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Thank you for helping out!<br/><small>You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FRS">Feedback Request Service</a> subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FRS">removing your name</a>.</small> </p><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div><p> Message delivered to you with love by <a href="/wiki/User:Yapperbot" title="User:Yapperbot">Yapperbot</a> :) | Is this wrong? Contact <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Naypta" title="User talk:Naypta">my bot operator</a>. | Sent at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Otr500#c-Naypta-20241208023000-Feedback_request:_Geography_and_places_Good_Article_nomination" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:30, 8 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naypta-20241208023000-Feedback_request:_Geography_and_places_Good_Article_nomination"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naypta-20241208023000-Feedback_request:_Geography_and_places_Good_Article_nomination"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tollen" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tollen-20241209221700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tollen-20241209221700"></span><a href="/wiki/Tollen" title="Tollen">Tollen</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tollen-20241209221700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Otr500&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Tollen"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bearian-20241209221700-Tollen"></span>You said four years ago that you could source this. Do so, or argue at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AfD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AfD">WP:AfD</a> next week. <a href="/wiki/User:Bearian" title="User:Bearian">Bearian</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bearian" title="User talk:Bearian">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Otr500#c-Bearian-20241209221700-Tollen" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:17, 9 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bearian-20241209221700-Tollen"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bearian-20241209221700-Tollen"></span> </p> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Otr500-20241212090200-Bearian-20241209221700"></span>Reply</b>: Greetings, I do not remember such a statement. On 13 November 2020 I did state <a href="/wiki/Talk:Tollen#Hidden_content" title="Talk:Tollen">I hid the "Description" and "Geography" section that need sourcing. I could not, on an initial search, verify the content. If sourcing can be found the article could be reassessed as "Start-class"</a>.</dd> <dd>A failed proposal <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(Geographic_locations)" title="Wikipedia:Notability (Geographic locations)">Wikipedia:Notability (Geographic locations)</a> seems to be used as a rationale to create hundreds, if not multiple thousands, of place name locations as possibly a past populated place. I suppose misreading <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(geographic_features)" title="Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features)">Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features)</a> is possible, especially the part concerning being "supported by multiple reliable independent sources". To some <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars#WP:5P1" title="Wikipedia:Five pillars">Wikipedia is a gazetteer</a> gives justification regardless of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">GNG</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GEO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GEO">GEO</a>.</dd> <dd>I seem to remember a multitude of California stub articles, created (I believe) possibly by an admin (maybe with a bot aid) and so many were unverified by any source as being a past populated place. Some even showing a spot in the middle of nowhere, with a single GNIS source (2009 I think). Some dictionary stub places might use the single "Ghost Towns of Northern California" source.</dd> <dd>A possible previous populated place like Tollen should not exist without sourcing. The camp that thinks notability does not mean what is sourced on an article but that a source exists somewhere in the universe, might have merit "until" <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BURDEN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BURDEN">notability is questioned</a>. Look at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ramirez,_California" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ramirez, California">Ramirez, California</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sonora_Junction,_California" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sonora Junction, California">Sonora Junction, California</a>. A mentality that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Leliter,_California" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leliter, California">Towns, unlike people, don't need to establish notability, only official recognition</a> has been evident.</dd> <dd>Some articles using, <i>Ghost Towns of Northern California</i> or <i>California's Geographic Names: A Gazetteer of Historic and Modern Names of the State</i> might be notable. Articles such as <a href="/wiki/Secret_Ravine,_California" title="Secret Ravine, California">Secret Ravine, California</a> (single source) or <a href="/wiki/Deadwood,_Placer_County,_California" title="Deadwood, Placer County, California">Deadwood, Placer County, California</a> (single source) are possibly notable but GNIS has errors which need to be looked at.</dd> <dd>The bottomline is that unsourced articles are suspect and if sourcing is not found should be deleted. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Otr500" title="User:Otr500">Otr500</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Otr500#c-Otr500-20241212090200-Bearian-20241209221700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:02, 12 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Otr500-20241212090200-Bearian-20241209221700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Otr500-20241212090200-Bearian-20241209221700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Feedback_request:_All_RFCs_request_for_comment" data-mw-thread-id="h-Feedback_request:_All_RFCs_request_for_comment-20241213133000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Feedback_request:_All_RFCs_request_for_comment-20241213133000"></span>Feedback request: All RFCs request for comment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Feedback_request:_All_RFCs_request_for_comment-20241213133000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Otr500&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Feedback request: All RFCs request for comment"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naypta-20241213133000-Feedback_request:_All_RFCs_request_for_comment"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/48px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="48" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/72px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Internet-group-chat.svg/96px-Internet-group-chat.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>Your feedback is requested at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Republic_TV#rfc_31A7DF0" title="Talk:Republic TV"><b>Talk:Republic TV</b> on a "All RFCs" request for comment</a>. 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