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id="Putin.27s_fork_follies"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Putin's_fork_follies-signpost-article-title"></span>Putin's fork follies<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Putin's_fork_follies-signpost-article-title"></span></h3></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1240928998"></div><div class="signpost-sidebar signpost-sidebar-fillerimage"><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Vladimir_Putin_tours_Yevgeny_Prigozhin%27s_Concord_food_catering_factory_11_(cropped).jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Vladimir_Putin_tours_Yevgeny_Prigozhin%27s_Concord_food_catering_factory_11_%28cropped%29.jpg/300px-Vladimir_Putin_tours_Yevgeny_Prigozhin%27s_Concord_food_catering_factory_11_%28cropped%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="300" height="291" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Vladimir_Putin_tours_Yevgeny_Prigozhin%27s_Concord_food_catering_factory_11_%28cropped%29.jpg/450px-Vladimir_Putin_tours_Yevgeny_Prigozhin%27s_Concord_food_catering_factory_11_%28cropped%29.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Vladimir_Putin_tours_Yevgeny_Prigozhin%27s_Concord_food_catering_factory_11_%28cropped%29.jpg/600px-Vladimir_Putin_tours_Yevgeny_Prigozhin%27s_Concord_food_catering_factory_11_%28cropped%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1128" data-file-height="1095"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><div class="signpost-fillerimage"><a href="/wiki/Vladimir_Putin" title="Vladimir Putin">Vladimir Putin</a> with <a href="/wiki/Yevgeny_Prigozhin" title="Yevgeny Prigozhin">Yevgeny Prigozhin</a>, a 2010 photo from government.ru that the Putinist censor <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://ru.ruwiki.ru/wiki/Пригожин,_Евгений_Викторович">did not remove.</a></div></div><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248129851"><div class="wp-signpost-block-2 wp-signpost-block-2-narrow"> <p><i><a href="/wiki/The_Economist" title="The Economist">The Economist</a></i> <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.economist.com/europe/2024/07/09/the-kremlin-is-rewriting-wikipedia">[1]</a> (paywalled, syndicated <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/rewriting-history-in-real-time-russia-builds-wikipedia-copy-with-a-few-edits-20240710-p5jslj.html">here</a>) notes that <a href="/wiki/Ruwiki_(Wikipedia_fork)" title="Ruwiki (Wikipedia fork)">Ruwiki.ru</a>, Putin's fork of the real Russian Wikipedia, censors "the sensitive zones of Putinist ideology: LGBT rights, oral sex, Soviet history, and the war in Ukraine." (See also <i>The Signpost's</i> June 2023 coverage about the project's genesis: "<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-06-05/News_and_notes#Wikimedia_Russia_director_starts_Russian_fork_and_is_replaced" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-06-05/News and notes">Wikimedia Russia director starts Russian fork and is replaced</a>"). </p><p><i><a href="/wiki/The_Week" title="The Week">The Week</a></i> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://theweek.com/tech/ruwiki-russian-wikipedia-rival-that-censors-everything-from-ukraine-to-oral-sex">expands</a> upon the <i>Economist</i> article (also on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/ruwiki-russian-wikipedia-rival-censors-015425126.html">Yahoo News</a>). It states that the majority of the articles on Putin's fork are just copies from the real Russian Wikipedia, but gives five articles from the real Russian Wikipedia as examples of heavy censorship: <a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%BD,_%D0%95%D0%B2%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87" class="extiw" title="ru:Пригожин, Евгений Викторович">Yevgeny Prigozhin</a>, <a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%BE%D0%B8_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%91%D1%83%D1%87%D1%83" class="extiw" title="ru:Бои за Бучу">Battle of Bucha</a>, <a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%A1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B5%D1%8F_%D0%B8_%D0%AE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B8_%D0%A1%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C" class="extiw" title="ru:Отравление Сергея и Юлии Скрипаль">Poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal</a>, <a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D1%80%D0%B0%CC%81%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D1%81%D0%B5%CC%81%D0%BA%D1%81" class="extiw" title="ru:Ора́льный се́кс">Oral sex</a> and <a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE-%D1%83%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D0%B0" class="extiw" title="ru:Российско-украинская война">Russian-Ukrainian war</a> (starting in 2014). </p><p>This reporter has examined how Putin's fork covered those subjects. </p> <ul><li>There is no article on Putin's fork on the Russian-Ukrainian war starting in 2014.</li> <li>The article on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://ru.ruwiki.ru/wiki/Пригожин,_Евгений_Викторович">Prigozhin</a> does not include a sentence in the real Russian Wikipedia, "According to the Institute for the Study of War (ISW)... the order to kill Prigozhin was almost certainly given by Putin." But it does include a photo of Putin and Prigozhin together, that might be embarrassing to Putin.</li> <li>The battle of Bucha is best represented on Putin's fork in a section of the article Military operations in Ukraine (since 2022) named <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://ru.ruwiki.ru/wiki/Военные_действия_на_Украине_(с_2022)#Инцидент_в_Буче">Incident in Bucha</a> which essentially denies that an incident occurred. As <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-01-31/In_the_media#In_brief" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-01-31/In the media"><i>The Signpost</i> noted in January</a>, an entry corresponding to <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q111467700" class="extiw" title="d:Q111467700">the Wikidata item</a> for <a href="/wiki/Bucha_massacre" title="Bucha massacre">Bucha massacre</a> was also deleted from what appears to be a fork of <a href="/wiki/Wikidata" title="Wikidata">Wikidata</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://data.ruwiki.ru/wiki/Рувики:Main_Page">on the ruwiki.ru website</a>, titled "РУВИКИ.Данные" ("RUWIKI.Data"), according to that wiki's <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://data.ruwiki.ru/w/index.php?title=Служебная:Журналы&type=delete&user=Мирах&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist&uselang=en&offset=&limit=500">deletion log</a> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20240118182412/https://data.ruwiki.ru/w/index.php?title=Служебная:Журналы&type=delete&user=Мирах&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist&uselang=en&offset=&limit=500">archive</a>).</li> <li>The Poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal has an <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://ru.ruwiki.ru/wiki/Отравление_Сергея_и_Юлии_Скрипаль">article of the same name</a> in Putin's fork. About 64% of the article has been removed, but almost all of the photos of related buildings and other locations have been kept.</li> <li>The <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://ru.ruwiki.ru/wiki/Оральный_секс">article on oral sex</a> is about one-third the length of the article on the real Russian Wikipedia and all 3 illustrations have been removed.</li></ul> <p><i><a href="/wiki/Meduza" title="Meduza">Meduza</a></i> <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://meduza.io/en/feature/2024/07/17/the-death-of-the-wikipedia-killer">[2]</a> and <i>Invariant-T</i> <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.t-invariant.org/2024/07/proizoshla-katastroficheskaya-oshibka-bolshuyu-rossijskuyu-entsiklopediyu-mogut-zamenit-ruviki-ili-znanie-viki/">[3]</a>, two Russian news websites which are considered "foreign agents" in Russia, report that the <i><a href="/wiki/Great_Russian_Encyclopedia" title="Great Russian Encyclopedia">Great Russian Encyclopedia</a></i> (<i>BRE</i>) has lost its state funding, maybe in favor of Ruviki and <i><a href="/wiki/Znanie_(educational_organization)" title="Znanie (educational organization)">Znanie</a></i> (<i>Knowledge</i>), another state-funded educational site. </p><p><i>BRE</i> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://vk.com/wall-214731482_1486">announced its closure</a> last month, saying that it had received no funds in the previous five months. Though wages and author royalties have not been paid during that time about 6,000 new articles have been posted. According to the announcement, </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1237805129">.mw-parser-output .talkquote{color:var(--color-base,#202122);background-color:#eaf8f4;border-left:3px solid #008560;padding:0 .8em;margin:0}.mw-parser-output .talkquote-by,.mw-parser-output .talkquote-source{margin-left:1.6em}.mw-parser-output .skin-vector-2022 .talkquote>:last-child{padding-bottom:0}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}</style><blockquote class="talkquote" style="padding-top:1em; padding-bottom:1em;"><p>both resources of the <i>Great Russian Encyclopedia</i> - the portal and the electronic version of the printed edition - have published more than 100 thousand articles, and the number of reader requests to our encyclopedia reaches 1 million per week. We - more than 300 editorial staff and a team of 7,000 authors - are now able to prepare and publish up to 30 thousand scientifically verified articles per year. </p></blockquote> <dl><dd><span style="font-size:85%;">–<a href="/wiki/User:Smallbones" title="User:Smallbones"> S</a></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Indian_news_agency_sues_Wikipedia_over_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Indian_news_agency_sues_Wikipedia_over_article-signpost-article-title"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Indian_news_agency_sues_Wikipedia_over_article-signpost-article-title"></span>Indian news agency sues Wikipedia over article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Indian_news_agency_sues_Wikipedia_over_article-signpost-article-title"></span></h3></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1240928998"></div><div class="signpost-sidebar signpost-sidebar-fillerimage"><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><span><video id="mwe_player_0" poster="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Wikipedia_-_Ektara_%28English_subtitles%29.webm/300px--Wikipedia_-_Ektara_%28English_subtitles%29.webm.jpg" controls="" preload="none" data-mw-tmh="" class="mw-file-element" width="300" height="169" data-durationhint="145" data-mwtitle="Wikipedia_-_Ektara_(English_subtitles).webm" data-mwprovider="wikimediacommons"><source src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/e/e2/Wikipedia_-_Ektara_%28English_subtitles%29.webm/Wikipedia_-_Ektara_%28English_subtitles%29.webm.480p.vp9.webm" type="video/webm; codecs="vp9, opus"" data-transcodekey="480p.vp9.webm" data-width="854" data-height="480"/><source src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/e/e2/Wikipedia_-_Ektara_%28English_subtitles%29.webm/Wikipedia_-_Ektara_%28English_subtitles%29.webm.720p.vp9.webm" type="video/webm; codecs="vp9, opus"" data-transcodekey="720p.vp9.webm" data-width="1280" data-height="720"/><source src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Wikipedia_-_Ektara_%28English_subtitles%29.webm" type="video/webm; codecs="vp8, vorbis"" data-width="1280" data-height="720"/><source src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/e/e2/Wikipedia_-_Ektara_%28English_subtitles%29.webm/Wikipedia_-_Ektara_%28English_subtitles%29.webm.240p.vp9.webm" type="video/webm; codecs="vp9, opus"" data-transcodekey="240p.vp9.webm" data-width="426" data-height="240"/><source src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/e/e2/Wikipedia_-_Ektara_%28English_subtitles%29.webm/Wikipedia_-_Ektara_%28English_subtitles%29.webm.360p.vp9.webm" type="video/webm; codecs="vp9, opus"" data-transcodekey="360p.vp9.webm" data-width="640" data-height="360"/><source src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/e/e2/Wikipedia_-_Ektara_%28English_subtitles%29.webm/Wikipedia_-_Ektara_%28English_subtitles%29.webm.360p.webm" type="video/webm; codecs="vp8, vorbis"" data-transcodekey="360p.webm" data-width="640" data-height="360"/></video></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure><div class="signpost-fillerimage"><i>Ektara</i>, from the 2018 Wikimedia Foundation television outreach campaign in India.</div></div><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248129851"><div class="wp-signpost-block-2 wp-signpost-block-2-narrow"> <p><a href="/wiki/Mass_media_in_India" title="Mass media in India">Mass media in India</a> continues to take an interest in how the <a href="/wiki/Government_of_India" title="Government of India">government of India</a> reacts to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_in_India" title="Wikipedia in India">Wikipedia in India</a>. <i><a href="/wiki/The_Hindu" title="The Hindu">The Hindu</a></i> <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/wikipedia-parent-responds-ani-defamation-suit-says-content-by-volunteer-editors/article68395472.ece">[4]</a> and <i><a href="/wiki/Outlook_(Indian_magazine)" title="Outlook (Indian magazine)">Outlook</a></i> <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.outlookindia.com/national/delhi-hc-issues-notice-to-wikipedia-over-allowing-defamatory-edits-to-ani-page">[5]</a> report that media house <a href="/wiki/Asian_News_International" title="Asian News International">Asian News International</a> (ANI) objects to the Wikipedia's article about ANI. </p><p>According to <i>The Hindu</i>; </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237805129"><blockquote class="talkquote" style="padding-top:1em; padding-bottom:1em;"><p>The case pits, potentially for the first time in such a significant way, Wikipedia’s volunteer-centric editorial norms against Indian regulations like the IT Rules, 2021, which require all loosely defined internet "intermediaries" to take action against content online if it is, among other things, defamatory, and a court or government order is issued against them. </p></blockquote> <p>The court case is scheduled for August 20 with ANI claiming damages of 2 crore rupees – about <span style="white-space: nowrap">US$240,000</span>. </p><p>Live Law, a legal reporting service, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20240709061056/https://www.livelaw.in/high-court/delhi-high-court/delhi-high-court-ani-wikipedia-defamation-262700">states</a> (archive) that ANI's plea (or complaint) claims that "Wikipedia had closed the ANI page for editing by the news agency except for its own (Wikipedia) editors". This suggests that ANI is claiming a right to have its own employees edit the article despite Wikipedia's policy prohibiting <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UPE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UPE">undeclared paid editors</a>. </p><p>Live Law also says that "ANI has alleged that Wikimedia, through its officials, has actively participated in removing the edits to reverse the content." This claim appears to confuse actions by unpaid volunteers with actions by Wikimedia Foundation employees. </p><p>The Wikipedia article appears to summarize and cite reliable journalism covering ANI, and the complaint seems not to be about the journalism, but rather that Wikipedia presents what journalists wrote elsewhere then links to those articles. </p><p>One possible complication is that the Wikipedia community does not consider ANI to be a generally reliable source. The report at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RSPANI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RSPANI">The Wikipedia project <i>Reliable sources/Perennial sources</i></a> says </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237805129"><blockquote class="talkquote" style="padding-top:1em; padding-bottom:1em;"><p>For general reporting, Asian News International is considered to be between <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MREL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MREL">marginally reliable</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GUNREL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GUNREL">generally unreliable</a>, with consensus that it is biased and that it should be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:INTEXT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:INTEXT">attributed in-text</a> for contentious claims. For its coverage related to Indian domestic politics, foreign politics, and other topics in which the <a href="/wiki/Government_of_India" title="Government of India">Government of India</a> may have an established stake, there is consensus that Asian News International is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:QUESTIONABLE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:QUESTIONABLE">questionable</a> and generally unreliable due to its reported dissemination of pro-government propaganda. </p></blockquote> <p>This view is based on a 2021 <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_331#RfC:_Asian_News_International_(ANI)" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 331">request for comment</a> where <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-55232432">a BBC news report</a> on disinformation in India was prominently mentioned. </p><p>- <span style="font-size:85%;"><a href="/wiki/User:Smallbones" title="User:Smallbones">S</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Bluerasberry" title="User:Bluerasberry">BR</a></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Harrison_interviewed_on_forthcoming_novel" data-mw-thread-id="h-Harrison_interviewed_on_forthcoming_novel-signpost-article-title"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Harrison_interviewed_on_forthcoming_novel-signpost-article-title"></span>Harrison interviewed on forthcoming novel<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Harrison_interviewed_on_forthcoming_novel-signpost-article-title"></span></h3></div> <p>Wikipedia <a href="/wiki/Beat_reporting" title="Beat reporting">beat reporter</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Stephen_Harrison" title="Wikipedia:Stephen Harrison">Stephen Harrison</a>, whose novel <i>The Editors</i> will be published August 13, was interviewed at least three times this month. The editor of <i><a href="/wiki/Student_Life_(newspaper)" title="Student Life (newspaper)">Student Life</a></i>, the student newspaper at <a href="/wiki/Washington_University_in_St._Louis" title="Washington University in St. Louis">Washington University in St. Louis</a> where Harrison attended, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.studlife.com/special-issues/starting-line/starting-line-2024/2024/07/08/ctrlaltdelete-qa-with-author-stephen-harrison-about-his-upcoming-novel-the-editors-and-the-digital-landscape">published</a> a long, detailed interview which gives the best overview of Harrison's career, but is mostly about the new novel, and about Wikipedia and its fictionalized version, Infopendium, which is the focus of the story. </p><p>Harrison has started another book, a murder mystery set at the <a href="/wiki/Federal_Reserve" title="Federal Reserve">Federal Reserve</a>, where he used to work. </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237805129"><blockquote class="talkquote" style="padding-top:1em; padding-bottom:1em;"><p>it gets into what I am really interested in, which are institutions that are experiencing a crisis. The Fed currently fits that description — people are not happy about inflation, and there’s even questions about: what is money, and what is currency? </p></blockquote> <p>Another interview, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://taylordibbert.medium.com/stephen-harrison-on-books-and-writing-934b09b8d1a1">posted</a> at <a href="/wiki/Medium_(website)" title="Medium (website)">Medium</a> by Taylor Dibbert, focuses on Harrison's writing routine. He tries to write 1–2 hours a day before going to his day job as a lawyer, but first he starts with a cup of coffee and reading 15 minutes worth of fiction. He starts writing with his favorite pen and paper, but often switches to computer. </p><p>Citing the <a href="/wiki/Epigraph_(literature)" title="Epigraph (literature)">epigraph</a> of the forthcoming book "this is a reported work of fiction", Harrrison continues "ultimately, I hope to be known for producing smart and well-researched stories throughout my career." </p><p>A third interview, this one by <a href="/wiki/Caitlin_Dewey" title="Caitlin Dewey">Caitlin Dewey</a> on her <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://linksiwouldgchatyou.substack.com/p/wikipedia-says-no-individual-has">"Links" blog</a>, is more quirky. She starts with a question about "the four 'periods' of Wikipedia journalism", citing an essay Harrison co-authored with Omer Benjakob for the book <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_@_20" title="Wikipedia @ 20">Wikipedia @ 20</a></i> which was <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2021-01-31/In_focus" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2021-01-31/In focus">reprinted</a> in <i>The Signpost</i>. Which period does the novel take place in? Harrison invents a new period and answers it "falls in the pre-AI, post-glory-days period of Wikipedia." </p><p>Dewey also asks about whether Wikipedia is past its glory days, and about Harrison's day-to-day interaction with Wikipedians, as well as about celebrity Wikipedians. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="In_brief" data-mw-thread-id="h-In_brief-signpost-article-title"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-In_brief-signpost-article-title"></span>In brief<span data-mw-comment-end="h-In_brief-signpost-article-title"></span></h3></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1240928998"></div><div class="signpost-sidebar signpost-sidebar-fillerimage"><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Ewe_sheep_black_and_white.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/Ewe_sheep_black_and_white.jpg/300px-Ewe_sheep_black_and_white.jpg" decoding="async" width="300" height="255" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/Ewe_sheep_black_and_white.jpg/450px-Ewe_sheep_black_and_white.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/Ewe_sheep_black_and_white.jpg/600px-Ewe_sheep_black_and_white.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3037" data-file-height="2578"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><div class="signpost-fillerimage">Embrace me, my sweet <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk2pwv69-xg">embraceable ewe</a></div></div><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248129851"><div class="wp-signpost-block-2 wp-signpost-block-2-narrow"> <ul><li><b>Get over yourself</b>: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://thearabianpost.com/can-wikipedia-editors-get-over-themselves-and-embrace-ai/">"Can Wikipedia Editors Get Over Themselves and Embrace AI?"</a> (<i>The Arabian Post</i>) Perhaps as a reminder that Wikipedia is <a href="/wiki/Drinking_age_in_the_United_States" class="mw-redirect" title="Drinking age in the United States">old enough to drink</a>, and many of our community processes, policies, and norms are now decades old, the author states "The Wikipedia community should embrace a spirit of experimentation."</li> <li><b> What if you tried to print Wikipedia?</b>: Following a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://what-if.xkcd.com/59/">2013 cartoon</a>, a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgBYohJ7mIk">July 2024 video</a> from Randall Munroe of <i><a href="/wiki/XKCD" class="mw-redirect" title="XKCD">XKCD</a></i> goes deep into the details. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://laughingsquid.com/printing-out-all-of-wikipedia/">Laughing Squid</a> essentially provides a text version of the video.</li></ul> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1240928998"></div><div class="signpost-sidebar signpost-sidebar-fillerimage"><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Albert_Einstein_sticks_his_tongue_1951.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Albert_Einstein_sticks_his_tongue_1951.jpg/300px-Albert_Einstein_sticks_his_tongue_1951.jpg" decoding="async" width="300" height="354" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Albert_Einstein_sticks_his_tongue_1951.jpg/450px-Albert_Einstein_sticks_his_tongue_1951.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Albert_Einstein_sticks_his_tongue_1951.jpg/600px-Albert_Einstein_sticks_his_tongue_1951.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1514" data-file-height="1789"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><div class="signpost-fillerimage">Conservapedia reports <a href="/wiki/Conservapedia#Relativity" title="Conservapedia">Einstein's liberal theories</a></div></div><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248129851"><div class="wp-signpost-block-2 wp-signpost-block-2-narrow"> <ul><li><b>The road not taken</b>: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2024/07/16/conservapedia-wikipedia">"What is Conservapedia? The right-wing, conservative alternative to Wikipedia"</a> explains how <a href="/wiki/Conservapedia#Relativity" title="Conservapedia">Conservapedia presents Einstein's Theory of Relativity as a liberal conspiracy</a>, among other differences from Wikipedia (<i><a href="/wiki/Here_and_Now_(Boston)" title="Here and Now (Boston)">Here and Now</a></i> radio program from Boston)</li> <li><b>Mi'kmaq edit-a-thon</b>: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dal.ca/news/2024/07/08/wikipedia-edit-a-thon-mikmaw.html">Dal News</a> at Canada's <a href="/wiki/Dalhousie_University" title="Dalhousie University">Dalhousie University</a> reports on an edit-a-thon focusing on the <a href="/wiki/Mi%27kmaq" title="Mi'kmaq">Mi'kmaq</a> of the Atlantic provinces. Articles improved include "fiddler <a href="/wiki/Lee_Cremo" title="Lee Cremo">Lee Cremo</a>, artist <a href="/wiki/Ursula_Johnson" title="Ursula Johnson">Ursula Johnson</a>, activist <a href="/wiki/Anna_Mae_Aquash" title="Anna Mae Aquash">Anna Mae Aquash</a>, [and] the first Mi'kmaq elected as Grand Chief, <a href="/wiki/Gabriel_Sylliboy" title="Gabriel Sylliboy">Gabriel Sylliboy</a>."</li> <li><b>Wales warns of addictive nature of social media</b>: Jimbo is <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://asia.nikkei.com/Editor-s-Picks/Interview/Wikipedia-s-Jimmy-Wales-warns-of-addictive-nature-of-social-media">interviewed</a> in <i><a href="/wiki/NikkeiAsia" class="mw-redirect" title="NikkeiAsia">NikkeiAsia</a></i>. Much of his message is standard Jimbology: social media can be addictive (which is bad), <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_and_fact-checking" title="Wikipedia and fact-checking">Wikipedians fact-check</a> articles (which is good), but we have vandals and trolls (bad), the WMF's finances are fairly solid (good). It gets more interesting when he is asked about AI. "I think it's better if AI is trained on Wikipedia than if it's trained on Facebook or X. What we ask for in return is citation credit. A link back to us, this is important, so people can understand where the knowledge comes from."</li> <li><b>The most amazing Wikipedia page in history</b>: After the <a href="/wiki/Trump_assassination_attempt" class="mw-redirect" title="Trump assassination attempt">Trump assassination attempt</a> on July 13, <i><a href="/wiki/The_Intercept" title="The Intercept">The Intercept</a></i> writer Murtaza Hussain tweeted "Say what you want about Trump but he is going to have the most amazing Wikipedia page in history." <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://x.com/MazMHussain/status/1812276451032338480">[6]</a> Obviously Hussain has never read the articles on <a href="/wiki/Seth_Kinman" title="Seth Kinman">Seth Kinman</a> or <a href="/wiki/Yola_Letellier" title="Yola Letellier">Yola Letellier</a>.</li> <li><b>Come to the dark side</b>: dark mode now available for mobile <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://techcrunch.com/2024/07/12/wikipedias-mobile-website-finally-gets-a-dark-mode-heres-how-to-turn-it-on/">[7]</a></li> <li><b>Edit-a-thon in India</b>: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/students-addressing-gender-disparities-on-wikipedia/articleshow/111561753.cms"><i>The Times of India</i></a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://en.themooknayak.com/uncategorized/wikipedia-edit-a-thon-at-iit-delhi-nurturing-diversity-and-collaboration"><i>The Mooknayak</i></a> cover an edit-a-thon in Dehli that sought to take on Wikipedia's gender gap.</li></ul> <p><br/><br/> </p> <div style="text-align:center"><small><i>Do you want to contribute to "In the media" by writing a story or even just an "in brief" item? 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To follow comments, <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/In_the_media&action=watch">add the page to your watchlist</a>.</span> If your comment has not appeared here, you can try <span class="noprint plainlinks purgelink"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/In_the_media&action=purge"><span title="Purge this page">purging the cache</span></a></span>.</div><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1240928998"><div class="nomobile"></div> <ul><li><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">Obviously <em>she</em> has never read the articles</q> - huh? <a href="/wiki/User:TrangaBellam" title="User:TrangaBellam">TrangaBellam</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TrangaBellam" title="User talk:TrangaBellam">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/In_the_media#c-TrangaBellam-20240722100400-Discuss_this_story" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:04, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TrangaBellam-20240722100400-Discuss_this_story"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TrangaBellam-20240722100400-Discuss_this_story"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smallbones-20240722125400-TrangaBellam-20240722100400"></span>Whoops! From the X photo it should be "He". Good catch. I'll change "she" to "Hussain" (to avoid any confusion with "Trump"). And "obviously" is probably not the best word, the only thing obvious here is that different people have different views on what is the most amazing article. <a href="/wiki/User:Smallbones" title="User:Smallbones">Smallbones</a><sub>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Smallbones" title="User talk:Smallbones"><span style="color: #cc6600;">smalltalk</span></a>)</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/In_the_media#c-Smallbones-20240722125400-TrangaBellam-20240722100400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:54, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smallbones-20240722125400-TrangaBellam-20240722100400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smallbones-20240722125400-TrangaBellam-20240722100400"></span></li></ul></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BilboBeggins-20240722145100-TrangaBellam-20240722100400"></span>There are different spellings in the article — ruwiki and ruviki. Also, it's funny that the main fork, the one that was started by former Wikipedia admins before Ruwiki was even announced, is almost never mentioned in the various articles about Wikipedia forks. <a href="/wiki/User:BilboBeggins" title="User:BilboBeggins">BilboBeggins</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BilboBeggins" title="User talk:BilboBeggins">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/In_the_media#c-BilboBeggins-20240722145100-TrangaBellam-20240722100400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:51, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BilboBeggins-20240722145100-TrangaBellam-20240722100400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BilboBeggins-20240722145100-TrangaBellam-20240722100400"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smallbones-20240723230100-BilboBeggins-20240722145100"></span>The single use of the word Ruviki in the article was included because the source used that word. RuWiki again was used because a link used the word. I think the most obnoxious thing about Putin's fork was that they stole the name RuWiki. It completely gives away their game, the fork is trying to pretend it's the real Russian Wikipedia, it's not. I think that people who intentionally try to confuse the issue also give themselves away. <a href="/wiki/User:Smallbones" title="User:Smallbones">Smallbones</a><sub>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Smallbones" title="User talk:Smallbones"><span style="color: #cc6600;">smalltalk</span></a>)</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/In_the_media#c-Smallbones-20240723230100-BilboBeggins-20240722145100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:01, 23 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smallbones-20240723230100-BilboBeggins-20240722145100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smallbones-20240723230100-BilboBeggins-20240722145100"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BilboBeggins-20240728131400-Smallbones-20240723230100"></span>"I think the most obnoxious thing about Putin's fork was that they stole the name RuWiki" — that was the reason that got User:Dmitry Rozhkov blocked. <a href="/wiki/User:BilboBeggins" title="User:BilboBeggins">BilboBeggins</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BilboBeggins" title="User talk:BilboBeggins">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/In_the_media#c-BilboBeggins-20240728131400-Smallbones-20240723230100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:14, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BilboBeggins-20240728131400-Smallbones-20240723230100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BilboBeggins-20240728131400-Smallbones-20240723230100"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_wub-20240728151100-BilboBeggins-20240728131400"></span>I just think it's funny their url is ru.ruwiki.ru. Did they make it clear enough that it's Russian? <a href="/wiki/User:The_wub" title="User:The wub">the wub</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_wub" title="User talk:The wub"><span style="color: #080;">"?!"</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/In_the_media#c-The_wub-20240728151100-BilboBeggins-20240728131400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:11, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_wub-20240728151100-BilboBeggins-20240728131400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_wub-20240728151100-BilboBeggins-20240728131400"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Retired_electrician-20240722233700-TrangaBellam-20240722100400"></span>"But it does include a photo of Putin and Prigozhin together, that might be embarrassing to Putin"</i> - not really. A <a href="/wiki/File:Memorial_dedicated_to_the_Wagner_Group_20230904_142850.jpg" title="File:Memorial dedicated to the Wagner Group 20230904 142850.jpg">twenty-meter-wide memorial</a> to Prigozhin and company, just 360 meters from the Kremlin wall, next to the FSO block - apparently does not offend him. Neither does the tag line "memorial Ye. V. Prigozhinu and D. V. Utkinu" (sic, direct transliteration from ru) on Yandex maps, both ru and en editions. Why would then anyone care about some below-the-radar wikiclone? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Retired_electrician&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Retired electrician (page does not exist)">Retired electrician</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Retired_electrician" title="User talk:Retired electrician">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/In_the_media#c-Retired_electrician-20240722233700-TrangaBellam-20240722100400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:37, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Retired_electrician-20240722233700-TrangaBellam-20240722100400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Retired_electrician-20240722233700-TrangaBellam-20240722100400"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smallbones-20240723230100-Retired_electrician-20240722233700"></span>A bunch of flowers, some photos, and a banner or two that are up for only a week or so are not going to embarrass Putin. A photo of him standing besides a man he reportedly ordered murdered should if he isn't beneath having shame. Isn't this just the latest example of his claim of having them "liquidated in the outhouse"? <a href="/wiki/User:Smallbones" title="User:Smallbones">Smallbones</a><sub>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Smallbones" title="User talk:Smallbones"><span style="color: #cc6600;">smalltalk</span></a>)</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/In_the_media#c-Smallbones-20240723230100-Retired_electrician-20240722233700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:01, 23 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smallbones-20240723230100-Retired_electrician-20240722233700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smallbones-20240723230100-Retired_electrician-20240722233700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Retired_electrician-20240724114000-Smallbones-20240723230100"></span>Not a week but almost a year. Not one banner but dozens. It's still there, daily maintained. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Retired_electrician&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Retired electrician (page does not exist)">Retired electrician</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Retired_electrician" title="User talk:Retired electrician">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/In_the_media#c-Retired_electrician-20240724114000-Smallbones-20240723230100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:40, 24 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Retired_electrician-20240724114000-Smallbones-20240723230100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Retired_electrician-20240724114000-Smallbones-20240723230100"></span></dd></dl></li></ul></li> <li><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ciridae-20240813083900-TrangaBellam-20240722100400"></span>Delhi</i> is misspelled as Dehli (in the last sentence of the article). <a href="/wiki/User:Ciridae" title="User:Ciridae">Ciridae</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ciridae" title="User talk:Ciridae">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/In_the_media#c-Ciridae-20240813083900-TrangaBellam-20240722100400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:39, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ciridae-20240813083900-TrangaBellam-20240722100400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ciridae-20240813083900-TrangaBellam-20240722100400"></span><br/><div style="clear:both;"></div></li></ul></div></div><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1240929115">.mw-parser-output .signpost-footer{padding-top:2em}.mw-parser-output .signpost-issue-navigation,.mw-parser-output .signpost-ticker,.mw-parser-output .signpost-linkbar{box-sizing:border-box;clear:both;font-family:Georgia,Palatino,Palatino Linotype,Times,Times New Roman,serif;width:100%}.mw-parser-output .signpost-issue-navigation{font-size:116%;display:flex;flex-direction:row;flex-wrap:wrap;font-style:italic;gap:1em;justify-content:space-between;padding:0 2vw;margin:0.5em 0}.mw-parser-output .signpost-issue-nav-casing{font-size:80%;text-transform:uppercase}.mw-parser-output .signpost-ticker{border-top:3px double #BBB;color:var(--color-subtle,#333);font-size:110%;padding:5px 2vw;text-align:center;text-transform:uppercase}.mw-parser-output .signpost-linkbar{border-top:1px solid #999;padding:3px 2vw}.mw-parser-output .signpost-linkbar>div{color:#444;display:flex;flex-flow:row wrap;flex-wrap:wrap;justify-content:center;font-size:90%;margin:0 auto;max-width:80em;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .signpost-linkbar>div>div{display:inline-block;flex:1 1 auto;min-width:6em}</style> <div class="signpost-footer"> <div class="signpost-issue-navigation noprint"></div> <div class="signpost-ticker"><i>The Signpost</i> needs your help <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Quick_Start" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Quick Start">putting together the next issue</a>.</div> <div class="signpost-linkbar"> <div> <div><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost">Home</a></div> <div><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/About" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/About">About</a></div> <div><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Archives" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Archives">Archives</a></div> <div><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom">Newsroom</a></div> <div><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe">Subscribe</a></div> <div><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions">Suggestions</a></span></div> </div></div></div>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1&useformat=desktop" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; 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