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text-align:center;"><a href="/wiki/Template:Conspiracynav" title="Template:Conspiracynav">v</a> - <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Conspiracynav" title="Template talk:Conspiracynav">t</a> - <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Conspiracynav&action=edit">e</a></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><b>Vince Foster</b> (1945–1993) was a deputy <a href="/wiki/White_House" class="mw-redirect" title="White House">White House</a> counsel in the first few months of the <a href="/wiki/Bill_Clinton" title="Bill Clinton">Bill Clinton</a> administration. In July 1993, suffering from depression and placed in an untenable professional position by his superiors at the White House, he committed <a href="/wiki/Suicide" title="Suicide">suicide</a> in a <a href="/wiki/Virginia" class="mw-redirect" title="Virginia">Virginia</a> park. The torn-up suicide note found in his briefcase despaired that in <a href="/wiki/Washington,_DC" class="mw-redirect" title="Washington, DC">Washington</a>'s <a href="/wiki/Political" class="mw-redirect" title="Political">political</a> environment, "<a href="/wiki/Sociopath" class="mw-redirect" title="Sociopath">ruining people is considered sport.</a>"<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1">[1]</a></sup> </p> <div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none" /><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><span class="toctogglespan"><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></span></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#Conspiracy.3F"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">Conspiracy?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#Foster.27s_troubled_tenure"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Foster's troubled tenure</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#Investigations"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Investigations</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#What_really_happened.3F"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">What really happened?</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-5"><a href="#The_version_backed_up_by_all_available_evidence"><span class="tocnumber">4.1</span> <span class="toctext">The version backed up by all available evidence</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-6"><a href="#The_version_cooked_up_by_nutbar_central"><span class="tocnumber">4.2</span> <span class="toctext">The version cooked up by nutbar central</span></a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7"><a href="#See_also"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">See also</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-8"><a href="#External_links"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">External links</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="#Notes"><span class="tocnumber">7</span> <span class="toctext">Notes</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-10"><a href="#References"><span class="tocnumber">8</span> <span class="toctext">References</span></a></li> </ul> </div> <h2><span id="Conspiracy?"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Conspiracy.3F">Conspiracy?</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vince_Foster&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Conspiracy?">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>A dedicated <a href="/wiki/Democrat" class="mw-redirect" title="Democrat">Democrat</a> in life, Foster might have been either surprised or horrified to discover that, in death, he became a hero of the far right.<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-2">[note 1]</a></sup> Starting with <a href="/wiki/Newt_Gingrich" title="Newt Gingrich">Newt Gingrich</a>,<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-3">[2]</a></sup> numerous <a href="/wiki/Wingnut" title="Wingnut">wingnut</a> sources, including such luminaries as <a href="/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh" title="Rush Limbaugh">Rush Limbaugh</a> and <a href="/wiki/G._Gordon_Liddy" title="G. Gordon Liddy">G. Gordon Liddy</a>, declared that Foster may have been <a href="/wiki/Murder" class="mw-redirect" title="Murder">murdered</a> for some nefarious purpose by the White House. The <a href="/wiki/Absence_of_evidence" title="Absence of evidence">absence of any such direct evidence</a> only reinforced their belief that "<a href="/wiki/Just_asking_questions" title="Just asking questions">something</a>" was amiss. The <a href="/wiki/Crank" title="Crank">cranky</a> billionaire <a href="/wiki/Richard_Mellon_Scaife" title="Richard Mellon Scaife">Richard Mellon Scaife</a> also dumped a bunch of <a href="/wiki/Money" title="Money">money</a> into "journalistic investigations" (read: <a href="/wiki/Conspiracy_theory" title="Conspiracy theory">conspiracy</a> mongering) of the Foster case. </p><p>Perhaps the clearest indication that Foster wasn't murdered was the fact that Kenneth Starr, a man who obsessed over getting Bill Clinton <a href="/wiki/Impeach" class="mw-redirect" title="Impeach">impeached</a> (be it for <a href="/wiki/Hillary_Clinton#Scandals" title="Hillary Clinton">Whitewater</a>, "Travelgate," or the Lewinsky scandal), found nothing in Vince Foster's death to suggest that it was anything other than a suicide.<sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-4">[3]</a></sup> Of course, that hasn't stopped some <a href="/wiki/Crank" title="Crank">cranks</a> from claiming that Starr himself was in on it. Because that's how conspiracy theories work — any contradictory <a href="/wiki/Evidence" title="Evidence">evidence</a> is proof that <i>They</i> have been tampering with the investigation. </p> <h2><span id="Foster's_troubled_tenure"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Foster.27s_troubled_tenure">Foster's troubled tenure</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vince_Foster&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Foster's troubled tenure">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>Foster had been embroiled in the Travel Office controversy (still referred to as Travelgate, despite nothing coming out of it). Specifically, there were some unexplained firings in that office in the early months of 1993, probably to allow the Clintons to <a href="/wiki/Patronage" class="mw-redirect" title="Patronage">appoint their own friends to fill slots</a>. Foster had been involved in the firings, feared that he was being set up as a "fall guy" for it, and would not be able to defend himself without violating attorney-client privilege. </p><p>At the same time, Foster had been charged with vetting Clinton Attorney General nominees Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nannygate" class="extiw" title="wp:Nannygate" rel="nofollow"><span style="color:#477979 !important;" title="Wikipedia: Nannygate">both of whom embarrassingly withdrew their nominations</span></a><sup><img alt="" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/12px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="12" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/18px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/24px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128" /></sup> after they were discovered to have employed <a href="/wiki/Illegal_immigrant" class="mw-redirect" title="Illegal immigrant">illegal immigrant</a> housekeepers without paying <a href="/wiki/Social_Security" title="Social Security">Social Security</a> tax. While Foster could not reasonably be blamed for either debacle (as neither Baird nor Wood had revealed any of this during the vetting process), this only worsened his growing depression. Snippy editorials in right-wing <a href="/wiki/Media" title="Media">media</a> outlets, accusing Foster of incompetence, only exacerbated the situation; <a href="/wiki/Ironic" class="mw-redirect" title="Ironic">ironically</a>, many of these same outlets would later lament his untimely death, while completely ignoring any role they might have had in the tragedy. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Investigations">Investigations</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vince_Foster&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Investigations">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>No less than five investigations ruled that it was an unfortunate suicide, and nothing more: </p> <ul><li>The original investigation, performed by the United States Park Police (as the suicide occurred in a federal park, it came under their jurisdiction), determined it to be a suicide.</li> <li>Original Whitewater prosecutor Robert Fiske issued a 58-page report, which also concluded it was a suicide.</li> <li>As previously mentioned, subsequent Whitewater prosecutor Kenneth Starr ruled it a suicide in 1997.</li> <li>Finally, <a href="/wiki/Congress" class="mw-redirect" title="Congress">Congress</a> conducted two more investigations. Both determined it to be a suicide as well.</li></ul> <h2><span id="What_really_happened?"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="What_really_happened.3F">What really happened?</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vince_Foster&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: What really happened?">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <h3><span class="mw-headline" id="The_version_backed_up_by_all_available_evidence">The version backed up by all available evidence</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vince_Foster&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: The version backed up by all available evidence">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h3> <p>Unprepared for the pressure cooker (read: abundance of <a href="/wiki/Asshole" class="mw-redirect" title="Asshole">asshole</a>) environment of Washington, Foster was almost immediately made the public <a href="/wiki/Scapegoat" title="Scapegoat">scapegoat</a> for several <a href="/wiki/PR" class="mw-redirect" title="PR">PR</a> debacles in the early months of the Clinton Administration. He was being mocked by national media, his career was at risk, and his friends, family, and co-workers either didn't notice his spiral into a deep depression or noticed it but thought he could handle it. </p> <h3><span class="mw-headline" id="The_version_cooked_up_by_nutbar_central">The version cooked up by nutbar central</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vince_Foster&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: The version cooked up by nutbar central">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h3> <p>Foster, a friend of Clinton since kindergarten, worked for the Clintons until 1993, when they had no further use for him. As they did with most of their old friends, they murdered him! Suicide victims don't generally have two bullet wounds in the back of their heads! All five investigations, of course, are total lies! Despite the fact that Starr, in particular,<sup id="cite_ref-5" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-5">[note 2]</a></sup> spent five years and <i>40 million dollars</i><sup id="cite_ref-6" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-6">[note 3]</a></sup> looking for any conceivable pretext to get Bill Clinton into a courtroom, he apparently didn't think something as trivial as murder would be worth pursuing. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="See_also">See also</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vince_Foster&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: See also">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Clinton_body_count" title="Clinton body count">Clinton body count</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/PRATT" class="mw-redirect" title="PRATT">PRATT</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Seth_Rich" class="mw-redirect" title="Seth Rich">Seth Rich</a> – a later murder turned conspiracy theory.</li></ul> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="External_links">External links</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vince_Foster&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: External links">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/whitewater/docs/foster.htm">The Foster Report in its entirety.</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/arkansas/etc/foster.html">Once Upon a Time in Arkansas: Vince Foster's journal</a>, PBS</li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp">Clinton Body Count</a>, <a href="/wiki/Snopes" title="Snopes">Snopes</a></li></ul> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Notes">Notes</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vince_Foster&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Notes">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <div class="references-small" style="-moz-column-count:90%; -webkit-column-count:90%; column-count:90%; font-size:90%;"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-2"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-2">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text">In fact, one could say that, if Foster is in <a href="/wiki/Hell" title="Hell">hell</a> (and if the <a href="/wiki/Fundamentalist_Christian" class="mw-redirect" title="Fundamentalist Christian">fundamentalist Christians</a> are right, then suicide is a one-way ticket), then his punishment would be to make him read all the drivel written about his death for all eternity.</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-5"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-5">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text">In an odd twist, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.justice-integrity.org/faq/791-ken-starr-explains-his-help-for-billionaire-pervert-jeffrey-epstein">moralist bible-thumper Ken Starr</a> helped <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/05/18/morning_joe_panel_clintons_connection_to_billionaire_pedophile_jeffrey_epstein_will_blow_up_campaign.html">convicted billionaire pedophile and Clinton donor</a> <a href="/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein" title="Jeffrey Epstein">Jeffrey Epstein</a> beat a second pedophilia charge. But hey, like <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/05/26/hillary-clinton-1975-sex-assault-case-investigation-kaye-pkg-ac.cnn">Hillary, good lawyering is all in a day's work</a>.</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-6"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-6">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text">Nearly as expensive as the <a href="/wiki/Iran-Contra" title="Iran-Contra">Iran-Contra</a> inquiry, which actually <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/02/01/starr.costs/">garnered convictions by comparison</a>.</span> </li> </ol></div></div> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="References">References</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Vince_Foster&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: References">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <div class="references-small" style="font-size:90%;"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-1">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.nytimes.com/1993/08/11/us/note-left-by-white-house-aide-accusation-anger-and-despair.html">Note Left by White House Aide: Accusation, Anger and Despair</a>, <i><a href="/wiki/The_New_York_Times" title="The New York Times">The New York Times</a></i></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-3"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-3">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1995/07/26/gingrich-not-convinced-foster-death-was-suicide/4003f01f-83ad-4b41-9b9c-e209344a716c/">Gingrich Not Convinced Foster Death Was Suicide</a> by R.H. 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