogised them all very recently. However to put in an article on German Rundlinge, a prominent link to Opole is factually false, and can only come from a lay view. Sadly antique2020 who wrote this addition falls into this category. It is deeply misleading to have this unedited under "Rundlinge". cheers. Adrian Greenwood. agwendland </p><p>adrian.greenwood@t-online.de <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/217.80.39.5" title="Special:Contributions/217.80.39.5">217.80.39.5</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:217.80.39.5&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:217.80.39.5 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-217.80.39.5-2022-01-01T19:06:00.000Z-Opole:_relevance" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:06, 1 January 2022 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-217.80.39.5-2022-01-01T19:06:00.000Z-Opole:_relevance"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-217.80.39.5-2022-01-01T19:06:00.000Z-Opole:_relevance"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Translation_request_3" data-mw-thread-id="h-Translation_request_3-2022-01-08T01:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Translation_request_3-2022-01-08T01:02:00.000Z"></span>Translation request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Translation_request_3-2022-01-08T01:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=73" title="Edit section: Translation request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sunnya343-2022-01-08T01:02:00.000Z-Translation_request_3"></span>Hello Bermicourt! I was wondering if you would like to translate a paragraph for me from German to English. (I found your name <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Translators_available#German-to-English">here</a>.) I use Google Translate to obtain basic facts from articles written in foreign languages; however, I do not trust it to translate complex information well. Here is the paragraph, which is in <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bzbasel.ch/basel/basel-stadt/der-euro-aiport-sagt-aadje-swiss-willkommen-skywork-ld.1696348">this article</a>: </p><p>"Zwischen Ende 1998 und 2000 flog Swissair die einzige Langstrecke ab Basel: New York/Newark. Doch die für die Basler Pharma gedachte tägliche Verbindung war im Prinzip nur eine Reaktion auf ein Projekt eines potenziellen Konkurrenten, der eine Full-Businessclass-Boeing auf dieser Strecke einsetzen wollte. Die Strecke wurde aber nur halbherzig beworben. Auf dem Swissair-Werbeflyer für Passagiere aus den USA wurde das Angebot nach Basel schlicht nicht erwähnt." </p><p>Please let me know if you would be available to do this. Thank you, — <span style="font-family:Calibri;"><a href="/wiki/User:Sunnya343" title="User:Sunnya343"><i>Sunnya343✈</i></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sunnya343" title="User talk:Sunnya343">háblame</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sunnya343" title="Special:Contributions/Sunnya343">my work</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Sunnya343-2022-01-08T01:02:00.000Z-Translation_request_3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:02, 8 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sunnya343-2022-01-08T01:02:00.000Z-Translation_request_3"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sunnya343-2022-01-08T01:02:00.000Z-Translation_request_3"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2022-01-08T09:46:00.000Z-Sunnya343-2022-01-08T01:02:00.000Z"></span>Done - on your talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2022-01-08T09:46:00.000Z-Sunnya343-2022-01-08T01:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:46, 8 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2022-01-08T09:46:00.000Z-Sunnya343-2022-01-08T01:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2022-01-08T09:46:00.000Z-Sunnya343-2022-01-08T01:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="in_friendship" data-mw-thread-id="h-in_friendship-2022-01-09T11:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-in_friendship-2022-01-09T11:57:00.000Z"></span>in friendship<span data-mw-comment-end="h-in_friendship-2022-01-09T11:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=74" title="Edit section: in friendship"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-01-09T11:57:00.000Z-in_friendship"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1257001546"><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);; border-radius:0.5em;"><caption class="infobox-title"><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Places_and_songs_2022#24_Jan" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2022">January songs</a></caption><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Forest_in_snow,_Engenhahn.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/Forest_in_snow%2C_Engenhahn.jpg/180px-Forest_in_snow%2C_Engenhahn.jpg" decoding="async" width="180" height="135" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/Forest_in_snow%2C_Engenhahn.jpg/270px-Forest_in_snow%2C_Engenhahn.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/Forest_in_snow%2C_Engenhahn.jpg/360px-Forest_in_snow%2C_Engenhahn.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4000" data-file-height="3000"/></a></span></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#2022_·_in_friendship" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">in friendship</a></th></tr></tbody></table> <p>Thank you for being around! - <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Images_2022" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2022">Happy new year, in friendship</a>! - Today I show yesterday's snow and <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1064624973">today's music, Schon gewusst?</a> in memory of Jerome Kohl, a friend --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-01-09T11:57:00.000Z-in_friendship" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:57, 9 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-01-09T11:57:00.000Z-in_friendship"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-01-09T11:57:00.000Z-in_friendship"></span> </p> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-02-07T17:38:00.000Z-in_friendship"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1257001546"><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);; border-radius:0.5em;"><caption class="infobox-title"><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Places_and_songs_2022#25_Feb" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2022">February songs</a></caption><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Creek_frozen.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Creek_frozen.jpg/180px-Creek_frozen.jpg" decoding="async" width="180" height="135" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Creek_frozen.jpg/270px-Creek_frozen.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Creek_frozen.jpg/360px-Creek_frozen.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4000" data-file-height="3000"/></a></span></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#RexxS" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">frozen</a></th></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Main_Page_history/2022_February_7" title="Wikipedia:Main Page history/2022 February 7">my joy</a> - more <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1070459492">on my talk</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-02-07T17:38:00.000Z-in_friendship" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:38, 7 February 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-02-07T17:38:00.000Z-in_friendship"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-02-07T17:38:00.000Z-in_friendship"></span> </p><p><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1071802461"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-02-14T17:51:00.000Z-in_friendship"></span>Valentine's Day edition</a>, with spring flowers and plenty of music --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-02-14T17:51:00.000Z-in_friendship" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:51, 14 February 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-02-14T17:51:00.000Z-in_friendship"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-02-14T17:51:00.000Z-in_friendship"></span> </p><p><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1074005793"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-02-25T22:17:00.000Z-in_friendship"></span>stand and sing</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-02-25T22:17:00.000Z-in_friendship" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:17, 25 February 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-02-25T22:17:00.000Z-in_friendship"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-02-25T22:17:00.000Z-in_friendship"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-03-06T10:40:00.000Z-in_friendship"></span>I took the pic in 2009. It was <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1075521687">on the German MP</a> yesterday, with the song from 1885, in English <a href="/wiki/Prayer_for_Ukraine" title="Prayer for Ukraine">Prayer for Ukraine</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-03-06T10:40:00.000Z-in_friendship" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:40, 6 March 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-03-06T10:40:00.000Z-in_friendship"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-03-06T10:40:00.000Z-in_friendship"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Kamienna_Góra" data-mw-thread-id="h-Kamienna_Góra-2022-01-31T19:41:00.000Z"><span id="Kamienna_G.C3.B3ra"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Kamienna_Góra-2022-01-31T19:41:00.000Z"></span>Kamienna Góra<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Kamienna_Góra-2022-01-31T19:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=75" title="Edit section: Kamienna Góra"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-E-960-2022-01-31T19:41:00.000Z-Kamienna_Góra"></span>Bermicourt, what are you doing? I'm not sure you understand the what <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD,_revert,_discuss_cycle" title="Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle">Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle</a> entails. This is the edit <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kamienna_G%C3%B3ra&type=revision&diff=1067403351&oldid=1057412151">[8]</a> where user Tino Cannst added new information, while at the same time removing an old long standing statement. I reverted that, so why are you restoring it? Also, I started a talk page discussion <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AKamienna_G%C3%B3ra&type=revision&diff=1069094344&oldid=352311056">[9]</a> because this new item added by Tino Cannst is a minor fact and creates a bit of an imbalance, yet you did not even bother to comment on it, you just restored the new text that was added. Please follow Wikipedia rules instead of restoring NEW text which is disputed. New text can be reverted and it's up to the user to convince others for it's inclusion not the other way around. --<a href="/wiki/User:E-960" title="User:E-960">E-960</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:E-960" title="User talk:E-960">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-E-960-2022-01-31T19:41:00.000Z-Kamienna_Góra" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:41, 31 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-E-960-2022-01-31T19:41:00.000Z-Kamienna_Góra"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-E-960-2022-01-31T19:41:00.000Z-Kamienna_Góra"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Always_precious" data-mw-thread-id="h-Always_precious-2022-03-10T07:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Always_precious-2022-03-10T07:51:00.000Z"></span>Always precious<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Always_precious-2022-03-10T07:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=76" title="Edit section: Always precious"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-03-10T07:51:00.000Z-Always_precious"></span><figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Yogo2783_Close_crop.JPG" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Yogo2783_Close_crop.JPG/110px-Yogo2783_Close_crop.JPG" decoding="async" width="110" height="110" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Yogo2783_Close_crop.JPG/165px-Yogo2783_Close_crop.JPG 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Yogo2783_Close_crop.JPG/220px-Yogo2783_Close_crop.JPG 2x" data-file-width="1000" data-file-height="1000"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Ten years ago, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Quality_Article_Improvement/Precious#Bermicourt" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Precious">you</a> were found precious. That's what you are, always. I cherish working with you! --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-03-10T07:51:00.000Z-Always_precious" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:51, 10 March 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-03-10T07:51:00.000Z-Always_precious"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-03-10T07:51:00.000Z-Always_precious"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2022-03-10T08:53:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2022-03-10T07:51:00.000Z"></span>You are precious too - bless you. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2022-03-10T08:53:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2022-03-10T07:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:53, 10 March 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2022-03-10T08:53:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2022-03-10T07:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2022-03-10T08:53:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2022-03-10T07:51:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-03-10T20:04:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2022-03-10T08:53:00.000Z"></span>Thank you, - and yes, 3 people said so ;) - Listening to the charity concert <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1076348542">mentioned here</a>. I created the articles of the composer and the soprano. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-03-10T20:04:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2022-03-10T08:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:04, 10 March 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-03-10T20:04:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2022-03-10T08:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-03-10T20:04:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2022-03-10T08:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Solitaire_articles_and_WP:RS" data-mw-thread-id="h-Solitaire_articles_and_WP:RS-2022-03-25T09:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Solitaire_articles_and_WP:RS-2022-03-25T09:22:00.000Z"></span>Solitaire articles and WP:RS<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Solitaire_articles_and_WP:RS-2022-03-25T09:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=77" title="Edit section: Solitaire articles and WP:RS"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gregorytopov-2022-03-25T09:22:00.000Z-Solitaire_articles_and_WP:RS"></span>Thanks for all the work you've been doing on improving the solitaire articles. And thank you also for jumping in the discussion on my Talk page with your comments. </p><p>What other editors popping in might not realize is that many of the articles in question have had zero citations for over ten years or more. So the kinds of references we've been supplying improves things, being from reliable contributors, even if the site they're hosted on is not ideal. I appreciate the case you made about seeing them as arguably interim in nature, even if they don't quite tick all the WP:RS boxes. Removing them entirely will arguably only result in some instances where Wikipedia articles on solitaire games are absent of references for another next ten years, even though these are subjects that clearly deserve to be covered in Wikipedia. </p><p>Part of the problem is that it's a specialty area of study with few contributors, so over-vigilance and over-policing based on a cursory visit to those pages or the sources in question isn't helpful. And in some instances it wasn't just the citation that was removed, but also other content changes, resulting in an overall regress of quality. But let's keep plugging away, and hopefully our efforts will lead to improvements in the long run. Thanks again for your contributions, involvement, and engagement. <a href="/wiki/User:Gregorytopov" title="User:Gregorytopov">Gregorytopov</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gregorytopov" title="User talk:Gregorytopov">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Gregorytopov-2022-03-25T09:22:00.000Z-Solitaire_articles_and_WP:RS" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:22, 25 March 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gregorytopov-2022-03-25T09:22:00.000Z-Solitaire_articles_and_WP:RS"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gregorytopov-2022-03-25T09:22:00.000Z-Solitaire_articles_and_WP:RS"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:Nazi_personnel_who_resisted_the_Holocaust" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Nazi_personnel_who_resisted_the_Holocaust-2022-04-01T14:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Nazi_personnel_who_resisted_the_Holocaust-2022-04-01T14:44:00.000Z"></span>Category:Nazi personnel who resisted the Holocaust<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Nazi_personnel_who_resisted_the_Holocaust-2022-04-01T14:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=78" title="Edit section: Category:Nazi personnel who resisted the Holocaust"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HopsonRoad-2022-04-01T14:44:00.000Z-Category:Nazi_personnel_who_resisted_the_Holocaust"></span>You may be interested in the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Category_talk:Nazi_personnel_who_resisted_the_Holocaust#Correct_title?" class="mw-redirect" title="Category talk:Nazi personnel who resisted the Holocaust">Category talk:Nazi personnel who resisted the Holocaust#Correct title?</a>. Sincerely, <a href="/wiki/User:HopsonRoad" title="User:HopsonRoad">HopsonRoad</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HopsonRoad" title="User talk:HopsonRoad">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-HopsonRoad-2022-04-01T14:44:00.000Z-Category:Nazi_personnel_who_resisted_the_Holocaust" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:44, 1 April 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HopsonRoad-2022-04-01T14:44:00.000Z-Category:Nazi_personnel_who_resisted_the_Holocaust"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HopsonRoad-2022-04-01T14:44:00.000Z-Category:Nazi_personnel_who_resisted_the_Holocaust"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Rosamund's_Bower" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Rosamund's_Bower-2022-04-14T00:02:00.000Z"><span id="DYK_for_Rosamund.27s_Bower"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Rosamund's_Bower-2022-04-14T00:02:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Rosamund's Bower<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Rosamund's_Bower-2022-04-14T00:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=79" title="Edit section: DYK for Rosamund's Bower"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maile66-2022-04-14T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Rosamund's_Bower"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2022/April#14_April_2022" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/April">14 April 2022</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Rosamund%27s_Bower" title="Rosamund's Bower">Rosamund's Bower</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that in <b><a href="/wiki/Rosamund%27s_Bower" title="Rosamund's Bower">Rosamund's Bower</a></b> </i>(setup pictured)<i>, the aim is to reunite <a href="/wiki/Rosamund_Clifford" title="Rosamund Clifford">Fair Rosamund</a> with <a href="/wiki/Henry_II_of_England" title="Henry II of England">King Henry</a>?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Rosamund%27s_Bower" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Rosamund's Bower">Template:Did you know nominations/Rosamund's Bower</a>. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2022-04-04&end=2022-04-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Rosamund%27s_Bower">Rosamund's Bower</a>)</small>, and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a>. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Maile66" title="User:Maile66">— Maile </a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maile66" title="User talk:Maile66">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Maile66-2022-04-14T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Rosamund's_Bower" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:02, 14 April 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maile66-2022-04-14T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Rosamund's_Bower"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maile66-2022-04-14T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Rosamund's_Bower"></span> </p><table style="border: 4px outset gray; background: linear-gradient(135deg, #d0e3b5, #b0dab9 67%);"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:top;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Theleekycauldron-2022-04-15T02:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Rosamund's_Bower"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="61" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/45px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: bottom; height: 1.1em;"><b>Hook update</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;">Your hook reached 10,807 views (900.6 per hour), making it one of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics/Monthly_DYK_pageview_leaders/2022/April" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics/Monthly DYK pageview leaders/2022/April">most viewed hooks of April 2022</a> – nice work! </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Theleekycauldron" title="User:Theleekycauldron">theleekycauldron</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Theleekycauldron" title="User talk:Theleekycauldron">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Theleekycauldron" title="Special:Contributions/Theleekycauldron">contribs</a>) (she/<a href="/wiki/Singular_they" title="Singular they">they</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Theleekycauldron-2022-04-15T02:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Rosamund's_Bower" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:03, 15 April 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Theleekycauldron-2022-04-15T02:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Rosamund's_Bower"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Theleekycauldron-2022-04-15T02:03:00.000Z-DYK_for_Rosamund's_Bower"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started" data-mw-thread-id="h-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started-2022-05-16T12:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started-2022-05-16T12:49:00.000Z"></span>I have sent you a note about a page you started<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started-2022-05-16T12:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=80" title="Edit section: I have sent you a note about a page you started"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-North8000-2022-05-16T12:49:00.000Z-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started"></span> Hello, Bermicourt, Thank you for creating <a href="/wiki/Augustusburg_Castle" class="mw-disambig" title="Augustusburg Castle">Augustusburg Castle</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:North8000" title="User:North8000">User:North8000</a>, while examining this page as a part of our <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPP">page curation process</a>, had the following comments: <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1244412712">.mw-parser-output .templatequote{overflow:hidden;margin:1em 0;padding:0 32px}.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{line-height:1.5em;text-align:left;margin-top:0}@media(min-width:500px){.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{padding-left:1.6em}}</style></p><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>Thanks for your work</p></blockquote> <p>To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">{{Re|North8000}}</code>. Please remember to sign your reply with <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">~~~~</code> . <small>(Message delivered via the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Page_Curation/Help" title="Wikipedia:Page Curation/Help">Page Curation</a> tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)</small> <b style="color: #0000cc;"><i>North8000</i></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:North8000#top" title="User talk:North8000">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-North8000-2022-05-16T12:49:00.000Z-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:49, 16 May 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-North8000-2022-05-16T12:49:00.000Z-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-North8000-2022-05-16T12:49:00.000Z-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_German_Tarok" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_German_Tarok-2022-05-20T00:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_German_Tarok-2022-05-20T00:02:00.000Z"></span>DYK for German Tarok<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_German_Tarok-2022-05-20T00:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=81" title="Edit section: DYK for German Tarok"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Casliber-2022-05-20T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_German_Tarok"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2022/May#20_May_2022" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/May">20 May 2022</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/German_Tarok" title="German Tarok">German Tarok</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that it is purportedly hard to find a more interesting <a href="/wiki/Card_game" title="Card game">card game</a> played with <a href="/wiki/German-suited_playing_cards" title="German-suited playing cards">German-suited cards</a> than Sansprendre, a variant of <b><a href="/wiki/German_Tarok" title="German Tarok">German Tarok</a></b>?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/German_Tarok" title="Template:Did you know nominations/German Tarok">Template:Did you know nominations/German Tarok</a>. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2022-05-10&end=2022-05-30&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=German_Tarok">German Tarok</a>)</small>, and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a>. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Casliber" title="User:Casliber">Cas Liber</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Casliber" title="User talk:Casliber">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Casliber" title="Special:Contributions/Casliber">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Casliber-2022-05-20T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_German_Tarok" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:02, 20 May 2022 (UTC)</a> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1257001546"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Casliber-2022-05-20T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_German_Tarok"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Casliber-2022-05-20T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_German_Tarok"></span></p><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);; border-radius:0.5em;"><caption class="infobox-title"><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Places_and_songs_2022#29_May" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2022"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-05-21T06:16:00.000Z-DYK_for_German_Tarok"></span>May songs</a></caption><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Rapsfeld,_Gnadenthal.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Rapsfeld%2C_Gnadenthal.jpg/180px-Rapsfeld%2C_Gnadenthal.jpg" decoding="async" width="180" height="135" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Rapsfeld%2C_Gnadenthal.jpg/270px-Rapsfeld%2C_Gnadenthal.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Rapsfeld%2C_Gnadenthal.jpg/360px-Rapsfeld%2C_Gnadenthal.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4000" data-file-height="3000"/></a></span></td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Thank you for making DYK Germany richer! --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-05-21T06:16:00.000Z-DYK_for_German_Tarok" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:16, 21 May 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-05-21T06:16:00.000Z-DYK_for_German_Tarok"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-2022-05-21T06:16:00.000Z-DYK_for_German_Tarok"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Translation_request_4" data-mw-thread-id="h-Translation_request_4-2022-06-14T08:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Translation_request_4-2022-06-14T08:47:00.000Z"></span>Translation request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Translation_request_4-2022-06-14T08:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=82" title="Edit section: Translation request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Österreichische_Beteiligungs_AG-2022-06-14T08:47:00.000Z-Translation_request_4"></span>Hallo Bermicourt! Wir würden gerne eine Übersetzung von der deutschen Wikipedia Seite "Edith Hlawati" anfordern. Viele Grüße! <a href="/wiki/User:%C3%96sterreichische_Beteiligungs_AG" title="User:Österreichische Beteiligungs AG">Österreichische Beteiligungs AG</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%C3%96sterreichische_Beteiligungs_AG" title="User talk:Österreichische Beteiligungs AG">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Österreichische_Beteiligungs_AG-2022-06-14T08:47:00.000Z-Translation_request_4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:47, 14 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Österreichische_Beteiligungs_AG-2022-06-14T08:47:00.000Z-Translation_request_4"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Österreichische_Beteiligungs_AG-2022-06-14T08:47:00.000Z-Translation_request_4"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2022-06-29T11:02:00.000Z-Österreichische_Beteiligungs_AG-2022-06-14T08:47:00.000Z"></span>Leider ist das nicht mein Themenkreis. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-2022-06-29T11:02:00.000Z-Österreichische_Beteiligungs_AG-2022-06-14T08:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:02, 29 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2022-06-29T11:02:00.000Z-Österreichische_Beteiligungs_AG-2022-06-14T08:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2022-06-29T11:02:00.000Z-Österreichische_Beteiligungs_AG-2022-06-14T08:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Six-Bid_Solo" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Six-Bid_Solo-20220718000200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Six-Bid_Solo-20220718000200"></span>DYK for Six-Bid Solo<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Six-Bid_Solo-20220718000200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=83" title="Edit section: DYK for Six-Bid Solo"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cwmhiraeth-20220718000200-DYK_for_Six-Bid_Solo"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2022/July#18_July_2022" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/July">18 July 2022</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Six-Bid_Solo" class="mw-redirect" title="Six-Bid Solo">Six-Bid Solo</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that the American <a href="/wiki/Card_game" title="Card game">card game</a> of <b><a href="/wiki/Six-Bid_Solo" class="mw-redirect" title="Six-Bid Solo">Six-Bid Solo</a></b> originated in southern Germany?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Six-Bid_Solo" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Six-Bid Solo">Template:Did you know nominations/Six-Bid Solo</a>. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2022-07-08&end=2022-07-28&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Six-Bid_Solo">Six-Bid Solo</a>)</small>, and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a>. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Cwmhiraeth" title="User:Cwmhiraeth">Cwmhiraeth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cwmhiraeth" title="User talk:Cwmhiraeth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Cwmhiraeth-20220718000200-DYK_for_Six-Bid_Solo" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:02, 18 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cwmhiraeth-20220718000200-DYK_for_Six-Bid_Solo"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cwmhiraeth-20220718000200-DYK_for_Six-Bid_Solo"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sources" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sources-20220727214400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sources-20220727214400"></span>Sources<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sources-20220727214400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=84" title="Edit section: Sources"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Phil_wink-20220727214400-Sources"></span>Hi, Bermicourt. A couple of editors have begun a campaign to evaluate sources over at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Board_and_table_games/Sources" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Board and table games/Sources">Wikipedia:WikiProject Board and table games/Sources</a> and its talk. Mostly they're sifting through potential sources for the welter of new games coming out every day, a difficult task that I'm not really interested in. However, I've floated a few online sources for historical games, which were also welcomed. Just mentioning in case you know of additional quality sources that might be worth listing. Cheers. <a href="/wiki/User:Phil_wink" title="User:Phil wink">Phil wink</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Phil_wink" title="User talk:Phil wink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Phil_wink-20220727214400-Sources" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:44, 27 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Phil_wink-20220727214400-Sources"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Phil_wink-20220727214400-Sources"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Pronouns" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pronouns-20220804083000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pronouns-20220804083000"></span>Pronouns<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pronouns-20220804083000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=85" title="Edit section: Pronouns"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tom_dl-20220804083000-Pronouns"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> I'm making a list of card games articles where the pronouns are too ambiguous, hoping you'll find time to take a look. I still may change part of the article where there is less ambiguity, but in which case I'll identify the ambiguous section: </p> <ul><li><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literature_(card_game)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literature_(card_game)</a> - second paragraph of Strategy section</li> <li><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarocchini">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarocchini</a> - Variations > Game play section</li> <li><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truc_y_flou">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truc_y_flou</a> - Rules section</li></ul> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Tom_dl" title="User:Tom dl">Tom dl</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tom_dl" title="User talk:Tom dl">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Tom_dl-20220804083000-Pronouns" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:30, 4 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tom_dl-20220804083000-Pronouns"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tom_dl-20220804083000-Pronouns"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="If_memory_serves" data-mw-thread-id="h-If_memory_serves-20220820034300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-If_memory_serves-20220820034300"></span>If memory serves<span data-mw-comment-end="h-If_memory_serves-20220820034300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=86" title="Edit section: If memory serves"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-20220820034300-If_memory_serves"></span>You are interested in card games. Perhaps you would like to review <a href="/wiki/Draft:Escopa" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Escopa">Draft:Escopa</a>? <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Piotrus-20220820034300-If_memory_serves" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:43, 20 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-20220820034300-If_memory_serves"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-20220820034300-If_memory_serves"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Siegessäulen" data-mw-thread-id="h-Siegessäulen-20221019185000"><span id="Siegess.C3.A4ulen"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Siegessäulen-20221019185000"></span><i>Siegessäulen</i><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Siegessäulen-20221019185000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=87" title="Edit section: Siegessäulen"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Another_Believer-20221019185000-Siegessäulen"></span>Hello and thanks for working on <i><a href="/wiki/Siegess%C3%A4ulen" title="Siegessäulen">Siegessäulen</a></i>. Are you able to find any other sources to add? ---<a href="/wiki/User:Another_Believer" title="User:Another Believer"><span style="color:navy">Another Believer</span></a> <sub>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Another_Believer" title="User talk:Another Believer"><span style="color:#C60">Talk</span></a>)</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Another_Believer-20221019185000-Siegessäulen" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:50, 19 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Another_Believer-20221019185000-Siegessäulen"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Another_Believer-20221019185000-Siegessäulen"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-20221019185500-Another_Believer-20221019185000"></span>Not really my main subject area, but when I checked Google and Google books there weren't many references at all. None for peace columns and a handful for victory columns. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-20221019185500-Another_Believer-20221019185000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:55, 19 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-20221019185500-Another_Believer-20221019185000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-20221019185500-Another_Believer-20221019185000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Missing_cite_in_Glossary_of_domino_terms" data-mw-thread-id="h-Missing_cite_in_Glossary_of_domino_terms-20221020233100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Missing_cite_in_Glossary_of_domino_terms-20221020233100"></span>Missing cite in <a href="/wiki/Glossary_of_domino_terms" title="Glossary of domino terms">Glossary of domino terms</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Missing_cite_in_Glossary_of_domino_terms-20221020233100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=88" title="Edit section: Missing cite in Glossary of domino terms"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Renata3-20221020233100-Missing_cite_in_Glossary_of_domino_terms"></span>The article cites "Armanino 1977" but no such source is listed in the bibliography. Can you please add? Also, suggest installing a script to highlight such errors in the future. All you need to do is copy and paste <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-js mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr"><span class="nx">importScript</span><span class="p">(</span><span class="s1">'User:Svick/HarvErrors.js'</span><span class="p">);</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="c1">// Backlink: [[User:Svick/HarvErrors.js]]</span></code> to <a href="/wiki/Special:MyPage/common.js" title="Special:MyPage/common.js">your common.js page</a>. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Renata3" title="User:Renata3">Renata</a>•<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Renata3" title="User talk:Renata3">3</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Renata3-20221020233100-Missing_cite_in_Glossary_of_domino_terms" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:31, 20 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Renata3-20221020233100-Missing_cite_in_Glossary_of_domino_terms"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Renata3-20221020233100-Missing_cite_in_Glossary_of_domino_terms"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-20221021085400-Renata3-20221020233100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Renata3" title="User:Renata3">Renata3</a>:</span> that's done. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-20221021085400-Renata3-20221020233100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:54, 21 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-20221021085400-Renata3-20221020233100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-20221021085400-Renata3-20221020233100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Beuth" data-mw-thread-id="h-Beuth-20221026151300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Beuth-20221026151300"></span>Beuth<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Beuth-20221026151300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=89" title="Edit section: Beuth"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nyamo_Kurosawa-20221026151300-Beuth"></span>Thank you for expanding the <a href="/wiki/Beuth_(locomotive)" title="Beuth (locomotive)">Beuth (locomotive)</a> article with info from the German wiki article. As the sourcing of that German article is wonky, are you aware of any other sources to further improve the article? Especially for stuff like "first steam locomotive developed independently in Germany", sources would be nice to have. Best regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Nyamo_Kurosawa" title="User:Nyamo Kurosawa">Nyamo Kurosawa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nyamo_Kurosawa" title="User talk:Nyamo Kurosawa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Nyamo_Kurosawa-20221026151300-Beuth" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:13, 26 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nyamo_Kurosawa-20221026151300-Beuth"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nyamo_Kurosawa-20221026151300-Beuth"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Backgammon" data-mw-thread-id="h-Backgammon-20221210010500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Backgammon-20221210010500"></span>Backgammon<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Backgammon-20221210010500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=90" title="Edit section: Backgammon"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mwcc1919-20221210010500-Backgammon"></span>You edited a sentence I wrote about the Laws of Backgammon which was published in 1931. I am happy to send you a copy if you don't believe its existence. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mwcc1919&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mwcc1919 (page does not exist)">Mwcc1919</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mwcc1919" title="User talk:Mwcc1919">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Mwcc1919-20221210010500-Backgammon" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:05, 10 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mwcc1919-20221210010500-Backgammon"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mwcc1919-20221210010500-Backgammon"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-20221210092300-Mwcc1919-20221210010500"></span>I've responded at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Backgammon#First_rules_of_Backgammon" title="Talk:Backgammon">the talk page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-20221210092300-Mwcc1919-20221210010500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-20221210092300-Mwcc1919-20221210010500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-20221210092300-Mwcc1919-20221210010500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Missing_citations_at_Glossary_of_card_game_terms" data-mw-thread-id="h-Missing_citations_at_Glossary_of_card_game_terms-20221212130700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Missing_citations_at_Glossary_of_card_game_terms-20221212130700"></span>Missing citations at <a href="/wiki/Glossary_of_card_game_terms" title="Glossary of card game terms">Glossary of card game terms</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Missing_citations_at_Glossary_of_card_game_terms-20221212130700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=91" title="Edit section: Missing citations at Glossary of card game terms"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20221212130700-Missing_citations_at_Glossary_of_card_game_terms"></span>Hi, Bermicourt. <a href="/wiki/Glossary_of_card_game_terms" title="Glossary of card game terms">Glossary of card game terms</a> caught my eye because it's reference section was almost entirely Harv/sfn errors. I explained in the ES I pinged you in what was causing that, but, looking at it now, there's still quite a few errors caused by a lack of citation in the bibliography. I tracked down Arnold 2007, but could you please add citations for Dummett 1980, Goren 1950, Gibson 1974, Parlett 1979, Pardon 1864, and _ 1881? (Should that last one be <i>Hans Jörgel</i> 1875, currently unused?) <span class="nowrap"> <span style="font-family:courier">-- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup>[<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</span></a></i>]</sup> (she|they|xe)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Tamzin-20221212130700-Missing_citations_at_Glossary_of_card_game_terms" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:07, 12 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20221212130700-Missing_citations_at_Glossary_of_card_game_terms"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20221212130700-Missing_citations_at_Glossary_of_card_game_terms"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-20221212165700-Tamzin-20221212130700"></span>Thanks for alerting me to that, Tamzin. See response on <a href="/wiki/Talk:Glossary_of_card_game_terms#Missing_citations" title="Talk:Glossary of card game terms">Talk:Glossary of card game terms#Missing citations</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-20221212165700-Tamzin-20221212130700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:57, 12 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-20221212165700-Tamzin-20221212130700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-20221212165700-Tamzin-20221212130700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!-20230102023300"><span id="Happy_New_Year.2C_Bermicourt.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!-20230102023300"></span>Happy New Year, Bermicourt!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!-20230102023300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=92" title="Edit section: Happy New Year, Bermicourt!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="border: 3px solid #FFD700; 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margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><span style="font-size:179%;"><i><b><a href="/wiki/New_Year" title="New Year">Happy New Year</a>!</b></i></span></div> <p><b>Bermicourt</b>,<br/>Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable <a href="/wiki/New_Year" title="New Year">New Year</a>, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. <br/><span style="color: blue">—</span> <a href="/wiki/User:Moops" title="User:Moops"><span style="color: green">Moops</span></a> <sup><span style="font-size:80%">⋠<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moops" title="User talk:Moops"><span style="color: indigo"><b>T</b></span></a>⋡</span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Moops-20230102023300-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:33, 2 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moops-20230102023300-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moops-20230102023300-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!"></span><br/><br/> </p> </div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moops-20230102023300-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!-1"></span> <i><span style="font-size:88%;">Send New Year cheer by adding {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Happy_New_Year_fireworks" title="Template:Happy New Year fireworks">subst:Happy New Year fireworks</a>}} to user talk pages.</span></i> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <p><span style="color: blue">—</span> <a href="/wiki/User:Moops" title="User:Moops"><span style="color: green">Moops</span></a> <sup><span style="font-size:80%">⋠<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moops" title="User talk:Moops"><span style="color: indigo"><b>T</b></span></a>⋡</span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Moops-20230102023300-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:33, 2 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moops-20230102023300-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moops-20230102023300-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!-1"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Copying_within_Wikipedia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Copying_within_Wikipedia-20230208140400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Copying_within_Wikipedia-20230208140400"></span>Copying within Wikipedia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Copying_within_Wikipedia-20230208140400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=93" title="Edit section: Copying within Wikipedia"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sphilbrick-20230208140400-Copying_within_Wikipedia"></span>You did not identify the source of the material in <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tarot_card_reading&diff=1138187737">your edit</a>. It appears to be <a href="/wiki/Tarot" title="Tarot">Tarot</a>. Copying within Wikipedia is acceptable but it must be attributed. </p><p>This type of edit does get picked up by <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/copypatrol/en">Copy Patrol</a> and a good edit summary helps to make sure we don't accidentally revert it. However, for future use, would you note the best practices wording as outlined at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Copying_within_Wikipedia" title="Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia">Wikipedia:Copying_within_Wikipedia</a>? In particular, linking to the source article and adding the phrase "see that page's history for attribution" helps ensure that proper attribution is preserved. </p><p>While best practices are that attribution should be added to the edit summary at the time the edit is made, the linked article on best practices describes the appropriate steps to add attribution after the fact. I hope you will do so. </p><p>I've noticed that this guideline is not very well known, even among editors with tens of thousands of edits, so it isn't surprising that I point this out to some veteran editors, but there are some t's that need to be crossed.<a href="/wiki/User:Sphilbrick" title="User:Sphilbrick"><span style="color:#000E2F;padding:0 4px;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">S Philbrick</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sphilbrick" title="User talk:Sphilbrick"><span style=";padding:0 4px;color:# 000;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">(Talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Sphilbrick-20230208140400-Copying_within_Wikipedia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:04, 8 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sphilbrick-20230208140400-Copying_within_Wikipedia"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sphilbrick-20230208140400-Copying_within_Wikipedia"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-20230208215100-Sphilbrick-20230208140400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sphilbrick" title="User:Sphilbrick">Sphilbrick</a>:</span> no, I was aware of the need for attribution from other language Wikipedias, but not from within the same Wiki. Thanks for pointing that out. I think I've fixed it, but let me know if it's still not right.<a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-20230208215100-Sphilbrick-20230208140400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:51, 8 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-20230208215100-Sphilbrick-20230208140400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-20230208215100-Sphilbrick-20230208140400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sphilbrick-20230208215600-Bermicourt-20230208215100"></span>Thanks, as I mentioned, it isn't well-known. You are very experienced, I assume you've done it right. <a href="/wiki/User:Sphilbrick" title="User:Sphilbrick"><span style="color:#000E2F;padding:0 4px;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">S Philbrick</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sphilbrick" title="User talk:Sphilbrick"><span style=";padding:0 4px;color:# 000;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">(Talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Sphilbrick-20230208215600-Bermicourt-20230208215100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:56, 8 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sphilbrick-20230208215600-Bermicourt-20230208215100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sphilbrick-20230208215600-Bermicourt-20230208215100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thanks_for_reworking_Kriegsberg_Tower!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks_for_reworking_Kriegsberg_Tower!-20230215091000"><span id="Thanks_for_reworking_Kriegsberg_Tower.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks_for_reworking_Kriegsberg_Tower!-20230215091000"></span>Thanks for reworking <a href="/wiki/Kriegsberg_Tower" title="Kriegsberg Tower">Kriegsberg Tower</a>!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks_for_reworking_Kriegsberg_Tower!-20230215091000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=94" title="Edit section: Thanks for reworking Kriegsberg Tower!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lizthegrey-20230215091000-Thanks_for_reworking_Kriegsberg_Tower!"></span>It's always a happy result to get to close an AfD because the article is now in good shape. 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Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Andy02124" title="User:Andy02124">Andy02124</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andy02124" title="User talk:Andy02124">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Andy02124-20230421205800-Slobberhannes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:58, 21 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andy02124-20230421205800-Slobberhannes"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andy02124-20230421205800-Slobberhannes"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="{{R_from_sort_name}}" data-mw-thread-id="h-{{R_from_sort_name}}-20230501185200"><span id=".7B.7BR_from_sort_name.7D.7D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-{{R_from_sort_name}}-20230501185200"></span><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:R_from_sort_name" title="Template:R from sort name">R from sort name</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-{{R_from_sort_name}}-20230501185200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=101" title="Edit section: {{R from sort name}}"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BD2412-20230501185200-{{R_from_sort_name}}"></span>Greetings! When created a sort name redirect like <a href="/wiki/Frey,_Richard_L." class="mw-redirect" title="Frey, Richard L.">Frey, Richard L.</a>, it is helpful to include <b>{{R from sort name|F|R}}</b>, so we know what kind of redirect it is. Cheers! <a href="/wiki/User:BD2412" title="User:BD2412"><span style="background:gold"><i><b>BD2412</b></i></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:BD2412" title="User talk:BD2412"><b>T</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-BD2412-20230501185200-{{R_from_sort_name}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:52, 1 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BD2412-20230501185200-{{R_from_sort_name}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BD2412-20230501185200-{{R_from_sort_name}}"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-20230501195500-BD2412-20230501185200"></span>Thanks for letting me know. I'll take a look at the guidance. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-20230501195500-BD2412-20230501185200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:55, 1 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-20230501195500-BD2412-20230501185200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-20230501195500-BD2412-20230501185200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Fallacies_regarding_Canoe" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fallacies_regarding_Canoe-20230702125800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fallacies_regarding_Canoe-20230702125800"></span>Fallacies regarding Canoe<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fallacies_regarding_Canoe-20230702125800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=102" title="Edit section: Fallacies regarding Canoe"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kanoniem-20230702125800-Fallacies_regarding_Canoe"></span>Your latest edit on the <a href="/wiki/Canoe" title="Canoe">Canoe</a> page contains some errors: In American usage, canoeists nowadays also use double-bladed paddles in (open) canoes, and those are usually not called kayaks then. And for sporting competition purposes, the American distinction between a kayak and a canoe is not sometimes but almost always adopted (and the English language obliged): e.g. participating with a kayak is not allowed in canoe races. <a href="/wiki/User:Kanoniem" title="User:Kanoniem">Kanoniem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kanoniem" title="User talk:Kanoniem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Kanoniem-20230702125800-Fallacies_regarding_Canoe" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:58, 2 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kanoniem-20230702125800-Fallacies_regarding_Canoe"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kanoniem-20230702125800-Fallacies_regarding_Canoe"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kanoniem-20230702131200-Fallacies_regarding_Canoe"></span>I also noticed you made some mistakes regarding the <a href="/wiki/Kayak" title="Kayak">Kayak</a> page: In British English the word kayak does not refer to an open canoe, but the word canoe can also be used for a kayak. So the <a href="/wiki/Kayak" title="Kayak">Kayak</a> article is _not_ about the kayak in the narrower American sense of the word. <a href="/wiki/User:Kanoniem" title="User:Kanoniem">Kanoniem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kanoniem" title="User talk:Kanoniem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Kanoniem-20230702131200-Fallacies_regarding_Canoe" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:12, 2 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kanoniem-20230702131200-Fallacies_regarding_Canoe"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kanoniem-20230702131200-Fallacies_regarding_Canoe"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-20230702131600-Kanoniem-20230702131200"></span>See my reply on the <a href="/wiki/Talk:Canoe" title="Talk:Canoe">talk page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-20230702131600-Kanoniem-20230702131200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:16, 2 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-20230702131600-Kanoniem-20230702131200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-20230702131600-Kanoniem-20230702131200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Treppenrommé" data-mw-thread-id="h-Treppenrommé-20230911155600"><span id="Treppenromm.C3.A9"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Treppenrommé-20230911155600"></span>Treppenrommé<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Treppenrommé-20230911155600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=103" title="Edit section: Treppenrommé"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andy02124-20230911155600-Treppenrommé"></span>When I come across one of your articles while fixing footnote errors I try to stick to your "text-based ref" style although I admit that if that's more work than updating the sfns, I'll go with the sfns. Treppenrommé has sfns referencing an uncited work dated 1988, so I'll leave it to you to sort out. <a href="/wiki/User:Andy02124" title="User:Andy02124">Andy02124</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andy02124" title="User talk:Andy02124">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Andy02124-20230911155600-Treppenrommé" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:56, 11 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andy02124-20230911155600-Treppenrommé"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andy02124-20230911155600-Treppenrommé"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Concern_regarding_Draft:Ski_route" data-mw-thread-id="h-Concern_regarding_Draft:Ski_route-20231011080100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Concern_regarding_Draft:Ski_route-20231011080100"></span>Concern regarding <a href="/wiki/Draft:Ski_route" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Ski route">Draft:Ski route</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Concern_regarding_Draft:Ski_route-20231011080100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=104" title="Edit section: Concern regarding Draft:Ski route"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FireflyBot-20231011080100-Concern_regarding_Draft:Ski_route"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/25px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/38px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/50px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a></span> Hello, Bermicourt. 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Removing <span class="nowrap"><code>{{proposed deletion/dated}}</code></span> will stop the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Proposed deletion">proposed deletion process</a>, but other <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process">deletion processes</a> exist. In particular, the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">speedy deletion</a> process can result in deletion without discussion, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion">articles for deletion</a> allows discussion to reach <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a> for deletion. <a href="/wiki/User:Shhhnotsoloud" title="User:Shhhnotsoloud">Shhhnotsoloud</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shhhnotsoloud" title="User talk:Shhhnotsoloud">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Shhhnotsoloud-20231013152200-Proposed_deletion_of_Vogelsberg_(disambiguation)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:22, 13 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shhhnotsoloud-20231013152200-Proposed_deletion_of_Vogelsberg_(disambiguation)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shhhnotsoloud-20231013152200-Proposed_deletion_of_Vogelsberg_(disambiguation)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Shithead_names" data-mw-thread-id="h-Shithead_names-20231016104200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Shithead_names-20231016104200"></span>Shithead names<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Shithead_names-20231016104200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=106" title="Edit section: Shithead names"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Belbury-20231016104200-Shithead_names"></span>Sorry, misread your <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">an app called Poohead has been developed for iPhones</q> as being promotional without checking who'd actually added it. No implication about your motives intended! </p><p>It does look like there are a lot of apps out there which can't call themselves "Shithead" due to app store rules and have to pick a different name, though (eg. "Sheethead", "Lucky Head"). Doesn't seem worth singling any out on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PRIMARY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PRIMARY">WP:PRIMARY</a> app store sources, not even for sourcing an alternate name. <a href="/wiki/User:Belbury" title="User:Belbury">Belbury</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Belbury" title="User talk:Belbury">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Belbury-20231016104200-Shithead_names" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:42, 16 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Belbury-20231016104200-Shithead_names"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Belbury-20231016104200-Shithead_names"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-20231016113000-Belbury-20231016104200"></span>No worries. I think it's a genuine app and felt it worth mentioning as an alternative (and slightly more polite!) name. Certainly no promotion intended. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-20231016113000-Belbury-20231016104200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:30, 16 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-20231016113000-Belbury-20231016104200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-20231016113000-Belbury-20231016104200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_kitten_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_kitten_for_you!-20231114035600"><span id="A_kitten_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_kitten_for_you!-20231114035600"></span>A kitten for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_kitten_for_you!-20231114035600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=107" title="Edit section: A kitten for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Psiĥedelisto-20231114035600-A_kitten_for_you!"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Kitten_in_a_helmet.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/Kitten_in_a_helmet.jpg/150px-Kitten_in_a_helmet.jpg" decoding="async" width="150" height="101" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/Kitten_in_a_helmet.jpg/225px-Kitten_in_a_helmet.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/Kitten_in_a_helmet.jpg/300px-Kitten_in_a_helmet.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1733" data-file-height="1164"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>For writing a useful article at <a href="/wiki/Galician_Tarok" title="Galician Tarok">Galician Tarok</a>! <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:SNice.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/SNice.svg/18px-SNice.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/SNice.svg/27px-SNice.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/SNice.svg/36px-SNice.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="55" data-file-height="55"/></a></span> </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Psi%C4%A5edelisto" title="User:Psiĥedelisto">Psiĥedelisto</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Psi%C4%A5edelisto" title="User talk:Psiĥedelisto">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Psi%C4%A5edelisto" title="Special:Contributions/Psiĥedelisto">contribs</a>) <sup>please <i>always</i> <a href="/wiki/Help:Notifications" title="Help:Notifications">ping</a>!</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Psiĥedelisto-20231114035600-A_kitten_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:56, 14 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Psiĥedelisto-20231114035600-A_kitten_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Psiĥedelisto-20231114035600-A_kitten_for_you!"></span> <br style="clear: both;"/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Disambiguation_link_notification_for_December_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_December_2-20231202060200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_December_2-20231202060200"></span>Disambiguation link notification for December 2<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_December_2-20231202060200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=108" title="Edit section: Disambiguation link notification for December 2"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DPL_bot-20231202060200-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_December_2"></span>An automated process has detected that when you recently edited <a href="/wiki/Ace-Ten_games" class="mw-redirect" title="Ace-Ten games">Ace-Ten games</a>, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page <a href="/wiki/Triumph" class="mw-disambig" title="Triumph">Triumph</a>. </p><p>(<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">Opt-out instructions</a>.) --<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">DPL bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DPL_bot" title="User talk:DPL bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-DPL_bot-20231202060200-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_December_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:02, 2 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DPL_bot-20231202060200-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_December_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DPL_bot-20231202060200-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_December_2"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Why_did_you_revert_my_edit?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Why_did_you_revert_my_edit?-20231206151900"><span id="Why_did_you_revert_my_edit.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Why_did_you_revert_my_edit?-20231206151900"></span>Why did you revert my edit?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Why_did_you_revert_my_edit?-20231206151900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=109" title="Edit section: Why did you revert my edit?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2600:1006:B066:3AE6:C495:41BE:A0A0:2F70-20231206151900-Why_did_you_revert_my_edit?"></span>I edited the page <a href="/wiki/Trump_(card_games)" title="Trump (card games)">Trump (card games)</a>, and you reverted it. Your edit summary reads “m”. Could your please explain? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:1006:B066:3AE6:C495:41BE:A0A0:2F70" title="Special:Contributions/2600:1006:B066:3AE6:C495:41BE:A0A0:2F70">2600:1006:B066:3AE6:C495:41BE:A0A0:2F70</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2600:1006:B066:3AE6:C495:41BE:A0A0:2F70&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2600:1006:B066:3AE6:C495:41BE:A0A0:2F70 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-2600:1006:B066:3AE6:C495:41BE:A0A0:2F70-20231206151900-Why_did_you_revert_my_edit?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 6 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2600:1006:B066:3AE6:C495:41BE:A0A0:2F70-20231206151900-Why_did_you_revert_my_edit?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2600:1006:B066:3AE6:C495:41BE:A0A0:2F70-20231206151900-Why_did_you_revert_my_edit?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-20231206153800-2600:1006:B066:3AE6:C495:41BE:A0A0:2F70-20231206151900"></span>I've responded at the talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-20231206153800-2600:1006:B066:3AE6:C495:41BE:A0A0:2F70-20231206151900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:38, 6 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-20231206153800-2600:1006:B066:3AE6:C495:41BE:A0A0:2F70-20231206151900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-20231206153800-2600:1006:B066:3AE6:C495:41BE:A0A0:2F70-20231206151900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Merge_Pusoy_Dos_into_Big_Two" data-mw-thread-id="h-Merge_Pusoy_Dos_into_Big_Two"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Merge_Pusoy_Dos_into_Big_Two"></span>Merge Pusoy Dos into Big Two<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Merge_Pusoy_Dos_into_Big_Two"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=110" title="Edit section: Merge Pusoy Dos into Big Two"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Reminder of own proposal: I propose merging Pusoy dos into Big two. Pusoy dos is a minor variant of Big two and I don't think it merits its own page. There are very few sources for this as a stand-alone game. One of the citations here goes to an archived article that is not a WP:RS; the other goes to John McLeod's page for Big Two at pagat.com where he only gives Pusoy dos a couple of lines as a variant, not even a separate section. The essential differences can be added to Big Two without causing would any article-size or weighting problems.Bermicourt (talk) 08:57, 16 September 2023 (UTC) </p><p>@Bermicourt: given the lack of objection and the clear case, I think that it would be fine for you or any other used to merge these. You might have more expertise than me to do this elegantly! 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However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.</div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Dicklyon" title="User:Dicklyon">Dicklyon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dicklyon" title="User talk:Dicklyon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Dicklyon-20231213061700-Nomination_of_Swords_(suit)_for_deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:17, 13 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dicklyon-20231213061700-Nomination_of_Swords_(suit)_for_deletion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dicklyon-20231213061700-Nomination_of_Swords_(suit)_for_deletion"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Seasons_Greetings!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Seasons_Greetings!-20231218192300"><span id="Seasons_Greetings.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Seasons_Greetings!-20231218192300"></span>Seasons Greetings!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Seasons_Greetings!-20231218192300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=115" title="Edit section: Seasons Greetings!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="border-style:solid; border-color:#FF4646; background-color:#00A86B; border-width:2px; text-align:left; padding:7px; border-radius:1em; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);;" class="plainlinks"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dr._Blofeld-20231218192300-Seasons_Greetings!"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Santa_with_musical_instruments.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Santa_with_musical_instruments.jpg/130px-Santa_with_musical_instruments.jpg" decoding="async" width="130" height="173" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Santa_with_musical_instruments.jpg/195px-Santa_with_musical_instruments.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Santa_with_musical_instruments.jpg/260px-Santa_with_musical_instruments.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3000" data-file-height="4000"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pap%C3%A1_Noel_gatuno_2011_(cropped).JPG" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Pap%C3%A1_Noel_gatuno_2011_%28cropped%29.JPG/240px-Pap%C3%A1_Noel_gatuno_2011_%28cropped%29.JPG" decoding="async" width="240" height="180" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Pap%C3%A1_Noel_gatuno_2011_%28cropped%29.JPG/360px-Pap%C3%A1_Noel_gatuno_2011_%28cropped%29.JPG 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Pap%C3%A1_Noel_gatuno_2011_%28cropped%29.JPG/480px-Pap%C3%A1_Noel_gatuno_2011_%28cropped%29.JPG 2x" data-file-width="2931" data-file-height="2198"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Happy_Holidays_text.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Happy_Holidays_text.png/301px-Happy_Holidays_text.png" decoding="async" width="301" height="114" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Happy_Holidays_text.png/452px-Happy_Holidays_text.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Happy_Holidays_text.png/602px-Happy_Holidays_text.png 2x" data-file-width="1131" data-file-height="429"/></a></span></div> <p><span style="color:white"><span style="font-size:120%"><i><b>Hello there, thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia! Wishing you a Very Merry Christmas and here's to a happy and productive 2024! ♦ <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dr._Blofeld" title="User talk:Dr. Blofeld"><span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e"><i>Dr. Blofeld</i></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Dr._Blofeld-20231218192300-Seasons_Greetings!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:23, 18 December 2023 (UTC)</a></b></i></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dr._Blofeld-20231218192300-Seasons_Greetings!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dr._Blofeld-20231218192300-Seasons_Greetings!"></span> </p> <div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Merry_Christmas" data-mw-thread-id="h-Merry_Christmas-20231225071300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Merry_Christmas-20231225071300"></span>Merry Christmas<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Merry_Christmas-20231225071300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=116" title="Edit section: Merry Christmas"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 4px solid #FFD700;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 2px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dicklyon-20231225071300-Merry_Christmas"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia_Happy_New_Year.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Wikipedia_Happy_New_Year.png/211px-Wikipedia_Happy_New_Year.png" decoding="async" width="211" height="179" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Wikipedia_Happy_New_Year.png/317px-Wikipedia_Happy_New_Year.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Wikipedia_Happy_New_Year.png/422px-Wikipedia_Happy_New_Year.png 2x" data-file-width="444" data-file-height="376"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 2px 2px 0 2px; height: 1.5em;"><b>Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2024!</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;"> <hr/> <p><b>Hello Bermicourt, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this <a href="/wiki/Christmas_and_holiday_season" title="Christmas and holiday season">seasonal occasion</a>. Spread the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiLove" title="Wikipedia:WikiLove">WikiLove</a> by wishing another user a <a href="/wiki/Christmas" title="Christmas">Merry Christmas</a> and a <a href="/wiki/New_Year" title="New Year">Happy New Year</a>, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2024. <br/>Happy editing,</b><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Dicklyon" title="User:Dicklyon">Dicklyon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dicklyon" title="User talk:Dicklyon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Dicklyon-20231225071300-Merry_Christmas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:13, 25 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dicklyon-20231225071300-Merry_Christmas"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dicklyon-20231225071300-Merry_Christmas"></span> </p><p><i><span style="font-size:96%;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dicklyon-20231225071300-Merry_Christmas-1"></span>Spread the love by adding {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Seasonal_Greetings" title="Template:Seasonal Greetings">subst:Seasonal Greetings</a>}} to other user talk pages.</span></i> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Dicklyon" title="User:Dicklyon">Dicklyon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dicklyon" title="User talk:Dicklyon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Dicklyon-20231225071300-Merry_Christmas-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:13, 25 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dicklyon-20231225071300-Merry_Christmas-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dicklyon-20231225071300-Merry_Christmas-1"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:Trump_group" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Trump_group-20231228025200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Trump_group-20231228025200"></span><a href="/wiki/Category:Trump_group" title="Category:Trump group">Category:Trump group</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Trump_group-20231228025200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=117" title="Edit section: Category:Trump group"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-20231228025200-Category:Trump_group"></span>Quick note - is the term 'group' best here? No parent category for this term. Red links for <a href="/wiki/Trump_group" class="mw-redirect" title="Trump group">Trump group</a>; ditto for subcategories. I see this term also used at <a href="/wiki/Category:Plain-trick_games" title="Category:Plain-trick games">Category:Plain-trick games</a>. At minimum, we need some kind of category for card game groups, but wouldn't term variant or family be better? <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Piotrus-20231228025200-Category:Trump_group" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:52, 28 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-20231228025200-Category:Trump_group"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-20231228025200-Category:Trump_group"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="CSD_and_categories" data-mw-thread-id="h-CSD_and_categories-20231229213500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-CSD_and_categories-20231229213500"></span>CSD and categories<span data-mw-comment-end="h-CSD_and_categories-20231229213500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=118" title="Edit section: CSD and categories"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Liz-20231229213500-CSD_and_categories"></span>Hello, Bermicourt, </p><p>Please do not make up your own speedy deletion criteria. CSD criteria are intentionally limited in scope. Both of the categories that you did this to have been merged which is preferable to deleting a longstanding category in favor of one that was just created today. Or they should have been renamed via CFD speedy renames. But please don't create a slightly different category to one that has existed for years and then tag the older one for deletion with your own deletion rationale. It will likely be declined. Categories have specific rules and if you don't know about them, spend some time reviewing proposals at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CFD">Categories for Discussion</a> which will help you learn about the process. Thank you. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;"><a href="/wiki/User:Liz" title="User:Liz"><i><b>L</b></i>iz</a></span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Liz" title="Special:Contributions/Liz"><i><b>Read!</b></i></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Liz" title="User talk:Liz"><i><b>Talk!</b></i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Liz-20231229213500-CSD_and_categories" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 29 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Liz-20231229213500-CSD_and_categories"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Liz-20231229213500-CSD_and_categories"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-20231229213900-Liz-20231229213500"></span>Thank you, that's helpful and I will follow that process in future. Just to say that the purpose was to align the categories with the main <a href="/wiki/Card_game" title="Card game">card game</a> article which contains a recognised classification and naming system for card games, so I'm not inventing new names. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-20231229213900-Liz-20231229213500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:39, 29 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-20231229213900-Liz-20231229213500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-20231229213900-Liz-20231229213500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!_2-20240101151700"><span id="Happy_New_Year.2C_Bermicourt.21_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!_2-20240101151700"></span>Happy New Year, Bermicourt!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!_2-20240101151700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=119" title="Edit section: Happy New Year, Bermicourt!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="border: 3px solid #FFD700; background-color: #FFFAF0; padding:0.2em 0.4em; height:auto; min-height:173px; border-radius:1em; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);" class="plainlinks"> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Abishe-20240101151700-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!_2"></span><figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Everlasting_Fireworks_looped.gif" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Everlasting_Fireworks_looped.gif/186px-Everlasting_Fireworks_looped.gif" decoding="async" width="186" height="173" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Everlasting_Fireworks_looped.gif/280px-Everlasting_Fireworks_looped.gif 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/Everlasting_Fireworks_looped.gif 2x" data-file-width="371" data-file-height="345"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Happy_new_year_01.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Happy_new_year_01.svg/177px-Happy_new_year_01.svg.png" decoding="async" width="177" height="173" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Happy_new_year_01.svg/266px-Happy_new_year_01.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Happy_new_year_01.svg/354px-Happy_new_year_01.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1317" data-file-height="1288"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><span style="font-size:179%;"><i><b><a href="/wiki/New_Year" title="New Year">Happy New Year</a>!</b></i></span></div> <p><b>Bermicourt</b>,<br/>Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable <a href="/wiki/New_Year" title="New Year">New Year</a>, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. <br/><a href="/wiki/User:Abishe" title="User:Abishe">Abishe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abishe" title="User talk:Abishe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Abishe-20240101151700-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:17, 1 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Abishe-20240101151700-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Abishe-20240101151700-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!_2"></span><br/><br/> </p> </div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Abishe-20240101151700-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!_2-1"></span> <i><span style="font-size:88%;">Send New Year cheer by adding {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Happy_New_Year_fireworks" title="Template:Happy New Year fireworks">subst:Happy New Year fireworks</a>}} to user talk pages.</span></i> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Abishe" title="User:Abishe">Abishe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abishe" title="User talk:Abishe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Abishe-20240101151700-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!_2-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:17, 1 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Abishe-20240101151700-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!_2-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Abishe-20240101151700-Happy_New_Year,_Bermicourt!_2-1"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Olive_branch" data-mw-thread-id="h-Olive_branch-20240104125500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Olive_branch-20240104125500"></span>Olive branch<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Olive_branch-20240104125500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=120" title="Edit section: Olive branch"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="background-color:LightCyan; border:1px solid Olive; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SMcCandlish-20240104125500-Olive_branch"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Olive_branch.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/Olive_branch.svg/100px-Olive_branch.svg.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="54" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/Olive_branch.svg/150px-Olive_branch.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/Olive_branch.svg/200px-Olive_branch.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="744" data-file-height="400"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <span style="font-size: x-large;"><b>I extend the olive branch.</b></span><br/> I apologize for my over-caffeinated screed. It's alarming to me that you would consider just leaving the project entirely over a style dispute, and such a result is certainly not my intent. There is far more to quality game-related article writing (at which you are good) than some capital letters. I certainly share your concerns with people substantively changing direct quotations, and altering once-sourced material to make it disagree with what the sources say. These seem to be unrelated matters, and I know that fending off bad edits (usually clueless or confused, not ill-meaning) can be a drain on one's patience. I hope that a WP-house-style versus game-publishers'-house-style mismatch is not actually enough to put you off the long-term encyclopedic boon you provide, especially in a topic area with few contributors.</div> <p><span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — <a href="/wiki/User:SMcCandlish" title="User:SMcCandlish"><b>SMcCandlish</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:SMcCandlish" title="User talk:SMcCandlish">☏</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish" title="Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish">¢</a> 😼 </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-SMcCandlish-20240104125500-Olive_branch" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:55, 4 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SMcCandlish-20240104125500-Olive_branch"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SMcCandlish-20240104125500-Olive_branch"></span> </p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SMcCandlish-20240104151400-SMcCandlish-20240104125500"></span>PS: I strongly agree with your take at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Swords_(suit)" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Swords (suit)">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Swords (suit)</a>, etc.; if I'd seen those AfDs when they were open, I would have chimed in a like manner. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — <a href="/wiki/User:SMcCandlish" title="User:SMcCandlish"><b>SMcCandlish</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:SMcCandlish" title="User talk:SMcCandlish">☏</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish" title="Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish">¢</a> 😼 </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-SMcCandlish-20240104151400-SMcCandlish-20240104125500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:14, 4 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SMcCandlish-20240104151400-SMcCandlish-20240104125500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SMcCandlish-20240104151400-SMcCandlish-20240104125500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Please_consider_staying" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_consider_staying-20240104130700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_consider_staying-20240104130700"></span>Please consider staying<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_consider_staying-20240104130700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=121" title="Edit section: Please consider staying"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hike395-20240104130700-Please_consider_staying"></span>Hi, Bermicourt. I saw you remove yourself from the participant list at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MOUNTAINS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MOUNTAINS">WP:MOUNTAINS</a>. I just wanted to let you know that I've appreciated all of the work you've done on mountains in Europe, and on game articles. I think you're a positive force for Wikipedia, and I hope you stay! — <a href="/wiki/User:Hike395" title="User:Hike395">hike395</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hike395" title="User talk:Hike395">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Hike395-20240104130700-Please_consider_staying" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:07, 4 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hike395-20240104130700-Please_consider_staying"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hike395-20240104130700-Please_consider_staying"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_joy_of_all_things-20240104131800-Hike395-20240104130700"></span>Ditto for the Rivers Project. If you stay, it will be positive for the encyclopedia, but perfectly understand if you wish to bow out. Good luck with whatever you decide. Regards. <a href="/wiki/User:The_joy_of_all_things" title="User:The joy of all things">The joy of all things</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_joy_of_all_things" title="User talk:The joy of all things">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-The_joy_of_all_things-20240104131800-Hike395-20240104130700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:18, 4 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_joy_of_all_things-20240104131800-Hike395-20240104130700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_joy_of_all_things-20240104131800-Hike395-20240104130700"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-20240109141100-Hike395-20240104130700"></span>This. I really value your contributions related to card games and I hope you'll reconsider. IMHO Wikipedia's quality is steadily improving, minor issues like house style on capitalization should not be an impediment to our curation of content. <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Piotrus-20240109141100-Hike395-20240104130700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:11, 9 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-20240109141100-Hike395-20240104130700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-20240109141100-Hike395-20240104130700"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-20240110171200-Piotrus-20240109141100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Hike395" title="User:Hike395">Hike395</a>:</span> <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:The_joy_of_all_things" title="User:The joy of all things">The joy of all things</a>:</span> <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotrus</a>:</span> thank you for those kind words and I will miss working with you. Sadly, the issue is not seen as minor by our style champions otherwise it wouldn't be enforced. If one day Wikipedia can accept an inclusive "both/and" approach in these areas – as it does with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ENGVAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ENGVAR">WP:ENGVAR</a> – whereby articles on a given topic may use title case if the relevant literature does, while other articles may follow the general practice of using lower case, then I may be motivated to return. But I don't expect that to happen anytime soon. In the meantime, I may see you on German Wikipedia... Best regards. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-20240110171200-Piotrus-20240109141100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:12, 10 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-20240110171200-Piotrus-20240109141100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-20240110171200-Piotrus-20240109141100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Card_editors?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Card_editors?-20240107011000"><span id="Card_editors.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Card_editors?-20240107011000"></span>Card editors?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Card_editors?-20240107011000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=122" title="Edit section: Card editors?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dicklyon-20240107011000-Card_editors?"></span>Bermicourt, you had said on my talk page that "I and others have been working over several years to bring them to a higher standard". But I haven't found who else might be interested in these discussions, or in coordinating. Let me know if there's someone I should be in touch with. <a href="/wiki/User:Dicklyon" title="User:Dicklyon">Dicklyon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dicklyon" title="User talk:Dicklyon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Dicklyon-20240107011000-Card_editors?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:10, 7 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dicklyon-20240107011000-Card_editors?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dicklyon-20240107011000-Card_editors?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-20240110173800-Dicklyon-20240107011000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Dicklyon" title="User:Dicklyon">Dicklyon</a>:</span> I was mainly referring to the three or four editors who built a good foundation before I began working on this topic in parallel with my research and writing. They're still around, but not very active. There are also two or three experts, but they've never been actively involved probably because of real life busy-ness. In recent times, there have been a couple who have helped in tidying articles up and dealing with vandalism, but don't tend to create or expand articles. These include <a href="/wiki/User:Gregorytopov" title="User:Gregorytopov">User:Gregorytopov</a> who was active until end 2022, but has gone quiet, and <a href="/wiki/User:Belbury" title="User:Belbury">User:Belbury</a>. The truth is that I'm a prolific editor, helped by having translation skills, but I don't have any obvious successor.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>BTW in looking up the occasional fact, I notice that you're continuing to introduce errors into card game articles and breaking your own rules about capitalisation, but I've deleted my watchlist and not actively monitoring this any more. Such a shame that these articles will now go steadily downhill because we couldn't agree a "both/and" solution as we have with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ENGVAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ENGVAR">WP:ENGVAR</a>. Signing off now. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-20240110173800-Dicklyon-20240107011000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:38, 10 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-20240110173800-Dicklyon-20240107011000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-20240110173800-Dicklyon-20240107011000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dicklyon-20240110203600-Bermicourt-20240110173800"></span>It's sad to see you go. If I've made errors, who can point them out if you won't? <a href="/wiki/User:Dicklyon" title="User:Dicklyon">Dicklyon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dicklyon" title="User talk:Dicklyon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Dicklyon-20240110203600-Bermicourt-20240110173800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:36, 10 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dicklyon-20240110203600-Bermicourt-20240110173800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dicklyon-20240110203600-Bermicourt-20240110173800"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Belbury-20240111102700-Bermicourt-20240110173800"></span>Great shame to see you packing up! I'd always looked up to you as someone who knew their stuff on card games and was taking time to get the details right. Big boots to fill if they're now empty. My own edits in that area have just been workaday copyediting, weeding out silly house rules and sometimes rewriting rules to match the sources.</dd> <dd>I saw the wave of apparently search-and-replace lower-case sweeping through the card game articles, but only <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oh_hell&diff=prev&oldid=1194371445">stopped to rewrite the particularly unreadable one</a> that was on my watchlist. If there was a discussion about whether and how to apply that change, I didn't see it. <a href="/wiki/User:Belbury" title="User:Belbury">Belbury</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Belbury" title="User talk:Belbury">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Belbury-20240111102700-Bermicourt-20240110173800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:27, 11 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Belbury-20240111102700-Bermicourt-20240110173800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Belbury-20240111102700-Bermicourt-20240110173800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dicklyon-20240111152700-Belbury-20240111102700"></span>Just a brief discussion on my talk page, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dicklyon#Happy_New_Year!_Let's_work_together!" title="User talk:Dicklyon">User talk:Dicklyon#Happy New Year! Let's work together!</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Dicklyon" title="User:Dicklyon">Dicklyon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dicklyon" title="User talk:Dicklyon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Dicklyon-20240111152700-Belbury-20240111102700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:27, 11 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dicklyon-20240111152700-Belbury-20240111102700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dicklyon-20240111152700-Belbury-20240111102700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-2024-20240108084400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-2024-20240108084400"></span>2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-2024-20240108084400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=123" title="Edit section: 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="margin: auto; max-width: 32em; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba( 192, 192, 192, 0.75 ); border-radius: 1em; border: 1px solid #a7d7f9; margin-bottom: 1em; padding: 0.5em 1em 1em; color: black;" class="ui-helper-clearfix"> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240108084400-2024"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1257001546"><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);; border-radius:0.5em;"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Abel_Fest_K%C3%B6then.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Abel_Fest_K%C3%B6then.jpg/200px-Abel_Fest_K%C3%B6then.jpg" decoding="async" width="200" height="150" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Abel_Fest_K%C3%B6then.jpg/300px-Abel_Fest_K%C3%B6then.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Abel_Fest_K%C3%B6then.jpg/400px-Abel_Fest_K%C3%B6then.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4000" data-file-height="3000"/></a></span></td></tr></tbody></table> <center> <p><br/><br/><a href="/wiki/Die_Zeit,_die_Tag_und_Jahre_macht,_BWV_134a" title="Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht, BWV 134a">Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht</a> </p><p><b><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Happy</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Images_2024" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2024">New</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Places_and_songs_2024" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2024">Year</a></b> </p><p><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#2024" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">2024</a> <br/><br/> </p> </center></div><p> Have a good year whatever you do, - your help here is greatly appreciated, for mountains, castles, card games ... remembered! -- <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240108084400-2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:44, 8 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240108084400-2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240108084400-2024"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240112165500-2024"></span>I have a DYK on the Main page, but <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#12_Jan" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">my story</a> would be different, about <a href="/wiki/Le_nozze_di_figaro" class="mw-redirect" title="Le nozze di figaro">Figaro</a>, - <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwP1MD8gyaA">this Figaro</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240112165500-2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:55, 12 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240112165500-2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240112165500-2024"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="MfD_nomination_of_Portal:Eifel" data-mw-thread-id="h-MfD_nomination_of_Portal:Eifel-20240127191700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-MfD_nomination_of_Portal:Eifel-20240127191700"></span>MfD nomination of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Portal:Eifel&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Portal:Eifel (page does not exist)">Portal:Eifel</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-MfD_nomination_of_Portal:Eifel-20240127191700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=124" title="Edit section: MfD nomination of Portal:Eifel"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Schierbecker-20240127191700-MfD_nomination_of_Portal:Eifel"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Ambox_warning_orange.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/30px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="26" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/45px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/60px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></a></span> <a href="/w/index.php?title=Portal:Eifel&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Portal:Eifel (page does not exist)">Portal:Eifel</a>, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MfD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MfD">deletion</a>. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Portal:Eifel_(2nd_nomination)" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Eifel (2nd nomination)">Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Eifel (2nd nomination)</a> and please be sure to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SIG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SIG">sign your comments</a> with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Portal:Eifel&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Portal:Eifel (page does not exist)">Portal:Eifel</a> during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Schierbecker" title="User:Schierbecker">Schierbecker</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schierbecker" title="User talk:Schierbecker">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Schierbecker-20240127191700-MfD_nomination_of_Portal:Eifel" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:17, 27 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Schierbecker-20240127191700-MfD_nomination_of_Portal:Eifel"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Schierbecker-20240127191700-MfD_nomination_of_Portal:Eifel"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Need_MGH_help" data-mw-thread-id="h-Need_MGH_help-20240129180500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Need_MGH_help-20240129180500"></span>Need MGH help<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Need_MGH_help-20240129180500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=125" title="Edit section: Need MGH help"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Drmies-20240129180500-Need_MGH_help"></span>Hi Bermicourt--I saw you wrote up that nice MGH template, but I can't really figure out how to use it. Where does <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dmgh.de/mgh_conc_2_1/index.htm#page/(I)/mode/1up">this</a> fit in? I don't see a parameter for Concilia. Is it one of the Rerum Germanicarum series? Honestly, I've never been real fluent with the MGH, haha, and I would appreciate your help--I'm trying to clean up <a href="/wiki/Folcwin" title="Folcwin">Folcwin</a>, and my friend in Germany tells me I should remove the outdated Mansi. Thanks in advance, <a href="/wiki/User:Drmies" title="User:Drmies">Drmies</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Drmies" title="User talk:Drmies">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Drmies-20240129180500-Need_MGH_help" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:05, 29 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Drmies-20240129180500-Need_MGH_help"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Drmies-20240129180500-Need_MGH_help"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-20240129195200-Need_MGH_help"></span>I'm really sorry to announce my retirement, triggered by a few style editors insisting on lower casing game names that are always capitalised in the subject matter texts and not permitting a sensible "both/and" approach as we have done for years with e.g. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ENGVAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ENGVAR">WP:ENGVAR</a>. This is an issue that has hit other projects (e.g. bird names) too. While it may seem a relatively minor issue, it was frustrating to bring articles to a high standard in line with the sources only to see unnecessary and potentially confusing edits being made by editors who didn't always understand the subject matter and the sources behind them. The changes were also introducing unnecessary errors that I was having to clean up. I have better things to do. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-20240129195200-Need_MGH_help" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:52, 29 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-20240129195200-Need_MGH_help"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-20240129195200-Need_MGH_help"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Drmies-20240129200000-Bermicourt-20240129195200"></span>Well, I'm sorry to see you go. Gotta find another way to figure out how to use the template. <a href="/wiki/User:Drmies" title="User:Drmies">Drmies</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Drmies" title="User talk:Drmies">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Drmies-20240129200000-Bermicourt-20240129195200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:00, 29 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Drmies-20240129200000-Bermicourt-20240129195200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Drmies-20240129200000-Bermicourt-20240129195200"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="R_E_T_I_R_E_D" data-mw-thread-id="h-R_E_T_I_R_E_D-20240211091500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-R_E_T_I_R_E_D-20240211091500"></span>R E T I R E D<span data-mw-comment-end="h-R_E_T_I_R_E_D-20240211091500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=126" title="Edit section: R E T I R E D"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-20240211091500-R_E_T_I_R_E_D"></span>Please note that I have retired for the reasons explained on my <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">User page</a>. </p><p>The only exception is that I may occasionally correct glaring factual errors with e.g. card game articles. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-20240211091500-R_E_T_I_R_E_D" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:15, 11 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-20240211091500-R_E_T_I_R_E_D"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-20240211091500-R_E_T_I_R_E_D"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240306143300-Bermicourt-20240211091500"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1257001546"><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);; border-radius:0.5em;"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Yellow_ball_flowers,_levada,_Madeira.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Yellow_ball_flowers%2C_levada%2C_Madeira.jpg/290px-Yellow_ball_flowers%2C_levada%2C_Madeira.jpg" decoding="async" width="290" height="218" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Yellow_ball_flowers%2C_levada%2C_Madeira.jpg/435px-Yellow_ball_flowers%2C_levada%2C_Madeira.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Yellow_ball_flowers%2C_levada%2C_Madeira.jpg/580px-Yellow_ball_flowers%2C_levada%2C_Madeira.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4000" data-file-height="3000"/></a></span></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header"><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Top" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Top">story</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#Music" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">music</a> · <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Places_and_songs_2024#15_Mar" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2024">places</a></th></tr></tbody></table></dd> <dd>yes, I've seen that with sadness, remembering great collaboration over many years, - nonetheless, when seeing that <a href="/wiki/Burg_Eltville" class="mw-redirect" title="Burg Eltville">Burg Eltville</a><span class="noprint" style="font-size:85%; font-style: normal;"> [<a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burg_Eltville" class="extiw" title="de:Burg Eltville">de</a>]</span> has no article here yet, you were the one coming to my mind - perhaps you make an exception on a generous day ;) - I just uploaded two more pics of it, follow "places". <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240306143300-Bermicourt-20240211091500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:33, 6 March 2024 (UTC)</a>--<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240306143300-Bermicourt-20240211091500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240306143300-Bermicourt-20240211091500"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-20240306153700-Gerda_Arendt-20240306143300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a>:</span> for your friendship and collaboration, I've now added the article. Bless you. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Bermicourt-20240306153700-Gerda_Arendt-20240306143300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:37, 6 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-20240306153700-Gerda_Arendt-20240306143300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-20240306153700-Gerda_Arendt-20240306143300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240306160100-Bermicourt-20240306153700"></span>Thank you sooo much! - I'll watch it. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240306160100-Bermicourt-20240306153700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:01, 6 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240306160100-Bermicourt-20240306153700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240306160100-Bermicourt-20240306153700"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240314221000-Bermicourt-20240306153700"></span>Rossini's <a href="/wiki/Petite_messe_solennelle" title="Petite messe solennelle">Petite messe solennelle</a> was <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#14_Mar" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">premiered on 14 March 1864</a>, - when I <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaLcLLvPys8">listen to the desolate Agnus Dei</a> I think of <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vami_IV#Rose_of_missing" title="User talk:Vami IV">Vami_IV</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240314221000-Bermicourt-20240306153700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:10, 14 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240314221000-Bermicourt-20240306153700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240314221000-Bermicourt-20240306153700"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240320164200-Bermicourt-20240306153700"></span>Vacation pics uploaded, at least the first day, - and <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#20_Mar" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Aribert Reimann remembered</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240320164200-Bermicourt-20240306153700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:42, 20 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240320164200-Bermicourt-20240306153700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240320164200-Bermicourt-20240306153700"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240327201400-Bermicourt-20240306153700"></span>Some days later, a calf in the mist and chocolate cake, and <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#27_Mar" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">a story of collaboration</a> in memory --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240327201400-Bermicourt-20240306153700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 27 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240327201400-Bermicourt-20240306153700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240327201400-Bermicourt-20240306153700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_Pages_Patrol_newsletter_April_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_Pages_Patrol_newsletter_April_2024-20240402162700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_Pages_Patrol_newsletter_April_2024-20240402162700"></span>New Pages Patrol newsletter April 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_Pages_Patrol_newsletter_April_2024-20240402162700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit&section=127" title="Edit section: New Pages Patrol newsletter April 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="border:2px solid #90C0FF; background:#F0F0FF; width:99%; padding:4px"> <table style="float: right; border: 1px solid #BBB; background: #FFFFFF;"> <tbody><tr><td></td></tr></tbody></table> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240402162700-New_Pages_Patrol_newsletter_April_2024"></span>Hello Bermicourt, </p> <table style="float: right;"> </table> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:NPP_unreviewed_article_statistics_as_of_April_2,_2024.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/NPP_unreviewed_article_statistics_as_of_April_2%2C_2024.svg/400px-NPP_unreviewed_article_statistics_as_of_April_2%2C_2024.svg.png" decoding="async" width="400" height="249" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/NPP_unreviewed_article_statistics_as_of_April_2%2C_2024.svg/600px-NPP_unreviewed_article_statistics_as_of_April_2%2C_2024.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/NPP_unreviewed_article_statistics_as_of_April_2%2C_2024.svg/800px-NPP_unreviewed_article_statistics_as_of_April_2%2C_2024.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="650" data-file-height="404"/></a><figcaption>New Page Review queue January to March 2024</figcaption></figure> <p><b>Backlog update:</b> The October drive reduced the article backlog from 11,626 to 7,609 and the redirect backlog from 16,985 to 6,431! Congratulations to <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Schminnte">Schminnte</a></span>, who led with over 2,300 points. </p><p>Following that, New Page Patrol organized another backlog drive for articles in January 2024. The January drive started with 13,650 articles and reduced the backlog to 7,430 articles. Congratulations to <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JTtheOG">JTtheOG</a></span>, who achieved first place with 1,340 points in this drive. </p><p>Looking at the graph, it seems like backlog drives are one of the only things keeping the backlog under control. Another backlog drive is being planned for May. Feel free to participate in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:New_pages_patrol/Reviewers#Next_backlog_drive" title="Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers">May backlog drive planning discussion</a>. </p><p>It's worth noting that both queues are gradually increasing again and are nearing 14,034 articles and 22,540 redirects. We encourage you to keep contributing, even if it's just a single patrol per day. Your support is greatly appreciated! </p><p><b>2023 Awards</b> </p> <figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:New_page_reviewer_of_the_year_cup.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/New_page_reviewer_of_the_year_cup.svg/74px-New_page_reviewer_of_the_year_cup.svg.png" decoding="async" width="74" height="70" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/New_page_reviewer_of_the_year_cup.svg/111px-New_page_reviewer_of_the_year_cup.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/New_page_reviewer_of_the_year_cup.svg/148px-New_page_reviewer_of_the_year_cup.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="486"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Onel5969">Onel5969</a></span> won the 2023 cup with 17,761 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 50/day. There was one Platinum Award (10,000+ reviews), 2 Gold Awards (5000+ reviews), 6 Silver (2000+), 8 Bronze (1000+), 30 Iron (360+) and 70 more for the 100+ barnstar. <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hey_man_im_josh">Hey man im josh</a></span> led on redirect reviews by clearing 36,175 of them. For the full details, see the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Awards" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Awards">Awards page</a> and the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Awards#NPP_Hall_of_Fame" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Awards">Hall of Fame</a>. 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