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Wikipedia Is Keeping a List"</a>. <a href="/wiki/Slate_(magazine)" title="Slate (magazine)">Slate (magazine)</a>. <q>English-language Wikipedia is documenting the crisis, too: Fifty-eight editors have joined the English-language WikiProject Ukraine group, and thousands of others are contributing to their projects. They've tallied the journalists killed in Russia, built a thorough daily timeline, and debated whether the mass graves in the Ukrainian city of Izium should be called a "massacre." 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Sections older than <b>30 days</b> may be automatically archived by <span class="nowraplinks"><a href="/wiki/User:Lowercase_sigmabot_III" title="User:Lowercase sigmabot III">Lowercase sigmabot III</a></span> when more than 5 sections are present.</td></tr> </tbody></table> <p class="mw-empty-elt"> </p> <dl><dt>Help requests</dt></dl> <p>You can leave your requests here. Please add <b>new</b> sections at the bottom with your signature so that the request will have the date included. </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="China_and_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" data-mw-thread-id="h-China_and_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine-20241011011200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-China_and_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine-20241011011200"></span>China and the Russian invasion of Ukraine<span data-mw-comment-end="h-China_and_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine-20241011011200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ukraine&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: China and the Russian invasion of Ukraine"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amigao-20241011011200-China_and_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine"></span>It would be helpful to get some additional eyes on the lede of <a href="/wiki/China_and_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="China and the Russian invasion of Ukraine">China and the Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> as there may be some <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FALSEBALANCE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FALSEBALANCE">WP:FALSEBALANCE</a> there that needs work. - <a href="/wiki/User:Amigao" title="User:Amigao">Amigao</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amigao" title="User talk:Amigao">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ukraine#c-Amigao-20241011011200-China_and_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:12, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amigao-20241011011200-China_and_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amigao-20241011011200-China_and_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Need_someone_to_check_my_edit" data-mw-thread-id="h-Need_someone_to_check_my_edit-20241022082600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Need_someone_to_check_my_edit-20241022082600"></span>Need someone to check my edit<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Need_someone_to_check_my_edit-20241022082600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ukraine&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Need someone to check my edit"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sirocco745-20241022082600-Need_someone_to_check_my_edit"></span>I recently reverted an IP user on the <a href="/wiki/All-Ukrainian_National_Congress" title="All-Ukrainian National Congress">All-Ukrainian National Congress</a> article a few times before they explained themselves, but it got me curious. First, were they correct in their statement that the names they changed were "romanized falsely"? And second, I decided to fix up the references cited. Before, they only showed the title and author in Ukrainian Cyrillic, but I used Google and Google Translate to find links to the books and to translate the names of the books and their authors. Could someone double check my work and tell me how good/bad of a job I did at that? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated, this is my first time retrieving foreign language sources. <a href="/wiki/User:Sirocco745" title="User:Sirocco745">Sirocco745</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sirocco745" title="User talk:Sirocco745">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ukraine#c-Sirocco745-20241022082600-Need_someone_to_check_my_edit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:26, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sirocco745-20241022082600-Need_someone_to_check_my_edit"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sirocco745-20241022082600-Need_someone_to_check_my_edit"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ymblanter-20241022103200-Sirocco745-20241022082600"></span>What I am really worried about is that the text (which is currently in the article) contains references in the format [1]. It most certainly means it was copypasted from an external source and likely is copyrighted (in which case it must be removed and possibly revision deleted) but unfortunately I do not have time to investigate right now. <a href="/wiki/User:Ymblanter" title="User:Ymblanter">Ymblanter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ymblanter" title="User talk:Ymblanter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ukraine#c-Ymblanter-20241022103200-Sirocco745-20241022082600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:32, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ymblanter-20241022103200-Sirocco745-20241022082600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ymblanter-20241022103200-Sirocco745-20241022082600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sirocco745-20241024002200-Ymblanter-20241022103200"></span>Ohh, that's a good point. I'll double check the copyright on the text real quick and I'll get back to you on that. <a href="/wiki/User:Sirocco745" title="User:Sirocco745">Sirocco745</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sirocco745" title="User talk:Sirocco745">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ukraine#c-Sirocco745-20241024002200-Ymblanter-20241022103200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:22, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sirocco745-20241024002200-Ymblanter-20241022103200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sirocco745-20241024002200-Ymblanter-20241022103200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Discrepancy_in_constitution_versions_from_different_sources?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discrepancy_in_constitution_versions_from_different_sources?-20241030190200"><span id="Discrepancy_in_constitution_versions_from_different_sources.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discrepancy_in_constitution_versions_from_different_sources?-20241030190200"></span>Discrepancy in constitution versions from different sources?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discrepancy_in_constitution_versions_from_different_sources?-20241030190200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ukraine&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Discrepancy in constitution versions from different sources?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Helpful_Cat-20241030190200-Discrepancy_in_constitution_versions_from_different_sources?"></span>Hello, I came from the <a href="/wiki/Next_Ukrainian_parliamentary_election" title="Next Ukrainian parliamentary election">Next Ukrainian parliamentary election</a> article, where I saw this text: "According to Article 77 of the Constitution, regular elections to the Verkhovna Rada (the parliament of Ukraine) take place on the last Sunday of October of the fifth year of parliamentary powers. Thus, if not for the war, the regular parliamentary elections would have taken place on 29 October 2023." </p><p>However, I noticed that <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://rm.coe.int/constitution-of-ukraine/168071f58b">the Council of Europe text</a> as well as <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Ukraine,_2010">Wikisource</a> quote Article 77 of the Constitution as below: </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1244412712">.mw-parser-output .templatequote{overflow:hidden;margin:1em 0;padding:0 32px}.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{line-height:1.5em;text-align:left;margin-top:0}@media(min-width:500px){.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{padding-left:1.6em}}</style><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>Regular elections to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine take place on the <b>last Sunday of March of the fourth year</b> of the term of authority of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.</p></blockquote> <p>The only reference to October I can find is in Article 103, which is about <i>presidential</i> elections: </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1244412712"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>Regular elections of the President of Ukraine are held on the <b>last Sunday of October of the fifth year</b> of the term of authority of the President of Ukraine.</p></blockquote> <p>(all emphasis mine) </p><p><i>However</i>, I can't believe the above are correct because all sources seem to take for granted that if not for martial law, parliamentary elections would have been scheduled for October 2023 and presidential elections for March 2024, not the other way around. The <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/en/254%D0%BA/96-%D0%B2%D1%80#Text">translation provided by the Verkhovna Rada website</a> supports the idea that the COE text and Wikisource are wrong: </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1244412712"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>Article 77. Regular elections to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine shall be held on the last Sunday of October of the fifth year of the term of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.<br/> Article 103. ... Regular elections of the President of Ukraine shall be held on the last Sunday of March of the fifth year of authority of the President of Ukraine.</p></blockquote> <p>I don't know if there have been constitutional amendments that explain this discrepancy, or if the COE text and Wikisource page (which might be derived from the COE text?) are just wrong. If there are incorrect versions of the Constitution floating around, I think we would want to note that and be careful to only use the official Rada version, as I've seen many links to the COE and Wikisource versions. </p><p>I'd be grateful for any insight. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Helpful_Cat" title="User:Helpful Cat">Helpful Cat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Helpful_Cat" title="User talk:Helpful Cat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ukraine#c-Helpful_Cat-20241030190200-Discrepancy_in_constitution_versions_from_different_sources?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:02, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Helpful_Cat-20241030190200-Discrepancy_in_constitution_versions_from_different_sources?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Helpful_Cat-20241030190200-Discrepancy_in_constitution_versions_from_different_sources?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alaexis-20241030230100-Helpful_Cat-20241030190200"></span>You're absolutely right about the correct version, the only insight I can give is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FIXIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FIXIT">WP:FIXIT</a> :) <a href="/wiki/User:Alaexis" title="User:Alaexis">Alaexis</a><sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alaexis" title="User talk:Alaexis">¿question?</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ukraine#c-Alaexis-20241030230100-Helpful_Cat-20241030190200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:01, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alaexis-20241030230100-Helpful_Cat-20241030190200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alaexis-20241030230100-Helpful_Cat-20241030190200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ivan_Ivanovich_Mavrov" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ivan_Ivanovich_Mavrov-20241108195700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ivan_Ivanovich_Mavrov-20241108195700"></span>Ivan Ivanovich Mavrov<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ivan_Ivanovich_Mavrov-20241108195700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ukraine&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Ivan Ivanovich Mavrov"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Ivan_Ivanovich_Mavrov" title="Ivan Ivanovich Mavrov"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-20241108195700-Ivan_Ivanovich_Mavrov"></span>Ivan Ivanovich Mavrov</a> is unsourced. Can anyone oblige, please? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ukraine#c-Pigsonthewing-20241108195700-Ivan_Ivanovich_Mavrov" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:57, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-20241108195700-Ivan_Ivanovich_Mavrov"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-20241108195700-Ivan_Ivanovich_Mavrov"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Draft:Yury_Yuriyovich_Shikula" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:Yury_Yuriyovich_Shikula-20241126144400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft:Yury_Yuriyovich_Shikula-20241126144400"></span>Draft:Yury Yuriyovich Shikula<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft:Yury_Yuriyovich_Shikula-20241126144400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ukraine&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Draft:Yury Yuriyovich Shikula"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Ymblanter" title="User:Ymblanter"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheBirdsShedTears-20241126144400-Draft:Yury_Yuriyovich_Shikula"></span>Ymblanter</a>, I came across this draft a few days ago in a rather incomplete state and have made some edits. However, as a non-Ukrainian speaker, it is challenging for me to fully assess the accuracy, especially regarding the title: is it Yury Yuriyovich Shikula or Yuriy Yuriyovych Shykula. Also, I removed some content<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Yury_Yuriyovich_Shikula&diff=prev&oldid=1259669795">[1]</a> from the awards section, as it appeared to pertain to a different individual with the same name. Could someone please review this draft for accuracy? I am particularly curious about this draft as it seems potentially notable. <a href="/wiki/User:TheBirdsShedTears" title="User:TheBirdsShedTears">TheBirdsShedTears</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheBirdsShedTears" title="User talk:TheBirdsShedTears">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ukraine#c-TheBirdsShedTears-20241126144400-Draft:Yury_Yuriyovich_Shikula" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:44, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheBirdsShedTears-20241126144400-Draft:Yury_Yuriyovich_Shikula"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheBirdsShedTears-20241126144400-Draft:Yury_Yuriyovich_Shikula"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ymblanter-20241126170000-TheBirdsShedTears-20241126144400"></span>I am not an Ukrainian speaker, but I think he is Yuriy Yuriovych Shykula. We just use <a href="/wiki/MOS:UKR" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:UKR">MOS:UKR</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Ymblanter" title="User:Ymblanter">Ymblanter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ymblanter" title="User talk:Ymblanter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ukraine#c-Ymblanter-20241126170000-TheBirdsShedTears-20241126144400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:00, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ymblanter-20241126170000-TheBirdsShedTears-20241126144400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ymblanter-20241126170000-TheBirdsShedTears-20241126144400"></span></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1&useformat=desktop" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ukraine&oldid=1259709871">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ukraine&oldid=1259709871</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Project-Class_Ukraine_articles" title="Category:Project-Class Ukraine articles">Project-Class Ukraine articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:NA-importance_Ukraine_articles" title="Category:NA-importance Ukraine articles">NA-importance Ukraine articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Ukraine_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Ukraine articles">WikiProject Ukraine articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_pages_referenced_by_the_press" title="Category:Wikipedia pages referenced by the press">Wikipedia pages referenced by the press</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 26 November 2024, at 17:12<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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