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Harris’ article was profoundly misleading in numerous respects and I immediately wrote a response which was submitted to the editor of the Post on 9 November. To that email I have received no reply. This concerns me as The Dominion Post is not only publishing very one-sided coverage of the conflict but intentionally not publishing responses to that material or alternate points of view.</p> <p>My response is below. I invite the reader to judge for yourselves whether in the interests of balance it ought to have been published. Harris’ article by the way is here: <a href="https://www.thepost.co.nz/nz-news/360476520/glimpse-life-lebanon-and-what-more-nz-should-do">https://www.thepost.co.nz/nz-news/360476520/glimpse-life-lebanon-and-what-more-nz-should-do</a></p> <p><em>The Israel – Lebanon conflict is far more complex than Max Harris acknowledges</em></p> <p>By Lucy Rogers</p> <p>In Max Harris’ recent opinion item <em>A glimpse of life in Lebanon, and what more NZ should do</em> a number of criticisms were made of Israel. While I am also critical of Israel’s conduct of the war in Gaza, to my mind his article omits some important facts and necessitates a response. </p> <p>Harris says: “In September Israel launched a series of heavy air attacks on Lebanon, following almost a year of sustained and widespread bombardments of Gaza. Then, on 1 October, Israel initiated a ground invasion of Lebanon.” He concedes that this was in response to “rockets fired into Israel” by Hezbollah. However, the only target he identifies is the Shebaa Farms, stating that it was “land held by Israel under military occupation that Israel annexed in 1981, but considered part of South Lebanon by Lebanon.”</p> <p>One might be forgiven on Harris’ account in mistaking Hezbollah for a legitimate organisation which abides by humanitarian law and the rules of war, especially given Harris’ focus on Israel’s violations of the same. This is reinforced by Harris’ reference to Hezbollah’s “social services” in Lebanon (are suicide bombings a social service?) and representation in Lebanon’s Parliament. In fact 18 countries recognise Hezbollah as a terrorist organisation including <em>inter alia </em>the US, the UK, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates. </p> <p>Nowhere does Harris acknowledge that over 8000 rockets were fired into Israel by Hezbollah daily over the course of the past year at civilian targets, which has forced 80,000 civilians to evacuate their homes in northern Israel, including Arabs. Nor does he acknowledge that victims of Hezbollah’s missile attacks have included Druze Arab children in the Golan Heights.</p> <p>Nor does he explain that Hezbollah is an Iranian proxy organisation, or that Iran funded and co-ordinated the pogrom of Israeli civilians on October 7. Rather, he says that Hezbollah said that it was acting in solidarity with the people of Palestine in response to Israeli bombardments of Gaza. This is false: Hezbollah started firing missiles at Israel on October 8, well prior to Israeli bombardment of Gaza. It acted in concert with Hamas at Iran’s behest.</p> <p>I also take issue with Harris stating as fact that over 43,000 people have been killed by Israel in Gaza and that over half of these are women and children. He does not provide the caveat that his source is Hamas, which is not a reliable source given that it is a terrorist organisation responsible for the genocide of Israeli civilians on October 7 2023. </p> <p>I do not purport to know precisely what is happening in Gaza. Sources I trust provide contradictory accounts. However, one item of data is the report of former NATO general Sir John McColl, who observed the operations of the Israeli military in Gaza firsthand. Although he arrived a sceptic, he concluded that Israel is doing “all it can” to protect civilians in Gaza and that the IDF’s rules of engagement in Gaza “are at least as rigorous as those of the British Army.” </p> <p>The most troubling aspect of Harris’ article is that it minimises Hamas’ genocide of Israelis on October 7. Muslim physician Qanta Ahmed wrote an eyewitness account of the aftermath of that horrific day: over 1200 Israelis a majority of whom were civilians were murdered. Bodies were ripped apart. Children were killed in front of their parents. Entire families were burned alive. Hamas engaged in gang rape of civilians. Men, women and children were sodomised. People were tortured. Civilians were gunned down at a music festival and grenades were thrown into a bomb shelter.</p> <p>250 hostages were taken into Gaza causing indescribable agony for their families. Hersh Goldberg-Polin’s body and those of several other hostages were recovered from a tunnel with no light, no air vents and no toilets which was not high enough to stand up in. Its only entrance was located in the floor of a children’s bedroom with Mickey Mouse and Snow White wallpaper. The hostages were human skeletons who had been brutally murdered at close quarters.It is hypocritical for Harris to omit these details in an article which quotes a Lebanese friend of his who said that it was “insulting, hypocritical, and dehumanising” to describe the Israeli invasion of Lebanon as a humanitarian catastrophe on the grounds that it does not do justice to the severity of Israeli atrocities. I do not accuse Harris of antisemitism. 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class="comment-author"> <h3>CJames</h3> </header> <div class="comment-content nobot"> <div style=""><p>Lucy rightly highlights people like Max Harris (no doubt he is in the progressive wing of the left) who are very blinkered in their approach to everything that happens in the Middle East. They aren’t pro anything, just anti-Israel and its right to exist.<br /> The fighting there is bad, but Hamas and the Hezbollah started it all and they don’t want to stop, unless of course Israel agrees to their demands. The two Islamist organisations, puppets of Iran, are true terrorists and quite willing to use the bodies of their civilian population to hide behind, then propagandise their deaths. From the numbers, Mr Harris used, I gather 20k Hamas terrorists have been killed – good. Or does it include the 500 killed in the hospital grounds early on when a Palestinian missile misfired, which was blamed on the Israelis and there were no bodies?<br /> On this issue, I am Team Israel. The world will be a lot better and safer place once those organisations and there puppetmasters, the evil theocrat rulers of Iran, are wiped out.</p> </div> </div> <footer class="comment-meta"> <ul> <li class="voting"> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="up-3648547" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_up.png" alt="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-3648547-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">38</span> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="down-3648547" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_down.png" alt="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-3648547-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">1</span> </li><li class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-login" href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-login.php?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kiwiblog.co.nz%2F2024%2F11%2Fguest_post_response_to_max_harris.html">Log in to Reply</a></li><li> <span id="safe-comments-result-3648547"><a class="hide-if-no-js" href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="safe_report_comments_flag_comment( '3648547', 'bb8e21ee9b', 'safe-comments-result-3648547');">Report</a></span></li><li class="comdate"><a href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/11/guest_post_response_to_max_harris.html#comment-3648547">November 24, 2024 7:15am</a></li> </ul> </footer> </div> </div> </article> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment-li"> <article id="comment-3648558" class="jumplink"> <div class="comment byuser comment-author-scott odd alt depth-2 comdiv clearfix"> <div class="comdiv-a"> <header class="comment-author"> <h3>Scott</h3> </header> <div class="comment-content nobot"> <p>CJames, quite right. One would infer from Harris’s article that Israel was the aggressor and poor old Hezbollah the victim?</p> <p>The elites in our country seem incapable of looking at the conflict with any objectivity? Rather they see everything through the lens – Israel bad!</p> <p>I think one reason is the elites have become reflexively anti West. Everything we do in the west should be looked at with a critical lens. While non western organisations, like Hezbollah, get a free pass. Sad! 😎</p> </div> <footer class="comment-meta"> <ul> <li class="voting"> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="up-3648558" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_up.png" alt="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-3648558-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">9</span> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="down-3648558" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_down.png" alt="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-3648558-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">1</span> </li><li class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-login" href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-login.php?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kiwiblog.co.nz%2F2024%2F11%2Fguest_post_response_to_max_harris.html">Log in to Reply</a></li><li> <span id="safe-comments-result-3648558"><a class="hide-if-no-js" href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="safe_report_comments_flag_comment( '3648558', 'bb8e21ee9b', 'safe-comments-result-3648558');">Report</a></span></li><li class="comdate"><a href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/11/guest_post_response_to_max_harris.html#comment-3648558">November 24, 2024 8:07am</a></li> </ul> </footer> </div> </div> </article> </li> <li class="comment-li"> <article id="comment-3648631" class="jumplink"> <div class="comment byuser comment-author-colinxy even depth-2 comdiv clearfix"> <div class="comdiv-a"> <header class="comment-author"> <h3>Colinxy</h3> </header> <div class="comment-content nobot"> <p>In a sense you’re right: he’s a progress to communism type; either in the cult or a useful idiot.</p> <p>He has swallowed Critical Whiteness Studies beliefs in his article <a>Racism and White Defensiveness in Aotearoa: A Pākehā Perspective</a></p> <p><i>I want to talk about an aspect of whiteness in Aotearoa New Zealand. And when I say “whiteness”, I’m not just talking about skin colour. I’m talking about the <strong>power, privilege, and patterns of thinking</strong> associated with white people.</p> <p>Whiteness is connected to <strong>economic power and class</strong> — and is probably least understood by those it privileges. Most white people seem blind to its existence, while most non-white people are not. [Emph. mine]</i></p> <p>…</p> <p><i>One aspect of how racism is talked about in Aotearoa is white defensiveness in response to discussions of racism. By white defensiveness, I mean an anxiety, closing-down, and insecurity among white people and white-dominated institutions when racism is raised.</i></p> <p>He goes on to list that not agreeing with him means you’re a racist.</p> <p>This is a classic argument from Critical White Studies. It’s pretty much a case of “Heads I win, tails you lose” when it comes to coin tossing. The position is either to accept their argument (thus admitting you’re a racist) or rejecting their argument “white defensiveness” (thus, you’re a racist). </p> <p>Under Education in his <a href="https://nz.linkedin.com/in/max-harris-86492921b" rel="nofollow ugc">LinkedIn Profile</a> <i>In particular, the PhD used critical approaches to constitutional law…</i>. While in of itself is not a ‘smoking gun’ the bit ‘critical approaches’ is a Neo-Marxist approach and is part of Critical Theory. He talks about his doctorate in the third person.</p> <p>On his substack site, he has an article labelled <a href="https://maxharris.substack.com/p/childcare-criminal-justice-and-some" rel="nofollow ugc">Childcare, criminal justice, and some ways of thinking about public ownership</a>. In it, he is quite partial to author Clara Mattei, especially her book <i>The Capital Order: How Economists Invented Austerity and Paved the Way to Fascism</i>. Those who developed Critical Theory were not as optimistic as Karl Marx that the end of history would be communism. They believed that there were two inevitable outcomes at the end of history either communism or fascism. However, if you think this argument of mine is weak, Mattei is quite fond of Marx herself (blatant examples):</p> <p>“Philosophy of Praxis as Critique to Pure Economics: A study in Methodology and Class Struggle,” NSSR Economics Department Working Paper Series, submitted to Historical Materialism. </p> <p>“Marx’s Approach to Economics: A Claim for Subjective Praxis,” NSSR Economics Department Working Paper Series, submitted to Journal of Economic Methodology. </p> <p><a href="https://www.claramattei.com/about/cv" rel="nofollow ugc">Clara Mattei’s publications</a>.</p> <p>Harris’ substack site confirms beyond a doubt he is Leftist, but I think most people could have guessed that with the articles he writes to our mainstream press. However, it seems Neo-Marxism is his particular flavour of Leftism.</p> <p>I could go on.</p> </div> <footer class="comment-meta"> <ul> <li class="voting"> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="up-3648631" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_up.png" alt="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-3648631-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">9</span> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="down-3648631" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_down.png" alt="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-3648631-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">1</span> </li><li class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-login" href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-login.php?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kiwiblog.co.nz%2F2024%2F11%2Fguest_post_response_to_max_harris.html">Log in to Reply</a></li><li> <span id="safe-comments-result-3648631"><a class="hide-if-no-js" href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="safe_report_comments_flag_comment( '3648631', 'bb8e21ee9b', 'safe-comments-result-3648631');">Report</a></span></li><li class="comdate"><a href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/11/guest_post_response_to_max_harris.html#comment-3648631">November 24, 2024 10:39am</a></li> </ul> </footer> </div> </div> </article> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment-li"> <article id="comment-3648549" class="jumplink"> <div class="comment byuser comment-author-chuck-bird odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 comdiv clearfix"> <div class="comdiv-a"> <header class="comment-author"> <h3><a href="https://www.maxim.org.nz/" class="url" rel="ugc external nofollow">Chuck Bird</a></h3> </header> <div class="comment-content nobot"> <p>Excellent article by Lucy. One thing I find strange is that men, women and children were sodomised yet they murdered gays. Are some of Hamas closet homosexuals?</p> </div> <footer class="comment-meta"> <ul> <li class="voting"> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="up-3648549" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_up.png" alt="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-3648549-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">19</span> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="down-3648549" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_down.png" alt="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-3648549-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">3</span> </li><li class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-login" href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-login.php?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kiwiblog.co.nz%2F2024%2F11%2Fguest_post_response_to_max_harris.html">Log in to Reply</a></li><li> <span id="safe-comments-result-3648549"><a class="hide-if-no-js" href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="safe_report_comments_flag_comment( '3648549', 'bb8e21ee9b', 'safe-comments-result-3648549');">Report</a></span></li><li class="comdate"><a href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/11/guest_post_response_to_max_harris.html#comment-3648549">November 24, 2024 7:42am</a></li> </ul> </footer> </div> </div> </article> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment-li"> <article id="comment-3648576" class="jumplink"> <div class="comment byuser comment-author-igm even depth-2 comdiv clearfix"> <div class="comdiv-a"> <header class="comment-author"> <h3>igm</h3> </header> <div class="comment-content nobot"> <p>What sort or person downticks a comment such as this?<br /> Would have to be a weirdo!</p> </div> <footer class="comment-meta"> <ul> <li class="voting"> <img style="padding: 0px; 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Meanwhile, the health situation in Gaza remains dire.”</p> <p>“New reports have surfaced regarding the death of Palestinian surgeon Dr. Adnan Al-Bursh, who was abducted by Israeli armed forces in December 2023 during an attack on Al-Awda Hospital in northern Gaza. His case sheds further light on the abuse endured by health workers in Israeli prisons and detention camps. Palestinian prisoner associations had previously reported that Dr. Al-Bursh died as a result of torture. Now, testimonies from other detainees reveal that his abuse included sexual abuse.</p> <p>These reports indicate that Israeli soldiers subjected Al-Bursh to exceptionally harsh treatment as soon as they identified him at Al-Awda Hospital. Dr. Khalid Hamouda, another physician detained by Israeli forces, recounted the severe injuries Dr. Al-Bursh sustained during his imprisonment in Sde Teiman concentration camp. At one point, Dr. Al-Bursh had difficulty walking or using the toilet without help, and feared his ribs had been broken in the beatings. Dr. Hamouda described meeting him in this state before Dr. Al-Bursh was transferred to Ofer prison.</p> <p>When Dr. Al-Bursh was transferred to the new facility, fellow prisoners described his state as “deplorable.” They recounted visible injuries across his body, evidence of severe assault, and reported that he had been left naked “in the lower part of his body.” Soon after, he died.</p> <p>“A doctor. A stellar surgeon. The embodiment of Palestinian ethics. Likely raped to death,” UN Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese wrote on X following the release of the new reports. She condemned the lack of reaction to the atrocities committed by Israeli soldiers, stating, “The racism of Western media who are not covering this, and Western politicians who are not denouncing this, together with the thousand other testimonies and allegations of rape and other forms of mistreatment and torture that Palestinians have suffered in Israeli jails, is absolutely sickening.”</p> </div> <footer class="comment-meta"> <ul> <li class="voting"> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="up-3648550" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_up.png" alt="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-3648550-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">2</span> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="down-3648550" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_down.png" alt="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-3648550-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">13</span> </li><li class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-login" href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-login.php?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kiwiblog.co.nz%2F2024%2F11%2Fguest_post_response_to_max_harris.html">Log in to Reply</a></li><li> <span id="safe-comments-result-3648550"><a class="hide-if-no-js" href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="safe_report_comments_flag_comment( '3648550', 'bb8e21ee9b', 'safe-comments-result-3648550');">Report</a></span></li><li class="comdate"><a href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/11/guest_post_response_to_max_harris.html#comment-3648550">November 24, 2024 7:43am</a></li> </ul> </footer> </div> </div> </article> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment-li"> <article id="comment-3648706" class="jumplink"> <div class="comment byuser comment-author-matt_long odd alt depth-2 comdiv clearfix"> <div class="comdiv-a"> <header class="comment-author"> <h3>Matt Long</h3> </header> <div class="comment-content nobot"> <p>I know, right? And they drink the blood of children, and they were behind 9/11, and Christchurch Massacre.<br /> And they kill poor Mr Fafo a dozen times a month.<br /> <a href="https://search.app?link=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2FMrFAfo0&utm_campaign=aga&utm_source=agsadl1%2Csh%2Fx%2Fgs%2Fm2%2F4" rel="nofollow ugc">https://search.app?link=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2FMrFAfo0&utm_campaign=aga&utm_source=agsadl1%2Csh%2Fx%2Fgs%2Fm2%2F4</a></p> </div> <footer class="comment-meta"> <ul> <li class="voting"> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="up-3648706" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_up.png" alt="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-3648706-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">7</span> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="down-3648706" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_down.png" alt="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-3648706-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">1</span> </li><li class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-login" href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-login.php?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kiwiblog.co.nz%2F2024%2F11%2Fguest_post_response_to_max_harris.html">Log in to Reply</a></li><li> <span id="safe-comments-result-3648706"><a class="hide-if-no-js" href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="safe_report_comments_flag_comment( '3648706', 'bb8e21ee9b', 'safe-comments-result-3648706');">Report</a></span></li><li class="comdate"><a href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/11/guest_post_response_to_max_harris.html#comment-3648706">November 24, 2024 2:34pm</a></li> </ul> </footer> </div> </div> </article> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment-li"> <article id="comment-3648795" class="jumplink"> <div class="comment byuser comment-author-all_on_red even depth-3 comdiv clearfix"> <div class="comdiv-a"> <header class="comment-author"> <h3>All_on_Red</h3> </header> <div class="comment-content nobot"> <p>Don’t forget controlling the weather</p> </div> <footer class="comment-meta"> <ul> <li class="voting"> <img style="padding: 0px; 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Aner positioned himself at the entrance to the shelter, and in video that later emerged from a dashcam, he can be seen catching and throwing back seven grenades before the eighth exploded and killed him.’</p> <p><a href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/staff-sgt-aner-elyakim-shapiro-22-unarmed-he-fended-off-7-grenades/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.timesofisrael.com/staff-sgt-aner-elyakim-shapiro-22-unarmed-he-fended-off-7-grenades/</a></p> </div> <footer class="comment-meta"> <ul> <li class="voting"> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="up-3648594" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_up.png" alt="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-3648594-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">9</span> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="down-3648594" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_down.png" alt="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-3648594-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">1</span> </li><li class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-login" href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-login.php?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kiwiblog.co.nz%2F2024%2F11%2Fguest_post_response_to_max_harris.html">Log in to Reply</a></li><li> <span id="safe-comments-result-3648594"><a class="hide-if-no-js" href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="safe_report_comments_flag_comment( '3648594', 'bb8e21ee9b', 'safe-comments-result-3648594');">Report</a></span></li><li class="comdate"><a href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/11/guest_post_response_to_max_harris.html#comment-3648594">November 24, 2024 8:57am</a></li> </ul> </footer> </div> </div> </article> </li> <li class="comment-li"> <article id="comment-3648601" class="jumplink"> <div class="comment byuser comment-author-g152 odd alt thread-even depth-1 comdiv clearfix"> <div class="comdiv-a"> <header class="comment-author"> <h3>G152</h3> </header> <div class="comment-content nobot"> <p>Firing unguided missiles into a nation and hiding behind a civilian population should have its time in the UN being as it is, a war crime.<br /> But fight back and you are the bad guy.<br /> Keep it up Israel even Arabs can realise when they are defeated</p> </div> <footer class="comment-meta"> <ul> <li class="voting"> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="up-3648601" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_up.png" alt="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-3648601-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">12</span> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="down-3648601" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_down.png" alt="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-3648601-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span> </li><li class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-login" href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-login.php?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kiwiblog.co.nz%2F2024%2F11%2Fguest_post_response_to_max_harris.html">Log in to Reply</a></li><li> <span id="safe-comments-result-3648601"><a class="hide-if-no-js" href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="safe_report_comments_flag_comment( '3648601', 'bb8e21ee9b', 'safe-comments-result-3648601');">Report</a></span></li><li class="comdate"><a href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/11/guest_post_response_to_max_harris.html#comment-3648601">November 24, 2024 9:02am</a></li> </ul> </footer> </div> </div> </article> </li> <li class="comment-li"> <article id="comment-3648603" class="jumplink"> <div class="comment byuser comment-author-cjames even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 comdiv clearfix ckrating_highly_rated"> <div class="comdiv-a"> <header class="comment-author"> <h3>CJames</h3> </header> <div class="comment-content nobot"> <div style=""><p>The new nominee for AG looks like she will have zero tolerance for the anti-Israel protesters. I think the universities where they reside are in for a major shock.<br /> <a href="https://freebeacon.com/politics/watch-trump-ag-pick-pam-bondi-slams-ignorant-hamas-sympathizers-frankly-they-need-to-be-taken-out-of-our-country/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://freebeacon.com/politics/watch-trump-ag-pick-pam-bondi-slams-ignorant-hamas-sympathizers-frankly-they-need-to-be-taken-out-of-our-country/</a><br /> How sad – never mind, carry on.</p> </div> </div> <footer class="comment-meta"> <ul> <li class="voting"> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="up-3648603" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_up.png" alt="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-3648603-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">20</span> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="down-3648603" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_down.png" alt="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-3648603-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span> </li><li class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-login" href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-login.php?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kiwiblog.co.nz%2F2024%2F11%2Fguest_post_response_to_max_harris.html">Log in to Reply</a></li><li> <span id="safe-comments-result-3648603"><a class="hide-if-no-js" href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="safe_report_comments_flag_comment( '3648603', 'bb8e21ee9b', 'safe-comments-result-3648603');">Report</a></span></li><li class="comdate"><a href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/11/guest_post_response_to_max_harris.html#comment-3648603">November 24, 2024 9:04am</a></li> </ul> </footer> </div> </div> </article> </li> <li class="comment-li"> <article id="comment-3648615" class="jumplink"> <div class="comment byuser comment-author-jack5 odd alt thread-even depth-1 comdiv clearfix"> <div class="comdiv-a"> <header class="comment-author"> <h3>Jack5</h3> </header> <div class="comment-content nobot"> <p>On its web site, the Wellington’s surviving newspaper still calls itself <i>The Post</i> – no <i>“Dominion”</i>.</p> <p>They/them pronouns for the third person singular tells you it’s on the Woke barometer.</p> <p>On Hamas v Israel, you can read on the <i>Post</i> site this taste of a report buried behind its paywall:</p> <blockquote> <p>About 2000 people have pledged to switch their money out of ASB’s KiwiSaver scheme on Friday, if ASB does not pledge to sell its stake in technology company Motorola.</p> <p>The Justice for Palestine group has held protests outside ASB branches over the scheme’s investment in Motorola, which provides products and services to the Israeli military for use in border security and in what many countries see as illegal Israeli settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territories.</p> <p>If the protest group pulls off the mass-switch, it would represent a statistically bad day for the giant KiwiSaver scheme. </p></blockquote> <p>Where will the Woke keep their savings? Perhaps in the Islamic bank — free of interest — being set up in NZ (third link below).</p> <p>If you want to know about Max Harris, here’s background Max provides:</p> <p><a href="https://www.chambers.co.nz/barristers/max-harris" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.chambers.co.nz/barristers/max-harris</a></p> <p>This is about Lucy Rogers:</p> <p><a href="https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-lawyer-arrested-at-pro-palestine-protest-lucy-rogers-claims-police-misused-power/AMN2QZVPX5DJ5KE44KNX7AUCGQ/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-lawyer-arrested-at-pro-palestine-protest-lucy-rogers-claims-police-misused-power/AMN2QZVPX5DJ5KE44KNX7AUCGQ/</a></p> <p>The Islamic bank for NZ:</p> <p><a href="https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/islamic-bank-to-share-its-profits-and-avoid-interest/K5XIECTDZD2L2XXQHUHK2GWQUY/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/islamic-bank-to-share-its-profits-and-avoid-interest/K5XIECTDZD2L2XXQHUHK2GWQUY/</a></p> </div> <footer class="comment-meta"> <ul> <li class="voting"> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="up-3648615" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_up.png" alt="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-3648615-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">4</span> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="down-3648615" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_down.png" alt="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-3648615-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">1</span> </li><li class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-login" href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-login.php?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kiwiblog.co.nz%2F2024%2F11%2Fguest_post_response_to_max_harris.html">Log in to Reply</a></li><li> <span id="safe-comments-result-3648615"><a class="hide-if-no-js" href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="safe_report_comments_flag_comment( '3648615', 'bb8e21ee9b', 'safe-comments-result-3648615');">Report</a></span></li><li class="comdate"><a href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/11/guest_post_response_to_max_harris.html#comment-3648615">November 24, 2024 9:39am</a></li> </ul> </footer> </div> </div> </article> </li> <li class="comment-li"> <article id="comment-3648628" class="jumplink"> <div class="comment byuser comment-author-suze_wainwright even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 comdiv clearfix"> <div class="comdiv-a"> <header class="comment-author"> <h3>Suze Wainwright</h3> </header> <div class="comment-content nobot"> <p>But Max Harris has a PhD in constitutional law from Oxford and writes for Newsroom too, you know</p> </div> <footer class="comment-meta"> <ul> <li class="voting"> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="up-3648628" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_up.png" alt="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-3648628-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">3</span> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="down-3648628" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_down.png" alt="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-3648628-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span> </li><li class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-login" href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-login.php?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kiwiblog.co.nz%2F2024%2F11%2Fguest_post_response_to_max_harris.html">Log in to Reply</a></li><li> <span id="safe-comments-result-3648628"><a class="hide-if-no-js" href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="safe_report_comments_flag_comment( '3648628', 'bb8e21ee9b', 'safe-comments-result-3648628');">Report</a></span></li><li class="comdate"><a href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/11/guest_post_response_to_max_harris.html#comment-3648628">November 24, 2024 10:34am</a></li> </ul> </footer> </div> </div> </article> </li> <li class="comment-li"> <article id="comment-3648636" class="jumplink"> <div class="comment byuser comment-author-mogg odd alt thread-even depth-1 comdiv clearfix"> <div class="comdiv-a"> <header class="comment-author"> <h3>mogg</h3> </header> <div class="comment-content nobot"> <p>Also overlooked in this comment is Israel’s repeated offers of wanting ‘to live in peace’ . Offers of returning land in exchange for peace were repeatedly made by Golda Meir and Simon Peres, all were ignored. Before the wall was built terrorists were sewing bombs inside their body cavity and boarding crowded commuter buses in Israel, they have been bred on hatred.</p> </div> <footer class="comment-meta"> <ul> <li class="voting"> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="up-3648636" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_up.png" alt="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-3648636-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">10</span> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="down-3648636" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_down.png" alt="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-3648636-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">1</span> </li><li class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-login" href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-login.php?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kiwiblog.co.nz%2F2024%2F11%2Fguest_post_response_to_max_harris.html">Log in to Reply</a></li><li> <span id="safe-comments-result-3648636"><a class="hide-if-no-js" href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="safe_report_comments_flag_comment( '3648636', 'bb8e21ee9b', 'safe-comments-result-3648636');">Report</a></span></li><li class="comdate"><a href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/11/guest_post_response_to_max_harris.html#comment-3648636">November 24, 2024 11:17am</a></li> </ul> </footer> </div> </div> </article> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment-li"> <article id="comment-3648755" class="jumplink"> <div class="comment byuser comment-author-lucy_rogers even depth-2 comdiv clearfix"> <div class="comdiv-a"> <header class="comment-author"> <h3>Lucy Rogers</h3> </header> <div class="comment-content nobot"> <p>I have written about this elsewhere. Op eds have to be short to get published. There are other points I could have made in response to Harris that I did not have space for either.</p> </div> <footer class="comment-meta"> <ul> <li class="voting"> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="up-3648755" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_up.png" alt="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-3648755-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">5</span> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="down-3648755" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_down.png" alt="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-3648755-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span> </li><li class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-login" href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-login.php?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kiwiblog.co.nz%2F2024%2F11%2Fguest_post_response_to_max_harris.html">Log in to Reply</a></li><li> <span id="safe-comments-result-3648755"><a class="hide-if-no-js" href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="safe_report_comments_flag_comment( '3648755', 'bb8e21ee9b', 'safe-comments-result-3648755');">Report</a></span></li><li class="comdate"><a href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/11/guest_post_response_to_max_harris.html#comment-3648755">November 24, 2024 4:59pm</a></li> </ul> </footer> </div> </div> </article> </li> <li class="comment-li"> <article id="comment-3648756" class="jumplink"> <div class="comment byuser comment-author-distantobserver odd alt depth-2 comdiv clearfix"> <div class="comdiv-a"> <header class="comment-author"> <h3>DistantObserver</h3> </header> <div class="comment-content nobot"> <p>Oh I think there is plenty of hatred being bred on both sides here:<br /> <a href="https://x.com/DrMadsGilbert/status/1860346566000656440#m" rel="nofollow ugc">https://x.com/DrMadsGilbert/status/1860346566000656440#m</a></p> <p><a href="https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1860510901943615782" rel="nofollow ugc">https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1860510901943615782</a></p> <p><a href="https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1759329189608489422" rel="nofollow ugc">https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1759329189608489422</a></p> </div> <footer class="comment-meta"> <ul> <li class="voting"> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="up-3648756" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_up.png" alt="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-3648756-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">1</span> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="down-3648756" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_down.png" alt="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-3648756-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">6</span> </li><li class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-login" href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-login.php?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kiwiblog.co.nz%2F2024%2F11%2Fguest_post_response_to_max_harris.html">Log in to Reply</a></li><li> <span id="safe-comments-result-3648756"><a class="hide-if-no-js" href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="safe_report_comments_flag_comment( '3648756', 'bb8e21ee9b', 'safe-comments-result-3648756');">Report</a></span></li><li class="comdate"><a href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/11/guest_post_response_to_max_harris.html#comment-3648756">November 24, 2024 4:59pm</a></li> </ul> </footer> </div> </div> </article> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment-li"> <article id="comment-3648722" class="jumplink"> <div class="comment byuser comment-author-sir_henry_morgan even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 comdiv clearfix"> <div class="comdiv-a"> <header class="comment-author"> <h3>Sir Henry Morgan</h3> </header> <div class="comment-content nobot"> <p>Max Harris is a very unpleasant bigot. He seems obsessed with power.</p> <p>During the COVID pandemic he helped run some Facebook group that ostensibly was about lobbying government to let New Zealanders stuck overseas enter the country. In reality it was endless baffling messages in that weird mix of English and Maori. Most were self-congratulatory. Others mused about the legality of barring Maori specifically (but not all New Zealanders) from entering the country. 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He does not provide the caveat that his source is Hamas,</p> <p>Sorry Lucy, but alluding to the fact that 43,000 people have not been killed because the numbers come from the Governing Body of Gaza(Hamas) is disingenuous at best. But a blatant attempt to dismiss Harris opinion.</p> <p>Ok so you don’t believe 43,000 fatalities Lucy, what is the number then? Fatalities are Horrendous by any assessment.</p> <p> Anybody with half a brain would look at the mass destruction of Gaza (Satellite images, drone images onsite videos from Journalists. Even some media put out by the IDF.) and conclude that thousands have died in the conflict.</p> <p>In summary, Lucy is Pro Israel. I dont have a problem with that. Harris is maybe pro Palestinian, I dont have a problem with that.</p> <p>But I am getting a bit tired and jaded with the anti Palestine commenters repeatedly trotting out cherry-picked misinformation.</p> <p>Sorta reminds me of the Democrats in the recent US election. Trotting out provable untruths as tho they were fact.</p> <p>Or the sad attempt by many to say that Ukraine is winning the war against Russia, or will win the war if they get more US/European support.</p> <p>I support freedom of speech, which means freedom to express an opinion. No matter how crazy, illiterate or spouting untruths are in such an opinion.</p> <p> Opinions are like arseholes. 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I have been deeply critical of Israel in articles I have written on the subject and on three occasions I have attended pro-Palestine street protests wearing a Palestinian flag. In my eyes Netanyahu is a fascist and Israel would be infinitely better off without him, to say nothing of the Palestinians.</p> <p>“No Lucy, 8000 rockets not fired daily but 8000 estimated since Oct 7 2023.” — I know. You have misinterpreted what I was trying to say.</p> </div> <footer class="comment-meta"> <ul> <li class="voting"> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="up-3648761" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_up.png" alt="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-3648761-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">1</span> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="down-3648761" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_down.png" alt="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-3648761-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">3</span> </li><li class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-login" href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-login.php?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kiwiblog.co.nz%2F2024%2F11%2Fguest_post_response_to_max_harris.html">Log in to Reply</a></li><li> <span id="safe-comments-result-3648761"><a class="hide-if-no-js" href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="safe_report_comments_flag_comment( '3648761', 'bb8e21ee9b', 'safe-comments-result-3648761');">Report</a></span></li><li class="comdate"><a href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/11/guest_post_response_to_max_harris.html#comment-3648761">November 24, 2024 5:09pm</a></li> </ul> </footer> </div> </div> </article> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment-li"> <article id="comment-3648778" class="jumplink"> <div class="comment byuser comment-author-tom-hunter even depth-3 comdiv clearfix"> <div class="comdiv-a"> <header class="comment-author"> <h3><a href="https://nominister.wordpress.com" class="url" rel="ugc external nofollow">Tom Hunter</a></h3> </header> <div class="comment-content nobot"> <p><i>I have attended pro-Palestine street protests wearing a Palestinian flag. In my eyes Netanyahu is a fascist….</i></p> <p>These people couldn’t care less about your ability to judge both sides: ask Colinxy above about the revolutions that always move left and what happens to those who finally draw a line in the sand.</p> <p>They also couldn’t care less that you think Netanyahu is a fascist. It’s all their way or you’re a fascist as well – and if you’re not you soon will be.</p> <p>Which actually should cause you to question your claim that he’s a fascist.</p> </div> <footer class="comment-meta"> <ul> <li class="voting"> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="up-3648778" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_up.png" alt="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-3648778-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">8</span> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="down-3648778" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_down.png" alt="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-3648778-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">1</span> </li><li class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-login" href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-login.php?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kiwiblog.co.nz%2F2024%2F11%2Fguest_post_response_to_max_harris.html">Log in to Reply</a></li><li> <span id="safe-comments-result-3648778"><a class="hide-if-no-js" href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="safe_report_comments_flag_comment( '3648778', 'bb8e21ee9b', 'safe-comments-result-3648778');">Report</a></span></li><li class="comdate"><a href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/11/guest_post_response_to_max_harris.html#comment-3648778">November 24, 2024 5:56pm</a></li> </ul> </footer> </div> </div> </article> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment-li"> <article id="comment-3648796" class="jumplink"> <div class="comment byuser comment-author-lucy_rogers odd alt depth-4 comdiv clearfix"> <div class="comdiv-a"> <header class="comment-author"> <h3>Lucy Rogers</h3> </header> <div class="comment-content nobot"> <p>@Tom Hunter I know. I don’t hold the position I do to be thanked. Having a nod both ways is perceived as virtue signaling but in fact it just pisses everyone off and gets you accused of virtue signaling. I know extremely well that I will receive absolutely no appreciation from the likes of Max Harris and that is perfectly fine with me.</p> <p>Having said that, Israel is a functioning albeit imperfect democracy and it is contemptible to suggest that it is anywhere near as bad as Hamas, which is not what I am trying to convey.</p> <p>P.S. The downtick on your post is not me.</p> </div> <footer class="comment-meta"> <ul> <li class="voting"> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="up-3648796" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_up.png" alt="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-3648796-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">3</span> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none;" id="down-3648796" src="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_gray_down.png" alt="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-3648796-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span> </li><li class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-login" href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-login.php?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kiwiblog.co.nz%2F2024%2F11%2Fguest_post_response_to_max_harris.html">Log in to Reply</a></li><li> <span id="safe-comments-result-3648796"><a class="hide-if-no-js" href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="safe_report_comments_flag_comment( '3648796', 'bb8e21ee9b', 'safe-comments-result-3648796');">Report</a></span></li><li class="comdate"><a href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/11/guest_post_response_to_max_harris.html#comment-3648796">November 24, 2024 6:52pm</a></li> </ul> </footer> </div> </div> </article> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment-li"> <article id="comment-3648799" class="jumplink"> <div class="comment byuser comment-author-all_on_red even depth-2 comdiv clearfix"> <div class="comdiv-a"> <header class="comment-author"> <h3>All_on_Red</h3> </header> <div class="comment-content nobot"> <p>‘Israel uses air strikes because the IDF has an air force.’<br /> Which it only used after the Air Strikes<br /> And blub blub blub<br /> Just cause they have air support then tough luck<br /> They shouldnt have fired the rockets<br /> Heres a fact for you.<br /> The Lebanese want Hezbollah gone<br /> That seems to be happening<br /> Good job</p> </div> <footer class="comment-meta"> <ul> <li class="voting"> <img style="padding: 0px; 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However, I cannot stay silent when faced with such appalling ignorance and misrepresentation.</p> <p>I had never seen Harris’s article until now, and I am shaking with anger. This is exactly why I do not read such drivel from people like him. Has he lived even a single day under the suffocating grip of Hezbollah’s terror? Has he endured imprisonment, torture, or the countless indignities inflicted by the IRGC? What qualifies him to speak so recklessly about the reality of these organizations?</p> <p>But what truly disgusts me beyond words is the grotesque use of the term “social services” in the same breath as Hezbollah. This isn’t just misguided—it’s a despicable insult to the countless girls, boys, and families who have been brutalized, murdered, or stripped of their dignity under these terrorist organizations. To anyone who dares to make such a comparison: you should be utterly ashamed of yourself. It is an affront to every victim of these regimes, living and dead, to trivialize their suffering with such baseless and offensive rhetoric.</p> <p>And to Stuff: your failure to publish a counter-argument is inexcusable. Whatever your views on the broader conflict, allowing such egregious falsehoods to go unchallenged shows a shocking disregard for truth and integrity. Anyone who uses the words “social services” and “Hezbollah” in the same sentence doesn’t just need to reconsider their words—they need to cleanse their conscience.</p> <p>This is shameful. 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calc(100vw - 20px), 140px" /></span><span class="htitle">Health Target 4 – Specialist appointments</span></a></div></li><li><div class="li-a"><a href="https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/10/health_target_3_-_emergency_dept_waiting_times.html"><span class="himage"><img width="140" height="120" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/image-7.png?resize=140%2C120&ssl=1" class="attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="" decoding="async" loading="lazy" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/image-7.png?resize=140%2C120&ssl=1 140w, https://i0.wp.com/www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/image-7.png?resize=280%2C240&ssl=1 280w, https://i0.wp.com/www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/image-7.png?zoom=3&resize=140%2C120&ssl=1 420w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 160px) calc(100vw - 20px), 140px" /></span><span class="htitle">Health Target 3 – Emergency Dept Waiting Times</span></a></div></li><li><div 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