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See <a href="/wiki/Help:Sorting" class="mw-disambig" title="Help:Sorting">Help:Sorting</a>.</i></dd></dl> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template_talk:Sort" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template_talk:Sort-2007-04-05T09:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template_talk:Sort-2007-04-05T09:02:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Sort" title="Template talk:Sort">Template talk:Sort</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template_talk:Sort-2007-04-05T09:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Template talk:Sort"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trialsanderrors-2007-04-05T09:02:00.000Z-Template_talk:Sort"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bizarre_interaction_with_age_template" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bizarre_interaction_with_age_template-2008-11-29T01:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bizarre_interaction_with_age_template-2008-11-29T01:25:00.000Z"></span>Bizarre interaction with <b>age</b> template<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bizarre_interaction_with_age_template-2008-11-29T01:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Bizarre interaction with age template"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ummit-2008-11-29T01:25:00.000Z-Bizarre_interaction_with_age_template"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Bizarre_interaction_between_age_and_nts_templates" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)">Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Bizarre interaction between age and nts templates</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:Ummit" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Ummit">Steve Summit</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ummit" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Ummit">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Ummit-2008-11-29T01:25:00.000Z-Bizarre_interaction_with_age_template" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:25, 29 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ummit-2008-11-29T01:25:00.000Z-Bizarre_interaction_with_age_template"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ummit-2008-11-29T01:25:00.000Z-Bizarre_interaction_with_age_template"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Indian_numbering_system" data-mw-thread-id="h-Indian_numbering_system-2009-07-13T21:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Indian_numbering_system-2009-07-13T21:43:00.000Z"></span>Indian numbering system<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Indian_numbering_system-2009-07-13T21:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Indian numbering system"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Abhijitsathe-2009-07-13T21:43:00.000Z-Indian_numbering_system"></span>I am trying to translate this template for an Indian language which uses the <a href="/wiki/Indian_numbering_system" title="Indian numbering system">Indian numbering system</a>. Anyone has an idea how to modify this template for that? <br/>Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Abhijitsathe" title="User:Abhijitsathe">Abhijit Sathe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abhijitsathe" title="User talk:Abhijitsathe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Abhijitsathe-2009-07-13T21:43:00.000Z-Indian_numbering_system" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:43, 13 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Abhijitsathe-2009-07-13T21:43:00.000Z-Indian_numbering_system"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Abhijitsathe-2009-07-13T21:43:00.000Z-Indian_numbering_system"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edit_request_from_134.253.26.6,_15_November_2010" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edit_request_from_134.253.26.6,_15_November_2010-2010-11-15T16:57:00.000Z"><span id="Edit_request_from_134.253.26.6.2C_15_November_2010"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edit_request_from_134.253.26.6,_15_November_2010-2010-11-15T16:57:00.000Z"></span>Edit request from 134.253.26.6, 15 November 2010<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_request_from_134.253.26.6,_15_November_2010-2010-11-15T16:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Edit request from 134.253.26.6, 15 November 2010"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><code><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-134.253.26.6-2010-11-15T16:57:00.000Z-Edit_request_from_134.253.26.6,_15_November_2010"></span>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Edit_protected" title="Template:Edit protected">edit protected</a>}}</code> Many pages would like to use this template with a non-numeric prefix, e.g. a less-than sign or a greater-than sign (see <a href="/w/index.php?title=List_of_European_capital_cities_by_area&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="List of European capital cities by area (page does not exist)">List of European capital cities by area</a>). One option is to just use <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Sort" title="Template:Sort">sort</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> for the entire table, but it would be helpful if we could add a <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|prefix=</code> option to this template. To do this, change </span>{{formatnum:{{{1}}}}}}} to </span>{{{prefix|}}}{{formatnum:{{{1}}}}}}}, which will insert the optional prefix between the "no display" and actual display parts. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/134.253.26.6" title="Special:Contributions/134.253.26.6">134.253.26.6</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:134.253.26.6" title="User talk:134.253.26.6">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-134.253.26.6-2010-11-15T16:57:00.000Z-Edit_request_from_134.253.26.6,_15_November_2010" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:57, 15 November 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-134.253.26.6-2010-11-15T16:57:00.000Z-Edit_request_from_134.253.26.6,_15_November_2010"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-134.253.26.6-2010-11-15T16:57:00.000Z-Edit_request_from_134.253.26.6,_15_November_2010"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MSGJ-2010-11-15T17:10:00.000Z-134.253.26.6-2010-11-15T16:57:00.000Z"></span>That seems sensible and fairly uncontroversial, so done. Please could you update the documentation? — Martin <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:MSGJ" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:MSGJ" title="User talk:MSGJ">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-MSGJ-2010-11-15T17:10:00.000Z-134.253.26.6-2010-11-15T16:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:10, 15 November 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MSGJ-2010-11-15T17:10:00.000Z-134.253.26.6-2010-11-15T16:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MSGJ-2010-11-15T17:10:00.000Z-134.253.26.6-2010-11-15T16:57:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-134.253.26.6-2010-11-15T18:03:00.000Z-MSGJ-2010-11-15T17:10:00.000Z"></span>Documentation updated. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/134.253.26.6" title="Special:Contributions/134.253.26.6">134.253.26.6</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:134.253.26.6" title="User talk:134.253.26.6">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-134.253.26.6-2010-11-15T18:03:00.000Z-MSGJ-2010-11-15T17:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:03, 15 November 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-134.253.26.6-2010-11-15T18:03:00.000Z-MSGJ-2010-11-15T17:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-134.253.26.6-2010-11-15T18:03:00.000Z-MSGJ-2010-11-15T17:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Requested_edit:_Making_number_formatting_optional" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requested_edit:_Making_number_formatting_optional-2011-04-16T15:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_edit:_Making_number_formatting_optional-2011-04-16T15:52:00.000Z"></span>Requested edit: Making number formatting optional<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_edit:_Making_number_formatting_optional-2011-04-16T15:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Requested edit: Making number formatting optional"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-OwenBlacker-2011-04-16T15:52:00.000Z-Requested_edit:_Making_number_formatting_optional"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1237879475">.mw-parser-output .tmbox{margin:4px 0;border-collapse:collapse;border:1px solid #c0c090;background-color:#f8eaba;box-sizing:border-box}.mw-parser-output .tmbox.mbox-small{font-size:88%;line-height:1.25em}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-speedy{border:2px solid #b32424;background-color:#fee7e6}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-delete{border:2px solid #b32424}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-content{border:2px solid #f28500}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-style{border:2px solid #fc3}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-move{border:2px solid #9932cc}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-text{border:none;padding:0.25em 0.9em;width:100%}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-image{border:none;padding:2px 0 2px 0.9em;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-imageright{border:none;padding:2px 0.9em 2px 0;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-empty-cell{border:none;padding:0;width:1px}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-invalid-type{text-align:center}@media(min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .tmbox{margin:4px 10%}.mw-parser-output .tmbox.mbox-small{clear:right;float:right;margin:4px 0 4px 1em;width:238px}}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .tmbox{background-color:#2e2505}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .tmbox-speedy{background-color:#310402}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .tmbox{background-color:#2e2505}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .tmbox-speedy{background-color:#310402}}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output table.tmbox img{max-width:none!important}</style><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="full"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>I'm making some edits to a large table containing lots of dates and find the <code>formatnum</code> <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Formatting" class="extiw" title="mw:Help:Magic words">magic word</a> is causing commas in the years, which looks odd. </p><p>I've just updated <a href="/wiki/Template:Number_table_sorting/sandbox" title="Template:Number table sorting/sandbox">the sandbox</a> (<span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Number_table_sorting/sandbox&oldid=424380852">revision 424380852</a></span>) with a new argument <code>{{{noformat}}}</code> that will optionally suppress that <code>formatnum</code> call. Could someone effect that edit to the template itself, please? </p><p>The specifics of the edit are changing </p> <pre>{{formatnum:{{{1}}}}}}} </pre> <p>to </p> <pre>{{#ifeq:{{{noformat|}}}|yes|{{{1}}}|{{formatnum:{{{1}}}}}}}}} </pre> <p>, the rest of the template is merely a copy/paste of the current revision. Thanks! — <a href="/wiki/User:OwenBlacker" title="User:OwenBlacker">OwenBlacker</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:OwenBlacker" title="User talk:OwenBlacker">Talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-OwenBlacker-2011-04-16T15:52:00.000Z-Requested_edit:_Making_number_formatting_optional" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:52, 16 April 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-OwenBlacker-2011-04-16T15:52:00.000Z-Requested_edit:_Making_number_formatting_optional"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-OwenBlacker-2011-04-16T15:52:00.000Z-Requested_edit:_Making_number_formatting_optional"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MSGJ-2011-04-17T16:50:00.000Z-OwenBlacker-2011-04-16T15:52:00.000Z"></span>Wouldn't it be more logical to use <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|format=no</code> instead of <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|noformat=yes</code>? Obviously the default would be "yes" in this case. — Martin <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:MSGJ" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:MSGJ" title="User talk:MSGJ">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-MSGJ-2011-04-17T16:50:00.000Z-OwenBlacker-2011-04-16T15:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:50, 17 April 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MSGJ-2011-04-17T16:50:00.000Z-OwenBlacker-2011-04-16T15:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MSGJ-2011-04-17T16:50:00.000Z-OwenBlacker-2011-04-16T15:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-OwenBlacker-2011-04-17T21:41:00.000Z-MSGJ-2011-04-17T16:50:00.000Z"></span>I don't really have any strong preference; I'd not really thought about it either way. I've created a template <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Ntsy&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Ntsy (page does not exist)">ntsy</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> that's waiting for this edit, but that's easy enough to change. — <a href="/wiki/User:OwenBlacker" title="User:OwenBlacker">OwenBlacker</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:OwenBlacker" title="User talk:OwenBlacker">Talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-OwenBlacker-2011-04-17T21:41:00.000Z-MSGJ-2011-04-17T16:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:41, 17 April 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-OwenBlacker-2011-04-17T21:41:00.000Z-MSGJ-2011-04-17T16:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-OwenBlacker-2011-04-17T21:41:00.000Z-MSGJ-2011-04-17T16:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MSGJ-2011-04-18T12:26:00.000Z-OwenBlacker-2011-04-17T21:41:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b></span>. Please let me know if this does not work correctly. — Martin <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:MSGJ" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:MSGJ" title="User talk:MSGJ">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-MSGJ-2011-04-18T12:26:00.000Z-OwenBlacker-2011-04-17T21:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:26, 18 April 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MSGJ-2011-04-18T12:26:00.000Z-OwenBlacker-2011-04-17T21:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MSGJ-2011-04-18T12:26:00.000Z-OwenBlacker-2011-04-17T21:41:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-OwenBlacker-2011-04-24T12:34:00.000Z-MSGJ-2011-04-18T12:26:00.000Z"></span>Perfect, thank you. — <a href="/wiki/User:OwenBlacker" title="User:OwenBlacker">OwenBlacker</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:OwenBlacker" title="User talk:OwenBlacker">Talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-OwenBlacker-2011-04-24T12:34:00.000Z-MSGJ-2011-04-18T12:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:34, 24 April 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-OwenBlacker-2011-04-24T12:34:00.000Z-MSGJ-2011-04-18T12:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-OwenBlacker-2011-04-24T12:34:00.000Z-MSGJ-2011-04-18T12:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Proposed_fix_for_negative_numbers" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proposed_fix_for_negative_numbers-2011-08-23T22:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proposed_fix_for_negative_numbers-2011-08-23T22:24:00.000Z"></span>Proposed fix for negative numbers<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proposed_fix_for_negative_numbers-2011-08-23T22:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Proposed fix for negative numbers"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Droll-2011-08-23T22:24:00.000Z-Proposed_fix_for_negative_numbers"></span>I going take more time to proof my fix. I ran across situations where #expr: choked on comma delimited numbers. I seems like this does not happen in the current version. So ignore the following for now. Currently the code in the sandbox works. </p><p>This template generates output that facilitates the sorting of numeric values in sortable tables. Currently the template fails to generate output that allows negative numbers to be sorted correctly. I have a version that fixes this in the template's <a href="/wiki/Template:Number_table_sorting" title="Template:Number table sorting">sandbox</a> and some test cases <a href="/wiki/Template:Number_table_sorting/testcases" title="Template:Number table sorting/testcases">here</a>. The sandbox version includes more conditionals and generates a longer hidden sort key. If you think it might break some pages then maybe the template should be forked. –<a href="/wiki/User:Droll" title="User:Droll"><span style="color:#355E3B;"><b>droll</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Droll" title="User talk:Droll"><span style="color:#704214;"><b>[chat]</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Droll-2011-08-23T22:24:00.000Z-Proposed_fix_for_negative_numbers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:24, 23 August 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Droll-2011-08-23T22:24:00.000Z-Proposed_fix_for_negative_numbers"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Droll-2011-08-23T22:24:00.000Z-Proposed_fix_for_negative_numbers"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MSGJ-2011-08-29T07:49:00.000Z-Droll-2011-08-23T22:24:00.000Z"></span>I'm happy to apply your code if you are sure it is working correctly. I don't see foresee any problems with this approach. — Martin <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:MSGJ" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:MSGJ" title="User talk:MSGJ">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-MSGJ-2011-08-29T07:49:00.000Z-Droll-2011-08-23T22:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:49, 29 August 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MSGJ-2011-08-29T07:49:00.000Z-Droll-2011-08-23T22:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MSGJ-2011-08-29T07:49:00.000Z-Droll-2011-08-23T22:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Droll-2011-08-29T09:23:00.000Z-MSGJ-2011-08-29T07:49:00.000Z"></span>I'm confident that the code is good. My only concern is that it will use more resources and might break a page, but the page would have to have a lot of other stuff as well as tables. –<a href="/wiki/User:Droll" title="User:Droll"><span style="color:#355E3B;"><b>droll</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Droll" title="User talk:Droll"><span style="color:#704214;"><b>[chat]</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Droll-2011-08-29T09:23:00.000Z-MSGJ-2011-08-29T07:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:23, 29 August 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Droll-2011-08-29T09:23:00.000Z-MSGJ-2011-08-29T07:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Droll-2011-08-29T09:23:00.000Z-MSGJ-2011-08-29T07:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Droll-2011-08-29T09:34:00.000Z-Droll-2011-08-29T09:23:00.000Z"></span>P.S. I included a <code>quite</code> parameter that can be used by the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Ntsh" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Ntsh">ntsh</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template. I'll clean up the documentation and propose that <span class="nowrap">{{ntsh}}</span> become a front end for this template. <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Convert" title="Template:Convert">Convert</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> transcludes <span class="nowrap">{{ntsh}}</span>. –<a href="/wiki/User:Droll" title="User:Droll"><span style="color:#355E3B;"><b>droll</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Droll" title="User talk:Droll"><span style="color:#704214;"><b>[chat]</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Droll-2011-08-29T09:34:00.000Z-Droll-2011-08-29T09:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:34, 29 August 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Droll-2011-08-29T09:34:00.000Z-Droll-2011-08-29T09:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Droll-2011-08-29T09:34:00.000Z-Droll-2011-08-29T09:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MSGJ-2011-08-29T19:25:00.000Z-Droll-2011-08-29T09:34:00.000Z"></span>Okay, let me know when you are ready. Per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PERF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PERF">WP:PERF</a> I don't think you need to worry about performance issues. Do you mean <i>quiet</i>? And do you think we could expand the <i>ntsh</i> acronym by moving the template to a clearer name? — Martin <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:MSGJ" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:MSGJ" title="User talk:MSGJ">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-MSGJ-2011-08-29T19:25:00.000Z-Droll-2011-08-29T09:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:25, 29 August 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MSGJ-2011-08-29T19:25:00.000Z-Droll-2011-08-29T09:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MSGJ-2011-08-29T19:25:00.000Z-Droll-2011-08-29T09:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Droll-2011-08-30T03:57:00.000Z-Proposed_fix_for_negative_numbers"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="full"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Your right the name of the parameter is <code>quiet</code>. I added <span class="nowrap">{{editprotected}}</span> template –<a href="/wiki/User:Droll" title="User:Droll"><span style="color:#355E3B;"><b>droll</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Droll" title="User talk:Droll"><span style="color:#704214;"><b>[chat]</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Droll-2011-08-30T03:57:00.000Z-Proposed_fix_for_negative_numbers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:57, 30 August 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Droll-2011-08-30T03:57:00.000Z-Proposed_fix_for_negative_numbers"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Droll-2011-08-30T03:57:00.000Z-Proposed_fix_for_negative_numbers"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MSGJ-2011-08-31T08:58:00.000Z-Droll-2011-08-30T03:57:00.000Z"></span>Made a few tweaks to whitespace and deployed. Let me know if anything goes wrong! — Martin <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:MSGJ" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:MSGJ" title="User talk:MSGJ">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-MSGJ-2011-08-31T08:58:00.000Z-Droll-2011-08-30T03:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:58, 31 August 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MSGJ-2011-08-31T08:58:00.000Z-Droll-2011-08-30T03:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MSGJ-2011-08-31T08:58:00.000Z-Droll-2011-08-30T03:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"><span style="display:block;width:6.4em;height:0.5em;border-bottom:1px solid #a2a9b1;border-right:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span><span style="display:block;width:6.4em;height:0.5em;border-left:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Droll-2011-08-31T10:23:00.000Z-Proposed_fix_for_negative_numbers"></span>Thanks, MSGJ. –<a href="/wiki/User:Droll" title="User:Droll"><span style="color:#355E3B;"><b>droll</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Droll" title="User talk:Droll"><span style="color:#704214;"><b>[chat]</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Droll-2011-08-31T10:23:00.000Z-Proposed_fix_for_negative_numbers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:23, 31 August 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Droll-2011-08-31T10:23:00.000Z-Proposed_fix_for_negative_numbers"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Droll-2011-08-31T10:23:00.000Z-Proposed_fix_for_negative_numbers"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gary_King-2011-10-10T18:18:00.000Z-Droll-2011-08-31T10:23:00.000Z"></span>I haven't dealt with this template in a while, but it seems like something else has changed. Before, I believe you could also put text in the argument and it would work fine. Now, something like <b><code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">&lt;span data-sort-value="1000000000000000000♠"&gt;10th&lt;/span&gt;</code></b> produces the following:</dd></dl> <p><span data-sort-value="1000000000000000000♠">10th</span> </p> <dl><dd>With the PRE tag and all. Weird? I'm also getting tons of errors in another template that uses this template, and in the process of debugging it, hopefully it has nothing to do with the most recent edit, although I suspect it probably does since the arguments over there also include some text at the end. <span style="font-family:Verdana;"><a href="/wiki/User:Gary_King" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Gary King"><span style="color:#02b;">Gary <b>King</b></span></a> <span style="font-size: 0.9em;">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gary_King" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Gary King"><span style="color:#02e;">talk</span></a> · <a href="/wiki/User:Gary_King/Scripts" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Gary King/Scripts"><span style="color:#02e;">scripts</span></a>)</span></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Gary_King-2011-10-10T18:18:00.000Z-Droll-2011-08-31T10:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 10 October 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gary_King-2011-10-10T18:18:00.000Z-Droll-2011-08-31T10:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gary_King-2011-10-10T18:18:00.000Z-Droll-2011-08-31T10:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><b><a href="/wiki/Comparison_of_video_hosting_services" title="Comparison of video hosting services"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mechamind90-2011-10-12T20:30:00.000Z-Gary_King-2011-10-10T18:18:00.000Z"></span>This page</a></b> is a mess, at least on the browser I'm using right now (Firefox 3.6.6 Mac OS X). Something tells me that the new code supports numbers only, and no letters or symbols. I am going to use some <a href="/wiki/Template:Ntsh" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Ntsh">ntsh</a> until there is another solution in place. <a href="/wiki/User:Mechamind90" title="User:Mechamind90"><span style="color:#0000FF;">mechamind</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mechamind90" title="User talk:Mechamind90"><span style="color:#009900;">9</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mechamind90" title="Special:Contributions/Mechamind90"><span style="color:#FF0000;">0</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Mechamind90-2011-10-12T20:30:00.000Z-Gary_King-2011-10-10T18:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:30, 12 October 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mechamind90-2011-10-12T20:30:00.000Z-Gary_King-2011-10-10T18:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mechamind90-2011-10-12T20:30:00.000Z-Gary_King-2011-10-10T18:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Proposed_edit:_explicitly_state_how_to_use_the_template_for_following_text" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proposed_edit:_explicitly_state_how_to_use_the_template_for_following_text-2012-01-13T05:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proposed_edit:_explicitly_state_how_to_use_the_template_for_following_text-2012-01-13T05:04:00.000Z"></span>Proposed edit: explicitly state how to use the template for following text<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proposed_edit:_explicitly_state_how_to_use_the_template_for_following_text-2012-01-13T05:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Proposed edit: explicitly state how to use the template for following text"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jessemv-2012-01-13T05:04:00.000Z-Proposed_edit:_explicitly_state_how_to_use_the_template_for_following_text"></span>I was confused a bit by this article. It mentioned that the template is useful if text follows a number, but didn't specifically state how the template was supposed to be used in that situation. I figured it out, you simply type {{nts | 123,456}} and put text after it to achieve that result. I would recommend that this be stated explicitly somehow. The wikitext "{{nts | 426,004}} as of January 2012" achieves an output of "426,004 as of January 2012" but with the numerical sort key 426,004. Please state this in the article, I can't edit it myself. I believe it will be highly useful to others, and should only serve to make the article better. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Jessemv" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jessemv">Jessemv</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jessemv" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Jessemv">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Jessemv-2012-01-13T05:04:00.000Z-Proposed_edit:_explicitly_state_how_to_use_the_template_for_following_text" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:04, 13 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jessemv-2012-01-13T05:04:00.000Z-Proposed_edit:_explicitly_state_how_to_use_the_template_for_following_text"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jessemv-2012-01-13T05:04:00.000Z-Proposed_edit:_explicitly_state_how_to_use_the_template_for_following_text"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MSGJ-2012-01-13T14:39:00.000Z-Jessemv-2012-01-13T05:04:00.000Z"></span>Hi Jessemv, the documentation for this template is held at <a href="/wiki/Template:Number_table_sorting/doc" title="Template:Number table sorting/doc">Template:Number table sorting/doc</a> and this is fully editable by anyone, so please make the changes you see fit. Regards — Martin <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:MSGJ" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:MSGJ" title="User talk:MSGJ">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-MSGJ-2012-01-13T14:39:00.000Z-Jessemv-2012-01-13T05:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:39, 13 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MSGJ-2012-01-13T14:39:00.000Z-Jessemv-2012-01-13T05:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MSGJ-2012-01-13T14:39:00.000Z-Jessemv-2012-01-13T05:04:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jessemv-2012-01-13T22:53:00.000Z-MSGJ-2012-01-13T14:39:00.000Z"></span>Brilliant, I'll try my best. :) <a href="/wiki/User:Jessemv" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jessemv">Jessemv</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jessemv" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Jessemv">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Jessemv-2012-01-13T22:53:00.000Z-MSGJ-2012-01-13T14:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:53, 13 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jessemv-2012-01-13T22:53:00.000Z-MSGJ-2012-01-13T14:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jessemv-2012-01-13T22:53:00.000Z-MSGJ-2012-01-13T14:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="And_now_for_something_completely_different_..." data-mw-thread-id="h-And_now_for_something_completely_different_...-2012-05-09T08:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-And_now_for_something_completely_different_...-2012-05-09T08:00:00.000Z"></span>And now for something completely different ...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-And_now_for_something_completely_different_...-2012-05-09T08:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: And now for something completely different ..."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jimp-2012-05-09T08:00:00.000Z-And_now_for_something_completely_different_..."></span>I was looking at this template wondering whether we could do the same thing quicker; whether the code could be simplified (look, for example at <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Number_table_sorting/positive&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Number table sorting/positive (page does not exist)">number table sorting/positive</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>). Sure it could thought I and we could easily extend the range a bit whilst we're at it. </p><p>We're limitted to a range of ±10<sup>16</sup> with a precision of 6 decimal places. Look at the hidden output. There's an "&" and twenty-three digits (unless it's out of range). The first digit is a "1" or "0" (for positive & negative), I thought, we could get five times the range by going all the way up to "9". The next sixteen digits are calculated one by one. This is inefficient. The final six digits are calculated altogether. This is better; so why not calculate those sixteen digits like that? And why not? So I got to work on a new design. </p><p>To cut a medium-length story short, it's just dawned on me that we're doing it all wrong. I'm planning to significantly simplify the code and at the same time vastly expand the range. I'm not talking five times the range anymore, not five hundred time nor even five million; more like five thousand octoquadragintillion. It's simple. Don't do the same thing quicker do something better & quicker. Instead of having the first digit represent the sign have the first four digits represent the sign and the order of magnitude. The next fourteen digits will represent the significand. </p><p>Instead of using zeros to show magnitude, use numbers. We'll be looking at a range of about ±10<sup>300</sup> to ±10<sup>–300</sup> instead of the current ±10<sup>16</sup> to ±10<sup>–6</sup>. <a href="/wiki/User:Jimp" title="User:Jimp">J<small>IM</small>p</a><sub> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jimp" title="User talk:Jimp">talk</a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jimp" title="Special:Contributions/Jimp">cont</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Jimp-2012-05-09T08:00:00.000Z-And_now_for_something_completely_different_..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:00, 9 May 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jimp-2012-05-09T08:00:00.000Z-And_now_for_something_completely_different_..."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jimp-2012-05-09T08:00:00.000Z-And_now_for_something_completely_different_..."></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Droll-2012-05-09T18:47:00.000Z-Jimp-2012-05-09T08:00:00.000Z"></span>Don't forget that <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Ntsh" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Ntsh">Ntsh</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> uses this template's sub-templates. –<a href="/wiki/User:Droll" title="User:Droll"><span style="color:#355E3B;"><b>droll</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Droll" title="User talk:Droll"><span style="color:#704214;"><b>[chat]</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Droll-2012-05-09T18:47:00.000Z-Jimp-2012-05-09T08:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:47, 9 May 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Droll-2012-05-09T18:47:00.000Z-Jimp-2012-05-09T08:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Droll-2012-05-09T18:47:00.000Z-Jimp-2012-05-09T08:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jimp-2012-05-10T01:52:00.000Z-And_now_for_something_completely_different_..."></span>No, actually that's what lead me here in the first place. Well, I've written the new version. I'm afraid I haven't quite simplified the code. But I haven't significantly increased it either. There's about the same ammount of code as the current version (so I'm not expecting it to break anything). But what it does achieve is the promised increase in range. <a href="/wiki/User:Jimp" title="User:Jimp">J<small>IM</small>p</a><sub> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jimp" title="User talk:Jimp">talk</a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jimp" title="Special:Contributions/Jimp">cont</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Jimp-2012-05-10T01:52:00.000Z-And_now_for_something_completely_different_..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:52, 10 May 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jimp-2012-05-10T01:52:00.000Z-And_now_for_something_completely_different_..."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jimp-2012-05-10T01:52:00.000Z-And_now_for_something_completely_different_..."></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jimp-2012-09-27T01:16:00.000Z-And_now_for_something_completely_different_..."></span>Okay, four and a half months later I'm back to finish off the job. The new code has been tested and things look good. It going live. <a href="/wiki/User:Jimp" title="User:Jimp">J<small>IM</small>p</a><sub> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jimp" title="User talk:Jimp">talk</a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jimp" title="Special:Contributions/Jimp">cont</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Jimp-2012-09-27T01:16:00.000Z-And_now_for_something_completely_different_..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:16, 27 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jimp-2012-09-27T01:16:00.000Z-And_now_for_something_completely_different_..."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jimp-2012-09-27T01:16:00.000Z-And_now_for_something_completely_different_..."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Addition_of_a_suffix_parameter" data-mw-thread-id="h-Addition_of_a_suffix_parameter-2014-06-20T18:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Addition_of_a_suffix_parameter-2014-06-20T18:39:00.000Z"></span>Addition of a suffix parameter<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Addition_of_a_suffix_parameter-2014-06-20T18:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Addition of a suffix parameter"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dustin_V._S.-2014-06-20T18:39:00.000Z-Addition_of_a_suffix_parameter"></span>There is a <i>prefix</i> parameter with this template, but would it be very difficult to add a <i>suffix</i> parameter? If this parameter was to be added, it would be like this: </p><p>{{nts|10000|suffix=&nbsp;(est.)}} would display: 10,000 (est.) </p><p>Would this be difficult to implement? Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Dustin_V._S." class="mw-redirect" title="User:Dustin V. S."><span style="color:green; font-family:Times New Roman"><i>Dustin</i></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dustin_V._S." class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Dustin V. S.">(<span style="color:green; font-family:Times New Roman">talk</span>)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Dustin_V._S.-2014-06-20T18:39:00.000Z-Addition_of_a_suffix_parameter" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 20 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dustin_V._S.-2014-06-20T18:39:00.000Z-Addition_of_a_suffix_parameter"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dustin_V._S.-2014-06-20T18:39:00.000Z-Addition_of_a_suffix_parameter"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Protected_edit_request_on_22_September_2014" data-mw-thread-id="h-Protected_edit_request_on_22_September_2014-2014-09-22T08:06:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Protected_edit_request_on_22_September_2014-2014-09-22T08:06:00.000Z"></span>Protected edit request on 22 September 2014<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Protected_edit_request_on_22_September_2014-2014-09-22T08:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Protected edit request on 22 September 2014"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NickGibson3900-2014-09-22T08:06:00.000Z-Protected_edit_request_on_22_September_2014"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="full"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> to <a href="/wiki/Template:Nts" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Nts">Template:Nts</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Template:Nts redirects to Template:Number table sorting. Surely the redirect should be tagged <code>{{R from template shortcut}}</code> <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:NickGibson3900&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:NickGibson3900 (page does not exist)"><span style="color:blue;">NickGibson3900</span></a> <sup><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NickGibson3900&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:NickGibson3900 (page does not exist)"><span style="color:red;">Talk</span></a></sup></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-NickGibson3900-2014-09-22T08:06:00.000Z-Protected_edit_request_on_22_September_2014" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:06, 22 September 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NickGibson3900-2014-09-22T08:06:00.000Z-Protected_edit_request_on_22_September_2014"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NickGibson3900-2014-09-22T08:06:00.000Z-Protected_edit_request_on_22_September_2014"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-2014-09-22T18:35:00.000Z-NickGibson3900-2014-09-22T08:06:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/40px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> <b>Done</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Redrose64-2014-09-22T18:35:00.000Z-NickGibson3900-2014-09-22T08:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:35, 22 September 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-2014-09-22T18:35:00.000Z-NickGibson3900-2014-09-22T08:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-2014-09-22T18:35:00.000Z-NickGibson3900-2014-09-22T08:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sort_key_quirks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sort_key_quirks-2015-07-28T03:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sort_key_quirks-2015-07-28T03:49:00.000Z"></span>Sort key quirks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sort_key_quirks-2015-07-28T03:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Sort key quirks"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-2015-07-28T03:49:00.000Z-Sort_key_quirks"></span>While checking <a href="/wiki/Module:Val" title="Module:Val">Module:Val</a> I have noticed many minor differences regarding sort keys. The issues probably do not affect table sort orders, but there is a problem in the template if anyone wants a challenge. I believe the val sort keys shown below (generated by the code at function <code>make_table_or_sort</code> in <a href="/wiki/Module:Convert/sandbox" title="Module:Convert/sandbox">Module:Convert/sandbox</a>) are correct. </p> <ul><li><span data-sort-value="6989100000000000000♠"><span style="border:1px solid">6989100000000000000♠</span>1<span style="margin-left:0.2em">×<span style="margin-left:0.1em">10</span></span><s style="display:none">^</s><sup>−11</sup></span> ← <code>{{nts|1e-11|debug=yes}}</code></li> <li><span class="nowrap"><span data-sort-value="6989100000000000000♠"><span style="border:1px solid">6989100000000000000♠</span></span>1<span style="margin-left:0.25em;margin-right:0.15em;">×</span>10<sup>−11</sup></span> ←<code>{{val/sandboxlua|1e-11|debug=yes}}</code></li> <li><span data-sort-value="7001333000000000000♠"><span style="border:1px solid">7001333000000000000♠</span>33.3</span> ← <code>{{nts|33.3|debug=yes}}</code></li> <li><span class="nowrap"><span data-sort-value="7001333000000000000♠"><span style="border:1px solid">7001333000000000000♠</span></span>33.3</span> ←<code>{{val/sandboxlua|33.3|debug=yes}}</code></li> <li><span data-sort-value="7000137999999999999♠"><span style="border:1px solid">7000137999999999999♠</span>1.38</span> ← <code>{{nts|1.38|debug=yes}}</code></li> <li><span class="nowrap"><span data-sort-value="7000137999999999999♠"><span style="border:1px solid">7000137999999999999♠</span></span>1.38</span> ←<code>{{val/sandboxlua|1.38|debug=yes}}</code></li> <li><span data-sort-value="6993770000000000000♠"><span style="border:1px solid">6993770000000000000♠</span>7.7<span style="margin-left:0.2em">×<span style="margin-left:0.1em">10</span></span><s style="display:none">^</s><sup>−7</sup></span> ← <code>{{nts|7.7e-7|debug=yes}}</code></li> <li><span class="nowrap"><span data-sort-value="6993769999999999999♠"><span style="border:1px solid">6993769999999999999♠</span></span>7.7<span style="margin-left:0.25em;margin-right:0.15em;">×</span>10<sup>−7</sup></span> ←<code>{{val/sandboxlua|7.7e-7|debug=yes}}</code></li></ul> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq" title="User talk:Johnuniq">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Johnuniq-2015-07-28T03:49:00.000Z-Sort_key_quirks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:49, 28 July 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-2015-07-28T03:49:00.000Z-Sort_key_quirks"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-2015-07-28T03:49:00.000Z-Sort_key_quirks"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Didn't_sort" data-mw-thread-id="h-Didn't_sort-2016-11-02T07:57:00.000Z"><span id="Didn.27t_sort"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Didn't_sort-2016-11-02T07:57:00.000Z"></span>Didn't sort<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Didn't_sort-2016-11-02T07:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Didn't sort"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mikael_Häggström-2016-11-02T07:57:00.000Z-Didn't_sort"></span>I tried to use this template at <a href="/wiki/List_of_household_surveys_in_the_United_States" title="List of household surveys in the United States">List of household surveys in the United States</a>, but it still doesn't sort correctly. Any ideas of how to solve this? <a href="/wiki/User:Mikael_H%C3%A4ggstr%C3%B6m" title="User:Mikael Häggström">Mikael Häggström</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mikael_H%C3%A4ggstr%C3%B6m" title="User talk:Mikael Häggström">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Mikael_Häggström-2016-11-02T07:57:00.000Z-Didn't_sort" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:57, 2 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mikael_Häggström-2016-11-02T07:57:00.000Z-Didn't_sort"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mikael_Häggström-2016-11-02T07:57:00.000Z-Didn't_sort"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-2016-11-02T09:42:00.000Z-Mikael_Häggström-2016-11-02T07:57:00.000Z"></span>Do you mean the items in the "Number of people" column which start with "Over"? That's because the sort key occurs after "Over ", so the item is sorted as text starting with "O". One solution would be to use ntsh at the beginning to produce the key, followed with "Over 50,000" to produce the visible text. That requires duplicating the number. Another solution would be to use <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Val" title="Template:Val">val</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> like this: <dl><dd><code>{{val|50,000|fmt=commas|p=Over&#32;}}</code></dd></dl></dd> <dd>Using <code>&#32;</code> generates a space, and <code>p=</code> makes "Over " a prefix that is displayed before the value, but after the hidden sort key. A difference is that val makes all the text "no wrap".</dd> <dd>However, you cannot use val for all the items because it cannot handle "3.5 million" (it can only show numbers like <span class="nowrap"><span data-sort-value="7006350000000000000♠"></span>3.5<span style="margin-left:0.25em;margin-right:0.15em;">×</span>10<sup>6</sup></span>). The sort keys produced by val and ntsh are almost always the same, so you could use val for some items and ntsh/nts for others. However, it might be simpler to use ntsh/nts for all entries and duplicate the values with "Over". <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq" title="User talk:Johnuniq">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Johnuniq-2016-11-02T09:42:00.000Z-Mikael_Häggström-2016-11-02T07:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:42, 2 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-2016-11-02T09:42:00.000Z-Mikael_Häggström-2016-11-02T07:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-2016-11-02T09:42:00.000Z-Mikael_Häggström-2016-11-02T07:57:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mikael_Häggström-2016-11-03T08:08:00.000Z-Johnuniq-2016-11-02T09:42:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for identifying the problem! I switched <i>Over___</i> to <i>___+</i>. <a href="/wiki/User:Mikael_H%C3%A4ggstr%C3%B6m" title="User:Mikael Häggström">Mikael Häggström</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mikael_H%C3%A4ggstr%C3%B6m" title="User talk:Mikael Häggström">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Mikael_Häggström-2016-11-03T08:08:00.000Z-Johnuniq-2016-11-02T09:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:08, 3 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mikael_Häggström-2016-11-03T08:08:00.000Z-Johnuniq-2016-11-02T09:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mikael_Häggström-2016-11-03T08:08:00.000Z-Johnuniq-2016-11-02T09:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Precision_parameter_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Precision_parameter_request-2016-12-07T03:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Precision_parameter_request-2016-12-07T03:26:00.000Z"></span>Precision parameter request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Precision_parameter_request-2016-12-07T03:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Precision parameter request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Jimp" title="User:Jimp"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hwy43-2016-12-07T03:26:00.000Z-Precision_parameter_request"></span>Jimp</a> et al, I have embedded an expression template into this template and I want the output to round to a precision of two decimal places. Right now, <code>{{nts|{{#expr:614.204+373.6684+207.5538+1978.7031+3.5434}}}}</code> produces 3,177.6727 when I want it to produce 3,177.67. Can anyone assist by either adding a precision parameter within this or the expression template? Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Hwy43" title="User:Hwy43">Hwy43</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hwy43" title="User talk:Hwy43">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Hwy43-2016-12-07T03:26:00.000Z-Precision_parameter_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:26, 7 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hwy43-2016-12-07T03:26:00.000Z-Precision_parameter_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hwy43-2016-12-07T03:26:00.000Z-Precision_parameter_request"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-2016-12-07T04:02:00.000Z-Hwy43-2016-12-07T03:26:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Hwy43" title="User:Hwy43">Hwy43</a>: The template <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Round" title="Template:Round">round</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> can be used. However, since you are using #expr, it supports rounding. The syntax is a shock, but it works. <ul><li><code>{{nts|{{#expr:614.204+373.6684+207.5538+1978.7031+3.5434round2}}}}</code> → <span data-sort-value="7003317767000000000♠">3,177.67</span></li></ul></dd> <dd>It would give ugly results if an error occurred in the calculation, and the sort key is based on the rounded value which is perhaps suboptimal. However, it should do what is needed. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq" title="User talk:Johnuniq">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Johnuniq-2016-12-07T04:02:00.000Z-Hwy43-2016-12-07T03:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:02, 7 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-2016-12-07T04:02:00.000Z-Hwy43-2016-12-07T03:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-2016-12-07T04:02:00.000Z-Hwy43-2016-12-07T03:26:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hwy43-2016-12-07T04:41:00.000Z-Johnuniq-2016-12-07T04:02:00.000Z"></span>Johnuniq</a>, thanks. I've used the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Round" title="Template:Round">round</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template. Another question though... <code>{{nts|{{round|{{#expr:1114.9921+1157.0342+897.7522+1054.056+11.1526}}|2}}}}</code> renders 3,569.1, yet I want it to produce 3,569.1<b>0</b> (so that all entries within a column consistently have two decimal places). Is there a way to force a zero as the last decimal place? I'm having a similar problem with the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Percentage" title="Template:Percentage">percentage</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template. I want <code>{{percentage|912100|921727|1}}</code> to produce 99.<b>0</b>%, yet it renders 99%. <a href="/wiki/User:Hwy43" title="User:Hwy43">Hwy43</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hwy43" title="User talk:Hwy43">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Hwy43-2016-12-07T04:41:00.000Z-Johnuniq-2016-12-07T04:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:41, 7 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hwy43-2016-12-07T04:41:00.000Z-Johnuniq-2016-12-07T04:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hwy43-2016-12-07T04:41:00.000Z-Johnuniq-2016-12-07T04:02:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-2016-12-07T04:48:00.000Z-Hwy43-2016-12-07T04:41:00.000Z"></span>I think you would need some really ugly hacks to display trailing zeroes. Template syntax is not my strong point and you might ask at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Templates" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Templates">WP:WikiProject Templates</a>. Hmm, I just found <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Decimals" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Decimals">decimals</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> which might help if used instead of round. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq" title="User talk:Johnuniq">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Johnuniq-2016-12-07T04:48:00.000Z-Hwy43-2016-12-07T04:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:48, 7 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-2016-12-07T04:48:00.000Z-Hwy43-2016-12-07T04:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-2016-12-07T04:48:00.000Z-Hwy43-2016-12-07T04:41:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="nowrap"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hwy43-2016-12-07T06:51:00.000Z-Johnuniq-2016-12-07T04:48:00.000Z"></span>{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Decimals" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Decimals">Decimals</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> worked. See how <code>{{nts|{{Decimals|{{#expr:877.5886+1248.4023+1443.1108}}|2}}}}</code> produces <span data-sort-value="7003356910000000000♠">3,569.10</span>. Haven't been able to get it or <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Rnd" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Rnd">rnd</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> to force the trailing zero within <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Percentage" title="Template:Percentage">percentage</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> yet. <s>I'll ask at <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Percentage" title="Template talk:Percentage">Template talk:Percentage</a> and if no luck I'll approach <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Templates" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Templates">WP:WikiProject Templates</a> as suggested.</s> <a href="/wiki/User:Hwy43" title="User:Hwy43">Hwy43</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hwy43" title="User talk:Hwy43">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Hwy43-2016-12-07T06:51:00.000Z-Johnuniq-2016-12-07T04:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:51, 7 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hwy43-2016-12-07T06:51:00.000Z-Johnuniq-2016-12-07T04:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hwy43-2016-12-07T06:51:00.000Z-Johnuniq-2016-12-07T04:48:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hwy43-2016-12-07T07:00:00.000Z-Johnuniq-2016-12-07T04:48:00.000Z"></span>Discovered the pad parameter at <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Percentage" title="Template:Percentage">percentage</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. <code>{{percentage|912100|921727|1|pad=yes}}</code> now produces <span data-sort-value="7001989555475753666♠" style="display:none"></span>99.0%. We may want to consider implementing a pad parameter here as well to avoid the ugly hack workarounds described above. <a href="/wiki/User:Hwy43" title="User:Hwy43">Hwy43</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hwy43" title="User talk:Hwy43">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Hwy43-2016-12-07T07:00:00.000Z-Johnuniq-2016-12-07T04:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:00, 7 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hwy43-2016-12-07T07:00:00.000Z-Johnuniq-2016-12-07T04:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hwy43-2016-12-07T07:00:00.000Z-Johnuniq-2016-12-07T04:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nts_template_in_other_templates" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nts_template_in_other_templates-2016-12-27T22:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nts_template_in_other_templates-2016-12-27T22:41:00.000Z"></span>Nts template in other templates<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nts_template_in_other_templates-2016-12-27T22:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Nts template in other templates"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sabbatino-2016-12-27T22:41:00.000Z-Nts_template_in_other_templates"></span>Can this be used in other templates? One user keeps adding it to <a href="/wiki/Template:Player3" title="Template:Player3">Template:Player3</a>. However, it breaks the table as - (hyphen), – (ndash) and — (mdash) can no longer be used there. – <a href="/wiki/User:Sabbatino" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sabbatino">Sabbatino</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sabbatino" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Sabbatino">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Sabbatino-2016-12-27T22:41:00.000Z-Nts_template_in_other_templates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:41, 27 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sabbatino-2016-12-27T22:41:00.000Z-Nts_template_in_other_templates"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sabbatino-2016-12-27T22:41:00.000Z-Nts_template_in_other_templates"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Minor_error_in_error_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-Minor_error_in_error_message-2019-03-30T10:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Minor_error_in_error_message-2019-03-30T10:39:00.000Z"></span>Minor error in error message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Minor_error_in_error_message-2019-03-30T10:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Minor error in error message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-2019-03-30T10:39:00.000Z-Minor_error_in_error_message"></span>TheDJ</a>: The switch to the module has caused minor Linter errors when the variable <code>%s</code> is empty. The error message looks like this: <code>Error in [[Template:Nts]]: '' is not a valid number</code>. Note the two consecutive single quote marks, which the parser interprets as opening italic formatting. Can you please make a minor adjustment to insert a space between the two quote marks, or do something else to prevent this formatting error? Thanks. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Jonesey95-2019-03-30T10:39:00.000Z-Minor_error_in_error_message" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:39, 30 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-2019-03-30T10:39:00.000Z-Minor_error_in_error_message"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-2019-03-30T10:39:00.000Z-Minor_error_in_error_message"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheDJ-2019-03-30T13:41:00.000Z-Jonesey95-2019-03-30T10:39:00.000Z"></span>Jonesey95</a>, sure, ill fix it later today. —<a href="/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheDJ" title="User talk:TheDJ">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheDJ" title="Special:Contributions/TheDJ">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-TheDJ-2019-03-30T13:41:00.000Z-Jonesey95-2019-03-30T10:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:41, 30 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheDJ-2019-03-30T13:41:00.000Z-Jonesey95-2019-03-30T10:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheDJ-2019-03-30T13:41:00.000Z-Jonesey95-2019-03-30T10:39:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheDJ-2019-03-30T13:43:00.000Z-TheDJ-2019-03-30T13:41:00.000Z"></span>Don't think thats new though... if i remember the testcase results correctly, it did that before as well... —<a href="/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheDJ" title="User talk:TheDJ">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheDJ" title="Special:Contributions/TheDJ">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-TheDJ-2019-03-30T13:43:00.000Z-TheDJ-2019-03-30T13:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:43, 30 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheDJ-2019-03-30T13:43:00.000Z-TheDJ-2019-03-30T13:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheDJ-2019-03-30T13:43:00.000Z-TheDJ-2019-03-30T13:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheDJ-2019-03-31T12:37:00.000Z-Jonesey95-2019-03-30T10:39:00.000Z"></span>Jonesey95</a>, ok, invalid input is now allowed —<a href="/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheDJ" title="User talk:TheDJ">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheDJ" title="Special:Contributions/TheDJ">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-TheDJ-2019-03-31T12:37:00.000Z-Jonesey95-2019-03-30T10:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:37, 31 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Jonesey95-2019-03-31T19:14:00.000Z-TheDJ-2019-03-31T12:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:14, 31 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-2019-03-31T19:14:00.000Z-TheDJ-2019-03-31T12:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-2019-03-31T19:14:00.000Z-TheDJ-2019-03-31T12:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="NTS_template_modification" data-mw-thread-id="h-NTS_template_modification-2019-03-30T21:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-NTS_template_modification-2019-03-30T21:38:00.000Z"></span>NTS template modification<span data-mw-comment-end="h-NTS_template_modification-2019-03-30T21:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: NTS template modification"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hwy43-2019-03-30T21:38:00.000Z-NTS_template_modification"></span>TheDJ</a>: the recent modification is causing problems at <a href="/wiki/2019_Alberta_municipal_censuses" title="2019 Alberta municipal censuses">2019 Alberta municipal censuses</a>. Historically I have coded {{nts|}} in blank fields until the census results are published and it simply rendered as nothing. The old way was helpful because I didn't have to comment out the empty template previously (i.e. ). Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Hwy43" title="User:Hwy43">Hwy43</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hwy43" title="User talk:Hwy43">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Hwy43-2019-03-30T21:38:00.000Z-NTS_template_modification" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:38, 30 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hwy43-2019-03-30T21:38:00.000Z-NTS_template_modification"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hwy43-2019-03-30T21:38:00.000Z-NTS_template_modification"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Hwy43" title="User:Hwy43"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheDJ-2019-03-31T12:37:00.000Z-Hwy43-2019-03-30T21:38:00.000Z"></span>Hwy43</a>, invalid input is now allowed. —<a href="/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheDJ" title="User talk:TheDJ">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheDJ" title="Special:Contributions/TheDJ">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-TheDJ-2019-03-31T12:37:00.000Z-Hwy43-2019-03-30T21:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:37, 31 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheDJ-2019-03-31T12:37:00.000Z-Hwy43-2019-03-30T21:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheDJ-2019-03-31T12:37:00.000Z-Hwy43-2019-03-30T21:38:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hwy43-2019-04-01T21:11:00.000Z-TheDJ-2019-03-31T12:37:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Hwy43" title="User:Hwy43">Hwy43</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hwy43" title="User talk:Hwy43">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Hwy43-2019-04-01T21:11:00.000Z-TheDJ-2019-03-31T12:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:11, 1 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hwy43-2019-04-01T21:11:00.000Z-TheDJ-2019-03-31T12:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hwy43-2019-04-01T21:11:00.000Z-TheDJ-2019-03-31T12:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="No_scientific_notation" data-mw-thread-id="h-No_scientific_notation-2019-04-19T05:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-No_scientific_notation-2019-04-19T05:22:00.000Z"></span>No scientific notation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-No_scientific_notation-2019-04-19T05:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: No scientific notation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/List_of_legislatures_by_number_of_members" title="List of legislatures by number of members"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Reywas92-2019-04-19T05:22:00.000Z-No_scientific_notation"></span>List of legislatures by number of members</a> looks rather silly with the populations of China and India in scientific notation. Is there a way to suppress this and use regular numbers? Or perhaps just converting everything to data-sort-type="number" would be better? Would have to figure out how to do that automatically instead of by hand... <a href="/wiki/User:Reywas92" title="User:Reywas92">Reywas92</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Reywas92" title="User talk:Reywas92">Talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Reywas92-2019-04-19T05:22:00.000Z-No_scientific_notation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:22, 19 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Reywas92-2019-04-19T05:22:00.000Z-No_scientific_notation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Reywas92-2019-04-19T05:22:00.000Z-No_scientific_notation"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-2019-04-19T07:20:00.000Z-Reywas92-2019-04-19T05:22:00.000Z"></span>It appears there is no way to disable that scientific notation display. If I ever had time I might fix that but meanwhile I put a kludge in the article to workaround the problem. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq" title="User talk:Johnuniq">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Johnuniq-2019-04-19T07:20:00.000Z-Reywas92-2019-04-19T05:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:20, 19 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-2019-04-19T07:20:00.000Z-Reywas92-2019-04-19T05:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-2019-04-19T07:20:00.000Z-Reywas92-2019-04-19T05:22:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Samuel_Wiki-2019-06-07T05:28:00.000Z-Johnuniq-2019-04-19T07:20:00.000Z"></span>A fix for this would be great. <a href="/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Alphabet" title="List of mergers and acquisitions by Alphabet">List of mergers and acquisitions by Alphabet</a> also looks silly with scientific notation. - <a href="/wiki/User:Samuel_Wiki" title="User:Samuel Wiki">Samuel Wiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Samuel_Wiki" title="User talk:Samuel Wiki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Samuel_Wiki-2019-06-07T05:28:00.000Z-Johnuniq-2019-04-19T07:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:28, 7 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Samuel_Wiki-2019-06-07T05:28:00.000Z-Johnuniq-2019-04-19T07:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Samuel_Wiki-2019-06-07T05:28:00.000Z-Johnuniq-2019-04-19T07:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Requested_move_31_May_2019" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requested_move_31_May_2019-2019-05-31T23:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_move_31_May_2019-2019-05-31T23:31:00.000Z"></span>Requested move 31 May 2019<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_move_31_May_2019-2019-05-31T23:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Requested move 31 May 2019"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="boilerplate" style="background-color: #efe; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px dotted #aaa;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-QEDK-2019-06-09T19:44:00.000Z-Requested_move_31_May_2019"></span>The following is a closed discussion of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a>. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">move review</a> after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. </i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the move request was: <b>moved</b>. There is a <i>consensus</i> for this requested move. <small>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions#Closure_by_a_page_mover" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions">closed by non-admin page mover</a>)</small> <span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK">qedk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK">t</a> <span style="color:#fac">桜</span> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK">c</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-QEDK-2019-06-09T19:44:00.000Z-Requested_move_31_May_2019" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:44, 9 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-QEDK-2019-06-09T19:44:00.000Z-Requested_move_31_May_2019"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-QEDK-2019-06-09T19:44:00.000Z-Requested_move_31_May_2019"></span> </p> <hr/> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=Module:Nts&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Module:Nts (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pppery-2019-05-31T23:31:00.000Z-Requested_move_31_May_2019"></span>Module:Nts</a> → <a href="/wiki/Module:Number_table_sorting" title="Module:Number table sorting">Module:Number table sorting</a></li></ul> <p>– No apparent reason for the module to have an abbreviated name when the template's name has the abbreviation expanded. <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Pppery-2019-05-31T23:31:00.000Z-Requested_move_31_May_2019" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:31, 31 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-2019-05-31T23:31:00.000Z-Requested_move_31_May_2019"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-2019-05-31T23:31:00.000Z-Requested_move_31_May_2019"></span> </p> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Netoholic-2019-06-01T03:34:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-05-31T23:31:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> - modules tend to follow the naming standards for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TMP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TMP">templates</a>, and the principle of "function should be clear from the template name" is a reasonable one. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Netoholic" title="User:Netoholic">Netoholic</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Netoholic" title="User talk:Netoholic">@</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Netoholic-2019-06-01T03:34:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-05-31T23:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:34, 1 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Netoholic-2019-06-01T03:34:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-05-31T23:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Netoholic-2019-06-01T03:34:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-05-31T23:31:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gonnym-2019-06-01T08:36:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-05-31T23:31:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> per above. Note though that <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Dts" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Dts">Dts</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> is at the abbreviated name, but I'd support its change as well. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Gonnym-2019-06-01T08:36:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-05-31T23:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:36, 1 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gonnym-2019-06-01T08:36:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-05-31T23:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gonnym-2019-06-01T08:36:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-05-31T23:31:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pppery-2019-06-01T12:26:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-06-01T08:36:00.000Z"></span>My mistake. In that case, I am going to withdraw <a href="/wiki/Module:Dts" class="mw-redirect" title="Module:Dts">Module:Dts</a> from this nomination and open a new one for both the template and the module because I feel that conflating "Rename module to match template" and "Expand abbreviation in template name" is more confusing than helpful. <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Pppery-2019-06-01T12:26:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-06-01T08:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:26, 1 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-2019-06-01T12:26:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-06-01T08:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-2019-06-01T12:26:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-06-01T08:36:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pppery-2019-06-01T12:31:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-06-01T08:36:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Netoholic" title="User:Netoholic">Netoholic</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a>:</span> <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Dts#Requested_move_1_June_2019" class="mw-redirect" title="Template talk:Dts">Template talk:Dts#Requested move 1 June 2019</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Pppery-2019-06-01T12:31:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-06-01T08:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:31, 1 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-2019-06-01T12:31:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-06-01T08:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-2019-06-01T12:31:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-06-01T08:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-QEDK-2019-06-09T19:33:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-05-31T23:31:00.000Z"></span>Before I can make this change, can you tell me which templates are affected by this (as well as <a href="/wiki/Module:Dts" class="mw-redirect" title="Module:Dts">Module:Dts</a>), <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">Pppery</a>? Since modules can't have redirects, I cannot readily make the changes since templates will need to be edited as well. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK">qedk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK">t</a> <span style="color:#fac">桜</span> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK">c</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-QEDK-2019-06-09T19:33:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-05-31T23:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:33, 9 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-QEDK-2019-06-09T19:33:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-05-31T23:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-QEDK-2019-06-09T19:33:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-05-31T23:31:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pppery-2019-06-09T19:37:00.000Z-QEDK-2019-06-09T19:33:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK">QEDK</a>:</span> Yeah, module moving is a mess like that. The trick I use to determine which templates use a module is to do search for <code>insource:"#invoke:<name>"</code>. In this case, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=insource%3A%22%23invoke%3ANts%22&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Go&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns6=1&ns7=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1&ns100=1&ns101=1&ns108=1&ns109=1&ns118=1&ns119=1&ns446=1&ns447=1&ns710=1&ns711=1&ns828=1&ns829=1&ns2300=1&ns2301=1&ns2302=1&ns2303=1">that search</a> suggests that <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Number_table_sorting" title="Template:Number table sorting">Number table sorting</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> and <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Ntsh" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Ntsh">Ntsh</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> are the templates that need to be updated. <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Pppery-2019-06-09T19:37:00.000Z-QEDK-2019-06-09T19:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:37, 9 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-2019-06-09T19:37:00.000Z-QEDK-2019-06-09T19:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-2019-06-09T19:37:00.000Z-QEDK-2019-06-09T19:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-QEDK-2019-06-09T19:44:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-06-09T19:37:00.000Z"></span>Done now. I fixed a few in the documentation with bad regex, not sure if there's more. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK">qedk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK">t</a> <span style="color:#fac">桜</span> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK">c</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-QEDK-2019-06-09T19:44:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-06-09T19:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:44, 9 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-QEDK-2019-06-09T19:44:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-06-09T19:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-QEDK-2019-06-09T19:44:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-06-09T19:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a>. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">move review</a>. No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template-protected_edit_request_on_8_December_2019" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template-protected_edit_request_on_8_December_2019-2019-12-08T19:33:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template-protected_edit_request_on_8_December_2019-2019-12-08T19:33:00.000Z"></span>Template-protected edit request on 8 December 2019<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template-protected_edit_request_on_8_December_2019-2019-12-08T19:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Template-protected edit request on 8 December 2019"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T19:33:00.000Z-Template-protected_edit_request_on_8_December_2019"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="template"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Please consider adding a text alignment option <code>|align=</code>, defaulted to the right (e.g.:<code>align={{{align|right}}}</code>). <a href="/wiki/User:Guarapiranga" title="User:Guarapiranga">Guarapiranga</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guarapiranga" title="User talk:Guarapiranga">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T19:33:00.000Z-Template-protected_edit_request_on_8_December_2019" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:33, 8 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T19:33:00.000Z-Template-protected_edit_request_on_8_December_2019"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T19:33:00.000Z-Template-protected_edit_request_on_8_December_2019"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cabayi-2019-12-08T20:04:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T19:33:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/20px-Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/30px-Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/40px-Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="62" data-file-height="62"/></span></span> <b>Not done for now:</b> please establish a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a> for this alteration <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">before</a></b> using the <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Edit_template-protected" title="Template:Edit template-protected">edit template-protected</a>}}</code> template. The same request at <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Date_table_sorting#Template-protected_edit_request_on_8_December_2019" title="Template talk:Date table sorting">Template talk:Date table sorting#Template-protected edit request on 8 December 2019</a> was objected to. <a href="/wiki/User:Cabayi" title="User:Cabayi">Cabayi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cabayi" title="User talk:Cabayi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Cabayi-2019-12-08T20:04:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T19:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:04, 8 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cabayi-2019-12-08T20:04:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T19:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cabayi-2019-12-08T20:04:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T19:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T20:28:00.000Z-Cabayi-2019-12-08T20:04:00.000Z"></span>That's not an appropriate response, <a href="/wiki/User:Cabayi" title="User:Cabayi">Cabayi</a>. <ol><li>The page you're linking clearly states <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">it is not one of Wikipedia's policies or guidelines</q>.</li> <li>The <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Edit_template-protected" title="Template:Edit template-protected">edit template-protected</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template itself does <span style="text-decoration: underline;">not</span> say anything about <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">establishing a consensus</q> before using its use. In fact, it says the very opposite: <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1237805129">.mw-parser-output .talkquote{color:var(--color-base,#202122);background-color:#eaf8f4;border-left:3px solid #008560;padding:0 .8em;margin:0}.mw-parser-output .talkquote-by,.mw-parser-output .talkquote-source{margin-left:1.6em}.mw-parser-output .skin-vector-2022 .talkquote>:last-child{padding-bottom:0}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}</style><blockquote class="talkquote"><p>If you have noticed an error or have a suggestion for a simple, non-controversial change, you can submit an edit request</p></blockquote></li> <li>The very <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">WP:consensus</a> page you're linking defines consensus as <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">absence of objections</q>. If there are no objections, there already is consensus. The appropriate response to this is to either say <i>let's wait 48h and see if there are any objections</i>, or simply waiting that time period before acting upon the request.</li></ol></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Guarapiranga" title="User:Guarapiranga">Guarapiranga</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guarapiranga" title="User talk:Guarapiranga">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T20:28:00.000Z-Cabayi-2019-12-08T20:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:28, 8 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T20:28:00.000Z-Cabayi-2019-12-08T20:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T20:28:00.000Z-Cabayi-2019-12-08T20:04:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pppery-2019-12-08T21:03:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T20:28:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/18px-X_mark.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/27px-X_mark.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/36px-X_mark.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="525" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> <b>Not done</b></span> There's no reason to believe that <a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> wouldn't oppose this request as well; alignment has just as little to do with sorting numbers as sorting dates. <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Pppery-2019-12-08T21:03:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T20:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:03, 8 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-2019-12-08T21:03:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T20:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-2019-12-08T21:03:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T20:28:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T21:08:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-12-08T21:03:00.000Z"></span>Who's Gonnym?? What reason is there to believe that he would? Are we supposed to read his mind? And how's that relevant?? What matters to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">WP:consensus</a> is whether anyone <span style="text-decoration: underline;">expresses</span> opposition (not whether someone <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">would</q>). Do you? <a href="/wiki/User:Guarapiranga" title="User:Guarapiranga">Guarapiranga</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guarapiranga" title="User talk:Guarapiranga">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T21:08:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-12-08T21:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:08, 8 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T21:08:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-12-08T21:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T21:08:00.000Z-Pppery-2019-12-08T21:03:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pppery-2019-12-08T21:47:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T21:08:00.000Z"></span>Gonnym was the user who opposed <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Date_table_sorting#Template-protected_edit_request_on_8_December_2019" title="Template talk:Date table sorting">Template talk:Date table sorting#Template-protected edit request on 8 December 2019</a>, which was linked by Cabayi above. The rest of your comment consists of speculation that proved to be false, rendering it moot. (And before you ask, notifying users who participated in related discussions does not constitute inappropriate canvassing). <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Pppery-2019-12-08T21:47:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T21:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:47, 8 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-2019-12-08T21:47:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T21:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-2019-12-08T21:47:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T21:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gonnym-2019-12-08T21:19:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T19:33:00.000Z"></span>Hey,thanks for the mention. As I've commented on the previous request, what does alignment have to do with sorting? Oppose this request. <a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Gonnym-2019-12-08T21:19:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T19:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:19, 8 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gonnym-2019-12-08T21:19:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T19:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gonnym-2019-12-08T21:19:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T19:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guarapiranga-2019-12-10T13:46:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-12-08T21:19:00.000Z"></span>Are you opposing adding alignment as an option on this template simply based on its name, <a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a>? Sortable numbers on a table are almost always right justified. Why not save editors some trouble, and have it as an option (defaulted to the right)? <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:N%2Bp" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:N+p">n+p</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> does, why shouldn't <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Nts" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Nts">nts</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>? (and <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Dts" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Dts">dts</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>!) <a href="/wiki/User:Guarapiranga" title="User:Guarapiranga">Guarapiranga</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guarapiranga" title="User talk:Guarapiranga">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Guarapiranga-2019-12-10T13:46:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-12-08T21:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:46, 10 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guarapiranga-2019-12-10T13:46:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-12-08T21:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guarapiranga-2019-12-10T13:46:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-12-08T21:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gonnym-2019-12-10T14:07:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-10T13:46:00.000Z"></span>You can't really use the fact that template "x" does something, when you were the one changed it to do it just recently. I mainly oppose your proposal because it mixes two completely different functions. One is a simple behind the scene code that handles the sorting of a cel in a column. The other adds style to the cell. This could potentially lead to a lot of issues, major or small. Have you checked all transclusions to see how this template is used? Are you sure that this won't cause any issue? Also, you asked for it to be default right-aligned. Again, can you share your research on how many pages have set it to right-aligned compared to any other alignment? --<a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Gonnym-2019-12-10T14:07:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-10T13:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:07, 10 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gonnym-2019-12-10T14:07:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-10T13:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gonnym-2019-12-10T14:07:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-10T13:46:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guarapiranga-2019-12-10T14:15:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-12-10T14:07:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a>:</span> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk inline-quote-talk-italic">You can't really use the fact that template "x" does something, when you were the one changed it to do it just recently.</q> <br/></dd> <dd></dd> <dd>It wasn't; <a href="/wiki/User:Frietjes" title="User:Frietjes">Frietjes</a> built the option in from <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/714944736" title="Special:PermanentLink/714944736">day 1</a> (check the history before pointing fingers, perhaps). <a href="/wiki/User:Guarapiranga" title="User:Guarapiranga">Guarapiranga</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guarapiranga" title="User talk:Guarapiranga">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Guarapiranga-2019-12-10T14:15:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-12-10T14:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:15, 10 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guarapiranga-2019-12-10T14:15:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-12-10T14:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guarapiranga-2019-12-10T14:15:00.000Z-Gonnym-2019-12-10T14:07:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gonnym-2019-12-10T14:22:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-10T14:15:00.000Z"></span>My mistake, but unless you actually comment on something which is relevant and not nitpick a mistake I made, that doesn't change anything. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Gonnym-2019-12-10T14:22:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-10T14:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:22, 10 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gonnym-2019-12-10T14:22:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-10T14:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gonnym-2019-12-10T14:22:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-10T14:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-2019-12-10T22:46:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T19:33:00.000Z"></span>Gonnym has given excellent answers which indicate that the edit request should not proceed. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq" title="User talk:Johnuniq">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Johnuniq-2019-12-10T22:46:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T19:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:46, 10 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-2019-12-10T22:46:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T19:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-2019-12-10T22:46:00.000Z-Guarapiranga-2019-12-08T19:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="how_to_put_international_number_format_or_gaps_into_number?" data-mw-thread-id="h-how_to_put_international_number_format_or_gaps_into_number?-20230815011000"><span id="how_to_put_international_number_format_or_gaps_into_number.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-how_to_put_international_number_format_or_gaps_into_number?-20230815011000"></span>how to put international number format or gaps into number?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-how_to_put_international_number_format_or_gaps_into_number?-20230815011000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: how to put international number format or gaps into number?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThurnerRupert-20230815011000-how_to_put_international_number_format_or_gaps_into_number?"></span>tried to use format=gaps parameter to use gaps in the template, but it did not like it. when using international thousands separators like , or ٬ or arabic thousands separator ٬ the sorting does not work correctly. how would one do this? <a href="/wiki/User:ThurnerRupert" title="User:ThurnerRupert">ThurnerRupert</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ThurnerRupert" title="User talk:ThurnerRupert">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-ThurnerRupert-20230815011000-how_to_put_international_number_format_or_gaps_into_number?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:10, 15 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThurnerRupert-20230815011000-how_to_put_international_number_format_or_gaps_into_number?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThurnerRupert-20230815011000-how_to_put_international_number_format_or_gaps_into_number?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ntsh" data-mw-thread-id="h-ntsh-20240420002300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ntsh-20240420002300"></span>ntsh<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ntsh-20240420002300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: ntsh"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Walkersam-20240420002300-ntsh"></span>The docs for <a href="/wiki/Template:Number_table_sorting_hidden" title="Template:Number table sorting hidden">Template:Number table sorting hidden</a> have a deprecation notice directing editors to use this template instead, but I don't see anything in the docs that make clear how one would achieve the same result. It looks to me like <a href="/wiki/Help:Sortable_tables#Specifying_a_sort_key_for_a_cell" title="Help:Sortable tables">data-sort-value</a> might be the better substitute? <a href="/wiki/User:Walkersam" title="User:Walkersam">Walkersam</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Walkersam" title="User talk:Walkersam">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Walkersam-20240420002300-ntsh" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:23, 20 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Walkersam-20240420002300-ntsh"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Walkersam-20240420002300-ntsh"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnuniq-20240420010100-Walkersam-20240420002300"></span>I don't have an answer to your point about the deprecation notice, but both templates use data-sort-value. The following shows input to <a href="/wiki/Special:ExpandTemplates" title="Special:ExpandTemplates">Special:ExpandTemplates</a> and the result:<div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-wikitext mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="p">{{</span><span class="nt">nts</span><span class="p">|</span>123456789.00123<span class="p">}}</span> <span class="p">{{</span><span class="nt">ntsh</span><span class="p">|</span>123456789.00123<span class="p">}}</span> <span class="p"><</span><span class="nt">span</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">data-sort-value</span><span class="o">=</span><span class="s2">"7008123456789001230♠"</span><span class="p">></span>123,456,789.00123<span class="p"></</span><span class="nt">span</span><span class="p">></span> <span class="p"><</span><span class="nt">span</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">data-sort-value</span><span class="o">=</span><span class="s2">"7008123456789001230♠"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">style</span><span class="o">=</span><span class="s2">"display:none"</span><span class="p">></</span><span class="nt">span</span><span class="p">></span> </pre></div> <a href="/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq" title="User talk:Johnuniq">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-Johnuniq-20240420010100-Walkersam-20240420002300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:01, 20 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnuniq-20240420010100-Walkersam-20240420002300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnuniq-20240420010100-Walkersam-20240420002300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_function_request:_incorporate_{{PNsign}}" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_function_request:_incorporate_{{PNsign}}-20240921050800"><span id="New_function_request:_incorporate_.7B.7BPNsign.7D.7D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_function_request:_incorporate_{{PNsign}}-20240921050800"></span>New function request: incorporate <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:PNsign" title="Template:PNsign">PNsign</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_function_request:_incorporate_{{PNsign}}-20240921050800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: New function request: incorporate {{PNsign}}"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HTGS-20240921050800-New_function_request:_incorporate_{{PNsign}}"></span>Would it be possible to incorporate the functionality of <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:PNsign" title="Template:PNsign">PNsign</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> into this template, with an added parameter like <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|PN=</code> (or whatever, I’m not fussy what it would be called). PNsign takes in <code>-100</code> or <code>100</code> and outputs <span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-added, #006400);">−100</span> and <span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-added, #006400);">+100</span> (note hyphen on input, and <a href="/wiki/Minus_sign" class="mw-redirect" title="Minus sign">minus sign</a> out). That template is quite useful for certain types of tables, but doesn’t play nicely with commas or other outputs, and this template doesn’t preserve the plus sign as output (eg, an input of <code>10000</code> would ideally be formatted <span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-added, #006400);">+10,000</span>). I’m sure there’s probably a workaround I haven’t thought of, but it would still be nicer to incorporate into one template. <span style="font-family:Avenir, sans-serif">— <span style="border-radius:5px;padding:.1em .4em;background:#faeded"><a href="/wiki/User:HTGS" title="User:HTGS">HTGS</a></span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HTGS" title="User talk:HTGS">talk</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Number_table_sorting#c-HTGS-20240921050800-New_function_request:_incorporate_{{PNsign}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:08, 21 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HTGS-20240921050800-New_function_request:_incorporate_{{PNsign}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HTGS-20240921050800-New_function_request:_incorporate_{{PNsign}}"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&oldid=1246804580">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Number_table_sorting&oldid=1246804580</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 21 September 2024, at 05:08<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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