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title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-11&end=2024-11-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Lectka Reaction">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lectka_Reaction&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Lectka+Reaction%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lectka_Reaction&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Lectka+Reaction%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lectka_Reaction&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Lectka+Reaction%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ]</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Lectka_Enantioselective_Beta-Lactam_Synthesis" title="Lectka Enantioselective Beta-Lactam Synthesis">Lectka Enantioselective Beta-Lactam Synthesis</a> → <a href="/wiki/%CE%92-Lactam" title="Β-Lactam">Β-Lactam</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Lectka_Enantioselective_Beta-Lactam_Synthesis" title="Talk:Lectka Enantioselective Beta-Lactam Synthesis">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Lectka_Enantioselective_Beta-Lactam_Synthesis" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Lectka Enantioselective Beta-Lactam Synthesis">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Lectka_Enantioselective_Beta-Lactam_Synthesis" title="Special:PageHistory/Lectka Enantioselective Beta-Lactam Synthesis">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-11%26end%3D2024-11-09%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DLectka_Enantioselective_Beta-Lactam_Synthesis" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-11&end=2024-11-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Lectka Enantioselective Beta-Lactam Synthesis">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lectka_Enantioselective_Beta-Lactam_Synthesis&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Lectka+Enantioselective+Beta-Lactam+Synthesis%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lectka_Enantioselective_Beta-Lactam_Synthesis&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Lectka+Enantioselective+Beta-Lactam+Synthesis%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lectka_Enantioselective_Beta-Lactam_Synthesis&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Lectka+Enantioselective+Beta-Lactam+Synthesis%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ]</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Lectka_Asymmetric_Beta-Lactam_Synthesis" title="Lectka Asymmetric Beta-Lactam Synthesis">Lectka Asymmetric Beta-Lactam Synthesis</a> → <a href="/wiki/%CE%92-Lactam" title="Β-Lactam">Β-Lactam</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lectka_Asymmetric_Beta-Lactam_Synthesis&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Lectka Asymmetric Beta-Lactam Synthesis (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Lectka_Asymmetric_Beta-Lactam_Synthesis" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Lectka Asymmetric Beta-Lactam Synthesis">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Lectka_Asymmetric_Beta-Lactam_Synthesis" title="Special:PageHistory/Lectka Asymmetric Beta-Lactam Synthesis">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-11%26end%3D2024-11-09%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DLectka_Asymmetric_Beta-Lactam_Synthesis" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-11&end=2024-11-09&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Lectka Asymmetric Beta-Lactam Synthesis">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lectka_Asymmetric_Beta-Lactam_Synthesis&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Lectka+Asymmetric+Beta-Lactam+Synthesis%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lectka_Asymmetric_Beta-Lactam_Synthesis&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Lectka+Asymmetric+Beta-Lactam+Synthesis%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lectka_Asymmetric_Beta-Lactam_Synthesis&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Lectka+Asymmetric+Beta-Lactam+Synthesis%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ] </li></ul> The top redirect was previously an article that was redirected per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lectka_enantioselective_beta-lactam_synthesis" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lectka enantioselective beta-lactam synthesis">Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lectka_enantioselective_beta-lactam_synthesis</a>, apparently to preserve the option for a partial merge. But no merge has occurred, nor has any interest in doing so been expressed, nor do I think there is any content worth merging. There is no evidence this is a named reaction that is common enough to merit mention in the article. Delete all. <a href="/wiki/User:Mdewman6" title="User:Mdewman6">Mdewman6</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mdewman6" title="User talk:Mdewman6">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Mdewman6-20241110073700-Lectka_enantioselective_beta-lactam_synthesis" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:37, 10 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process">Relisted</a> to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:ThadeusOfNazereth" title="User:ThadeusOfNazereth">ThadeusOfNazereth</a>(he/him)<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ThadeusOfNazereth" title="User talk:ThadeusOfNazereth">Talk to Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-ThadeusOfNazereth-20241123000300-Mdewman6-20241110073700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:03, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Coramandal_FC" data-mw-thread-id="h-Coramandal_FC-November_22-20241103092000">Coramandal FC</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Coramandal FC">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Coramandal_FC" title="Coramandal FC">Coramandal FC</a> → <a href="/wiki/Andhra_Pradesh_Football_Association" title="Andhra Pradesh Football Association">Andhra Pradesh Football Association</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Coramandal_FC&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Coramandal FC (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Coramandal_FC" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Coramandal FC">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Coramandal_FC" title="Special:PageHistory/Coramandal FC">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-04%26end%3D2024-11-02%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DCoramandal_FC" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-04&end=2024-11-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Coramandal FC">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Coramandal_FC&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Coramandal+FC%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Coramandal_FC&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Coramandal+FC%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Coramandal_FC&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Coramandal+FC%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ] </li></ul> should be deleted until there is a list of associated football clubs in the target page. -<a href="/wiki/User:MPGuy2824" title="User:MPGuy2824">MPGuy2824</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MPGuy2824" title="User talk:MPGuy2824">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-MPGuy2824-20241103092000-Coramandal_FC" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:20, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Weak retarget to <a href="/wiki/Coromandel_International" title="Coromandel International">Coromandel International</a> which is the target of <a href="/wiki/Coromandel_FC" class="mw-redirect" title="Coromandel FC">Coromandel FC</a>.<a href="/wiki/User:Jay" title="User:Jay"> Jay</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jay" title="User talk:Jay"> 💬</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Jay-20241110100100-MPGuy2824-20241103092000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:01, 10 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process">Relisted</a> to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Explicit" title="User:Explicit">✗</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Explicit" title="User talk:Explicit">plicit</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Explicit-20241110140900-MPGuy2824-20241103092000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:09, 10 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process">Relisted</a> to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:ThadeusOfNazereth" title="User:ThadeusOfNazereth">ThadeusOfNazereth</a>(he/him)<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ThadeusOfNazereth" title="User talk:ThadeusOfNazereth">Talk to Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-ThadeusOfNazereth-20241123000200-MPGuy2824-20241103092000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:02, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Retarget to <a href="/wiki/List_of_football_clubs_in_India" title="List of football clubs in India">List of football clubs in India</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Shhhnotsoloud" title="User:Shhhnotsoloud">Shhhnotsoloud</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shhhnotsoloud" title="User talk:Shhhnotsoloud">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Shhhnotsoloud-20241124122000-MPGuy2824-20241103092000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:20, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Retarget to <a href="/wiki/List_of_football_clubs_in_India#Andhra_Pradesh" title="List of football clubs in India">List of football clubs in India#Andhra Pradesh</a>. This could have been done without a discussion. <a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask">Daask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daask" title="User talk:Daask">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Daask-20241127092000-MPGuy2824-20241103092000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:20, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Racial_violence" data-mw-thread-id="h-Racial_violence-November_22-20241107155700">Racial violence</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Racial violence">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Racial_violence" title="Racial violence">Racial violence</a> → <a href="/wiki/Ethnic_conflict" title="Ethnic conflict">Ethnic conflict</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Racial_violence&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Racial violence (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Racial_violence" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Racial violence">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Racial_violence" title="Special:PageHistory/Racial violence">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-16%26end%3D2024-11-14%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DRacial_violence" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-16&end=2024-11-14&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Racial violence">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Racial_violence&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Racial+violence%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Racial_violence&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Racial+violence%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Racial_violence&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Racial+violence%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ] </li></ul> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Racially_motivated_violence" title="Racially motivated violence">Racially motivated violence</a> → <a href="/wiki/Ethnic_conflict" title="Ethnic conflict">Ethnic conflict</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Racially_motivated_violence&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Racially motivated violence (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Racially_motivated_violence" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Racially motivated violence">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Racially_motivated_violence" title="Special:PageHistory/Racially motivated violence">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-08%26end%3D2024-11-06%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DRacially_motivated_violence" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-08&end=2024-11-06&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Racially motivated violence">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Racially_motivated_violence&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Racially+motivated+violence%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Racially_motivated_violence&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Racially+motivated+violence%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Racially_motivated_violence&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Racially+motivated+violence%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ] </li></ul> Only four articles currently make use of this redirect. In all four cases, "<a href="/wiki/Hate_crime" title="Hate crime">hate crime</a>" would be a more appropriate target than "<a href="/wiki/Ethnic_conflict" title="Ethnic conflict">ethnic conflict</a>". So I suggest retargeting the redirect to "<a href="/wiki/Hate_crime" title="Hate crime">hate crime</a>". <a href="/wiki/User:Jean-de-Nivelle" title="User:Jean-de-Nivelle">Jean-de-Nivelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jean-de-Nivelle" title="User talk:Jean-de-Nivelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Jean-de-Nivelle-20241107155700-Racial_violence" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:57, 7 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Comment <a href="/wiki/Racial_violence" title="Racial violence">Racial violence</a> redirects here too, should the two be considered together? <a href="/wiki/User:Thryduulf" title="User:Thryduulf">Thryduulf</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thryduulf" title="User talk:Thryduulf">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Thryduulf-20241108204100-Jean-de-Nivelle-20241107155700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:41, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/da#Interjection" class="extiw" title="wikt:da">Da</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hyphenation_Expert&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hyphenation Expert (page does not exist)">Hyphenation Expert</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hyphenation_Expert" title="User talk:Hyphenation Expert">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Hyphenation_Expert-20241108224200-Thryduulf-20241108204100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:42, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process">Relisted</a> to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Bundled together with <a href="/wiki/Racial_violence" title="Racial violence">Racial violence</a> and relisting for further input. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:CycloneYoris" title="User:CycloneYoris">CycloneYoris</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:CycloneYoris" title="User talk:CycloneYoris">talk!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-CycloneYoris-20241115044700-Jean-de-Nivelle-20241107155700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:47, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>tendency to Oppose. I looked at four of the roughly 30 articles that have the redirect <a href="/wiki/Racial_violence" title="Racial violence">racial violence</a>. The legal formulation of <a href="/wiki/Hate_crime" title="Hate crime">hate crime</a> seems to be fairly modern, from the 1980s - although per our article it's used retrospectively to interpret older events, and the article seems mostly to cover the legal aspects of the topic. <a href="/wiki/Ethnic_conflict" title="Ethnic conflict">Ethnic conflict</a> seems to be a broader article including those hate crimes patterns that evolve into major (often intra-state) armed conflicts. The intended usage of <a href="/wiki/Racial_violence" title="Racial violence">racial violence</a> seems to be somewhere in between and overlapping hate crime and ethnic conflict, in terms of the current state of the articles. I think that the different focus of the two articles is in some sense in singular - hate crime - versus ethnic conflict = plural hate crimes (pattern of many events on scales going up to 100s or millions of victims). Scale is a natural way to divide topics - when a set of hate crimes constitutes a <a href="/wiki/Crime_against_humanity" class="mw-redirect" title="Crime against humanity">crime against humanity</a> or a <a href="/wiki/Genocide" title="Genocide">genocide</a> is not purely a case of scale, but scale clearly contributes. My feeling is that the relevance of <a href="/wiki/Racial_violence" title="Racial violence">racial violence</a> as a link is to the broader pattern of multiple hate crimes, not so much individual ones. Caveat: I arbitrarily selected only four out of about 30 links - so this may misrepresent the more common usage. There is a see also link from ethnic conflict to hate crime, so a reader looking thoroughly may find that anyway. <a href="/wiki/User:Boud" title="User:Boud">Boud</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Boud" title="User talk:Boud">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Boud-20241118030300-Jean-de-Nivelle-20241107155700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:03, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>I think adding "<a href="/wiki/Racial_violence" title="Racial violence">Racial violence</a>" to this discussion has confused the issue a little. My initial proposal was for "<a href="/wiki/Racially_motivated_violence" title="Racially motivated violence">Racially motivated violence</a>" to be retargeted to "<a href="/wiki/Hate_crime" title="Hate crime">Hate crime</a>" because the usage seems more consistent with that definition. The case for "<a href="/wiki/Racial_violence" title="Racial violence">Racial violence</a>" is much less clear. Certainly, scale plays a part. I recently created the redirect "<a href="/wiki/Racially_motivated_attack" class="mw-redirect" title="Racially motivated attack">Racially motivated attack</a>". A racially motivated attack is a hate crime and an example of racially motivated violence, but doesn't necessarily imply ethnic conflict in the sense described by our article on that subject. An example is the <a href="/wiki/Murder_of_Stephen_Lawrence" title="Murder of Stephen Lawrence">murder of Stephen Lawrence</a>: in that article, the phrase "racially motivated attack" is piped to "<a href="/wiki/Hate_crime" title="Hate crime">Hate crime</a>". <a href="/wiki/User:Jean-de-Nivelle" title="User:Jean-de-Nivelle">Jean-de-Nivelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jean-de-Nivelle" title="User talk:Jean-de-Nivelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Jean-de-Nivelle-20241119114000-Boud-20241118030300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:40, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process">Relisted</a> to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:ThadeusOfNazereth" title="User:ThadeusOfNazereth">ThadeusOfNazereth</a>(he/him)<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ThadeusOfNazereth" title="User talk:ThadeusOfNazereth">Talk to Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-ThadeusOfNazereth-20241122235400-Jean-de-Nivelle-20241107155700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:54, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Retarget racially motivated violence as suggested, do not change Racial violence for reasons stated above. Kind of vibes based but I would be the least surprised this way. <a href="/wiki/User:PARAKANYAA" title="User:PARAKANYAA">PARAKANYAA</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PARAKANYAA" title="User talk:PARAKANYAA">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-PARAKANYAA-20241126084600-Jean-de-Nivelle-20241107155700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:46, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Retarget <a href="/wiki/Racially_motivated_violence" title="Racially motivated violence">Racially motivated violence</a> and no change to <a href="/wiki/Racial_violence" title="Racial violence">Racial violence</a> per <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jean-de-Nivelle">Jean-de-Nivelle</a>'s further comments. <a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask">Daask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daask" title="User talk:Daask">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Daask-20241127090700-Jean-de-Nivelle-20241107155700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:07, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Capitol_protest" data-mw-thread-id="h-Capitol_protest-November_22-20241115230300">Capitol protest</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Capitol protest">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Capitol_protest" title="Capitol protest">Capitol protest</a> → <a href="/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack" title="January 6 United States Capitol attack">January 6 United States Capitol attack</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Capitol_protest" title="Talk:Capitol protest">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Capitol_protest" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Capitol protest">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Capitol_protest" title="Special:PageHistory/Capitol protest">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-16%26end%3D2024-11-14%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DCapitol_protest" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-16&end=2024-11-14&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Capitol protest">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Capitol_protest&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Capitol+protest%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Capitol_protest&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Capitol+protest%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Capitol_protest&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Capitol+protest%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ]</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Capitol_protests" title="Capitol protests">Capitol protests</a> → <a href="/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack" title="January 6 United States Capitol attack">January 6 United States Capitol attack</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Capitol_protests" title="Talk:Capitol protests">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Capitol_protests" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Capitol protests">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Capitol_protests" title="Special:PageHistory/Capitol protests">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-16%26end%3D2024-11-14%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DCapitol_protests" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-16&end=2024-11-14&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Capitol protests">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Capitol_protests&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Capitol+protests%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Capitol_protests&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Capitol+protests%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Capitol_protests&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Capitol+protests%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ] </li></ul> Impossibly vague redirect. Could easily also refer to the <a href="/wiki/March_on_Washington_for_Jobs_and_Freedom" title="March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom">March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom</a>, or the hundreds of other protests that happen around the world at various capitols. Delete.<a href="/wiki/User:1ctinus" title="User:1ctinus">-1ctinus📝</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:1ctinus" title="User talk:1ctinus">🗨</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-1ctinus-20241115230300-Capitol_protest" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:03, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Delete RECENTISM at work here. There are many capitol protests at many capitols -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.92.246.77" title="Special:Contributions/65.92.246.77">65.92.246.77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.92.246.77" title="User talk:65.92.246.77">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-65.92.246.77-20241116042400-1ctinus-20241115230300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:24, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Could this be dabified? Do we have other articles on things called Capitol protests? <a href="/wiki/User:PARAKANYAA" title="User:PARAKANYAA">PARAKANYAA</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PARAKANYAA" title="User talk:PARAKANYAA">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-PARAKANYAA-20241116150300-1ctinus-20241115230300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:03, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>"capitol" is a generic word in this format, it is "capitol protest(s)" and not "protest(s) at the Capitol", so that would include such as the occupation of the building in Abkhazia right now; the <a href="/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot" title="Gunpowder Plot">Gunpowder Plot</a>; <a href="/wiki/Stop_Line_3_protests" title="Stop Line 3 protests">Stop Line 3 protests</a>; <a href="/wiki/April_30_storming_of_the_Michigan_State_Capitol" title="April 30 storming of the Michigan State Capitol">April 30 storming of the Michigan State Capitol</a>; <a href="/wiki/2021_United_States_capitol_protests" class="mw-disambig" title="2021 United States capitol protests">2021 United States capitol protests</a>; <a href="/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Utah" title="George Floyd protests in Utah">George Floyd protests in Utah</a>; <a href="/wiki/2024_storming_of_the_Kenyan_Parliament" title="2024 storming of the Kenyan Parliament">2024 storming of the Kenyan Parliament</a>; <a href="/wiki/2023%E2%80%932024_Georgian_protests" title="2023–2024 Georgian protests">2023–2024 Georgian protests</a>; etc, etc. I don't think it would make a good disambig page. You could make a list article instead. <a href="/w/index.php?title=List_of_protests_near,_at,_surrounding,_around,_and,_in,_capitol,_legislature,_and,_parliamentary,_buildings&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="List of protests near, at, surrounding, around, and, in, capitol, legislature, and, parliamentary, buildings (page does not exist)">List of protests near, at, surrounding, around, and, in, capitol, legislature, and, parliamentary, buildings</a> -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.92.246.77" title="Special:Contributions/65.92.246.77">65.92.246.77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.92.246.77" title="User talk:65.92.246.77">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-65.92.246.77-20241116222400-PARAKANYAA-20241116150300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:24, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I is a useful search term. Should be DAB or List target.<a href="/wiki/User:Blethering_Scot" title="User:Blethering Scot">Blethering</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Blethering_Scot" title="User talk:Blethering Scot">Scot</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Blethering_Scot-20241116232000-65.92.246.77-20241116222400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:20, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>I think I would prefer to dabify it. Seems a reasonable search term. Unsure if it passes NLIST but that could also be ok. <a href="/wiki/User:PARAKANYAA" title="User:PARAKANYAA">PARAKANYAA</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PARAKANYAA" title="User talk:PARAKANYAA">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-PARAKANYAA-20241116234100-65.92.246.77-20241116222400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:41, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>My problem is that there are wayyyy too many things that can be described as a "Capitol protest" that it becomes borderline <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:INDISCRIMINATE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:INDISCRIMINATE">WP:INDISCRIMINATE</a>. 190+ countries, 50+ US states plus Brazil, Canada, and Germany as federal governments, plus centuries of history including countries that no longer exist. It would be hard to maintain, and I doubt it would pass <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NLIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NLIST">WP:NLIST</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:1ctinus" title="User:1ctinus">-1ctinus📝</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:1ctinus" title="User talk:1ctinus">🗨</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-1ctinus-20241117021400-PARAKANYAA-20241116234100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:14, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process">Relisted</a> to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:ThadeusOfNazereth" title="User:ThadeusOfNazereth">ThadeusOfNazereth</a>(he/him)<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ThadeusOfNazereth" title="User talk:ThadeusOfNazereth">Talk to Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-ThadeusOfNazereth-20241122234500-1ctinus-20241115230300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:45, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Delete per <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:1ctinus">1ctinus</a>. As a dab, we would either be using a dab as a runaround for a list that would fail <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NLIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NLIST">WP:NLIST</a> and involve <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">WP:OR</a>, or we would be trying to determine which protests held at <a href="/wiki/Capitol_(disambiguation)" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="Capitol (disambiguation)">capitols</a> have been referred to as "Capitol protest", which would be painstakingly difficult and feel oddly like an incomplete version of the first option. <a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask">Daask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daask" title="User talk:Daask">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Daask-20241127090100-1ctinus-20241115230300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:01, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Rising_And_Setting_Of_The_Sun" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rising_And_Setting_Of_The_Sun-November_22-20241115230300">Rising And Setting Of The Sun</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Rising And Setting Of The Sun">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Rising_And_Setting_Of_The_Sun" title="Rising And Setting Of The Sun">Rising And Setting Of The Sun</a> → <a href="/wiki/Sunset" title="Sunset">Sunset</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rising_And_Setting_Of_The_Sun&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Rising And Setting Of The Sun (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Rising_And_Setting_Of_The_Sun" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Rising And Setting Of The Sun">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Rising_And_Setting_Of_The_Sun" title="Special:PageHistory/Rising And Setting Of The Sun">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-16%26end%3D2024-11-14%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DRising_And_Setting_Of_The_Sun" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-16&end=2024-11-14&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Rising And Setting Of The Sun">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rising_And_Setting_Of_The_Sun&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Rising+And+Setting+Of+The+Sun%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rising_And_Setting_Of_The_Sun&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Rising+And+Setting+Of+The+Sun%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rising_And_Setting_Of_The_Sun&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Rising+And+Setting+Of+The+Sun%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ] </li></ul> Could refer to a sunrise also. Classic <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:XY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:XY">WP:XY</a>. Delete. <a href="/wiki/User:1ctinus" title="User:1ctinus">-1ctinus📝</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:1ctinus" title="User talk:1ctinus">🗨</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-1ctinus-20241115230300-Rising_And_Setting_Of_The_Sun" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:03, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Comment - I think this might actually be a reference to <a href="/wiki/Psalm_113" title="Psalm 113">Psalm 113</a> (verse 3). Not sure if it's a close enough match to redirect, but this is definitely where my mind first went. <a href="/wiki/User:Fieari" title="User:Fieari">Fieari</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fieari" title="User talk:Fieari">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Fieari-20241119234700-1ctinus-20241115230300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>"Setting" in the context of a sunset is not mentioned on that article. <a href="/wiki/User:1ctinus" title="User:1ctinus">-1ctinus📝</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:1ctinus" title="User talk:1ctinus">🗨</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-1ctinus-20241120000300-Fieari-20241119234700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Retarget to <a href="/wiki/Sun_path" title="Sun path">Sun path</a>, where the rising and setting of the Sun is discussed -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.92.246.77" title="Special:Contributions/65.92.246.77">65.92.246.77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.92.246.77" title="User talk:65.92.246.77">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-65.92.246.77-20241120053400-1ctinus-20241115230300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process">Relisted</a> to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Is a retarget to <a href="/wiki/Sun_path" title="Sun path">sun path</a> acceptable? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:ThadeusOfNazereth" title="User:ThadeusOfNazereth">ThadeusOfNazereth</a>(he/him)<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ThadeusOfNazereth" title="User talk:ThadeusOfNazereth">Talk to Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-ThadeusOfNazereth-20241122234200-1ctinus-20241115230300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Retarget to <a href="/wiki/Sun_path" title="Sun path">Sun path</a>, the target of <a href="/wiki/Sunrise_and_Sunset" class="mw-redirect" title="Sunrise and Sunset">Sunrise and Sunset</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Shhhnotsoloud" title="User:Shhhnotsoloud">Shhhnotsoloud</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shhhnotsoloud" title="User talk:Shhhnotsoloud">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Shhhnotsoloud-20241124122300-1ctinus-20241115230300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:23, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete, and delete <a href="/wiki/Sunrise_and_Sunset" class="mw-redirect" title="Sunrise and Sunset">Sunrise and Sunset</a> while you're at it, per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:XY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:XY">WP:XY</a>. <a href="/wiki/Sun_path" title="Sun path">Sun path</a> is about the route the sun appears to take across the sky throughout the day, and how this changes during an annual cycle. Its discussion of <a href="/wiki/Sunrise" title="Sunrise">sunrise</a> and <a href="/wiki/Sunset" title="Sunset">sunset</a> are limited to <a href="/wiki/Azimuth#In_navigation" title="Azimuth">azimuth</a> orientation, whereas those articles offer a broader scope on those subjects, especially regarding appearance. In other words, although <a href="/wiki/Sun_path" title="Sun path">sun path</a> mentions both topics, it does not cover them adequately and is not a parent article in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Summary_style" title="Wikipedia:Summary style">summary style</a>. Search results are more useful than any target. <a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask">Daask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daask" title="User talk:Daask">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Daask-20241127095500-1ctinus-20241115230300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:55, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="4_(album)_by_matisse" data-mw-thread-id="h-4_(album)_by_matisse-November_22-20241122225600">4 (album) by matisse</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: 4 (album) by matisse">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/4_(album)_by_matisse" title="4 (album) by matisse">4 (album) by matisse</a> → <a href="/wiki/4_(Matisse_EP)" title="4 (Matisse EP)">4 (Matisse EP)</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:4_(album)_by_matisse&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:4 (album) by matisse (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/4_(album)_by_matisse" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/4 (album) by matisse">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/4_(album)_by_matisse" title="Special:PageHistory/4 (album) by matisse">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3D4_(album)_by_matisse" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=4 (album) by matisse">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=4_(album)_by_matisse&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%234+%28album%29+by+matisse%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=4_(album)_by_matisse&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%234+%28album%29+by+matisse%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=4_(album)_by_matisse&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%234+%28album%29+by+matisse%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ] </li></ul> Sock posted this for RFD but was speedily kept since well.. sockpuppets are not allowed. But the point still stands. This is an improper disambiguation. Delete. <a href="/wiki/User:1ctinus" title="User:1ctinus">-1ctinus📝</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:1ctinus" title="User talk:1ctinus">🗨</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-1ctinus-20241122225600-4_(album)_by_matisse" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Delete per nom. Incorrectly formatted, and inaccurate (the target is an EP, not an album). <a href="/wiki/User:Tevildo" title="User:Tevildo">Tevildo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tevildo" title="User talk:Tevildo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Tevildo-20241123105300-1ctinus-20241122225600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:53, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete per nom. <a href="/wiki/User:Sch%C3%BCtzenpanzer" title="User:Schützenpanzer">Schützenpanzer</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sch%C3%BCtzenpanzer" title="User talk:Schützenpanzer">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Schützenpanzer-20241124001400-1ctinus-20241122225600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:14, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete as inaccurate --<a href="/wiki/User:Lenticel" title="User:Lenticel">Lenticel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lenticel" title="User talk:Lenticel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Lenticel-20241124001700-1ctinus-20241122225600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:17, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Weak Keep. The article now at <a href="/wiki/4_(Matisse_EP)" title="4 (Matisse EP)">4 (Matisse EP)</a> existed at this title for a few hours before it was moved, so I don't see much risk of breaking incoming links or downsides to deletion. However, I don't see much benefit in deleting either, or good <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:R#DELETE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:R">reasons</a> to do it. Who cares if it's wrong? Other redirects include <a href="/wiki/4_(album_by_Matisse)" class="mw-redirect" title="4 (album by Matisse)">4 (album by Matisse)</a> and <a href="/wiki/4_(Matisse_album)" class="mw-redirect" title="4 (Matisse album)">4 (Matisse album)</a>, which share this inaccuracy, but should certainly be kept because they were titles of <a href="/wiki/4_(Matisse_EP)" title="4 (Matisse EP)">4 (Matisse EP)</a> for significant amounts of time. <a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask">Daask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daask" title="User talk:Daask">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Daask-20241127101600-1ctinus-20241122225600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:16, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="2026_Houston_Texans_season" data-mw-thread-id="h-2026_Houston_Texans_season-November_22-20241122222500">2026 Houston Texans season</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: 2026 Houston Texans season">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2026_Houston_Texans_season" title="2026 Houston Texans season">2026 Houston Texans season</a> → <a href="/wiki/Houston_Texans" title="Houston Texans">Houston Texans</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:2026_Houston_Texans_season&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:2026 Houston Texans season (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/2026_Houston_Texans_season" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/2026 Houston Texans season">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/2026_Houston_Texans_season" title="Special:PageHistory/2026 Houston Texans season">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3D2026_Houston_Texans_season" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=2026 Houston Texans season">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2026_Houston_Texans_season&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%232026+Houston+Texans+season%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2026_Houston_Texans_season&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%232026+Houston+Texans+season%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2026_Houston_Texans_season&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%232026+Houston+Texans+season%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ] </li></ul> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TOOSOON" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TOOSOON">WP:TOOSOON</a>, no relevant information at the target, making it a misleading redirect. <a href="/wiki/User:Hey_man_im_josh" title="User:Hey man im josh">Hey man im josh</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hey_man_im_josh" title="User talk:Hey man im josh">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241122222500-2026_Houston_Texans_season" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Strong delete per nom. <a href="/wiki/User:WikiOriginal-9" title="User:WikiOriginal-9">~WikiOriginal-9~</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WikiOriginal-9" title="User talk:WikiOriginal-9">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-WikiOriginal-9-20241122225400-Hey_man_im_josh-20241122222500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:54, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Noting that similar nominations, for other team seasons of the same year, were made at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_24#2026_Buffalo_Bills_season" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 November 24">Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_24#2026_Buffalo_Bills_season</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Hey_man_im_josh" title="User:Hey man im josh">Hey man im josh</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hey_man_im_josh" title="User talk:Hey man im josh">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241125202500-Hey_man_im_josh-20241122222500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:25, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Macchar" data-mw-thread-id="h-Macchar-November_22-20241122205300">Macchar</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Macchar">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Macchar" title="Macchar">Macchar</a> → <a href="/wiki/Mosquito" title="Mosquito">Mosquito</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macchar&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Macchar (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Macchar" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Macchar">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Macchar" title="Special:PageHistory/Macchar">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DMacchar" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Macchar">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Macchar&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Macchar%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Macchar&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Macchar%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Macchar&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Macchar%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ] </li></ul> no particular affinity for urdu <a href="/wiki/User:Cogsan" title="User:Cogsan">cogsan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cogsan" title="User talk:Cogsan">(nag me)</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/cogsan" title="Special:Contributions/cogsan">(stalk me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Cogsan-20241122205300-Macchar" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:53, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>This one matches a lot of pretty legitimate uses in Indian websites for mosquito control, as does the spelling variant "machhar". Hard to tell which is the preferred spelling. <a href="/wiki/User:Dyanega" title="User:Dyanega">Dyanega</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dyanega" title="User talk:Dyanega">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Dyanega-20241122220400-Cogsan-20241122205300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>if wiktionary is to be trusted here, it'd be "macchar". then again, it's tucked away in the <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mosquito/translations" class="extiw" title="wikt:mosquito/translations">translations</a>, so... <a href="/wiki/User:Cogsan" title="User:Cogsan">cogsan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cogsan" title="User talk:Cogsan">(nag me)</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/cogsan" title="Special:Contributions/cogsan">(stalk me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Cogsan-20241126124800-Dyanega-20241122220400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:48, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Keep. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFOREIGN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFOREIGN">WP:RFOREIGN</a> is the relevant essay. A casual search revealed the use of this term (or its spelling variant "machhar") for mosquito in English-language content.<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/jugglebandhi/mosquito-menaced-weve-devised-a-new-form-of-insecticide-to-eradicate-machhars-f0-9f-98-9c/">[1]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.ndtv.com/offbeat/macchar-song-yashraj-mukhates-new-rap-inspired-by-mosquito-menace-is-too-relatable-3490635">[2]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcerYBIDizI">[3]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.reddit.com/r/karachi/comments/1glnzwq/help_me_identify_this_machhar/">[4]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.reddit.com/r/MEDICOreTARDS/comments/1fkfvje/comment/lnvg8z0/">[5]</a> Thus I think this is an example of "Apparently foreign words which are used as the English variant word in some forms of English". <a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask">Daask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daask" title="User talk:Daask">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Daask-20241127093700-Cogsan-20241122205300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:37, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Mozze" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mozze-November_22-20241122205000">Mozze</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Mozze">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Mozze" title="Mozze">Mozze</a> → <a href="/wiki/Mosquito" title="Mosquito">Mosquito</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mozze&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Mozze (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Mozze" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Mozze">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Mozze" title="Special:PageHistory/Mozze">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DMozze" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Mozze">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mozze&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Mozze%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mozze&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Mozze%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mozze&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Mozze%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ] </li></ul> no particular affinity with this language... whatever language it actually is. google gave me nothing, wiktionary gave me nothing related to mosquitos <a href="/wiki/User:Cogsan" title="User:Cogsan">cogsan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cogsan" title="User talk:Cogsan">(nag me)</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/cogsan" title="Special:Contributions/cogsan">(stalk me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Cogsan-20241122205000-Mozze" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:50, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>It's got no usage, and appears to be a misspelling of the nickname "mozzie". I'd support a speedy delete. <a href="/wiki/User:Dyanega" title="User:Dyanega">Dyanega</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dyanega" title="User talk:Dyanega">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Dyanega-20241122205600-Cogsan-20241122205000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Agree, mozzie is the Aussie word. <a href="/wiki/User:Chiswick_Chap" title="User:Chiswick Chap">Chiswick Chap</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chiswick_Chap" title="User talk:Chiswick Chap">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Chiswick_Chap-20241122205700-Dyanega-20241122205600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:57, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd>Delete. While this is possibly a plausible phonetic misspelling of "mozzie", which is Australian slang for mosquito, this seems ambiguous with <a href="/wiki/Canne_mozze" title="Canne mozze">Canne mozze</a> and even <a href="/wiki/Mezzo" class="mw-disambig" title="Mezzo">Mezzo</a>. – <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Aurel" title="User:Michael Aurel">Michael Aurel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Aurel" title="User talk:Michael Aurel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Michael_Aurel-20241122230800-Cogsan-20241122205000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:08, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Delete per <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Michael_Aurel">Michael Aurel</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask">Daask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daask" title="User talk:Daask">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Daask-20241127101900-Cogsan-20241122205000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:19, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Brandblusser" data-mw-thread-id="h-Brandblusser-November_22-20241122204500">Brandblusser</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Brandblusser">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Brandblusser" title="Brandblusser">Brandblusser</a> → <a href="/wiki/Fire_extinguisher" title="Fire extinguisher">Fire extinguisher</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Brandblusser" title="Talk:Brandblusser">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Brandblusser" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Brandblusser">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Brandblusser" title="Special:PageHistory/Brandblusser">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DBrandblusser" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Brandblusser">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brandblusser&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Brandblusser%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brandblusser&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Brandblusser%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brandblusser&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Brandblusser%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ] </li></ul> no particular affinity for dutch <a href="/wiki/User:Cogsan" title="User:Cogsan">cogsan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cogsan" title="User talk:Cogsan">(nag me)</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/cogsan" title="Special:Contributions/cogsan">(stalk me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Cogsan-20241122204500-Brandblusser" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:45, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Delete per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFOREIGN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFOREIGN">WP:RFOREIGN</a>. Search revealed no use in English texts. <a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask">Daask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daask" title="User talk:Daask">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Daask-20241127102100-Cogsan-20241122204500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:21, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Extuingisher" data-mw-thread-id="h-Extuingisher-November_22-20241122204200">Extuingisher</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Extuingisher">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Extuingisher" title="Extuingisher">Extuingisher</a> → <a href="/wiki/Fire_extinguisher" title="Fire extinguisher">Fire extinguisher</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Extuingisher&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Extuingisher (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Extuingisher" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Extuingisher">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Extuingisher" title="Special:PageHistory/Extuingisher">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DExtuingisher" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Extuingisher">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Extuingisher&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Extuingisher%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Extuingisher&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Extuingisher%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Extuingisher&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Extuingisher%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ] </li></ul> not on the plausible side of misspellings. it's 6 letters effectively scrambled <a href="/wiki/User:Cogsan" title="User:Cogsan">cogsan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cogsan" title="User talk:Cogsan">(nag me)</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/cogsan" title="Special:Contributions/cogsan">(stalk me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Cogsan-20241122204200-Extuingisher" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Delete as being an implausible misspelling, and per the pretty much non-existent pageviews. – <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Aurel" title="User:Michael Aurel">Michael Aurel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Aurel" title="User talk:Michael Aurel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Michael_Aurel-20241122231000-Cogsan-20241122204200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:10, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete per above --<a href="/wiki/User:Lenticel" title="User:Lenticel">Lenticel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lenticel" title="User talk:Lenticel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Lenticel-20241124002000-Cogsan-20241122204200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:20, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete per <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Michael_Aurel">Michael Aurel</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask">Daask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daask" title="User talk:Daask">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Daask-20241127160700-Cogsan-20241122204200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:07, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Agent_Galahad" data-mw-thread-id="h-Agent_Galahad-November_22-20241122194200">Agent Galahad</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Agent Galahad">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Agent_Galahad" title="Agent Galahad">Agent Galahad</a> → <a href="/wiki/Kingsman_(comic_series)" title="Kingsman (comic series)">Kingsman (comic series)</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Agent_Galahad&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Agent Galahad (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Agent_Galahad" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Agent Galahad">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Agent_Galahad" title="Special:PageHistory/Agent Galahad">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DAgent_Galahad" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Agent Galahad">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Agent_Galahad&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Agent+Galahad%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Agent_Galahad&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Agent+Galahad%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Agent_Galahad&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Agent+Galahad%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ] </li></ul> Not mentioned in the redirect target. It used to have an article, but it was deleted, then redirected, then deleted again, then redirected again, then deleted again, then redirected to another article. Either it stays deleted or redirected, or have to recreate the article. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Toby2023&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Toby2023 (page does not exist)">Toby2023</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Toby2023" title="User talk:Toby2023">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Toby2023-20241122194200-Agent_Galahad" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Redirect to <a href="/wiki/Kingsman_(franchise)" title="Kingsman (franchise)">Kingsman (franchise)</a>, where there's a mention. <a href="/wiki/User:Hey_man_im_josh" title="User:Hey man im josh">Hey man im josh</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hey_man_im_josh" title="User talk:Hey man im josh">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241122200700-Toby2023-20241122194200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:07, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Done I've changed the redirect to the franchise article. <a href="/wiki/User:Nightscream" title="User:Nightscream">Nightscream</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nightscream" title="User talk:Nightscream">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Nightscream-20241123064100-Toby2023-20241122194200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:41, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Redirect to <a href="/wiki/Kingsman_(franchise)" title="Kingsman (franchise)">Kingsman (franchise)</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask">Daask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daask" title="User talk:Daask">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Daask-20241127102400-Toby2023-20241122194200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:24, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="University_of_Michigan_School_Of_Law" data-mw-thread-id="h-University_of_Michigan_School_Of_Law-November_22-20241122182300">University of Michigan School Of Law</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: University of Michigan School Of Law">edit</a>]</div> <div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed mw-archivedtalk" style="background: var(--background-color-warning-subtle, #FFEEDD); color: var(--color-base, inherit); margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> <dl><dd>The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>). No further edits should be made to this section.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>The result of the discussion was keep. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NACD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NACD">(non-admin closure)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask">Daask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daask" title="User talk:Daask">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Daask-20241127102500-University_of_Michigan_School_Of_Law" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:25, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Michigan_School_Of_Law&redirect=no">University of Michigan School Of Law</a> → <a href="/wiki/University_of_Michigan_Law_School" title="University of Michigan Law School">University of Michigan Law School</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:University_of_Michigan_School_Of_Law" title="Talk:University of Michigan School Of Law">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/University_of_Michigan_School_Of_Law" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/University of Michigan School Of Law">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/University_of_Michigan_School_Of_Law" title="Special:PageHistory/University of Michigan School Of Law">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DUniversity_of_Michigan_School_Of_Law" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=University of Michigan School Of Law">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Michigan_School_Of_Law&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23University+of+Michigan+School+Of+Law%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Michigan_School_Of_Law&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23University+of+Michigan+School+Of+Law%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Michigan_School_Of_Law&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23University+of+Michigan+School+Of+Law%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ] </li></ul> Delete. Currently unused, and redundant with the similarly spelled <a href="/wiki/University_of_Michigan_School_of_Law" class="mw-redirect" title="University of Michigan School of Law">University of Michigan School of Law</a> redirect. The "Of" spelling is only used for this redirect of the many "University of Michigan School of" redirects, which causes more clutter when a user searches for 'University of Michigan School' with no additional value-add. <a href="/wiki/User:Engineerchange" title="User:Engineerchange">Engineerchange</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Engineerchange" title="User talk:Engineerchange">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Engineerchange-20241122182300-University_of_Michigan_School_Of_Law" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:23, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Keep, very <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CHEAP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CHEAP">cheap</a> for what it is. It's incorrect capitalization, yes, but so is a lot of stuff in <a href="/wiki/Category:Redirects_from_other_capitalisations" title="Category:Redirects from other capitalisations">Category:Redirects from other capitalisations</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Mwwv" title="User:Mwwv">mwwv</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mwwv" title="User talk:Mwwv">converse</a>∫<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mwwv" title="Special:Contributions/Mwwv">edits</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Mwwv-20241122183900-Engineerchange-20241122182300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Keep: Nothing problematic about this redirect and it could possibly be useful. Redirects are cheap, and it's not misleading in any way. <a href="/wiki/User:Hey_man_im_josh" title="User:Hey man im josh">Hey man im josh</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hey_man_im_josh" title="User talk:Hey man im josh">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241122200800-Engineerchange-20241122182300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:08, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Keep per those above. <a href="/wiki/User:BD2412" title="User:BD2412">BD2412</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:BD2412" title="User talk:BD2412">T</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-BD2412-20241122210200-Engineerchange-20241122182300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:02, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Keep. Unambiguous, non-problematic. – <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Aurel" title="User:Michael Aurel">Michael Aurel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Aurel" title="User talk:Michael Aurel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Michael_Aurel-20241122225700-Engineerchange-20241122182300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:57, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Keep per everyone above and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CHEAP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CHEAP">WP:CHEAP</a>. This redirect is unambiguous, not harming anything, and will take readers exactly where it promises whenever they're searching this term. No need to delete it. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Sonic678" title="User:Sonic678">SONIC</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sonic678" title="User talk:Sonic678">678</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Sonic678-20241123014200-Engineerchange-20241122182300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:42, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Keep per above --<a href="/wiki/User:Lenticel" title="User:Lenticel">Lenticel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lenticel" title="User talk:Lenticel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Lenticel-20241125005300-Engineerchange-20241122182300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:53, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's <a href="/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Using talk pages">talk page</a> or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a>).</dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Headwaters_Country_Jam" data-mw-thread-id="h-Headwaters_Country_Jam-November_22-20241115230300">Headwaters Country Jam</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Headwaters Country Jam">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Headwaters_Country_Jam" title="Headwaters Country Jam">Headwaters Country Jam</a> → <a href="/wiki/Montana" title="Montana">Montana</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Headwaters_Country_Jam&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Headwaters Country Jam (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Headwaters_Country_Jam" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Headwaters Country Jam">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Headwaters_Country_Jam" title="Special:PageHistory/Headwaters Country Jam">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-16%26end%3D2024-11-14%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DHeadwaters_Country_Jam" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-16&end=2024-11-14&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Headwaters Country Jam">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Headwaters_Country_Jam&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Headwaters+Country+Jam%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Headwaters_Country_Jam&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Headwaters+Country+Jam%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Headwaters_Country_Jam&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Headwaters+Country+Jam%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ] </li></ul> Not mentioned in target article <s>or rest of Wikipedia.</s> <s>Delete.</s> Retarget per below <a href="/wiki/User:1ctinus" title="User:1ctinus">-1ctinus📝</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:1ctinus" title="User talk:1ctinus">🗨</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-1ctinus-20241115230300-Headwaters_Country_Jam" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:03, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process">Relisted</a> to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Needs more consensus Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Bunnypranav" title="User:Bunnypranav">~/Bunnypranav</a>:<<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bunnypranav" title="User talk:Bunnypranav">ping</a>> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Bunnypranav-20241122161100-1ctinus-20241115230300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Retarget to <a href="/wiki/Cardwell,_Montana" title="Cardwell, Montana">Cardwell, Montana</a>, where I've added a mention. - <a href="/wiki/User:Presidentman" title="User:Presidentman">Presidentman</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Presidentman" title="User talk:Presidentman">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Presidentman" title="Special:Contributions/Presidentman">contribs</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TBACK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TBACK">Talkback</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Presidentman-20241122162500-1ctinus-20241115230300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete: Looks like it's a music festival held in <a href="/wiki/Three_Forks,_Montana" title="Three Forks, Montana">Three Forks, Montana</a>, so a mention there could be added. However, there is some sourcing on the festival, so <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REDYES" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REDYES">WP:REDYES</a> could apply. <a href="/wiki/User:%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B2" title="User:मल्ल">मल्ल</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B2" title="User talk:मल्ल">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-मल्ल-20241122162900-1ctinus-20241115230300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Presidentman">Presidentman</a>'s addition seems like a trivial passing mention to me. If someone asks: "Does Wikipedia have relevant content related to Headwaters Country Jam?" I think the answer is "no". I don't think the <a href="/wiki/Cardwell,_Montana" title="Cardwell, Montana">Cardwell, Montana</a> would be improved by further additions related to this subject. <a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask">Daask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daask" title="User talk:Daask">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Daask-20241127104300-1ctinus-20241115230300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:43, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="WP:NOTWIKIA_and_WP:NOTFANDOM" data-mw-thread-id="h-WP:NOTWIKIA_and_WP:NOTFANDOM-November_22-20241122155300">WP:NOTWIKIA and WP:NOTFANDOM</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: WP:NOTWIKIA and WP:NOTFANDOM">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTWIKIA" title="Wikipedia:NOTWIKIA">Wikipedia:NOTWIKIA</a> → <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_blog,_web_hosting_service,_social_networking_service,_or_memorial_site" title="Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not">Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a blog, web hosting service, social networking service, or memorial site</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:NOTWIKIA" title="Wikipedia talk:NOTWIKIA">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia:NOTWIKIA" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia:NOTWIKIA">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Wikipedia:NOTWIKIA" title="Special:PageHistory/Wikipedia:NOTWIKIA">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DWikipedia:NOTWIKIA" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Wikipedia:NOTWIKIA">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:NOTWIKIA&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Wikipedia%3ANOTWIKIA%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:NOTWIKIA&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Wikipedia%3ANOTWIKIA%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:NOTWIKIA&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Wikipedia%3ANOTWIKIA%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ]</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTFANDOM" title="Wikipedia:NOTFANDOM">Wikipedia:NOTFANDOM</a> → <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_blog,_web_hosting_service,_social_networking_service,_or_memorial_site" title="Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not">Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a blog, web hosting service, social networking service, or memorial site</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:NOTFANDOM" title="Wikipedia talk:NOTFANDOM">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia:NOTFANDOM" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia:NOTFANDOM">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Wikipedia:NOTFANDOM" title="Special:PageHistory/Wikipedia:NOTFANDOM">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DWikipedia:NOTFANDOM" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Wikipedia:NOTFANDOM">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:NOTFANDOM&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Wikipedia%3ANOTFANDOM%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:NOTFANDOM&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Wikipedia%3ANOTFANDOM%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:NOTFANDOM&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Wikipedia%3ANOTFANDOM%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ]</li></ul> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1247711204">.mw-parser-output .old-rfd-list{border:1px solid #a2a9b1;background-color:var(--background-color-neutral-subtle,#f8f9fa);color:var(--color-base,#202122);padding:0.2em;font-size:88%;line-height:1.5em}@media(min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .old-rfd-list{margin:0.5em 0 0.5em 1em;float:right;clear:right;width:50%}}</style><div class="old-rfd-list">Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects: <div><ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2021_May_31#Wikipedia:NOTFANDOM" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 31">Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 31 § Wikipedia:NOTFANDOM</a> – keep</li></ul></div></div> Suggested decision: Retarget to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_Fandom" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not Fandom">Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not Fandom</a>. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WPINFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WPINFD">WP:WPINFD</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WPINWA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WPINWA">WP:WPINWA</a> already target that page, which explains the differences between Wikipedia and Fandom, but this redirect is still targeting the policy on that Wikipedia is not a social network, just like treating anyone who <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BFDI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BFDI">slaps unnotable fancruft with indiscriminate collections of information just like on Fandom</a><a href="/wiki/Hyperbole" title="Hyperbole"><abbr title="This statement is intentionally exaggerated.">[hyperbole]</abbr></a> as someone who is using Wikipedia as a social network. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/67.209.128.85" title="Special:Contributions/67.209.128.85">67.209.128.85</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:67.209.128.85&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:67.209.128.85 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-67.209.128.85-20241122155300-WP:NOTWIKIA_and_WP:NOTFANDOM" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:53, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_voting_comment.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a> Comment: Unfortunately, I cannot notify the ones who created such redirects because both of them are either retired and/or inactive. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/67.209.128.85" title="Special:Contributions/67.209.128.85">67.209.128.85</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:67.209.128.85&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:67.209.128.85 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-67.209.128.85-20241122160800-67.209.128.85-20241122155300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:08, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Why would you retarget it to an essay instead of a policy? <a href="/wiki/User:The_Banner" title="User:The Banner">The Banner</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Banner" title="User talk:The Banner">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-The_Banner-20241122170100-67.209.128.85-20241122155300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Wikipedia now has an essay explaining that it is not Fandom. The current target of these redirects is outdated, so i was obligated to ask for consensus before doing any deliberate redirect target changes. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/67.209.128.85" title="Special:Contributions/67.209.128.85">67.209.128.85</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:67.209.128.85&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:67.209.128.85 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-67.209.128.85-20241122173500-The_Banner-20241122170100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:35, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Keep You are proposing to downgrade the level of importance as an essay is just a long comment while a policy can be enforced. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Banner" title="User:The Banner">The Banner</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Banner" title="User talk:The Banner">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-The_Banner-20241123125600-67.209.128.85-20241122173500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:56, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Keep both. Both have incoming links, and have existed for years. Also, "policy" > "essay" any day of the week. Hatnote the current target if necessary. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Steel1943&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Steel1943 (page does not exist)">Steel1943</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steel1943" title="User talk:Steel1943">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Steel1943-20241123034000-67.209.128.85-20241122155300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:40, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I agree that the current target should have a hatnote if we were to keep this redirect.</dd> <dd>I propose it should look something like this:</dd> <dd><code>{{Redirect2|WP:NOTFANDOM|WP:NOTWIKIA|the essay explaining that Wikipedia is not Fandom|Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not Fandom}}</code></dd> <dd>Which would appear as:</dd> <dd><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1236090951">.mw-parser-output .hatnote{font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output div.hatnote{padding-left:1.6em;margin-bottom:0.5em}.mw-parser-output .hatnote i{font-style:normal}.mw-parser-output .hatnote+link+.hatnote{margin-top:-0.5em}@media print{body.ns-0 .mw-parser-output .hatnote{display:none!important}}</style><div role="note" class="hatnote navigation-not-searchable">"WP:NOTFANDOM" and "WP:NOTWIKIA" redirect here. For the essay explaining that Wikipedia is not Fandom, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_Fandom" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not Fandom">Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not Fandom</a>.</div></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/67.209.128.85" title="Special:Contributions/67.209.128.85">67.209.128.85</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:67.209.128.85&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:67.209.128.85 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-67.209.128.85-20241123124100-Steel1943-20241123034000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:41, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Keep widely used already, and this concerns POLICY, which is of much higher import than any other rules. An ESSAY is not even a rule, and thus will be widely misleading as it makes any arguments using the shortcut expecting policy result in an argument that means nothing, as essays are ultimately not WIDE CONSENSUS created polices. -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.92.246.77" title="Special:Contributions/65.92.246.77">65.92.246.77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.92.246.77" title="User talk:65.92.246.77">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-65.92.246.77-20241123051200-67.209.128.85-20241122155300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:12, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Keep Policy should be a higher priority than essays --<a href="/wiki/User:Lenticel" title="User:Lenticel">Lenticel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lenticel" title="User talk:Lenticel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Lenticel-20241124003600-67.209.128.85-20241122155300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:36, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Retarget. When Wikipedia users appeal to an argument by linking to it, it's crucial that the link to that argument be preserved, even if it is later rejected by consensus, because that link is part of the user's statement and is essential for understanding what they are saying. Unfortunately, it's not clear to me that saying <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTWIKIA" title="Wikipedia:NOTWIKIA">WP:NOTWIKIA</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTFANDOM" title="Wikipedia:NOTFANDOM">WP:NOTFANDOM</a> is saying anything in particular, other than the implicit "That content would be acceptable on Fandom, but is not acceptable on Wikipedia." I say this based on review of both the target and a sample of inbound links. There is no relevant content at the target, except for "<style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk inline-quote-talk-italic">If you are interested in using the wiki technology for a collaborative effort on something else, ... many free and commercial sites provide wiki/web hosting</q>". Most editors here seems concerned about downgrading from a policy page to an essay, but this statement doesn't make any authoritative pronouncement about what is or isn't allowed or should or shouldn't be done. I think we should target the best expression of the referenced argument. I'm not overly impressed by <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_Fandom" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not Fandom">Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not Fandom</a>. It's a simple comparison page, and doesn't make a specific argument, but I think if we are to try to understand the views of those who link to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FANDOM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FANDOM">WP:FANDOM</a>, it's better than <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOT">WP:NOT</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask">Daask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daask" title="User talk:Daask">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Daask-20241127121900-67.209.128.85-20241122155300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:19, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Jim_Baker_(lobbyist)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Jim_Baker_(lobbyist)-November_22-20241122144200">Jim Baker (lobbyist)</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Jim Baker (lobbyist)">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Jim_Baker_(lobbyist)" title="Jim Baker (lobbyist)">Jim Baker (lobbyist)</a> → <a href="/wiki/National_Rifle_Association#Lobbying_and_political_activity" title="National Rifle Association">National Rifle Association#Lobbying and political activity</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Jim_Baker_(lobbyist)" title="Talk:Jim Baker (lobbyist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Jim_Baker_(lobbyist)" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Jim Baker (lobbyist)">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Jim_Baker_(lobbyist)" title="Special:PageHistory/Jim Baker (lobbyist)">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DJim_Baker_(lobbyist)" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Jim Baker (lobbyist)">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jim_Baker_(lobbyist)&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Jim+Baker+%28lobbyist%29%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jim_Baker_(lobbyist)&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Jim+Baker+%28lobbyist%29%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jim_Baker_(lobbyist)&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Jim+Baker+%28lobbyist%29%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ] </li></ul> This redirect was created in 2013 as a "placeholder" (<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jim_Baker_(lobbyist)&oldid=536419941">[6]</a>), but the creator never actually built out an article and a web search indicates it is dubious that the subject meets WP:GNG. The redirect target article does not mention Jim Baker anywhere in the article text. Anyone searching for the subject will be redirected to "National Rifle Association" which will provide them with... no information whatsoever. Whilst dangling redirects rarely do any harm, the target article should generally mention the subject of the redirect in some way. <a href="/wiki/User:Hemmers" title="User:Hemmers">Hemmers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hemmers" title="User talk:Hemmers">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Hemmers-20241122144200-Jim_Baker_(lobbyist)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Delete per nom; doesn't seem to match anyone else at <a href="/wiki/James_Baker_(disambiguation)" class="mw-disambig" title="James Baker (disambiguation)">James Baker (disambiguation)</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Shhhnotsoloud" title="User:Shhhnotsoloud">Shhhnotsoloud</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shhhnotsoloud" title="User talk:Shhhnotsoloud">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Shhhnotsoloud-20241124125500-Hemmers-20241122144200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:55, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="myelate" data-mw-thread-id="h-myelate-November_22-20241122142300">myelate</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: myelate">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Myelate" title="Myelate">Myelate</a> → <a href="/wiki/Honey" title="Honey">Honey</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Myelate&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Myelate (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Myelate" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Myelate">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Myelate" title="Special:PageHistory/Myelate">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DMyelate" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Myelate">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Myelate&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Myelate%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Myelate&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Myelate%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Myelate&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Myelate%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ]</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Myelates" title="Myelates">Myelates</a> → <a href="/wiki/Honey" title="Honey">Honey</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Myelates&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Myelates (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Myelates" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Myelates">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Myelates" title="Special:PageHistory/Myelates">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DMyelates" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Myelates">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Myelates&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Myelates%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Myelates&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Myelates%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Myelates&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Myelates%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ]</li></ul> results lightly imply that this is an obscure synonym for honeydew honey, a verb probably related to honey, or some guy on deviantart. not present in the target or wiktionary <a href="/wiki/User:Cogsan" title="User:Cogsan">cogsan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cogsan" title="User talk:Cogsan">(nag me)</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/cogsan" title="Special:Contributions/cogsan">(stalk me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Cogsan-20241122142300-myelate" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:23, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li><s>retarget to <a href="/w/index.php?title=Some_guy_on_deviantart&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Some guy on deviantart (page does not exist)">some guy on deviantart</a></s>. Delete, I've also found this as a typo for "myelinate", and maybe something to do with oak trees, but it's spotty and extremely obscure, and even the venerable OED says nothing about it. And we have no mention of this anyway, sourcing for which doesn't seem to be reliable. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/35.139.154.158" title="Special:Contributions/35.139.154.158">35.139.154.158</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:35.139.154.158" title="User talk:35.139.154.158">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-35.139.154.158-20241122170800-Cogsan-20241122142300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:08, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete per nom --<a href="/wiki/User:Lenticel" title="User:Lenticel">Lenticel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lenticel" title="User talk:Lenticel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Lenticel-20241124003900-Cogsan-20241122142300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:39, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="some_regional_honeys" data-mw-thread-id="h-some_regional_honeys-November_22-20241122141800">some regional honeys</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: some regional honeys">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Philippines_Honey" title="Philippines Honey">Philippines Honey</a> → <a href="/wiki/Honey" title="Honey">Honey</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Philippines_Honey&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Philippines Honey (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Philippines_Honey" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Philippines Honey">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Philippines_Honey" title="Special:PageHistory/Philippines Honey">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DPhilippines_Honey" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Philippines Honey">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Philippines_Honey&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Philippines+Honey%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Philippines_Honey&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Philippines+Honey%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Philippines_Honey&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Philippines+Honey%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ]</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Philippines_honey" title="Philippines honey">Philippines honey</a> → <a href="/wiki/Honey" title="Honey">Honey</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Philippines_honey" title="Talk:Philippines honey">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Philippines_honey" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Philippines honey">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Philippines_honey" title="Special:PageHistory/Philippines honey">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DPhilippines_honey" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Philippines honey">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Philippines_honey&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Philippines+honey%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Philippines_honey&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Philippines+honey%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Philippines_honey&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Philippines+honey%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ]</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Finland_Honey" title="Finland Honey">Finland Honey</a> → <a href="/wiki/Honey" title="Honey">Honey</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Finland_Honey&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Finland Honey (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Finland_Honey" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Finland Honey">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Finland_Honey" title="Special:PageHistory/Finland Honey">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DFinland_Honey" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Finland Honey">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Finland_Honey&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Finland+Honey%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Finland_Honey&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Finland+Honey%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Finland_Honey&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Finland+Honey%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ]</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Finland_honey" title="Finland honey">Finland honey</a> → <a href="/wiki/Honey" title="Honey">Honey</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Finland_honey" title="Talk:Finland honey">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Finland_honey" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Finland honey">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Finland_honey" title="Special:PageHistory/Finland honey">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DFinland_honey" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Finland honey">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Finland_honey&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Finland+honey%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Finland_honey&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Finland+honey%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Finland_honey&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Finland+honey%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ]</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Himalayan_honey" title="Himalayan honey">Himalayan honey</a> → <a href="/wiki/Honey" title="Honey">Honey</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Himalayan_honey" title="Talk:Himalayan honey">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Himalayan_honey" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Himalayan honey">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Himalayan_honey" title="Special:PageHistory/Himalayan honey">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DHimalayan_honey" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Himalayan honey">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Himalayan_honey&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Himalayan+honey%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Himalayan_honey&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Himalayan+honey%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Himalayan_honey&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Himalayan+honey%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ]</li></ul> locations and their relations with unmentioned in the target. note that the sentence case redirects were all unsourced stubs, with two of them having been created by the same (now blocked) user <a href="/wiki/User:Cogsan" title="User:Cogsan">cogsan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cogsan" title="User talk:Cogsan">(nag me)</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/cogsan" title="Special:Contributions/cogsan">(stalk me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Cogsan-20241122141800-some_regional_honeys" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:18, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Benzema_15" data-mw-thread-id="h-Benzema_15-November_22-20241122124000">Benzema 15</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Benzema 15">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Benzema_15&redirect=no">Benzema 15</a> → <a href="/wiki/Zahia_Dehar" title="Zahia Dehar">Zahia Dehar</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Benzema_15&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Benzema 15 (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Benzema_15" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Benzema 15">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Benzema_15" title="Special:PageHistory/Benzema 15">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DBenzema_15" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Benzema 15">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Benzema_15&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Benzema+15%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Benzema_15&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Benzema+15%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Benzema_15&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Benzema+15%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ] </li></ul> Surely <a href="/wiki/Benzema_15" class="mw-redirect" title="Benzema 15">Benzema 15</a> is an intrusive and obscure name for an article relating to the football/soccer player <a href="/wiki/Karim_Benzema" title="Karim Benzema">Karim Benzema</a>, which relates to sensitive content which shouldn't be openly glorified with the naming of this redirect, as it cannot be compared to other redirects such as CR7 for <a href="/wiki/Cristiano_Ronaldo" title="Cristiano Ronaldo">Cristiano Ronaldo</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Cltjames&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Cltjames (page does not exist)">Cltjames</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cltjames#top" title="User talk:Cltjames">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Cltjames-20241122124000-Benzema_15" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Barotrauma_and_Wind_turbines" data-mw-thread-id="h-Barotrauma_and_Wind_turbines-November_22-20241122123100">Barotrauma and Wind turbines</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Barotrauma and Wind turbines">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Barotrauma_and_Wind_turbines" title="Barotrauma and Wind turbines">Barotrauma and Wind turbines</a> → <a href="/wiki/Bat#Conservation" title="Bat">Bat#Conservation</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Barotrauma_and_Wind_turbines&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Barotrauma and Wind turbines (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Barotrauma_and_Wind_turbines" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Barotrauma and Wind turbines">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Barotrauma_and_Wind_turbines" title="Special:PageHistory/Barotrauma and Wind turbines">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DBarotrauma_and_Wind_turbines" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Barotrauma and Wind turbines">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Barotrauma_and_Wind_turbines&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Barotrauma+and+Wind+turbines%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Barotrauma_and_Wind_turbines&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Barotrauma+and+Wind+turbines%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Barotrauma_and_Wind_turbines&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Barotrauma+and+Wind+turbines%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ] </li></ul> "barotrauma" refers to damage caused by air pressure differences. while pretty unique to bats since their lungs are held together with thoughts and prayers, it's not exclusive to them. granted, getting sent to the shadow realm due to barotrauma from the low-pressure areas just behind the blades of wind turbines is a little more closely associated with bats, but it's not what the redirect's wording necessarily implies <a href="/wiki/User:Cogsan" title="User:Cogsan">cogsan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cogsan" title="User talk:Cogsan">(nag me)</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/cogsan" title="Special:Contributions/cogsan">(stalk me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Cogsan-20241122123100-Barotrauma_and_Wind_turbines" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:31, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Keep - the intersection of the two topics is unique to bats - other animals that it's thought are impacted by wind farms are harmed by impact damage flying into them, not pressure damage from being near them. This is covered in detail at the target. <a href="/wiki/User:Ivanvector" title="User:Ivanvector">Ivanvector</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ivanvector" title="User talk:Ivanvector">Talk</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ivanvector" title="Special:Contributions/Ivanvector">Edits</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Ivanvector-20241122174200-Cogsan-20241122123100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Nustrale" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nustrale-November_22-20241122121900">Nustrale</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Nustrale">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Nustrale" title="Nustrale">Nustrale</a> → <a href="/wiki/Bat" title="Bat">Bat</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nustrale&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Nustrale (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Nustrale" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Nustrale">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Nustrale" title="Special:PageHistory/Nustrale">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DNustrale" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Nustrale">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nustrale&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Nustrale%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nustrale&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Nustrale%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nustrale&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Nustrale%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ] </li></ul> results gave me seemingly assorted pig species. the creation, by a user blocked for constant low-quality additions, refers to a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://news.yahoo.com/very-rare-creature-wings-hairy-185013348.html%7C">yahoo article</a>, referring to a species of bat known as "myptis nustrale", but you wouldn't find that out from the redirect. hell, as that article states, "nustrale" apparently means "ours" in an obscure french dialect, so in theory, it has nothing to do with bats. the bat shown there is cute though <a href="/wiki/User:Cogsan" title="User:Cogsan">cogsan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cogsan" title="User talk:Cogsan">(nag me)</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/cogsan" title="Special:Contributions/cogsan">(stalk me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Cogsan-20241122121900-Nustrale" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Delete. This redirect inhibits Search which reveals several mention (mostly pig/pork related). <a href="/wiki/User:Shhhnotsoloud" title="User:Shhhnotsoloud">Shhhnotsoloud</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shhhnotsoloud" title="User talk:Shhhnotsoloud">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Shhhnotsoloud-20241124125900-Cogsan-20241122121900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:59, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Final_kefka" data-mw-thread-id="h-Final_kefka-November_22-20241122114200">Final kefka</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Final kefka">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Final_kefka" title="Final kefka">Final kefka</a> → <a href="/wiki/Kefka_Palazzo" title="Kefka Palazzo">Kefka Palazzo</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Final_kefka&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Final kefka (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Final_kefka" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Final kefka">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Final_kefka" title="Special:PageHistory/Final kefka">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DFinal_kefka" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Final kefka">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Final_kefka&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Final+kefka%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Final_kefka&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Final+kefka%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Final_kefka&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Final+kefka%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ] </li></ul> unused fan name. people just call him kefka. or cefca if they're based <a href="/wiki/User:Cogsan" title="User:Cogsan">cogsan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cogsan" title="User talk:Cogsan">(nag me)</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/cogsan" title="Special:Contributions/cogsan">(stalk me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Cogsan-20241122114200-Final_kefka" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Delete per nom. If it was Final Fantasy Kefka then I might have reconsidered. --<a href="/wiki/User:Lenticel" title="User:Lenticel">Lenticel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lenticel" title="User talk:Lenticel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Lenticel-20241124005100-Cogsan-20241122114200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:51, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Wikipedia:Redirect_assimilation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:Redirect_assimilation-November_22-20241122031500">Wikipedia:Redirect assimilation</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Wikipedia:Redirect assimilation">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirect_assimilation" title="Wikipedia:Redirect assimilation">Wikipedia:Redirect assimilation</a> → <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirect#Do_not_"fix"_links_to_redirects_that_are_not_broken" title="Wikipedia:Redirect">Wikipedia:Redirect#Do_not_"fix"_links_to_redirects_that_are_not_broken</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Redirect_assimilation" title="Wikipedia talk:Redirect assimilation">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia:Redirect_assimilation" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia:Redirect assimilation">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Wikipedia:Redirect_assimilation" title="Special:PageHistory/Wikipedia:Redirect assimilation">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DWikipedia:Redirect_assimilation" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Wikipedia:Redirect assimilation">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirect_assimilation&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Wikipedia%3ARedirect+assimilation%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirect_assimilation&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Wikipedia%3ARedirect+assimilation%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirect_assimilation&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Wikipedia%3ARedirect+assimilation%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ]</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ASSIMILATION" title="Wikipedia:ASSIMILATION">Wikipedia:ASSIMILATION</a> → <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirect#Do_not_"fix"_links_to_redirects_that_are_not_broken" title="Wikipedia:Redirect">Wikipedia:Redirect#Do_not_"fix"_links_to_redirects_that_are_not_broken</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:ASSIMILATION" title="Wikipedia talk:ASSIMILATION">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia:ASSIMILATION" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia:ASSIMILATION">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Wikipedia:ASSIMILATION" title="Special:PageHistory/Wikipedia:ASSIMILATION">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DWikipedia:ASSIMILATION" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Wikipedia:ASSIMILATION">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:ASSIMILATION&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23WP%3AASSIMILATION%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:ASSIMILATION&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23WP%3AASSIMILATION%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:ASSIMILATION&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23WP%3AASSIMILATION%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ] </li></ul> Delete No obvious connection with "assimilation"; no nontrivial incoming links. --<a href="/wiki/User:Trovatore" title="User:Trovatore">Trovatore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trovatore" title="User talk:Trovatore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Trovatore-20241122031500-Wikipedia:Redirect_assimilation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:15, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Delete I actually saw this request at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AfC/R" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AfC/R">WP:AfC/R</a> and saw that it was either pointless or the requester was confused. Oh well, it was accepted already. <a href="/wiki/User:Vanderwaalforces" title="User:Vanderwaalforces">Vanderwaalforces</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vanderwaalforces" title="User talk:Vanderwaalforces">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Vanderwaalforces-20241122060500-Trovatore-20241122031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:05, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Delete per nom --<a href="/wiki/User:Lenticel" title="User:Lenticel">Lenticel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lenticel" title="User talk:Lenticel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Lenticel-20241122071100-Trovatore-20241122031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete how is "ASSIMILATION" in any way related to this at all? Highly misleading <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ASTONISH" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ASTONISH">WP:ASTONISHing</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PANDORA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PANDORA">WP:PANDORA</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:89.33.113.249&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:89.33.113.249 (page does not exist)">89.33.113.249</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:89.33.113.249" title="User talk:89.33.113.249">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/89.33.113.249" title="Special:Contributions/89.33.113.249">contribs</a>) never showed <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/Redirects&diff=prev&oldid=1258539421">[7]</a> where this terminology came from -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.92.246.77" title="Special:Contributions/65.92.246.77">65.92.246.77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.92.246.77" title="User talk:65.92.246.77">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-65.92.246.77-20241123052000-Trovatore-20241122031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:20, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete per <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.92.246.77" title="Special:Contributions/65.92.246.77">65.92.246.77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:65.92.246.77" title="User talk:65.92.246.77">talk</a>). Search didn't reveal this term having been used on Wikipedia discussion pages. <a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask">Daask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daask" title="User talk:Daask">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Daask-20241127084800-Trovatore-20241122031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:48, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Confusing_Pokémon_Redirects" data-mw-thread-id="h-Confusing_Pokémon_Redirects-November_22-20241114234600">Confusing Pokémon Redirects</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Confusing Pokémon Redirects">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_attack" title="Pokémon attack">Pokémon attack</a> → <a href="/wiki/Gameplay_of_Pok%C3%A9mon" title="Gameplay of Pokémon">Gameplay of Pokémon</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pok%C3%A9mon_attack&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Pokémon attack (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Pok%C3%A9mon_attack" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Pokémon attack">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Pok%C3%A9mon_attack" title="Special:PageHistory/Pokémon attack">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-15%26end%3D2024-11-13%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DPok%C3%A9mon_attack" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-15&end=2024-11-13&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Pokémon attack">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_attack&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Pok%C3%A9mon+attack%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_attack&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Pok%C3%A9mon+attack%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_attack&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Pok%C3%A9mon+attack%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ]</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Pokemon_attack" title="Pokemon attack">Pokemon attack</a> → <a href="/wiki/Gameplay_of_Pok%C3%A9mon" title="Gameplay of Pokémon">Gameplay of Pokémon</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pokemon_attack&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Pokemon attack (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Pokemon_attack" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Pokemon attack">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Pokemon_attack" title="Special:PageHistory/Pokemon attack">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-15%26end%3D2024-11-13%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DPokemon_attack" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-15&end=2024-11-13&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Pokemon attack">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pokemon_attack&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Pokemon+attack%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pokemon_attack&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Pokemon+attack%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pokemon_attack&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Pokemon+attack%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ]</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Evolution_Of_Pokemon" title="Evolution Of Pokemon">Evolution Of Pokemon</a> → <a href="/wiki/Gameplay_of_Pok%C3%A9mon" title="Gameplay of Pokémon">Gameplay of Pokémon</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Evolution_Of_Pokemon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Evolution Of Pokemon (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Evolution_Of_Pokemon" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Evolution Of Pokemon">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Evolution_Of_Pokemon" title="Special:PageHistory/Evolution Of Pokemon">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-15%26end%3D2024-11-13%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DEvolution_Of_Pokemon" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-15&end=2024-11-13&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Evolution Of Pokemon">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Evolution_Of_Pokemon&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Evolution+Of+Pokemon%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Evolution_Of_Pokemon&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Evolution+Of+Pokemon%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Evolution_Of_Pokemon&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23Evolution+Of+Pokemon%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ]</li></ul> All three redirects can potentially be confused, and thus serve as unhelpful search terms. "Pokémon attack" can refer to both the attacking moves of the Pokémon and the in-game stat (While both are covered at the same article, a redirect this broad does not help with finding one or the other), while "Evolution of Pokémon" could be misinterpreted as being the real-world evolution of the franchise when it is instead covering the in-game terminology. <a href="/wiki/User:Pokelego999" title="User:Pokelego999">Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pokelego999" title="User talk:Pokelego999">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Pokelego999-20241114234600-Confusing_Pokémon_Redirects" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:46, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><s>Couldn't pokemon attack also refer to getting attacked by a pokemon in-universe. Anyways, delete all per nom. <a href="/wiki/User:TeapotsOfDoom" title="User:TeapotsOfDoom">TeapotsOfDoom</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TeapotsOfDoom" title="User talk:TeapotsOfDoom">talk</a>) 07:45, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</s> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:STRIKESOCK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:STRIKESOCK">WP:STRIKESOCK</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tavix" title="User:Tavix"> Tavix</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tavix" title="User talk:Tavix">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-TeapotsOfDoom-20241115074500-Pokelego999-20241114234600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:08, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Keep the 'attack' redirects. Both things it refers to would have the same target. I'm neutral on the 'evolution' redirect, as you'd only think about the "real-world" evolution if you (over)think about it too much. <a href="/wiki/User:Web-julio" title="User:Web-julio">Web-julio</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Web-julio" title="User talk:Web-julio">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Web-julio-20241116013700-Pokelego999-20241114234600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:37, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Delete. "attack" could refer to moves, stat, or any other form of attack related to the franchise or the species. evolution could refer to the franchise or the species. so on and so forth. was admittedly a little iffy on nominating those before, but they're here now, so... <a href="/wiki/User:Cogsan" title="User:Cogsan">cogsan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cogsan" title="User talk:Cogsan">(nag me)</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/cogsan" title="Special:Contributions/cogsan">(stalk me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Cogsan-20241118125200-Pokelego999-20241114234600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:52, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process">Relisted</a> to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:CycloneYoris" title="User:CycloneYoris">CycloneYoris</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:CycloneYoris" title="User talk:CycloneYoris">talk!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-CycloneYoris-20241122024600-Pokelego999-20241114234600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Delete Contrary to nom, "Pokémon attack" could plausibly refer to other aspects of the franchise besides the game, eg. the activities of characters on <a href="/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_(TV_series)" title="Pokémon (TV series)">Pokémon (TV series)</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask">Daask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daask" title="User talk:Daask">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Daask-20241127085300-Pokelego999-20241114234600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:53, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="National_Italian_American_Foundation" data-mw-thread-id="h-National_Italian_American_Foundation-November_22-20241122011700">National Italian American Foundation</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: National Italian American Foundation">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/National_Italian_American_Foundation" title="National Italian American Foundation">National Italian American Foundation</a> → <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Italian_American_Foundation" class="extiw" title="it:National Italian American Foundation">it:National Italian American Foundation</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:National_Italian_American_Foundation" title="Talk:National Italian American Foundation">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/National_Italian_American_Foundation" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/National Italian American Foundation">links</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/National_Italian_American_Foundation" title="Special:PageHistory/National Italian American Foundation">history</a> · <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews/%3Fstart%3D2024-10-23%26end%3D2024-11-21%26project%3Den.wikipedia.org%26pages%3DNational_Italian_American_Foundation" class="extiw" title="toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-10-23&end=2024-11-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=National Italian American Foundation">stats</a>) [ Closure: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Italian_American_Foundation&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23National+Italian+American+Foundation%5D%5D+closed+as+keep">keep</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Italian_American_Foundation&action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23National+Italian+American+Foundation%5D%5D+closed+as+retarget">retarget</a>/<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Italian_American_Foundation&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2024+November+22%23National+Italian+American+Foundation%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1">delete</a> ] </li></ul> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPP">NPP action</a>) An article at this title was deleted <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/National_Italian_American_Foundation" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/National Italian American Foundation">at AfD in 2020</a>. Per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SOFTSP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SOFTSP">WP:SOFTSP</a>, interwiki redirects should not be made to other-language Wikipedias. <a href="/wiki/User:Jlwoodwa" title="User:Jlwoodwa">jlwoodwa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jlwoodwa" title="User talk:Jlwoodwa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Jlwoodwa-20241122011700-National_Italian_American_Foundation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:17, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>delete per nom <a href="/wiki/User:Cogsan" title="User:Cogsan">cogsan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cogsan" title="User talk:Cogsan">(nag me)</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/cogsan" title="Special:Contributions/cogsan">(stalk me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Cogsan-20241122112800-Jlwoodwa-20241122011700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:28, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Delete per nom. This is the English language wikipedia, not the Italian. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Banner" title="User:The Banner">The Banner</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Banner" title="User talk:The Banner">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-The_Banner-20241122170500-Jlwoodwa-20241122011700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:05, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Comment. I can't actually find the claim that interwiki redirects should not be made to other-language Wikipedias at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SOFTSP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SOFTSP">WP:SOFTSP</a>. Why shouldn't they? Wouldn't a soft redirect be a good solution here? --<a href="/wiki/User:Trovatore" title="User:Trovatore">Trovatore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trovatore" title="User talk:Trovatore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Trovatore-20241123021300-Jlwoodwa-20241122011700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:13, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Trovatore" title="User:Trovatore">Trovatore</a>: I think it's implied by <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">The plain {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Soft_redirect" title="Template:Soft redirect">soft redirect</a>}} template should not be used in the mainspace. Instead, use one of the specialized templates (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikimedia_sister_projects#Specialized_soft_redirect_templates" title="Wikipedia:Wikimedia sister projects">below</a>)</q>, and the fact that there is no {{<a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Wikipedia_redirect&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Wikipedia redirect (page does not exist)">Wikipedia redirect</a>}} template. As for "why not": readers of the English Wikipedia are looking for English-language content. <a href="/wiki/User:Jlwoodwa" title="User:Jlwoodwa">jlwoodwa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jlwoodwa" title="User talk:Jlwoodwa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Jlwoodwa-20241124042500-Trovatore-20241123021300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:25, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The first is a little speculative — maybe the specialization is listed somewhere else, or maybe just no one's made it yet. That doesn't necessarily imply an active opposition to interlang redirects.</dd> <dd>As to the second, probably you didn't mean it this way, but that can be taken as almost insulting, the stereotype of the monolingual American/Brit/Aussie. The purpose of soft redirects is to help users find relevant content in sister projects, and I don't see why we wouldn't want to help them find it in other languages (whether those are technically "sister projects" is beside the point). --<a href="/wiki/User:Trovatore" title="User:Trovatore">Trovatore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trovatore" title="User talk:Trovatore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Trovatore-20241124062600-Jlwoodwa-20241124042500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:26, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>yeah, but said relevant content is locked behind a different wiki with (possibly) different quality standards and a different language. it's statistically not very likely that everyone who looks for something like this would coincidentally know english and italian. contrast to soft redirects to wiktionary as an example, which lead to the english wiktionary</dd> <dd>also, that second point didn't really make much sense. what's so insulting or stereotypical about wp-en readers wanting content in english? isn't that the entire reason they're not on wp-it? <a href="/wiki/User:Cogsan" title="User:Cogsan">cogsan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cogsan" title="User talk:Cogsan">(nag me)</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/cogsan" title="Special:Contributions/cogsan">(stalk me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Cogsan-20241125112600-Trovatore-20241124062600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:26, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Wiktionary also has different inclusions standards from English Wikipedia — very different, seeing that it has a different purpose. Italian Wikipedia is at least closer than that. They're entitled to their own standards, but they're in the same general milieu; it's not like a random web link.</dd> <dd>Of course not everyone who looks this up is likely to know Italian, but given the topic, it seems likely that a fair number will, or will at least be able to puzzle it out.</dd> <dd>What's insulting is not assuming that they're looking for content in English, but that they're looking for content only in English. The fact that someone is looking in English Wikipedia provides no warrant to assume they're not interested in content in other languages as well. --<a href="/wiki/User:Trovatore" title="User:Trovatore">Trovatore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trovatore" title="User talk:Trovatore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Trovatore-20241125194600-Cogsan-20241125112600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:46, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>unfortunately, betting on the chance of someone knowing that other language in the first place is, in the nicest way i can put it, lazy. for cases like this, there are some solutions i've seen <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RETURNTORED" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RETURNTORED">returning to red</a></li> <li>including a red link, but also a link to an article in an appropriate language (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Mineirinho_Ultra_Adventures&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Mineirinho Ultra Adventures (page does not exist)">mineirinho ultra adventures</a> [<a href="https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineirinho_Ultra_Adventures" class="extiw" title="pt:Mineirinho Ultra Adventures">pt</a>]). haven't seen this outside of the <a href="/wiki/Touhou_Project" title="Touhou Project">touhou project</a> infobox though, which means i haven't seen it in mainspace, so i'm not sure this would be a good idea</li> <li>creating an article lmao</li></ul></dd> <dd>i am still inclined towards the first, since someone could create an article later on <a href="/wiki/User:Cogsan" title="User:Cogsan">cogsan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cogsan" title="User talk:Cogsan">(nag me)</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/cogsan" title="Special:Contributions/cogsan">(stalk me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Cogsan-20241126121000-Trovatore-20241125194600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:10, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>It isn't "betting" on the user knowing Italian. Look, not everything in Wikipedia has to be useful to every user. For example, many technical articles are entirely useless to any reader who doesn't have a very strong technical background, and that's just fine, because Wikipedia is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MANYTHINGS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MANYTHINGS">WP:MANYTHINGS</a>. The fact that there's a well-written (though admittedly poorly sourced) Italian article on this topic should not be ignored; we should find some way to surface that to the reader who searches for this term. --<a href="/wiki/User:Trovatore" title="User:Trovatore">Trovatore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trovatore" title="User talk:Trovatore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Trovatore-20241126175400-Cogsan-20241126121000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:54, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>method 2 is sounding really good right about now... <a href="/wiki/User:Cogsan" title="User:Cogsan">cogsan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cogsan" title="User talk:Cogsan">(nag me)</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/cogsan" title="Special:Contributions/cogsan">(stalk me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Cogsan-20241126200400-Trovatore-20241126175400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:04, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Retarget to <a href="/wiki/Italian_Americans" title="Italian Americans">Italian Americans</a> which has information about the organisation. Do not delete. <a href="/wiki/User:Shhhnotsoloud" title="User:Shhhnotsoloud">Shhhnotsoloud</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shhhnotsoloud" title="User talk:Shhhnotsoloud">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Shhhnotsoloud-20241124130600-Jlwoodwa-20241122011700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:06, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Keep or modify somehow, not sure how, but the user searching this term should get some sort of indication that there is an it.wiki article. --<a href="/wiki/User:Trovatore" title="User:Trovatore">Trovatore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trovatore" title="User talk:Trovatore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22#c-Trovatore-20241124214200-Jlwoodwa-20241122011700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:42, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&oldid=1259881269">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_November_22&oldid=1259881269</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 27 November 2024, at 16:07 (UTC).</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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