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interwiki-blk mw-list-item"><a href="https://blk.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%80%9D%E1%80%AD%E1%80%85%E1%80%BA%E1%80%9E%E1%80%AD%E1%80%89%E1%80%BA%E1%80%94%E1%80%9B%E1%80%AE:%E1%80%94%E1%80%B1%E1%80%84%E1%80%BA%E1%80%B8%E1%80%91%E1%80%AE%E1%80%94%E1%80%BD%E1%80%AD%E1%80%AF%E1%80%B8%E1%80%86%E1%80%B2%E1%80%84%E1%80%BA%E1%82%8F" title="ဝိစ်သိဉ်နရီ:နေင်းထီနွိုးဆဲင်ႏ - Pa'O" lang="blk" hreflang="blk" data-title="ဝိစ်သိဉ်နရီ:နေင်းထီနွိုးဆဲင်ႏ" data-language-autonym="ပအိုဝ်ႏဘာႏသာႏ" data-language-local-name="Pa'O" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ပအိုဝ်ႏဘာႏသာႏ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-br mw-list-item"><a href="https://br.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikeriadur:Goulenno%C3%B9_diwar-benn_ar_gerio%C3%B9" title="Wikeriadur:Goulennoù diwar-benn ar gerioù - breton" lang="br" hreflang="br" data-title="Wikeriadur:Goulennoù diwar-benn ar gerioù" data-language-autonym="Brezhoneg" data-language-local-name="breton" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Brezhoneg</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-cs mw-list-item"><a href="https://cs.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikislovn%C3%ADk:Pod_l%C3%ADpou_(lingvistika)" title="Wikislovník:Pod lípou (lingvistika) - ceco" lang="cs" hreflang="cs" data-title="Wikislovník:Pod lípou (lingvistika)" data-language-autonym="Čeština" data-language-local-name="ceco" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Čeština</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-de mw-list-item"><a href="https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Auskunft" title="Wiktionary:Auskunft - tedesco" lang="de" hreflang="de" data-title="Wiktionary:Auskunft" data-language-autonym="Deutsch" data-language-local-name="tedesco" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Deutsch</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-en mw-list-item"><a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Tea_room" title="Wiktionary:Tea room - ingles" lang="en" hreflang="en" data-title="Wiktionary:Tea room" data-language-autonym="English" data-language-local-name="ingles" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>English</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-es mw-list-item"><a href="https://es.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikcionario:Consultas" title="Wikcionario:Consultas - spagnòllo" lang="es" hreflang="es" data-title="Wikcionario:Consultas" data-language-autonym="Español" data-language-local-name="spagnòllo" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Español</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fr mw-list-item"><a href="https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionnaire:Questions_sur_les_mots" title="Wiktionnaire:Questions sur les mots - franseise" lang="fr" hreflang="fr" data-title="Wiktionnaire:Questions sur les mots" data-language-autonym="Français" data-language-local-name="franseise" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Français</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-km mw-list-item"><a href="https://km.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Tea_room" title="Wiktionary:Tea room - khmer" lang="km" hreflang="km" data-title="Wiktionary:Tea room" data-language-autonym="ភាសាខ្មែរ" data-language-local-name="khmer" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ភាសាខ្មែរ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-mnw mw-list-item"><a href="https://mnw.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%80%9D%E1%80%AD%E1%80%80%E1%80%BA%E1%80%9B%E1%80%BE%E1%80%B1%E1%80%94%E1%80%BA%E1%80%94%E1%80%9B%E1%80%B3:%E1%80%9D%E1%80%AD%E1%80%AF%E1%80%84%E1%80%BA%E1%80%80%E1%80%BB%E1%80%AC" title="ဝိက်ရှေန်နရဳ:ဝိုင်ကျာ - Mon" lang="mnw" hreflang="mnw" data-title="ဝိက်ရှေန်နရဳ:ဝိုင်ကျာ" data-language-autonym="ဘာသာမန်" data-language-local-name="Mon" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ဘာသာမန်</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-my mw-list-item"><a href="https://my.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%80%9D%E1%80%85%E1%80%BA%E1%80%9B%E1%80%BE%E1%80%84%E1%80%BA%E1%80%94%E1%80%9B%E1%80%AE:%E1%80%9C%E1%80%80%E1%80%BA%E1%80%96%E1%80%80%E1%80%BA%E1%80%9B%E1%80%8A%E1%80%BA%E1%80%86%E1%80%AD%E1%80%AF%E1%80%84%E1%80%BA" title="ဝစ်ရှင်နရီ:လက်ဖက်ရည်ဆိုင် - birman" lang="my" hreflang="my" data-title="ဝစ်ရှင်နရီ:လက်ဖက်ရည်ဆိုင်" data-language-autonym="မြန်မာဘာသာ" data-language-local-name="birman" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>မြန်မာဘာသာ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ne mw-list-item"><a href="https://ne.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%80:%E0%A4%9A%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE_%E0%A4%98%E0%A4%B0" title="विक्सनरी:चिया घर - nepaleise" lang="ne" hreflang="ne" data-title="विक्सनरी:चिया घर" data-language-autonym="नेपाली" data-language-local-name="nepaleise" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>नेपाली</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-shn mw-list-item"><a href="https://shn.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%80%9D%E1%80%AD%E1%81%B5%E1%80%BA%E1%82%87%E1%80%9E%E1%80%BB%E1%80%AD%E1%81%BC%E1%80%BA%E1%82%87%E1%81%BC%E1%80%9B%E1%80%AE%E1%82%87:%E1%80%9C%E1%81%A2%E1%81%BC%E1%80%BA%E1%82%89%E1%81%BC%E1%80%99%E1%80%BA%E1%82%89%E1%81%BC%E1%80%B5%E1%80%84%E1%80%BA%E1%82%88" title="ဝိၵ်ႇသျိၼ်ႇၼရီႇ:လၢၼ်ႉၼမ်ႉၼဵင်ႈ - shan" lang="shn" hreflang="shn" data-title="ဝိၵ်ႇသျိၼ်ႇၼရီႇ:လၢၼ်ႉၼမ်ႉၼဵင်ႈ" data-language-autonym="ၽႃႇသႃႇတႆး " data-language-local-name="shan" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ၽႃႇသႃႇတႆး </span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-si mw-list-item"><a href="https://si.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%B7%80%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%9A%E0%B7%8A%E0%B7%82%E0%B6%B1%E0%B6%BB%E0%B7%92:%E0%B6%AD%E0%B7%9A_%E0%B6%B8%E0%B7%9A%E0%B7%83%E0%B6%BA" title="වික්ෂනරි:තේ මේසය - sinhala" lang="si" hreflang="si" data-title="වික්ෂනරි:තේ මේසය" data-language-autonym="සිංහල" data-language-local-name="sinhala" 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discussion sora i parolle del wikizzionari, se te voeulet discuter del wikizzionari in sgerenal và al <b><a href="/wiki/Wikizzionari:Bar" title="Wikizzionari:Bar">Bar del wikizzionari</a></b></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><b><a href="/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista/Archivi" title="Wikizzionari:Crot di linguista/Archivi">Discussion archiviade</a></b> </p> <div style="text-align:left"><div style="border:1px solid green; background-color:#D7FFC7; font-size:120%; margin-top:1em; margin-bottom:1em; width:20%; text-align:center; padding:2px;" class="plainlinks"> <p><a class="external text" href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista&action=edit&section=new"><b>Derva una discussion</b></a> </p> </div></div> <p><br/> </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Quante_a_inn_i_coniugazzion_di_verb_in_italian?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Quante_a_inn_i_coniugazzion_di_verb_in_italian?-20221212172000"><span id="Quante_a_inn_i_coniugazzion_di_verb_in_italian.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Quante_a_inn_i_coniugazzion_di_verb_in_italian?-20221212172000"></span>Quante a inn i coniugazzion di verb in italian?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Quante_a_inn_i_coniugazzion_di_verb_in_italian?-20221212172000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista&action=edit&section=1" title="Modifega la sezzion Quante a inn i coniugazzion di verb in italian?"><span>modifega</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20221212172000-Quante_a_inn_i_coniugazzion_di_verb_in_italian?"></span>In sul wikizzionari i verb italian a inn classificad in quater coniugazzion a l'istessa manera de quei lombard. Donca prima coniugazzion (quei che finissen in -are); segonda coniugazzion (quei che finissen in -ere con acent in su la penultima sillaba); terza coniugazzion (quei che finissen in -ere con acent in su la prima sillaba, quarta coniugazzion 8quei che finissen in -ire. Però me par de havé lensgiud in sgir che i coniugazzion a inn domà trè. Num se gh'hem de fà? <a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20221212172000-Quante_a_inn_i_coniugazzion_di_verb_in_italian?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:20, 12 des 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20221212172000-Quante_a_inn_i_coniugazzion_di_verb_in_italian?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20221212172000-Quante_a_inn_i_coniugazzion_di_verb_in_italian?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laurbereth-20221212205000-Gat_lombard-20221212172000"></span>Hoo minga capid la toa domanda. Tradizzionalment, in italian i coniugazzion “pure” inn considerade trè e i vegnen an’mò tratade inscì di font pussee autorevele. Per esempi, la Treccani la ghe mett anca lee che i inn domà trè, coma te pœudet vedé <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/coniugazione-verbale_(Enciclopedia-dell'Italiano)">chichinscì;</a> quell che te see dree a dì tì je ciamen al massem “dò sottaclass dedent de la segonda coniugazzion”. Intuitù de la manera che i sarissen de gestì in lombard, el gh’havariss de depender de la variant. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Laurbereth" title="Ciciarada Utent:Laurbereth">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Laurbereth-20221212205000-Gat_lombard-20221212172000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:50, 12 des 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laurbereth-20221212205000-Gat_lombard-20221212172000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laurbereth-20221212205000-Gat_lombard-20221212172000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20221212205800-Laurbereth-20221212205000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a>: Quell che mi seri 'dree a domandà l'era se questa manera de scompartì la fudess de giustà</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Categoria:Verb_italian_de_la_prima_coniugazzion" title="Categoria:Verb italian de la prima coniugazzion">Categoria:Verb italian de la prima coniugazzion</a></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Categoria:Verb_italian_de_la_segonda_coniugazzion" title="Categoria:Verb italian de la segonda coniugazzion">Categoria:Verb italian de la segonda coniugazzion</a></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Categoria:Verb_italian_de_la_terza_coniugazzion" title="Categoria:Verb italian de la terza coniugazzion">Categoria:Verb italian de la terza coniugazzion</a></dd> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=Categoria:Verb_italian_de_la_quarta_coniugazzion&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Categoria:Verb italian de la quarta coniugazzion (la pagina la gh'è minga)">Categoria:Verb italian de la quarta coniugazzion</a></dd> <dd>Donca la quarta coniuniugazzion la gh'ha de diventà terza e la terza la gh'ha de diventà segonda. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20221212205800-Laurbereth-20221212205000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:58, 12 des 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20221212205800-Laurbereth-20221212205000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20221212205800-Laurbereth-20221212205000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20221212210300-Laurbereth-20221212205000"></span>Donca l'è de giustà, trè coniugazzion e minga quater.--<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20221212210300-Laurbereth-20221212205000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:03, 12 des 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20221212210300-Laurbereth-20221212205000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20221212210300-Laurbereth-20221212205000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laurbereth-20221212214000-Gat_lombard-20221212210300"></span>Ah, hoo capid adess. Negott, alora. Putost, see segur che i coniugazzion sajen trè in lombard oriental e nò domà dò? Francament a lensger dei articoi scrivud in bressan quell dubi chì el m’è vegnud. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Laurbereth" title="Ciciarada Utent:Laurbereth">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Laurbereth-20221212214000-Gat_lombard-20221212210300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:40, 12 des 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laurbereth-20221212214000-Gat_lombard-20221212210300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laurbereth-20221212214000-Gat_lombard-20221212210300"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20221212221700-Gat_lombard-20221212210300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a>: Mi a conossi nò el bressan, conossi domà 'l milanes. In bergamasch a inn trè, te podet vardà l'articol del dialet bergamsch in su la wikipedia italiana. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20221212221700-Gat_lombard-20221212210300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:17, 12 des 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20221212221700-Gat_lombard-20221212210300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20221212221700-Gat_lombard-20221212210300"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20221213125000-Gat_lombard-20221212221700"></span>Problema giustad <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Archivi:yes_check.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Fet"><img alt="Fet" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></a></span> <b>Fad-Fait!</b>--<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20221213125000-Gat_lombard-20221212221700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:50, 13 des 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20221213125000-Gat_lombard-20221212221700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20221213125000-Gat_lombard-20221212221700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Coniugazzion_di_verb_in_lombard_oriental" data-mw-thread-id="h-Coniugazzion_di_verb_in_lombard_oriental-20221213081100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Coniugazzion_di_verb_in_lombard_oriental-20221213081100"></span>Coniugazzion di verb in lombard oriental<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Coniugazzion_di_verb_in_lombard_oriental-20221213081100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista&action=edit&section=2" title="Modifega la sezzion Coniugazzion di verb in lombard oriental"><span>modifega</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laurbereth-20221213081100-Coniugazzion_di_verb_in_lombard_oriental"></span>Te inzebissi ol mè dubi, inlora: ch’a saiva mì, in del bergomasch i verb a l’infinid de la segonda coniugazzion — prategament la segonda e la terza coniugazzion in milanes sgiamò metude insema — pœuden ciapà un dobi sufiss verbal in -er e -ì, e te gh’hee donca una situazzion indova che i do forme pu o manch co-esisten — gh’è veder e vedì, parer e parì, vegner e vegnì, etc. Ol sufiss -er l’è no parnonziad, però, compagn del milanes. Ol problema l’è che el sariss an’mò istess per la pupart di verb de la quarta coniugazzion, asca i verb incoativ e un quaj olter verb che, per reson eufoneghe, el pœul minga perder la -ì — per esempi: dormì, che a dì domà “dorm” a se fa fadiga in lombard con quei do consonant lì a la fin de la parolla — e donca te gh’heet an’mò mœurer e morì, parter e partì, ma domà finì e capì, e dormì coma hoo sgiamò deit. Anca ol partizzipi in -ud/uda l’è stait totalment rempiazzad de -id/ida anca par i verb de la terza coniugazzion. A se podariss dì che, se gh’è debon una quarta coniugazzion, la sibia compognuda in la so forma pussee “pura” nomà di verb incoativ e de quii compagn de dormì, desgià che la segonda+terza coniugazzion la pœul comportàss coma se la fudess la quarta, e la quarta la segonda+terza. I robe vegnen anca pœu esacerbade in bressan del fait che lor chì parnonzien ol sufiss -er, e donca te pœudet sgiamò trovà di forme compagne de dormer e dormì, finì e finisser, capì e capisser, e te rivet donca a un nivell de sconfusion intra i do coniugazzion che el podariss vesser definid coma “complet” a quell pont chì. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Laurbereth" title="Ciciarada Utent:Laurbereth">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Laurbereth-20221213081100-Coniugazzion_di_verb_in_lombard_oriental" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:11, 13 des 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laurbereth-20221213081100-Coniugazzion_di_verb_in_lombard_oriental"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laurbereth-20221213081100-Coniugazzion_di_verb_in_lombard_oriental"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20221213092800-Laurbereth-20221213081100"></span>Mi son minga pratich de la question. Per fà vegnì pussee ciara la question ho scrit sgiò questa tabella chì, che la ghe và adree a quell che l'è vegnud a voltra finadess. Ve ricordi che la question, in del cas che ghe sia on quaivun pratiche e che 'l gh'habia pari de giustà, l'interessa la pagina "<a href="/wiki/Apendice:Moeud_e_temp_verbai_in_lombard" title="Apendice:Moeud e temp verbai in lombard">Apendice:Moeud_e_temp_verbai_in_lombard</a>" e i so version in ingles e in italian. quand che la question la sarà ciara, ghe sarà anca de giustà el templeit: <a href="/wiki/Modell:verb" title="Modell:verb">Modell:verb</a>. @<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a>: --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20221213092800-Laurbereth-20221213081100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:28, 13 des 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20221213092800-Laurbereth-20221213081100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20221213092800-Laurbereth-20221213081100"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><table class="wikitable"> <tbody><tr> <th>Lombard ocidental </th> <th>Lombard oriental </th></tr> <tr> <td>1 (-à) </td> <td>1 (-à) </td></tr> <tr> <td>2 (-è) </td> <td>3 (-er)<br/>4 (-ì) </td></tr> <tr> <td>3 (-er) </td> <td>3 (-er)<br/>4 (-ì) </td></tr> <tr> <td>4 (-ì) </td> <td>4 (-ì)<br/>3 (-er) </td></tr> </tbody></table></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ausiliar" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ausiliar-20230119164600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ausiliar-20230119164600"></span>Ausiliar<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ausiliar-20230119164600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista&action=edit&section=3" title="Modifega la sezzion Ausiliar"><span>modifega</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sciking-20230119164600-Ausiliar"></span>Ocio che in bergamasch e in la pupart di dialet camun l'ausiliar l'è havé e mìnga havégh, l'è de ransgià el template. -- <a href="/wiki/Utent:Sciking" title="Utent:Sciking">Sciking</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Sciking" title="Ciciarada Utent:Sciking">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Sciking-20230119164600-Ausiliar" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:46, 19 gen 2023 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sciking-20230119164600-Ausiliar"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sciking-20230119164600-Ausiliar"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230119172400-Sciking-20230119164600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Sciking" title="Utent:Sciking">Sciking</a>: aome l'è che 'l gh'ha de vesser ransgiad? Se te voeulet podi desblocà el templeit e te 'l giustet ti. Opur te podet fàll in d'ona toa sotpagina de la toa utenza.--<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230119172400-Sciking-20230119164600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:24, 19 gen 2023 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230119172400-Sciking-20230119164600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230119172400-Sciking-20230119164600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sciking-20230131212500-Gat_lombard-20230119172400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a>: doman te disi ben --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Sciking" title="Utent:Sciking">Sciking</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Sciking" title="Ciciarada Utent:Sciking">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Sciking-20230131212500-Gat_lombard-20230119172400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:25, 31 gen 2023 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sciking-20230131212500-Gat_lombard-20230119172400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sciking-20230131212500-Gat_lombard-20230119172400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Legitimità_del_plural_mascolin_in_-i_–_quand_che_l’è_giust_e_quand_che_l’è_nò" data-mw-thread-id="h-Legitimità_del_plural_mascolin_in_-i_–_quand_che_l’è_giust_e_quand_che_l-20230624102100"><span id="Legitimit.C3.A0_del_plural_mascolin_in_-i_.E2.80.93_quand_che_l.E2.80.99.C3.A8_giust_e_quand_che_l.E2.80.99.C3.A8_n.C3.B2"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Legitimità_del_plural_mascolin_in_-i_–_quand_che_l’è_giust_e_quand_che_l-20230624102100"></span>Legitimità del plural mascolin in -i – quand che l’è giust e quand che l’è nò<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Legitimità_del_plural_mascolin_in_-i_–_quand_che_l’è_giust_e_quand_che_l-20230624102100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista&action=edit&section=4" title="Modifega la sezzion Legitimità del plural mascolin in -i – quand che l’è giust e quand che l’è nò"><span>modifega</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laurbereth-20230624102100-Legitimità_del_plural_mascolin_in_-i_–_quand_che_l’è_giust_e_quand_che_l"></span>Salud a tucc. Per la manera che gh’hoo mì de parlà, de defœura di nom mascolin che fenissen per -l, el plural in -i l’è un lavor soratut feminin, e restrecc nomà a di parolle che le mantegnen per di reson eufoneghe (per esempi arma/arme /ˈɑːrma/, /ˈɑːrmi/). Impunemanch, a causa de l’italian, quella sorta chì de plurai me par che la saja adree a ciapà pè, in d’una manera ben pussee impropria e caotega e despess senza una regola precisa dedree. Me piasaria ciarì fœura la quistion, anca per metei sgiò a una fœusgia pussee neta per quii che inn dree a lensgen per imprender la lengua. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a> <a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Laurbereth" title="Ciciarada Utent:Laurbereth">☛ ✉ ☚</a> <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Laurbereth-20230624102100-Legitimità_del_plural_mascolin_in_-i_–_quand_che_l’è_giust_e_quand_che_l" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:21, 24 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laurbereth-20230624102100-Legitimità_del_plural_mascolin_in_-i_–_quand_che_l’è_giust_e_quand_che_l"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laurbereth-20230624102100-Legitimità_del_plural_mascolin_in_-i_–_quand_che_l’è_giust_e_quand_che_l"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230624113400-Laurbereth-20230624102100"></span>L'influenza pussee recente de la lengua italiana in del dialet milanes l'è in di plurale di nom maschil che al singolare finisse con -a. Dessorapù in del dialet milanes d'incoeu, ma sgiamò d'on frach de decenni i nom maschil che al singolar finissen con -on al plurale finissen con -oni.--<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230624113400-Laurbereth-20230624102100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:34, 24 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230624113400-Laurbereth-20230624102100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230624113400-Laurbereth-20230624102100"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230624113600-Laurbereth-20230624102100"></span>Ste regole chì a inn misse sgiò <a href="/wiki/Apendice:Plural_di_nom_in_lombard" title="Apendice:Plural di nom in lombard">chichinscì</a> e anca in sul wikiliber italian e ingles--<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230624113600-Laurbereth-20230624102100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:36, 24 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230624113600-Laurbereth-20230624102100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230624113600-Laurbereth-20230624102100"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laurbereth-20230624125000-Gat_lombard-20230624113600"></span>Pussee che di regole ciare e fenide, je vedi ’mè di tendenze colloquialment spontanie che nassen però del costum de fà el plural de una parolla lombarda in fonzion de la sò traduzzion italiana (che a parlà razzionalment l’è un quajcoss che el gh’ha nò de sens: in italian el plural tel fee nò a partì de la parolla franzesa). El discors che volevi portà l’era donca vun de legitimità, desgià che el fenomen l’è situad in su una trajetoria che, se se desmarcom minga, la menarà a una situazzion de conversgenza asquas totala intra i dò lengov o propri a l’estinzion completa del lombard, che l’andarà inanz a esister nomà in fonzion de la lengua dominanta infina a quand el vegnarà pu parlad del tut.<br/>De delà dei esempi che t’hee portad tì – forsi sgiamò un poo pussee recognossibii e magara regolarizad – quella tendenza chì la solta fœura in d’un monton de oltre ocasion de categorizazzion minga ciara, in di quai el plural l’è fait su in d’una manera se podariss dì propri arbitraria – per esempi, di vœulte m’è capitad de trovà ‘diversi’ doperad ’mè plural de ‘divers’, che prategament te capisset che l’è inscì nomà perchè quella parolla chì in italian la feniss per -o. A se domandi, donca, in che mesura el sia giust considerà quii plurai chì ‘mè ‘lombard’, e reportài o listài sgiò chinscì. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a> <a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Laurbereth" title="Ciciarada Utent:Laurbereth">☛ ✉ ☚</a> <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Laurbereth-20230624125000-Gat_lombard-20230624113600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:50, 24 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laurbereth-20230624125000-Gat_lombard-20230624113600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laurbereth-20230624125000-Gat_lombard-20230624113600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230624130800-Laurbereth-20230624125000"></span>L'è vera però la lengua vera l'è quella del d'incoeu e la lengua l'è semper mudada in del corso del temp. L'unica roba che podom fà l'è scriver in d'ona manera on zich pussee veggia e marcà di forme consiliade --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230624130800-Laurbereth-20230624125000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:08, 24 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230624130800-Laurbereth-20230624125000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230624130800-Laurbereth-20230624125000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laurbereth-20230624142800-Gat_lombard-20230624130800"></span>Gh’è cambiament e cambiament. Che i lengov muden in natura l’è vera, ma credi che el lombard del dì d’incœu el se slontani de quell che el gh’havaria de vesser un cambiament o un’evoluzzion lenguistega natural desgià che l’è ciar che el saja vitima di e che el refleta i zircostanze sozziai indova la lengua la se trœuva de una quaj desenna de agn. Se considerom che l’ultima sgenerazzion de ‘maderlengua pur’ l’esistarà gnanca pu, che quii che le parla ancamò inn analfabeta, e che la normalità del dì d’incœu l’è quella de preferìgh l’italian in del 99% dei ocasion, l’è comprensibel che anca in quell 1% piscinin se fenissa per sconfondes con l’italian. Comprensibilità e legitimità inn però dò robe diferente, e el lombard e l’italian dò lengov diferente. Se cheschì l’è un dizzionari in lombard el gh’havariss de vesser bon de despartìll fœura de l’italian e de dàgh un’indicazzion coerenta a l’utenza in di cas pussee ambigov, compagn, per esempi, de la situazzion che portavi mì di plurai in -i per i nom mascolin. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a> <a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Laurbereth" title="Ciciarada Utent:Laurbereth">☛ ✉ ☚</a> <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Laurbereth-20230624142800-Gat_lombard-20230624130800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:28, 24 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laurbereth-20230624142800-Gat_lombard-20230624130800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laurbereth-20230624142800-Gat_lombard-20230624130800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230624161800-Laurbereth-20230624142800"></span>'Sti chì a inn segura i ultim cambiament inanz de la mort de la lengua, ma domà perché la sgent l'ha tacad a parlà l'italian. Ricordom però che 'l lombard el ven de la lengua celtica antiga che l'ha subid de maneman l'influenza del latin. Anca a quii temp là gh'è stad on femomen compagn.--<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230624161800-Laurbereth-20230624142800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 24 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230624161800-Laurbereth-20230624142800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230624161800-Laurbereth-20230624142800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laurbereth-20230624180900-Gat_lombard-20230624161800"></span>Sì, disem che sem dree a parlà de di cambiament che a inn sintomategh de l’istacc de lengua <i>alla deriva</i> del lombard; però, per coma la vedi mì, la lengua l’è gnancamò morta. E se l’è minga morta el vœul dì che l’è ancamò viva e/o che la pœul semper vegnì a stà mej se o quand la situazzion la cambia.<br/>Intuitù di plurai: mì je cavarissi propri desgià che i plurai di parolle in itajan gh’hann nò sens de stàgh in su un dizzionari in de un’oltra lengua. O, in di cas limitad indova la sò usanza l’è propri inscì documentada e spantegada che cavài del tut el causaria tropa confusion, ghe marcaria sgiò de tute i manere che l’è una parolla itajana che la sgent l’ha tacad a tirà denter in del parlà quand che la se sconfond intra i dò lengov per tute i reson che disevem sgiamò. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a> <a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Laurbereth" title="Ciciarada Utent:Laurbereth">☛ ✉ ☚</a> <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Laurbereth-20230624180900-Gat_lombard-20230624161800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:09, 24 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laurbereth-20230624180900-Gat_lombard-20230624161800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laurbereth-20230624180900-Gat_lombard-20230624161800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230624183200-Laurbereth-20230624180900"></span>In del dialet milanes gh'inn tanti plural a la manera italiana spategad, in ogni modo quell mester chì se po fà, ma ghe va del temp. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230624183200-Laurbereth-20230624180900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:32, 24 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230624183200-Laurbereth-20230624180900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230624183200-Laurbereth-20230624180900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laurbereth-20230625073500-Gat_lombard-20230624183200"></span>A la fin ghe vœul temp per fà tut, donca a le se fa con calma, o podarissom fài fœura cont el bot, se/indova l’è possibel. Per i vos nœuve ghe saria nomà de fàgh atenzion a quei robe chì e ai regole che se serom dait per l’ispostament di vos per havégh manch de lavorà.<br/>Per el rest, me par ciar che sem dree a parlà de una interferenza de lengua mader (italian) pussee che de un’evoluzzion legitima che la faga part de la lengua medema. Se la popolazzion al dì d’incœu l’è pu mader-lengua e la se esprim soratut in italian, quii error chì inn nò el lombard/milanes ‘del dì d’incœu’, ma nomà una testimonianza del facc che a la sgent ghe manca dimestichezza d’espression in la lengua e che ghe ven natural dovrà l’italian per suplì la mancanza de cognossenza, desgià che l’italian el parlom e el capissom tucc. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a> <a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Laurbereth" title="Ciciarada Utent:Laurbereth">☛ ✉ ☚</a> <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Laurbereth-20230625073500-Gat_lombard-20230624183200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:35, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laurbereth-20230625073500-Gat_lombard-20230624183200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laurbereth-20230625073500-Gat_lombard-20230624183200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laurbereth-20230625101800-Gat_lombard-20230624183200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a>: per esempi, per quell che disevem chichinscì, <a class="external text" href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=lat&diff=prev&oldid=237649">quella modifega chì</a> a la considerarissi nò ’mè legitima. Capissi nò el criteri per el qual di parolle compagne de queste chì vegnen considerade milanese e vegnen listade ’mè di variant lombarde quand che l’è ciar che a inn tajane. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a> <a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Laurbereth" title="Ciciarada Utent:Laurbereth">☛ ✉ ☚</a> <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Laurbereth-20230625101800-Gat_lombard-20230624183200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:18, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laurbereth-20230625101800-Gat_lombard-20230624183200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laurbereth-20230625101800-Gat_lombard-20230624183200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625102300-Laurbereth-20230625101800"></span>L'è ciar ma podum fà nagot foeura che metei nò in del titol de la vos e marcai come italianismi o forme minga consjliade desgià che inn dent in del dizzionari de l'Antonini del 1996. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230625102300-Laurbereth-20230625101800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:23, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625102300-Laurbereth-20230625101800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230625102300-Laurbereth-20230625101800"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625103700-Laurbereth-20230625101800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a>: In ogni modo mi credi che la forma pussee giusta la sia "lato" desgià che l'è ona parolla italiana vegnuda dent in del lombard che l'esisteva nò in lombard. Defat in sul dizzionari del Cherubini del 1843 la gh'è nò. "Lat" l'esisteva nò l'è domà "lato" senza la -o e comunque in lombard i esisten anca i termen maschil che finissen con -o per esempi "treno". --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230625103700-Laurbereth-20230625101800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:37, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625103700-Laurbereth-20230625101800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230625103700-Laurbereth-20230625101800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625103800-Gat_lombard-20230625103700"></span>Inveci "<a href="/wiki/reato" title="reato">reato</a>" l'è propi ona sostituzzion de "<a href="/wiki/riat" title="riat">riat</a>" vegnuda de l'italian come te disevet ti. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230625103800-Gat_lombard-20230625103700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:38, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625103800-Gat_lombard-20230625103700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230625103800-Gat_lombard-20230625103700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laurbereth-20230625113900-Gat_lombard-20230625103800"></span>In quii agn lì i ideje che la sgent la gh’haveva a resguard de la lengua eren diverse di nostre – el lombard l’era vist ’mè un lenguasg sgresg subordinad a l’italian, e doperà di parolle italiane per esprimes l’era considerad, a bon cunt, un ‘parlà mej’. L’è nò una sorpresa che i contegnud dei œuvre del temp ghe andaven adree a la mentalità che la sgent la gh’heva. La quistion, però, la resta: se ‘lato’, ‘<a href="/wiki/paragrafo" title="paragrafo">paragrafo</a>’, ‘reato’, etc., inn parolle lombarde, alora ogni parolla tajana la podariss potenzialment vesser considerada lombarda se mì la disi in mez a dei oltre parolle che a l’oreggia pœuden anca somejà pussee lombardente. Quand el prezzedent l’è cheschì, nunch se trœuvom in d’una posizzion problematega – sarissem pu bon, de facc, de despartì i dò lengov in d’una manera che la saja nò completament arbitraria e sogetiva.<br/>De defœura del dialet de Legnan (se a se regordi ben) – che in quell respet chì a l’è un dialet <i>sui generis</i> in del panorama lombard – i nom mascolin che fenissen per -o inn estremament limitad, e i se trœuven nomà in di parolle compagne de ‘cito’ o ‘eco’, che de norma tegnen la -o anca al plural.<br/>El mond a l’è ciarament cambiad de quand se parlava nomà lombard, l’è vera, e l’è normal che ghe saja nassud di parolle che serven per segnà dei inovazzion tecnologeghe o di concet che prima gh’eren nò, ma in quell cas chì i parolle in quistion gh’havarissen de vesser lombardizade in del respet de la strucciura de la lengua senza desformàlla fœura, sedenò fenissom per fà su un rebelot che el feniss pu che el ne mena ancamò in su la trajetoria che disevi chì de sora. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a> <a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Laurbereth" title="Ciciarada Utent:Laurbereth">☛ ✉ ☚</a> <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Laurbereth-20230625113900-Gat_lombard-20230625103800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:39, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laurbereth-20230625113900-Gat_lombard-20230625103800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laurbereth-20230625113900-Gat_lombard-20230625103800"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625115700-Laurbereth-20230625113900"></span>Il del dialet milanes i parolle masschil che finissen con -o al singolar finissen con -i al plural;a esisten ma inn propi poche. ( a inn pre esempi treno, scemo, ma anca tute quei che finissen con -ismo). --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230625115700-Laurbereth-20230625113900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:57, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625115700-Laurbereth-20230625113900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230625115700-Laurbereth-20230625113900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625120200-Laurbereth-20230625113900"></span>L'è anca vera che 'l dialet milanes l'ha subid l'influenza de l'italian fina del 1800 --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230625120200-Laurbereth-20230625113900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:02, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625120200-Laurbereth-20230625113900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230625120200-Laurbereth-20230625113900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625120400-Laurbereth-20230625113900"></span>Oramai el rebellot el gh'è sgiamò. Ma podom minga meter nò in del wikizzionari di parolle drovade, ma domà considerai come italianismi de minga consilià --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230625120400-Laurbereth-20230625113900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:04, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625120400-Laurbereth-20230625113900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230625120400-Laurbereth-20230625113900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laurbereth-20230625122800-Gat_lombard-20230625120400"></span>Quei parolle lì che te diset inn di parolle tajane che, sì, capita che la sgent je dœuvri una quaj vœulta in d’un discors prevalentement in milanes, e gh’hann el plural in -i perchè a inn di parolle italiane minga lombardizade. Anca se mì je disi in mez a trè parolle in milanes, a resten de tute i manere di parolle italiane doperade in d’un discors in de un’oltra lengua. Al dì d’incœu anca in italian se dis <i>weekend</i> pussee despess de <i>fine della settimana</i>, ma l’è nò che l’è una parolla italiana adess – el resta una parolla inglesa, e anca se l’è deventada inscì comuna che la ven listada in su la Treccani, te disen ancamò che l’è una locuzzion inglesa<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.treccani.it/vocabolario/week-end/">[1]</a>. Podarissom fà inscì anca niolter, o fàgh una tabella a part, ma el farissi propri nomà per i parolle che a inn talment spantegade a nivell sora-dialetal che bœugna fàgh una vos per forza, se je trœuvom nomà in d’un dizzionari ‘dialetista’ sgiamò pien de italianade mì je schivaria propri desgià che je vedi nò ’mè una sgiontadura legitima che la ten in considerazzion la strucciura natural de la lengua lombarda. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a> <a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Laurbereth" title="Ciciarada Utent:Laurbereth">☛ ✉ ☚</a> <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Laurbereth-20230625122800-Gat_lombard-20230625120400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:28, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laurbereth-20230625122800-Gat_lombard-20230625120400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laurbereth-20230625122800-Gat_lombard-20230625120400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625134500-Laurbereth-20230625122800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a>: Tute i parolle che tachen a vesser drovade in d'ona lengua tachen a fà part de quella lengua là, donca anca se "weekend" l'è considerada ona parolla inglesa, in realtà l'è andada dent in de la lengua italiana. El rebellot l'è putost l'ortografia perchè a consideralla ona parolla inglesa la scrivom con la grafia inglesa. Tuta la storia l'è stada inscì, defat anca in de la lengua italiana gh'inn di parolle vegnude de alter lengue ma minga del latin. Per el fat però che a inn vegnude denter in temp assee indree, nun je acetom come italiane, diversament de quei che a inn vegnude denter pussee de recent che tirom a considerai an'mò foreste. Donca l'è giusta che la Treccani l'habia tirada denter in del dizzionari italian, ma 'l sariss anca giusta che nun italian drovassom minga di parolle foreste quand che gh'è minga bisogn. A fà inscì favorissom la destruzzion de la lengua, e l'è quell che sem 'dree a fà. Istess l'è per el lombard, i parolle che se droeuven a inn diventade lombarde ma gh'inn di forme consijade per mantegnì la lengua pussee lombarda. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230625134500-Laurbereth-20230625122800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:45, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625134500-Laurbereth-20230625122800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230625134500-Laurbereth-20230625122800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laurbereth-20230625145100-Legitimità_del_plural_mascolin_in_-i_–_quand_che_l’è_giust_e_quand_che_l"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a>: Un quajcoss compagn de <a href="/w/index.php?title=Utent:Laurbereth/Sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Utent:Laurbereth/Sandbox (la pagina la gh'è minga)">cheschì</a> pœudel andà ben per tì? --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a> <a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Laurbereth" title="Ciciarada Utent:Laurbereth">☛ ✉ ☚</a> <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Laurbereth-20230625145100-Legitimità_del_plural_mascolin_in_-i_–_quand_che_l’è_giust_e_quand_che_l" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:51, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laurbereth-20230625145100-Legitimità_del_plural_mascolin_in_-i_–_quand_che_l’è_giust_e_quand_che_l"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laurbereth-20230625145100-Legitimità_del_plural_mascolin_in_-i_–_quand_che_l’è_giust_e_quand_che_l"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625161400-Laurbereth-20230625145100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a>: El modell variant el gh'ha de restà "variant" e minga "variant lombarde" perchè l'è doperad anca in di parolle forester, donca l'hho rimetud 'me l'era prima. In quant al rest l'è on'idea possibil, però la tabella di variant foreste mi la faria completa come quella di variant lombard, cont el marcà i dialet i ortografie. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230625161400-Laurbereth-20230625145100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:14, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625161400-Laurbereth-20230625145100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230625161400-Laurbereth-20230625145100"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625162100-Laurbereth-20230625145100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a>: Và a <a href="/w/index.php?title=Utent:Laurbereth/Sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Utent:Laurbereth/Sandbox (la pagina la gh'è minga)">vardà</a> come l'è che hoo cambiad. Però second mi con du tabelle la queistion la ven tropa lunga. La soluzzion pussee bona l'è quella de modifegà i modei di dialet e sgiontà on'altra opzzion compagn de quella di forme arcaiche o de provincia, magara on'opzion "f" (forest) in manera de marcà l'origin foresta senza fà trop casot. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230625162100-Laurbereth-20230625145100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:21, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625162100-Laurbereth-20230625145100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230625162100-Laurbereth-20230625145100"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625162600-Laurbereth-20230625145100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a>: Mi faria in quella <a href="/w/index.php?title=Utent:Laurbereth/Sandbox1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Utent:Laurbereth/Sandbox1 (la pagina la gh'è minga)">manera chì</a>. Per ti el va ben?--<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230625162600-Laurbereth-20230625145100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:26, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625162600-Laurbereth-20230625145100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230625162600-Laurbereth-20230625145100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laurbereth-20230625163000-Gat_lombard-20230625162600"></span>La mè ideja l’era quella de tegnìi despartid per schivà de la confusion minga nezzessaria in di leccior. Se se riess a fàll in d’una tabella unega l’è nò un problema per mì, ma metegh nomà una sigla piscinina me par trop poch. Ghe andariss anca la lengua d’orisgen pussee che la grafia dovrada per scriver sgiò la parolla. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a> <a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Laurbereth" title="Ciciarada Utent:Laurbereth">☛ ✉ ☚</a> <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Laurbereth-20230625163000-Gat_lombard-20230625162600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:30, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laurbereth-20230625163000-Gat_lombard-20230625162600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laurbereth-20230625163000-Gat_lombard-20230625162600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625164000-Laurbereth-20230625163000"></span>Per la lengua d'origen el ven assee complicad, ma al voléll se po fàll. Adess ghe proeuvi.--<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230625164000-Laurbereth-20230625163000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:40, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625164000-Laurbereth-20230625163000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230625164000-Laurbereth-20230625163000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625170100-Laurbereth-20230625163000"></span>Varda come l'è <a href="/w/index.php?title=Utent:Laurbereth/Sandbox1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Utent:Laurbereth/Sandbox1 (la pagina la gh'è minga)">adess</a> --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230625170100-Laurbereth-20230625163000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:01, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625170100-Laurbereth-20230625163000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230625170100-Laurbereth-20230625163000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laurbereth-20230625171300-Gat_lombard-20230625170100"></span>L’è nò mal, ma trœuvi che i dò tabelle sajen ancamò pussee visualment imediade per el leccior ocasional, e ne da anca la possibilità de scriver sgiò dò righe de disclaimer senza fà di note indova el serv. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a> <a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Laurbereth" title="Ciciarada Utent:Laurbereth">☛ ✉ ☚</a> <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Laurbereth-20230625171300-Gat_lombard-20230625170100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:13, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laurbereth-20230625171300-Gat_lombard-20230625170100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laurbereth-20230625171300-Gat_lombard-20230625170100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625171700-Laurbereth-20230625171300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a>: Però coi dò tabelle i pagine se slonghen e poeu se dà l'idea che i sò forme siben che a inn arente sien pussee lontane. In fin di cunt paragrafo e paragraf a inn minga inscì tant diversi.--<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230625171700-Laurbereth-20230625171300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:17, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625171700-Laurbereth-20230625171300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230625171700-Laurbereth-20230625171300"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625171800-Laurbereth-20230625171300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a>: E poeu coi dò tabelle el ven pussee anca el lavorà per tirai in pee --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230625171800-Laurbereth-20230625171300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:18, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625171800-Laurbereth-20230625171300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230625171800-Laurbereth-20230625171300"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625172000-Laurbereth-20230625171300"></span>Per i righe de desclaimer a podom risolver a meter di ligam a "lengua d'origen"--<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230625172000-Laurbereth-20230625171300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625172000-Laurbereth-20230625171300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230625172000-Laurbereth-20230625171300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laurbereth-20230625184900-Gat_lombard-20230625172000"></span>El problema che ghe vedi l’è che se mì fudessi un leccior che l’è nò famejar con la terminologia del sit, me basta un’oggiada per capì la situazzion in la version cont i dò tabelle despartide; in l’oltra, inveci, la comprension l’è nò inscì istantania – gh’è o un link a una pagina de jut che gh’hoo de schiscià o un avertiment cont una ‘lengua d’origen’, ma nissuna spiegazzion o visual o scriccia del perchè. La prima la da anca un’ideja de separazzion neta intra la variant lombarda natural e quella italiana intrusiva, che l’è quell che gh’havariom besœugn; la segonda nò. Però, sì, l’è un lavorà pussee longh.<br/>‘Paragrafo’ l’hoo dovrad nomà ’mè esempi perchè el gh’era sgiamò, ma per mì el gh’havariss forsi gnanca de stàgh in sul sit chì – de defœura de la menzion faita in sul Vallardi pensi minga che la sò difusion la sibia inscì spantegada e popolara de giustifegà la sò presenza. Anca a lassà stà quell discors chì, però, l’è de tute i manere una parolla che l’introdus una categoria de plurai forest e problemategh che a andà a la longa menen la lengua a una situazzion desgenerativa de la qual l’è defizzel tornà indree, anca se l’è nomà per una letera a la fin de la parolla. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a> <a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Laurbereth" title="Ciciarada Utent:Laurbereth">☛ ✉ ☚</a> <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Laurbereth-20230625184900-Gat_lombard-20230625172000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:49, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laurbereth-20230625184900-Gat_lombard-20230625172000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laurbereth-20230625184900-Gat_lombard-20230625172000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625190800-Laurbereth-20230625184900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a>: Mi tegnaria ona tabella unica. De conseguenza in quella discussion chì sem domà in dù e podom minga decider. Se te voeulet te podet tirà in pee on <a href="/wiki/Wikizzionari:Sondagg" title="Wikizzionari:Sondagg">sondagg</a> indove che decidarem per ona proposta (tabella unica) o per l'altra (do tabelle deperlore). In tute i manere son d'acord anca mi de marcà i italianismi. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230625190800-Laurbereth-20230625184900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:08, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625190800-Laurbereth-20230625184900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230625190800-Laurbereth-20230625184900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laurbereth-20230625192100-Gat_lombard-20230625190800"></span>Ok per el sondasg. Magara el se sgionta un quajvun cont un’oltra ideja che la met d’acord tucc. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Laurbereth" title="Utent:Laurbereth">Laurbereth</a> <a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Laurbereth" title="Ciciarada Utent:Laurbereth">☛ ✉ ☚</a> <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Laurbereth-20230625192100-Gat_lombard-20230625190800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:21, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laurbereth-20230625192100-Gat_lombard-20230625190800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laurbereth-20230625192100-Gat_lombard-20230625190800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625193800-Laurbereth-20230625192100"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <strong>D'acord</strong> --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista#c-Gat_lombard-20230625193800-Laurbereth-20230625192100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:38, 25 sgiu 2023 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20230625193800-Laurbereth-20230625192100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20230625193800-Laurbereth-20230625192100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Recuperad de "<a dir="ltr" href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista&oldid=237792">https://lmo.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Wikizzionari:Crot_di_linguista&oldid=237792</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Special:Categurij" title="Special:Categurij">Categoria</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Categoria:Crot_di_linguista" title="Categoria:Crot di linguista">Crot di linguista</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> 'Sta pagina chì l'è stada modifegada l'ultima volta el 25 sgiu 2023, ai ore 20:38.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">El test l'è disponibil sota la licenza <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License</a>; a podarissen vesser aplicad di termin de sgionta. 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