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Consensus cannot mean ‘in denial’ <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:GAAEditorIE&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:GAAEditorIE (page does not exist)">GAAEditorIE</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GAAEditorIE" title="User talk:GAAEditorIE">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Spleodrach#c-GAAEditorIE-20241007194900-Consensus_vs_facts" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:49, 7 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GAAEditorIE-20241007194900-Consensus_vs_facts"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GAAEditorIE-20241007194900-Consensus_vs_facts"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spleodrach-20241007214200-GAAEditorIE-20241007194900"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:GAAEditorIE&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:GAAEditorIE (page does not exist)">GAAEditorIE</a>:</span> The issue has been discussed many times before but it you want to open a new discussion, please do so at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:IE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:IE">WT:IE</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Spleodrach" title="User:Spleodrach">Spleodrach</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Spleodrach#c-Spleodrach-20241007214200-GAAEditorIE-20241007194900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:42, 7 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spleodrach-20241007214200-GAAEditorIE-20241007194900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spleodrach-20241007214200-GAAEditorIE-20241007194900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jacobfrid-20241011084600-GAAEditorIE-20241007194900"></span>In addition to Spleodrach's point about discussions on WT:IE, I also refer you to the FAQ "What is the status of County Dublin?" heading on the <a href="/wiki/Talk:County_Dublin" title="Talk:County Dublin">Talk:County Dublin</a> page. This issue has been discussed there at least 8 times and the current framing is what has been agreed. (ie that Dublin is a current cultural / colloquial county that retains limited official use rather than strictly being a former legal county). <a href="/wiki/User:Jacobfrid" title="User:Jacobfrid">Jacobfrid</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jacobfrid" title="User talk:Jacobfrid">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Spleodrach#c-Jacobfrid-20241011084600-GAAEditorIE-20241007194900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:46, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jacobfrid-20241011084600-GAAEditorIE-20241007194900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jacobfrid-20241011084600-GAAEditorIE-20241007194900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GAAEditorIE-20241113192000-Jacobfrid-20241011084600"></span>Thank you for your help <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:GAAEditorIE&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:GAAEditorIE (page does not exist)">GAAEditorIE</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GAAEditorIE" title="User talk:GAAEditorIE">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Spleodrach#c-GAAEditorIE-20241113192000-Jacobfrid-20241011084600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GAAEditorIE-20241113192000-Jacobfrid-20241011084600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GAAEditorIE-20241113192000-Jacobfrid-20241011084600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research" data-mw-thread-id="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192800"></span>Invitation to participate in a research<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Spleodrach&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Invitation to participate in a research"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192800-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research"></span>Hello, </p><p>The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a survey of Wikipedians to better understand what draws administrators to contribute to Wikipedia, and what affects administrator retention. 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FYI, the account who added the speculative information to <a href="/wiki/2025_Irish_presidential_election" class="mw-redirect" title="2025 Irish presidential election">2025 Irish presidential election</a> has <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Cartoons2022" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Cartoons2022">been confirmed</a> as that recurring sockpuppet account. Looks like we're going to have to remain on alert for their edits and new accounts. <a href="/wiki/User:Iveagh_Gardens" title="User:Iveagh Gardens">Iveagh Gardens</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iveagh_Gardens" title="User talk:Iveagh Gardens">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Spleodrach#c-Iveagh_Gardens-20241107084400-Sockpuppet_alert" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:44, 7 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iveagh_Gardens-20241107084400-Sockpuppet_alert"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iveagh_Gardens-20241107084400-Sockpuppet_alert"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spleodrach-20241107180000-Iveagh_Gardens-20241107084400"></span>Thanks for the info. 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