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If you are not an autoconfirmed user or are an anonymous user, here are the things you can do: <ul><li>Ask an autoconfirmed user or an admin to initiate the discussion.</li> <li>Bring the discussion up in the <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:Travellers'_pub" title="Wikivoyage:Travellers' pub">Wikivoyage:Travellers' pub</a>. Remember, this page should <b>only</b> be used for discussing issues <b>directly</b> with the Main Page. Discussing Main Page matters is well within the scope of the pub.</li> <li>If the discussion gets lengthy, ask an admin to temporarily remove the protection.</li></ul></td> </tr></tbody></table> <p id="mwBA">Please read <b id="mwBQ"><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:Main_Page_guidelines" title="Wikivoyage:Main Page guidelines" id="mwBg">Main Page guidelines</a></b> before editing the <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page" title="Main Page" id="mwBw">Main Page</a>. 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Discussion of prior versions of the Main Page can be found at <b><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage_talk:Main_Page_Old" title="Wikivoyage talk:Main Page Old">Wikivoyage talk:Main Page Old</a></b> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r4916054" typeof="mw:Extension/templatestyles" about="#mwt5" data-mw='{"name":"templatestyles","attrs":{"src":"Template:Infobox/styles.css"}}'>.mw-parser-output .pp_infobox{color:#333;background-color:#effafa;font-size:90%;border:1px solid #ccc;padding-left:1em;padding-right:1em;text-align:left;width:100%}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .pp_infobox td{color:inherit!important;background-color:inherit!important}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .pp_infobox td{color:inherit!important;background-color:inherit!important}}</style></p><span about="#mwt3"> </span><table class="pp_infobox infobox" style="float:right; clear:right; margin-left: 1em; width:40%;" cellpadding="8" cellspacing="1" about="#mwt3"> <tbody><tr><td> <div style="font-weight:bold;">For archived main page discussions see:</div> <p> <br/></p> <ul><li><b><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/2022_Archive?action=edit&redlink=1" title="Talk:Main Page/2022 Archive (page does not exist)" class="new" typeof="mw:LocalizedAttrs" data-mw-i18n='{"title":{"lang":"x-page","key":"red-link-title","params":["Talk:Main Page/2022 Archive"]}}'>Talk:Main Page/2022 Archive</a></b></li> <li><b><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/2021_Archive" title="Talk:Main Page/2021 Archive">Talk:Main Page/2021 Archive</a></b></li> <li><b><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/2020_Archive" title="Talk:Main Page/2020 Archive">Talk:Main Page/2020 Archive</a></b></li> <li><b><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/2019_Archive" title="Talk:Main Page/2019 Archive">Talk:Main Page/2019 Archive</a></b></li> <li><b><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/2018_Archive" title="Talk:Main Page/2018 Archive">Talk:Main Page/2018 Archive</a></b></li> <li><b><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/2017_Archive" title="Talk:Main Page/2017 Archive">Talk:Main Page/2017 Archive</a></b></li> <li><b><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/2016_Archive" title="Talk:Main Page/2016 Archive">Talk:Main Page/2016 Archive</a></b></li> <li><b><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/2015_Archive" title="Talk:Main Page/2015 Archive">Talk:Main Page/2015 Archive</a></b></li> <li><b><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/2014_Archive" title="Talk:Main Page/2014 Archive">Talk:Main Page/2014 Archive</a></b></li> <li><b><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/2013_Archive" title="Talk:Main Page/2013 Archive">Talk:Main Page/2013 Archive</a></b></li> <li><b><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage_talk:Main_Page_Old" title="Wikivoyage talk:Main Page Old">Wikivoyage talk:Main Page Old</a></b></li> <li><b><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage_talk:Main_Page_Old/Jan_2008_to_Dec_2009" title="Wikivoyage talk:Main Page Old/Jan 2008 to Dec 2009">Wikivoyage talk:Main Page Old/Jan 2008 to Dec 2009</a></b></li> <li><b><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage_talk:Main_Page_Old/Jan_2007_to_Dec_2007" title="Wikivoyage talk:Main Page Old/Jan 2007 to Dec 2007">Wikivoyage talk:Main Page Old/Jan 2007 to Dec 2007</a></b></li> <li><b><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage_talk:Main_Page_Old/Jan_2006_to_Dec_2006" title="Wikivoyage talk:Main Page Old/Jan 2006 to Dec 2006">Wikivoyage talk:Main Page Old/Jan 2006 to Dec 2006</a></b></li> <li><b><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage_talk:Main_Page_Old/Dec_2004_to_Dec_2005" title="Wikivoyage talk:Main Page Old/Dec 2004 to Dec 2005">Wikivoyage talk:Main Page Old/Dec 2004 to Dec 2005</a></b></li> <li><b><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage_talk:Main_Page_Old/Dec_2003_to_Nov_2004" title="Wikivoyage talk:Main Page Old/Dec 2003 to Nov 2004">Wikivoyage talk:Main Page Old/Dec 2003 to Nov 2004</a></b></li></ul></td></tr> </tbody></table> <p id="mwCg"> <br id="mwCw"/></p> <p id="mwDA"> <br id="mwDQ"/></p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc" id="mwDg" data-mw='{"autoGenerated":true}'/></section><section data-mw-section-id="1" id="mwDw"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_banner_December_2021" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_banner_December_2021"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_banner_December_2021"></span>New banner December 2021<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_banner_December_2021"></span></h2></div> <p id="mwEA">There seems you be some support for choosing a new Covid-19 banner. I think that DaGizza's point about shifting the message from masking to vaccination makes a lot of sense. Here are some ideas (banner proportions to be adjusted):</p> <p id="mwEQ"><b id="mwEg">Banner A</b> (Current banner: New York Public Library Lions) </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r4523569" typeof="mw:Extension/templatestyles mw:Transclusion" about="#mwt6" id="mwEw" data-mw='{"name":"templatestyles","attrs":{"src":"Banner/styles.css"},"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"banner","href":"./Template:Banner"},"params":{"direction":{"wt":"right"},"title":{"wt":"COVID-19 pandemic"},"section":{"wt":"Stay healthy"},"section-link":{"wt":"Stay healthy"},"image":{"wt":"New York Public Library Lions Face Masks New York City COVID19 (50096257092) (cropped).jpg"},"width":{"wt":"40%"},"quote":{"wt":"Should you cancel trips? How can you protect yourself if you're travelling? 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How can you protect yourself if you're travelling? Read about how the pandemic is affecting travel.</a></div> </section></section></div> <p><span class="nolink" typeof="mw:File/Frameless" data-mw='{"caption":"COVID-19 pandemic"}'><span title="COVID-19 pandemic"><img alt="COVID-19 pandemic" resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_(50096257092)_(cropped).jpg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg/1700px-New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg" decoding="async" data-file-width="7952" data-file-height="2654" data-file-type="bitmap" height="567" width="1700" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg/2550px-New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg/3400px-New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></span></span></p> <span typeof="mw:File/Frameless" data-mw='{"caption":"COVID-19 pandemic"}'><a href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic"><img alt="COVID-19 pandemic" resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_(50096257092)_(cropped).jpg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg/1700px-New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg" decoding="async" data-file-width="7952" data-file-height="2654" data-file-type="bitmap" height="567" width="1700" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg/2550px-New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg/3400px-New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></a></span></div><span about="#mwt6"> </span> <p id="mwFg"><b id="mwFw">Banner B</b> (Injection orange shirt)</p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r4523569" about="#mwt9" typeof="mw:Extension/templatestyles mw:Transclusion" id="mwGA" data-mw='{"name":"templatestyles","attrs":{"src":"Banner/styles.css"},"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"banner","href":"./Template:Banner"},"params":{"direction":{"wt":"right"},"title":{"wt":"COVID-19 pandemic"},"section":{"wt":"Stay healthy"},"section-link":{"wt":"Stay healthy"},"image":{"wt":"COVID-19 vaccination banner B.jpg"},"width":{"wt":"40%"},"quote":{"wt":"Should you cancel trips? How can you protect yourself if you're travelling? Read about how the pandemic is affecting travel."}},"i":0}}]}'/><span about="#mwt9"> </span><div class="banner-image js-proportonal-resize notheme" about="#mwt9"> <p><span class="mw-default-size nolink interactiveIcon" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><span><img resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:Interactive_icon.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/220px-Interactive_icon.svg.png" decoding="async" data-file-width="133" data-file-height="200" data-file-type="drawing" height="331" width="220" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/330px-Interactive_icon.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/440px-Interactive_icon.svg.png 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></span></span></p> <div class="mainpage-shadowbox notheme banner-box-2 banner-box-right" style="width:40%"> <section data-mw-section-id="-1" id="mwGQ"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="COVID-19_pandemic_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-COVID-19_pandemic_2"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-COVID-19_pandemic_2"></span><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic">COVID-19 pandemic</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-COVID-19_pandemic_2"></span></h2></div> <section data-mw-section-id="-1" id="mwGg"><h3 id="Stay_healthy_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stay_healthy_2-COVID-19_pandemic_2"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stay_healthy_2-COVID-19_pandemic_2"></span><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Stay_healthy" title="Stay healthy">Stay healthy</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stay_healthy_2-COVID-19_pandemic_2"></span></h3> <div class="quote"><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic">Should you cancel trips? How can you protect yourself if you're travelling? Read about how the pandemic is affecting travel.</a></div> </section></section></div> <p><span class="nolink" typeof="mw:File/Frameless" data-mw='{"caption":"COVID-19 pandemic"}'><span title="COVID-19 pandemic"><img alt="COVID-19 pandemic" resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:COVID-19_vaccination_banner_B.jpg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/COVID-19_vaccination_banner_B.jpg" decoding="async" data-file-width="1080" data-file-height="510" data-file-type="bitmap" height="510" width="1080" class="mw-file-element"/></span></span></p> <span typeof="mw:File/Frameless" data-mw='{"caption":"COVID-19 pandemic"}'><a href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic"><img alt="COVID-19 pandemic" resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:COVID-19_vaccination_banner_B.jpg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/COVID-19_vaccination_banner_B.jpg" decoding="async" data-file-width="1080" data-file-height="510" data-file-type="bitmap" height="510" width="1080" class="mw-file-element"/></a></span></div><span about="#mwt9"> </span> <p id="mwGw"><b id="mwHA">Banner C</b> (Vaccination centre Ipswich)</p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r4523569" about="#mwt12" typeof="mw:Extension/templatestyles mw:Transclusion" id="mwHQ" data-mw='{"name":"templatestyles","attrs":{"src":"Banner/styles.css"},"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"banner","href":"./Template:Banner"},"params":{"direction":{"wt":"right"},"title":{"wt":"COVID-19 pandemic"},"section":{"wt":"Stay healthy"},"section-link":{"wt":"Stay healthy"},"image":{"wt":"COVID-19 vaccination center in Ipswich, Queensland, Australia banner C2.jpg"},"width":{"wt":"40%"},"quote":{"wt":"Should you cancel trips? How can you protect yourself if you're travelling? Read about how the pandemic is affecting travel."}},"i":0}}]}'/><span about="#mwt12"> </span><div class="banner-image js-proportonal-resize notheme" about="#mwt12"> <p><span class="mw-default-size nolink interactiveIcon" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><span><img resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:Interactive_icon.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/220px-Interactive_icon.svg.png" decoding="async" data-file-width="133" data-file-height="200" data-file-type="drawing" height="331" width="220" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/330px-Interactive_icon.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/440px-Interactive_icon.svg.png 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></span></span></p> <div class="mainpage-shadowbox notheme banner-box-2 banner-box-right" style="width:40%"> <section data-mw-section-id="-1" id="mwHg"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="COVID-19_pandemic_3" data-mw-thread-id="h-COVID-19_pandemic_3"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-COVID-19_pandemic_3"></span><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic">COVID-19 pandemic</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-COVID-19_pandemic_3"></span></h2></div> <section data-mw-section-id="-1" id="mwHw"><h3 id="Stay_healthy_3" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stay_healthy_3-COVID-19_pandemic_3"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stay_healthy_3-COVID-19_pandemic_3"></span><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Stay_healthy" title="Stay healthy">Stay healthy</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stay_healthy_3-COVID-19_pandemic_3"></span></h3> <div class="quote"><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic">Should you cancel trips? How can you protect yourself if you're travelling? Read about how the pandemic is affecting travel.</a></div> </section></section></div> <p><span class="nolink" typeof="mw:File/Frameless" data-mw='{"caption":"COVID-19 pandemic"}'><span title="COVID-19 pandemic"><img alt="COVID-19 pandemic" resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich,_Queensland,_Australia_banner_C2.jpg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich%2C_Queensland%2C_Australia_banner_C2.jpg/1700px-COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich%2C_Queensland%2C_Australia_banner_C2.jpg" decoding="async" data-file-width="3400" data-file-height="1134" data-file-type="bitmap" height="567" width="1700" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich%2C_Queensland%2C_Australia_banner_C2.jpg/2550px-COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich%2C_Queensland%2C_Australia_banner_C2.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich%2C_Queensland%2C_Australia_banner_C2.jpg 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></span></span></p> <span typeof="mw:File/Frameless" data-mw='{"caption":"COVID-19 pandemic"}'><a href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic"><img alt="COVID-19 pandemic" resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich,_Queensland,_Australia_banner_C2.jpg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich%2C_Queensland%2C_Australia_banner_C2.jpg/1700px-COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich%2C_Queensland%2C_Australia_banner_C2.jpg" decoding="async" data-file-width="3400" data-file-height="1134" data-file-type="bitmap" height="567" width="1700" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich%2C_Queensland%2C_Australia_banner_C2.jpg/2550px-COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich%2C_Queensland%2C_Australia_banner_C2.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich%2C_Queensland%2C_Australia_banner_C2.jpg 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></a></span></div><span about="#mwt12"> </span> <p id="mwIA"><b id="mwIQ">Banner D</b> (Vaccination centre Delhi)</p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r4523569" about="#mwt15" typeof="mw:Extension/templatestyles mw:Transclusion" id="mwIg" data-mw='{"name":"templatestyles","attrs":{"src":"Banner/styles.css"},"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"banner","href":"./Template:Banner"},"params":{"direction":{"wt":"right"},"title":{"wt":"COVID-19 pandemic"},"section":{"wt":"Stay healthy"},"section-link":{"wt":"Stay healthy"},"image":{"wt":"COVID-19 vaccination in Delhi banner D.jpg"},"width":{"wt":"40%"},"quote":{"wt":"Should you cancel trips? How can you protect yourself if you're travelling? Read about how the pandemic is affecting travel."}},"i":0}}]}'/><span about="#mwt15"> </span><div class="banner-image js-proportonal-resize notheme" about="#mwt15"> <p><span class="mw-default-size nolink interactiveIcon" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><span><img resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:Interactive_icon.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/220px-Interactive_icon.svg.png" decoding="async" data-file-width="133" data-file-height="200" data-file-type="drawing" height="331" width="220" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/330px-Interactive_icon.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/440px-Interactive_icon.svg.png 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></span></span></p> <div class="mainpage-shadowbox notheme banner-box-2 banner-box-right" style="width:40%"> <section data-mw-section-id="-1" id="mwIw"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="COVID-19_pandemic_4" data-mw-thread-id="h-COVID-19_pandemic_4"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-COVID-19_pandemic_4"></span><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic">COVID-19 pandemic</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-COVID-19_pandemic_4"></span></h2></div> <section data-mw-section-id="-1" id="mwJA"><h3 id="Stay_healthy_4" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stay_healthy_4-COVID-19_pandemic_4"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stay_healthy_4-COVID-19_pandemic_4"></span><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Stay_healthy" title="Stay healthy">Stay healthy</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stay_healthy_4-COVID-19_pandemic_4"></span></h3> <div class="quote"><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic">Should you cancel trips? How can you protect yourself if you're travelling? Read about how the pandemic is affecting travel.</a></div> </section></section></div> <p><span class="nolink" typeof="mw:File/Frameless" data-mw='{"caption":"COVID-19 pandemic"}'><span title="COVID-19 pandemic"><img alt="COVID-19 pandemic" resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg/1700px-COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg" decoding="async" data-file-width="3400" data-file-height="1034" data-file-type="bitmap" height="517" width="1700" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg/2550px-COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></span></span></p> <span typeof="mw:File/Frameless" data-mw='{"caption":"COVID-19 pandemic"}'><a href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic"><img alt="COVID-19 pandemic" resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg/1700px-COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg" decoding="async" data-file-width="3400" data-file-height="1034" data-file-type="bitmap" height="517" width="1700" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg/2550px-COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></a></span></div><span about="#mwt15"> </span> <p id="mwJQ"><b id="mwJg">Banner E</b> (Vaccination centre Gostiny Dvor)</p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r4523569" about="#mwt18" typeof="mw:Extension/templatestyles mw:Transclusion" id="mwJw" data-mw='{"name":"templatestyles","attrs":{"src":"Banner/styles.css"},"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"banner","href":"./Template:Banner"},"params":{"direction":{"wt":"right"},"title":{"wt":"COVID-19 pandemic"},"section":{"wt":"Stay healthy"},"section-link":{"wt":"Stay healthy"},"image":{"wt":"COVID-19 vaccination center in Gostiny Dvor banner E.jpg"},"width":{"wt":"40%"},"quote":{"wt":"Should you cancel trips? How can you protect yourself if you're travelling? Read about how the pandemic is affecting travel."}},"i":0}}]}'/><span about="#mwt18"> </span><div class="banner-image js-proportonal-resize notheme" about="#mwt18"> <p><span class="mw-default-size nolink interactiveIcon" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><span><img resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:Interactive_icon.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/220px-Interactive_icon.svg.png" decoding="async" data-file-width="133" data-file-height="200" data-file-type="drawing" height="331" width="220" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/330px-Interactive_icon.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/440px-Interactive_icon.svg.png 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></span></span></p> <div class="mainpage-shadowbox notheme banner-box-2 banner-box-right" style="width:40%"> <section data-mw-section-id="-1" id="mwKA"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="COVID-19_pandemic_5" data-mw-thread-id="h-COVID-19_pandemic_5"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-COVID-19_pandemic_5"></span><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic">COVID-19 pandemic</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-COVID-19_pandemic_5"></span></h2></div> <section data-mw-section-id="-1" id="mwKQ"><h3 id="Stay_healthy_5" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stay_healthy_5-COVID-19_pandemic_5"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stay_healthy_5-COVID-19_pandemic_5"></span><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Stay_healthy" title="Stay healthy">Stay healthy</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stay_healthy_5-COVID-19_pandemic_5"></span></h3> <div class="quote"><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic">Should you cancel trips? How can you protect yourself if you're travelling? Read about how the pandemic is affecting travel.</a></div> </section></section></div> <p><span class="nolink" typeof="mw:File/Frameless" data-mw='{"caption":"COVID-19 pandemic"}'><span title="COVID-19 pandemic"><img alt="COVID-19 pandemic" resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Gostiny_Dvor_banner_E.jpg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Gostiny_Dvor_banner_E.jpg" decoding="async" data-file-width="1700" data-file-height="567" data-file-type="bitmap" height="567" width="1700" class="mw-file-element"/></span></span></p> <span typeof="mw:File/Frameless" data-mw='{"caption":"COVID-19 pandemic"}'><a href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic"><img alt="COVID-19 pandemic" resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Gostiny_Dvor_banner_E.jpg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Gostiny_Dvor_banner_E.jpg" decoding="async" data-file-width="1700" data-file-height="567" data-file-type="bitmap" height="567" width="1700" class="mw-file-element"/></a></span></div><span about="#mwt18"> </span> <p id="mwKg"><b id="mwKw">Banner F</b> (Injection green shirt)</p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r4523569" about="#mwt21" typeof="mw:Extension/templatestyles mw:Transclusion" id="mwLA" data-mw='{"name":"templatestyles","attrs":{"src":"Banner/styles.css"},"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"banner","href":"./Template:Banner"},"params":{"direction":{"wt":"right"},"title":{"wt":"COVID-19 pandemic"},"section":{"wt":"Stay healthy"},"section-link":{"wt":"Stay healthy"},"image":{"wt":"COVID-19 vaccination banner F.jpg"},"width":{"wt":"40%"},"quote":{"wt":"Should you cancel trips? How can you protect yourself if you're travelling? Read about how the pandemic is affecting travel."}},"i":0}}]}'/><span about="#mwt21"> </span><div class="banner-image js-proportonal-resize notheme" about="#mwt21"> <p><span class="mw-default-size nolink interactiveIcon" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><span><img resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:Interactive_icon.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/220px-Interactive_icon.svg.png" decoding="async" data-file-width="133" data-file-height="200" data-file-type="drawing" height="331" width="220" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/330px-Interactive_icon.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/440px-Interactive_icon.svg.png 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></span></span></p> <div class="mainpage-shadowbox notheme banner-box-2 banner-box-right" style="width:40%"> <section data-mw-section-id="-1" id="mwLQ"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="COVID-19_pandemic_6" data-mw-thread-id="h-COVID-19_pandemic_6-2021-12-14T02:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-COVID-19_pandemic_6-2021-12-14T02:16:00.000Z"></span><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic">COVID-19 pandemic</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-COVID-19_pandemic_6-2021-12-14T02:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-SHB2000-2021-12-16T07:50:00.000Z-Ground_Zero-2021-12-14T02:16:00.000Z">2 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>5 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>5 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <section data-mw-section-id="-1" id="mwLg"><h3 id="Stay_healthy_6" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stay_healthy_6-COVID-19_pandemic_6-2021-12-14T02:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stay_healthy_6-COVID-19_pandemic_6-2021-12-14T02:16:00.000Z"></span><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Stay_healthy" title="Stay healthy">Stay healthy</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stay_healthy_6-COVID-19_pandemic_6-2021-12-14T02:16:00.000Z"></span></h3> <div class="quote"><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ground_Zero-2021-12-14T02:16:00.000Z-Stay_healthy_6"></span>Should you cancel trips? How can you protect yourself if you're travelling? Read about how the pandemic is affecting travel.</a></div> </section></section></div> <p><span class="nolink" typeof="mw:File/Frameless" data-mw='{"caption":"COVID-19 pandemic"}'><span title="COVID-19 pandemic"><img alt="COVID-19 pandemic" resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:COVID-19_vaccination_banner_F.jpg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/COVID-19_vaccination_banner_F.jpg/1700px-COVID-19_vaccination_banner_F.jpg" decoding="async" data-file-width="4250" data-file-height="1418" data-file-type="bitmap" height="567" width="1700" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/COVID-19_vaccination_banner_F.jpg/2550px-COVID-19_vaccination_banner_F.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/COVID-19_vaccination_banner_F.jpg/3400px-COVID-19_vaccination_banner_F.jpg 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></span></span></p> <span typeof="mw:File/Frameless" data-mw='{"caption":"COVID-19 pandemic"}'><a href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic"><img alt="COVID-19 pandemic" resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:COVID-19_vaccination_banner_F.jpg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/COVID-19_vaccination_banner_F.jpg/1700px-COVID-19_vaccination_banner_F.jpg" decoding="async" data-file-width="4250" data-file-height="1418" data-file-type="bitmap" height="567" width="1700" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/COVID-19_vaccination_banner_F.jpg/2550px-COVID-19_vaccination_banner_F.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/COVID-19_vaccination_banner_F.jpg/3400px-COVID-19_vaccination_banner_F.jpg 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></a></span></div><span about="#mwt21"> </span> <p id="mwLw">Comments? <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ground_Zero" title="User:Ground Zero" id="mwMA">Ground Zero</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ground_Zero" title="User talk:Ground Zero" id="mwMQ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ground_Zero-2021-12-14T02:16:00.000Z-Stay_healthy_6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:16, 14 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ground_Zero-2021-12-14T02:16:00.000Z-Stay_healthy_6"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ground_Zero-2021-12-14T02:16:00.000Z-Stay_healthy_6"></span></p> <dl id="mwMg"><dd id="mwMw"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mx._Granger-2021-12-14T04:52:00.000Z-Ground_Zero-2021-12-14T02:16:00.000Z"></span>I oppose any banner directly depicting an injection – these images can be distressing for some viewers and even discourage them from getting vaccinated. I like banner A better than any of the alternatives, honestly. Banner E is my second favorite. —<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Mx._Granger" title="User:Mx. Granger" id="mwNA">Granger</a><span typeof="mw:Entity" id="mwNQ"> </span>(<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Mx._Granger" title="User talk:Mx. Granger" id="mwNg">talk</a> <b id="mwNw">·</b> <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mx._Granger" title="Special:Contributions/Mx. Granger" id="mwOA">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Mx._Granger-2021-12-14T04:52:00.000Z-Ground_Zero-2021-12-14T02:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:52, 14 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mx._Granger-2021-12-14T04:52:00.000Z-Ground_Zero-2021-12-14T02:16:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mx._Granger-2021-12-14T04:52:00.000Z-Ground_Zero-2021-12-14T02:16:00.000Z"></span> <dl id="mwOQ"><dd id="mwOg"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AlasdairW-2021-12-14T21:32:00.000Z-Mx._Granger-2021-12-14T04:52:00.000Z"></span>A, E, C. I would rather we kept the existing banner. It is very important that we don't have an image which discourages people from getting vaccinated. I don't think any of the new images really give a positive image, and I didn't see any in the commons category which I prefer. Governments have spent large sums on carefully designed public messaging on vaccination, and I don't think we should try. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:AlasdairW" title="User:AlasdairW" id="mwOw">AlasdairW</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:AlasdairW" title="User talk:AlasdairW" id="mwPA">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-AlasdairW-2021-12-14T21:32:00.000Z-Mx._Granger-2021-12-14T04:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:32, 14 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AlasdairW-2021-12-14T21:32:00.000Z-Mx._Granger-2021-12-14T04:52:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AlasdairW-2021-12-14T21:32:00.000Z-Mx._Granger-2021-12-14T04:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl id="mwPQ"><dd id="mwPg"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SelfieCity-2021-12-15T02:36:00.000Z-AlasdairW-2021-12-14T21:32:00.000Z"></span>Focusing on the travel component of COVID-19, masks are more travel relevant than vaccines, which people normally receive near home. I would keep the current banner but a picture of a vaccination center is OK. A vaccine pass at an airport could work. <small id="mwPw">--Comment by </small> <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:SelfieCity" title="User:SelfieCity" id="mwQA">Selfie City</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:SelfieCity" title="User talk:SelfieCity" id="mwQQ">talk</a>) (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SelfieCity" title="Special:Contributions/SelfieCity" id="mwQg">contributions</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-SelfieCity-2021-12-15T02:36:00.000Z-AlasdairW-2021-12-14T21:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:36, 15 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SelfieCity-2021-12-15T02:36:00.000Z-AlasdairW-2021-12-14T21:32:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SelfieCity-2021-12-15T02:36:00.000Z-AlasdairW-2021-12-14T21:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd id="mwQw"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SHB2000-2021-12-16T07:50:00.000Z-Ground_Zero-2021-12-14T02:16:00.000Z"></span>Banners C or E for me. I'm tired of seeing A all the time so hence why I even proposed we change that banner back in October. <span style="font-family:BlinkMacSystemFont" id="mwRA"><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:SHB2000" title="User:SHB2000" id="mwRQ">SHB2000</a> <small id="mwRg">(<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:SHB2000" title="User talk:SHB2000" id="mwRw">talk</a> <span typeof="mw:Entity" id="mwSA">|</span> <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SHB2000" title="Special:Contributions/SHB2000" id="mwSQ">contribs</a> <span typeof="mw:Entity" id="mwSg">|</span> <a rel="mw:WikiLink/Interwiki" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:SHB2000" title="m:User:SHB2000" class="extiw" id="mwSw">meta.wikimedia</a>)</small></span> <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-SHB2000-2021-12-16T07:50:00.000Z-Ground_Zero-2021-12-14T02:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:50, 16 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SHB2000-2021-12-16T07:50:00.000Z-Ground_Zero-2021-12-14T02:16:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SHB2000-2021-12-16T07:50:00.000Z-Ground_Zero-2021-12-14T02:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> </section><section data-mw-section-id="2" id="mwTA"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_COVID_banner?" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_COVID_banner?-2022-04-03T19:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_COVID_banner?-2022-04-03T19:30:00.000Z"></span><span id="New_COVID_banner.3F" typeof="mw:FallbackId"></span>New COVID banner?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_COVID_banner?-2022-04-03T19:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Ground_Zero-2022-06-20T00:30:00.000Z-New_COVID_banner?">2 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p id="mwTQ"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HighwayTyper-2022-04-03T19:30:00.000Z-New_COVID_banner?"></span>Again, this time almost a year from the last change. My preference is a vaccination center or a vaccine passport. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:HighwayTyper?action=edit&redlink=1" title="User:HighwayTyper (page does not exist)" class="new" typeof="mw:LocalizedAttrs" id="mwTg" data-mw-i18n='{"title":{"lang":"x-page","key":"red-link-title","params":["User:HighwayTyper"]}}'>HighwayTyper</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:HighwayTyper?action=edit&redlink=1" title="User talk:HighwayTyper (page does not exist)" class="new" typeof="mw:LocalizedAttrs" id="mwTw" data-mw-i18n='{"title":{"lang":"x-page","key":"red-link-title","params":["User talk:HighwayTyper"]}}'>talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-HighwayTyper-2022-04-03T19:30:00.000Z-New_COVID_banner?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:30, 3 April 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HighwayTyper-2022-04-03T19:30:00.000Z-New_COVID_banner?"><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HighwayTyper-2022-04-03T19:30:00.000Z-New_COVID_banner?"></span></p> <p id="mwUA"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ground_Zero-2022-06-20T00:30:00.000Z-New_COVID_banner?"></span>I proposed two new banners above that I will propose again: <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ground_Zero" title="User:Ground Zero" id="mwUQ">Ground Zero</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ground_Zero" title="User talk:Ground Zero" id="mwUg">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ground_Zero-2022-06-20T00:30:00.000Z-New_COVID_banner?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:30, 20 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ground_Zero-2022-06-20T00:30:00.000Z-New_COVID_banner?"><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ground_Zero-2022-06-20T00:30:00.000Z-New_COVID_banner?"></span></p> <p id="mwUw"><b id="mwVA">Banner A</b> (Current banner: New York Public Library Lions) </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r4523569" about="#mwt24" typeof="mw:Extension/templatestyles mw:Transclusion" id="mwVQ" data-mw='{"name":"templatestyles","attrs":{"src":"Banner/styles.css"},"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"banner","href":"./Template:Banner"},"params":{"direction":{"wt":"right"},"title":{"wt":"COVID-19 pandemic"},"section":{"wt":"Stay healthy"},"section-link":{"wt":"Stay healthy"},"image":{"wt":"New York Public Library Lions Face Masks New York City COVID19 (50096257092) (cropped).jpg"},"width":{"wt":"40%"},"quote":{"wt":"Should you cancel trips? How can you protect yourself if you're travelling? Read about how the pandemic is affecting travel."}},"i":0}}]}'/><span about="#mwt24"> </span><div class="banner-image js-proportonal-resize notheme" about="#mwt24"> <p><span class="mw-default-size nolink interactiveIcon" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><span><img resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:Interactive_icon.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/220px-Interactive_icon.svg.png" decoding="async" data-file-width="133" data-file-height="200" data-file-type="drawing" height="331" width="220" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/330px-Interactive_icon.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/440px-Interactive_icon.svg.png 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></span></span></p> <div class="mainpage-shadowbox notheme banner-box-2 banner-box-right" style="width:40%"> <section data-mw-section-id="-1" id="mwVg"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="COVID-19_pandemic_7" data-mw-thread-id="h-COVID-19_pandemic_7"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-COVID-19_pandemic_7"></span><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic">COVID-19 pandemic</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-COVID-19_pandemic_7"></span></h2></div> <section data-mw-section-id="-1" id="mwVw"><h3 id="Stay_healthy_7" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stay_healthy_7-COVID-19_pandemic_7"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stay_healthy_7-COVID-19_pandemic_7"></span><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Stay_healthy" title="Stay healthy">Stay healthy</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stay_healthy_7-COVID-19_pandemic_7"></span></h3> <div class="quote"><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic">Should you cancel trips? How can you protect yourself if you're travelling? Read about how the pandemic is affecting travel.</a></div> </section></section></div> <p><span class="nolink" typeof="mw:File/Frameless" data-mw='{"caption":"COVID-19 pandemic"}'><span title="COVID-19 pandemic"><img alt="COVID-19 pandemic" resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_(50096257092)_(cropped).jpg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg/1700px-New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg" decoding="async" data-file-width="7952" data-file-height="2654" data-file-type="bitmap" height="567" width="1700" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg/2550px-New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg/3400px-New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></span></span></p> <span typeof="mw:File/Frameless" data-mw='{"caption":"COVID-19 pandemic"}'><a href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic"><img alt="COVID-19 pandemic" resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_(50096257092)_(cropped).jpg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg/1700px-New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg" decoding="async" data-file-width="7952" data-file-height="2654" data-file-type="bitmap" height="567" width="1700" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg/2550px-New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg/3400px-New_York_Public_Library_Lions_Face_Masks_New_York_City_COVID19_%2850096257092%29_%28cropped%29.jpg 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></a></span></div><span about="#mwt24"> </span> <p id="mwWA"><b id="mwWQ">Banner C</b> (Vaccination centre Ipswich)</p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r4523569" about="#mwt27" typeof="mw:Extension/templatestyles mw:Transclusion" id="mwWg" data-mw='{"name":"templatestyles","attrs":{"src":"Banner/styles.css"},"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"banner","href":"./Template:Banner"},"params":{"direction":{"wt":"right"},"title":{"wt":"COVID-19 pandemic"},"section":{"wt":"Stay healthy"},"section-link":{"wt":"Stay healthy"},"image":{"wt":"COVID-19 vaccination center in Ipswich, Queensland, Australia banner C2.jpg"},"width":{"wt":"40%"},"quote":{"wt":"Should you cancel trips? How can you protect yourself if you're travelling? Read about how the pandemic is affecting travel."}},"i":0}}]}'/><span about="#mwt27"> </span><div class="banner-image js-proportonal-resize notheme" about="#mwt27"> <p><span class="mw-default-size nolink interactiveIcon" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><span><img resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:Interactive_icon.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/220px-Interactive_icon.svg.png" decoding="async" data-file-width="133" data-file-height="200" data-file-type="drawing" height="331" width="220" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/330px-Interactive_icon.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/440px-Interactive_icon.svg.png 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></span></span></p> <div class="mainpage-shadowbox notheme banner-box-2 banner-box-right" style="width:40%"> <section data-mw-section-id="-1" id="mwWw"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="COVID-19_pandemic_8" data-mw-thread-id="h-COVID-19_pandemic_8"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-COVID-19_pandemic_8"></span><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic">COVID-19 pandemic</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-COVID-19_pandemic_8"></span></h2></div> <section data-mw-section-id="-1" id="mwXA"><h3 id="Stay_healthy_8" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stay_healthy_8-COVID-19_pandemic_8"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stay_healthy_8-COVID-19_pandemic_8"></span><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Stay_healthy" title="Stay healthy">Stay healthy</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stay_healthy_8-COVID-19_pandemic_8"></span></h3> <div class="quote"><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic">Should you cancel trips? How can you protect yourself if you're travelling? Read about how the pandemic is affecting travel.</a></div> </section></section></div> <p><span class="nolink" typeof="mw:File/Frameless" data-mw='{"caption":"COVID-19 pandemic"}'><span title="COVID-19 pandemic"><img alt="COVID-19 pandemic" resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich,_Queensland,_Australia_banner_C2.jpg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich%2C_Queensland%2C_Australia_banner_C2.jpg/1700px-COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich%2C_Queensland%2C_Australia_banner_C2.jpg" decoding="async" data-file-width="3400" data-file-height="1134" data-file-type="bitmap" height="567" width="1700" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich%2C_Queensland%2C_Australia_banner_C2.jpg/2550px-COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich%2C_Queensland%2C_Australia_banner_C2.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich%2C_Queensland%2C_Australia_banner_C2.jpg 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></span></span></p> <span typeof="mw:File/Frameless" data-mw='{"caption":"COVID-19 pandemic"}'><a href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic"><img alt="COVID-19 pandemic" resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich,_Queensland,_Australia_banner_C2.jpg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich%2C_Queensland%2C_Australia_banner_C2.jpg/1700px-COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich%2C_Queensland%2C_Australia_banner_C2.jpg" decoding="async" data-file-width="3400" data-file-height="1134" data-file-type="bitmap" height="567" width="1700" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich%2C_Queensland%2C_Australia_banner_C2.jpg/2550px-COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich%2C_Queensland%2C_Australia_banner_C2.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/COVID-19_vaccination_center_in_Ipswich%2C_Queensland%2C_Australia_banner_C2.jpg 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></a></span></div><span about="#mwt27"> </span> <p id="mwXQ"><b id="mwXg">Banner D</b> (Vaccination centre Delhi)</p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r4523569" about="#mwt30" typeof="mw:Extension/templatestyles mw:Transclusion" id="mwXw" data-mw='{"name":"templatestyles","attrs":{"src":"Banner/styles.css"},"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"banner","href":"./Template:Banner"},"params":{"direction":{"wt":"right"},"title":{"wt":"COVID-19 pandemic"},"section":{"wt":"Stay healthy"},"section-link":{"wt":"Stay healthy"},"image":{"wt":"COVID-19 vaccination in Delhi banner D.jpg"},"width":{"wt":"40%"},"quote":{"wt":"Should you cancel trips? How can you protect yourself if you're travelling? Read about how the pandemic is affecting travel."}},"i":0}}]}'/><span about="#mwt30"> </span><div class="banner-image js-proportonal-resize notheme" about="#mwt30"> <p><span class="mw-default-size nolink interactiveIcon" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><span><img resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:Interactive_icon.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/220px-Interactive_icon.svg.png" decoding="async" data-file-width="133" data-file-height="200" data-file-type="drawing" height="331" width="220" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/330px-Interactive_icon.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Interactive_icon.svg/440px-Interactive_icon.svg.png 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></span></span></p> <div class="mainpage-shadowbox notheme banner-box-2 banner-box-right" style="width:40%"> <section data-mw-section-id="-1" id="mwYA"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="COVID-19_pandemic_9" data-mw-thread-id="h-COVID-19_pandemic_9-2022-06-20T01:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-COVID-19_pandemic_9-2022-06-20T01:53:00.000Z"></span><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic">COVID-19 pandemic</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-COVID-19_pandemic_9-2022-06-20T01:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-SHB2000-20221102014900-Ground_Zero-20221102014100">2 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>50 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>13 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <section data-mw-section-id="-1" id="mwYQ"><h3 id="Stay_healthy_9" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stay_healthy_9-COVID-19_pandemic_9-2022-06-20T01:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stay_healthy_9-COVID-19_pandemic_9-2022-06-20T01:53:00.000Z"></span><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Stay_healthy" title="Stay healthy">Stay healthy</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stay_healthy_9-COVID-19_pandemic_9-2022-06-20T01:53:00.000Z"></span></h3> <div class="quote"><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ikan_Kekek-2022-06-20T01:53:00.000Z-Stay_healthy_9"></span>Should you cancel trips? How can you protect yourself if you're travelling? Read about how the pandemic is affecting travel.</a></div> </section></section></div> <p><span class="nolink" typeof="mw:File/Frameless" data-mw='{"caption":"COVID-19 pandemic"}'><span title="COVID-19 pandemic"><img alt="COVID-19 pandemic" resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg/1700px-COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg" decoding="async" data-file-width="3400" data-file-height="1034" data-file-type="bitmap" height="517" width="1700" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg/2550px-COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></span></span></p> <span typeof="mw:File/Frameless" data-mw='{"caption":"COVID-19 pandemic"}'><a href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic"><img alt="COVID-19 pandemic" resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg/1700px-COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg" decoding="async" data-file-width="3400" data-file-height="1034" data-file-type="bitmap" height="517" width="1700" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg/2550px-COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/COVID-19_vaccination_in_Delhi_banner_D.jpg 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></a></span></div><span about="#mwt30"> </span> <dl id="mwYg"><dd id="mwYw">We can switch to Banner C if you like. Banner D is not as good because it's washed out. In addition, it's good to see people wearing masks as well as waiting to get vaccinated. -- <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ikan_Kekek" title="User:Ikan Kekek" id="mwZA">Ikan Kekek</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ikan_Kekek" title="User talk:Ikan Kekek" id="mwZQ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ikan_Kekek-2022-06-20T01:53:00.000Z-Stay_healthy_9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:53, 20 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ikan_Kekek-2022-06-20T01:53:00.000Z-Stay_healthy_9"><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ikan_Kekek-2022-06-20T01:53:00.000Z-Stay_healthy_9"></span> <dl id="mwZg"><dd id="mwZw"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SHB2000-2022-06-20T07:24:00.000Z-Ikan_Kekek-2022-06-20T01:53:00.000Z"></span>Funnily enough, I'm in <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Ipswich_(Queensland)" title="Ipswich (Queensland)" id="mwaA">Ipswich</a>, Qld as I write this message (where banner C was taken), but I like C as I just can't stand that comma that shouldn't be there in banner D for some reason. --<span style="font-family:BlinkMacSystemFont" id="mwaQ"><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:SHB2000" title="User:SHB2000" id="mwag">SHB2000</a> <small id="mwaw">(<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:SHB2000" title="User talk:SHB2000" id="mwbA">talk</a> <span typeof="mw:Entity" id="mwbQ">|</span> <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SHB2000" title="Special:Contributions/SHB2000" id="mwbg">contribs</a> <span typeof="mw:Entity" id="mwbw">|</span> <a rel="mw:WikiLink/Interwiki" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:SHB2000" title="m:User:SHB2000" class="extiw" id="mwcA">meta.wikimedia</a>)</small></span> <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-SHB2000-2022-06-20T07:24:00.000Z-Ikan_Kekek-2022-06-20T01:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:24, 20 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SHB2000-2022-06-20T07:24:00.000Z-Ikan_Kekek-2022-06-20T01:53:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SHB2000-2022-06-20T07:24:00.000Z-Ikan_Kekek-2022-06-20T01:53:00.000Z"></span> <dl id="mwcQ"><dd id="mwcg"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThunderingTyphoons!-2022-06-20T10:32:00.000Z-SHB2000-2022-06-20T07:24:00.000Z"></span>Banner C looks good.--<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:ThunderingTyphoons!" title="User:ThunderingTyphoons!" id="mwcw">ThunderingTyphoons!</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:ThunderingTyphoons!" title="User talk:ThunderingTyphoons!" id="mwdA">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-ThunderingTyphoons!-2022-06-20T10:32:00.000Z-SHB2000-2022-06-20T07:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:32, 20 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThunderingTyphoons!-2022-06-20T10:32:00.000Z-SHB2000-2022-06-20T07:24:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThunderingTyphoons!-2022-06-20T10:32:00.000Z-SHB2000-2022-06-20T07:24:00.000Z"></span> <dl id="mwdQ"><dd id="mwdg"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SelfieCity-2022-06-20T12:27:00.000Z-ThunderingTyphoons!-2022-06-20T10:32:00.000Z"></span>Banner C is the best as it most accurately depicts people's interaction with COVID-related travel concerns at the moment. Outside <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/China" title="China" id="mwdw">China</a>, which is a case of its own, concerns over "paperwork" phone applications like vaccine passes is the main concern while traveling. Experience from other people I know, as I still haven't traveled internationally since 2020, is that their greatest concern is knowing how to use the vaccine pass or NHS - depending on the country - applications at checkpoints. It's as though this has become another attribute of airport travel, in addition to security and luggage, and COVID may overtime (if vaccine passes remain in place) become an air travel concern like any other.</dd> <dd id="mweA">Here in Central Florida, there is a large difference between the level of concern people have when travelling, vs. when not travelling. Probably 70-80% of travelers at airports are wearing masks vs. about 2-5% of those everywhere else. So a picture showing people wearing masks at a vaccine pass checkpoint while travelling is a widely accurate portrayal of concern among the general population. <small id="mweQ">--Comment by </small> <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:SelfieCity" title="User:SelfieCity" id="mweg">Selfie City</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:SelfieCity" title="User talk:SelfieCity" id="mwew">talk</a>) (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SelfieCity" title="Special:Contributions/SelfieCity" id="mwfA">contributions</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-SelfieCity-2022-06-20T12:27:00.000Z-ThunderingTyphoons!-2022-06-20T10:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:27, 20 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SelfieCity-2022-06-20T12:27:00.000Z-ThunderingTyphoons!-2022-06-20T10:32:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SelfieCity-2022-06-20T12:27:00.000Z-ThunderingTyphoons!-2022-06-20T10:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p id="mwfQ"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ground_Zero-2022-06-25T15:40:00.000Z-Stay_healthy_9"></span>If there are no objections in the next couple of days, I will make the switch to Banner C. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ground_Zero" title="User:Ground Zero" id="mwfg">Ground Zero</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ground_Zero" title="User talk:Ground Zero" id="mwfw">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ground_Zero-2022-06-25T15:40:00.000Z-Stay_healthy_9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:40, 25 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ground_Zero-2022-06-25T15:40:00.000Z-Stay_healthy_9"><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ground_Zero-2022-06-25T15:40:00.000Z-Stay_healthy_9"></span></p> <section data-mw-section-id="3" id="mwgA"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading3" id="mwAA"><h3 id="Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner?-COVID-19_pandemic_9-20220901120300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner?-COVID-19_pandemic_9-20220901120300"></span><span id="Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner.3F" typeof="mw:FallbackId"></span>Is it time to drop the COVID-19 banner?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner?-COVID-19_pandemic_9-20220901120300"></span></h3></div> <p id="mwgQ"><a rel="mw:ExtLink nofollow" href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-cases.html" class="external text" id="mwgg"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yvwv-20220901120300-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner?"></span>The infection rate is declining on all continents</a>, and fewer and fewer countries have restrictions due to the virus. Dropping the banner from the main page might be too early, but sooner or later, it will no be the dominant issue for international travel. Which measure should we use to decrease exposure of Covid information? Reported cases worldwide? Death rate? Number of countries with restrictions? /<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Yvwv" title="User:Yvwv" id="mwgw">Yvwv</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Yvwv" title="User talk:Yvwv" id="mwhA">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Yvwv-20220901120300-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:03, 1 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yvwv-20220901120300-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner?"><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yvwv-20220901120300-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner?"></span></p> <dl id="mwhQ"><dd id="mwhg"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ground_Zero-20220901121100-Yvwv-20220901120300"></span>I see that I never made the banner change. I'll do that tomorrow if there is no objection.</dd> <dd id="mwhw">On the question of dropping the banner, I <b id="mwiA">support</b> doing so. I would suggest changing the "Bottom box" to replace "<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:COVID-19_message" title="Wikivoyage:COVID-19 message" id="mwiQ">Message to travellers on COVID-19</a>" by a link to the <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic" id="mwig">COVID-19 pandemic</a> page as a way of keeping that information linked from the Main Page. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ground_Zero" title="User:Ground Zero" id="mwiw">Ground Zero</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ground_Zero" title="User talk:Ground Zero" id="mwjA">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ground_Zero-20220901121100-Yvwv-20220901120300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:11, 1 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ground_Zero-20220901121100-Yvwv-20220901120300"><span id="ooui-php-14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ground_Zero-20220901121100-Yvwv-20220901120300"></span></dd> <dd id="mwjQ"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ground_Zero-20220901123900-Yvwv-20220901120300"></span>It could look like this: <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/Alternative_Main_Page" title="Talk:Main Page/Alternative Main Page" id="mwjg">Talk:Main Page/Alternative Main Page</a>. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ground_Zero" title="User:Ground Zero" id="mwjw">Ground Zero</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ground_Zero" title="User talk:Ground Zero" id="mwkA">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ground_Zero-20220901123900-Yvwv-20220901120300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:39, 1 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ground_Zero-20220901123900-Yvwv-20220901120300"><span id="ooui-php-15" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ground_Zero-20220901123900-Yvwv-20220901120300"></span> <dl id="mwkQ"><dd id="mwkg"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SHB2000-20220901124900-Ground_Zero-20220901123900"></span>I like your proposed version better. I know I'll spark some controversy by saying this, but Covid is really not the most important issue anymore – certainly not anymore to merit a big banner that grabs one's attention when there are other issues of greater importance today (and I'm saying this having contracted <i id="mwkw">The Virus</i> twice). I know <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/China" title="China" id="mwlA">China</a> and a few other countries still have overly harsh restrictions, but these can be handled on individual country pages. <span style="font-family:BlinkMacSystemFont; font-size: 14px" id="mwlQ"><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:SHB2000" title="User:SHB2000" id="mwlg"><span style="color:#0b6487" id="mwlw">SHB2000</span></a> <small id="mwmA">(<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:SHB2000" title="User talk:SHB2000" id="mwmQ">talk</a> <span typeof="mw:Entity" id="mwmg">|</span> <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SHB2000" title="Special:Contributions/SHB2000" id="mwmw">contribs</a> <span typeof="mw:Entity" id="mwnA">|</span> <a rel="mw:WikiLink/Interwiki" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:SHB2000" title="m:User:SHB2000" class="extiw" id="mwnQ">meta</a>)</small></span> <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-SHB2000-20220901124900-Ground_Zero-20220901123900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:49, 1 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SHB2000-20220901124900-Ground_Zero-20220901123900"><span id="ooui-php-16" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SHB2000-20220901124900-Ground_Zero-20220901123900"></span> <dl id="mwng"><dd id="mwnw"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_dog2-20220901162300-SHB2000-20220901124900"></span>I'm ambivlalent. Most of the world is opening up, but China, Taiwan and Japan are still closed to independent visitors. I have heard news though that China is reopening for international students (with the necessary quarantine of course) <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:The_dog2" title="User:The dog2" id="mwoA">The dog2</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:The_dog2" title="User talk:The dog2" id="mwoQ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-The_dog2-20220901162300-SHB2000-20220901124900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:23, 1 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_dog2-20220901162300-SHB2000-20220901124900"><span id="ooui-php-17" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_dog2-20220901162300-SHB2000-20220901124900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd id="mwog"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WhatamIdoing-20220901163000-Yvwv-20220901120300"></span>I like the idea of reducing its prominence. I love the question of what metrics to consider for removing it.</dd> <dd id="mwow">My suggestion is that we pick a total number of cases worldwide, by daily average. Past troughs in the <i id="mwpA">New York Times</i> database were around 350K to 400K. Maybe we should say under 300K for two weeks? I think that the number of cases will matter more to travelers than the death rate, especially since the deaths have shifted back to people who don't necessarily travel very much (e.g., people who are seriously ill with something else).</dd> <dd id="mwpQ">Another metric would be: Does any large country require anything disruptive for international travelers (like mandatory quarantines of unvaccinated travelers, not just proof of vaccination or a negative test, which I think people are accustomed to by now)? If not, then we don't need to have a large banner on the page.</dd> <dd id="mwpg">Third, I think it's worth considering the amount of apparent demand, according to page views. You can <a rel="mw:ExtLink nofollow" href="https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikivoyage.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2020-01&end=2022-07&pages=COVID-19_pandemic" class="external text" id="mwpw">see the page view counts here</a>. They've been running just above 1200 page views per month for a few months. They've only been this low once (last December), and they're about half the peak level. The more general links (e.g., <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Stay_healthy" title="Stay healthy" id="mwqA">Stay healthy</a>, <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Previous_Featured_travel_topics" title="Previous Featured travel topics" id="mwqQ">Previous Featured travel topics</a>, etc.) all <a rel="mw:ExtLink nofollow" href="https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikivoyage.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2020-01&end=2022-07&pages=Stay_healthy%7CPrevious_Destinations_of_the_month%7CPrevious_Featured_travel_topics%7CPreviously_Off_the_beaten_path" class="external text" id="mwqg">seem to track pretty evenly</a>, although the COVID-related link to <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Stay_healthy" title="Stay healthy" id="mwqw">Stay healthy</a> has trended up recently, compared to the others. I think this level of engagement suggests keeping the link somewhere on the page, but the reduced demand (i.e., half what it used to be) suggests making it less prominent. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:WhatamIdoing" title="User:WhatamIdoing" id="mwrA">WhatamIdoing</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing" title="User talk:WhatamIdoing" id="mwrQ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-WhatamIdoing-20220901163000-Yvwv-20220901120300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:30, 1 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WhatamIdoing-20220901163000-Yvwv-20220901120300"><span id="ooui-php-18" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WhatamIdoing-20220901163000-Yvwv-20220901120300"></span> <dl id="mwrg"><dd id="mwrw"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_dog2-20220901163300-WhatamIdoing-20220901163000"></span>China still has a zero COVID policy, so yes, they can still lock down the entire province at short notice if they detect any cases. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:The_dog2" title="User:The dog2" id="mwsA">The dog2</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:The_dog2" title="User talk:The dog2" id="mwsQ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-The_dog2-20220901163300-WhatamIdoing-20220901163000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:33, 1 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_dog2-20220901163300-WhatamIdoing-20220901163000"><span id="ooui-php-19" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_dog2-20220901163300-WhatamIdoing-20220901163000"></span> <dl id="mwsg"><dd id="mwsw"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ground_Zero-20220901171600-The_dog2-20220901163300"></span>Chengdu has just locked down 21 million people. That argues for maintaining the prominence of COVID-19 information on the China, Taiwan and Japan articles, not for maintaining it on the main page. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ground_Zero" title="User:Ground Zero" id="mwtA">Ground Zero</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ground_Zero" title="User talk:Ground Zero" id="mwtQ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ground_Zero-20220901171600-The_dog2-20220901163300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:16, 1 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ground_Zero-20220901171600-The_dog2-20220901163300"><span id="ooui-php-20" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ground_Zero-20220901171600-The_dog2-20220901163300"></span> <dl id="mwtg"><dd id="mwtw"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20220901180000-Ground_Zero-20220901171600"></span>The alternative main page looks good, but I think it is too soon to make the change. There are still many people dying of COVID, and not all of them are obviously ill with something else. For example, a former high school classmate of mine died unexpectedly in his sleep at the age of 56 last month. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ikan_Kekek" title="User:Ikan Kekek" id="mwuA">Ikan Kekek</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ikan_Kekek" title="User talk:Ikan Kekek" id="mwuQ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ikan_Kekek-20220901180000-Ground_Zero-20220901171600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:00, 1 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20220901180000-Ground_Zero-20220901171600"><span id="ooui-php-21" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ikan_Kekek-20220901180000-Ground_Zero-20220901171600"></span> <dl id="mwug"><dd id="mwuw"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AlasdairW-20220901204000-Ikan_Kekek-20220901180000"></span>I think we should start by changing the blurb. "Should you cancel trips?" are words from 2020, not 2022. Now it is more about balancing the risk and avoiding trip disruption - "Plan your trip carefully". Personally I have been considering booking a long haul trip in December, but am probably going to postpone it as there is still a high chance of disruption (and a cheap flight via China isn't an option). <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:AlasdairW" title="User:AlasdairW" id="mwvA">AlasdairW</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:AlasdairW" title="User talk:AlasdairW" id="mwvQ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-AlasdairW-20220901204000-Ikan_Kekek-20220901180000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:40, 1 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AlasdairW-20220901204000-Ikan_Kekek-20220901180000"><span id="ooui-php-22" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AlasdairW-20220901204000-Ikan_Kekek-20220901180000"></span> <dl id="mwvg"><dd id="mwvw"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20220901204200-AlasdairW-20220901204000"></span>I agree on the blurb. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ikan_Kekek" title="User:Ikan Kekek" id="mwwA">Ikan Kekek</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ikan_Kekek" title="User talk:Ikan Kekek" id="mwwQ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ikan_Kekek-20220901204200-AlasdairW-20220901204000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:42, 1 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20220901204200-AlasdairW-20220901204000"><span id="ooui-php-23" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ikan_Kekek-20220901204200-AlasdairW-20220901204000"></span> <dl id="mwwg"><dd id="mwww"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DaGizza-20220902004800-Ikan_Kekek-20220901204200"></span>I agree with WhatamIdoing and AlasdairW's comments. I support making COVID less prominent but not removing it entirely for now. I also agree with changing the blurb and messaging. If a more dangerous variant comes along or if the northern hemisphere winter sees an upsurge in hospitalisations and deaths (with rules and restrictions reintroduced across many countries), we can reinstate the banner and original messaging. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:DaGizza" title="User:DaGizza" id="mwxA"><span style="color:teal" id="mwxQ">Gizza</span></a><sup id="mwxg"> (<i id="mwxw"><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:DaGizza" title="User talk:DaGizza" id="mwyA"><span style="color:teal" id="mwyQ">roam</span></a></i>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-DaGizza-20220902004800-Ikan_Kekek-20220901204200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:48, 2 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DaGizza-20220902004800-Ikan_Kekek-20220901204200"><span id="ooui-php-24" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DaGizza-20220902004800-Ikan_Kekek-20220901204200"></span> <dl id="mwyg"><dd id="mwyw"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ChubbyWimbus-20220902115400-DaGizza-20220902004800"></span>I agree with giving it less prominence. The average person is no longer concerned about covid as a life-threatening illness but rather wants to check what regulations, restrictions, requirements, and annoyances they may face when traveling. I don't think number counts really matter anymore either. The banner should only be brought back if a significant number of countries (or if countries that are significant destinations in the Anglosphere) reintroduce border closings or major restrictions. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:ChubbyWimbus" title="User:ChubbyWimbus" id="mwzA">ChubbyWimbus</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:ChubbyWimbus" title="User talk:ChubbyWimbus" id="mwzQ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-ChubbyWimbus-20220902115400-DaGizza-20220902004800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:54, 2 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ChubbyWimbus-20220902115400-DaGizza-20220902004800"><span id="ooui-php-25" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ChubbyWimbus-20220902115400-DaGizza-20220902004800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p id="mwzg"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ground_Zero-20220902142800-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner?"></span>I proposed this approach <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/Alternative_Main_Page" title="Talk:Main Page/Alternative Main Page" id="mwzw">Talk:Main Page/Alternative Main Page</a> to meet the aim of "making it less prominent by not removing it". This removes the banner, and puts the link to COVID-19 information prominently in the "Bottom Box". <span about="#mwt33" typeof="mw:Transclusion" id="mw0A" data-mw='{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"ping","href":"./Template:Ping"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"DaGizza"},"2":{"wt":"ChubbyWimbus"}},"i":0}}]}'>@</span><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:DaGizza" title="User:DaGizza" about="#mwt33">DaGizza</a><span about="#mwt33">, </span><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:ChubbyWimbus" title="User:ChubbyWimbus" about="#mwt33">ChubbyWimbus</a><span about="#mwt33">:</span> is this what you are looking for?</p> <p id="mw0Q">In the interim, I will replace the banner with the new one, and change the wording to AlasdairW 's proposal. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ground_Zero" title="User:Ground Zero" id="mw0g">Ground Zero</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ground_Zero" title="User talk:Ground Zero" id="mw0w">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ground_Zero-20220902142800-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:28, 2 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ground_Zero-20220902142800-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner?"><span id="ooui-php-26" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ground_Zero-20220902142800-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner?"></span></p> <dl id="mw1A"><dd id="mw1Q"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WhatamIdoing-20220902154300-Ground_Zero-20220902142800"></span>That sounds good to me. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:WhatamIdoing" title="User:WhatamIdoing" id="mw1g">WhatamIdoing</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing" title="User talk:WhatamIdoing" id="mw1w">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-WhatamIdoing-20220902154300-Ground_Zero-20220902142800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:43, 2 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WhatamIdoing-20220902154300-Ground_Zero-20220902142800"><span id="ooui-php-27" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WhatamIdoing-20220902154300-Ground_Zero-20220902142800"></span> <dl id="mw2A"><dd id="mw2Q"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DaGizza-20220903033300-WhatamIdoing-20220902154300"></span>Yes, looks good. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:DaGizza" title="User:DaGizza" id="mw2g"><span style="color:teal" id="mw2w">Gizza</span></a><sup id="mw3A"> (<i id="mw3Q"><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:DaGizza" title="User talk:DaGizza" id="mw3g"><span style="color:teal" id="mw3w">roam</span></a></i>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-DaGizza-20220903033300-WhatamIdoing-20220902154300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:33, 3 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DaGizza-20220903033300-WhatamIdoing-20220902154300"><span id="ooui-php-28" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DaGizza-20220903033300-WhatamIdoing-20220902154300"></span> <dl id="mw4A"><dd id="mw4Q"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mx._Granger-20220903043500-DaGizza-20220903033300"></span>I support this change too. —<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Mx._Granger" title="User:Mx. Granger" id="mw4g">Granger</a><span typeof="mw:Entity" id="mw4w"> </span>(<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Mx._Granger" title="User talk:Mx. Granger" id="mw5A">talk</a> <b id="mw5Q">·</b> <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mx._Granger" title="Special:Contributions/Mx. Granger" id="mw5g">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Mx._Granger-20220903043500-DaGizza-20220903033300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:35, 3 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mx._Granger-20220903043500-DaGizza-20220903033300"><span id="ooui-php-29" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mx._Granger-20220903043500-DaGizza-20220903033300"></span> <dl id="mw5w"><dd id="mw6A"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ChubbyWimbus-20220903071800-Mx._Granger-20220903043500"></span>Yes, it looks good. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:ChubbyWimbus" title="User:ChubbyWimbus" id="mw6Q">ChubbyWimbus</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:ChubbyWimbus" title="User talk:ChubbyWimbus" id="mw6g">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-ChubbyWimbus-20220903071800-Mx._Granger-20220903043500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:18, 3 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ChubbyWimbus-20220903071800-Mx._Granger-20220903043500"><span id="ooui-php-30" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ChubbyWimbus-20220903071800-Mx._Granger-20220903043500"></span> <dl id="mw6w"><dd id="mw7A"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20220903072500-ChubbyWimbus-20220903071800"></span>Which new banner is replacing the existing one now? Are we doing anything other than changing the blurb at this point? <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ikan_Kekek" title="User:Ikan Kekek" id="mw7Q">Ikan Kekek</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ikan_Kekek" title="User talk:Ikan Kekek" id="mw7g">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ikan_Kekek-20220903072500-ChubbyWimbus-20220903071800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:25, 3 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20220903072500-ChubbyWimbus-20220903071800"><span id="ooui-php-31" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ikan_Kekek-20220903072500-ChubbyWimbus-20220903071800"></span> <dl id="mw7w"><dd id="mw8A"><dl id="mw8Q"><dd id="mw8g"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ground_Zero-20220903150600-Ikan_Kekek-20220903072500"></span>Per the previous discussion, I replaced the banner with Banner C above, and updated the blurb with AlasdairW's wording. As far as dropping the banner and putting the link in the Bottom Box, I would propose to do that after the discussion has been running for a week if there is still a consensus to do so at tat point. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ground_Zero" title="User:Ground Zero" id="mw8w">Ground Zero</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ground_Zero" title="User talk:Ground Zero" id="mw9A">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ground_Zero-20220903150600-Ikan_Kekek-20220903072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:06, 3 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ground_Zero-20220903150600-Ikan_Kekek-20220903072500"><span id="ooui-php-32" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ground_Zero-20220903150600-Ikan_Kekek-20220903072500"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd id="mw9Q"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ChubbyWimbus-20220903081200-Ikan_Kekek-20220903072500"></span>There won't be a banner. It will just be a clickable link in the blue box with "Discover". See the link that<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ground_Zero" title="User:Ground Zero" id="mw9g">Ground Zero</a> posted. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:ChubbyWimbus" title="User:ChubbyWimbus" id="mw9w">ChubbyWimbus</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:ChubbyWimbus" title="User talk:ChubbyWimbus" id="mw-A">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-ChubbyWimbus-20220903081200-Ikan_Kekek-20220903072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:12, 3 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ChubbyWimbus-20220903081200-Ikan_Kekek-20220903072500"><span id="ooui-php-33" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ChubbyWimbus-20220903081200-Ikan_Kekek-20220903072500"></span> <dl id="mw-Q"><dd id="mw-g"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20220903094100-ChubbyWimbus-20220903081200"></span>As I said, I think that's premature, but I've obviously been outvoted. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ikan_Kekek" title="User:Ikan Kekek" id="mw-w">Ikan Kekek</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ikan_Kekek" title="User talk:Ikan Kekek" id="mw_A">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ikan_Kekek-20220903094100-ChubbyWimbus-20220903081200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:41, 3 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20220903094100-ChubbyWimbus-20220903081200"><span id="ooui-php-34" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ikan_Kekek-20220903094100-ChubbyWimbus-20220903081200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><section data-mw-section-id="4" id="mw_Q"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading3" id="mwAgo"><h3 id="Resolving_this" data-mw-thread-id="h-Resolving_this-COVID-19_pandemic_9-20220915193500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Resolving_this-COVID-19_pandemic_9-20220915193500"></span>Resolving this<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Resolving_this-COVID-19_pandemic_9-20220915193500"></span></h3></div> <p id="mw_g"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ground_Zero-20220915193500-Resolving_this"></span>This discussion has been running for two weeks. I think there is consensus for dropping the COVID-19 box as I have promised, and putting the link to COVID-19 information prominently in the Bottom Box. Any objections? <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ground_Zero" title="User:Ground Zero" id="mw_w">Ground Zero</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ground_Zero" title="User talk:Ground Zero" id="mwAQA">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ground_Zero-20220915193500-Resolving_this" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:35, 15 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ground_Zero-20220915193500-Resolving_this"><span id="ooui-php-35" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ground_Zero-20220915193500-Resolving_this"></span></p> <dl id="mwAQE"><dd id="mwAQI"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20220915194000-Ground_Zero-20220915193500"></span>Yes, as there are still a lot of people getting sick, dying, and getting permanently damaged by this pandemic, and being sick or experiencing flight cancellations because of sick crews certainly affects travel. However, as I acknowledged above, I've been outvoted. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ikan_Kekek" title="User:Ikan Kekek" id="mwAQM">Ikan Kekek</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ikan_Kekek" title="User talk:Ikan Kekek" id="mwAQQ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ikan_Kekek-20220915194000-Ground_Zero-20220915193500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:40, 15 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20220915194000-Ground_Zero-20220915193500"><span id="ooui-php-36" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ikan_Kekek-20220915194000-Ground_Zero-20220915193500"></span> <dl id="mwAQU"><dd id="mwAQY"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ground_Zero-20220915215900-Ikan_Kekek-20220915194000"></span>I should have asked, "are there any objections to declaring a consensus?" Other contributors who haven't commented may also want to weigh in. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ground_Zero" title="User:Ground Zero" id="mwAQc">Ground Zero</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ground_Zero" title="User talk:Ground Zero" id="mwAQg">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ground_Zero-20220915215900-Ikan_Kekek-20220915194000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:59, 15 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ground_Zero-20220915215900-Ikan_Kekek-20220915194000"><span id="ooui-php-37" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ground_Zero-20220915215900-Ikan_Kekek-20220915194000"></span> <dl id="mwAQk"><dd id="mwAQo"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AlasdairW-20220915221300-Ground_Zero-20220915215900"></span>As the banner was only changed 2 weeks ago, I would prefer that we wait a few more weeks before making the change. This will also let us see if there is an early October peak as happened in the last two years with students returning to their term-time accommodation. If things are broadly as they are now, changing at the same time as November DOTM or October TT would be fine. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:AlasdairW" title="User:AlasdairW" id="mwAQs">AlasdairW</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:AlasdairW" title="User talk:AlasdairW" id="mwAQw">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-AlasdairW-20220915221300-Ground_Zero-20220915215900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:13, 15 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AlasdairW-20220915221300-Ground_Zero-20220915215900"><span id="ooui-php-38" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AlasdairW-20220915221300-Ground_Zero-20220915215900"></span> <dl id="mwAQ0"><dd id="mwAQ4"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yvwv-20220915221300-AlasdairW-20220915221300"></span>Since widespread testing in high-income countries began in late 2020, there have been more than 380k cases worldwide. When we are below that figure, it can be time to remove the banner. /<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Yvwv" title="User:Yvwv" id="mwAQ8">Yvwv</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Yvwv" title="User talk:Yvwv" id="mwARA">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Yvwv-20220915221300-AlasdairW-20220915221300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:13, 15 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yvwv-20220915221300-AlasdairW-20220915221300"><span id="ooui-php-39" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yvwv-20220915221300-AlasdairW-20220915221300"></span> <dl id="mwARE"><dd id="mwARI"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20220916001100-Yvwv-20220915221300"></span>Any figure on testing excludes loads of unreported home tests in the U.S. Figures on hospitalizations and deaths are likely to be more reliable. In the U.S., we're still seeing <a rel="mw:ExtLink nofollow" href="https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home" class="external text" id="mwARM">around 350 deaths a day, with a slight upward trend</a>. Just taking the number the CDC gives as the average for new deaths per day, 357 x 365 = 130,305 deaths in the U.S. for the next year. And the fact that people consider that acceptable and requiring no action (no masks, no funding for new testing or vaccines, and a pretense that the pandemic is over) just makes me want to scream! <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ikan_Kekek" title="User:Ikan Kekek" id="mwARQ">Ikan Kekek</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ikan_Kekek" title="User talk:Ikan Kekek" id="mwARU">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ikan_Kekek-20220916001100-Yvwv-20220915221300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:11, 16 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20220916001100-Yvwv-20220915221300"><span id="ooui-php-40" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ikan_Kekek-20220916001100-Yvwv-20220915221300"></span> <dl id="mwARY"><dd id="mwARc"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LPfi-20220916073500-Ikan_Kekek-20220916001100"></span>We have a similar situation in Finland. There was a severe peak in the summer I didn't notice although I do follow the news (journalists seems to ignore such developments). The current policy may be reasonable: people are dying, but there is little we can do without choosing the Chinese path, and most people are better off forgetting about the pandemic than worrying about it, even if they might die – more people might die (or lose happy years) from staying at home. I am a bit bitter for some non-intrusive measures not being maintained, but it might be better this way.</dd> <dd id="mwARg">Anyway, I support waiting some time, both not to remove the banner just after changing it (which would seem odd and impulsive) and to see what the development will be during the autumn.</dd> <dd id="mwARk">–<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:LPfi" title="User:LPfi" id="mwARo">LPfi</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:LPfi" title="User talk:LPfi" id="mwARs">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-LPfi-20220916073500-Ikan_Kekek-20220916001100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:35, 16 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LPfi-20220916073500-Ikan_Kekek-20220916001100"><span id="ooui-php-41" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LPfi-20220916073500-Ikan_Kekek-20220916001100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p id="mwARw"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ground_Zero-20220916112600-Resolving_this"></span>While Covid will rise and fall in different regions at different times, <a rel="mw:ExtLink nofollow" href="https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/" class="external text" id="mwAR0">these statistics</a> for worldwide cases and deaths show that the number of cases is down dramatically from the peak, and the number of daily deaths since April 2022 have been far lower than at anytime from Jan 2020 until March 2022. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ground_Zero" title="User:Ground Zero" id="mwAR4">Ground Zero</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ground_Zero" title="User talk:Ground Zero" id="mwAR8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ground_Zero-20220916112600-Resolving_this" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:26, 16 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ground_Zero-20220916112600-Resolving_this"><span id="ooui-php-42" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ground_Zero-20220916112600-Resolving_this"></span></p> <dl id="mwASA"><dd id="mwASE"><dl id="mwASI"><dd id="mwASM"><dl id="mwASQ"><dd id="mwASU"><dl id="mwASY"><dd id="mwASc"><dl id="mwASg"><dd id="mwASk"><dl id="mwASo"><dd id="mwASs"><dl id="mwASw"><dd id="mwAS0"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ChubbyWimbus-20220916131100-Ground_Zero-20220916112600"></span>I support removing the banner and just having a link. The pandemic isn't having the dramatic health affects anymore and even the travel affects are greatly diminished. People in most countries are able to live normally. As I said above, the government restrictions are the only thing keeping covid from being behind us in terms of meaningful affects. Even Japan is preparing to open. There is less and less to even mention. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:ChubbyWimbus" title="User:ChubbyWimbus" id="mwAS4">ChubbyWimbus</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:ChubbyWimbus" title="User talk:ChubbyWimbus" id="mwAS8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-ChubbyWimbus-20220916131100-Ground_Zero-20220916112600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:11, 16 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ChubbyWimbus-20220916131100-Ground_Zero-20220916112600"><span id="ooui-php-43" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ChubbyWimbus-20220916131100-Ground_Zero-20220916112600"></span> <dl id="mwATA"><dd id="mwATE"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LPfi-20220916170400-ChubbyWimbus-20220916131100"></span>According to the graphs daily confirmed new cases in May–August have been slightly more than in the peaks of 2020 and 2021 (and e.g. Finland does few tests). For Finland the daily deaths in August were more than ever in 2020 and 2021 (according to the country statistics of the linked pages). The situation in Finland may be odd, so I may be biased. However, from my perspective, waiting until late in the autumn to see the development seems sensible. –<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:LPfi" title="User:LPfi" id="mwATI">LPfi</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:LPfi" title="User talk:LPfi" id="mwATM">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-LPfi-20220916170400-ChubbyWimbus-20220916131100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:04, 16 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LPfi-20220916170400-ChubbyWimbus-20220916131100"><span id="ooui-php-44" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LPfi-20220916170400-ChubbyWimbus-20220916131100"></span> <dl id="mwATQ"><dd id="mwATU"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ChubbyWimbus-20220917024900-LPfi-20220916170400"></span>We simply disagree. If there is consensus to "wait until fall", I oppose using case numbers as the metric. Covid has never stopped having "waves", and a fall "wave" is anticipated already, so case numbers rising should be neither surprising nor alarming. Deaths (which can be compared against case numbers), travel barriers/requirements, and public interest/concern are much better metrics. I'd say 2 of those being significantly down should be a rather easy "banner to link" choice, but even 1 of them reducing significantly (if all else remains the same) may be reason enough given that it is still going to be accessible from the Main Page. I think we're already there, but of course not everyone agrees. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:ChubbyWimbus" title="User:ChubbyWimbus" id="mwATY">ChubbyWimbus</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:ChubbyWimbus" title="User talk:ChubbyWimbus" id="mwATc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-ChubbyWimbus-20220917024900-LPfi-20220916170400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ChubbyWimbus-20220917024900-LPfi-20220916170400"><span id="ooui-php-45" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ChubbyWimbus-20220917024900-LPfi-20220916170400"></span> <dl id="mwATg"><dd id="mwATk"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mx._Granger-20220918064300-ChubbyWimbus-20220917024900"></span>I just don't think there's a reason to wait. Having the special banner made sense while covid was a new crisis, much was unclear and changed very quickly, and our article could help readers orient themselves in the new, unfamiliar travel reality. Now, while covid is still a concern, it is no longer a new concern; it has become baked into the background of our lives like other travel topics. —<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Mx._Granger" title="User:Mx. Granger" id="mwATo">Granger</a><span typeof="mw:Entity" id="mwATs"> </span>(<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Mx._Granger" title="User talk:Mx. Granger" id="mwATw">talk</a> <b id="mwAT0">·</b> <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mx._Granger" title="Special:Contributions/Mx. Granger" id="mwAT4">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Mx._Granger-20220918064300-ChubbyWimbus-20220917024900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:43, 18 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mx._Granger-20220918064300-ChubbyWimbus-20220917024900"><span id="ooui-php-46" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mx._Granger-20220918064300-ChubbyWimbus-20220917024900"></span> <dl id="mwAT8"><dd id="mwAUA"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SelfieCity-20221003134400-Mx._Granger-20220918064300"></span>It's been a few weeks. What is the perspective on this issue currently? <small id="mwAUE">--Comment by </small> <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:SelfieCity" title="User:SelfieCity" id="mwAUI">Selfie City</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:SelfieCity" title="User talk:SelfieCity" id="mwAUM">talk</a>) (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SelfieCity" title="Special:Contributions/SelfieCity" id="mwAUQ">contributions</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-SelfieCity-20221003134400-Mx._Granger-20220918064300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:44, 3 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SelfieCity-20221003134400-Mx._Granger-20220918064300"><span id="ooui-php-47" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SelfieCity-20221003134400-Mx._Granger-20220918064300"></span> <dl id="mwAUU"><dd id="mwAUY"><a rel="mw:ExtLink nofollow" href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-cases.html" class="external autonumber" id="mwAUc"></a><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yvwv-20221010164300-SelfieCity-20221003134400"></span> Globally, positive tests and deaths per day have flattened out for some weeks, neither raising nor declining. I cannot find any reliable list of countries by restriction status. One visible change is that the pandemic barely makes headlines anymore; at least not in Anglophone media. We should consider that the Covid article takes effort to keep updated; dropping it from the main page allows us to focus on other content. IMO it is time to remove the banner. /<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Yvwv" title="User:Yvwv" id="mwAUg">Yvwv</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Yvwv" title="User talk:Yvwv" id="mwAUk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Yvwv-20221010164300-SelfieCity-20221003134400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:43, 10 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yvwv-20221010164300-SelfieCity-20221003134400"><span id="ooui-php-48" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yvwv-20221010164300-SelfieCity-20221003134400"></span> <dl id="mwAUo"><dd id="mwAUs"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SelfieCity-20221010173600-Yvwv-20221010164300"></span>I'll agree, then. <small id="mwAUw">--Comment by </small> <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:SelfieCity" title="User:SelfieCity" id="mwAU0">Selfie City</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:SelfieCity" title="User talk:SelfieCity" id="mwAU4">talk</a>) (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SelfieCity" title="Special:Contributions/SelfieCity" id="mwAU8">contributions</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-SelfieCity-20221010173600-Yvwv-20221010164300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:36, 10 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SelfieCity-20221010173600-Yvwv-20221010164300"><span id="ooui-php-49" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SelfieCity-20221010173600-Yvwv-20221010164300"></span> <dl id="mwAVA"><dd id="mwAVE"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LPfi-20221011062900-SelfieCity-20221010173600"></span>OK. It is not a new threat and it's now some time since the banner change. I'd keep the link, though, as suggested above, and I think the COVID-19 article should stay updated (a monthly check won't take much energy from other work). We can purge it of some trivia that make it get out-of-date, but the article as such is still relevant. The prevalence is high in parts of the world (like here), and if you are in an area with low prevalence, you might not be prepared for that, especially if people at the destination seem relaxed about it. –<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:LPfi" title="User:LPfi" id="mwAVI">LPfi</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:LPfi" title="User talk:LPfi" id="mwAVM">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-LPfi-20221011062900-SelfieCity-20221010173600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:29, 11 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LPfi-20221011062900-SelfieCity-20221010173600"><span id="ooui-php-50" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LPfi-20221011062900-SelfieCity-20221010173600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd id="mwAVQ"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yvwv-20221025151600-Ground_Zero-20220916112600"></span>The global death rate has risen slightly during October, but too little to be described as a wave. The news articles about the virus are nearly absent from English-speaking media. Are we waiting for something? /<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Yvwv" title="User:Yvwv" id="mwAVU">Yvwv</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Yvwv" title="User talk:Yvwv" id="mwAVY">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Yvwv-20221025151600-Ground_Zero-20220916112600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:16, 25 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yvwv-20221025151600-Ground_Zero-20220916112600"><span id="ooui-php-51" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yvwv-20221025151600-Ground_Zero-20220916112600"></span> <dl id="mwAVc"><dd id="mwAVg"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ground_Zero-20221028080200-Yvwv-20221025151600"></span>I believe there is consensus to remove the COVID-19 box and put the link to COVID-19 information prominently in the Bottom Box. I will do so early next week. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ground_Zero" title="User:Ground Zero" id="mwAVk">Ground Zero</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ground_Zero" title="User talk:Ground Zero" id="mwAVo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ground_Zero-20221028080200-Yvwv-20221025151600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:02, 28 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ground_Zero-20221028080200-Yvwv-20221025151600"><span id="ooui-php-52" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ground_Zero-20221028080200-Yvwv-20221025151600"></span> <dl id="mwAVs"><dd id="mwAVw"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SHB2000-20221028081000-Ground_Zero-20221028080200"></span>I agree with removing it now. The effects of COVID will forever live; it's not going away anytime soon. Travellers today are much more likely to face some other issue than COVID while travelling. China might be an outlier, but the article will still be linked in the bottom box. <span style="font-family:BlinkMacSystemFont; font-size: 14px" id="mwAV0"><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:SHB2000" title="User:SHB2000" id="mwAV4"><span style="color:#0b6487" id="mwAV8">SHB2000</span></a> <small id="mwAWA">(<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:SHB2000" title="User talk:SHB2000" id="mwAWE">talk</a> <span typeof="mw:Entity" id="mwAWI">|</span> <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SHB2000" title="Special:Contributions/SHB2000" id="mwAWM">contribs</a> <span typeof="mw:Entity" id="mwAWQ">|</span> <a rel="mw:WikiLink/Interwiki" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:SHB2000" title="m:User:SHB2000" class="extiw" id="mwAWU">meta</a>)</small></span> <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-SHB2000-20221028081000-Ground_Zero-20221028080200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:10, 28 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SHB2000-20221028081000-Ground_Zero-20221028080200"><span id="ooui-php-53" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SHB2000-20221028081000-Ground_Zero-20221028080200"></span> <dl id="mwAWY"><dd id="mwAWc"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SelfieCity-20221028154600-SHB2000-20221028081000"></span>Let's go ahead this coming week, then. <small id="mwAWg">--Comment by </small> <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:SelfieCity" title="User:SelfieCity" id="mwAWk">Selfie City</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:SelfieCity" title="User talk:SelfieCity" id="mwAWo">talk</a>) (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SelfieCity" title="Special:Contributions/SelfieCity" id="mwAWs">contributions</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-SelfieCity-20221028154600-SHB2000-20221028081000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 28 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SelfieCity-20221028154600-SHB2000-20221028081000"><span id="ooui-php-54" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SelfieCity-20221028154600-SHB2000-20221028081000"></span> <dl id="mwAWw"><dd id="mwAW0"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20221028162500-SelfieCity-20221028154600"></span>I tested positive again early this morning after my girlfriend was sick all last week, but to be fair, neither of us had to travel to get sick... <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ikan_Kekek" title="User:Ikan Kekek" id="mwAW4">Ikan Kekek</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ikan_Kekek" title="User talk:Ikan Kekek" id="mwAW8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ikan_Kekek-20221028162500-SelfieCity-20221028154600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 28 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20221028162500-SelfieCity-20221028154600"><span id="ooui-php-55" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ikan_Kekek-20221028162500-SelfieCity-20221028154600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p id="mwAXA"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ground_Zero-20221102014100-Resolving_this"></span>Per discussion, done. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ground_Zero" title="User:Ground Zero" id="mwAXE">Ground Zero</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ground_Zero" title="User talk:Ground Zero" id="mwAXI">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ground_Zero-20221102014100-Resolving_this" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:41, 2 November 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ground_Zero-20221102014100-Resolving_this"><span id="ooui-php-56" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ground_Zero-20221102014100-Resolving_this"></span></p> <dl id="mwAXM"><dd id="mwAXQ"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SHB2000-20221102014900-Ground_Zero-20221102014100"></span>Have also removed the credits section (see <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Special:Diff/4553345" title="Special:Diff/4553345" id="mwAXU">Special:Diff/4553345</a>). <span style="font-family:BlinkMacSystemFont; font-size: 14px" id="mwAXY"><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:SHB2000" title="User:SHB2000" id="mwAXc"><span style="color:#0b6487" id="mwAXg">SHB2000</span></a> <small id="mwAXk">(<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:SHB2000" title="User talk:SHB2000" id="mwAXo">talk</a> <span typeof="mw:Entity" id="mwAXs">|</span> <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SHB2000" title="Special:Contributions/SHB2000" id="mwAXw">contribs</a> <span typeof="mw:Entity" id="mwAX0">|</span> <a rel="mw:WikiLink/Interwiki" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:SHB2000" title="m:User:SHB2000" class="extiw" id="mwAX4">meta</a>)</small></span> <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-SHB2000-20221102014900-Ground_Zero-20221102014100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:49, 2 November 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SHB2000-20221102014900-Ground_Zero-20221102014100"><span id="ooui-php-57" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon 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data-mw-comment-end='h-Quibble_with_wording_("articles...written_by_travellers_like_you")-2022-06-19T08:55:00.000Z'></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-LPfi-2022-06-19T21:25:00.000Z-Wauteurz-2022-06-19T20:56:00.000Z">2 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p id="mwAYA"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='c-AnonMoos-2022-06-19T08:55:00.000Z-Quibble_with_wording_("articles...written_by_travellers_like_you")'></span>Many of the edits to such articles were written by inhabitants of the cities, not travellers to them... <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:AnonMoos?action=edit&redlink=1" title="User:AnonMoos (page does not exist)" class="new" typeof="mw:LocalizedAttrs" id="mwAYE" data-mw-i18n='{"title":{"lang":"x-page","key":"red-link-title","params":["User:AnonMoos"]}}'>AnonMoos</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:AnonMoos" title="User talk:AnonMoos" id="mwAYI">talk</a>) <a href='https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-AnonMoos-2022-06-19T08:55:00.000Z-Quibble_with_wording_("articles...written_by_travellers_like_you")' class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:55, 19 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id='c-AnonMoos-2022-06-19T08:55:00.000Z-Quibble_with_wording_("articles...written_by_travellers_like_you")'><span id="ooui-php-58" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end='c-AnonMoos-2022-06-19T08:55:00.000Z-Quibble_with_wording_("articles...written_by_travellers_like_you")'></span></p> <dl id="mwAYM"><dd id="mwAYQ"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wauteurz-2022-06-19T20:56:00.000Z-AnonMoos-2022-06-19T08:55:00.000Z"></span>If anyone else ended up looking for where this blurb is printed: It's on the mobile version of the Main Page. That said, to me, the groups of "Travellers like you" and "Inhabitant of a certain city" are not mutually exclusive. I fail to see an issue here, but feel free to explain your point of view. <br id="mwAYU"/> -- <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Wauteurz" title="User:Wauteurz" id="mwAYY">Wauteurz</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Wauteurz" title="User talk:Wauteurz" id="mwAYc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Wauteurz-2022-06-19T20:56:00.000Z-AnonMoos-2022-06-19T08:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:56, 19 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wauteurz-2022-06-19T20:56:00.000Z-AnonMoos-2022-06-19T08:55:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-59" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wauteurz-2022-06-19T20:56:00.000Z-AnonMoos-2022-06-19T08:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl id="mwAYg"><dd id="mwAYk"><dl id="mwAYo"><dd id="mwAYs"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LPfi-2022-06-19T21:25:00.000Z-Wauteurz-2022-06-19T20:56:00.000Z"></span>One could assume that most people reading this site could identify themselves with travellers, also if at home for the moment. –<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:LPfi" title="User:LPfi" id="mwAYw">LPfi</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:LPfi" title="User talk:LPfi" id="mwAY0">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-LPfi-2022-06-19T21:25:00.000Z-Wauteurz-2022-06-19T20:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:25, 19 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LPfi-2022-06-19T21:25:00.000Z-Wauteurz-2022-06-19T20:56:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-60" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon 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data-mw-comment-end="h-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner_from_the_Main_Page?-20220901124100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Mx._Granger-20230507134000-Ground_Zero-20230505150200">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>12 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>9 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <dl about="#mwt34" typeof="mw:Transclusion" id="mwAY8" data-mw='{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"swept","href":"./Template:Swept"},"params":{},"i":0}}]}'><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ground_Zero-20220901124100-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner_from_the_Main_Page?"></span>Swept in from the <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:Travellers'_pub" title="Wikivoyage:Travellers' pub">pub</a></i></dd></dl> <p id="mwAZA">Please join the discussion <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="#Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner?" class="mw-selflink-fragment" id="mwAZE">here</a>. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ground_Zero" title="User:Ground Zero" id="mwAZI">Ground Zero</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ground_Zero" title="User talk:Ground Zero" id="mwAZM">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ground_Zero-20220901124100-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner_from_the_Main_Page?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:41, 1 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ground_Zero-20220901124100-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner_from_the_Main_Page?"><span id="ooui-php-61" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ground_Zero-20220901124100-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner_from_the_Main_Page?"></span></p> <dl id="mwAZQ"><dd id="mwAZU"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jpatokal-20220905235100-Ground_Zero-20220901124100"></span>I would also propose that we drop all article top COVID banners <i id="mwAZY">unless</i> the country still has significant COVID restrictions (quarantine and/or mandatory testing) impacting vaccinated travellers in place. "No restrictions" boxes can go under Get in. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Jpatokal" title="User:Jpatokal" id="mwAZc">Jpatokal</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Jpatokal" title="User talk:Jpatokal" id="mwAZg">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Jpatokal-20220905235100-Ground_Zero-20220901124100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:51, 5 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jpatokal-20220905235100-Ground_Zero-20220901124100"><span id="ooui-php-62" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jpatokal-20220905235100-Ground_Zero-20220901124100"></span></dd></dl> <dl id="mwAZk"><dd id="mwAZo"><dl id="mwAZs"><dd id="mwAZw"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20220906011000-Jpatokal-20220905235100"></span>That makes sense. Or perhaps in some other extreme situations beyond what's now happening in places like the U.S. (which though hardly safe is largely "normal" now except for those getting severely ill and dying). <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ikan_Kekek" title="User:Ikan Kekek" id="mwAZ0">Ikan Kekek</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ikan_Kekek" title="User talk:Ikan Kekek" id="mwAZ4">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ikan_Kekek-20220906011000-Jpatokal-20220905235100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:10, 6 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20220906011000-Jpatokal-20220905235100"><span id="ooui-php-63" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ikan_Kekek-20220906011000-Jpatokal-20220905235100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p id="mwAZ8"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ground_Zero-20221102014100-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner_from_the_Main_Page?"></span>Per discussion above, done. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ground_Zero" title="User:Ground Zero" id="mwAaA">Ground Zero</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ground_Zero" title="User talk:Ground Zero" id="mwAaE">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ground_Zero-20221102014100-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner_from_the_Main_Page?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:41, 2 November 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ground_Zero-20221102014100-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner_from_the_Main_Page?"><span id="ooui-php-64" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ground_Zero-20221102014100-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner_from_the_Main_Page?"></span></p> <p id="mwAaI"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ground_Zero-20230505150200-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner_from_the_Main_Page?"></span>The <a rel="mw:ExtLink nofollow" href="https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-covid-19-is-no-longer-global-health-emergency-who-says/" class="external text" id="mwAaM">WHO has declared</a> that Covid no longer represents a global health emergency. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ground_Zero" title="User:Ground Zero" id="mwAaQ">Ground Zero</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ground_Zero" title="User talk:Ground Zero" id="mwAaU">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ground_Zero-20230505150200-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner_from_the_Main_Page?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:02, 5 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ground_Zero-20230505150200-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner_from_the_Main_Page?"><span id="ooui-php-65" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ground_Zero-20230505150200-Is_it_time_to_drop_the_COVID-19_banner_from_the_Main_Page?"></span></p> <dl id="mwAaY"><dd id="mwAac"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mx._Granger-20230505161500-Ground_Zero-20230505150200"></span>I think it's time to remove all mention of COVID-19 from the main page. Interested readers can always find our <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic" id="mwAag">COVID-19 pandemic</a> article by searching for it. —<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Mx._Granger" title="User:Mx. Granger" id="mwAak">Granger</a><span typeof="mw:Entity" id="mwAao"> </span>(<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Mx._Granger" title="User talk:Mx. Granger" id="mwAas">talk</a> <b id="mwAaw">·</b> <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mx._Granger" title="Special:Contributions/Mx. Granger" id="mwAa0">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Mx._Granger-20230505161500-Ground_Zero-20230505150200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 5 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mx._Granger-20230505161500-Ground_Zero-20230505150200"><span id="ooui-php-66" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mx._Granger-20230505161500-Ground_Zero-20230505150200"></span> <dl id="mwAa4"><dd id="mwAa8"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SHB2000-20230505205000-Mx._Granger-20230505161500"></span>+1 for removing all COVID mentions from the main page. As I said in earlier discussions, it's no longer the prime concern for most travellers anymore. <span style="font-family:BlinkMacSystemFont; font-size: 14px" id="mwAbA"><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:SHB2000" title="User:SHB2000" id="mwAbE"><span style="color:#0b6487" id="mwAbI">SHB2000</span></a> <small id="mwAbM">(<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:SHB2000" title="User talk:SHB2000" id="mwAbQ">talk</a> <span typeof="mw:Entity" id="mwAbU">|</span> <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SHB2000" title="Special:Contributions/SHB2000" id="mwAbY">contribs</a> <span typeof="mw:Entity" id="mwAbc">|</span> <a rel="mw:WikiLink/Interwiki" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:SHB2000" title="m:User:SHB2000" class="extiw" id="mwAbg">meta</a>)</small></span> <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-SHB2000-20230505205000-Mx._Granger-20230505161500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:50, 5 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SHB2000-20230505205000-Mx._Granger-20230505161500"><span id="ooui-php-67" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SHB2000-20230505205000-Mx._Granger-20230505161500"></span> <dl id="mwAbk"><dd id="mwAbo"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ChubbyWimbus-20230506111600-SHB2000-20230505205000"></span>Agreed. It's long overdue. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:ChubbyWimbus" title="User:ChubbyWimbus" id="mwAbs">ChubbyWimbus</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:ChubbyWimbus" title="User talk:ChubbyWimbus" id="mwAbw">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-ChubbyWimbus-20230506111600-SHB2000-20230505205000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:16, 6 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ChubbyWimbus-20230506111600-SHB2000-20230505205000"><span id="ooui-php-68" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ChubbyWimbus-20230506111600-SHB2000-20230505205000"></span> <dl id="mwAb0"><dd id="mwAb4"><b id="mwAb8"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThunderingTyphoons!-20230506150600-ChubbyWimbus-20230506111600"></span>Support</b> removing from Main Page.--<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:ThunderingTyphoons!" title="User:ThunderingTyphoons!" id="mwAcA">ThunderingTyphoons!</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:ThunderingTyphoons!" title="User talk:ThunderingTyphoons!" id="mwAcE">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-ThunderingTyphoons!-20230506150600-ChubbyWimbus-20230506111600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:06, 6 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThunderingTyphoons!-20230506150600-ChubbyWimbus-20230506111600"><span id="ooui-php-69" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThunderingTyphoons!-20230506150600-ChubbyWimbus-20230506111600"></span> <dl id="mwAcI"><dd id="mwAcM"><b id="mwAcQ"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SelfieCity-20230506213000-ThunderingTyphoons!-20230506150600"></span>Support</b> per WHO declaration. <small id="mwAcU">--Comment by </small> <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:SelfieCity" title="User:SelfieCity" id="mwAcY">Selfie City</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:SelfieCity" title="User talk:SelfieCity" id="mwAcc">talk</a>) (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SelfieCity" title="Special:Contributions/SelfieCity" id="mwAcg">contributions</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-SelfieCity-20230506213000-ThunderingTyphoons!-20230506150600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:30, 6 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SelfieCity-20230506213000-ThunderingTyphoons!-20230506150600"><span id="ooui-php-70" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SelfieCity-20230506213000-ThunderingTyphoons!-20230506150600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd id="mwAck"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pashley-20230507010200-Mx._Granger-20230505161500"></span>Yes, take it off the main page. Then consider <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:COVID-19_pandemic#Does_anyone_else_feel_this_article_is_outdated?" title="Talk:COVID-19 pandemic" id="mwAco">Talk:COVID-19_pandemic#Does_anyone_else_feel_this_article_is_outdated?</a>. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Pashley" title="User:Pashley" id="mwAcs">Pashley</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Pashley" title="User talk:Pashley" id="mwAcw">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Pashley-20230507010200-Mx._Granger-20230505161500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:02, 7 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pashley-20230507010200-Mx._Granger-20230505161500"><span id="ooui-php-71" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pashley-20230507010200-Mx._Granger-20230505161500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul id="mwAc0"><li id="mwAc4"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mx._Granger-20230507134000-Ground_Zero-20230505150200"></span>I've removed it based on the consensus here. In the past we used that part of the main page for <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:Featured_events" title="Wikivoyage:Featured events" id="mwAc8">Wikivoyage:Featured events</a> – should we go back to doing that? —<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Mx._Granger" title="User:Mx. Granger" id="mwAdA">Granger</a><span typeof="mw:Entity" id="mwAdE"> </span>(<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Mx._Granger" title="User talk:Mx. Granger" id="mwAdI">talk</a> <b id="mwAdM">·</b> <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mx._Granger" title="Special:Contributions/Mx. Granger" id="mwAdQ">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Mx._Granger-20230507134000-Ground_Zero-20230505150200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:40, 7 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mx._Granger-20230507134000-Ground_Zero-20230505150200"><span id="ooui-php-72" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mx._Granger-20230507134000-Ground_Zero-20230505150200"></span></li></ul> </section><section data-mw-section-id="7" id="mwAdU"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Page_needs_updating" data-mw-thread-id="h-Page_needs_updating-20230902125500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Page_needs_updating-20230902125500"></span>Page needs updating<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Page_needs_updating-20230902125500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-SHB2000-20230902231800-AlasdairW-20230902170200">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>5 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p id="mwAdY"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AlasdairW-20230902125500-Page_needs_updating"></span>Please could somebody, who is able, update the DOTM banner as it is 2 September and we still have last month's one in place. Thanks <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:AlasdairW" title="User:AlasdairW" id="mwAdc">AlasdairW</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:AlasdairW" title="User talk:AlasdairW" id="mwAdg">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-AlasdairW-20230902125500-Page_needs_updating" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:55, 2 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AlasdairW-20230902125500-Page_needs_updating"><span id="ooui-php-73" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AlasdairW-20230902125500-Page_needs_updating"></span></p> <dl id="mwAdk"><dd id="mwAdo"><span about="#mwt35" typeof="mw:Transclusion" id="mwAds" data-mw='{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"re","href":"./Template:Re"},"params":{"1":{"wt":"AlasdairW"}},"i":0}}]}'><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SHB2000-20230902130900-AlasdairW-20230902125500"></span>@</span><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:AlasdairW" title="User:AlasdairW" about="#mwt35">AlasdairW</a><span about="#mwt35">:</span> <span typeof="mw:Transclusion mw:File" about="#mwt36" id="mwAdw" data-mw='{"parts":[{"template":{"target":{"wt":"done","href":"./Template:Done"},"params":{},"i":0}}]}'><span><img alt="Yes" resource="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/File:Yes_check.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/12px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600" data-file-type="drawing" height="12" width="12" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/24px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" class="mw-file-element"/></span></span><span about="#mwt36"> </span><b about="#mwt36">Done</b> – sorry for slacking with featured articles for the last month or so. I've been much busier IRL and fell completely oblivious to featured articles<span typeof="mw:DisplaySpace" id="mwAd0"> </span>:-(. Thanks for the reminder, though. --<span style="font-family:BlinkMacSystemFont; font-size: 14px" id="mwAd4"><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:SHB2000" title="User:SHB2000" id="mwAd8"><span style="color:#0b6487" id="mwAeA">SHB2000</span></a> <small id="mwAeE">(<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:SHB2000" title="User talk:SHB2000" id="mwAeI">talk</a> <span typeof="mw:Entity" id="mwAeM">|</span> <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SHB2000" title="Special:Contributions/SHB2000" id="mwAeQ">contribs</a> <span typeof="mw:Entity" id="mwAeU">|</span> <a rel="mw:WikiLink/Interwiki" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:SHB2000" title="m:User:SHB2000" class="extiw" id="mwAeY">meta</a>)</small></span> <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-SHB2000-20230902130900-AlasdairW-20230902125500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:09, 2 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SHB2000-20230902130900-AlasdairW-20230902125500"><span id="ooui-php-74" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SHB2000-20230902130900-AlasdairW-20230902125500"></span></dd></dl> <dl id="mwAec"><dd id="mwAeg"><dl id="mwAek"><dd id="mwAeo"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ypsilon-20230902150700-SHB2000-20230902130900"></span>Yes, I've updated them a couple of times as of lately, but <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage_talk:Destination_of_the_month_candidates#Streamlining_the_update_process_somehow?" title="Wikivoyage talk:Destination of the month candidates" id="mwAes">I find it a bit tedious</a> and am happy to see someone else having done it. --<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:Ypsilon" title="User:Ypsilon" id="mwAew">Ypsilon</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:Ypsilon" title="User talk:Ypsilon" id="mwAe0">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-Ypsilon-20230902150700-SHB2000-20230902130900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:07, 2 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ypsilon-20230902150700-SHB2000-20230902130900"><span id="ooui-php-75" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ypsilon-20230902150700-SHB2000-20230902130900"></span> <dl id="mwAe4"><dd id="mwAe8"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AlasdairW-20230902170200-Ypsilon-20230902150700"></span>Thanks, sorry if I was being impatient. <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:AlasdairW" title="User:AlasdairW" id="mwAfA">AlasdairW</a> (<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:AlasdairW" title="User talk:AlasdairW" id="mwAfE">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-AlasdairW-20230902170200-Ypsilon-20230902150700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:02, 2 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AlasdairW-20230902170200-Ypsilon-20230902150700"><span id="ooui-php-76" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AlasdairW-20230902170200-Ypsilon-20230902150700"></span> <dl id="mwAfI"><dd id="mwAfM"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SHB2000-20230902231800-AlasdairW-20230902170200"></span>Nah, you're all good – it had to be updated by <i id="mwAfQ">someone</i>, and 48 hours is about right. --<span style="font-family:BlinkMacSystemFont; font-size: 14px" id="mwAfU"><a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User:SHB2000" title="User:SHB2000" id="mwAfY"><span style="color:#0b6487" id="mwAfc">SHB2000</span></a> <small id="mwAfg">(<a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/User_talk:SHB2000" title="User talk:SHB2000" id="mwAfk">talk</a> <span typeof="mw:Entity" id="mwAfo">|</span> <a rel="mw:WikiLink" href="//en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SHB2000" title="Special:Contributions/SHB2000" id="mwAfs">contribs</a> <span typeof="mw:Entity" id="mwAfw">|</span> <a rel="mw:WikiLink/Interwiki" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:SHB2000" title="m:User:SHB2000" class="extiw" id="mwAf0">meta</a>)</small></span> <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#c-SHB2000-20230902231800-AlasdairW-20230902170200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:18, 2 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SHB2000-20230902231800-AlasdairW-20230902170200"><span id="ooui-php-77" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SHB2000-20230902231800-AlasdairW-20230902170200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><section data-mw-section-id="8" id="mwAf4"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_..._in_the_search_buttons_in_my_opinion_is_not_ideal" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_..._in_the_search_buttons_in_my_opinion_is_not_ideal-20240807134800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_..._in_the_search_buttons_in_my_opinion_is_not_ideal-20240807134800"></span>The ... in the search buttons in my opinion is not ideal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_..._in_the_search_buttons_in_my_opinion_is_not_ideal-20240807134800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Doc_James-20240807134800-The_..._in_the_search_buttons_in_my_opinion_is_not_ideal">3 months ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div 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