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class="first"> <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=675941&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p675941">New saurian units</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=675941&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=675941&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p675941" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=139819&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="username">Talentless</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2022-08-20T18:10:54+00:00">August 20th, 2022, 6:10 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">This thread aims to discuss sprites and animations for new potential Saurian units including: <ul> <li> Lv3 upgrades of the augur tree.</li> <li> Alternative skirmisher upgrades.</li> </ul> You can check the progress of the individual units in these pull requests: <ul> <li> <a href="https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/pull/6905" class="postlink">#6905</a>: new skirmisher alternative upgrade branch. Mixed fighter with some defensive capabilities.</li> <li> <a href="https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/pull/6911" class="postlink">#6911</a>: level-3 upgrades of the augur tree.</li> <li> <a href="https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/pull/6912" class="postlink">#6912</a>: optional alternative skirmisher upgrade for campaigns and UMC. Focused on ranged attacks.</li> </ul> Current unit sprites can be found in this <a href="https://github.com/czyzby/wesnoth-saurian-pack/tree/main/images/units/saurians" class="postlink">add-on</a>.<br> <br> ---<br> <br> Initially I'd like to discuss the sprites of the new augur final upgrades. I feel like it's the least controversial change that already proved quite useful for soon-to-be-official campaigns. The current sprites are not quite simple recolors, but they might need to be a bit more distinctive to match mainline quality. Perhaps a slight pose change or a subtle enlargement of the sprite (similar to Ambusher &gt; Flanker) might do the trick.</div> <dl class="attachbox"> <dt> Attachments </dt> <dd> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=93550&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="postimage" alt="seer.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>seer.png (945 Bytes) Viewed 13666 times</dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=93549&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="postimage" alt="seer-ne-bob1.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>seer-ne-bob1.png (915 Bytes) Viewed 13666 times</dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=93548&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="postimage" alt="prophet-ne-bob1.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>prophet-ne-bob1.png (1.01 KiB) Viewed 13666 times</dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=93547&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="postimage" alt="prophet.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>prophet.png (1007 Bytes) Viewed 13666 times</dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p677017" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile677017"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=108075&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=108075_1585525419.jpg" width="61" height="61" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=108075&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">doofus-01</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Art Director</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=108075&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e">4167</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> January 6th, 2008, 9:27 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> USA</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content677017"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=677017&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p677017">Re: New saurian units</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=677017&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=677017&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p677017" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=108075&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">doofus-01</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2022-10-29T23:57:47+00:00">October 29th, 2022, 11:57 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">Judging the level 3 magic saurians by how differentiated they are by testing your add-on in the scenario editor:<br> - The prophet is good as is. The color and hat make it different enough, though maybe the staff could be a little gaudier.<br> - I'm less sure about the seer. This is an alternative proposal for the seer - I'm not completely convinced of it, but I think it would be more easily distinguished on the map.</div> <dl class="attachbox"> <dt> Attachments </dt> <dd> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=93893&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="postimage" alt="saurian-demo.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>saurian-demo.png (15.56 KiB) Viewed 13457 times</dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> <div id="sig677017" class="signature"><span style="font-size:70%;line-height:116%">BfW 1.12 supported, but active development only for BfW 1.13/1.14: <strong class="text-strong"><a href="http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=31348" class="postlink">Bad Moon Rising</a></strong> | <strong class="text-strong"><a href="http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=31632" class="postlink">Trinity</a></strong> | <strong class="text-strong"><a href="http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&amp;t=27740" class="postlink">Archaic Era</a></strong> |<br> | Abandoned: <a href="http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=514347#p514347" class="postlink"><span style="text-decoration:line-through">Tales of the Setting Sun</span></a><br> </span><a href="https://github.com/doofus-01" class="postlink">GitHub link for these projects</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p677018" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile677018"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=105049&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=105049_1602550266.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=105049&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="username">Helmet</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=105049&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e">641</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> December 19th, 2006, 5:28 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Florida, USA</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content677018"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=677018&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p677018">Re: New saurian units</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=677018&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=677018&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p677018" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=105049&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="username">Helmet</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2022-10-30T00:39:00+00:00">October 30th, 2022, 12:39 am</time> </p> <div class="content">My 2 cents: if one had its tail curved downward, it would change the profile and make it appear more distinct.</div> <div id="sig677018" class="signature">Author of:<br> DIY Campaign, Confederacy of Swamp Creatures: Big Battle 1, Confederacy of Swamp Creatures: Big Battle 2, Frogfolk Delivery Service, The Pool of Ek.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p677021" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile677021"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=139819&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="username">Talentless</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=139819&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e">35</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> June 10th, 2015, 6:43 am</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content677021"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=677021&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p677021">Re: New saurian units</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=677021&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=677021&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p677021" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=139819&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="username">Talentless</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2022-10-30T06:55:42+00:00">October 30th, 2022, 6:55 am</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=677017&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p677017"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=108075&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e">doofus-01</a> wrote: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=677017&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p677017" data-post-id="677017" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">October 29th, 2022, 11:57 pm</span></cite> - The prophet is good as is. The color and hat make it different enough, though maybe the staff could be a little gaudier. </div></blockquote> I've used the Flanker's palette for the weapon: golden base, silver tip. Both staves that I've proposed were supposed to match Flanker's general style, since it's the only level-3 Saurian unit for now.<br> <blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=677017&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p677017"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=108075&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e">doofus-01</a> wrote: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=677017&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p677017" data-post-id="677017" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">October 29th, 2022, 11:57 pm</span></cite> - I'm less sure about the seer. This is an alternative proposal for the seer - I'm not completely convinced of it, but I think it would be more easily distinguished on the map. </div></blockquote> The gem on the forehead seems a bit too bright, I'd probably go with something halfway through between our proposed sprites in terms of the headgear. I do like the new pauldrons. I'll try to propose another version this week.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p677162" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile677162"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=108075&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=108075_1585525419.jpg" width="61" height="61" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=108075&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">doofus-01</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Art Director</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=108075&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e">4167</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> January 6th, 2008, 9:27 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> USA</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content677162"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=677162&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p677162">Re: New saurian units</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=677162&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=677162&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p677162" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=108075&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">doofus-01</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2022-11-05T12:34:24+00:00">November 5th, 2022, 12:34 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=677018&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p677018"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=105049&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e">Helmet</a> wrote: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=677018&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p677018" data-post-id="677018" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">October 30th, 2022, 12:39 am</span></cite> My 2 cents: if one had its tail curved downward, it would change the profile and make it appear more distinct. </div></blockquote>Yeah, a slight change in pose would help. These saurians do move around a lot, so maybe differentiation can be found in the standing animations as well.<br> <blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=677021&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p677021"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=139819&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e">Talentless</a> wrote: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=677021&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p677021" data-post-id="677021" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">October 30th, 2022, 6:55 am</span></cite> I've used the Flanker's palette for the weapon: golden base, silver tip. Both staves that I've proposed were supposed to match Flanker's general style, since it's the only level-3 Saurian unit for now. </div></blockquote>General style seemed OK, I just thought it could go further.</div> <div id="sig677162" class="signature"><span style="font-size:70%;line-height:116%">BfW 1.12 supported, but active development only for BfW 1.13/1.14: <strong class="text-strong"><a href="http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=31348" class="postlink">Bad Moon Rising</a></strong> | <strong class="text-strong"><a href="http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=31632" class="postlink">Trinity</a></strong> | <strong class="text-strong"><a href="http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&amp;t=27740" class="postlink">Archaic Era</a></strong> |<br> | Abandoned: <a href="http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=514347#p514347" class="postlink"><span style="text-decoration:line-through">Tales of the Setting Sun</span></a><br> </span><a href="https://github.com/doofus-01" class="postlink">GitHub link for these projects</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p677374" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile677374"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=139819&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="username">Talentless</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=139819&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e">35</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> June 10th, 2015, 6:43 am</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content677374"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=677374&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p677374">Re: New saurian units</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=677374&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=677374&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p677374" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=139819&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="username">Talentless</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2022-11-13T07:58:17+00:00">November 13th, 2022, 7:58 am</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=677162&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p677162"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=108075&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e">doofus-01</a> wrote: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=677162&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p677162" data-post-id="677162" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">November 5th, 2022, 12:34 pm</span></cite> Yeah, a slight change in pose would help. These saurians do move around a lot, so maybe differentiation can be found in the standing animations as well. </div></blockquote> I've changed the tail to face downwards. I will also adjust the idle animations. Defend, magic and melee frames will also likely require some changes.<br> <br> I've also made the gem and its golden trim a bit darker for consistency with the flanker headgear. Let me know what you think.</div> <dl class="attachbox"> <dt> Attachments </dt> <dd> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=94006&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="postimage" alt="seer edit.gif" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>seer edit.gif (1.52 KiB) Viewed 13213 times</dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=94005&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="postimage" alt="seer edit.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>seer edit.png (2.65 KiB) Viewed 13215 times</dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p677407" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile677407"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=108075&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=108075_1585525419.jpg" width="61" height="61" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=108075&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">doofus-01</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Art Director</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=108075&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e">4167</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> January 6th, 2008, 9:27 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> USA</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content677407"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=677407&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p677407">Re: New saurian units</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=677407&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=677407&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p677407" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=108075&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">doofus-01</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2022-11-13T23:57:46+00:00">November 13th, 2022, 11:57 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">Looks reasonable to me, though it's hard to tell how significant the tail change will end up being, given the animations and north-facing frames. Looking forward to seeing what you do with those. Thanks.</div> <div id="sig677407" class="signature"><span style="font-size:70%;line-height:116%">BfW 1.12 supported, but active development only for BfW 1.13/1.14: <strong class="text-strong"><a href="http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=31348" class="postlink">Bad Moon Rising</a></strong> | <strong class="text-strong"><a href="http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=31632" class="postlink">Trinity</a></strong> | <strong class="text-strong"><a href="http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&amp;t=27740" class="postlink">Archaic Era</a></strong> |<br> | Abandoned: <a href="http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=514347#p514347" class="postlink"><span style="text-decoration:line-through">Tales of the Setting Sun</span></a><br> </span><a href="https://github.com/doofus-01" class="postlink">GitHub link for these projects</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p679962" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile679962"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=139819&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="username">Talentless</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=139819&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e">35</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> June 10th, 2015, 6:43 am</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content679962"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=679962&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p679962">Re: New saurian units</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=679962&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=679962&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p679962" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=139819&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="username">Talentless</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2023-02-23T17:23:14+00:00">February 23rd, 2023, 5:23 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">I'm attaching a complete set of SE animations for the new Seer sprite (<strong class="text-strong">seer-se.zip</strong>). I ended up scraping the inverted tail placement to speed up animating process and for consistency with NE pose. Please verify if anything needs adjustments.<br> <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=94639&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="postimage" alt="seer-se-bob.gif" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>seer-se-bob.gif (4.32 KiB) Viewed 12506 times</dd> </dl> </div> <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="file"> <dt><img src="./images/upload_icons/zip.gif" alt="" /> <a class="postlink" href="./download/file.php?id=94644&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e">seer-se.zip</a></dt> <dd>(35.49 KiB) Downloaded 259 times</dd> </dl> </div> Also, just to confirm, this is the sprite that I'm using as a basis for NE animations.<br> <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=94643&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="postimage" alt="seer-ne-bob1.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>seer-ne-bob1.png (992 Bytes) Viewed 12506 times</dd> </dl> </div></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p680936" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile680936"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=108075&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=108075_1585525419.jpg" width="61" height="61" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=108075&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">doofus-01</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Art Director</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=108075&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e">4167</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> January 6th, 2008, 9:27 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> USA</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content680936"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=680936&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p680936">Re: New saurian units</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=680936&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=680936&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p680936" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=108075&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">doofus-01</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2023-04-09T04:31:12+00:00">April 9th, 2023, 4:31 am</time> </p> <div class="content">These SE frames are looking good; similar to the soothsayer but not too similar. Maybe a subtle magic halo could be added as a separate layer <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_pensive.gif" width="17" height="16" alt=":hmm:" title="Pensive"><br> <br> EDIT: For "magic halos", I'm thinking some sort of sparkling aura for the healer and staff-to-hand lightning for the offensive unit. These would not be part of the sprite image frame, they can be added later.</div> <div id="sig680936" class="signature"><span style="font-size:70%;line-height:116%">BfW 1.12 supported, but active development only for BfW 1.13/1.14: <strong class="text-strong"><a href="http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=31348" class="postlink">Bad Moon Rising</a></strong> | <strong class="text-strong"><a href="http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=31632" class="postlink">Trinity</a></strong> | <strong class="text-strong"><a href="http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&amp;t=27740" class="postlink">Archaic Era</a></strong> |<br> | Abandoned: <a href="http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=514347#p514347" class="postlink"><span style="text-decoration:line-through">Tales of the Setting Sun</span></a><br> </span><a href="https://github.com/doofus-01" class="postlink">GitHub link for these projects</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p683826" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile683826"> <dt class="has-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=108064&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" style="color: #D52929;" class="username-coloured">name</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Developer</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=108064&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e">602</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> January 6th, 2008, 3:32 am</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content683826"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=683826&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p683826">Re: New saurian units</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=683826&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=683826&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e#p683826" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=108064&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" style="color: #D52929;" class="username-coloured">name</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2023-09-16T13:27:21+00:00">September 16th, 2023, 1:27 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">I just want to say I hope the Seer and Prophet sprites can be ready in time for 1.18. They really add a lot to both multiplayer and singleplayer, and feel like some of the only advancments still sorely absent from the game.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div class="action-bar bar-bottom"> <a href="./posting.php?mode=reply&amp;t=56186&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e" class="button" title="Post a reply"> <span>Post Reply</span> <i class="icon fa-reply fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i> </a> <form method="post" action="./viewtopic.php?t=56186&amp;sid=a91f46bb81085f275d041df4739c448e"> <div class="dropdown-container dropdown-container-left dropdown-button-control sort-tools"> <span title="Display and sorting options" class="button button-secondary dropdown-trigger dropdown-select"> <i class="icon fa-sort-amount-asc fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="caret"><i class="icon fa-sort-down fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i></span> </span> <div class="dropdown hidden"> <div class="pointer"><div class="pointer-inner"></div></div> <div class="dropdown-contents"> <fieldset class="display-options"> <label>Display: <select name="st" id="st"><option value="0" selected="selected">All posts</option><option value="1">1 day</option><option value="7">7 days</option><option value="14">2 weeks</option><option value="30">1 month</option><option value="90">3 months</option><option value="180">6 months</option><option value="365">1 year</option></select></label> <label>Sort by: <select name="sk" id="sk"><option value="a">Author</option><option value="t" selected="selected">Post time</option><option value="s">Subject</option></select></label> <label>Direction: <select name="sd" id="sd"><option value="a" selected="selected">Ascending</option><option value="d">Descending</option></select></label> <hr class="dashed" /> <input type="submit" class="button2" name="sort" value="Go" /> </fieldset> </div> </div> </div> </form> <div class="pagination"> 10 posts &bull; 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