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class="vector-toc-link" href="#Italics_in_art_song_titles"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9</span> <span>Italics in art song titles</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Italics_in_art_song_titles-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Hi_there" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Hi_there"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>Hi there</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Hi_there-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Reversing_order_of_tables" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Reversing_order_of_tables"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>Reversing order of tables</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Reversing_order_of_tables-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Comments_by_Austria10" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Comments_by_Austria10"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>Comments by Austria10</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Comments_by_Austria10-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Mon_cœur_s'ouvre_à_ta_voix" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Mon_cœur_s'ouvre_à_ta_voix"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>Mon cœur s'ouvre à ta voix</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Mon_cœur_s'ouvre_à_ta_voix-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Barnstar!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Barnstar!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>Barnstar!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Barnstar!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Re:_Lise_with_a_Parasol" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Re:_Lise_with_a_Parasol"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>Re: Lise with a Parasol</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Re:_Lise_with_a_Parasol-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>Notice of Dispute resolution noticeboard discussion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-I_dip_my_lid" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#I_dip_my_lid"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>I dip my lid</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-I_dip_my_lid-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Nomination_of_Nationality_of_Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart_for_deletion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Nomination_of_Nationality_of_Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart_for_deletion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>Nomination of Nationality of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart for deletion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Nomination_of_Nationality_of_Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart_for_deletion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Notice_of_neutral_point_of_view_noticeboard_discussion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Notice_of_neutral_point_of_view_noticeboard_discussion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>Notice of neutral point of view noticeboard discussion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Notice_of_neutral_point_of_view_noticeboard_discussion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Threading_issue_at_Template_talk:Sfn" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Threading_issue_at_Template_talk:Sfn"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>Threading issue at Template talk:Sfn</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Threading_issue_at_Template_talk:Sfn-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-"Notte_e_giorno_faticar"" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#"Notte_e_giorno_faticar""> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>"Notte e giorno faticar"</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-"Notte_e_giorno_faticar"-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Israeli_peace_song" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Israeli_peace_song"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span>Israeli peace song</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">10 comments</span> <button aria-controls="toc-Israeli_peace_song-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Toggle Israeli peace song subsection</span> </button> <ul id="toc-Israeli_peace_song-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-Shalom_chaverim" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Shalom_chaverim"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22.1</span> <span>Shalom chaverim</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Shalom_chaverim-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Logo_UniSC.svc.svg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Logo_UniSC.svc.svg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>Orphaned non-free image File:Logo UniSC.svc.svg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Logo_UniSC.svc.svg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-FYI" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#FYI"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>FYI</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-FYI-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-It's_a_confirmed_version_of_the_voice" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#It's_a_confirmed_version_of_the_voice"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>It's a confirmed version of the voice</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-It's_a_confirmed_version_of_the_voice-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Notice_of_edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Notice_of_edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Notice_of_edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Replaceable_non-free_use_File:Das-lila-Lied.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Replaceable_non-free_use_File:Das-lila-Lied.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>Replaceable non-free use File:Das-lila-Lied.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Replaceable_non-free_use_File:Das-lila-Lied.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_kitten_for_you!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_kitten_for_you!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>A kitten for you!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-A_kitten_for_you!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thank_you_..." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thank_you_..."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span>Thank you ...</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Thank_you_...-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Category:Klingon-language_operas_has_been_nominated_for_merging" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Category:Klingon-language_operas_has_been_nominated_for_merging"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>Category:Klingon-language operas has been nominated for merging</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Category:Klingon-language_operas_has_been_nominated_for_merging-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Magic_Flute_ogg_files" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Magic_Flute_ogg_files"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>Magic Flute ogg files</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Magic_Flute_ogg_files-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-apologies_regarding_{{ill}}_discussion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#apologies_regarding_{{ill}}_discussion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>apologies regarding <span>{{</span>ill<span>}}</span> discussion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-apologies_regarding_{{ill}}_discussion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-76.91.229.226" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#76.91.229.226"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>76.91.229.226</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-76.91.229.226-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-May_music" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#May_music"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>May music</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-May_music-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-What_about_of_George_Alexander_Macfarren's_Helvellyn_(1864)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#What_about_of_George_Alexander_Macfarren's_Helvellyn_(1864)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>What about of George Alexander Macfarren's Helvellyn (1864)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-What_about_of_George_Alexander_Macfarren's_Helvellyn_(1864)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-"better_source_needed"_tag_on_Richard_Strauss" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#"better_source_needed"_tag_on_Richard_Strauss"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>"better source needed" tag on 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id="toc-Really_confused_by_reversion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-August_music" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#August_music"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>August music</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-August_music-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Australian_newspaper_reach" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Australian_newspaper_reach"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>The Australian newspaper reach</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-The_Australian_newspaper_reach-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-September_music" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#September_music"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span>September music</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-September_music-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thank_you_for_your_help_with_score_and_LilyPond" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thank_you_for_your_help_with_score_and_LilyPond"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>Thank you for your help with score and LilyPond</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Thank_you_for_your_help_with_score_and_LilyPond-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Osborne_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Osborne_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span 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0.5em;max-width:35em;width:100%;width:-moz-available;width:-webkit-fill-available;width:stretch"><tbody><tr><td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_10" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek/Archive 10">Archive 10</a></td><td>←</td><td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_15" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek/Archive 15">Archive 15</a></td><td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_16" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek/Archive 16">Archive 16</a></td><td><span style="font-size:115%;"><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Archive 17</a></span></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart-20230102225300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart-20230102225300"></span><a href="/wiki/Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart" title="Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart">Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart-20230102225300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Onetwothreeip-20230102225300-Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart"></span>Hi there. I've looked at the talk page for this article and also the latest talk archive page and found, unsurprisingly, that most editors would prefer this article includes an infobox. I came across this as I was looking for basic biographical information about the article subject, and was very surprised to see that this article did not have an infobox, despite the majority of articles including one, and an even larger majority of biographical articles including an infobox. Could you please self revert to ensure that this article has an infobox? Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Onetwothreeip" title="User:Onetwothreeip">Onetwothreeip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Onetwothreeip" title="User talk:Onetwothreeip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Onetwothreeip-20230102225300-Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:53, 2 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Onetwothreeip-20230102225300-Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Onetwothreeip-20230102225300-Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230103005600-Onetwothreeip-20230102225300"></span>I've looked through <a href="/wiki/Talk:Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart" title="Talk:Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart">Talk:Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart</a> and its archives #14 & #15, and I can't find consensus in favour of an infobox. Two RfCs in those archives closed against an infobox. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20230103005600-Onetwothreeip-20230102225300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:56, 3 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230103005600-Onetwothreeip-20230102225300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230103005600-Onetwothreeip-20230102225300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Onetwothreeip-20230103065300-Michael_Bednarek-20230103005600"></span>The current talk page shows that CactiStaccingCrane and Mottengott support including an infobox, with no expressed opposition. In the Archive 15, it is clear that Cj7557, KyuuA4, Here2rewrite, Politicsfan4, BigRed606, Rauisuchian, AvRand, Jojhutton, Sahaib3005, Furius, Morvahna, AHI-3000, DividedFrame, Antiok 1pie support an infobox being included as well. There is no explicit opposition there, though some editors saying that the issue was already settled, such as yourself.</dd> <dd>I assume that you oppose including an infobox, completely separate from your assessment of talk page consensus, for what could certainly be supportable reasons that you may have held for years. However, you surely must agree that in 2023, Wikipedia editors today very broadly support including an infobox, and that this would also be the case for a biography article such as this one. In the spirit of wasting as little time as possible, can we set this dispute from the past aside and let the inevitable happen? You have the right not to let it go, but we would then be engaging in a process, such as a Request For Comment, which would end how we both know how it would. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Onetwothreeip" title="User:Onetwothreeip">Onetwothreeip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Onetwothreeip" title="User talk:Onetwothreeip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Onetwothreeip-20230103065300-Michael_Bednarek-20230103005600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:53, 3 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Onetwothreeip-20230103065300-Michael_Bednarek-20230103005600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Onetwothreeip-20230103065300-Michael_Bednarek-20230103005600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230103071200-Onetwothreeip-20230103065300"></span>If you think now is the time for the inevitable to happen, I suggest you make that argument at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Infoboxes" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Infoboxes">Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Infoboxes</a> to get the wording of <a href="/wiki/MOS:INFOBOXUSE" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:INFOBOXUSE">MOS:INFOBOXUSE</a> changed. And no, I don't have any idea about the result of a future RfC at WAM. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20230103071200-Onetwothreeip-20230103065300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:12, 3 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230103071200-Onetwothreeip-20230103065300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230103071200-Onetwothreeip-20230103065300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Onetwothreeip-20230103072500-Michael_Bednarek-20230103071200"></span>This is not about Wikipedia policy on infoboxes broadly applying to articles. This is about editors supporting an infobox on the Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart article in particular. Are you at least willing to not revert an infobox and seeing what happens? <a href="/wiki/User:Onetwothreeip" title="User:Onetwothreeip">Onetwothreeip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Onetwothreeip" title="User talk:Onetwothreeip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Onetwothreeip-20230103072500-Michael_Bednarek-20230103071200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:25, 3 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Onetwothreeip-20230103072500-Michael_Bednarek-20230103071200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Onetwothreeip-20230103072500-Michael_Bednarek-20230103071200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230103073200-Onetwothreeip-20230103072500"></span>Not until a RfC recommends it. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20230103073200-Onetwothreeip-20230103072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:32, 3 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230103073200-Onetwothreeip-20230103072500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230103073200-Onetwothreeip-20230103072500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="David_Lloyd_George" data-mw-thread-id="h-David_Lloyd_George-20230301105500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-David_Lloyd_George-20230301105500"></span>David Lloyd George<span data-mw-comment-end="h-David_Lloyd_George-20230301105500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DuncanHill-20230301105500-David_Lloyd_George"></span>Please don't change to sfn or harvnb. If you want to change referencing style you must get consensus first, on the article talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-DuncanHill-20230301105500-David_Lloyd_George" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:55, 1 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DuncanHill-20230301105500-David_Lloyd_George"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DuncanHill-20230301105500-David_Lloyd_George"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230301121700-DuncanHill-20230301105500"></span>The article on <a href="/wiki/David_Lloyd_George" title="David Lloyd George">David Lloyd George</a> was inconsistent in its citation style before my edit; it had 3 <span class="nowrap">{{sfn}}</span> and 82 <span class="nowrap">{{harvnb}}</span> citations, so that ship seems to have sailed a while ago. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20230301121700-DuncanHill-20230301105500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:17, 1 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230301121700-DuncanHill-20230301105500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230301121700-DuncanHill-20230301105500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DuncanHill-20230308224500-Michael_Bednarek-20230301121700"></span>Out of over 200. <a href="/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-DuncanHill-20230308224500-Michael_Bednarek-20230301121700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:45, 8 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DuncanHill-20230308224500-Michael_Bednarek-20230301121700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DuncanHill-20230308224500-Michael_Bednarek-20230301121700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230308230900-DuncanHill-20230308224500"></span>IOW, inconsistent. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20230308230900-DuncanHill-20230308224500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:09, 8 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230308230900-DuncanHill-20230308224500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230308230900-DuncanHill-20230308224500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DuncanHill-20230308232100-Michael_Bednarek-20230308230900"></span>Isle of Wight? Anyway, whatever you might mean by IOW, there isn't a consensus to switch to a single style. So I'll be changing them back - you did make some helpful changes, so I won't be doing a blanket reversion. <a href="/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-DuncanHill-20230308232100-Michael_Bednarek-20230308230900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:21, 8 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DuncanHill-20230308232100-Michael_Bednarek-20230308230900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DuncanHill-20230308232100-Michael_Bednarek-20230308230900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230308235700-DuncanHill-20230308232100"></span>(<a href="/wiki/IOW" class="mw-disambig" title="IOW">IOW</a>, def #2) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CITEVAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CITEVAR">WP:CITEVAR</a> deals with "an article's established citation style"; Lloyd George's article doesn't have that. Reverting e.g. the Crosby and Gilbert citations (unnecessarily repeated publication data) would not improve the article. In fact, a rigorous examination of the article's citations would discover works not cited in the article but listed under "Biography", like Bennett (1999), which should be under "Further reading". -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20230308235700-DuncanHill-20230308232100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:57, 8 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230308235700-DuncanHill-20230308232100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230308235700-DuncanHill-20230308232100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Proposed_deletion_of_Romani_ite_domum" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proposed_deletion_of_Romani_ite_domum-20230313140400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proposed_deletion_of_Romani_ite_domum-20230313140400"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Proposed deletion">Proposed deletion</a> of <a href="/wiki/Romani_ite_domum" title="Romani ite domum">Romani ite domum</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proposed_deletion_of_Romani_ite_domum-20230313140400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fourthords-20230313140400-Proposed_deletion_of_Romani_ite_domum"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="Notice" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/74/Ambox_warning_yellow.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_yellow.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/74/Ambox_warning_yellow.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_yellow.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/74/Ambox_warning_yellow.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_yellow.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="386" data-file-height="334"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>The article <a href="/wiki/Romani_ite_domum" title="Romani ite domum">Romani ite domum</a> has been <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Proposed deletion">proposed for deletion</a> because of the following concern: </p> <blockquote><p><b>Handily fails <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PLOT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PLOT">WP:PLOT</a> & <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">WP:N</a> (nominated at <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_ite_domum">the request</a> of <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">User:Michael Bednarek</a>)</b></p></blockquote> <p>While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DEL#REASON" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DEL">deleted for any of several reasons</a>. </p><p>You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the <span class="nowrap"><code>{{proposed deletion/dated}}</code></span> notice, but please explain why in your <a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_summary" title="Help:Edit summary">edit summary</a> or on <a href="/wiki/Talk:Romani_ite_domum" title="Talk:Romani ite domum">the article's talk page</a>. </p><p>Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing <span class="nowrap"><code>{{proposed deletion/dated}}</code></span> will stop the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Proposed deletion">proposed deletion process</a>, but other <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process">deletion processes</a> exist. In particular, the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">speedy deletion</a> process can result in deletion without discussion, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion">articles for deletion</a> allows discussion to reach <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a> for deletion. — <b><a href="/wiki/User:Fourthords" title="User:Fourthords"><span style="color:#CC0000">Fourthords</span></a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fourthords" title="User talk:Fourthords">=Λ=</a> |</b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Fourthords-20230313140400-Proposed_deletion_of_Romani_ite_domum" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:04, 13 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fourthords-20230313140400-Proposed_deletion_of_Romani_ite_domum"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fourthords-20230313140400-Proposed_deletion_of_Romani_ite_domum"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230313141500-Fourthords-20230313140400"></span>I made no such request and reverted your PROD. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20230313141500-Fourthords-20230313140400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:15, 13 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230313141500-Fourthords-20230313140400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230313141500-Fourthords-20230313140400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nomination_of_Romani_ite_domum_for_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nomination_of_Romani_ite_domum_for_deletion-20230313145700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nomination_of_Romani_ite_domum_for_deletion-20230313145700"></span>Nomination of <a href="/wiki/Romani_ite_domum" title="Romani ite domum">Romani ite domum</a> for deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nomination_of_Romani_ite_domum_for_deletion-20230313145700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="afd-notice"> <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fourthords-20230313145700-Nomination_of_Romani_ite_domum_for_deletion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span></span></div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article <b><a href="/wiki/Romani_ite_domum" title="Romani ite domum">Romani ite domum</a></b> is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_policies_and_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines">Wikipedia's policies and guidelines</a> or whether it should be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy" title="Wikipedia:Deletion policy">deleted</a>. <p>The article will be discussed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Romani_ite_domum" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Romani ite domum">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Romani ite domum</a> until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. </p><p>Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. </p> </div><p> — <b><a href="/wiki/User:Fourthords" title="User:Fourthords"><span style="color:#CC0000">Fourthords</span></a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fourthords" title="User talk:Fourthords">=Λ=</a> |</b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Fourthords-20230313145700-Nomination_of_Romani_ite_domum_for_deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 13 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fourthords-20230313145700-Nomination_of_Romani_ite_domum_for_deletion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fourthords-20230313145700-Nomination_of_Romani_ite_domum_for_deletion"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="grafton_high_school_BT_edit" data-mw-thread-id="h-grafton_high_school_BT_edit-20230318120000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-grafton_high_school_BT_edit-20230318120000"></span>grafton high school BT edit<span data-mw-comment-end="h-grafton_high_school_BT_edit-20230318120000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elizzaflanagan221-20230318120000-grafton_high_school_BT_edit"></span>why did u revert the notable alumni in <a href="/wiki/Grafton_High_School_(New_South_Wales)" title="Grafton High School (New South Wales)">grafton high school</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Elizzaflanagan221" title="User:Elizzaflanagan221">Elizzaflanagan221</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elizzaflanagan221" title="User talk:Elizzaflanagan221">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Elizzaflanagan221-20230318120000-grafton_high_school_BT_edit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:00, 18 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elizzaflanagan221-20230318120000-grafton_high_school_BT_edit"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elizzaflanagan221-20230318120000-grafton_high_school_BT_edit"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230318121700-Elizzaflanagan221-20230318120000"></span>He's not notable. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20230318121700-Elizzaflanagan221-20230318120000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:17, 18 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230318121700-Elizzaflanagan221-20230318120000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230318121700-Elizzaflanagan221-20230318120000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="MSO_and_Imelda_Clancy." data-mw-thread-id="h-MSO_and_Imelda_Clancy.-20230319231400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-MSO_and_Imelda_Clancy.-20230319231400"></span>MSO and Imelda Clancy.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-MSO_and_Imelda_Clancy.-20230319231400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Albert_Isaacs-20230319231400-MSO_and_Imelda_Clancy."></span>Dear Michael, </p><p>The issue of Imelda Clancy as leader of the MSO is quite confusing! Bertha Jorgensen was certainly the first female leader of the Orchestra, and you will note that I have added ABC publicity as a source for this. The ABC is certainly a more reliable source than Punch magazine. Nevertheless, I looked at the article in Punch, and it does state that Imelda Clancy led the MSO in a version of Le Marsiellese. I suspect that she may have been an acting leader. However, as I said, the ABC is most certainly a better source for information than the little Punch magazine. Further, there are other sources than the ABC that show that Jorgensen was the first female leader (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.google.com/search?q=bertha+jorgensen&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBAU883AU883&oq=Be&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j46i131i199i433i465i512l3j69i60l3.8622j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8">https://www.google.com/search?q=bertha+jorgensen&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBAU883AU883&oq=Be&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j46i131i199i433i465i512l3j69i60l3.8622j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8</a>) <a href="/wiki/User:Albert_Isaacs" title="User:Albert Isaacs">Albert Isaacs</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Albert_Isaacs" title="User talk:Albert Isaacs">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Albert_Isaacs-20230319231400-MSO_and_Imelda_Clancy." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:14, 19 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Albert_Isaacs-20230319231400-MSO_and_Imelda_Clancy."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Albert_Isaacs-20230319231400-MSO_and_Imelda_Clancy."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230320020000-Albert_Isaacs-20230319231400"></span>You misread the <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Melbourne_Symphony_Orchestra&oldid=1145430316">article after my edit</a></span>. It did not name Clancy as the leader of the <a href="/wiki/Melbourne_Symphony_Orchestra" title="Melbourne Symphony Orchestra">Melbourne Symphony Orchestra</a> but as the 1st violin. Imelda Clancy is mentioned in several concert reviews of the time and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://about.unimelb.edu.au/old-quad/exhibitions/past-exhibitions/multivocal/share-your-story">here</a>; she deserves some mention in this article. Your removal of the <i>Punch</i> citation additionally dropped an interesting light on the history of the orchestra's name, at least as reported in the press. I suggest you restore the fundamentals of the previous version. I also encourage you to dig up an online source for the <i><a href="/wiki/Wireless_Weekly" title="Wireless Weekly">Wireless Weekly</a></i> article from 29 July 1927. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20230320020000-Albert_Isaacs-20230319231400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:00, 20 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230320020000-Albert_Isaacs-20230319231400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230320020000-Albert_Isaacs-20230319231400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Noel_Coward_template" data-mw-thread-id="h-Noel_Coward_template-20230404044400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Noel_Coward_template-20230404044400"></span>Noel Coward template<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Noel_Coward_template-20230404044400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Britfilm-20230404044400-Noel_Coward_template"></span>Thanks for your support [at <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:No%C3%ABl_Coward_musicals" title="Template talk:Noël Coward musicals">Template talk:Noël Coward musicals</a>] on the template issue <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Britfilm&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Britfilm (page does not exist)">Britfilm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Britfilm" title="User talk:Britfilm">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Britfilm-20230404044400-Noel_Coward_template" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:44, 4 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Britfilm-20230404044400-Noel_Coward_template"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Britfilm-20230404044400-Noel_Coward_template"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thank_you" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thank_you-20230604115800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thank_you-20230604115800"></span>Thank you<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thank_you-20230604115800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Viriditas-20230604115800-Thank_you"></span>I appreciate the photos you sent me. They are quite literally perfect, in terms of framing and composition. However, the Panasonic Lumix DMC-TZ57 seems to have a known issue with autofocus that I've seen with other cameras from that era (Venus IX 2014) that leads to blurry images if you aren't aware of it, hence your problem. I will try to clean them up in post and see if I can salvage them, but please be assured, the problem isn't with your photography skills, the images themselves are perfectly composed. If you plan on continuing to use the camera, read up on how to use the autofocus feature as it will save you some trouble in the future. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/panasonic_lumix_dmc_tz57_review">This article</a> explains the known problem. Thanks again. <a href="/wiki/User:Viriditas" title="User:Viriditas">Viriditas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Viriditas" title="User talk:Viriditas">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Viriditas-20230604115800-Thank_you" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:58, 4 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Viriditas-20230604115800-Thank_you"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Viriditas-20230604115800-Thank_you"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Viriditas-20230605105700-Viriditas-20230604115800"></span>Hi, you asked me to notify you when I uploaded the photo. I have chosen to upload P1030769.jpg. It is the only photo of the painting that is in focus, more or less. And it perfectly demonstrates the large size at an angle, just as I requested, so I must thank you yet again. I will reply with the new file name in just a moment. <a href="/wiki/User:Viriditas" title="User:Viriditas">Viriditas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Viriditas" title="User talk:Viriditas">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Viriditas-20230605105700-Viriditas-20230604115800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:57, 5 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Viriditas-20230605105700-Viriditas-20230604115800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Viriditas-20230605105700-Viriditas-20230604115800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Viriditas-20230605115100-Viriditas-20230605105700"></span>Image located <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lise_Museum_Folkwang_2023.jpg">here</a>. Added to the article <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lise_with_a_Parasol&diff=1158654371&oldid=1154890176">here</a>. If you can think of a better caption, please modify it. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Viriditas" title="User:Viriditas">Viriditas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Viriditas" title="User talk:Viriditas">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Viriditas-20230605115100-Viriditas-20230605105700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:51, 5 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Viriditas-20230605115100-Viriditas-20230605105700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Viriditas-20230605115100-Viriditas-20230605105700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Italics_in_art_song_titles" data-mw-thread-id="h-Italics_in_art_song_titles-20230610130600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Italics_in_art_song_titles-20230610130600"></span>Italics in art song titles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Italics_in_art_song_titles-20230610130600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SaryaniPaschtorr-20230610130600-Italics_in_art_song_titles"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael</a>. Re <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liederkreis%2C_Op._39_%28Schumann%29&diff=1159455004&oldid=1159454025">this</a> revert: the MoS (which is often wrong anyway for my money) does not give any foreign-language examples of minor works. But surely <i>Lieder</i> with German titles are to be italicised for the same reason that it's right to italicise "<i>Lieder</i>". Is there guidance on this? What is your opinion? <a href="/wiki/User:SaryaniPaschtorr" title="User:SaryaniPaschtorr">SaryaniPaschtorr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SaryaniPaschtorr" title="User talk:SaryaniPaschtorr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-SaryaniPaschtorr-20230610130600-Italics_in_art_song_titles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:06, 10 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SaryaniPaschtorr-20230610130600-Italics_in_art_song_titles"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SaryaniPaschtorr-20230610130600-Italics_in_art_song_titles"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230611011400-SaryaniPaschtorr-20230610130600"></span>Wikipedia's <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MOS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MOS">MoS</a> is a product of consensus and carries some weight. Deviations from it are likely to be corrected. The place to raise concerns about it are the relevant talk pages.<div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div><a href="/wiki/MOS:NAMESANDTITLES" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:NAMESANDTITLES">MOS:NAMESANDTITLES</a> and <a href="/wiki/MOS:NOITALIC" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:NOITALIC">MOS:NOITALIC</a> cover the case of foreign language minor works and recommend quotation marks only, no italics. The words 'lied' and 'lieder' in lower case are loanwords, and are not italicised; see <a href="/wiki/MOS:FOREIGNITALIC" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:FOREIGNITALIC">MOS:FOREIGNITALIC</a> and <a href="/wiki/MOS:FOREIGN" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:FOREIGN">MOS:FOREIGN</a>. Whether it's a genuine foreign term when spelled in upper case, 'Lied', 'Lieder', seems debatable; generally, I wouldn't italicise them. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20230611011400-SaryaniPaschtorr-20230610130600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:14, 11 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230611011400-SaryaniPaschtorr-20230610130600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230611011400-SaryaniPaschtorr-20230610130600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hi_there" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hi_there-20230623005000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hi_there-20230623005000"></span>Hi there<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hi_there-20230623005000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SpinnerLaserzthe2nd-20230623005000-Hi_there"></span>How does the accepted key of an anthem was dubious. It has been establish in government sources. I tried to add them based on key signatures. <a href="/wiki/User:SpinnerLaserzthe2nd" title="User:SpinnerLaserzthe2nd">SpinnerLaserzthe2nd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SpinnerLaserzthe2nd" title="User talk:SpinnerLaserzthe2nd">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-SpinnerLaserzthe2nd-20230623005000-Hi_there" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:50, 23 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SpinnerLaserzthe2nd-20230623005000-Hi_there"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SpinnerLaserzthe2nd-20230623005000-Hi_there"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reversing_order_of_tables" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reversing_order_of_tables-20230730033200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reversing_order_of_tables-20230730033200"></span>Reversing order of tables<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reversing_order_of_tables-20230730033200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RJFJR-20230730033200-Reversing_order_of_tables"></span>If the list is just bullets I have a small program that reverse the order of each line. </p><p>For tables I use a text editor (one designed for programmers) that has a 'macro' function that I can use to reverse blocks; but then I need to manually take care of rowspans. Unfortunately I don't have an easier method right now. <a href="/wiki/User:RJFJR" title="User:RJFJR">RJFJR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RJFJR" title="User talk:RJFJR">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-RJFJR-20230730033200-Reversing_order_of_tables" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:32, 30 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RJFJR-20230730033200-Reversing_order_of_tables"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RJFJR-20230730033200-Reversing_order_of_tables"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Comments_by_Austria10" data-mw-thread-id="h-Comments_by_Austria10-20230810161300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Comments_by_Austria10-20230810161300"></span>Comments by Austria10<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Comments_by_Austria10-20230810161300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Austria10-20230810161300-Comments_by_Austria10"></span>STOP IT STOP EDITING MY STUFF AND STOP DESTROING MY WORK ON ARTICLES <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Austria10&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Austria10 (page does not exist)">Austria10</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Austria10" title="User talk:Austria10">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Austria10-20230810161300-Comments_by_Austria10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 10 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Austria10-20230810161300-Comments_by_Austria10"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Austria10-20230810161300-Comments_by_Austria10"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Austria10-20230810161600-Austria10-20230810161300"></span>AND GET YOUR REVERSING ORDER OF TABLES THING OUT OF HERE <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Austria10&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Austria10 (page does not exist)">Austria10</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Austria10" title="User talk:Austria10">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Austria10-20230810161600-Austria10-20230810161300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:16, 10 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Austria10-20230810161600-Austria10-20230810161300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Austria10-20230810161600-Austria10-20230810161300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230811014400-Austria10-20230810161600"></span>I recommend you read <a href="/wiki/Help:Talk_pages" title="Help:Talk pages">Help:Talk pages</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines">Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines</a>, especially <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SHOUT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SHOUT">WP:SHOUT</a>. If you have concerns about my edits to specific articles, I suggest you raise those on the talk pages of those articles so other interested readers can participate. General displeasure uttered on my talk page cannot start a meaningful discussion. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20230811014400-Austria10-20230810161600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:44, 11 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230811014400-Austria10-20230810161600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20230811014400-Austria10-20230810161600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Austria10-20230811160900-Michael_Bednarek-20230811014400"></span>just stop it stop it right NOW AND LEAVE ME ALONE <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Austria10&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Austria10 (page does not exist)">Austria10</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Austria10" title="User talk:Austria10">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Austria10-20230811160900-Michael_Bednarek-20230811014400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:09, 11 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Austria10-20230811160900-Michael_Bednarek-20230811014400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Austria10-20230811160900-Michael_Bednarek-20230811014400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Austria10-20230812145200-Austria10-20230811160900"></span>o by the way the YouTube video I noticed near the end of the 2nd movement I heard the main theme of the 3rd movement that's why I linked it <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Austria10&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Austria10 (page does not exist)">Austria10</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Austria10" title="User talk:Austria10">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Austria10-20230812145200-Austria10-20230811160900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:52, 12 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Austria10-20230812145200-Austria10-20230811160900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Austria10-20230812145200-Austria10-20230811160900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Austria10-20230812145500-Austria10-20230812145200"></span>and sorry for the fight <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Austria10&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Austria10 (page does not exist)">Austria10</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Austria10" title="User talk:Austria10">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Austria10-20230812145500-Austria10-20230812145200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:55, 12 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Austria10-20230812145500-Austria10-20230812145200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Austria10-20230812145500-Austria10-20230812145200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mon_cœur_s'ouvre_à_ta_voix" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mon_cœur_s'ouvre_à_ta_voix-20230817032200"><span id="Mon_c.C5.93ur_s.27ouvre_.C3.A0_ta_voix"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mon_cœur_s'ouvre_à_ta_voix-20230817032200"></span>Mon cœur s'ouvre à ta voix<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mon_cœur_s'ouvre_à_ta_voix-20230817032200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anomalocaris-20230817032200-Mon_cœur_s'ouvre_à_ta_voix"></span>Thank you for fixing <a href="/wiki/Mon_c%C5%93ur_s%27ouvre_%C3%A0_ta_voix" title="Mon cœur s'ouvre à ta voix">Mon cœur s'ouvre à ta voix</a> the right way after my halfway measure. I'll keep <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Music_repeat" title="Template:Music repeat">Music repeat</a>}}</code> and <code><poem lang=...></code> in mind for future use. —<a href="/wiki/User:Anomalocaris" title="User:Anomalocaris">Anomalocaris</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anomalocaris" title="User talk:Anomalocaris">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Anomalocaris-20230817032200-Mon_cœur_s'ouvre_à_ta_voix" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:22, 17 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anomalocaris-20230817032200-Mon_cœur_s'ouvre_à_ta_voix"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anomalocaris-20230817032200-Mon_cœur_s'ouvre_à_ta_voix"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Barnstar!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Barnstar!-20231030035500"><span id="Barnstar.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Barnstar!-20231030035500"></span>Barnstar!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Barnstar!-20231030035500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:middle;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thinker78-20231030035500-Barnstar!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:%22What_a_Brilliant_Idea!%22_Barnstar.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/%22What_a_Brilliant_Idea%21%22_Barnstar.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="96" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="100" data-file-height="96"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">Your answer to my <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Categories&diff=prev&oldid=1182568452">Petscan question</a> was great! Thanks for the app! <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange"><a href="/wiki/User:Thinker78" title="User:Thinker78"><span style="color:white"><b>Thinker78</b></span></a></span> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thinker78" title="User talk:Thinker78">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Thinker78-20231030035500-Barnstar!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:55, 30 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thinker78-20231030035500-Barnstar!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thinker78-20231030035500-Barnstar!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Re:_Lise_with_a_Parasol" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_Lise_with_a_Parasol-20231105215400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_Lise_with_a_Parasol-20231105215400"></span>Re: Lise with a Parasol<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_Lise_with_a_Parasol-20231105215400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Viriditas-20231105215400-Re:_Lise_with_a_Parasol"></span>The honest truth is I want what is best for Wikipedia, and at the end of the day, that means sublimating my own self-interested, long-term grudge matches, ego, and all the rest of my foibles in pursuit of that goal. If you truly think converting the citations to templates as your preferred style is an overall improvement (<a href="/wiki/Ordnung_muss_sein" title="Ordnung muss sein">Ordnung muss sein</a>?), then I would encourage you to do it, and I won't stop you. <a href="/wiki/User:Viriditas" title="User:Viriditas">Viriditas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Viriditas" title="User talk:Viriditas">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Viriditas-20231105215400-Re:_Lise_with_a_Parasol" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:54, 5 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Viriditas-20231105215400-Re:_Lise_with_a_Parasol"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Viriditas-20231105215400-Re:_Lise_with_a_Parasol"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion-20231107012700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion-20231107012700"></span>Notice of Dispute resolution noticeboard discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion-20231107012700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aemilius_Adolphin-20231107012700-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Peacedove.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Peacedove.svg/60px-Peacedove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="60" height="61" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Peacedove.svg/90px-Peacedove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Peacedove.svg/120px-Peacedove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="714" data-file-height="729"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard" title="Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard">Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard</a> regarding a content dispute discussion you may have participated in. Content disputes can hold up article development and make editing difficult. You are not required to participate, but you are both invited and encouraged to help this dispute come to a resolution. </p><p> Please join us to help form a consensus. Thank you! </p><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div><p> == </p><p>Hello Michael </p><p>I have requested dispute resolution relating to the <a href="/wiki/Cooman" title="Cooman">Cooman</a> page. </p><p>There's no need to participate if you don't want to, as the main dispute is between me and Poketama. I only added you because you seem to agree that the article isn't written from a neutral POV. </p><p>Happy to discuss. <a href="/wiki/User:Aemilius_Adolphin" title="User:Aemilius Adolphin">Aemilius Adolphin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aemilius_Adolphin" title="User talk:Aemilius Adolphin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Aemilius_Adolphin-20231107012700-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:27, 7 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aemilius_Adolphin-20231107012700-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aemilius_Adolphin-20231107012700-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="I_dip_my_lid" data-mw-thread-id="h-I_dip_my_lid-20231111035100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I_dip_my_lid-20231111035100"></span>I dip my lid<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I_dip_my_lid-20231111035100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MatthewDalhousie-20231111035100-I_dip_my_lid"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> - grateful for the tidy up you did for <a href="/wiki/Alliance_for_Responsible_Citizenship" title="Alliance for Responsible Citizenship">Alliance for Responsible Citizenship.</a> In much better shape now. <a href="/wiki/User:MatthewDalhousie" title="User:MatthewDalhousie">MatthewDalhousie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MatthewDalhousie" title="User talk:MatthewDalhousie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-MatthewDalhousie-20231111035100-I_dip_my_lid" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:51, 11 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MatthewDalhousie-20231111035100-I_dip_my_lid"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MatthewDalhousie-20231111035100-I_dip_my_lid"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nomination_of_Nationality_of_Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart_for_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nomination_of_Nationality_of_Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart_for_deletion-20231113150500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nomination_of_Nationality_of_Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart_for_deletion-20231113150500"></span>Nomination of <a href="/wiki/Nationality_of_Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart" title="Nationality of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart">Nationality of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart</a> for deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nomination_of_Nationality_of_Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart_for_deletion-20231113150500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="afd-notice"> <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SamuelRiv-20231113150500-Nomination_of_Nationality_of_Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart_for_deletion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span></span></div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article <a href="/wiki/Nationality_of_Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart" title="Nationality of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart">Nationality of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart</a> is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_policies_and_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines">Wikipedia's policies and guidelines</a> or whether it should be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy" title="Wikipedia:Deletion policy">deleted</a>. <p>The article will be discussed at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Nationality_of_Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nationality of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nationality of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart</a></b> until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. </p> Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.</div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:SamuelRiv" title="User:SamuelRiv">SamuelRiv</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SamuelRiv" title="User talk:SamuelRiv">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-SamuelRiv-20231113150500-Nomination_of_Nationality_of_Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart_for_deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 13 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SamuelRiv-20231113150500-Nomination_of_Nationality_of_Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart_for_deletion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SamuelRiv-20231113150500-Nomination_of_Nationality_of_Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart_for_deletion"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Notice_of_neutral_point_of_view_noticeboard_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Notice_of_neutral_point_of_view_noticeboard_discussion-20231114002500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Notice_of_neutral_point_of_view_noticeboard_discussion-20231114002500"></span>Notice of neutral point of view noticeboard discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Notice_of_neutral_point_of_view_noticeboard_discussion-20231114002500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aemilius_Adolphin-20231114002500-Notice_of_neutral_point_of_view_noticeboard_discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/25px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/38px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/50px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span> There is currently a discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard" title="Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard">Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard</a> regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. == </p><p>Hello Michael </p><p>It looks like no one on the dispute resolution board wanted to get involved, so I listed it with the neutral point of view forum. Once again, there's no need for you to get involved if you don't wish to. </p><p>Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Aemilius_Adolphin" title="User:Aemilius Adolphin">Aemilius Adolphin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aemilius_Adolphin" title="User talk:Aemilius Adolphin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Aemilius_Adolphin-20231114002500-Notice_of_neutral_point_of_view_noticeboard_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:25, 14 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aemilius_Adolphin-20231114002500-Notice_of_neutral_point_of_view_noticeboard_discussion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aemilius_Adolphin-20231114002500-Notice_of_neutral_point_of_view_noticeboard_discussion"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Threading_issue_at_Template_talk:Sfn" data-mw-thread-id="h-Threading_issue_at_Template_talk:Sfn-20231120021100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Threading_issue_at_Template_talk:Sfn-20231120021100"></span>Threading issue at Template talk:Sfn<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Threading_issue_at_Template_talk:Sfn-20231120021100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mathglot-20231120021100-Threading_issue_at_Template_talk:Sfn"></span>Hi, Michael. I was confused by the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:THREAD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:THREAD">indentation level</a> of your latest comment at <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Sfn#Just_a_note" title="Template talk:Sfn">Template talk:Sfn</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1185964316" title="Special:Diff/1185964316">diff</a>). You appear to be replying to me and taking me to task, but I doubt that was your intent, as my comment was in pretty complete agreement with you. The "mind-numbing and discouraging" comment you quoted was by the OP, and if you meant to reply to them, as I'm almost certain you did, then you want only one colon before your message. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Mathglot" title="User:Mathglot">Mathglot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mathglot" title="User talk:Mathglot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Mathglot-20231120021100-Threading_issue_at_Template_talk:Sfn" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:11, 20 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mathglot-20231120021100-Threading_issue_at_Template_talk:Sfn"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mathglot-20231120021100-Threading_issue_at_Template_talk:Sfn"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mathglot-20231120021500-Mathglot-20231120021100"></span>Or actually, since there's a section break between OP and your comment, maybe not. I think in that case it has to go flush left, but <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:THREAD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:THREAD">WP:THREAD</a> doesn't address that issue I don't think. <a href="/wiki/User:Mathglot" title="User:Mathglot">Mathglot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mathglot" title="User talk:Mathglot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Mathglot-20231120021500-Mathglot-20231120021100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:15, 20 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mathglot-20231120021500-Mathglot-20231120021100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mathglot-20231120021500-Mathglot-20231120021100"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mathglot-20231120021700-Mathglot-20231120021100"></span>Oh, I see you just adjusted it; thats probably fine, as the same OP started the subsection as the section it's embedded in. Thanks for the quick action. <abbr title="Winking face" style="border-bottom: none;"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Face-wink.svg/18px-Face-wink.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Face-wink.svg/27px-Face-wink.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Face-wink.svg/36px-Face-wink.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span></abbr> <a href="/wiki/User:Mathglot" title="User:Mathglot">Mathglot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mathglot" title="User talk:Mathglot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Mathglot-20231120021700-Mathglot-20231120021100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:17, 20 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mathglot-20231120021700-Mathglot-20231120021100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mathglot-20231120021700-Mathglot-20231120021100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Notte_e_giorno_faticar"" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Notte_e_giorno_faticar"-20231126100700"><span id=".22Notte_e_giorno_faticar.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Notte_e_giorno_faticar"-20231126100700"></span>"Notte e giorno faticar"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Notte_e_giorno_faticar"-20231126100700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Barr_Epstein-20231126100700-"Notte_e_giorno_faticar""></span>Dear Michael, thank you for checking both of my two last editions of <a href="/wiki/Don_Giovanni" title="Don Giovanni">Don Giovanni</a>. It seems that we share quite a lot of common interest. However I would like to point out that the first number of the opera cannot be described as an "aria", but as an introduction, through which not only this opera begins, but also <a href="/wiki/The_Magic_Flute" title="The Magic Flute">The Magic Flute</a>, <a href="/wiki/Una_cosa_rara" title="Una cosa rara">Una cosa rara</a> and <a href="/wiki/Il_matrimonio_segreto" title="Il matrimonio segreto">Il matrimonio segreto</a>. You are welcome to check Mozart's own autograph manuscript if you want, and see for yourself the word "Introduzione". <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://vmirror.imslp.org/files/imglnks/usimg/e/ef/IMSLP293279-PMLP36804-Mozart_-_Don_Giovanni,_Act_I.pdf">https://vmirror.imslp.org/files/imglnks/usimg/e/ef/IMSLP293279-PMLP36804-Mozart_-_Don_Giovanni,_Act_I.pdf</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Barr_Epstein&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Barr Epstein (page does not exist)">Barr Epstein</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Barr_Epstein" title="User talk:Barr Epstein">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Barr_Epstein-20231126100700-"Notte_e_giorno_faticar"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:07, 26 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Barr_Epstein-20231126100700-"Notte_e_giorno_faticar""></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Barr_Epstein-20231126100700-"Notte_e_giorno_faticar""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20231126121800-Barr_Epstein-20231126100700"></span>Yes, "Notte e giorno faticar" is marked as <span title="Italian-language text"><i lang="it">Introduzione</i></span> in the score, but IMO the phrase «cites the introduction "Notte …'» is a bit ambiguous – does Beethoven cite the introduction to this number? – so I reworded it to make it clearer. After all, it is practically an aria – an orchestral prelude, two verses of rhyming text, using several melodic phrases, almost 2 minutes long. Readers will be familiar with recitative, aria, duet, etc, but <span title="Italian-language text"><i lang="it">Introduzione</i></span> will baffle those who have not read the score. But if you want to restore your wording, go ahead – I (almost) never revert twice; but it might be helpful for readers to use <span title="Italian-language text"><i lang="it">Introduzione</i></span> in Italian. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20231126121800-Barr_Epstein-20231126100700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:18, 26 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20231126121800-Barr_Epstein-20231126100700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20231126121800-Barr_Epstein-20231126100700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Israeli_peace_song" data-mw-thread-id="h-Israeli_peace_song-20231023070300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Israeli_peace_song-20231023070300"></span>Israeli peace song<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Israeli_peace_song-20231023070300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20231023070300-Israeli_peace_song"></span>Thank you for the lilypond for <a href="/wiki/Hevenu_shalom_aleichem" title="Hevenu shalom aleichem">Hevenu shalom aleichem</a>. I commented out "D minor" because your sample is "E minor". Modern German hymnals assume that D is the highest note a congregation can manage ;) - Where does E minor come from? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Gerda_Arendt-20231023070300-Israeli_peace_song" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:03, 23 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20231023070300-Israeli_peace_song"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20231023070300-Israeli_peace_song"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20231023093200-Gerda_Arendt-20231023070300"></span>I found many score sheets of this song in E minor, which I preferred over D minor because it doesn't start on the A below the system. Let me know if you want it to be changed – it only takes <span class="nowrap"><code>\transpose e d { … }</code></span> to do that. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20231023093200-Gerda_Arendt-20231023070300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:32, 23 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20231023093200-Gerda_Arendt-20231023070300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20231023093200-Gerda_Arendt-20231023070300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20231023104800-Michael_Bednarek-20231023093200"></span>I like E minor, and just wondered, thank you for explaining ;) - I saw the EG version reproduced in the booklet for a wedding, and was one of the few actually singing. For <a href="/wiki/Gotteslob" title="Gotteslob">Gotteslob</a>, I noticed transpositions downward when going from the 1975 version to 2013, but this song is not in it. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Gerda_Arendt-20231023104800-Michael_Bednarek-20231023093200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:48, 23 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20231023104800-Michael_Bednarek-20231023093200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20231023104800-Michael_Bednarek-20231023093200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20231102203400-Israeli_peace_song"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1126788409">.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul{line-height:inherit;list-style:none;margin:0;padding:0}.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol li,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul li{margin-bottom:0}</style><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1257001546">.mw-parser-output .infobox-subbox{padding:0;border:none;margin:-3px;width:auto;min-width:100%;font-size:100%;clear:none;float:none;background-color:transparent}.mw-parser-output .infobox-3cols-child{margin:auto}.mw-parser-output .infobox .navbar{font-size:100%}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .infobox-full-data:not(.notheme)>div:not(.notheme)[style]{background:#1f1f23!important;color:#f8f9fa}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .infobox-full-data:not(.notheme) div:not(.notheme){background:#1f1f23!important;color:#f8f9fa}}@media(min-width:640px){body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table{display:table!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table>caption{display:table-caption!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table>tbody{display:table-row-group}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table tr{display:table-row!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table th,body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table td{padding-left:inherit;padding-right:inherit}}</style><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);; border-radius:0.5em;"><caption class="infobox-title"><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Places_and_songs_2023#4_Nov" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2023">November songs</a></caption><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Bittersweet,_Mohegan_Lake.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Bittersweet%2C_Mohegan_Lake.jpg/290px-Bittersweet%2C_Mohegan_Lake.jpg" decoding="async" width="290" height="218" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Bittersweet%2C_Mohegan_Lake.jpg/435px-Bittersweet%2C_Mohegan_Lake.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Bittersweet%2C_Mohegan_Lake.jpg/580px-Bittersweet%2C_Mohegan_Lake.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3093" data-file-height="2321"/></a></span></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header"><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Top" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Top">my story today</a></th></tr></tbody></table> <p>Thank you for what you put into the peace song, making it survive, - my <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#2_Nov" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">story today</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Gerda_Arendt-20231102203400-Israeli_peace_song" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:34, 2 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20231102203400-Israeli_peace_song"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20231102203400-Israeli_peace_song"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20231126115400-Israeli_peace_song"></span>... and for your constant fight against ref template errors, and missing links! --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Gerda_Arendt-20231126115400-Israeli_peace_song" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:54, 26 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20231126115400-Israeli_peace_song"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20231126115400-Israeli_peace_song"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Shalom_chaverim" data-mw-thread-id="h-Shalom_chaverim-Israeli_peace_song-20231127151500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Shalom_chaverim-Israeli_peace_song-20231127151500"></span>Shalom chaverim<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Shalom_chaverim-Israeli_peace_song-20231127151500"></span></h3></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#27_Nov" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20231127151500-Shalom_chaverim"></span>Today</a>: in memoriam <a href="/wiki/Jerome_Kohl" title="Jerome Kohl">Jerome Kohl</a> who said (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jerome_Kohl/Archive_6#In_Freundschaft" title="User talk:Jerome Kohl/Archive 6">In Freundschaft</a>): "and I hope that they have met again in the beyond and are making joyous music together". Can you perhaps help to music for <a href="/wiki/Draft:Shalom_chaverim" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Shalom chaverim">Draft:Shalom chaverim</a>? I struggle with the Auftakt, and didn't even try a round yet. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Gerda_Arendt-20231127151500-Shalom_chaverim" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:15, 27 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20231127151500-Shalom_chaverim"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20231127151500-Shalom_chaverim"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20231127231100-Gerda_Arendt-20231127151500"></span>I, too, miss Jerome often. // I made some changes to "Shalom chaverim" a few days ago, fixing the anacrusis (Auftakt) and adding lyrics. I'm not sure what else I can do. To have a round/canon played is very cumbersome using LilyPond, or any other notation program. All the parts need to be written out, and that score would overwhelm the Wikipedia article. As a first step, I can add numbers for the four cues (Einsätze). As a second step, I could notate the four parts and upload the resulting MIDI file to Commons and attach that to the score in the article. The question with that approach is: how many rounds does one use? Until the fourth voice has completed? Anyway, that's a lot of work, and the article is still a draft, and so many Kutsch/Riemens citations need fixing. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20231127231100-Gerda_Arendt-20231127151500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:11, 27 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20231127231100-Gerda_Arendt-20231127151500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20231127231100-Gerda_Arendt-20231127151500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20231127234000-Michael_Bednarek-20231127231100"></span>Thank you, Michael, and sorry that I didn't see your changes, - perhaps I failed to take the draft (not by me) on my watchlist, or I overlooked it on my watchlist (that I try to shorten ...). Anyway, it's great as it is, thank you! - I began <a href="/wiki/Langsamer_Satz" title="Langsamer Satz">Langsamer Satz</a> today, being the one on my to-do-list connecting to Jerome a bit. Too tired for more now, though. I heard it at the <a href="/wiki/Casals_Forum" title="Casals Forum">Casals Forum</a> that I recommend highly in case you happen to come to the area. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Gerda_Arendt-20231127234000-Michael_Bednarek-20231127231100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:40, 27 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20231127234000-Michael_Bednarek-20231127231100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20231127234000-Michael_Bednarek-20231127231100"></span></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Ernani" title="Ernani"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20231128121000-Michael_Bednarek-20231127231100"></span>Ernani</a> is linked from the Main page, lovely work by Viva-Verdi, - now marked as needing more (inline) citations. Do you happen to know which refs support the uncited paragraphs? --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Gerda_Arendt-20231128121000-Michael_Bednarek-20231127231100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:10, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20231128121000-Michael_Bednarek-20231127231100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20231128121000-Michael_Bednarek-20231127231100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20231130113400-Gerda_Arendt-20231128121000"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda</a>! I couldn't let the challenge of a round remain unanswered, so I put a simple version in <a href="/wiki/Draft:Shalom_chaverim" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Shalom chaverim">Draft:Shalom chaverim</a>. Just remove the version you don't like. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20231130113400-Gerda_Arendt-20231128121000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:34, 30 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20231130113400-Gerda_Arendt-20231128121000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20231130113400-Gerda_Arendt-20231128121000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Logo_UniSC.svc.svg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Logo_UniSC.svc.svg-20231222181800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Logo_UniSC.svc.svg-20231222181800"></span>Orphaned non-free image File:Logo UniSC.svc.svg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Logo_UniSC.svc.svg-20231222181800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-B-bot-20231222181800-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Logo_UniSC.svc.svg"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span title="⚠"><img alt="⚠" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/35px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/53px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/70px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span><figcaption>⚠</figcaption></figure><p> Thanks for uploading <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Logo_UniSC.svc.svg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Logo UniSC.svc.svg (page does not exist)">File:Logo UniSC.svc.svg</a></b>. 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Thank you. --<a href="/wiki/User:B-bot" title="User:B-bot">B-bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:B-bot" title="User talk:B-bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-B-bot-20231222181800-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Logo_UniSC.svc.svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 22 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-B-bot-20231222181800-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Logo_UniSC.svc.svg"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-B-bot-20231222181800-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Logo_UniSC.svc.svg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="FYI" data-mw-thread-id="h-FYI-20240101180800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-FYI-20240101180800"></span>FYI<span data-mw-comment-end="h-FYI-20240101180800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Graham87-20240101180800-FYI"></span>About a classical music spammer you've been reverting, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Hydrocolloid" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Hydrocolloid">Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Hydrocolloid</a>. Thanks for keeping an eye on that and setting me straight ... I didn't check the relevant diffs properly (checking diffs can be weird with <a href="/wiki/Screen_reader" title="Screen reader">screen readers</a>). The one time I *don't* check a user's contributions ... and this happens! <a href="/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham87</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Graham87-20240101180800-FYI" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:08, 1 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Graham87-20240101180800-FYI"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Graham87-20240101180800-FYI"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="It's_a_confirmed_version_of_the_voice" data-mw-thread-id="h-It's_a_confirmed_version_of_the_voice-20240104083900"><span id="It.27s_a_confirmed_version_of_the_voice"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-It's_a_confirmed_version_of_the_voice-20240104083900"></span>It's a confirmed version of the voice<span data-mw-comment-end="h-It's_a_confirmed_version_of_the_voice-20240104083900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nick31629-20240104083900-It's_a_confirmed_version_of_the_voice"></span>Hello, dear Michael Bednarek, if you see my <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elena_Mauti_Nunziata&diff=1191277069&oldid=1186155309">edits</a> are confirmed in relative's Italian <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Mauti_Nunziata" class="extiw" title="it:Elena Mauti Nunziata">version</a> of the same voice, due the fact I'm a relative of the person's voice. Pls go to see, thanks buddy ;) <a href="/wiki/User:Nick31629" title="User:Nick31629">Nick31629</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nick31629" title="User talk:Nick31629">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Nick31629-20240104083900-It's_a_confirmed_version_of_the_voice" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:39, 4 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nick31629-20240104083900-It's_a_confirmed_version_of_the_voice"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nick31629-20240104083900-It's_a_confirmed_version_of_the_voice"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240104104500-Nick31629-20240104083900"></span>Your edit at the Italian version of <a href="/wiki/Elena_Mauti_Nunziata" title="Elena Mauti Nunziata">Elena Mauti Nunziata</a> is irrelevant. Wikipedia relies on reliable published sources, and they all give 1946 as her year of birth. Please restore the previous version of that article. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20240104104500-Nick31629-20240104083900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:45, 4 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240104104500-Nick31629-20240104083900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240104104500-Nick31629-20240104083900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nick31629-20240104111600-Michael_Bednarek-20240104104500"></span>Please then, if you know better than me (my mother's great aunt) how is that the year is 1946 instead 1944 how herself told me, some days ago? If you can give me a solution, then I'll change, else I'll do nothing. If you can't give me a peaceful solution, and you want change, we can talk with an administrator, instead of doing edit war. I'm coming in peace, anyway--<a href="/wiki/User:Nick31629" title="User:Nick31629">Nick31629</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nick31629" title="User talk:Nick31629">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Nick31629-20240104111600-Michael_Bednarek-20240104104500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:16, 4 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nick31629-20240104111600-Michael_Bednarek-20240104104500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nick31629-20240104111600-Michael_Bednarek-20240104104500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240104123700-Nick31629-20240104111600"></span>I don't know any better; I just look at published reliable sources. Please read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability" title="Wikipedia:Verifiability">Wikipedia:Verifiability</a>. I have now restored the previous version. Please don't change it again without citing sources. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20240104123700-Nick31629-20240104111600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:37, 4 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240104123700-Nick31629-20240104111600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240104123700-Nick31629-20240104111600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Notice_of_edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Notice_of_edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion-20240104130100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Notice_of_edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion-20240104130100"></span>Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Notice_of_edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion-20240104130100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nick31629-20240104130100-Notice_of_edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/25px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/38px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/50px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span> Hello. 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(this is my first time being thanked!) </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Hym3242" title="User:Hym3242">Hym3242</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hym3242" title="User talk:Hym3242">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Hym3242-20240309135100-A_kitten_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:51, 9 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hym3242-20240309135100-A_kitten_for_you!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hym3242-20240309135100-A_kitten_for_you!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240309141100-Hym3242-20240309135100"></span>You're welcome. I don't quite remember for which of your edits I thanked you, but I assume it was for some disimprovements by an anonymous editor at <i><a href="/wiki/Candide_(operetta)" title="Candide (operetta)">Candide</a></i> and <a href="/wiki/Leonard_Bernstein" title="Leonard Bernstein">Leonard Bernstein</a>. I don't "<a href="/wiki/H:THANK" class="mw-redirect" title="H:THANK">thank</a>" often, but I was on the verge of reverting those edits myself, and I was glad you did. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20240309141100-Hym3242-20240309135100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:11, 9 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240309141100-Hym3242-20240309135100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240309141100-Hym3242-20240309135100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hym3242-20240309142000-Michael_Bednarek-20240309141100"></span>Indeed they were! In addition to reverting them (politely), we should also help them know the rules and conventions, since most non-vandalizing anonymous editors do seem to want to do something useful but failed to do so. What message do you think should I leave on their talk page? <a href="/wiki/User:Hym3242" title="User:Hym3242">Hym3242</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hym3242" title="User talk:Hym3242">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Hym3242-20240309142000-Michael_Bednarek-20240309141100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:20, 9 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hym3242-20240309142000-Michael_Bednarek-20240309141100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hym3242-20240309142000-Michael_Bednarek-20240309141100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240309143200-Hym3242-20240309142000"></span>When I was sufficiently upset by edits, I picked templates from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_index/User_talk_namespace" title="Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace">Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace</a>, but I mellowed (or tired) enough, not to that often anymore. But if I read your intentions correctly, you probably have to hand-craft what is appropriate in the circumstances. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20240309143200-Hym3242-20240309142000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:32, 9 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240309143200-Hym3242-20240309142000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240309143200-Hym3242-20240309142000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hym3242-20240309144800-Michael_Bednarek-20240309143200"></span>Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Hym3242" title="User:Hym3242">Hym3242</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hym3242" title="User talk:Hym3242">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Hym3242-20240309144800-Michael_Bednarek-20240309143200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:48, 9 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hym3242-20240309144800-Michael_Bednarek-20240309143200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hym3242-20240309144800-Michael_Bednarek-20240309143200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thank_you_..." data-mw-thread-id="h-Thank_you_...-20240308215200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thank_you_...-20240308215200"></span>Thank you ...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thank_you_...-20240308215200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240308215200-Thank_you_..."></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1257001546"><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);; border-radius:0.5em;"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Yellow_ball_flowers,_levada,_Madeira.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Yellow_ball_flowers%2C_levada%2C_Madeira.jpg/180px-Yellow_ball_flowers%2C_levada%2C_Madeira.jpg" decoding="async" width="180" height="135" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Yellow_ball_flowers%2C_levada%2C_Madeira.jpg/270px-Yellow_ball_flowers%2C_levada%2C_Madeira.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Yellow_ball_flowers%2C_levada%2C_Madeira.jpg/360px-Yellow_ball_flowers%2C_levada%2C_Madeira.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4000" data-file-height="3000"/></a></span></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header"><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Top" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Top">story</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#Music" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">music</a> · <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Places_and_songs_2024#17_Mar" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2024">places</a></th></tr></tbody></table> <p>... for a constructive comment about the value of a list of compositions! -- <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240308215200-Thank_you_..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:52, 8 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240308215200-Thank_you_..."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240308215200-Thank_you_..."></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240320195800-Thank_you_..."></span>I uploaded vacation pics (from back home), at least the first day, - and remember <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#20_Mar" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Aribert Reimann</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240320195800-Thank_you_..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:58, 20 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240320195800-Thank_you_..."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240320195800-Thank_you_..."></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240329200300-Thank_you_..."></span>I <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#Good_Friday" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">listen to Bach's St John Passion today</a>, - 300 years after it was first performed. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240329200300-Thank_you_..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:03, 29 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240329200300-Thank_you_..."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240329200300-Thank_you_..."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:Klingon-language_operas_has_been_nominated_for_merging" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Klingon-language_operas_has_been_nominated_for_merging-20240401130800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Klingon-language_operas_has_been_nominated_for_merging-20240401130800"></span><a href="/wiki/Category:Klingon-language_operas" title="Category:Klingon-language operas">Category:Klingon-language operas</a> has been nominated for merging<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Klingon-language_operas_has_been_nominated_for_merging-20240401130800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nederlandse_Leeuw-20240401130800-Category:Klingon-language_operas_has_been_nominated_for_merging"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span></span></div><p><a href="/wiki/Category:Klingon-language_operas" title="Category:Klingon-language operas">Category:Klingon-language operas</a> has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorization" title="Wikipedia:Categorization">categorization</a> guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_1#Category:Klingon-language_operas" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 1">the category's entry</a></b> on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion">categories for discussion</a> page. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Nederlandse_Leeuw" title="User:Nederlandse Leeuw">NLeeuw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nederlandse_Leeuw#top" title="User talk:Nederlandse Leeuw">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Nederlandse_Leeuw-20240401130800-Category:Klingon-language_operas_has_been_nominated_for_merging" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:08, 1 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nederlandse_Leeuw-20240401130800-Category:Klingon-language_operas_has_been_nominated_for_merging"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nederlandse_Leeuw-20240401130800-Category:Klingon-language_operas_has_been_nominated_for_merging"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Magic_Flute_ogg_files" data-mw-thread-id="h-Magic_Flute_ogg_files-20240313044200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Magic_Flute_ogg_files-20240313044200"></span>Magic Flute ogg files<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Magic_Flute_ogg_files-20240313044200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_vandegrift-20240313044200-Magic_Flute_ogg_files"></span>I borrowed your <a href="/wiki/Template:Listen" title="Template:Listen">Template:Listen</a>, but put it in three columns. The title is on top of the listen bar, which links to the file's location on commons. The text of the title reveals who is singing (Tamino, ect.) Underneath the listen bar, I added a one line translation of the first words of the song. I now understand that the German text is a far more important label, but by clicking the top link gets to the Commons file where enough of the German is given in the filename for a Google search. See <a href="/wiki/User:Guy_vandegrift/sandbox/sandbox" title="User:Guy vandegrift/sandbox/sandbox">User:Guy vandegrift/sandbox/sandbox</a>. As of this writing, I have not converted all songs to this format. ... Also, if you don't want to place this on <a href="/wiki/The_Magic_Flute" title="The Magic Flute">The Magic Flute</a>, I suggest the much smaller page at <a href="/wiki/Ferenc_Fricsay" title="Ferenc Fricsay">Ferenc Fricsay</a> (then link out to that location.) ... One more thing: The translation under the bar can be a link out to more info about the song.--<a href="/wiki/User:Guy_vandegrift" title="User:Guy vandegrift">Guy vandegrift</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_vandegrift" title="User talk:Guy vandegrift">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Guy_vandegrift-20240313044200-Magic_Flute_ogg_files" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:42, 13 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_vandegrift-20240313044200-Magic_Flute_ogg_files"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_vandegrift-20240313044200-Magic_Flute_ogg_files"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240313044500-Guy_vandegrift-20240313044200"></span>It's not <em>my</em> template. Interesting presentation in your sandbox, but I don't think it's suitable for <i>The Magic Flute</i>. I never edited Fricsay's article, so I have no opinion there. However, those <i>Magic Flute</i> recordings on Commons ought to be placed in <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ferenc_Fricsay" class="extiw" title="c:Category:Ferenc Fricsay">his category</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20240313044500-Guy_vandegrift-20240313044200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:45, 13 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240313044500-Guy_vandegrift-20240313044200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240313044500-Guy_vandegrift-20240313044200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_vandegrift-20240405021600-Michael_Bednarek-20240313044500"></span>I thought of you when I was trying to crop an image and saw this <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Extended_image_syntax#Sound_files" title="Wikipedia:Extended image syntax">Wikipedia:Extended_image_syntax#Sound_files</a>--<a href="/wiki/User:Guy_vandegrift" title="User:Guy vandegrift">Guy vandegrift</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_vandegrift" title="User talk:Guy vandegrift">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Guy_vandegrift-20240405021600-Michael_Bednarek-20240313044500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:16, 5 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_vandegrift-20240405021600-Michael_Bednarek-20240313044500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_vandegrift-20240405021600-Michael_Bednarek-20240313044500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="apologies_regarding_{{ill}}_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-apologies_regarding_{{ill}}_discussion-20240405174300"><span id="apologies_regarding_.7B.7Bill.7D.7D_discussion"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-apologies_regarding_{{ill}}_discussion-20240405174300"></span>apologies regarding <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Ill" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Ill">ill</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-apologies_regarding_{{ill}}_discussion-20240405174300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fabrickator-20240405174300-apologies_regarding_{{ill}}_discussion"></span>The response to your input at <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Interlanguage_link" title="Template talk:Interlanguage link">Template talk:Interlanguage link</a> struck me as unduly harsh. I'm of course not responsible for that, aside from the fact that the explanation I had provided was not as clear as it might have been, other than in the sense that I applied what I had determined to be a "best practice" ... or at least a <i>better</i> practice (regardless of whether there's a reasonable basis for such a claim), plus I'm sure my description of the situation left something to be desired. Sigh. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Fabrickator&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Fabrickator (page does not exist)">Fabrickator</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fabrickator" title="User talk:Fabrickator">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Fabrickator-20240405174300-apologies_regarding_{{ill}}_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:43, 5 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fabrickator-20240405174300-apologies_regarding_{{ill}}_discussion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fabrickator-20240405174300-apologies_regarding_{{ill}}_discussion"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="76.91.229.226" data-mw-thread-id="h-76.91.229.226-20240415190800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-76.91.229.226-20240415190800"></span>76.91.229.226<span data-mw-comment-end="h-76.91.229.226-20240415190800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2600:1001:B023:16E5:3CAB:92ED:A96B:BC5D-20240415190800-76.91.229.226"></span>Hi, can you permanently ban 76.91.229.226 from Wikipedia. It changed Mary Costa’s ancestry from Italian to Portuguese. 76.91.229.226 is violating Wikipedia’s guidelines. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:1001:B023:16E5:3CAB:92ED:A96B:BC5D" title="Special:Contributions/2600:1001:B023:16E5:3CAB:92ED:A96B:BC5D">2600:1001:B023:16E5:3CAB:92ED:A96B:BC5D</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2600:1001:B023:16E5:3CAB:92ED:A96B:BC5D&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2600:1001:B023:16E5:3CAB:92ED:A96B:BC5D (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-2600:1001:B023:16E5:3CAB:92ED:A96B:BC5D-20240415190800-76.91.229.226" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:08, 15 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2600:1001:B023:16E5:3CAB:92ED:A96B:BC5D-20240415190800-76.91.229.226"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2600:1001:B023:16E5:3CAB:92ED:A96B:BC5D-20240415190800-76.91.229.226"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240416021900-2600:1001:B023:16E5:3CAB:92ED:A96B:BC5D-20240415190800"></span>I'm not an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ADMIN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ADMIN">administrator</a>, so I can't <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BAN">ban</a> (or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLOCK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLOCK">block</a>) anyone. The disruption you noticed at <a href="/wiki/Mary_Costa" title="Mary Costa">Mary Costa</a> is usually dealt with by watchers of that page, and that seems to be the case here. Persistently disruptive editing is often detected by an administrator who will then take appropriate action, most likely a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PROTECT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PROTECT">protection</a> of some sort. The proper venue to raise your concerns is either <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI">WP:ANI</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection" title="Wikipedia:Requests for page protection">Wikipedia:Requests for page protection</a>. You can help, too, by registering a username which will allow you to monitor changes on your <a href="/wiki/H:W" class="mw-redirect" title="H:W">watchlist</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20240416021900-2600:1001:B023:16E5:3CAB:92ED:A96B:BC5D-20240415190800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:19, 16 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240416021900-2600:1001:B023:16E5:3CAB:92ED:A96B:BC5D-20240415190800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240416021900-2600:1001:B023:16E5:3CAB:92ED:A96B:BC5D-20240415190800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="May_music" data-mw-thread-id="h-May_music-20240522201900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-May_music-20240522201900"></span>May music<span data-mw-comment-end="h-May_music-20240522201900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240522201900-May_music"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1257001546"><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);; border-radius:0.5em;"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Hawthorn_in_bloom,_Ehrenbach.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Hawthorn_in_bloom%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg/180px-Hawthorn_in_bloom%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg" decoding="async" width="180" height="135" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Hawthorn_in_bloom%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg/270px-Hawthorn_in_bloom%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Hawthorn_in_bloom%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg/360px-Hawthorn_in_bloom%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3878" data-file-height="2908"/></a></span></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header"><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Top" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Top">story</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#Music" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">music</a> · <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Places_and_songs_2024#16_May" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2024">places</a></th></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#22_May" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Today's story</a> mentions a concert I loved to hear (DYK) and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old (OTD). - Enjoy being away from a place where your simple reasoning for an opera singer's notability is not heard ;) -- <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240522201900-May_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:19, 22 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240522201900-May_music"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240522201900-May_music"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="What_about_of_George_Alexander_Macfarren's_Helvellyn_(1864)" data-mw-thread-id="h-What_about_of_George_Alexander_Macfarren's_Helvellyn_(1864)-20240614203100"><span id="What_about_of_George_Alexander_Macfarren.27s_Helvellyn_.281864.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-What_about_of_George_Alexander_Macfarren's_Helvellyn_(1864)-20240614203100"></span>What about of George Alexander Macfarren's Helvellyn (1864)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-What_about_of_George_Alexander_Macfarren's_Helvellyn_(1864)-20240614203100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-176.32.19.44-20240614203100-What_about_of_George_Alexander_Macfarren's_Helvellyn_(1864)"></span>I am sure that Macfarren's Helvellyn is one of the most famous English operas of the 19th century. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/176.32.19.44" title="Special:Contributions/176.32.19.44">176.32.19.44</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:176.32.19.44&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:176.32.19.44 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-176.32.19.44-20240614203100-What_about_of_George_Alexander_Macfarren's_Helvellyn_(1864)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:31, 14 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-176.32.19.44-20240614203100-What_about_of_George_Alexander_Macfarren's_Helvellyn_(1864)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-176.32.19.44-20240614203100-What_about_of_George_Alexander_Macfarren's_Helvellyn_(1864)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240615005600-176.32.19.44-20240614203100"></span>What about it? Do you have a question or proposal? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20240615005600-176.32.19.44-20240614203100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:56, 15 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240615005600-176.32.19.44-20240614203100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240615005600-176.32.19.44-20240614203100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-176.32.19.44-20240615122200-Michael_Bednarek-20240615005600"></span>Yes! Look at <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://operastory.co.uk/helvellyn-by-george-alexander-macfarren/">https://operastory.co.uk/helvellyn-by-george-alexander-macfarren/</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/176.32.19.44" title="Special:Contributions/176.32.19.44">176.32.19.44</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:176.32.19.44&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:176.32.19.44 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-176.32.19.44-20240615122200-Michael_Bednarek-20240615005600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:22, 15 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-176.32.19.44-20240615122200-Michael_Bednarek-20240615005600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-176.32.19.44-20240615122200-Michael_Bednarek-20240615005600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-176.32.19.44-20240615122900-Michael_Bednarek-20240615005600"></span>So, we can add Macfarren's Helvellyn at the List of prominent operas? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/176.32.19.44" title="Special:Contributions/176.32.19.44">176.32.19.44</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:176.32.19.44&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:176.32.19.44 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-176.32.19.44-20240615122900-Michael_Bednarek-20240615005600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:29, 15 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-176.32.19.44-20240615122900-Michael_Bednarek-20240615005600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-176.32.19.44-20240615122900-Michael_Bednarek-20240615005600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240615124200-176.32.19.44-20240615122900"></span>The article you linked clearly points out that it's not a <a href="/wiki/List_of_prominent_operas" title="List of prominent operas">prominent opera</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20240615124200-176.32.19.44-20240615122900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:42, 15 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240615124200-176.32.19.44-20240615122900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240615124200-176.32.19.44-20240615122900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-176.32.19.44-20240615132400-Michael_Bednarek-20240615124200"></span>So, is it a forgotten opera? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/176.32.19.44" title="Special:Contributions/176.32.19.44">176.32.19.44</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:176.32.19.44&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:176.32.19.44 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-176.32.19.44-20240615132400-Michael_Bednarek-20240615124200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:24, 15 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-176.32.19.44-20240615132400-Michael_Bednarek-20240615124200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-176.32.19.44-20240615132400-Michael_Bednarek-20240615124200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-176.32.19.44-20240615191500-Michael_Bednarek-20240615124200"></span>And anyway, I wish it were a more famous British opera <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/176.32.19.44" title="Special:Contributions/176.32.19.44">176.32.19.44</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:176.32.19.44&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:176.32.19.44 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-176.32.19.44-20240615191500-Michael_Bednarek-20240615124200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:15, 15 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-176.32.19.44-20240615191500-Michael_Bednarek-20240615124200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-176.32.19.44-20240615191500-Michael_Bednarek-20240615124200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""better_source_needed"_tag_on_Richard_Strauss" data-mw-thread-id="h-"better_source_needed"_tag_on_Richard_Strauss-20240615224500"><span id=".22better_source_needed.22_tag_on_Richard_Strauss"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"better_source_needed"_tag_on_Richard_Strauss-20240615224500"></span>"better source needed" tag on <a href="/wiki/Richard_Strauss" title="Richard Strauss">Richard Strauss</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-"better_source_needed"_tag_on_Richard_Strauss-20240615224500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Softlavender-20240615224500-"better_source_needed"_tag_on_Richard_Strauss"></span>Hi Michael, I have requested the removal of a "better source needed" tag you added to a quotation on <a href="/wiki/Richard_Strauss" title="Richard Strauss">Richard Strauss</a> back in 2020 <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Richard_Strauss&diff=prev&oldid=963555696">[1]</a> (quotation from his journals about being appointed to the <i>Reichsmusikkammer</i>), since the broadcast it is cited to is currently listenable for free online (labeled Friday, June 14, 2024) for the next 13 days at <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.wfmt.com/programs/exploring-music/">https://www.wfmt.com/programs/exploring-music/</a>. The quote is at about one-and-a-half minutes in. </p><p>The talkpage thread is <a href="/wiki/Talk:Richard_Strauss#"better_source_needed"_tag_on_Strauss_quote" title="Talk:Richard Strauss">Talk:Richard Strauss#"better source needed" tag on Strauss quote</a>. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Softlavender-20240615224500-"better_source_needed"_tag_on_Richard_Strauss" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:45, 15 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Softlavender-20240615224500-"better_source_needed"_tag_on_Richard_Strauss"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Softlavender-20240615224500-"better_source_needed"_tag_on_Richard_Strauss"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240616003100-Softlavender-20240615224500"></span>Responded there. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20240616003100-Softlavender-20240615224500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:31, 16 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240616003100-Softlavender-20240615224500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240616003100-Softlavender-20240615224500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="For_your_amusement" data-mw-thread-id="h-For_your_amusement-20240711184100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-For_your_amusement-20240711184100"></span>For your amusement<span data-mw-comment-end="h-For_your_amusement-20240711184100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NebY-20240711184100-For_your_amusement"></span>If you haven't already seen it, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/article/2024/jul/07/the-moment-i-knew-we-could-barely-make-eye-contact-because-of-the-chemistry-radiating-between-us">this</a> might amuse you. Years ago, you undid<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Simon_Tedeschi&diff=prev&oldid=663908305">[2]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Simon_Tedeschi&diff=prev&oldid=672382255">[3]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Simon_Tedeschi&diff=prev&oldid=676348802">[4]</a> some removals<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Simon_Tedeschi&diff=prev&oldid=663863209">[5]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Simon_Tedeschi&diff=prev&oldid=668412052">[6]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Simon_Tedeschi&diff=prev&oldid=676346581">[7]</a> of a sourced DOB from a BLP - but it all turned out well. <a href="/wiki/User:NebY" title="User:NebY">NebY</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NebY" title="User talk:NebY">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-NebY-20240711184100-For_your_amusement" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:41, 11 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NebY-20240711184100-For_your_amusement"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NebY-20240711184100-For_your_amusement"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240712010100-NebY-20240711184100"></span>No, I hadn't seen that; thank you. I like <a href="/wiki/Simon_Tedeschi" title="Simon Tedeschi">Simon Tedeschi</a> a lot, and most recently saw him with <a href="/wiki/John_Bell_(Australian_actor)" title="John Bell (Australian actor)">John Bell</a>, whom I also like a lot, in a stage reading of some Mozart letters. They both are magnificent in their field, and wonderful people. As for his <i>Guardian</i> column: I hope I haven't upset him too much, but Wikipedia has some rules, no?😀 Another thing that turned out well was that he replaced my horrible mugshots of him, since deleted, with a better picture. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20240712010100-NebY-20240711184100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:01, 12 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240712010100-NebY-20240711184100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240712010100-NebY-20240711184100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Really_confused_by_reversion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Really_confused_by_reversion-20240720152200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Really_confused_by_reversion-20240720152200"></span>Really confused by reversion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Really_confused_by_reversion-20240720152200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ELSchissel-20240720152200-Really_confused_by_reversion"></span>Apologies- " restore link to nl:Symfonie nr. 4 (Rangström); fix CS1 errors; MOS:DASH; German WP is not a valid source; use {{IMSLP}} for IMSLP" - what? :) <a href="/wiki/User:ELSchissel" title="User:ELSchissel">ELSchissel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ELSchissel" title="User talk:ELSchissel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-ELSchissel-20240720152200-Really_confused_by_reversion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:22, 20 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ELSchissel-20240720152200-Really_confused_by_reversion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ELSchissel-20240720152200-Really_confused_by_reversion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240720153300-ELSchissel-20240720152200"></span>It would help if you included a link to the article concerned. I suspect you mean <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1234654785" title="Special:Diff/1234654785">this edit</a> at <a href="/wiki/List_of_symphonies_in_D_minor" title="List of symphonies in D minor">List of symphonies in D minor</a>. I don't understand your confusion. You removed an interlanguage link, and I didn't see why, so I restored it. I then made some further changes that I documented in the edit summary. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20240720153300-ELSchissel-20240720152200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:33, 20 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240720153300-ELSchissel-20240720152200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240720153300-ELSchissel-20240720152200"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ELSchissel-20240720153700-Really_confused_by_reversion"></span>Your reversion <i>removed</i> the nl Wikipedia link I added to Symphony 4 (Rangström). I don't recall removing anything. But maybe I'm wrong, I'll check... <a href="/wiki/User:ELSchissel" title="User:ELSchissel">ELSchissel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ELSchissel" title="User talk:ELSchissel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-ELSchissel-20240720153700-Really_confused_by_reversion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:37, 20 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ELSchissel-20240720153700-Really_confused_by_reversion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ELSchissel-20240720153700-Really_confused_by_reversion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ELSchissel-20240720154500-ELSchissel-20240720153700"></span>Near as I can tell, looking at the edit, you or someone also replaced a number of n-dashes with m-dashes for ranges, which I think is quite the stylistic solecism, but that's another matter... though it <i>is</i> weird that a reversion of a small edit (in which I added one wikilink) had a rather large consequence like that. <a href="/wiki/User:ELSchissel" title="User:ELSchissel">ELSchissel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ELSchissel" title="User talk:ELSchissel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-ELSchissel-20240720154500-ELSchissel-20240720153700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:45, 20 July 2024 (UTC)</a> (edit: ah, I see- it says revert, then fix cs1 errors, then, etc.)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ELSchissel-20240720154500-ELSchissel-20240720153700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ELSchissel-20240720154500-ELSchissel-20240720153700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240720154900-ELSchissel-20240720154500"></span>(ec x2) Now it's my turn to apologise: Your're right. I misread the diff and will restore your edit in a minute. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20240720154900-ELSchissel-20240720154500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:49, 20 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240720154900-ELSchissel-20240720154500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240720154900-ELSchissel-20240720154500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ELSchissel-20240720155000-Michael_Bednarek-20240720154900"></span>no worries. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:ELSchissel" title="User:ELSchissel">ELSchissel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ELSchissel" title="User talk:ELSchissel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-ELSchissel-20240720155000-Michael_Bednarek-20240720154900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:50, 20 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ELSchissel-20240720155000-Michael_Bednarek-20240720154900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ELSchissel-20240720155000-Michael_Bednarek-20240720154900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="August_music" data-mw-thread-id="h-August_music-20240813142100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-August_music-20240813142100"></span>August music<span data-mw-comment-end="h-August_music-20240813142100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240813142100-August_music"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1257001546"><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);; border-radius:0.5em;"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Flower_bed_of_perennials,_Idstein.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Flower_bed_of_perennials%2C_Idstein.jpg/180px-Flower_bed_of_perennials%2C_Idstein.jpg" decoding="async" width="180" height="135" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Flower_bed_of_perennials%2C_Idstein.jpg/270px-Flower_bed_of_perennials%2C_Idstein.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Flower_bed_of_perennials%2C_Idstein.jpg/360px-Flower_bed_of_perennials%2C_Idstein.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3316" data-file-height="2485"/></a></span></td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Thank you for your steady improvements popping up on my watchlist! - On 13 August, <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#13_Aug" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Bach's cantata was 300 years old</a>, and the image one. The cantata is an extraordinary piece, using the chorale's text and famous melody more than others in <a href="/wiki/Chorale_cantata_cycle" title="Chorale cantata cycle">the cycle</a>. It's nice to have not only a recent death, but also this "birthday" on the Main page. And a rainbow in my places. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240813142100-August_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:21, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240813142100-August_music"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240813142100-August_music"></span> </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#25_Aug" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240825133200-August_music"></span>Sunday story</a> about another of Bach's chorale cantatas, listen, as I listened to <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Images_2024#22_Aug" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2024">two impressive very different choral concerts</a>, - music by 16 composers. In the latest cloudy pictures: a hidden deer, a cat and a blaze of a sunset. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240825133200-August_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:32, 25 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240825133200-August_music"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240825133200-August_music"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Australian_newspaper_reach" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Australian_newspaper_reach-20240924204200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Australian_newspaper_reach-20240924204200"></span>The Australian newspaper reach<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Australian_newspaper_reach-20240924204200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Utka_225-20240924204200-The_Australian_newspaper_reach"></span>I got my numbers from there official website </p><p>Here is the link you can checkout yourself </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.newscorpaustralia.com/brands/the-australian/">https://www.newscorpaustralia.com/brands/the-australian/</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Utka_225" title="User:Utka 225">Utka 225</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Utka_225" title="User talk:Utka 225">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Utka_225-20240924204200-The_Australian_newspaper_reach" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:42, 24 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Utka_225-20240924204200-The_Australian_newspaper_reach"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Utka_225-20240924204200-The_Australian_newspaper_reach"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240925001700-Utka_225-20240924204200"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Utka_225" title="User:Utka 225">Utka 225</a>. a) You did not cite that source in the article for <i><a href="/wiki/The_Australian" title="The Australian">The Australian</a></i> when you changed the numbers, and you misquoted the relevant period (you wrote "Sep 2024" but the source gives June 2024. Worse, you kept the old citations which had very different numbers. If you change facts in an article, you must provide citations that support those facts. b) Newscorp is not an independent source in this matter, so the the citation you give fails the requirements of our guideline <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a>, specifically <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:INDEPENDENT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:INDEPENDENT">WP:INDEPENDENT</a>. c) When I reverted your edit, I also inspected the existing sources for the previously quoted figures and found them to be wrong, so I corrected them. Your reversals of my edit re-instated those wrong figures.</dd> <dd>I agree that the circulation of <i>The Australian</i> should be updated to current figures, but per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ONUS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ONUS">WP:ONUS</a>, the editor making such updates must provide the necessary citations. For reasons a) to c), I will revert your edit again. Any further reversals by you without providing adequate citations will be treated as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DISRUPTIVE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DISRUPTIVE">WP:DISRUPTIVE</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EDITWAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EDITWAR">WP:EDITWAR</a> and may result in you being <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLOCK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLOCK">blocked</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20240925001700-Utka_225-20240924204200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:17, 25 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240925001700-Utka_225-20240924204200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20240925001700-Utka_225-20240924204200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="September_music" data-mw-thread-id="h-September_music-20240906215000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-September_music-20240906215000"></span>September music<span data-mw-comment-end="h-September_music-20240906215000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240906215000-September_music"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1257001546"><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);; border-radius:0.5em;"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Sunflower_against_sky,_Ehrenbach.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Sunflower_against_sky%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg/180px-Sunflower_against_sky%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg" decoding="async" width="180" height="135" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Sunflower_against_sky%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg/270px-Sunflower_against_sky%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Sunflower_against_sky%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg/360px-Sunflower_against_sky%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3596" data-file-height="2698"/></a></span></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header"><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Top" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Top">story</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#Music" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">music</a> · <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Places_and_songs_2024#19_Sep" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2024">places</a></th></tr></tbody></table> <p>Thank you for refreshing <sarcasm>! - Recommended reading today: <a href="/wiki/Frye_Fire" title="Frye Fire">Frye Fire</a>, by sadly missed <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vami_IV" title="User talk:Vami IV">Vami_IV</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240906215000-September_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:50, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240906215000-September_music"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240906215000-September_music"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240913131200-September_music"></span>Today is <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#13_Sep" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Schoenberg's 150th birthday</a>! On display, portrayed by <a href="/wiki/Egon_Schiele" title="Egon Schiele">Egon Schiele</a>, with music from <a href="/wiki/Moses_und_Aron" title="Moses und Aron">Moses und Aron</a>, and with two DYK hooks, one from 2010 and another from 2014; the latter, about his 40th birthday, appeared on his 140th birthday, which made me happy then and now again. - See <i>places</i> for a stunning sunrise, on the day <a href="/wiki/Anton_Bruckner" title="Anton Bruckner">Bruckner</a>'s 200th birthday was celebrated (just a few days late). --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240913131200-September_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:12, 13 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240913131200-September_music"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240913131200-September_music"></span> </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#25_Sep" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240925122700-September_music"></span>My story today</a> features a pic I took from my position in the choir, I can also offer varied delightful <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#Music" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">music</a>, some from Venice, also with pics I took, - note the rose in the clarinet ;) - Can't believe the Hartmann piece has no article, not even in German. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240925122700-September_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:27, 25 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240925122700-September_music"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240925122700-September_music"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thank_you_for_your_help_with_score_and_LilyPond" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thank_you_for_your_help_with_score_and_LilyPond-20240929165500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thank_you_for_your_help_with_score_and_LilyPond-20240929165500"></span>Thank you for your help with score and LilyPond<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thank_you_for_your_help_with_score_and_LilyPond-20240929165500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trackerwannabe-20240929165500-Thank_you_for_your_help_with_score_and_LilyPond"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Tournesol.png/33px-Tournesol.png" decoding="async" width="33" height="33" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Tournesol.png/50px-Tournesol.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Tournesol.png/66px-Tournesol.png 2x" data-file-width="488" data-file-height="493"/></span></span> Thank you for <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trackerwannabe/Examples:Music_Pentatonic_(Gamelan)#Omit_LilyPond_barlines" title="User talk:Trackerwannabe/Examples:Music Pentatonic (Gamelan)"> your</a> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Trackerwannabe&diff=prev&oldid=1248373509">help</a></span> with the score template and with LilyPond. I'm still trying to wrap my head around them, and I appreciate your pointers. They help. <a href="/wiki/User:Trackerwannabe" title="User:Trackerwannabe">Trackerwannabe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trackerwannabe" title="User talk:Trackerwannabe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Trackerwannabe-20240929165500-Thank_you_for_your_help_with_score_and_LilyPond" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:55, 29 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trackerwannabe-20240929165500-Thank_you_for_your_help_with_score_and_LilyPond"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trackerwannabe-20240929165500-Thank_you_for_your_help_with_score_and_LilyPond"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Osborne_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Osborne_page-20241011173000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Osborne_page-20241011173000"></span>Osborne page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Osborne_page-20241011173000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Opus33-20241011173000-Osborne_page"></span>Hello Michael, </p><p>Thanks for fixing my formatting; I need to stop being a Luddite and do this stuff myself. </p><p>With regard to Osborne page, I suspect we are seeing different versions on line. Here is the page I was looking at: </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://books.google.com/books?id=QpUoBgAAQBAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&printsec=frontcover&dq=osborne+concert+song+companion&hl=en#v=onepage&q=adelaide&f=false">https://books.google.com/books?id=QpUoBgAAQBAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&printsec=frontcover&dq=osborne+concert+song+companion&hl=en#v=onepage&q=adelaide&f=false</a> </p><p>With thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Opus33" title="User:Opus33">Opus33</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Opus33" title="User talk:Opus33">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Opus33-20241011173000-Osborne_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:30, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Opus33-20241011173000-Osborne_page"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Opus33-20241011173000-Osborne_page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Opus33" title="User:Opus33"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20241012020000-Opus33-20241011173000"></span>Opus33</a>, you're correct. I'm very sorry and embarrassed. The preview I get from <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://books.google.com/books?id=QpUoBgAAQBAJ&pg=PA22">https://books.google.com/books?id=QpUoBgAAQBAJ&pg=PA22</a> shows the whole page 22, and the paragraph at the bottom ends indeed with [<a href="/wiki/Adelaide_(Beethoven)" title="Adelaide (Beethoven)">Adelaide</a> is] "a <i>bel canto</i> aria in disguise, with its gentle opening theme and ecstatic cabaletta-like conclusion." Thanks for querying my edit, and more apologies. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20241012020000-Opus33-20241011173000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:00, 12 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20241012020000-Opus33-20241011173000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20241012020000-Opus33-20241011173000"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Opus33-20241012050200-Michael_Bednarek-20241012020000"></span>No worries! It didn't even occur to me to be offended. Please note: I really appreciate everything you do to monitor and upgrade article quality. The errors you fix must hugely outnumber the errors you commit, so we're way ahead in the long run. :=) <a href="/wiki/User:Opus33" title="User:Opus33">Opus33</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Opus33" title="User talk:Opus33">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Opus33-20241012050200-Michael_Bednarek-20241012020000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:02, 12 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Opus33-20241012050200-Michael_Bednarek-20241012020000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Opus33-20241012050200-Michael_Bednarek-20241012020000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Franz_Rausch" data-mw-thread-id="h-Franz_Rausch-20241013035200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Franz_Rausch-20241013035200"></span>Franz Rausch<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Franz_Rausch-20241013035200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WQUlrich-20241013035200-Franz_Rausch"></span>The link is to a disambiguation page for the name "Rausch". Doesn't that qualify? <a href="/wiki/User:WQUlrich" title="User:WQUlrich">WQUlrich</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WQUlrich" title="User talk:WQUlrich">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-WQUlrich-20241013035200-Franz_Rausch" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:52, 13 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WQUlrich-20241013035200-Franz_Rausch"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WQUlrich-20241013035200-Franz_Rausch"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20241013035900-WQUlrich-20241013035200"></span>Re: <a href="/wiki/Franz_Rausch" title="Franz Rausch">Franz Rausch</a>: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ORPH#Criteria" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ORPH">WP:ORPH#Criteria</a> explicitly excludes disambiguation pages. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20241013035900-WQUlrich-20241013035200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:59, 13 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20241013035900-WQUlrich-20241013035200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20241013035900-WQUlrich-20241013035200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WQUlrich-20241013040500-Michael_Bednarek-20241013035900"></span>Too bad. I don't think there are going to be any other options. Unless I can work him into the article about Carl Haunold, who painted his portrait. That's what brought me to his article, <a href="/wiki/User:WQUlrich" title="User:WQUlrich">WQUlrich</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WQUlrich" title="User talk:WQUlrich">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-WQUlrich-20241013040500-Michael_Bednarek-20241013035900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:05, 13 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WQUlrich-20241013040500-Michael_Bednarek-20241013035900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WQUlrich-20241013040500-Michael_Bednarek-20241013035900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20241013064700-WQUlrich-20241013040500"></span>The article on <a href="/wiki/Carl_Haunold" title="Carl Haunold">Carl Haunold</a> itself is almost an orphan, as is the <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Rausch" class="extiw" title="de:Franz Rausch">de:Franz Rausch</a>. Mentioning Rausch in the Haunold article would be rather arbitrary and forced, but that's up to you. Franz Rausch is mentioned as a piano maker (of an unremarkable recording) in the article on Schumann's <i><a href="/wiki/Kinderszenen" title="Kinderszenen">Kinderszenen</a></i>, but nowhere else in Wikipedia's 6.9 million articles. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20241013064700-WQUlrich-20241013040500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:47, 13 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20241013064700-WQUlrich-20241013040500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20241013064700-WQUlrich-20241013040500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WP:VAND" data-mw-thread-id="h-WP:VAND-20241014075500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WP:VAND-20241014075500"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VAND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VAND">WP:VAND</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-WP:VAND-20241014075500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamtam90-20241014075500-WP:VAND"></span>Stop your vandalism in the articles created by me. That looks like <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Harassment" title="Wikipedia:Harassment">Wikipedia:Harassment</a>. We already <a href="/wiki/Talk:Wenn_ich_ein_V%C3%B6glein_w%C3%A4r" title="Talk:Wenn ich ein Vöglein wär">discussed</a> that stuff: I've got months ago the permission for stihi.ru (for my own translations) in Wikidata and have no wish to explain such things to any passerby in poetry. Don't remove my original translations from the pages created by myself until you may remove this <a class="external text" href="https://ru.m.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B3_%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0/%D0%A2%D0%BE%D0%BC_1">collection</a>. --~~ <a href="/wiki/User:Tamtam90" title="User:Tamtam90">Tamtam90</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamtam90" title="User talk:Tamtam90">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Tamtam90-20241014075500-WP:VAND" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:55, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamtam90-20241014075500-WP:VAND"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamtam90-20241014075500-WP:VAND"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20241014101100-Tamtam90-20241014075500"></span>I removed material from a) "<a href="/wiki/Es_kam_ein_Herr_zum_Schl%C3%B6%C3%9Fli" title="Es kam ein Herr zum Schlößli">Es kam ein Herr zum Schlößli</a>" and b) "<a href="/wiki/Wenn_ich_ein_V%C3%B6glein_w%C3%A4r" title="Wenn ich ein Vöglein wär">Wenn ich ein Vöglein wär</a>" that was not attributed to a source but copied from a website where it is marked with "© Copyright:: Сергей Павлов Стихи [Sergey Pavlov Potikhi], 2018 at <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://stihi.ru/2018/08/15/9373">https://stihi.ru/2018/08/15/9373</a>" for a); and "© Copyright:: Сергей Павлов Стихи [Sergey Pavlov Potikhi], 2024 at <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://stihi.ru/2024/08/29/5879">https://stihi.ru/2024/08/29/5879</a>" for b). If you have permission to use that material, you have follow the procedure at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PERMISSION" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PERMISSION">WP:PERMISSION</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DCP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DCP">WP:DCP</a> to allow the material being used on Wikipedia. At the conclusion of that process, the articles' talk pages will be tagged with <a href="/wiki/Template:Permission_ticket" title="Template:Permission ticket">Template:Permission ticket</a>. For material from web pages that is marked with <a href="/wiki/Creative_Commons_license" title="Creative Commons license">CC</a> <a href="/wiki/Attribution_(copyright)" title="Attribution (copyright)">BY</a>-<a href="/wiki/Share-alike" title="Share-alike">SA</a> 4.0., an attribution to the source must be provided in the Wikipedia articles where that material is used.</dd> <dd>While rightly correcting a text error in the lyrics of "Es kam ein Herr zum Schlößli", you introduced a grammatical error. Further, I don't think the poorly cropped page from the <i>Almanach</i> you restored into the infobox improves the article; it misses the lower part and is written in an obscure clef. The source shown in the Swiss (Greyerz) collection is better suited.</dd> <dd>Lastly, I recommend you read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VAND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VAND">WP:VAND</a>, especially <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NORESVAND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NORESVAND">WP:NORESVAND</a>, bullet #3. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20241014101100-Tamtam90-20241014075500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:11, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20241014101100-Tamtam90-20241014075500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20241014101100-Tamtam90-20241014075500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamtam90-20241014160100-Michael_Bednarek-20241014101100"></span>Look here: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://o.stihi.ru/">https://o.stihi.ru/</a> and read: " Все авторские права на произведения принадлежат авторам и охраняются законом" — "All copyright rights are granted to/ recognised for the authors." I'm the only author of those transactions, we agreed in Wikidata to publish them without additional tickets, merely pointing at CC 4.0. That's quite easy to show that license in Wikidata template.--<a href="/wiki/User:Tamtam90" title="User:Tamtam90">Tamtam90</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamtam90" title="User talk:Tamtam90">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Tamtam90-20241014160100-Michael_Bednarek-20241014101100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:01, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamtam90-20241014160100-Michael_Bednarek-20241014101100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamtam90-20241014160100-Michael_Bednarek-20241014101100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20241024012500-Tamtam90-20241014160100"></span>Those 2 translations I mentioned above as a) and b) are not marked as CC BY-SA 4.0 and thus fail Wikipedia requirements for re-using material. I will mark those translations with <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Copyright_violation" title="Template:Copyright violation">Copyright violation</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek#top" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17#c-Michael_Bednarek-20241024012500-Tamtam90-20241014160100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:25, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-20241024012500-Tamtam90-20241014160100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-20241024012500-Tamtam90-20241014160100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?useformat=desktop&type=1x1&usesul3=0" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17&oldid=1258776869">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Michael_Bednarek/Archive_17&oldid=1258776869</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-hidden-catlinks" class="mw-hidden-catlinks mw-hidden-cats-hidden">Hidden category: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Indexed_pages" title="Category:Indexed pages">Indexed pages</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 21 November 2024, at 15:47<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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