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Erran Morad, <i>Who Is America?</i>, s01e01</cite></div></blockquote> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1244412712"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>yod-dropper</p><div class="templatequotecite">— <cite>(when you need something that <i>sounds</i> like an insult)<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://specgram.com/CLI.3/02.letters.html">[1]</a></cite></div></blockquote> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1244412712"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p><a href="/wiki/All_Lives_Matter" title="All Lives Matter">ALL keys matter</a></p><div class="templatequotecite">— <cite>response to the scale-wandering rendition of the national anthem at <a href="/wiki/Conservative_Political_Action_Conference" title="Conservative Political Action Conference">CPAC</a> 2021</cite></div></blockquote> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1244412712"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>The Lunatic-in-Charge becomes the Lunatic-at-Large</p></blockquote> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1244412712"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p><a href="/wiki/Post-election_lawsuits_related_to_the_2020_United_States_presidential_election" class="mw-redirect" title="Post-election lawsuits related to the 2020 United States presidential election">Lame duck à l'orange</a> (AKA <i><a href="/wiki/Canard" class="mw-disambig" title="Canard">canard</a> à l'orange</i>)</p></blockquote> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1244412712"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>It is a mortifying circumstance, which greatly perplexes many a painstaking philosopher, that nature often refuses to second his most profound and elaborate efforts; so that often after having invented one of the most ingenious and natural theories imaginable, she will have the perverseness to act directly in the teeth of his system, and flatly contradict his most favorite positions. This is a manifest and unmerited grievance, since it throws the censure of the vulgar and unlearned entirely upon the philosopher; whereas the fault is not to be ascribed to his theory, which is unquestionably correct, but to the waywardness of Dame Nature, who, with the proverbial fickleness of her sex, is continually indulging in coquetries and caprices, and seems really to take pleasure in violating all philosophic rules, and jilting the most learned and indefatigable of her adorers. [...] The philosophers took this in very ill part, and it is thought they would never have pardoned the slight and affront which they conceived put upon them by the world had not a good-natured professor kindly officiated as a mediator between the parties, and effected a reconciliation. Finding the world would not accommodate itself to the theory, he wisely determined to accommodate the theory to the world.</p><div class="templatequotecite">— <cite>Washington Irving, <i><a href="/wiki/Knickerbocker%27s_History_of_New_York" class="mw-redirect" title="Knickerbocker's History of New York">Knickerbocker's History of New York</a></i></cite></div></blockquote> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1244412712"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p><i>Pela primeira vez na sua vida a morte soube o que era ter um cão no regaço.</i><br/>For the first time in her life, death knew what it felt like to have a dog in her lap.</p><div class="templatequotecite">— <cite>José Saramago, <i><a href="/wiki/Death_with_Interruptions" title="Death with Interruptions">Death with Interruptions / Death at Intervals</a></i></cite></div></blockquote> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1244412712"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>It is now generally accepted that the megaliths that make up <a href="/wiki/Stonehenge" title="Stonehenge">Stonehenge</a> were moved by human effort.</p><div class="templatequotecite">— <cite>as opposed to by <i>what</i>?</cite></div></blockquote> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1244412712"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>Anybody who says you only have yourself to blame is just not very good at blaming other people.</p><div class="templatequotecite">— <cite><a href="/wiki/It%27s_Happy_Bunny" title="It's Happy Bunny">It's Happy Bunny</a></cite></div></blockquote> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1244412712"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p><i>When poppies pull themselves up from their roots <br/>and start out, one after the other, toward the sunset – <br/>don't follow them.</i></p><div class="templatequotecite">— <cite><a href="/wiki/Slavko_Janevski" title="Slavko Janevski">Slavko Janevski</a>, 'Silence'</cite></div></blockquote> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1244412712"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>And the dough-headed took their acid fermentation for a soul, the stabbing of meat for history, the means of postponing their decay for civilization.</p><div class="templatequotecite">— <cite><a href="/wiki/Stanislaw_Lem" class="mw-redirect" title="Stanislaw Lem">Stanislaw Lem</a>, <i>Return from the Stars</i></cite></div></blockquote> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1244412712"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p><i>The Church says that the Earth is Flat, <br/>but I know that it is Round, <br/>for I have seen its Shadow on the Moon, <br/>and I have more Faith in a Shadow than in the Church.</i></p><div class="templatequotecite">— <cite>(commonly misattributed to Magellan)</cite></div></blockquote> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1244412712"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>In the early years of the study there were more than 200 speakers of the dialect, including one parrot.</p><div class="templatequotecite">— <cite>from the WP article <a href="/wiki/Nancy_Dorian" title="Nancy Dorian">Nancy Dorian</a></cite></div></blockquote> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1244412712"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p><a href="/wiki/Michael_E._Brown" title="Michael E. Brown">Mikebrown</a> is unusually eccentric and not very bright. [...] Astronomers have not noticed any outbursts by Mikebrown.</p><div class="templatequotecite">— <cite>from the WP article <a href="/wiki/11714_Mikebrown" title="11714 Mikebrown">11714 Mikebrown</a></cite></div></blockquote> <dl><dd><i><a href="/wiki/Ecce_Mono" class="mw-redirect" title="Ecce Mono">Ecce Mono</a></i></dd></dl> <figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Keep-redskins-white.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Keep-redskins-white.png" decoding="async" width="96" height="121" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="96" data-file-height="121"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Washington_Redskins#Integration_controversy" class="mw-redirect" title="Washington Redskins">Keep Redskins White!</a></dd> <dd>"homosapiens are people, too!!"</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Spaghetti_Weevil" class="mw-redirect" title="Spaghetti Weevil">a sprig of spaghetti</a></dd> <dd>"I've always had a horror of husbands-in-law."</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Autological_word" title="Autological word">awkwardnessful</a></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Ophiocordyceps_unilateralis#Anti-zombie-fungus_fungus" title="Ophiocordyceps unilateralis">anti–zombie-fungus fungus</a></dd> <dd>"Only an evil person would eat baby soup." (said in all sincerity)</dd></dl> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <p><br/> </p><p><br/> </p><p><br/> </p><p><br/> </p><p><br/> </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Stop_re-publishing_editions_which_lack_necessary_citations" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stop_re-publishing_editions_which_lack_necessary_citations-20241107204800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stop_re-publishing_editions_which_lack_necessary_citations-20241107204800"></span>Stop re-publishing editions which lack necessary citations<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stop_re-publishing_editions_which_lack_necessary_citations-20241107204800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kwamikagami&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Stop re-publishing editions which lack necessary citations"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><i><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daldidandal-20241107204800-Stop_re-publishing_editions_which_lack_necessary_citations"></span>Your 'Phags-pa' theory section is backed by little to no sources, and have 'citations needed' notifications that have not been addressed for years.</b></i> If you want to keep these things in the article, <b>ADD CITATIONS.</b> The article was covered with the citations needed template even before I new it existed. <a href="/wiki/User:Daldidandal" title="User:Daldidandal">Daldidandal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daldidandal" title="User talk:Daldidandal">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kwamikagami#c-Daldidandal-20241107204800-Stop_re-publishing_editions_which_lack_necessary_citations" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:48, 7 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daldidandal-20241107204800-Stop_re-publishing_editions_which_lack_necessary_citations"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daldidandal-20241107204800-Stop_re-publishing_editions_which_lack_necessary_citations"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kwamikagami-20241108001300-Daldidandal-20241107204800"></span>All sources for the article are listed, they're just not cited for every statement. Adding 'cn' for those statements is fine. Placing those tags in the section headers, rather than in the statements themselves, defaces the article, but more importantly, falsifying quotations is completely inappropriate, and repeatedly doing so could possibly get you blocked. That falsified info is the reason I reverted you. [If your edits were corrections, then you're obviously going off the refs and so have seen that those refs exist.] Going on to blank content because you're annoyed at your bad edits being reverted is also inappropriate. I have no problem with you tagging statements or sections that you feel need better referencing, just use the templates as they were intended to be used. <a href="/wiki/User:Kwamikagami" title="User:Kwamikagami">— kwami</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kwamikagami#c-Kwamikagami-20241108001300-Daldidandal-20241107204800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:13, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kwamikagami-20241108001300-Daldidandal-20241107204800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kwamikagami-20241108001300-Daldidandal-20241107204800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bono_dialect" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bono_dialect-20241114134800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bono_dialect-20241114134800"></span>Bono dialect<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bono_dialect-20241114134800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kwamikagami&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Bono dialect"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BarrelProof-20241114134800-Bono_dialect"></span>Your second renaming of <a href="/wiki/Bono_dialect" title="Bono dialect">Bono dialect</a> on 10 November was improper. Instead of insistently repeating your reverted bold move of 12 October, you should have submitted an RM request for discussion. —⁠ ⁠<a href="/wiki/User:BarrelProof" title="User:BarrelProof">BarrelProof</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BarrelProof" title="User talk:BarrelProof">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kwamikagami#c-BarrelProof-20241114134800-Bono_dialect" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:48, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BarrelProof-20241114134800-Bono_dialect"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BarrelProof-20241114134800-Bono_dialect"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kwamikagami-20241114212000-BarrelProof-20241114134800"></span>I've made a move request. The current name contradicts the consensus of sources. <a href="/wiki/User:Kwamikagami" title="User:Kwamikagami">— kwami</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kwamikagami#c-Kwamikagami-20241114212000-BarrelProof-20241114134800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kwamikagami-20241114212000-BarrelProof-20241114134800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kwamikagami-20241114212000-BarrelProof-20241114134800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""implosive_affricates_[are]_unlikely"" data-mw-thread-id="h-"implosive_affricates_[are]_unlikely"-20241119163900"><span id=".22implosive_affricates_.5Bare.5D_unlikely.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"implosive_affricates_[are]_unlikely"-20241119163900"></span>"implosive affricates [are] unlikely"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"implosive_affricates_[are]_unlikely"-20241119163900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kwamikagami&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: "implosive affricates [are] unlikely""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-90.194.29.218-20241119163900-"implosive_affricates_[are]_unlikely""></span>In August 2015 you added this to the <a href="/wiki/Implosive_consonant" title="Implosive consonant">Implosive consonant</a> page. </p> <dl><dd>There are no IPA symbols for implosive fricatives. Implosive fricatives are unknown, and implosive affricates unlikely.</dd></dl> <p>In January 2024 <a href="/wiki/User:Whoop_whoop_pull_up" title="User:Whoop whoop pull up">Whoop whoop pull up</a> added a "why" tag. Would you be able to provide more detail to support this claim? </p><p><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/90.194.29.218" title="Special:Contributions/90.194.29.218">90.194.29.218</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:90.194.29.218&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:90.194.29.218 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kwamikagami#c-90.194.29.218-20241119163900-"implosive_affricates_[are]_unlikely"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:39, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-90.194.29.218-20241119163900-"implosive_affricates_[are]_unlikely""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-90.194.29.218-20241119163900-"implosive_affricates_[are]_unlikely""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kwamikagami-20241119204300-90.194.29.218-20241119163900"></span>I can change it to 'Implosive fricatives and affricates are unknown.' <a href="/wiki/User:Kwamikagami" title="User:Kwamikagami">— kwami</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kwamikagami#c-Kwamikagami-20241119204300-90.194.29.218-20241119163900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:43, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kwamikagami-20241119204300-90.194.29.218-20241119163900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kwamikagami-20241119204300-90.194.29.218-20241119163900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Mate_tea_(drink)"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Mate_tea_(drink)"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-20241124114600"><span id=".22Mate_tea_.28drink.29.22_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Mate_tea_(drink)"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-20241124114600"></span>"<a href="/wiki/Mate_tea_(drink)" title="Mate tea (drink)">Mate tea (drink)</a>" listed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion">Redirects for discussion</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Mate_tea_(drink)"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-20241124114600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kwamikagami&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: "Mate tea (drink)" listed at Redirects for discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-1234qwer1234qwer4-20241124114600-"Mate_tea_(drink)"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a></span> The redirect <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mate_tea_(drink)&redirect=no">Mate tea (drink)</a></span> has been listed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion">redirects for discussion</a> to determine whether its use and function meets the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirect" title="Wikipedia:Redirect">redirect guidelines</a>. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_24#Mate_tea_(drink)" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 November 24">Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 November 24 § Mate tea (drink)</a></b> until a consensus is reached. <a href="/wiki/User:1234qwer1234qwer4" title="User:1234qwer1234qwer4">1234qwer</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:1234qwer1234qwer4" title="User talk:1234qwer1234qwer4">1234qwer</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/1234qwer1234qwer4" title="Special:Contributions/1234qwer1234qwer4">4</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kwamikagami#c-1234qwer1234qwer4-20241124114600-"Mate_tea_(drink)"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:46, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-1234qwer1234qwer4-20241124114600-"Mate_tea_(drink)"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-1234qwer1234qwer4-20241124114600-"Mate_tea_(drink)"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Toki_Pona" data-mw-thread-id="h-Toki_Pona-20241125185500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Toki_Pona-20241125185500"></span>Toki Pona<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Toki_Pona-20241125185500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kwamikagami&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Toki Pona"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kovcszaln6-20241125185500-Toki_Pona"></span>Hi, sorry to bother you. In <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=prev&oldid=171847651">this</a></span> 2007 edit, you have made some changes to the <a href="/wiki/Toki_Pona" title="Toki Pona">Toki Pona</a> article. Could you by any chance provide the sources for the following two claims: <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk inline-quote-talk-marks">V and CVN syllables are each around 10%, while only 5 words have VN syllables (2%).</q> and <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk inline-quote-talk-marks">Most roots (70%) are disyllabic; about 20% are monosyllables and 10% trisyllables.</q> Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Kovcszaln6" title="User:Kovcszaln6">Kovcszaln6</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kovcszaln6" title="User talk:Kovcszaln6">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kwamikagami#c-Kovcszaln6-20241125185500-Toki_Pona" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:55, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kovcszaln6-20241125185500-Toki_Pona"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kovcszaln6-20241125185500-Toki_Pona"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kwamikagami-20241125203400-Kovcszaln6-20241125185500"></span>I have no recollection, but given that there are only 120 roots, it's easy enough to check. <a href="/wiki/User:Kwamikagami" title="User:Kwamikagami">— kwami</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kwamikagami#c-Kwamikagami-20241125203400-Kovcszaln6-20241125185500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:34, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kwamikagami-20241125203400-Kovcszaln6-20241125185500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kwamikagami-20241125203400-Kovcszaln6-20241125185500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Please_update_commons:File:CousinMarriageWorld.svg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_update_commons:File:CousinMarriageWorld.svg-20241127233600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_update_commons:File:CousinMarriageWorld.svg-20241127233600"></span>Please update <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CousinMarriageWorld.svg" class="extiw" title="commons:File:CousinMarriageWorld.svg">commons:File:CousinMarriageWorld.svg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_update_commons:File:CousinMarriageWorld.svg-20241127233600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kwamikagami&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Please update commons:File:CousinMarriageWorld.svg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-1.165.200.243-20241127233600-Please_update_commons:File:CousinMarriageWorld.svg"></span>Greece should be red (see <a href="/wiki/Talk:Cousin_marriage#Greece" title="Talk:Cousin marriage">Talk:Cousin marriage#Greece</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://singleparent.gr/enimerosi/nomika-themata/einai-egkyros-o-gamos-metaxy-proton-exadelfon">[2]</a>) </p><p>Vietnam is also red (Clause 3, Article 10 of the 2000 Vietnamese Law on Marriage and Family forbids marriages of people related by blood up to the third degree of kinship, and the third degree of kinship is second cousin). </p><p>Malaysia is blue (even <a href="/wiki/Avunculate_marriage" title="Avunculate marriage">avunculate marriage</a> is allowed in Malaysia). </p><p>Indonesia is also blue. </p><p>Hong Kong and Macau are also blue. </p><p>Kazakhstan is blue, and Ukraine should be red, see <a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File_talk:CousinMarriageWorld.svg">[3]</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/1.165.200.243" title="Special:Contributions/1.165.200.243">1.165.200.243</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:1.165.200.243&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:1.165.200.243 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kwamikagami#c-1.165.200.243-20241127233600-Please_update_commons:File:CousinMarriageWorld.svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:36, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-1.165.200.243-20241127233600-Please_update_commons:File:CousinMarriageWorld.svg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-1.165.200.243-20241127233600-Please_update_commons:File:CousinMarriageWorld.svg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kwamikagami-20241128022900-1.165.200.243-20241127233600"></span>In process.</dd> <dd>What about Cyprus - I'd expect the law to be similar to that of Greece.</dd> <dd>Or Ethiopia. That might be an exception to the general pattern in Africa. <a href="/wiki/User:Kwamikagami" title="User:Kwamikagami">— kwami</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kwamikagami#c-Kwamikagami-20241128022900-1.165.200.243-20241127233600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:29, 28 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kwamikagami-20241128022900-1.165.200.243-20241127233600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kwamikagami-20241128022900-1.165.200.243-20241127233600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-220.132.216.52-20241128034300-Kwamikagami-20241128022900"></span>I do not know, but Uzbekistan is red, it bans cousin marriage since 2020, also you can see <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CousinMarriageWorldUpdated.svg" class="extiw" title="commons:File:CousinMarriageWorldUpdated.svg">commons:File:CousinMarriageWorldUpdated.svg</a> (this graph is wrong for some eastern European countries including Greece and Bulgaria (for these countries the current <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CousinMarriageWorld.svg" class="extiw" title="commons:File:CousinMarriageWorld.svg">commons:File:CousinMarriageWorld.svg</a> file is right) and for some states in America, but should be right for the countries which the current <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CousinMarriageWorld.svg" class="extiw" title="commons:File:CousinMarriageWorld.svg">commons:File:CousinMarriageWorld.svg</a> file is gray (except Uzbekistan)) and add many blue countries (Zimbabwe and Nepal should be orange), also, Hong Kong and Macau should be blue, see <a href="/wiki/Cousin_marriage#East_Asia" title="Cousin marriage">Cousin_marriage#East_Asia</a>, “Unlike China mainland, the two special administrative regions of China, Hong Kong and Macau, place no restrictions on marriage between cousins.” <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/220.132.216.52" title="Special:Contributions/220.132.216.52">220.132.216.52</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:220.132.216.52" title="User talk:220.132.216.52">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kwamikagami#c-220.132.216.52-20241128034300-Kwamikagami-20241128022900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:43, 28 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-220.132.216.52-20241128034300-Kwamikagami-20241128022900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-220.132.216.52-20241128034300-Kwamikagami-20241128022900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-220.132.216.52-20241128035200-Kwamikagami-20241128022900"></span>Also, why <a href="/wiki/Bosnia_and_Herzegovina" title="Bosnia and Herzegovina">Bosnia and Herzegovina</a> become red? It should be blue. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/220.132.216.52" title="Special:Contributions/220.132.216.52">220.132.216.52</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:220.132.216.52" title="User talk:220.132.216.52">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kwamikagami#c-220.132.216.52-20241128035200-Kwamikagami-20241128022900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:52, 28 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-220.132.216.52-20241128035200-Kwamikagami-20241128022900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-220.132.216.52-20241128035200-Kwamikagami-20241128022900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kwamikagami-20241128052600-220.132.216.52-20241128035200"></span>That map shows Uzbekistan as blue, not red. Do you have a source?</dd> <dd>I changed Bonsia per request on one of my talk pages. If you have a source it should be blue, please provide.</dd> <dd>Added HK and Macao to the map. <a href="/wiki/User:Kwamikagami" title="User:Kwamikagami">— kwami</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kwamikagami#c-Kwamikagami-20241128052600-220.132.216.52-20241128035200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:26, 28 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kwamikagami-20241128052600-220.132.216.52-20241128035200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kwamikagami-20241128052600-220.132.216.52-20241128035200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-220.132.216.52-20241128154000-Kwamikagami-20241128052600"></span>Uzbekistan bans first cousin marriage since 2020, thus it should be red, also these countries are blue: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Laos" title="Laos">Laos</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Cambodia" title="Cambodia">Cambodia</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Myanmar" title="Myanmar">Myanmar</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Singapore" title="Singapore">Singapore</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Brunei" title="Brunei">Brunei</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/East_Timor" title="East Timor">East Timor</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Mongolia" title="Mongolia">Mongolia</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Bangladesh" title="Bangladesh">Bangladesh</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Bhutan" title="Bhutan">Bhutan</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Sri_Lanka" title="Sri Lanka">Sri Lanka</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Maldives" title="Maldives">Maldives</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Turkmenistan" title="Turkmenistan">Turkmenistan</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Kyrgyzstan" title="Kyrgyzstan">Kyrgyzstan</a></li></ul></dd> <dd>please update them, Thanks. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/220.132.216.52" title="Special:Contributions/220.132.216.52">220.132.216.52</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:220.132.216.52" title="User talk:220.132.216.52">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kwamikagami#c-220.132.216.52-20241128154000-Kwamikagami-20241128052600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:40, 28 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-220.132.216.52-20241128154000-Kwamikagami-20241128052600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-220.132.216.52-20241128154000-Kwamikagami-20241128052600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-220.132.216.52-20241128154400-Kwamikagami-20241128052600"></span>Also, why <a href="/wiki/Ethiopia" title="Ethiopia">Ethiopia</a> become gray? It is also blue. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/220.132.216.52" title="Special:Contributions/220.132.216.52">220.132.216.52</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:220.132.216.52" title="User talk:220.132.216.52">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kwamikagami#c-220.132.216.52-20241128154400-Kwamikagami-20241128052600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:44, 28 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-220.132.216.52-20241128154400-Kwamikagami-20241128052600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-220.132.216.52-20241128154400-Kwamikagami-20241128052600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1&useformat=desktop" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kwamikagami&oldid=1260052371">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kwamikagami&oldid=1260052371</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 28 November 2024, at 15:51<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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