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I wanted to let you know that I declined your <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:G3" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:G3">G3 speedy deletion</a> nomination of the <a href="/w/index.php?title=Le_m%C3%A9tro_de_Tony_Hawk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Le métro de Tony Hawk (page does not exist)">Le métro de Tony Hawk</a> redirect to <i><a href="/wiki/Tony_Hawk%27s_Underground" title="Tony Hawk's Underground">Tony Hawk's Underground</a></i> as the former appears to be the French title of the latter. As such, it is a plausible redirect. If you disagree, you may bring the redirect to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RfD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RfD">redirects for discussion</a> for further input from the community. Thank you! <a href="/wiki/User:Significa_liberdade" title="User:Significa liberdade">Significa liberdade <small>(she/her)</small></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Significa_liberdade" title="User talk:Significa liberdade">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Significa_liberdade-20241008204300-Declined_speedy_deletion:_Le_métro_de_Tony_Hawk" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:43, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Significa_liberdade-20241008204300-Declined_speedy_deletion:_Le_métro_de_Tony_Hawk"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241008204300","author":"Significa liberdade","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Significa_liberdade-20241008204300-Declined_speedy_deletion:_Le_m\u00e9tro_de_Tony_Hawk","replies":[],"displayName":"Significa liberdade (she\/her)"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Significa_liberdade-20241008204300-Declined_speedy_deletion:_Le_métro_de_Tony_Hawk"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Amber_hurt-20241014110100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Decentralized_autonomous_organization:_Revision_history-20241014110100","replies":["c-Amber_hurt-20241014110100-Decentralized_autonomous_organization:_Revision_history"],"text":"Decentralized autonomous organization: Revision history","linkableTitle":"Decentralized autonomous organization: Revision history"}--><h2 id="Decentralized_autonomous_organization:_Revision_history" data-mw-thread-id="h-Decentralized_autonomous_organization:_Revision_history-20241014110100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Decentralized_autonomous_organization:_Revision_history-20241014110100"></span>Decentralized autonomous organization: Revision history<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Decentralized_autonomous_organization:_Revision_history-20241014110100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Belbury&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Decentralized autonomous organization: Revision history"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Amber_hurt-20241014110100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Decentralized_autonomous_organization:_Revision_history-20241014110100","replies":["c-Amber_hurt-20241014110100-Decentralized_autonomous_organization:_Revision_history"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Amber_hurt-20241014124300-Belbury-20241014120700","timestamp":"20241014124300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__11__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Amber_hurt-20241014110100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Decentralized_autonomous_organization:_Revision_history-20241014110100","replies":["c-Amber_hurt-20241014110100-Decentralized_autonomous_organization:_Revision_history"],"text":"Decentralized autonomous organization: Revision history","linkableTitle":"Decentralized autonomous organization: Revision history"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amber_hurt-20241014110100-Decentralized_autonomous_organization:_Revision_history"></span>"Only add names here if the organization has their own article on Wikipedia" 8 from 11 in the list have no own article. Pleas google Lido DAO. reference is following, stop to delete. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Amber_hurt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Amber hurt (page does not exist)">Amber hurt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amber_hurt" title="User talk:Amber hurt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Amber_hurt-20241014110100-Decentralized_autonomous_organization:_Revision_history" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:01, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amber_hurt-20241014110100-Decentralized_autonomous_organization:_Revision_history"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241014110100","author":"Amber hurt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Amber_hurt-20241014110100-Decentralized_autonomous_organization:_Revision_history","replies":["c-Belbury-20241014110700-Amber_hurt-20241014110100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amber_hurt-20241014110100-Decentralized_autonomous_organization:_Revision_history"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Belbury-20241014110700-Amber_hurt-20241014110100"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Amber_hurt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Amber hurt (page does not exist)">Amber hurt</a>: The full quote is <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">Only add names here if the organization has their own article on Wikipedia, or if you can provide an independent, reliable source that establishes its membership in this list's group, please.</q> You need to provide the source rather than telling another Wikipedia editor to use Google.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>If you've checked and you think some other entries don't meet that, by the terms of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a>, by all means remove them. <a href="/wiki/User:Belbury" title="User:Belbury">Belbury</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Belbury-20241014110700-Amber_hurt-20241014110100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:07, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Belbury-20241014110700-Amber_hurt-20241014110100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241014110700","author":"Belbury","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Belbury-20241014110700-Amber_hurt-20241014110100","replies":["c-Amber_hurt-20241014111500-Belbury-20241014110700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Belbury-20241014110700-Amber_hurt-20241014110100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amber_hurt-20241014111500-Belbury-20241014110700"></span>About to add references for Lido: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2024/06/11/lido-introduces-restaking-vaults-in-collaboration-with-symbiotic-mellow-finance/">https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2024/06/11/lido-introduces-restaking-vaults-in-collaboration-with-symbiotic-mellow-finance/</a></dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://cointelegraph.com/learn/what-is-lido-liquidity-for-staked-assets">https://cointelegraph.com/learn/what-is-lido-liquidity-for-staked-assets</a></dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomerniv/2023/08/21/4-liquid-staking-startups-that-are-unlocking-ethereums-potential/">https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomerniv/2023/08/21/4-liquid-staking-startups-that-are-unlocking-ethereums-potential/</a></dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.forbes.com/digital-assets/assets/lido-dao-ldo/">https://www.forbes.com/digital-assets/assets/lido-dao-ldo/</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Amber_hurt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Amber hurt (page does not exist)">Amber hurt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amber_hurt" title="User talk:Amber hurt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Amber_hurt-20241014111500-Belbury-20241014110700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:15, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amber_hurt-20241014111500-Belbury-20241014110700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241014111500","author":"Amber hurt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Amber_hurt-20241014111500-Belbury-20241014110700","replies":["c-Belbury-20241014111800-Amber_hurt-20241014111500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amber_hurt-20241014111500-Belbury-20241014110700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Belbury-20241014111800-Amber_hurt-20241014111500"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Amber_hurt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Amber hurt (page does not exist)">Amber hurt</a>: Thanks but I'm afraid Wikipedia doesn't consider <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COINDESK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COINDESK">WP:COINDESK</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_242#Cointelegraph_source" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 242">Coin Telegraph</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FORBESCON" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FORBESCON">WP:FORBESCON</a> sources to be reliable, and the fourth link there is not strong enough for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a>, being a simple price listing. <a href="/wiki/User:Belbury" title="User:Belbury">Belbury</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Belbury-20241014111800-Amber_hurt-20241014111500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:18, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Belbury-20241014111800-Amber_hurt-20241014111500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241014111800","author":"Belbury","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Belbury-20241014111800-Amber_hurt-20241014111500","replies":["c-Amber_hurt-20241014113100-Belbury-20241014111800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Belbury-20241014111800-Amber_hurt-20241014111500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amber_hurt-20241014113100-Belbury-20241014111800"></span>WP:Reliable sources/Perennial sources is not the only source for reliable sources, its about context, here you have more: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.thecoinrepublic.com/2024/10/12/whales-offloading-lido-dao-as-prices-struggle/">https://www.thecoinrepublic.com/2024/10/12/whales-offloading-lido-dao-as-prices-struggle/</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.securities.io/investing-in-lido-dao/">https://www.securities.io/investing-in-lido-dao/</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://crypto.news/lido-dao-price-gains-amid-market-wide-dips/">https://crypto.news/lido-dao-price-gains-amid-market-wide-dips/</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://cryptoslate.com/aave-dao-evaluates-joining-lido-alliance-to-boost-staked-ethereum-market/">https://cryptoslate.com/aave-dao-evaluates-joining-lido-alliance-to-boost-staked-ethereum-market/</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://ambcrypto.com/lido-dao-ldo-dips-after-sec-goes-after-consensys-for-metamask-services/">https://ambcrypto.com/lido-dao-ldo-dips-after-sec-goes-after-consensys-for-metamask-services/</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.cryptotimes.io/2024/08/12/lido-community-approves-steth-integration-with-bnb-chain/">https://www.cryptotimes.io/2024/08/12/lido-community-approves-steth-integration-with-bnb-chain/</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://dailyhodl.com/2024/06/14/crypto-analyst-says-large-cap-layer-1-altcoin-primed-for-a-breakout-maps-path-forward-for-bitcoin-and-lido-dao/">https://dailyhodl.com/2024/06/14/crypto-analyst-says-large-cap-layer-1-altcoin-primed-for-a-breakout-maps-path-forward-for-bitcoin-and-lido-dao/</a> The point is, there are more then 10 000 articles about Lido DAO, not just a few. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Amber_hurt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Amber hurt (page does not exist)">Amber hurt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amber_hurt" title="User talk:Amber hurt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Amber_hurt-20241014113100-Belbury-20241014111800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:31, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amber_hurt-20241014113100-Belbury-20241014111800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241014113100","author":"Amber hurt","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Amber_hurt-20241014113100-Belbury-20241014111800","replies":["c-Belbury-20241014114600-Amber_hurt-20241014113100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amber_hurt-20241014113100-Belbury-20241014111800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Belbury-20241014114600-Amber_hurt-20241014113100"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Amber_hurt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Amber hurt (page does not exist)">Amber hurt</a>: It's about quality rather than quantity, one reliable source is preferable to 10,000 unreliable ones. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(cryptocurrencies)" title="Wikipedia:Notability (cryptocurrencies)">Wikipedia:Notability (cryptocurrencies)</a> gives a view on crypto news sites. <a href="/wiki/User:Belbury" title="User:Belbury">Belbury</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Belbury-20241014114600-Amber_hurt-20241014113100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:46, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Belbury-20241014114600-Amber_hurt-20241014113100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241014114600","author":"Belbury","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Belbury-20241014114600-Amber_hurt-20241014113100","replies":["c-Amber_hurt-20241014115500-Belbury-20241014114600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Belbury-20241014114600-Amber_hurt-20241014113100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amber_hurt-20241014115500-Belbury-20241014114600"></span>Lido DAO, valued at over $1B with a top 70 utility token, should be added to the list as one of the largest existing DAOs—do you agree? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Amber_hurt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Amber hurt (page does not exist)">Amber hurt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amber_hurt" title="User talk:Amber hurt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Amber_hurt-20241014115500-Belbury-20241014114600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:55, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amber_hurt-20241014115500-Belbury-20241014114600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241014115500","author":"Amber hurt","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Amber_hurt-20241014115500-Belbury-20241014114600","replies":["c-Belbury-20241014115900-Amber_hurt-20241014115500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amber_hurt-20241014115500-Belbury-20241014114600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Belbury-20241014115900-Amber_hurt-20241014115500"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Amber_hurt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Amber hurt (page does not exist)">Amber hurt</a>: Not without a reliable source that's written about it, no, I wouldn't agree.</dd> <dd>Perhaps raise this at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Decentralized_autonomous_organization" title="Talk:Decentralized autonomous organization">Talk:Decentralized autonomous organization</a> for a wider discussion. <a href="/wiki/User:Belbury" title="User:Belbury">Belbury</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Belbury-20241014115900-Amber_hurt-20241014115500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:59, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Belbury-20241014115900-Amber_hurt-20241014115500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241014115900","author":"Belbury","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Belbury-20241014115900-Amber_hurt-20241014115500","replies":["c-Amber_hurt-20241014120500-Belbury-20241014115900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Belbury-20241014115900-Amber_hurt-20241014115500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amber_hurt-20241014120500-Belbury-20241014115900"></span>You wouldn’t agree even if the information I provided is backed by CoinMarketCap and CoinGecko, the two biggest crypto project trackers?</dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/lido-dao/">https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/lido-dao/</a></dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/lido-dao">https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/lido-dao</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Amber_hurt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Amber hurt (page does not exist)">Amber hurt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amber_hurt" title="User talk:Amber hurt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Amber_hurt-20241014120500-Belbury-20241014115900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:05, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amber_hurt-20241014120500-Belbury-20241014115900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241014120500","author":"Amber hurt","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Amber_hurt-20241014120500-Belbury-20241014115900","replies":["c-Belbury-20241014120700-Amber_hurt-20241014120500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amber_hurt-20241014120500-Belbury-20241014115900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Belbury-20241014120700-Amber_hurt-20241014120500"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Amber_hurt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Amber hurt (page does not exist)">Amber hurt</a>: I would not agree that showing an entry on those trackers met <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">has their own article on Wikipedia, or if you can provide an independent, reliable source</q>.</dd> <dd>If you think the criteria for inclusion on the list should be expanded to include "is backed by CoinMarketCap and CoinGecko", you're welcome to suggest that on the article talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:Belbury" title="User:Belbury">Belbury</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Belbury-20241014120700-Amber_hurt-20241014120500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:07, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Belbury-20241014120700-Amber_hurt-20241014120500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241014120700","author":"Belbury","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Belbury-20241014120700-Amber_hurt-20241014120500","replies":["c-Amber_hurt-20241014124300-Belbury-20241014120700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Belbury-20241014120700-Amber_hurt-20241014120500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amber_hurt-20241014124300-Belbury-20241014120700"></span>See Talk:Decentralized autonomous organization <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Amber_hurt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Amber hurt (page does not exist)">Amber hurt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amber_hurt" title="User talk:Amber hurt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Amber_hurt-20241014124300-Belbury-20241014120700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:43, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amber_hurt-20241014124300-Belbury-20241014120700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241014124300","author":"Amber hurt","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Amber_hurt-20241014124300-Belbury-20241014120700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amber_hurt-20241014124300-Belbury-20241014120700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ShawarmaFan07-20241017125900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Source_provided-20241017125900","replies":["c-ShawarmaFan07-20241017125900-Source_provided"],"text":"Source provided","linkableTitle":"Source provided"}--><h2 id="Source_provided" data-mw-thread-id="h-Source_provided-20241017125900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Source_provided-20241017125900"></span>Source provided<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Source_provided-20241017125900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Belbury&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Source provided"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ShawarmaFan07-20241017125900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Source_provided-20241017125900","replies":["c-ShawarmaFan07-20241017125900-Source_provided"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ShawarmaFan07-20241022091500-Belbury-20241018090300","timestamp":"20241022091500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ShawarmaFan07-20241017125900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Source_provided-20241017125900","replies":["c-ShawarmaFan07-20241017125900-Source_provided"],"text":"Source provided","linkableTitle":"Source provided"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ShawarmaFan07-20241017125900-Source_provided"></span>Good afternoon @Belbury, just to let you know, I found a source that states about shawarma generally being Middle Eastern and not just an Arabic dish. As I found one source, please don't report me for edit warring. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:ShawarmaFan07" title="User:ShawarmaFan07">ShawarmaFan07</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ShawarmaFan07" title="User talk:ShawarmaFan07">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-ShawarmaFan07-20241017125900-Source_provided" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ShawarmaFan07-20241017125900-Source_provided"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241017125900","author":"ShawarmaFan07","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ShawarmaFan07-20241017125900-Source_provided","replies":["c-Belbury-20241018090300-ShawarmaFan07-20241017125900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ShawarmaFan07-20241017125900-Source_provided"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Belbury-20241018090300-ShawarmaFan07-20241017125900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:ShawarmaFan07" title="User:ShawarmaFan07">ShawarmaFan07</a>: These are unrelated concepts. If you don't want to be reported for edit warring, don't edit war. <a href="/wiki/User:Belbury" title="User:Belbury">Belbury</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Belbury-20241018090300-ShawarmaFan07-20241017125900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:03, 18 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Belbury-20241018090300-ShawarmaFan07-20241017125900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241018090300","author":"Belbury","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Belbury-20241018090300-ShawarmaFan07-20241017125900","replies":["c-ShawarmaFan07-20241022091500-Belbury-20241018090300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Belbury-20241018090300-ShawarmaFan07-20241017125900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ShawarmaFan07-20241022091500-Belbury-20241018090300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Belbury" title="User:Belbury">Belbury</a> But I found a source that supports the statement that Shawarma is associated with the whole Middle Eastern cuisine, not Arab. Hopefully you won't mind adding it on that article. Plus, I asked for a discussion on the talk page for you guys to explain why it should just be called an "Arab" cuisine, but there had been no response for several days. <a href="/wiki/User:ShawarmaFan07" title="User:ShawarmaFan07">ShawarmaFan07</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ShawarmaFan07" title="User talk:ShawarmaFan07">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-ShawarmaFan07-20241022091500-Belbury-20241018090300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:15, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ShawarmaFan07-20241022091500-Belbury-20241018090300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241022091500","author":"ShawarmaFan07","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ShawarmaFan07-20241022091500-Belbury-20241018090300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ShawarmaFan07-20241022091500-Belbury-20241018090300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Michael.greenacre-20241021181200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-My_edit_of_Principal_Component_Analysis-20241021181200","replies":["c-Michael.greenacre-20241021181200-My_edit_of_Principal_Component_Analysis"],"text":"My edit of Principal Component Analysis","linkableTitle":"My edit of Principal Component Analysis"}--><h2 id="My_edit_of_Principal_Component_Analysis" data-mw-thread-id="h-My_edit_of_Principal_Component_Analysis-20241021181200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-My_edit_of_Principal_Component_Analysis-20241021181200"></span>My edit of Principal Component Analysis<span data-mw-comment-end="h-My_edit_of_Principal_Component_Analysis-20241021181200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Belbury&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: My edit of Principal Component Analysis"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Michael.greenacre-20241021181200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-My_edit_of_Principal_Component_Analysis-20241021181200","replies":["c-Michael.greenacre-20241021181200-My_edit_of_Principal_Component_Analysis"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Belbury-20241022081300-Michael.greenacre-20241022080200","timestamp":"20241022081300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Michael.greenacre-20241021181200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-My_edit_of_Principal_Component_Analysis-20241021181200","replies":["c-Michael.greenacre-20241021181200-My_edit_of_Principal_Component_Analysis"],"text":"My edit of Principal Component Analysis","linkableTitle":"My edit of Principal Component Analysis"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael.greenacre-20241021181200-My_edit_of_Principal_Component_Analysis"></span>Why are you reverting my minor edit on this topic, my simply adding a reference? <a href="/wiki/User:Michael.greenacre" title="User:Michael.greenacre">Michael.greenacre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael.greenacre" title="User talk:Michael.greenacre">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Michael.greenacre-20241021181200-My_edit_of_Principal_Component_Analysis" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:12, 21 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael.greenacre-20241021181200-My_edit_of_Principal_Component_Analysis"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241021181200","author":"Michael.greenacre","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Michael.greenacre-20241021181200-My_edit_of_Principal_Component_Analysis","replies":["c-Belbury-20241021181900-Michael.greenacre-20241021181200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael.greenacre-20241021181200-My_edit_of_Principal_Component_Analysis"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Belbury-20241021181900-Michael.greenacre-20241021181200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Michael.greenacre" title="User:Michael.greenacre">Michael.greenacre</a>: Hi Michael, it's because you're adding references to papers that you wrote yourself, across many articles. I've been posting messages to your talk page at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael.greenacre" title="User talk:Michael.greenacre">User talk:Michael.greenacre</a> about this issue but maybe you haven't been able to see them. <a href="/wiki/User:Belbury" title="User:Belbury">Belbury</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Belbury-20241021181900-Michael.greenacre-20241021181200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:19, 21 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Belbury-20241021181900-Michael.greenacre-20241021181200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241021181900","author":"Belbury","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Belbury-20241021181900-Michael.greenacre-20241021181200","replies":["c-Michael.greenacre-20241022080200-Belbury-20241021181900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Belbury-20241021181900-Michael.greenacre-20241021181200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael.greenacre-20241022080200-Belbury-20241021181900"></span>I did write a note on <b>Talk:Principal Component Analysis </b>justifying my referencing our (6 co-authors) review of Principal Component Analysis published in 2022 by Nature Reviews. Can the reference now be reinstated? <a href="/wiki/User:Michael.greenacre" title="User:Michael.greenacre">Michael.greenacre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael.greenacre" title="User talk:Michael.greenacre">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Michael.greenacre-20241022080200-Belbury-20241021181900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:02, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael.greenacre-20241022080200-Belbury-20241021181900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241022080200","author":"Michael.greenacre","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Michael.greenacre-20241022080200-Belbury-20241021181900","replies":["c-Belbury-20241022081300-Michael.greenacre-20241022080200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael.greenacre-20241022080200-Belbury-20241021181900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Belbury-20241022081300-Michael.greenacre-20241022080200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Michael.greenacre" title="User:Michael.greenacre">Michael.greenacre</a>: Thanks. Whether it gets added is up to the editors who read that talk page. If you add the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Edit_coi" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Edit coi">edit coi</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template and write a specific edit request (eg. saying exactly where in the article you want the link added), the request will be put in a queue that other editors will check in on. <a href="/wiki/User:Belbury" title="User:Belbury">Belbury</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Belbury-20241022081300-Michael.greenacre-20241022080200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:13, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Belbury-20241022081300-Michael.greenacre-20241022080200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241022081300","author":"Belbury","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Belbury-20241022081300-Michael.greenacre-20241022080200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Belbury-20241022081300-Michael.greenacre-20241022080200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Gert7-20241029162000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-My_edit_of_Golden_hour_(photography)-20241029162000","replies":["c-Gert7-20241029162000-My_edit_of_Golden_hour_(photography)"],"text":"My edit of Golden hour (photography)","linkableTitle":"My edit of Golden hour (photography)"}--><h2 id="My_edit_of_Golden_hour_(photography)" data-mw-thread-id="h-My_edit_of_Golden_hour_(photography)-20241029162000"><span id="My_edit_of_Golden_hour_.28photography.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-My_edit_of_Golden_hour_(photography)-20241029162000"></span>My edit of Golden hour (photography)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-My_edit_of_Golden_hour_(photography)-20241029162000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Belbury&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: My edit of Golden hour (photography)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Gert7-20241029162000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-My_edit_of_Golden_hour_(photography)-20241029162000","replies":["c-Gert7-20241029162000-My_edit_of_Golden_hour_(photography)"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Belbury-20241029162500-Gert7-20241029162000","timestamp":"20241029162500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Gert7-20241029162000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-My_edit_of_Golden_hour_(photography)-20241029162000","replies":["c-Gert7-20241029162000-My_edit_of_Golden_hour_(photography)"],"text":"My edit of Golden hour (photography)","linkableTitle":"My edit of Golden hour (photography)"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gert7-20241029162000-My_edit_of_Golden_hour_(photography)"></span>I don't think a period directly after an image tag is necessary or intentional, as it leaves a blank line right after a section heading. --Gert7 (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gert7" title="User talk:Gert7">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Gert7" title="Special:Contributions/Gert7">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Gert7-20241029162000-My_edit_of_Golden_hour_(photography)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:20, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gert7-20241029162000-My_edit_of_Golden_hour_(photography)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241029162000","author":"Gert7","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gert7-20241029162000-My_edit_of_Golden_hour_(photography)","replies":["c-Belbury-20241029162500-Gert7-20241029162000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gert7-20241029162000-My_edit_of_Golden_hour_(photography)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Belbury-20241029162500-Gert7-20241029162000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Gert7" title="User:Gert7">Gert7</a>: Quite right, my mistake! From the edit diff I misread it as being after a wikilink rather than an image tag. I've reverted myself. <a href="/wiki/User:Belbury" title="User:Belbury">Belbury</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Belbury-20241029162500-Gert7-20241029162000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Belbury-20241029162500-Gert7-20241029162000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241029162500","author":"Belbury","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Belbury-20241029162500-Gert7-20241029162000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Belbury-20241029162500-Gert7-20241029162000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nanb500001-20241030081300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Starter_editor_have_a_question-20241030081300","replies":["c-Nanb500001-20241030081300-Starter_editor_have_a_question"],"text":"Starter editor have a question","linkableTitle":"Starter editor have a question"}--><h2 id="Starter_editor_have_a_question" data-mw-thread-id="h-Starter_editor_have_a_question-20241030081300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Starter_editor_have_a_question-20241030081300"></span>Starter editor have a question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Starter_editor_have_a_question-20241030081300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Belbury&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Starter editor have a question"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nanb500001-20241030081300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Starter_editor_have_a_question-20241030081300","replies":["c-Nanb500001-20241030081300-Starter_editor_have_a_question"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Belbury-20241030085900-Nanb500001-20241030081300","timestamp":"20241030085900"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nanb500001-20241030081300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Starter_editor_have_a_question-20241030081300","replies":["c-Nanb500001-20241030081300-Starter_editor_have_a_question"],"text":"Starter editor have a question","linkableTitle":"Starter editor have a question"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nanb500001-20241030081300-Starter_editor_have_a_question"></span>Hi, </p><p>I’m a starter editor. I understand what a reliable source is but the game I write on my article does not have an official website. The only way I can get references is through user generated content like a fandom wiki article. How can I get a reliable source without an official website. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Nanb500001&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Nanb500001 (page does not exist)">Nanb500001</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nanb500001" title="User talk:Nanb500001">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Nanb500001-20241030081300-Starter_editor_have_a_question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:13, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nanb500001-20241030081300-Starter_editor_have_a_question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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The fact was <i>... that several major U.S. politicians have spread <b><a href="/wiki/Conspiracy_theories_about_the_2024_Atlantic_hurricane_season" title="Conspiracy theories about the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season">conspiracy theories about the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season</a></b>?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Conspiracy_theories_about_the_2024_Atlantic_hurricane_season" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Conspiracy theories about the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season">Template:Did you know nominations/Conspiracy theories about the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season</a>. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2024-10-28&end=2024-11-17&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Conspiracy_theories_about_the_2024_Atlantic_hurricane_season">Conspiracy theories about the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season</a>)</small>, and the hook may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics/Monthly_DYK_pageview_leaders" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics/Monthly DYK pageview leaders">the statistics page</a> after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div><p> — <a href="/wiki/User:Crisco_1492" title="User:Crisco 1492">Chris Woodrich</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Crisco_1492" title="User talk:Crisco 1492">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Crisco_1492-20241107000400-DYK_for_Conspiracy_theories_about_the_2024_Atlantic_hurricane_season" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:04, 7 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Crisco_1492-20241107000400-DYK_for_Conspiracy_theories_about_the_2024_Atlantic_hurricane_season"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-thread-id="h-Proposed_deletion_of_File:YouTube_front_page.jpg-20241114193800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proposed_deletion_of_File:YouTube_front_page.jpg-20241114193800"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Proposed deletion">Proposed deletion</a> of <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:YouTube_front_page.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:YouTube front page.jpg (page does not exist)">File:YouTube front page.jpg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proposed_deletion_of_File:YouTube_front_page.jpg-20241114193800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Belbury&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Proposed deletion of File:YouTube front page.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span 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href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Proposed deletion">proposed for deletion</a> because of the following concern: </p> <blockquote><p><b>Borderline G4, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion/2023_September_3#File:YouTube_homepage.png" title="Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2023 September 3">Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion/2023_September_3#File:YouTube_homepage.png</a></b></p></blockquote> <p>While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DEL#REASON" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DEL">deleted for any of several reasons</a>. </p><p>You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the <span class="nowrap"><code>{{proposed deletion/dated files}}</code></span> notice, but please explain why in your <a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_summary" title="Help:Edit summary">edit summary</a> or on <a href="/w/index.php?title=File_talk:YouTube_front_page.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File 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Removing <span class="nowrap"><code>{{proposed deletion/dated files}}</code></span> will stop the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Proposed deletion">proposed deletion process</a>, but other <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process">deletion processes</a> exist. In particular, the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">speedy deletion</a> process can result in deletion without discussion, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Files for discussion">files for discussion</a> allows discussion to reach <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a> for deletion. —<b><a href="/wiki/User:Matrix" title="User:Matrix">Matrix</a>(!)</b> <sub>ping one</sub><sup>when replying</sup> {<i><a href="/wiki/User:Matrix" title="User:Matrix">u</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matrix" title="User talk:Matrix">t?</a> - <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Matrix" title="Special:Contributions/Matrix"><sub><small><s>useless</s></small></sub>c</a></i>} <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Matrix-20241114193800-Proposed_deletion_of_File:YouTube_front_page.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:38, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matrix-20241114193800-Proposed_deletion_of_File:YouTube_front_page.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241114193800","author":"Matrix","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Matrix-20241114193800-Proposed_deletion_of_File:YouTube_front_page.jpg","replies":[],"displayName":"u"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matrix-20241114193800-Proposed_deletion_of_File:YouTube_front_page.jpg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-JacktheBrown-20241116155900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Cappuccino;_[1]-20241116155900","replies":["c-JacktheBrown-20241116155900-Cappuccino;_[1]"],"text":"Cappuccino; [1]","linkableTitle":"Cappuccino; [1]"}--><h2 id="Cappuccino;_[1]" data-mw-thread-id="h-Cappuccino;_[1]-20241116155900"><span id="Cappuccino.3B_.5B1.5D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Cappuccino;_[1]-20241116155900"></span><a href="/wiki/Cappuccino" title="Cappuccino">Cappuccino</a>; <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cappuccino&diff=prev&oldid=1257772741">[1]</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Cappuccino;_[1]-20241116155900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Belbury&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Cappuccino; [1]"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-JacktheBrown-20241116155900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Cappuccino;_[1]-20241116155900","replies":["c-JacktheBrown-20241116155900-Cappuccino;_[1]"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JacktheBrown-20241116155900-Cappuccino;_[1]","timestamp":"20241116155900"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-JacktheBrown-20241116155900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Cappuccino;_[1]-20241116155900","replies":["c-JacktheBrown-20241116155900-Cappuccino;_[1]"],"text":"Cappuccino; [1]","linkableTitle":"Cappuccino; [1]"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JacktheBrown-20241116155900-Cappuccino;_[1]"></span>Hi. This image, which was already in the article, is the best and has no latte art; have we solved it? <a href="/wiki/User:JacktheBrown" title="User:JacktheBrown">JacktheBrown</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JacktheBrown" title="User talk:JacktheBrown">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-JacktheBrown-20241116155900-Cappuccino;_[1]" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:59, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JacktheBrown-20241116155900-Cappuccino;_[1]"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241116155900","author":"JacktheBrown","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JacktheBrown-20241116155900-Cappuccino;_[1]","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JacktheBrown-20241116155900-Cappuccino;_[1]"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-73.218.17.248-20241121020500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-nbnw.org-20241121020500","replies":["c-73.218.17.248-20241121020500-nbnw.org"],"text":"nbnw.org","linkableTitle":"nbnw.org"}--><h2 id="nbnw.org" data-mw-thread-id="h-nbnw.org-20241121020500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-nbnw.org-20241121020500"></span>nbnw.org<span data-mw-comment-end="h-nbnw.org-20241121020500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Belbury&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: nbnw.org"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-73.218.17.248-20241121020500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-nbnw.org-20241121020500","replies":["c-73.218.17.248-20241121020500-nbnw.org"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-73.218.17.248-20241122030400-Belbury-20241121101300","timestamp":"20241122030400"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-73.218.17.248-20241121020500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-nbnw.org-20241121020500","replies":["c-73.218.17.248-20241121020500-nbnw.org"],"text":"nbnw.org","linkableTitle":"nbnw.org"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-73.218.17.248-20241121020500-nbnw.org"></span>I did not add the nbnw.org citation at <a href="/wiki/Costume_party" title="Costume party">costume party</a>, I just moved it. My question is, why do you call it spam in your edit summary? I cannot find any discussion on it via <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> nor the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS/P" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS/P">accompanying list</a>. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/73.218.17.248" title="Special:Contributions/73.218.17.248">73.218.17.248</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:73.218.17.248&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:73.218.17.248 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-73.218.17.248-20241121020500-nbnw.org" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:05, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-73.218.17.248-20241121020500-nbnw.org"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241121020500","author":"73.218.17.248","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-73.218.17.248-20241121020500-nbnw.org","replies":["c-Belbury-20241121101300-73.218.17.248-20241121020500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-73.218.17.248-20241121020500-nbnw.org"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Belbury-20241121101300-73.218.17.248-20241121020500"></span>Hi, it was part of a cleanup of a domain that's been spammed across articles recently, and now blacklisted from Wikipedia. See <a href="/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#nbnw.org" title="MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist">MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist#nbnw.org</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Belbury" title="User:Belbury">Belbury</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Belbury-20241121101300-73.218.17.248-20241121020500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Belbury-20241121101300-73.218.17.248-20241121020500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241121101300","author":"Belbury","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Belbury-20241121101300-73.218.17.248-20241121020500","replies":["c-73.218.17.248-20241122030400-Belbury-20241121101300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Belbury-20241121101300-73.218.17.248-20241121020500"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-73.218.17.248-20241122030400-Belbury-20241121101300"></span>Awesome, thank you for the link. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/73.218.17.248" title="Special:Contributions/73.218.17.248">73.218.17.248</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:73.218.17.248&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:73.218.17.248 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-73.218.17.248-20241122030400-Belbury-20241121101300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-73.218.17.248-20241122030400-Belbury-20241121101300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241122030400","author":"73.218.17.248","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-73.218.17.248-20241122030400-Belbury-20241121101300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-73.218.17.248-20241122030400-Belbury-20241121101300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124111700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vital_question-20241124111700","replies":["c-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124111700-Vital_question"],"text":"Vital question","linkableTitle":"Vital question"}--><h2 id="Vital_question" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vital_question-20241124111700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vital_question-20241124111700"></span>Vital question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vital_question-20241124111700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Belbury&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Vital question"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124111700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vital_question-20241124111700","replies":["c-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124111700-Vital_question"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-PlatinumClipper96-20241124180100-Belbury-20241124125800","timestamp":"20241124180100"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124111700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vital_question-20241124111700","replies":["c-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124111700-Vital_question"],"text":"Vital question","linkableTitle":"Vital question"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124111700-Vital_question"></span>What does <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLOCKEVASION" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLOCKEVASION">BLOCKEVASION</a> mean exactly? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867" title="Special:Contributions/2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867">2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124111700-Vital_question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:17, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124111700-Vital_question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241124111700","author":"2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124111700-Vital_question","replies":["c-Belbury-20241124114600-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124111700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124111700-Vital_question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Belbury-20241124114600-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124111700"></span>Hi there! In this case it means that a number of edits have matched those made in the past by a blocked user, giving the appearance that that user is trying to evade their block. <a href="/wiki/User:Belbury" title="User:Belbury">Belbury</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Belbury-20241124114600-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124111700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:46, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Belbury-20241124114600-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124111700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241124114600","author":"Belbury","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Belbury-20241124114600-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124111700","replies":["c-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124121200-Belbury-20241124114600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Belbury-20241124114600-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124111700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124121200-Belbury-20241124114600"></span>Thank you. I'm not a banned user but I will watch out for this in the near future. Can I still edit? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867" title="Special:Contributions/2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867">2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124121200-Belbury-20241124114600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:12, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124121200-Belbury-20241124114600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241124121200","author":"2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124121200-Belbury-20241124114600","replies":["c-Belbury-20241124125800-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124121200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124121200-Belbury-20241124114600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Belbury-20241124125800-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124121200"></span>If you're neither evading a block, editing at the direction of a blocked user nor restoring old edits by a blocked user, sure. <a href="/wiki/User:Belbury" title="User:Belbury">Belbury</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Belbury-20241124125800-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124121200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:58, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Belbury-20241124125800-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124121200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241124125800","author":"Belbury","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Belbury-20241124125800-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124121200","replies":["c-PlatinumClipper96-20241124180100-Belbury-20241124125800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Belbury-20241124125800-2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867-20241124121200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PlatinumClipper96-20241124180100-Belbury-20241124125800"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Belbury" title="User:Belbury">Belbury</a> - I suspect this IP is ShawarmaFan07, and appears to be within the same range as this user's other IP socks from what I understand. Will flag this on the ANI discussion. <a href="/wiki/User:PlatinumClipper96" title="User:PlatinumClipper96">PlatinumClipper96</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PlatinumClipper96" title="User talk:PlatinumClipper96">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-PlatinumClipper96-20241124180100-Belbury-20241124125800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:01, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PlatinumClipper96-20241124180100-Belbury-20241124125800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241124180100","author":"PlatinumClipper96","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-PlatinumClipper96-20241124180100-Belbury-20241124125800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PlatinumClipper96-20241124180100-Belbury-20241124125800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ShawarmaFan07-20241124130600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Idioms-20241124130600","replies":["c-ShawarmaFan07-20241124130600-Idioms"],"text":"Idioms","linkableTitle":"Idioms"}--><h2 id="Idioms" data-mw-thread-id="h-Idioms-20241124130600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Idioms-20241124130600"></span>Idioms<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Idioms-20241124130600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Belbury&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Idioms"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ShawarmaFan07-20241124130600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Idioms-20241124130600","replies":["c-ShawarmaFan07-20241124130600-Idioms"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Belbury-20241124151800-ShawarmaFan07-20241124141500","timestamp":"20241124151800"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ShawarmaFan07-20241124130600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Idioms-20241124130600","replies":["c-ShawarmaFan07-20241124130600-Idioms"],"text":"Idioms","linkableTitle":"Idioms"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ShawarmaFan07-20241124130600-Idioms"></span>Why should we need the idiom cite? The source said it, so I do not think it's necessary. Also, please read sources carefully before you assume that the information is, well, 'non-existent' and reverting. <a href="/wiki/User:ShawarmaFan07" title="User:ShawarmaFan07">ShawarmaFan07</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ShawarmaFan07" title="User talk:ShawarmaFan07">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-ShawarmaFan07-20241124130600-Idioms" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:06, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ShawarmaFan07-20241124130600-Idioms"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241124130600","author":"ShawarmaFan07","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ShawarmaFan07-20241124130600-Idioms","replies":["c-Belbury-20241124130800-ShawarmaFan07-20241124130600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ShawarmaFan07-20241124130600-Idioms"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Belbury-20241124130800-ShawarmaFan07-20241124130600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:ShawarmaFan07" title="User:ShawarmaFan07">ShawarmaFan07</a>: See <a href="/wiki/MOS:IDIOM" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:IDIOM">MOS:IDIOM</a>, Wikipedia does not use idioms like someone having "one foot" in a place. Non-fluent readers won't know what it means, and I'm not completely sure myself what the sentence is trying to say. I'm not restoring the template because the information is "non-existent", I'm restoring it because the sentence uses an idiom when it shouldn't.</dd> <dd>It needs to be rewritten in plain English or attributed as a quotation. <a href="/wiki/User:Belbury" title="User:Belbury">Belbury</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Belbury-20241124130800-ShawarmaFan07-20241124130600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:08, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Belbury-20241124130800-ShawarmaFan07-20241124130600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241124130800","author":"Belbury","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Belbury-20241124130800-ShawarmaFan07-20241124130600","replies":["c-ShawarmaFan07-20241124141500-Belbury-20241124130800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Belbury-20241124130800-ShawarmaFan07-20241124130600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ShawarmaFan07-20241124141500-Belbury-20241124130800"></span>It supposed mean that Al-Maleki was squeezed between <a href="/wiki/Westernization" title="Westernization">Western</a>, <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">American</a> culture and culture from rural <a href="/wiki/Middle_East" title="Middle East">Middle East</a>. In fact I originally said "clashed", but for some reason you deleted that, and when I reverted it back, I had to include this idiom because you will (as usual) nag at me for "not exactly matching the words with source". <a href="/wiki/User:ShawarmaFan07" title="User:ShawarmaFan07">ShawarmaFan07</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ShawarmaFan07" title="User talk:ShawarmaFan07">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-ShawarmaFan07-20241124141500-Belbury-20241124130800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:15, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ShawarmaFan07-20241124141500-Belbury-20241124130800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241124141500","author":"ShawarmaFan07","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ShawarmaFan07-20241124141500-Belbury-20241124130800","replies":["c-Belbury-20241124151800-ShawarmaFan07-20241124141500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ShawarmaFan07-20241124141500-Belbury-20241124130800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Belbury-20241124151800-ShawarmaFan07-20241124141500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:ShawarmaFan07" title="User:ShawarmaFan07">ShawarmaFan07</a>: Saying that a person was "squeezed" or "clashed" between two cultures still isn't very clear, and risks implying that there was unwanted social pressure from her American friends, which doesn't sound like it was necessarily the case. I've rewritten it to be closer to the specifics given in the sources, that she <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">had assimilated into American culture, but considered herself Muslim and was fluent in Arabic</q>. <a href="/wiki/User:Belbury" title="User:Belbury">Belbury</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Belbury-20241124151800-ShawarmaFan07-20241124141500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:18, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Belbury-20241124151800-ShawarmaFan07-20241124141500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241124151800","author":"Belbury","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Belbury-20241124151800-ShawarmaFan07-20241124141500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Belbury-20241124151800-ShawarmaFan07-20241124141500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241125152000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Thank_you,_and_I_am_sorry!-20241125152000","replies":["c-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241125152000-Thank_you,_and_I_am_sorry!"],"text":"Thank you, and I am sorry!","linkableTitle":"Thank you, and I am sorry!"}--><h2 id="Thank_you,_and_I_am_sorry!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thank_you,_and_I_am_sorry!-20241125152000"><span id="Thank_you.2C_and_I_am_sorry.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thank_you,_and_I_am_sorry!-20241125152000"></span>Thank you, and I am sorry!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thank_you,_and_I_am_sorry!-20241125152000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Belbury&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Thank you, and I am sorry!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241125152000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Thank_you,_and_I_am_sorry!-20241125152000","replies":["c-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241125152000-Thank_you,_and_I_am_sorry!"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Belbury-20241125152100-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241125152000","timestamp":"20241125152100"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241125152000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Thank_you,_and_I_am_sorry!-20241125152000","replies":["c-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241125152000-Thank_you,_and_I_am_sorry!"],"text":"Thank you, and I am sorry!","linkableTitle":"Thank you, and I am sorry!"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241125152000-Thank_you,_and_I_am_sorry!"></span>I hope I have communicated through my contributions at this point that when I say that "I am sorry", I really mean that it won't happen again. I am beyond thankful for your advice and guidance! <a href="/wiki/User:Luke_Elaine_Burke" title="User:Luke Elaine Burke">Luke Elaine Burke</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Luke_Elaine_Burke" title="User talk:Luke Elaine Burke">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241125152000-Thank_you,_and_I_am_sorry!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:20, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241125152000-Thank_you,_and_I_am_sorry!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241125152000","author":"Luke Elaine Burke","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241125152000-Thank_you,_and_I_am_sorry!","replies":["c-Belbury-20241125152100-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241125152000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241125152000-Thank_you,_and_I_am_sorry!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Belbury-20241125152100-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241125152000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Luke_Elaine_Burke" title="User:Luke Elaine Burke">Luke Elaine Burke</a>:</span> Absolutely fine, no harm done! I assumed it was a test edit made in error, but if you were trying to fix something in particular and need any help with that, let me know. --<a href="/wiki/User:Belbury" title="User:Belbury">Belbury</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Belbury-20241125152100-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241125152000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:21, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Belbury-20241125152100-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241125152000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241125152100","author":"Belbury","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Belbury-20241125152100-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241125152000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Belbury-20241125152100-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241125152000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241126040000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Bookmarks-20241126040000","replies":["c-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241126040000-Bookmarks"],"text":"Bookmarks","linkableTitle":"Bookmarks"}--><h2 id="Bookmarks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bookmarks-20241126040000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bookmarks-20241126040000"></span>Bookmarks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bookmarks-20241126040000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Belbury&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Bookmarks"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241126040000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Bookmarks-20241126040000","replies":["c-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241126040000-Bookmarks"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241126040000-Bookmarks","timestamp":"20241126040000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241126040000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Bookmarks-20241126040000","replies":["c-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241126040000-Bookmarks"],"text":"Bookmarks","linkableTitle":"Bookmarks"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241126040000-Bookmarks"></span>All of your bookmarks are extremely valuable and appreciated. Your photography is also incredible and inspiring. </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="box-Notice plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Face-smile.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Notice"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/30px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/45px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/60px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text" style="text-align: left;"><div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><big><b>Someone has poured you <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:A_nice_cup_of_tea_and_a_sit_down#November_2024" title="Wikipedia:A nice cup of tea and a sit down">tea</a>.</b></big></div></td></tr></tbody></table> <p><br/> Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Luke_Elaine_Burke" title="User:Luke Elaine Burke">Luke Elaine Burke</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Luke_Elaine_Burke" title="User talk:Luke Elaine Burke">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241126040000-Bookmarks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:00, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241126040000-Bookmarks"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241126040000","author":"Luke Elaine Burke","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241126040000-Bookmarks","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Luke_Elaine_Burke-20241126040000-Bookmarks"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Eseahfs-20241129045600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-List_of_Glassware-20241129045600","replies":["c-Eseahfs-20241129045600-List_of_Glassware"],"text":"List of Glassware","linkableTitle":"List of Glassware"}--><h2 id="List_of_Glassware" data-mw-thread-id="h-List_of_Glassware-20241129045600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-List_of_Glassware-20241129045600"></span>List of Glassware<span data-mw-comment-end="h-List_of_Glassware-20241129045600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Belbury&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: List of Glassware"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Eseahfs-20241129045600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-List_of_Glassware-20241129045600","replies":["c-Eseahfs-20241129045600-List_of_Glassware"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Belbury-20241129091800-Eseahfs-20241129045600","timestamp":"20241129091800"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Eseahfs-20241129045600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-List_of_Glassware-20241129045600","replies":["c-Eseahfs-20241129045600-List_of_Glassware"],"text":"List of Glassware","linkableTitle":"List of Glassware"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eseahfs-20241129045600-List_of_Glassware"></span>Hello Belbury, </p><p>Below are some of the references cited and of course, undone. Could you help me understand how these linked references do not exist or presumably qualify as independent third-party secondary sources. </p> <ol><li><b>The Straits Times, National newspapers of Singapore:</b> Chinnuswamy, Yamini (8 December 2022). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.straitstimes.com/life/food/top-tipples-whisky-crystalware-dom-perignon-s-new-pairing-menu-festive-cocktails">Top Tipples: Whisky crystalware, Dom Perignon's new pairing menu, festive cocktails</a>. The Straits Times. Singapore Press Holdings.</li> <li><b>Robb Report, International magazine:</b> Choo, Justin. January 11, 2023. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.robbreport.com.sg/the-lucaris-gran-collection-will-change-the-way-you-drink-whisky/">The Lucaris Gràn Collection will change the way you drink whisky</a>. Robb Report.</li> <li><b>APAC magazine on beverage industry:</b> Graham, Holly (November 18, 2021) <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.drinkmagazine.asia/2021/11/18/singapore-whisky-expert-creates-whisky-tasting-glasses-with-lucaris/">Singapore whisky expert creates whisky tasting glasses with Lucaris</a>. Drink Magazine.</li> <li><b>Notable third-party drink writer in Singapore:</b> Goh, Daniel (February 19, 2022) <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.spiritedsingapore.com/2022/02/lucaris-the-gran-collection/">Reviewed: Lucaris The Gràn Collection is a grand way to taste whisky</a>. Spirited Singapore.</li> <li><b>Notable whisky writer in Hong Kong</b> Eber, Martin (November 3, 2022) <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.timeforwhisky.com/2021/11/style-specific-whisky-glasses-why-not.html">Style-specific Whisky glasses? Why not!? A review of Lucaris' new "Gràn Collection"</a>. Time For Whisky.</li> <li><b>iF Design Award 2021 - Household / Tableware</b>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://ifdesign.com/en/winner-ranking/project/gran-whisky-glass-collection/313324">Gràn Whisky Glass Collection</a>. iF Design.</li> <li><b>Tableware International Awards 2022</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://tablewareinternational.com/2022/04/01/ocean-glass-is-the-winner-of-the-fine-glassware-category-with-the-gran-collection/">Ocean Glass is the winner of the Fine Glassware category with The GRAN Collection</a>. Tableware International.</li></ol> <p>Can you help me relook into the deletion? I have edited based on facts, and all editions were duly referenced: </p> <ol><li>The glassware is a new / different shape and form.</li> <li>Language used is neutral and non-promotional. No laudatory term was used. I was extremely cautious about this.</li> <li>Sources / references cited are third-party, credible and independent - It has received third-party acknowledgement by iF award and Tableware award for its different bowl and mouth sizes, and usage, and covered by reputable publications.</li></ol> <p>I noted on conflict of interest. So, do I file in <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_conflict_of_interest_edit_requests" title="Category:Wikipedia conflict of interest edit requests">Category:Wikipedia conflict of interest edit requests</a> and the COI template as the glassware is designed by my husband? <a href="/wiki/User:Eseahfs" title="User:Eseahfs">Eseahfs</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eseahfs" title="User talk:Eseahfs">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Belbury#c-Eseahfs-20241129045600-List_of_Glassware" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:56, 29 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eseahfs-20241129045600-List_of_Glassware"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241129045600","author":"Eseahfs","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Eseahfs-20241129045600-List_of_Glassware","replies":["c-Belbury-20241129091800-Eseahfs-20241129045600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eseahfs-20241129045600-List_of_Glassware"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Belbury-20241129091800-Eseahfs-20241129045600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Eseahfs" title="User:Eseahfs">Eseahfs</a>: Hi. The <a href="/wiki/List_of_glassware" title="List of glassware">List of glassware</a> article is a list of classic examples of like <a href="/wiki/Wine_glass" title="Wine glass">wine glass</a> and <a href="/wiki/Tankard" title="Tankard">tankard</a>, I don't see that it needs a particular subdesign of whisky glass that someone started selling last month. There are hundreds of such products. 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