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<!doctype html> <html lang="en" xmlns:fb="http://ogp.me/ns/fb#"><head><title data-react-helmet="true">The 4 Types of People You Meet in Life & How to Handle The Way They Treat You - On Purpose with Jay Shetty | iHeart</title><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="on" http-equiv="x-dns-prefetch-control"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" charSet="utf-8"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1, maximum-scale=5.0, user-scalable=yes" name="viewport"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="yes" name="mobile-web-app-capable"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="#C6002B" name="theme-color"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="video" property="og:type"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="<p>Who in your life challenges you the most?</p> <p>Who sees more potential in you than you do?</p> <p>Today, Jay unpacks the powerful idea that everyone we meet serves a distinct purpose in our lives, acting as mirrors, windows, or doors. Inspired by a concept shared by TikTok creators Kim Peretz and Stale Hope, Jay talks about how different people reflect our flaws, show us glimpses of our potential, and open new pathways to growth.</p> <p>Jay explores the idea that some people mirror back our darkest and most uncomfortable traits, offering us valuable opportunities for self-awareness and growth. He emphasizes the challenge of accepting lessons from those we may not want to listen to, reminding us that the message is often more important than the messenger.</p> <p>He introduces the concept of doors and keys—those who open paths and unlock parts of ourselves in the most perfect way. He discusses the importance of gratitude and recognizing the people who have helped us move forward, even if we may have forgotten them.</p> <p>In this episode, you'll learn:</p> <p>How to accept difficult truths about yourself</p> <p>How to recognize the people who reflect your potential</p> <p>How to stay open to advice even when it’s hard to hear</p> <p>How to appreciate the role others play in your personal journey</p> <p>How to stay curious about what others see in you</p> <p>As you navigate your journey, remember that every person you encounter has something to teach you, whether they act as a mirror, window, door, or key. You're not alone on this path.</p> <p>With Love and Gratitude,</p> <p>Jay Shetty</p> <p>What We Discuss:</p> <p>00:00 Intro</p> <p>02:12 The Mirror, Window, and Door of Our Life</p> <p>03:12 People Mirror Back to Us Our Flaws</p> <p>11:14 People Are Like Windows, They See More Potential in You</p> <p>18:07 Some People Open a Door or Path for Us</p> <p>19:33 Some People Are Keys, They Unlock Parts for Us</p><p>See <a href='https://omnystudio.com/listener'>omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>" name="description"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="121897277851831" property="fb:app_id"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="55354819171" property="fb:pages"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="https://i.iheart.com/v3/url/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvZTczYzk5OGUtNmU2MC00MzJmLTg2MTAtYWUyMTAxNDBjNWIxLzMyZjE3NzllLWJjMDEtNGQzNi04OWU2LWFmY2IwMTA3MGM4Mi9lMGM4MzgyZi00OGQ0LTQyYmItODlkNS1hZmNiMDEwNzVjYjQvaW1hZ2UuanBnP3Q9MTcwNDI2MTY4NiZzaXplPUxhcmdl?ops=gravity(%22center%22),ratio(16,9),resize(1230,0)" name="thumbnail"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="https://i.iheart.com/v3/url/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvZTczYzk5OGUtNmU2MC00MzJmLTg2MTAtYWUyMTAxNDBjNWIxLzMyZjE3NzllLWJjMDEtNGQzNi04OWU2LWFmY2IwMTA3MGM4Mi9lMGM4MzgyZi00OGQ0LTQyYmItODlkNS1hZmNiMDEwNzVjYjQvaW1hZ2UuanBnP3Q9MTcwNDI2MTY4NiZzaXplPUxhcmdl" name="twitter:image"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="https://i.iheart.com/v3/url/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvZTczYzk5OGUtNmU2MC00MzJmLTg2MTAtYWUyMTAxNDBjNWIxLzMyZjE3NzllLWJjMDEtNGQzNi04OWU2LWFmY2IwMTA3MGM4Mi9lMGM4MzgyZi00OGQ0LTQyYmItODlkNS1hZmNiMDEwNzVjYjQvaW1hZ2UuanBnP3Q9MTcwNDI2MTY4NiZzaXplPUxhcmdl?ops=contain(1200,630)" property="og:image"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="<p>Who in your life challenges you the most?</p> <p>Who sees more potential in you than you do?</p> <p>Today, Jay unpacks the powerful idea that everyone we meet serves a distinct purpose in our lives, acting as mirrors, windows, or doors. Inspired by a concept shared by TikTok creators Kim Peretz and Stale Hope, Jay talks about how different people reflect our flaws, show us glimpses of our potential, and open new pathways to growth.</p> <p>Jay explores the idea that some people mirror back our darkest and most uncomfortable traits, offering us valuable opportunities for self-awareness and growth. He emphasizes the challenge of accepting lessons from those we may not want to listen to, reminding us that the message is often more important than the messenger.</p> <p>He introduces the concept of doors and keys—those who open paths and unlock parts of ourselves in the most perfect way. He discusses the importance of gratitude and recognizing the people who have helped us move forward, even if we may have forgotten them.</p> <p>In this episode, you'll learn:</p> <p>How to accept difficult truths about yourself</p> <p>How to recognize the people who reflect your potential</p> <p>How to stay open to advice even when it’s hard to hear</p> <p>How to appreciate the role others play in your personal journey</p> <p>How to stay curious about what others see in you</p> <p>As you navigate your journey, remember that every person you encounter has something to teach you, whether they act as a mirror, window, door, or key. You're not alone on this path.</p> <p>With Love and Gratitude,</p> <p>Jay Shetty</p> <p>What We Discuss:</p> <p>00:00 Intro</p> <p>02:12 The Mirror, Window, and Door of Our Life</p> <p>03:12 People Mirror Back to Us Our Flaws</p> <p>11:14 People Are Like Windows, They See More Potential in You</p> <p>18:07 Some People Open a Door or Path for Us</p> <p>19:33 Some People Are Keys, They Unlock Parts for Us</p><p>See <a href='https://omnystudio.com/listener'>omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>" itemProp="description"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="<p>Who in your life challenges you the most?</p> <p>Who sees more potential in you than you do?</p> <p>Today, Jay unpacks the powerful idea that everyone we meet serves a distinct purpose in our lives, acting as mirrors, windows, or doors. Inspired by a concept shared by TikTok creators Kim Peretz and Stale Hope, Jay talks about how different people reflect our flaws, show us glimpses of our potential, and open new pathways to growth.</p> <p>Jay explores the idea that some people mirror back our darkest and most uncomfortable traits, offering us valuable opportunities for self-awareness and growth. He emphasizes the challenge of accepting lessons from those we may not want to listen to, reminding us that the message is often more important than the messenger.</p> <p>He introduces the concept of doors and keys—those who open paths and unlock parts of ourselves in the most perfect way. He discusses the importance of gratitude and recognizing the people who have helped us move forward, even if we may have forgotten them.</p> <p>In this episode, you'll learn:</p> <p>How to accept difficult truths about yourself</p> <p>How to recognize the people who reflect your potential</p> <p>How to stay open to advice even when it’s hard to hear</p> <p>How to appreciate the role others play in your personal journey</p> <p>How to stay curious about what others see in you</p> <p>As you navigate your journey, remember that every person you encounter has something to teach you, whether they act as a mirror, window, door, or key. You're not alone on this path.</p> <p>With Love and Gratitude,</p> <p>Jay Shetty</p> <p>What We Discuss:</p> <p>00:00 Intro</p> <p>02:12 The Mirror, Window, and Door of Our Life</p> <p>03:12 People Mirror Back to Us Our Flaws</p> <p>11:14 People Are Like Windows, They See More Potential in You</p> <p>18:07 Some People Open a Door or Path for Us</p> <p>19:33 Some People Are Keys, They Unlock Parts for Us</p><p>See <a href='https://omnystudio.com/listener'>omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>" property="og:description"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="<p>Who in your life challenges you the most?</p> <p>Who sees more potential in you than you do?</p> <p>Today, Jay unpacks the powerful idea that everyone we meet serves a distinct purpose in our lives, acting as mirrors, windows, or doors. Inspired by a concept shared by TikTok creators Kim Peretz and Stale Hope, Jay talks about how different people reflect our flaws, show us glimpses of our potential, and open new pathways to growth.</p> <p>Jay explores the idea that some people mirror back our darkest and most uncomfortable traits, offering us valuable opportunities for self-awareness and growth. He emphasizes the challenge of accepting lessons from those we may not want to listen to, reminding us that the message is often more important than the messenger.</p> <p>He introduces the concept of doors and keys—those who open paths and unlock parts of ourselves in the most perfect way. He discusses the importance of gratitude and recognizing the people who have helped us move forward, even if we may have forgotten them.</p> <p>In this episode, you'll learn:</p> <p>How to accept difficult truths about yourself</p> <p>How to recognize the people who reflect your potential</p> <p>How to stay open to advice even when it’s hard to hear</p> <p>How to appreciate the role others play in your personal journey</p> <p>How to stay curious about what others see in you</p> <p>As you navigate your journey, remember that every person you encounter has something to teach you, whether they act as a mirror, window, door, or key. You're not alone on this path.</p> <p>With Love and Gratitude,</p> <p>Jay Shetty</p> <p>What We Discuss:</p> <p>00:00 Intro</p> <p>02:12 The Mirror, Window, and Door of Our Life</p> <p>03:12 People Mirror Back to Us Our Flaws</p> <p>11:14 People Are Like Windows, They See More Potential in You</p> <p>18:07 Some People Open a Door or Path for Us</p> <p>19:33 Some People Are Keys, They Unlock Parts for Us</p><p>See <a href='https://omnystudio.com/listener'>omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>" name="twitter:description"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="iHeart" property="og:site_name"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="iHeart" name="twitter:app:name:iphone"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="iHeart" name="twitter:app:name:ipad"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="iHeart" name="twitter:app:name:googleplay"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="iHeart" name="al:android:app_name"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="iHeart" 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Inspired by a concept shared by TikTok creators Kim Peretz and Stale Hope, Jay talks about how different people reflect our flaws, show us glimpses of our potential, and open new pathways to growth.</p> <p>Jay explores the idea that some people mirror back our darkest and most uncomfortable traits, offering us valuable opportunities for self-awareness and growth. He emphasizes the challenge of accepting lessons from those we may not want to listen to, reminding us that the message is often more important than the messenger.</p> <p>He introduces the concept of doors and keys—those who open paths and unlock parts of ourselves in the most perfect way. 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I mean, we all want to be more</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>present and self aware, more patient, less judgmental. We discuss</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>all these themes on the podcast, but it's hard to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>actually be mindful in your day to day life. That's</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>where Calm comes in. I've been working with Calm for</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a few years now with the goal of making mindfulness</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(00:22)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>fun and easy. Calm has all sorts of content to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>help you build positive habits, shift yourself, talk, reframe your</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>negative thoughts, and generally feel better in your daily life.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>So many incredible options from the most knowledgeable experts in</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the world, along with renowned meditation teachers. You can also</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>check out my seven minute daily series to help you</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(00:43)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>live more mindfully each and every day. Right now, listeners</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of On Purpose get forty percent off a subscription to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Calmpremium at calm dot com Forward slash j that's Calm</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>dot com forward slash jay for forty percent off. Calm</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>your mind, Change your life. Imagine the strength and the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>resilience you'll have when you're able to become better even</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(01:06)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>from someone who's bitter. When you're able to grow even</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>when someone's trying to guilt you. When you're able to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>find a shift even when someone's trying to shame you,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Imagine how powerful you become when you can transform turn</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>anything into gold. That's what the real mistouch is. The</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>number one health and wellness podcast, Jay Sheety Jay Shedy</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(01:29)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Only shet Hey, everyone, Welcome back to on Purpose. I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>am so excited and grateful to be here with you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>right now. Thank you so much for making the time</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to tune in to become happier, healthier, and more healed.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I love having these check ins with you, whether you're</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(01:50)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>listening every day, multiple times per day, every week, it</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>means the world to me. And I love the fact</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that so many of you come up to me and</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>share your stories, and so many of you share on</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Instagram and TikTok. It's unbelievable, and I deeply appreciate those</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of you who are leaving reviews. It makes a huge</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>difference to podcasters, So thank you, so so much. Now.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(02:12)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Today's episode is inspired by something I saw posted from</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a creator called Kim Parrots on TikTok, and she said</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>she was trying to find the original creator who said it,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>who I believe was stere l. Hope. Now, what they</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>were sharing was this insight and I loved it Ever</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(02:34)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>since I heard Kim say it, I absolutely loved it.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>And it was this idea that everyone you meet in</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>your life is either a mirror, a window, or a door.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>And I really love this concept. Make sure you go</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>follow Sterel Hope and Kim Parrots on TikTok, who've really</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>helped popularize and share this concept because they're making other</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(02:57)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>amazing content as well. But today I wanted to to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>share my own reflections on this idea. I wanted to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>share some of my own viewpoints, some of my own beliefs,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and maybe some of my own directives of how to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>think about this. Clearly, the first one is a lot</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of the people we meet in our life are like</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a mirror. Now what does that mean. It means they</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(03:20)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>mirror back to us our flaws. They mirror back to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>us our mistakes, They mirror back to us our triggers.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>How many terms have you met someone where they mirror</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>your dark side? When you see them, they show you</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(03:40)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>some of the challenges you're dealing with. They expose you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to some of the flaws, some of the intricatencies, the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>nuances of some of the difficulties you might be going through.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>When you look at them, you're reminded of what you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>still need to improve. So sometimes these people can come</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(04:02)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>informs that are overtly helpful. And sometimes these people come</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>in the form of someone that we don't like at all.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>When someone shows us parts of ourself that we're not</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>comfortable with, we struggle to be comfortable with them. When</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>someone truly acts like a mirror with us, it can</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(04:25)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>be one of the most difficult things to deal with</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>because we don't want to see that about ourselves. So</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>often we discard, we disregard, we distance ourselves from these people.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Whether they want to help us or not is a</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>completely different story. But what I do know is this,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the information they're giving us, the signals they're giving us,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(04:50)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the insights they're giving us are helpful. Sometimes the most</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>helpful people in your life will feel like they're unhelpful.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Sometimes the most powerful, profound messages you'll receive will be</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>from the most difficult messages. Sometimes what you need to</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(05:12)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>hear will come from someone you don't want to listen to.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Let me say that again. Sometimes what you need to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>hear will come from someone you don't want to listen to.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Sometimes you'll have to face something from someone that you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>don't want to see, and sometimes you'll have to understand</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(05:38)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>something from someone who's misunderstood you. A lot of the times,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the lessons we need to learn, the things we need</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to change, the shifts we need to make, come from</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>people that we don't want to hear about it from.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>But here's the thing. The message is more important than</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(05:59)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the messenger. What we need to learn is more important</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>than the person who brings the lesson. Often what we</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>do is we don't get the message because we don't</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>like the messenger. Often what happens is we don't grow</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>because we don't like the person who's inviting that growth.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(06:20)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>What we end up doing is postponing our own potential.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>What we end up doing is pushing back our own progress.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>What we end up doing is pulling away from our</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>own purpose. Take a moment to just reflect who in</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>your life has been a mirror positively in the sense</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(06:41)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that they were helpful, they were tactful, they were not critical.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>And who has been a mirror in your life that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>was maybe more uncomfortable. They could have said it nicer,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>they could have been better themselves. They could have held</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>themselves to a higher more and value themselves. But what</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(07:02)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>could you even learn from them? I know this is hard,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I know it's difficult, and I know it's complex because</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>once we've labeled someone as negative, we usually think that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>anything that comes from them is the same. But I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>remember in the monastery, we were always taught that we</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(07:23)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>should be able to find in a toxic place. That</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>doesn't mean we see them as positive. It means that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>we believe that we can learn something from anyone. We</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>can gain something from anyone. But it's hardest and harshest</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>when the messenger isn't easy, and isn't in flow, and</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(07:44)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>isn't someone that we can easily digest something from. I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>get it. I've been there. I know what that feels like.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I would have learned so many lessons earlier had I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>not judged the teacher. And now I've started to realize</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that the lesson is the most important thing the universe. God,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the energy is trying to share something with me, and</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(08:06)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I can ignore it because I don't like the messenger,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>but then there'll just be another messenger who has to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>find their way through it. To me, it's almost like</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>an alarm tne that you don't like the sound of,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>it's still trying to wake you up. Right, you may</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>not like it. You can change it if you don't</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>like it, but the point is you still have to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>wake up. And often in our lives we're constantly getting</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(08:27)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>wake up calls, but because they come from people we</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>don't like, or we don't like the sound of them,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>or we don't like how they carry themselves, we press snooze,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>we push it off. So want us to really reflect</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>on that who in your life has been a mirror</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that's triggered you, that you know was exposing you to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a higher truth, that was pushing you to a higher standard.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(08:51)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>But because they didn't do it in a way that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you didn't like, you ignored them, You ignored the message,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>You didn't take it seriously and take a moment to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>ask yourself what were you being called to do? What</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>were you being invited for? How can you disconnect the</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(09:13)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>message from the messenger and digest the message even if</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the messenger doesn't know how to deliver it. We'll give</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>an example. Let's say you order something off of Uber Eats,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>door Dash, whatever it may be, and the delivery person</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>didn't deliver it perfectly, they left it a few doors</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>down from yours, or maybe they delivered it but it</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(09:36)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>was slightly squashed. You're still gonna eat it because you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>want the nourishment. Now, you could sit there and be like, Oh,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I wish they'd delivered it properly, and I didn't want</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>my burger to be smashed. Of course, I don't want</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to smash burger either, But you get the point. Sometimes</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>we're complaining about the delivery that we don't get the nourishment.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>If we can challenge ourselves to learn, even from the</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(09:58)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>most unlikely, unwor oarrented places, imagine that kind of mindset</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that you have. Imagine the strength and the resilience you'll</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>have when you're able to become better even from someone</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>who's bitter, When you're able to grow even when someone's</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>trying to guilt you, when you're able to find a shift,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>even when someone's trying to shame you. Imagine how powerful</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(10:20)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you become when you can transform turn anything into gold.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>That's what the real mind is. Touches the ability to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>turn criticism into creativity, the ability to turn feedback into</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>future motion, the ability to turn mistakes into megas success.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(10:44)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>It's a powerful trait, one that's extremely hard to follow,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>one that's extremely hard to do because we think the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>message is disqualified if the messenger is unqualified. But I'm</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>here to tell you this, I've learned the hard way.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Take the message. Take it even if you don't like</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(11:05)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the messenger, reflect on it, introspect on it, disconnect it</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>from the messenger so that you can truly digest it.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>The next thing that these two wonderful creatives shared and</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>popularized was this idea that we also meet people in</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>our life who are like a window, and they talked</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>about the window is someone who sees more for you,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(11:29)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>who sees more for you, who sees more potential in you,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>who shows you a portal into a new space, a</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>new world. I'm sure you've met people that showed you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>your potential when you can't even realize it. When you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>met people who showed you a vision that you'd never</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(11:49)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>even considered before. Someone who opened the blinds and opened</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the window and let the fresh air and the sunlight</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>in when you were in the darkness. What's interesting about</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>this type of person is that often when they first</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>show us the light We're almost like vampires, like we</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>like close our eyes and we're like, oh, I don't</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>want to see this. I don't want to This literally</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>happened to me the other day. Raley woke me up</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(12:11)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to go to my workout, and my first reaction was like,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>why did you wake me up? But I didn't want</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to wake up. I'm so tired. You shouldn't let me sleep,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>And she's like, how am I meant to know? And</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>then afterwards I was like, I'm really sorry, I'm really</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>happy you woke me up. I was really glad I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>got to work out in Often, people who show us</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the window, we may even often show them the door.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>When they're seeing more for us. We may even discount</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(12:33)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that and say, you don't love me for who I am.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>You don't see what I do have. And that may</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>be true. It's not that you're wrong. They may be condescending.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>It may not come in a great tone either, but</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>chances are it's because they believe in you in some way.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>That doesn't mean you have to believe in their dream</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>for you, doesn't mean you have to chase their dream</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(12:54)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>for you, but maybe it will give you a glimpse</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>into what could be possible for you. People who create</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>wider possibilities in your life and possible options by showing</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you windows and glimpses can be some of the most</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>profound people in your life. I remember I used to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>have a mentor. He used to always say to me, Jay,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(13:15)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>will find your potential when you go through pain. He</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>was opening a window for me, a vision, and I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>used to think to him and say to him, Hey, like,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>come on, I know my potential. And then when I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>get through went through pain, I was reminded of that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>window he'd open me expose me to. He would also</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>say to me, Jay, you're an entrepreneur, and I'd say, no, no, no,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(13:37)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I'm not an entrepreneur. He'd say, no, you are. You're</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a leader, and I'd say, no, no, I'm not a leader.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>How many times have you said no to someone when</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>they have a vision for you. I used to also</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>think he had no awareness of who I actually was.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>That I've grown and expanded, I've recognized that he was</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>so right about so many things. And that's the interesting</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>thing about the windows that come into your life. Hopefully</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(14:00)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>they stay long enough that you can thank them, but</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a lot of them leave before you notice their impact.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>That's true of the first one too. Some mirrors come</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>into our life, and they may not be permanent mirrors.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>They were there for a moment, they were there for</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a fleeting experience, and of course we may move on</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>from some mirrors. We don't have to hold on to</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(14:22)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a mirror. If it's negative for us, if it's unhealthy</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>for us, if someone is raising things for us that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>are so triggering and so hurtful, sometimes we want to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>break the mirror, and we may drop it, we may</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>run away from it, and then in hindsight, with time</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>gone past, we can begin to value it. Similarly we</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>do that with windows. In the moment, we may think, well,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(14:45)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you don't know me, you don't understand me, you don't</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>recognize me. But actually, in the long term we think, well,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I'm so glad they showed me that window. One thing</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I've begun to realize is just because I don't see</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>what someone else sees, it doesn't mean I have to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>walk away. When someone sees what I don't see, the</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(15:09)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>first thing I do is I ask them, how do</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you see that? Where do you see that? Why do</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you see that? It's a point of being curious. I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>think we have a natural reaction when something doesn't perfectly match.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>We almost disregard it rather than being curious about it.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>How can we be curious about it? How can it</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(15:29)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>be truth to it? How can there be value to it?</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>How can there be some basis for it? And we</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>can also ask some of our doubts about why that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>doesn't work for us, why it doesn't make sense, why</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>we can't make sense of it, why it doesn't feel</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>right right now. And that's the key. Just because it</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(15:50)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>doesn't feel right right now doesn't mean it can't be</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>right one day. Just because something feels wrong right now</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>doesn't mean it can't be right one day. And something</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that can feel perfectly right right now may not feel</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>right one day. So don't focus so much on whether</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(16:11)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>something's right or wrong. Allow it to be what it is,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>which is that it's okay right now, it makes sense</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>right now. I think what we often do is we</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>want something that makes sense right now to make sense forever.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>We want something that feels right now to feel right forever.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(16:34)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>And then what happens is when we discover that it's</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>no longer what we want, we then look back and think, oh,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I wasted a lot of time. Oh I wish I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>knew this before. And what we do is we discount</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and invalidate the last few years. You didn't get something wrong.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>You did the best with what you knew then, and</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(16:55)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>guess what, You'll make more mistakes because you're only doing</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the best with what you need now. And that's okay,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>That's totally okay. Stop beating yourself up for not learning</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the lesson earlier. Stop ridiculing yourself and criticizing yourself for</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>not knowing things before. Stop hating on the past version</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(17:19)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of yourself. Because it got you here to the present.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>It got you here right now, to this answer, this solution,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>this resolution, this point of change, this pivot in your life.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>You got here because of that mindset. It protected you,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>it provided for you, and now it's your pivot. Often</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>what protects you one day may harm you, and your</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(17:44)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>job is only to realize the day that it turns</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>into harm, that you let it go. Your job is</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>not to look back and make the past feel like</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a waste of time or irrelevant or insignificant. So when</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you meet someone who shows you a window, be curious.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>When you meet someone who shares a vision with you,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>be curious. You don't have to follow it, you don't</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(18:04)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>have to pursue it, but be open to it. Aspect</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of the types of people we meet in our life,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>this person said was a door. These are the people</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that open doors for us. They are a door for us,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>They're a path for us. And I like to edit</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>this one. I feel like it's someone who opens doors</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>for you. These are usually what I call the in</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(18:25)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>between us. I promise you that you have a friend today.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>You may have a job you love, you have something</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>in your life that's meaningful, and you forgot the person</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>who introduced you to it. Whether it's a book, whether</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>it's an album, whether it's a person, whether it was</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a job, whether it was a community center or a sport,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(18:46)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>whatever it may be, there's someone in your life who</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>introduced you to something amazing. They open the door to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>something and you've forgotten who they are and that person</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>who opened the door for you. It's kind of like</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>if someone opens the door for you at a mall,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you walk through it. You may never know who they are,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>You may never even ask who they are. You may</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>smile and say thanks. Imagine the people that are doing</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(19:09)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that for you in life. There are people literally opening</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>doors for you in life that we forget, we lead behind,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>we move on from because we moved forward. Take a</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>moment to send that person a message, Take a moment</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to thank that person, Take a moment to acknowledge that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>person today. Maybe send them a message, send them a note,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(19:30)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>because that person's amazing. They open a door for you.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I wanted to add one more to this. I think</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>we also meet people who are like keys, people who</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>unlock parts of us in the most beautiful, gentlest of ways,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and the way that fits perfectly right with the window.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>It was someone showing us a window. With the door,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(19:51)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>it's someone opening the door. It's with the mirror. It</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>could be harsh, it could be easy, but with the key,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>everything makes sense. Everything unlocks, everything's the perfect fit. And</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>sometimes you have to try a lot of keys to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>find the one right. Imagine you've got all these keys</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>around your you know, a big keychain, and you're testing</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(20:13)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>each key to see if it works, and one fits</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>kind of half and one gets stuck, and one doesn't</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>quite turn the lock. It takes a lot of keys</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to find the one key that unlocks it all. And</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that's what life can be sometimes, like especially romantically, where</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>romantically we've had a lot of mirrors, people who showed</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>us the worst parts of ourselves, the best parts of ourselves,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(20:35)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and maybe even showed us broken mirrors. I think that's</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a really interesting part of it, where really, in relationships,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>what we're doing is we're both holding up a broken</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>mirror and we're reflecting broken parts of ourselves and the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>other person to each other with the window. In a</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>romantic relationship, someone shows it, but we may not be</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>ready yet, we may still be in bed going I</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(20:56)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>don't want to see anything right now, And often we</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>live to regret that. We end up thinking, oh, well,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I wish that person who saw my potential could still</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>be here right now. But guess what that was. Their role,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>their role in your life was just to move you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>in that direction and you weren't ready for them yet,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and that's okay. And then we'll meet people who open doors,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and maybe they are the people we forget, they're the</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(21:17)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>people we leave behind. Let's not do that. Let's remember them,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>let's thank them, let's appreciate them, and finally they'll be</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the key. The rarest of them all, people that hard</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to find, people that other people try to pretend to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>be false keys until we find the right one. What</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>does this mean for us? It means that when you</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(21:39)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>meet someone, reflect from what role they played in your life,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>not what they did to you, maybe not even what</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>they said to you. What role did they play and</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>how did you leave them a better person. People may</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>not leave you better off, but you can leave them</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>better off for yourself. People may not leave you happy,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(22:00)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>but you can heal to happiness yourself. People may not</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>easily help you become better, but you can help yourself</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>not become bitter. I wish you all the best in</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>your relationships. I wish you all the best in all</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of your endeavors. Remember that I'm forever in your corner</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and I'm always rooting for you. And again, don't forget</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(22:23)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to follow kim Perrot's and stery Our Hope on TikTok.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Amazing creatives putting out great content that I think you'll love,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and I'm so glad to both of them for introducing</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>me to this idea that hopefully I've remixed today added</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>some of my own thoughts and reflections in a way</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that is helpful to all of you. Thank you, if</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(22:46)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you love this episode, you'll enjoy my interview with doctor</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Daniel Ahman on how to change your life by changing</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>your brain. If we want a healthy mind, it actually</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>starts with a healthy brain. I've had the blessing or</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the curse to scan over a thousand convicted felons and</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(23:06)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>over a hundred murderers, and their brains are very damaged.</span>"}},"hosts":{"/66fc92c504680cac6e8f3dcc":{"title":"Jay Shetty","image":"https://i.iheart.com/v3/re/new_assets/66fc92d204680cac6e8f3dd8","description":"Jay Shetty is a global bestselling author, host of the #1 Health & Wellness podcast “On Purpose,”Chief Purpose Officer of Calm, Co-founder of Joyo Tea, former monk and purpose coach. In 2017, Forbes named him to the 30 Under 30 List for being a game changer in media. People Magazine has named him “one to watch.” In 2019, AdWeek dubbed him a Young Influentials cover star, describing him as “an emanation of spiritual force.” In 2018 and 2019, the Streamy’s named him the Best Health & Wellness Creator of the Year. His videos have been viewed more than 10 billion times and he is followed by over 50 million people across social media. In 2019, Jay created “On Purpose”, which is now the world’s #1 Health & Wellness podcast and since then has been consistently in Spotify’s Top 10 Podcasts as well as named Apple’s Top 20 Podcasts of the Year. Guests have included notable figures, such as Oprah, Selena Gomez, Kendall Jenner, Kevin Hart, Will Smith, Alicia Keys, Lewis Hamilton, Jenifer Lopez, Kobe Bryant, among others. In 2020, Jay published his first book, “Think Like A Monk: Train Your Mind for Peace and Purpose Everyday.” The book debuted at #1 on the New York Times, #1 on the Sunday Times and was deemed “un-put-down-able” by Amazon, where it held the #1 spot worldwide. Following the immense success and millions of copies sold of “Think Like a Monk,” Jay released his second book, “8 Rules of Love: How to Find It, Keep It, and Let It Go,” in 2023, becoming Jay’s second instant New York Times and International bestselling book. Jay is currently on his first ever worldwide tour, “Jay Shetty: Love Rules,” based on the concepts of 8 Rules of Love: in an engaging, interactive manner. Learn more about Jay’s latest book at 8RulesofLove.com, and his tour at JayShettyTour.com. Most recently, Jay alongside his partners, unveiled a full-service purpose-driven talent agency, House of 1212, representing the world’s top creators, thought leaders and innovators that are impacting positive change with the mission is to help creators unleash their inner greatness. 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unpacks the powerful idea that everyone we meet serves a distinct purpose in our lives, acting as mirrors, windows, or doors. Inspired by a concept shared by TikTok creators Kim Peretz and Stale Hope, Jay talks about how different people reflect our flaws, show us glimpses of our potential, and open new pathways to growth.</p> <p>Jay explores the idea that some people mirror back our darkest and most uncomfortable traits, offering us valuable opportunities for self-awareness and growth. He emphasizes the challenge of accepting lessons from those we may not want to listen to, reminding us that the message is often more important than the messenger.</p> <p>He introduces the concept of doors and keys—those who open paths and unlock parts of ourselves in the most perfect way. He discusses the importance of gratitude and recognizing the people who have helped us move forward, even if we may have forgotten them.</p> <p>In this episode, you'll learn:</p> <p>How to accept difficult truths about yourself</p> <p>How to recognize the people who reflect your potential</p> <p>How to stay open to advice even when it’s hard to hear</p> <p>How to appreciate the role others play in your personal journey</p> <p>How to stay curious about what others see in you</p> <p>As you navigate your journey, remember that every person you encounter has something to teach you, whether they act as a mirror, window, door, or key. You're not alone on this path.</p> <p>With Love and Gratitude,</p> <p>Jay Shetty</p> <p>What We Discuss:</p> <p>00:00 Intro</p> <p>02:12 The Mirror, Window, and Door of Our Life</p> <p>03:12 People Mirror Back to Us Our Flaws</p> <p>11:14 People Are Like Windows, They See More Potential in You</p> <p>18:07 Some People Open a Door or Path for Us</p> <p>19:33 Some People Are Keys, They Unlock Parts for Us</p><p>See <a target="_blank" href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p></div></div><style data-emotion="css j9qmi7">.css-j9qmi7{display:-webkit-box;display:-webkit-flex;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-webkit-flex-direction:row;-ms-flex-direction:row;flex-direction:row;font-weight:700;margin-bottom:1rem;margin-top:2.8rem;width:100%;-webkit-box-pack:start;-ms-flex-pack:start;-webkit-justify-content:start;justify-content:start;padding-left:5rem;}@media only screen and (max-width: 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Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.</div></div><style data-emotion="css 1dcehgl">.css-1dcehgl{-webkit-align-items:center;-webkit-box-align:center;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;background-color:#FFFFFF;border-radius:0.3rem;display:block;height:35rem;overflow-wrap:anywhere;overflow-y:auto;padding:1.8rem;white-space:pre-line;width:100%;}.css-1dcehgl .podcast-transcription-speaker{font-weight:bold;}</style><div class="css-1dcehgl e1kn80fp0"><span class=podcast-transcription-speaker>Speaker 1</span> <span class=podcast-transcription-time>(00:01)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>There's a lot of talk about mindfulness these days, which</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>is fantastic. I mean, we all want to be more</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>present and self aware, more patient, less judgmental. We discuss</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>all these themes on the podcast, but it's hard to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>actually be mindful in your day to day life. That's</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>where Calm comes in. I've been working with Calm for</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a few years now with the goal of making mindfulness</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(00:22)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>fun and easy. Calm has all sorts of content to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>help you build positive habits, shift yourself, talk, reframe your</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>negative thoughts, and generally feel better in your daily life.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>So many incredible options from the most knowledgeable experts in</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the world, along with renowned meditation teachers. You can also</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>check out my seven minute daily series to help you</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(00:43)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>live more mindfully each and every day. Right now, listeners</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of On Purpose get forty percent off a subscription to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Calmpremium at calm dot com Forward slash j that's Calm</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>dot com forward slash jay for forty percent off. Calm</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>your mind, Change your life. Imagine the strength and the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>resilience you'll have when you're able to become better even</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(01:06)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>from someone who's bitter. When you're able to grow even</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>when someone's trying to guilt you. When you're able to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>find a shift even when someone's trying to shame you,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Imagine how powerful you become when you can transform turn</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>anything into gold. That's what the real mistouch is. The</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>number one health and wellness podcast, Jay Sheety Jay Shedy</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(01:29)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Only shet Hey, everyone, Welcome back to on Purpose. I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>am so excited and grateful to be here with you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>right now. Thank you so much for making the time</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to tune in to become happier, healthier, and more healed.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I love having these check ins with you, whether you're</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(01:50)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>listening every day, multiple times per day, every week, it</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>means the world to me. And I love the fact</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that so many of you come up to me and</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>share your stories, and so many of you share on</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Instagram and TikTok. It's unbelievable, and I deeply appreciate those</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of you who are leaving reviews. It makes a huge</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>difference to podcasters, So thank you, so so much. Now.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(02:12)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Today's episode is inspired by something I saw posted from</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a creator called Kim Parrots on TikTok, and she said</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>she was trying to find the original creator who said it,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>who I believe was stere l. Hope. Now, what they</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>were sharing was this insight and I loved it Ever</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(02:34)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>since I heard Kim say it, I absolutely loved it.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>And it was this idea that everyone you meet in</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>your life is either a mirror, a window, or a door.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>And I really love this concept. Make sure you go</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>follow Sterel Hope and Kim Parrots on TikTok, who've really</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>helped popularize and share this concept because they're making other</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(02:57)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>amazing content as well. But today I wanted to to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>share my own reflections on this idea. I wanted to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>share some of my own viewpoints, some of my own beliefs,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and maybe some of my own directives of how to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>think about this. Clearly, the first one is a lot</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of the people we meet in our life are like</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a mirror. Now what does that mean. It means they</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(03:20)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>mirror back to us our flaws. They mirror back to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>us our mistakes, They mirror back to us our triggers.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>How many terms have you met someone where they mirror</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>your dark side? When you see them, they show you</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(03:40)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>some of the challenges you're dealing with. They expose you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to some of the flaws, some of the intricatencies, the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>nuances of some of the difficulties you might be going through.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>When you look at them, you're reminded of what you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>still need to improve. So sometimes these people can come</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(04:02)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>informs that are overtly helpful. And sometimes these people come</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>in the form of someone that we don't like at all.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>When someone shows us parts of ourself that we're not</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>comfortable with, we struggle to be comfortable with them. When</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>someone truly acts like a mirror with us, it can</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(04:25)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>be one of the most difficult things to deal with</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>because we don't want to see that about ourselves. So</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>often we discard, we disregard, we distance ourselves from these people.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Whether they want to help us or not is a</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>completely different story. But what I do know is this,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the information they're giving us, the signals they're giving us,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(04:50)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the insights they're giving us are helpful. Sometimes the most</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>helpful people in your life will feel like they're unhelpful.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Sometimes the most powerful, profound messages you'll receive will be</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>from the most difficult messages. Sometimes what you need to</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(05:12)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>hear will come from someone you don't want to listen to.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Let me say that again. Sometimes what you need to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>hear will come from someone you don't want to listen to.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Sometimes you'll have to face something from someone that you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>don't want to see, and sometimes you'll have to understand</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(05:38)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>something from someone who's misunderstood you. A lot of the times,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the lessons we need to learn, the things we need</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to change, the shifts we need to make, come from</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>people that we don't want to hear about it from.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>But here's the thing. The message is more important than</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(05:59)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the messenger. What we need to learn is more important</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>than the person who brings the lesson. Often what we</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>do is we don't get the message because we don't</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>like the messenger. Often what happens is we don't grow</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>because we don't like the person who's inviting that growth.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(06:20)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>What we end up doing is postponing our own potential.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>What we end up doing is pushing back our own progress.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>What we end up doing is pulling away from our</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>own purpose. Take a moment to just reflect who in</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>your life has been a mirror positively in the sense</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(06:41)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that they were helpful, they were tactful, they were not critical.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>And who has been a mirror in your life that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>was maybe more uncomfortable. They could have said it nicer,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>they could have been better themselves. They could have held</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>themselves to a higher more and value themselves. But what</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(07:02)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>could you even learn from them? I know this is hard,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I know it's difficult, and I know it's complex because</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>once we've labeled someone as negative, we usually think that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>anything that comes from them is the same. But I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>remember in the monastery, we were always taught that we</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(07:23)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>should be able to find in a toxic place. That</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>doesn't mean we see them as positive. It means that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>we believe that we can learn something from anyone. We</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>can gain something from anyone. But it's hardest and harshest</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>when the messenger isn't easy, and isn't in flow, and</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(07:44)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>isn't someone that we can easily digest something from. I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>get it. I've been there. I know what that feels like.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I would have learned so many lessons earlier had I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>not judged the teacher. And now I've started to realize</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that the lesson is the most important thing the universe. God,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the energy is trying to share something with me, and</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(08:06)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I can ignore it because I don't like the messenger,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>but then there'll just be another messenger who has to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>find their way through it. To me, it's almost like</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>an alarm tne that you don't like the sound of,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>it's still trying to wake you up. Right, you may</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>not like it. You can change it if you don't</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>like it, but the point is you still have to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>wake up. And often in our lives we're constantly getting</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(08:27)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>wake up calls, but because they come from people we</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>don't like, or we don't like the sound of them,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>or we don't like how they carry themselves, we press snooze,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>we push it off. So want us to really reflect</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>on that who in your life has been a mirror</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that's triggered you, that you know was exposing you to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a higher truth, that was pushing you to a higher standard.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(08:51)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>But because they didn't do it in a way that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you didn't like, you ignored them, You ignored the message,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>You didn't take it seriously and take a moment to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>ask yourself what were you being called to do? What</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>were you being invited for? How can you disconnect the</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(09:13)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>message from the messenger and digest the message even if</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the messenger doesn't know how to deliver it. We'll give</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>an example. Let's say you order something off of Uber Eats,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>door Dash, whatever it may be, and the delivery person</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>didn't deliver it perfectly, they left it a few doors</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>down from yours, or maybe they delivered it but it</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(09:36)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>was slightly squashed. You're still gonna eat it because you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>want the nourishment. Now, you could sit there and be like, Oh,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I wish they'd delivered it properly, and I didn't want</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>my burger to be smashed. Of course, I don't want</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to smash burger either, But you get the point. Sometimes</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>we're complaining about the delivery that we don't get the nourishment.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>If we can challenge ourselves to learn, even from the</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(09:58)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>most unlikely, unwor oarrented places, imagine that kind of mindset</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that you have. Imagine the strength and the resilience you'll</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>have when you're able to become better even from someone</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>who's bitter, When you're able to grow even when someone's</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>trying to guilt you, when you're able to find a shift,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>even when someone's trying to shame you. Imagine how powerful</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(10:20)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you become when you can transform turn anything into gold.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>That's what the real mind is. Touches the ability to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>turn criticism into creativity, the ability to turn feedback into</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>future motion, the ability to turn mistakes into megas success.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(10:44)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>It's a powerful trait, one that's extremely hard to follow,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>one that's extremely hard to do because we think the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>message is disqualified if the messenger is unqualified. But I'm</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>here to tell you this, I've learned the hard way.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Take the message. Take it even if you don't like</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(11:05)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the messenger, reflect on it, introspect on it, disconnect it</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>from the messenger so that you can truly digest it.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>The next thing that these two wonderful creatives shared and</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>popularized was this idea that we also meet people in</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>our life who are like a window, and they talked</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>about the window is someone who sees more for you,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(11:29)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>who sees more for you, who sees more potential in you,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>who shows you a portal into a new space, a</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>new world. I'm sure you've met people that showed you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>your potential when you can't even realize it. When you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>met people who showed you a vision that you'd never</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(11:49)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>even considered before. Someone who opened the blinds and opened</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the window and let the fresh air and the sunlight</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>in when you were in the darkness. What's interesting about</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>this type of person is that often when they first</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>show us the light We're almost like vampires, like we</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>like close our eyes and we're like, oh, I don't</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>want to see this. I don't want to This literally</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>happened to me the other day. Raley woke me up</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(12:11)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to go to my workout, and my first reaction was like,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>why did you wake me up? But I didn't want</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to wake up. I'm so tired. You shouldn't let me sleep,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>And she's like, how am I meant to know? And</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>then afterwards I was like, I'm really sorry, I'm really</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>happy you woke me up. I was really glad I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>got to work out in Often, people who show us</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the window, we may even often show them the door.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>When they're seeing more for us. We may even discount</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(12:33)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that and say, you don't love me for who I am.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>You don't see what I do have. And that may</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>be true. It's not that you're wrong. They may be condescending.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>It may not come in a great tone either, but</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>chances are it's because they believe in you in some way.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>That doesn't mean you have to believe in their dream</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>for you, doesn't mean you have to chase their dream</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(12:54)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>for you, but maybe it will give you a glimpse</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>into what could be possible for you. People who create</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>wider possibilities in your life and possible options by showing</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you windows and glimpses can be some of the most</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>profound people in your life. I remember I used to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>have a mentor. He used to always say to me, Jay,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(13:15)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>will find your potential when you go through pain. He</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>was opening a window for me, a vision, and I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>used to think to him and say to him, Hey, like,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>come on, I know my potential. And then when I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>get through went through pain, I was reminded of that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>window he'd open me expose me to. He would also</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>say to me, Jay, you're an entrepreneur, and I'd say, no, no, no,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(13:37)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I'm not an entrepreneur. He'd say, no, you are. You're</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a leader, and I'd say, no, no, I'm not a leader.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>How many times have you said no to someone when</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>they have a vision for you. I used to also</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>think he had no awareness of who I actually was.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>That I've grown and expanded, I've recognized that he was</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>so right about so many things. And that's the interesting</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>thing about the windows that come into your life. Hopefully</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(14:00)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>they stay long enough that you can thank them, but</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a lot of them leave before you notice their impact.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>That's true of the first one too. Some mirrors come</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>into our life, and they may not be permanent mirrors.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>They were there for a moment, they were there for</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a fleeting experience, and of course we may move on</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>from some mirrors. We don't have to hold on to</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(14:22)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a mirror. If it's negative for us, if it's unhealthy</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>for us, if someone is raising things for us that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>are so triggering and so hurtful, sometimes we want to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>break the mirror, and we may drop it, we may</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>run away from it, and then in hindsight, with time</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>gone past, we can begin to value it. Similarly we</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>do that with windows. In the moment, we may think, well,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(14:45)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you don't know me, you don't understand me, you don't</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>recognize me. But actually, in the long term we think, well,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I'm so glad they showed me that window. One thing</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I've begun to realize is just because I don't see</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>what someone else sees, it doesn't mean I have to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>walk away. When someone sees what I don't see, the</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(15:09)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>first thing I do is I ask them, how do</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you see that? Where do you see that? Why do</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you see that? It's a point of being curious. I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>think we have a natural reaction when something doesn't perfectly match.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>We almost disregard it rather than being curious about it.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>How can we be curious about it? How can it</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(15:29)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>be truth to it? How can there be value to it?</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>How can there be some basis for it? And we</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>can also ask some of our doubts about why that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>doesn't work for us, why it doesn't make sense, why</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>we can't make sense of it, why it doesn't feel</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>right right now. And that's the key. Just because it</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(15:50)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>doesn't feel right right now doesn't mean it can't be</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>right one day. Just because something feels wrong right now</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>doesn't mean it can't be right one day. And something</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that can feel perfectly right right now may not feel</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>right one day. So don't focus so much on whether</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(16:11)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>something's right or wrong. Allow it to be what it is,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>which is that it's okay right now, it makes sense</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>right now. I think what we often do is we</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>want something that makes sense right now to make sense forever.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>We want something that feels right now to feel right forever.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(16:34)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>And then what happens is when we discover that it's</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>no longer what we want, we then look back and think, oh,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I wasted a lot of time. Oh I wish I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>knew this before. And what we do is we discount</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and invalidate the last few years. You didn't get something wrong.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>You did the best with what you knew then, and</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(16:55)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>guess what, You'll make more mistakes because you're only doing</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the best with what you need now. And that's okay,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>That's totally okay. Stop beating yourself up for not learning</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the lesson earlier. Stop ridiculing yourself and criticizing yourself for</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>not knowing things before. Stop hating on the past version</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(17:19)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of yourself. Because it got you here to the present.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>It got you here right now, to this answer, this solution,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>this resolution, this point of change, this pivot in your life.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>You got here because of that mindset. It protected you,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>it provided for you, and now it's your pivot. Often</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>what protects you one day may harm you, and your</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(17:44)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>job is only to realize the day that it turns</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>into harm, that you let it go. Your job is</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>not to look back and make the past feel like</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a waste of time or irrelevant or insignificant. So when</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you meet someone who shows you a window, be curious.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>When you meet someone who shares a vision with you,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>be curious. You don't have to follow it, you don't</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(18:04)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>have to pursue it, but be open to it. Aspect</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of the types of people we meet in our life,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>this person said was a door. These are the people</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that open doors for us. They are a door for us,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>They're a path for us. And I like to edit</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>this one. I feel like it's someone who opens doors</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>for you. These are usually what I call the in</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(18:25)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>between us. I promise you that you have a friend today.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>You may have a job you love, you have something</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>in your life that's meaningful, and you forgot the person</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>who introduced you to it. Whether it's a book, whether</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>it's an album, whether it's a person, whether it was</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a job, whether it was a community center or a sport,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(18:46)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>whatever it may be, there's someone in your life who</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>introduced you to something amazing. They open the door to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>something and you've forgotten who they are and that person</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>who opened the door for you. It's kind of like</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>if someone opens the door for you at a mall,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you walk through it. You may never know who they are,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>You may never even ask who they are. You may</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>smile and say thanks. Imagine the people that are doing</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(19:09)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that for you in life. There are people literally opening</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>doors for you in life that we forget, we lead behind,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>we move on from because we moved forward. Take a</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>moment to send that person a message, Take a moment</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to thank that person, Take a moment to acknowledge that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>person today. Maybe send them a message, send them a note,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(19:30)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>because that person's amazing. They open a door for you.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I wanted to add one more to this. I think</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>we also meet people who are like keys, people who</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>unlock parts of us in the most beautiful, gentlest of ways,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and the way that fits perfectly right with the window.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>It was someone showing us a window. With the door,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(19:51)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>it's someone opening the door. It's with the mirror. It</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>could be harsh, it could be easy, but with the key,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>everything makes sense. Everything unlocks, everything's the perfect fit. And</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>sometimes you have to try a lot of keys to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>find the one right. Imagine you've got all these keys</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>around your you know, a big keychain, and you're testing</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(20:13)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>each key to see if it works, and one fits</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>kind of half and one gets stuck, and one doesn't</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>quite turn the lock. It takes a lot of keys</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to find the one key that unlocks it all. And</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that's what life can be sometimes, like especially romantically, where</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>romantically we've had a lot of mirrors, people who showed</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>us the worst parts of ourselves, the best parts of ourselves,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(20:35)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and maybe even showed us broken mirrors. I think that's</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a really interesting part of it, where really, in relationships,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>what we're doing is we're both holding up a broken</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>mirror and we're reflecting broken parts of ourselves and the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>other person to each other with the window. In a</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>romantic relationship, someone shows it, but we may not be</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>ready yet, we may still be in bed going I</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(20:56)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>don't want to see anything right now, And often we</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>live to regret that. We end up thinking, oh, well,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I wish that person who saw my potential could still</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>be here right now. But guess what that was. Their role,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>their role in your life was just to move you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>in that direction and you weren't ready for them yet,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and that's okay. And then we'll meet people who open doors,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and maybe they are the people we forget, they're the</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(21:17)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>people we leave behind. Let's not do that. Let's remember them,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>let's thank them, let's appreciate them, and finally they'll be</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the key. The rarest of them all, people that hard</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to find, people that other people try to pretend to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>be false keys until we find the right one. What</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>does this mean for us? It means that when you</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(21:39)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>meet someone, reflect from what role they played in your life,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>not what they did to you, maybe not even what</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>they said to you. What role did they play and</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>how did you leave them a better person. People may</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>not leave you better off, but you can leave them</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>better off for yourself. People may not leave you happy,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(22:00)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>but you can heal to happiness yourself. People may not</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>easily help you become better, but you can help yourself</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>not become bitter. I wish you all the best in</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>your relationships. I wish you all the best in all</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of your endeavors. Remember that I'm forever in your corner</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and I'm always rooting for you. And again, don't forget</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(22:23)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to follow kim Perrot's and stery Our Hope on TikTok.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Amazing creatives putting out great content that I think you'll love,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and I'm so glad to both of them for introducing</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>me to this idea that hopefully I've remixed today added</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>some of my own thoughts and reflections in a way</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that is helpful to all of you. Thank you, if</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(22:46)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you love this episode, you'll enjoy my interview with doctor</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Daniel Ahman on how to change your life by changing</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>your brain. If we want a healthy mind, it actually</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>starts with a healthy brain. 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