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#aae1ff;padding:5px;text-align:left;background-color:#f3f3f3;margin-top:5px;">Hello Gleeanon409. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Welcoming_committee/Welcome_to_Wikipedia" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome to Wikipedia">Welcome</a> to Wikipedia and thank you for <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Gleeanon409" title="Special:Contributions/Gleeanon409">your contributions</a>!<br/> <p>I'm <a href="/wiki/User:Scope_creep" title="User:Scope creep">Scope creep</a>, one of the other editors here, and I hope you decide to stay and help contribute to this amazing repository of knowledge. </p> <table width="100%" style="background-color:#fff;border:1px solid #aae1ff;"> <tbody><tr> <td width="50%">Some pages of helpful information to get you started: <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Introduction" title="Wikipedia:Introduction"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/20px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" 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title="Wikipedia:Five pillars">The five pillars of Wikipedia</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Tutorial" title="Wikipedia:Tutorial"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Crystal_Clear_app_ktip.svg/20px-Crystal_Clear_app_ktip.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Crystal_Clear_app_ktip.svg/30px-Crystal_Clear_app_ktip.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Crystal_Clear_app_ktip.svg/40px-Crystal_Clear_app_ktip.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Tutorial" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Tutorial">Editing tutorial</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Help:Editing" title="Help:Editing"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Crystal_package_utilities.png/20px-Crystal_package_utilities.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Crystal_package_utilities.png/30px-Crystal_package_utilities.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Crystal_package_utilities.png/40px-Crystal_package_utilities.png 2x" data-file-width="64" data-file-height="64"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Help:Editing" title="Help:Editing">How to edit a page</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Simplified_Manual_of_Style" title="Wikipedia:Simplified Manual of Style"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Crystal_Clear_app_kedit.png/20px-Crystal_Clear_app_kedit.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Crystal_Clear_app_kedit.png/30px-Crystal_Clear_app_kedit.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Crystal_Clear_app_kedit.png/40px-Crystal_Clear_app_kedit.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Simplified_Manual_of_Style" title="Wikipedia:Simplified Manual of Style">Simplified Manual of Style</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Cheatsheet" title="Wikipedia:Cheatsheet"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/LetterW.svg/20px-LetterW.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/LetterW.svg/30px-LetterW.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/LetterW.svg/40px-LetterW.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="112" data-file-height="117"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Help:Cheatsheet" title="Help:Cheatsheet">The basics of Wikicode</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_development" title="Wikipedia:Article development"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_development" title="Wikipedia:Article development">How to develop an article</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Your_first_article" title="Wikipedia:Your first article"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e7/Cscr-featured.svg/20px-Cscr-featured.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="19" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e7/Cscr-featured.svg/30px-Cscr-featured.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e7/Cscr-featured.svg/40px-Cscr-featured.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="466" data-file-height="443"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Your_first_article" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Your first article">How to create an article</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Help:Contents" title="Help:Contents"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Crystal_khelpcenter.png/20px-Crystal_khelpcenter.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Crystal_khelpcenter.png/30px-Crystal_khelpcenter.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Crystal_khelpcenter.png/40px-Crystal_khelpcenter.png 2x" data-file-width="64" data-file-height="64"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Help:Contents" title="Help:Contents">Help pages</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not" title="Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c9/Octagon-warning.svg/20px-Octagon-warning.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c9/Octagon-warning.svg/30px-Octagon-warning.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c9/Octagon-warning.svg/40px-Octagon-warning.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="64" data-file-height="64"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not" title="Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not">What Wikipedia is not</a></dd></dl> </td> <td width="50%">Some <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:What_%22Ignore_all_rules%22_means#Use_common_sense" title="Wikipedia:What "Ignore all rules" means">common sense</a> Dos and Don'ts: <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Be_bold" title="Wikipedia:Be bold"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/UncialB-01.png/20px-UncialB-01.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/UncialB-01.png/30px-UncialB-01.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/UncialB-01.png/40px-UncialB-01.png 2x" data-file-width="64" data-file-height="64"/></a></span> Do <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Be_bold" title="Wikipedia:Be bold">be bold</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith" title="Wikipedia:Assume good faith"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Face-angel.svg/20px-Face-angel.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Face-angel.svg/30px-Face-angel.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Face-angel.svg/40px-Face-angel.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> Do <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith" title="Wikipedia:Assume good faith">assume good faith</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/Face-tongue.svg/20px-Face-tongue.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/Face-tongue.svg/30px-Face-tongue.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/Face-tongue.svg/40px-Face-tongue.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> Do <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility">be civil</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Staying_cool_when_the_editing_gets_hot" title="Wikipedia:Staying cool when the editing gets hot"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Face-wink.svg/20px-Face-wink.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Face-wink.svg/30px-Face-wink.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Face-wink.svg/40px-Face-wink.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> Do <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Staying_cool_when_the_editing_gets_hot" title="Wikipedia:Staying cool when the editing gets hot">keep cool!</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view" title="Wikipedia:Neutral point of view"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/89/Symbol_neutral_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_neutral_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/89/Symbol_neutral_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_neutral_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/89/Symbol_neutral_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_neutral_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> Do <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view" title="Wikipedia:Neutral point of view">maintain a neutral point of view</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Spam#How_not_to_be_a_spammer" title="Wikipedia:Spam"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/No-spam.png/20px-No-spam.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="19" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/No-spam.png/30px-No-spam.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/No-spam.png/40px-No-spam.png 2x" data-file-width="365" data-file-height="342"/></a></span> Don't <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Spam#How_not_to_be_a_spammer" title="Wikipedia:Spam">spam</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights" title="Wikipedia:Copyrights"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c3/NotCommons-emblem-copyrighted.svg/20px-NotCommons-emblem-copyrighted.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c3/NotCommons-emblem-copyrighted.svg/30px-NotCommons-emblem-copyrighted.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c3/NotCommons-emblem-copyrighted.svg/40px-NotCommons-emblem-copyrighted.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> Don't <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights" title="Wikipedia:Copyrights">infringe copyright</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest" title="Wikipedia:Conflict of interest"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Crystal_Clear_app_error.png/20px-Crystal_Clear_app_error.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Crystal_Clear_app_error.png/30px-Crystal_Clear_app_error.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Crystal_Clear_app_error.png/40px-Crystal_Clear_app_error.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span> Don't <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest" title="Wikipedia:Conflict of interest">edit where you have a conflict of interest</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Vandalism" title="Wikipedia:Vandalism"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/20px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="17" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/30px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/40px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></a></span> Don't commit <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Vandalism" title="Wikipedia:Vandalism">vandalism</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy" title="Wikipedia:Blocking policy"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8b/Stop_hand.svg/20px-Stop_hand.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8b/Stop_hand.svg/30px-Stop_hand.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8b/Stop_hand.svg/40px-Stop_hand.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="64" data-file-height="64"/></a></span> Don't <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy" title="Wikipedia:Blocking policy">get blocked</a></dd></dl> </td></tr></tbody></table> <table width="100%" style="background-color:#f3f3f3;"> <tbody><tr> <td width="33.3%">If you need further help, you can: <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Questions" title="Wikipedia:Questions"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/Nuvola_apps_filetypes.svg/20px-Nuvola_apps_filetypes.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/Nuvola_apps_filetypes.svg/30px-Nuvola_apps_filetypes.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/Nuvola_apps_filetypes.svg/40px-Nuvola_apps_filetypes.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Questions" title="Wikipedia:Questions">Ask a question</a></dd></dl> </td> <td width="33.3%">or you can: <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/WP_teahouse_logo.png/20px-WP_teahouse_logo.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/WP_teahouse_logo.png/30px-WP_teahouse_logo.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/WP_teahouse_logo.png/40px-WP_teahouse_logo.png 2x" data-file-width="201" data-file-height="201"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">Get help at the Teahouse</a></dd></dl> </td> <td width="33.4%">or even: <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Adopt-a-user" title="Wikipedia:Adopt-a-user"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Presa_de_decissions.png/20px-Presa_de_decissions.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Presa_de_decissions.png/30px-Presa_de_decissions.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Presa_de_decissions.png/40px-Presa_de_decissions.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Adopt-a-user" title="Wikipedia:Adopt-a-user">Ask an experienced editor to "adopt" you</a></dd></dl> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Alternatively, leave me a message at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scope_creep" title="User talk:Scope creep">my talk page</a> or type <code>{{helpme}}</code> here on your talk page and someone will try to help. </p> <table width="100%" style="background-color:#fff;width:100%;border:1px solid #aae1ff;"> <tbody><tr> <td width="50%">There are many ways you can <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Contributing_to_Wikipedia" title="Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia">contribute to Wikipedia</a>. Here are a few ideas: <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_changes_patrol" title="Wikipedia:Recent changes patrol"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/Edit-find-replace.svg/20px-Edit-find-replace.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/Edit-find-replace.svg/30px-Edit-find-replace.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/Edit-find-replace.svg/40px-Edit-find-replace.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_changes_patrol" title="Wikipedia:Recent changes patrol">Fight vandalism</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiFairy" title="Wikipedia:WikiFairy"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Vista-Login_Manager.png/20px-Vista-Login_Manager.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Vista-Login_Manager.png/30px-Vista-Login_Manager.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Vista-Login_Manager.png/40px-Vista-Login_Manager.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span> Be a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiFairy" title="Wikipedia:WikiFairy">WikiFairy</a> or a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiGnome" title="Wikipedia:WikiGnome">WikiGnome</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Help:Editing" title="Help:Editing"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Crystal_package_settings.png/20px-Crystal_package_settings.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Crystal_package_settings.png/30px-Crystal_package_settings.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Crystal_package_settings.png/40px-Crystal_package_settings.png 2x" data-file-width="64" data-file-height="64"/></a></span> Help <a href="/wiki/Help:Editing" title="Help:Editing">contribute</a> to articles</dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_maintenance" title="Category:Wikipedia maintenance"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Vista-advancedsettings.png/20px-Vista-advancedsettings.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Vista-advancedsettings.png/30px-Vista-advancedsettings.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Vista-advancedsettings.png/40px-Vista-advancedsettings.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_maintenance" title="Category:Wikipedia maintenance">Perform maintenance tasks</a></dd></dl> </td> <td width="50%"> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Directory" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject 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You can <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Mypage/sandbox&action=edit&preload=Template:User_Sandbox/preload">create your own personal sandbox</a></span> for use any time. It's perfect for working on bigger projects. Then for easy access in the future, you can put <code>{{My sandbox}}</code> on your user page. By the way, seeing as you haven't created a user page yet, simply click <a href="/wiki/Special:MyPage" title="Special:MyPage">here</a> to start it. </p><p>Please remember to: </p> <ul><li>Always <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">sign your posts</a> on talk pages. You can do this either by clicking on the <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/OOUI_JS_signature_icon_LTR.png/22px-OOUI_JS_signature_icon_LTR.png" decoding="async" width="22" height="22" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/OOUI_JS_signature_icon_LTR.png/33px-OOUI_JS_signature_icon_LTR.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/OOUI_JS_signature_icon_LTR.png/44px-OOUI_JS_signature_icon_LTR.png 2x" data-file-width="110" data-file-height="109"/></a></span> button on the <a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_toolbar" title="Help:Edit toolbar">edit toolbar</a> or by typing four <a href="/wiki/Tilde" title="Tilde">tildes</a> <code>~~~~</code> at the end of your post. 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T11:21:00.000Z-Too_many_references"></span>Hi <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a>:</span> I think your putting too many refs into this tiny article per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REFBOMB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REFBOMB">WP:REFBOMB</a>. There is policy called <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CITEKILL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CITEKILL">WP:CITEKILL</a>. I whole lot will need to come out. <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Scope_creep" title="User:Scope creep"><span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scope_creep#top" title="User talk:Scope creep">Talk</a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T11:21:00.000Z-Too_many_references" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:21, 16 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T11:21:00.000Z-Too_many_references"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T11:21:00.000Z-Too_many_references"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T11:29:00.000Z-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T11:21:00.000Z"></span>Maybe some of them can be combined? I only added when new information was introduced that someone would question. Desmond is certainly notable so it’s not there is something to prove. <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T11:29:00.000Z-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T11:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:29, 16 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T11:29:00.000Z-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T11:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T11:29:00.000Z-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T11:21:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T11:48:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T11:29:00.000Z"></span>I never noticed until this morning how many there was. Every sentence could needs a ref is the standard. He is eminently notable so I don't think there is any problem with them removing at least 30 of them. Removal of duplicates is the ideal. It is 33k so not a huge amount, a couple of dozen. <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Scope_creep" title="User:Scope creep"><span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scope_creep#top" title="User talk:Scope creep">Talk</a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T11:48:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T11:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:48, 16 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T11:48:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T11:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T11:48:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T11:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T12:01:00.000Z-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T11:48:00.000Z"></span>I think removing any refs is a very bad idea, none of those guides really state that what we have is a problem. And this is a very touchy subject for a lot of people. There are multiple cases of the same ref being listed multiple times, maybe those could be combined? <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T12:01:00.000Z-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T11:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:01, 16 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T12:01:00.000Z-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T11:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T12:01:00.000Z-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T11:48:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T17:31:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T12:01:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a>:</span> Yip, I don't think there is any lack of references. It is wikipedia policy. It unusually one ref per fact, I think. I got called up for it, in similar situation donkeys ago, so it is genuine thing, a real policy. You can use ref tags as <ref name="john">jim</ref> and then apply <ref name="john"/> to another location and you only have one reference location, but it linked multiple times. There is only seven areas where is needs to be done, e.g. <i>Drag performances</i> section. I don't mind cleaning it up. Are you planning to stick around Gleeanon409, once you finish this. There is plenty of other articles that could do with some work.<b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Scope_creep" title="User:Scope creep"><span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scope_creep#top" title="User talk:Scope creep">Talk</a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T17:31:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T12:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:31, 16 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T17:31:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T12:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T17:31:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T12:01:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T21:24:00.000Z-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T17:31:00.000Z"></span>Generally we only have one ref per fact, some statements had more than one fact. Right now I haven’t figured out how to see the underlying code, I switched editing display so I could add full refs and I don’t know how to switch back. I’ll see if I can figure it out. <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T21:24:00.000Z-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T17:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:24, 16 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T21:24:00.000Z-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T17:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T21:24:00.000Z-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T17:31:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T22:12:00.000Z-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T17:31:00.000Z"></span>I found a combiner tool <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/view/Reflinks">Reflinks</a>, it worked! <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T22:12:00.000Z-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T17:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:12, 16 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T22:12:00.000Z-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T17:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-16T22:12:00.000Z-Scope_creep-2019-05-16T17:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MPS1992-2019-06-11T23:42:00.000Z-Too_many_references"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Scope_creep" title="User:Scope creep">Scope creep</a>:</span> did you notice that's not a policy, but actually only a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ESSAY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ESSAY">WP:ESSAY</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:MPS1992" title="User:MPS1992">MPS1992</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MPS1992" title="User talk:MPS1992">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-MPS1992-2019-06-11T23:42:00.000Z-Too_many_references" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:42, 11 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MPS1992-2019-06-11T23:42:00.000Z-Too_many_references"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MPS1992-2019-06-11T23:42:00.000Z-Too_many_references"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia_and_copyright" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia_and_copyright-2019-05-18T13:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia_and_copyright-2019-05-18T13:46:00.000Z"></span>Wikipedia and copyright<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia_and_copyright-2019-05-18T13:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gleeanon409&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Wikipedia and copyright"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Diannaa-2019-05-18T13:46:00.000Z-Wikipedia_and_copyright"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="Control copyright icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1b/Control_copyright_icon.svg/30px-Control_copyright_icon.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="29" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1b/Control_copyright_icon.svg/45px-Control_copyright_icon.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1b/Control_copyright_icon.svg/60px-Control_copyright_icon.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="171" data-file-height="163"/></span></span> Hello Gleeanon409, and welcome to Wikipedia. Your additions to <a href="/wiki/Gays_Against_Guns" title="Gays Against Guns">Gays Against Guns</a> have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the <a href="/wiki/Public_domain" title="Public domain">public domain</a> or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COMPLIC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COMPLIC">suitably-free and compatible</a> copyright license. (<i>To request such a release, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requesting_copyright_permission" title="Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission">Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission</a></i>.) 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See also <a href="/wiki/Help:Referencing_for_beginners" title="Help:Referencing for beginners">Help:Referencing for beginners</a>, for how to cite sources here.</li> <li>Aside from limited quotation, you must put all information <i>in your own words and structure</i>, in proper <a href="/wiki/Paraphrase" title="Paraphrase">paraphrase</a>. Following the source's words too closely can create <a href="/wiki/Derivative_work" title="Derivative work">copyright problems</a>, so it is not permitted here; see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Close_paraphrasing" title="Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing">Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing</a>. (There is a college-level introduction to paraphrase, with examples, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/619/01/">hosted by the Online Writing Lab of Purdue</a>.) Even when using your own words, you are still, however, asked to cite your sources to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability" title="Wikipedia:Verifiability">verify</a> the information and to demonstrate that the content is not <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research" title="Wikipedia:No original research">original research</a>.</li> <li>Our primary policy on using copyrighted content is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights" title="Wikipedia:Copyrights">Wikipedia:Copyrights</a>. You may also want to review <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Copy-paste" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Copy-paste">Wikipedia:Copy-paste</a>.</li> <li>If <i>you</i> own the copyright to the source you want to copy or are a legally designated agent, you <i>may</i> be able to license that text so that we can publish it here. Understand, though, that unlike many other sites, where a person can license their content for use there and retain non-free ownership, that is not possible at Wikipedia. Rather, the release of content must be irrevocable, <i>to the world</i>, into the <a href="/wiki/Public_domain" title="Public domain">public domain</a> (PD) or under a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ/Copyright#Can_I_add_something_to_Wikipedia_that_I_got_from_somewhere_else?" title="Wikipedia:FAQ/Copyright">suitably-free and compatible</a> copyright license. Such a release must be done in a verifiable manner, so that the authority of the person purporting to release the copyright is evidenced. 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If you <i>do</i> confirm that a source is public domain or compatibly licensed, you will still need to provide full attribution; see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Plagiarism" title="Wikipedia:Plagiarism">Wikipedia:Plagiarism</a> for the steps you need to follow.</li> <li>Also note that Wikipedia articles may not be copied or translated without attribution. If you want to copy or translate from another Wikipedia project or article, you must follow the copyright attribution steps in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Translation#How_to_translate" title="Wikipedia:Translation">Wikipedia:Translation#How to translate</a>. See also <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Copying_within_Wikipedia" title="Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia">Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia</a>.</li></ul> <p>It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy" title="Wikipedia:Blocking policy">blocked</a> from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. — <a href="/wiki/User:Diannaa" title="User:Diannaa">Diannaa</a> <span style="color:red">🍁</span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Diannaa" title="User talk:Diannaa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Diannaa-2019-05-18T13:46:00.000Z-Wikipedia_and_copyright" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:46, 18 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Diannaa-2019-05-18T13:46:00.000Z-Wikipedia_and_copyright"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Diannaa-2019-05-18T13:46:00.000Z-Wikipedia_and_copyright"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="help_please_-_Redirect" data-mw-thread-id="h-help_please_-_Redirect-2019-05-20T21:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-help_please_-_Redirect-2019-05-20T21:28:00.000Z"></span>help please - Redirect<span data-mw-comment-end="h-help_please_-_Redirect-2019-05-20T21:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gleeanon409&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: help please - Redirect"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-20T21:28:00.000Z-help_please_-_Redirect"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1237879475">.mw-parser-output .tmbox{margin:4px 0;border-collapse:collapse;border:1px solid #c0c090;background-color:#f8eaba;box-sizing:border-box}.mw-parser-output .tmbox.mbox-small{font-size:88%;line-height:1.25em}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-speedy{border:2px solid #b32424;background-color:#fee7e6}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-delete{border:2px solid #b32424}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-content{border:2px solid #f28500}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-style{border:2px solid #fc3}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-move{border:2px solid #9932cc}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-text{border:none;padding:0.25em 0.9em;width:100%}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-image{border:none;padding:2px 0 2px 0.9em;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-imageright{border:none;padding:2px 0.9em 2px 0;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-empty-cell{border:none;padding:0;width:1px}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-invalid-type{text-align:center}@media(min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .tmbox{margin:4px 10%}.mw-parser-output .tmbox.mbox-small{clear:right;float:right;margin:4px 0 4px 1em;width:238px}}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .tmbox{background-color:#2e2505}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .tmbox-speedy{background-color:#310402}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .tmbox{background-color:#2e2505}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .tmbox-speedy{background-color:#310402}}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output table.tmbox img{max-width:none!important}</style><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-style" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_resolved.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="check-mark" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Pictogram_resolved.svg/25px-Pictogram_resolved.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Pictogram_resolved.svg/38px-Pictogram_resolved.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Pictogram_resolved.svg/50px-Pictogram_resolved.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Template:Help_me" title="Template:Help me">help request</a> has been answered. If you need more help, you can <span class="noprint plainlinks" title="Edit Special:MyTalk"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:MyTalk&action=edit&section=new&preload=Help:Contents/helpmepreload&preloadtitle=Help+me%21"><b>ask another question</b> on your talk page</a></span>, contact the responding user(s) directly on their <a href="/wiki/Help:Introduction_to_talk_pages/2" title="Help:Introduction to talk pages/2">user talk page</a>, or consider visiting the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">Teahouse</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>I want to edit <a href="/wiki/GuRu_(book)" class="mw-redirect" title="GuRu (book)">GuRu (book)</a> but the redirect is preventing me from getting to the page to start the article. Could someone remove the redirect code so I can start? <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-20T21:28:00.000Z-help_please_-_Redirect" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:28, 20 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-20T21:28:00.000Z-help_please_-_Redirect"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-20T21:28:00.000Z-help_please_-_Redirect"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Crazycomputers-2019-05-20T21:49:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-20T21:28:00.000Z"></span>The redirect doesn't need to be deleted. Click the link in your message above and you will be redirected. Right under the article title, you will see this text:</dd> <dd><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1237805129">.mw-parser-output .talkquote{color:var(--color-base,#202122);background-color:#eaf8f4;border-left:3px solid #008560;padding:0 .8em;margin:0}.mw-parser-output .talkquote-by,.mw-parser-output .talkquote-source{margin-left:1.6em}.mw-parser-output .skin-vector-2022 .talkquote>:last-child{padding-bottom:0}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}</style><blockquote class="talkquote"><p>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia<br/>(Redirected from GuRu (book))</p></blockquote></dd> <dd>You'll notice that "GuRu (book)" is a link -- click that to be taken to the redirect page, which will suppress the redirect. You can then edit that page directly. --<a href="/wiki/User:Crazycomputers" title="User:Crazycomputers">Chris</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Crazycomputers" title="User talk:Crazycomputers">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Crazycomputers-2019-05-20T21:49:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-20T21:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:49, 20 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Crazycomputers-2019-05-20T21:49:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-20T21:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Crazycomputers-2019-05-20T21:49:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-20T21:28:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-20T22:06:00.000Z-Crazycomputers-2019-05-20T21:49:00.000Z"></span>That doesn’t work on my phone, it only keeps sending me to RuPaul. <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-20T22:06:00.000Z-Crazycomputers-2019-05-20T21:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:06, 20 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-20T22:06:00.000Z-Crazycomputers-2019-05-20T21:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-20T22:06:00.000Z-Crazycomputers-2019-05-20T21:49:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scope_creep-2019-05-20T22:55:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-20T22:06:00.000Z"></span>Click on the link at the top of the article and it will take you back. <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Scope_creep" title="User:Scope creep"><span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scope_creep#top" title="User talk:Scope creep">Talk</a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Scope_creep-2019-05-20T22:55:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-20T22:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:55, 20 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scope_creep-2019-05-20T22:55:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-20T22:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scope_creep-2019-05-20T22:55:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-20T22:06:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T02:47:00.000Z-Scope_creep-2019-05-20T22:55:00.000Z"></span>As I’ve stated that doesn’t work, I don’t get a link to go back on redirects apparently just a brief pop up that tells me what happened but no link in the pop up box. <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T02:47:00.000Z-Scope_creep-2019-05-20T22:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:47, 21 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T02:47:00.000Z-Scope_creep-2019-05-20T22:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T02:47:00.000Z-Scope_creep-2019-05-20T22:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scio_c-2019-05-21T04:04:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T02:47:00.000Z"></span>Hello, try going to <a class="external free" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=GuRu_(book)&redirect=no">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=GuRu_(book)&redirect=no</a> or you could also temporarily switch to desktop mode (There should be a Desktop link at the bottom of the page next to Terms of user and Privacy) then the link he is talking about will show up - <a href="/wiki/User:Scio_c" title="User:Scio c">Scio c</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scio_c" title="User talk:Scio c">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Scio_c-2019-05-21T04:04:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T02:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:04, 21 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scio_c-2019-05-21T04:04:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T02:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scio_c-2019-05-21T04:04:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T02:47:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T09:29:00.000Z-Scio_c-2019-05-21T04:04:00.000Z"></span>It worked! Thank you so much! <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T09:29:00.000Z-Scio_c-2019-05-21T04:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:29, 21 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T09:29:00.000Z-Scio_c-2019-05-21T04:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T09:29:00.000Z-Scio_c-2019-05-21T04:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alpha3031-2019-05-21T04:16:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-20T21:28:00.000Z"></span>I'm going to mark the question as resolved for now since multiple people have responded and the <code>&redirect=no</code> should work for all devices. If it doesn't work, feel free to restore the template. You can also create the page anywhere else (e.g. at <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:GuRu&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:GuRu (page does not exist)">Draft:GuRu</a>) and ask it to be moved over (replacing the redirect) when you're close to done, if that would be easier. <a href="/wiki/User:Alpha3031" title="User:Alpha3031">Alpha3031</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alpha3031" title="User talk:Alpha3031">t</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Alpha3031" title="Special:Contributions/Alpha3031">c</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Alpha3031-2019-05-21T04:16:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-20T21:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:16, 21 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alpha3031-2019-05-21T04:16:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-20T21:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alpha3031-2019-05-21T04:16:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-20T21:28:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T09:29:00.000Z-Alpha3031-2019-05-21T04:16:00.000Z"></span>I was able to edit but I couldn’t delete the redirect. <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T09:29:00.000Z-Alpha3031-2019-05-21T04:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:29, 21 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T09:29:00.000Z-Alpha3031-2019-05-21T04:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T09:29:00.000Z-Alpha3031-2019-05-21T04:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T09:29:00.000Z-help_please_-_Redirect"></span>Could someone delete the redirect from <a href="/wiki/GuRu_(book)" class="mw-redirect" title="GuRu (book)">GuRu (book)</a>? There’s an article there. <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T09:29:00.000Z-help_please_-_Redirect" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:29, 21 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T09:29:00.000Z-help_please_-_Redirect"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T09:29:00.000Z-help_please_-_Redirect"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Þjarkur-2019-05-21T12:03:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T09:29:00.000Z"></span>The redirect is no longer there, you've converted it to an article now. – <i><b><a href="/wiki/User:%C3%9Ejarkur" title="User:Þjarkur">Þjarkur</a></b></i> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:%C3%9Ejarkur" title="User talk:Þjarkur">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Þjarkur-2019-05-21T12:03:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T09:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:03, 21 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Þjarkur-2019-05-21T12:03:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T09:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Þjarkur-2019-05-21T12:03:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T09:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T12:26:00.000Z-Þjarkur-2019-05-21T12:03:00.000Z"></span>Thank you! <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T12:26:00.000Z-Þjarkur-2019-05-21T12:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:26, 21 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T12:26:00.000Z-Þjarkur-2019-05-21T12:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2019-05-21T12:26:00.000Z-Þjarkur-2019-05-21T12:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Need_to_rename_Camp;_Notes_on_Fashion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Need_to_rename_Camp;_Notes_on_Fashion-2019-06-02T17:03:00.000Z"><span id="Need_to_rename_Camp.3B_Notes_on_Fashion"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Need_to_rename_Camp;_Notes_on_Fashion-2019-06-02T17:03:00.000Z"></span>Need to rename <a href="/w/index.php?title=Camp;_Notes_on_Fashion&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Camp; Notes on Fashion (page does not exist)">Camp; Notes on Fashion</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Need_to_rename_Camp;_Notes_on_Fashion-2019-06-02T17:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gleeanon409&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Need to rename Camp; Notes on Fashion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-06-02T17:03:00.000Z-Need_to_rename_Camp;_Notes_on_Fashion"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-style" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pictogram_resolved.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="check-mark" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Pictogram_resolved.svg/25px-Pictogram_resolved.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Pictogram_resolved.svg/38px-Pictogram_resolved.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Pictogram_resolved.svg/50px-Pictogram_resolved.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Template:Help_me" title="Template:Help me">help request</a> has been answered. If you need more help, you can <span class="noprint plainlinks" title="Edit Special:MyTalk"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:MyTalk&action=edit&section=new&preload=Help:Contents/helpmepreload&preloadtitle=Help+me%21"><b>ask another question</b> on your talk page</a></span>, contact the responding user(s) directly on their <a href="/wiki/Help:Introduction_to_talk_pages/2" title="Help:Introduction to talk pages/2">user talk page</a>, or consider visiting the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">Teahouse</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Hi! I must have made a typo. Can you please rename <a href="/w/index.php?title=Camp;_Notes_on_Fashion&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Camp; Notes on Fashion (page does not exist)">Camp; Notes on Fashion</a> to <a href="/wiki/Camp:_Notes_on_Fashion" title="Camp: Notes on Fashion">Camp: Notes on Fashion</a>? The punctuation was wrong. <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2019-06-02T17:03:00.000Z-Need_to_rename_Camp;_Notes_on_Fashion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:03, 2 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-06-02T17:03:00.000Z-Need_to_rename_Camp;_Notes_on_Fashion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2019-06-02T17:03:00.000Z-Need_to_rename_Camp;_Notes_on_Fashion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huon-2019-06-02T17:48:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-06-02T17:03:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b></span>. For future reference <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">WP:Requested moves</a> is a good place to ask for page moves. <a href="/wiki/User:Huon" title="User:Huon">Huon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huon" title="User talk:Huon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Huon-2019-06-02T17:48:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-06-02T17:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:48, 2 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huon-2019-06-02T17:48:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-06-02T17:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huon-2019-06-02T17:48:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-06-02T17:03:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-06-02T18:08:00.000Z-Huon-2019-06-02T17:48:00.000Z"></span>Thank you! I’ll keep the page move in mind if it happens again. <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2019-06-02T18:08:00.000Z-Huon-2019-06-02T17:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:08, 2 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-06-02T18:08:00.000Z-Huon-2019-06-02T17:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2019-06-02T18:08:00.000Z-Huon-2019-06-02T17:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DGG-2019-06-03T07:18:00.000Z-Huon-2019-06-02T17:48:00.000Z"></span>Good job with the article. Do you think you could possibly make similar articles for their earlier exhibitions? They don't have to be as detailed--if you start then, others will add to them. <b><a href="/wiki/User:DGG" title="User:DGG"> DGG</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DGG" title="User talk:DGG"> talk </a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-DGG-2019-06-03T07:18:00.000Z-Huon-2019-06-02T17:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:18, 3 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DGG-2019-06-03T07:18:00.000Z-Huon-2019-06-02T17:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DGG-2019-06-03T07:18:00.000Z-Huon-2019-06-02T17:48:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-06-03T19:27:00.000Z-DGG-2019-06-03T07:18:00.000Z"></span>Thank you! I was trying to get it into good shape as the exhibit is already open. Two of the articles are already done but I’ll consider doing the other two. <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2019-06-03T19:27:00.000Z-DGG-2019-06-03T07:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:27, 3 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-06-03T19:27:00.000Z-DGG-2019-06-03T07:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2019-06-03T19:27:00.000Z-DGG-2019-06-03T07:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_kitten_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_kitten_for_you!-2019-06-09T16:31:00.000Z"><span id="A_kitten_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_kitten_for_you!-2019-06-09T16:31:00.000Z"></span>A kitten for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_kitten_for_you!-2019-06-09T16:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gleeanon409&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: A kitten for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-QueerEcofeminist-2019-06-09T16:31:00.000Z-A_kitten_for_you!"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Cute_grey_kitten.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Cute_grey_kitten.jpg/150px-Cute_grey_kitten.jpg" decoding="async" width="150" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Cute_grey_kitten.jpg/225px-Cute_grey_kitten.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Cute_grey_kitten.jpg/300px-Cute_grey_kitten.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3008" data-file-height="2000"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Nice start with <a href="/wiki/Sweet_Tea:_Black_Gay_Men_of_the_South%E2%80%94An_Oral_History" title="Sweet Tea: Black Gay Men of the South—An Oral History">Sweet Tea: Black Gay Men of the South—An Oral History</a> Keep it, add more references and feel free to ask me if you need any help regarding improvements. I can help you in finding references, getting research articles/books too. thanks </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:QueerEcofeminist" title="User:QueerEcofeminist"> <b><span style="background color: black; color:#008000">QueerEcofeminist</span></b></a><sup> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:QueerEcofeminist" title="User talk:QueerEcofeminist"><span style="color: maroon">"cite! even if you fight"!!!</span></a></sup> [they/them/their] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-QueerEcofeminist-2019-06-09T16:31:00.000Z-A_kitten_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:31, 9 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-QueerEcofeminist-2019-06-09T16:31:00.000Z-A_kitten_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-QueerEcofeminist-2019-06-09T16:31:00.000Z-A_kitten_for_you!"></span> <br style="clear: both;"/> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-06-09T19:33:00.000Z-QueerEcofeminist-2019-06-09T16:31:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:QueerEcofeminist" title="User:QueerEcofeminist">QueerEcofeminist</a>:</span>, I would love any reference you can find. I did as much as I could but now paywalls and subscriptions have stopped me in my tracks. I know there is at least five journal reviews, and countless books that talk about Sweet Tea but I can’t seem to access them. <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2019-06-09T19:33:00.000Z-QueerEcofeminist-2019-06-09T16:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:33, 9 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-06-09T19:33:00.000Z-QueerEcofeminist-2019-06-09T16:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2019-06-09T19:33:00.000Z-QueerEcofeminist-2019-06-09T16:31:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-QueerEcofeminist-2019-06-10T03:58:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-06-09T19:33:00.000Z"></span>Gleeanon409</a>, Send me your email address on sureshkhole.com@gmail.com , I can give you a few more reviews. <a href="/wiki/User:QueerEcofeminist" title="User:QueerEcofeminist"> <b><span style="background color: black; color:#008000">QueerEcofeminist</span></b></a><sup> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:QueerEcofeminist" title="User talk:QueerEcofeminist"><span style="color: maroon">"cite! even if you fight"!!!</span></a></sup> [they/them/their] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-QueerEcofeminist-2019-06-10T03:58:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-06-09T19:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:58, 10 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-QueerEcofeminist-2019-06-10T03:58:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-06-09T19:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-QueerEcofeminist-2019-06-10T03:58:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-06-09T19:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd>Also <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RX" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RX">WP:RX</a> If you know the source but can’t access it.</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tip_of_the_Day" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tip_of_the_Day"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tip_of_the_Day"></span>Tip of the Day<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tip_of_the_Day"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gleeanon409&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Tip of the Day"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div role="complementary" aria-labelledby="totd-label" style="overflow:hidden; box-sizing:border-box; margin:0.5em auto 0; border:solid medium #ADD8E6; border-radius:15px; width:90%; padding:1.4em 0.9em 1em 1.2em;"> <div id="totd-label" style="font-size:90%;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Tip_of_the_day" title="Wikipedia:Tip of the day">Tip of the day...</a></div> <figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/Simple_light_bulb_graphic.png/120px-Simple_light_bulb_graphic.png" decoding="async" width="120" height="125" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/Simple_light_bulb_graphic.png/180px-Simple_light_bulb_graphic.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/Simple_light_bulb_graphic.png/240px-Simple_light_bulb_graphic.png 2x" data-file-width="717" data-file-height="744"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><span style="font-size:120%"><b>How to look at the changes to an article</b></span></div> <div class="thumb tright" style=""><div class="thumbinner" style="width:-moz-fit-content; width:fit-content;"><div class="thumbimage noresize" style="width:auto;"> <span style="font-size:85%;"><i>Select...</i><br/> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:MediaWiki_1.21wmf3_page_history_screenshot.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Article version selection"><img alt="Article version selection" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/MediaWiki_1.21wmf3_page_history_screenshot.svg/120px-MediaWiki_1.21wmf3_page_history_screenshot.svg.png" decoding="async" width="120" height="67" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/MediaWiki_1.21wmf3_page_history_screenshot.svg/180px-MediaWiki_1.21wmf3_page_history_screenshot.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/MediaWiki_1.21wmf3_page_history_screenshot.svg/240px-MediaWiki_1.21wmf3_page_history_screenshot.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="2720" data-file-height="1520"/></a></span> <br/><i>...and compare!</i><br/> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Diffreport.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Differences between two page versions"><img alt="Differences between two page versions" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Diffreport.jpg/121px-Diffreport.jpg" decoding="async" width="121" height="87" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Diffreport.jpg/182px-Diffreport.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Diffreport.jpg/242px-Diffreport.jpg 2x" data-file-width="400" data-file-height="289"/></a></span> <br/></span></div></div></div> <p>In the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Page_history" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Page history">page history</a> for any page, click <b>(prev)</b> (#9 on the image top right‍—‌click on the image to see a larger version) to see the changes for any version from the one just before it. 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You always can <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Revert" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Revert">revert</a> to an earlier version by selecting it from the history, editing and saving it. We call these "diffs" because the URL has the word "diff" in it. 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background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:top;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gog_the_Mild-2020-01-31T17:44:00.000Z-In_appreciation"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:LGBT_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/LGBT_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-LGBT_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/LGBT_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-LGBT_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/LGBT_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-LGBT_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: bottom; height: 1.1em;"><b>The LGBT Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;">By the authority vested in me by myself it gives me great pleasure to present you with this barnstar in recognition of your timely and articulate opposition to the erasure of historic LGBTQ relationships. <a href="/wiki/User:Gog_the_Mild" title="User:Gog the Mild">Gog the Mild</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gog_the_Mild" title="User talk:Gog the Mild">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gog_the_Mild-2020-01-31T17:44:00.000Z-In_appreciation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:44, 31 January 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gog_the_Mild-2020-01-31T17:44:00.000Z-In_appreciation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gog_the_Mild-2020-01-31T17:44:00.000Z-In_appreciation"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2020-01-31T18:17:00.000Z-In_appreciation"></span>Wow! Thank you so much! <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2020-01-31T18:17:00.000Z-In_appreciation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:17, 31 January 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2020-01-31T18:17:00.000Z-In_appreciation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2020-01-31T18:17:00.000Z-In_appreciation"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cassianto-2020-02-01T00:14:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-01-31T18:17:00.000Z"></span>I don't think anybody is trying to erase anything, <a href="/wiki/User:Gog_the_Mild" title="User:Gog the Mild">Gog the Mild</a>. The nominator hasn't even responded yet! It simply may be a case of the nom not even realising it. To say this was an "attempt" to erase such an important issue is assuming bad faith. <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;"><a href="/wiki/User:Cassianto" title="User:Cassianto"><span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Cassianto</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cassianto#top" title="User talk:Cassianto"><span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Talk</span></a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Cassianto-2020-02-01T00:14:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-01-31T18:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:14, 1 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cassianto-2020-02-01T00:14:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-01-31T18:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cassianto-2020-02-01T00:14:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-01-31T18:17:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T00:29:00.000Z-Cassianto-2020-02-01T00:14:00.000Z"></span>Whether it was intentional or not, the net effect is similar to cases where prose is changed from ‘Foo realized he was gay at six years old’ to ‘Foo discovered his sexuality at six years old’. They might mean the the same thing but to me feel miles apart and purposely erasive. One can always claim innocence but after a series of similar edits all erasing LGBQ sexualities a pattern emerges. I just happened to stumble upon a case like that last year. This case may be well innocent but the ease at which all LGBTQ categories were just plucked off was a bit chilling to me. If they really don’t belong then all is well but two women who marry feels like it’s an LGBTQ relationship. <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T00:29:00.000Z-Cassianto-2020-02-01T00:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:29, 1 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T00:29:00.000Z-Cassianto-2020-02-01T00:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T00:29:00.000Z-Cassianto-2020-02-01T00:14:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cassianto-2020-02-01T00:58:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T00:29:00.000Z"></span>We simply cannot be accusing someone of bigotry when they haven't even had the chance to answer for themselves. The use of "attempt" conveys the idea that it is premeditated, when there is no evidence whatsoever to suggest it is homophobia. Ok, so there have been a few edits that have been questionable, but we should be assuming good faith until such a time when it becomes apparent that they they <i>are</i> being homophobic and that is the time they should then be reported. <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;"><a href="/wiki/User:Cassianto" title="User:Cassianto"><span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Cassianto</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cassianto#top" title="User talk:Cassianto"><span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Talk</span></a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Cassianto-2020-02-01T00:58:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T00:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:58, 1 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cassianto-2020-02-01T00:58:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T00:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cassianto-2020-02-01T00:58:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T00:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T01:06:00.000Z-Cassianto-2020-02-01T00:58:00.000Z"></span>I generally agree, cheers! <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T01:06:00.000Z-Cassianto-2020-02-01T00:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:06, 1 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T01:06:00.000Z-Cassianto-2020-02-01T00:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T01:06:00.000Z-Cassianto-2020-02-01T00:58:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gog_the_Mild-2020-02-01T01:22:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T01:06:00.000Z"></span>Repeated edit clash. The debate is over whether the LGBT category tags should be/have been removed. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Margaret_Macpherson_Grant&type=revision&diff=938499703&oldid=938490574&diffmode=source">They have been erased.</a> It is not an "<span style="white-space: nowrap;"> </span>"attempt"<span style="white-space: nowrap;"> </span>", it is an accomplished fact. Gleeanon409 objected, promptly and civilly, to this. I commended them for it.</dd> <dd>I am not sure why you are throwing around words like "homophobia". We are simply having a civil debate as to the threshold of evidence required to support a particular cat tag. ABF is not helpful.</dd> <dd>As I said in the FAC "I also think that the main author has got the balance spot-on." Not surprising - from the main author's nomination statement "Gog the Mild has been very helpful with reviews and suggestions for improvements." (<a href="/wiki/User:Girth_Summit" title="User:Girth Summit">Girth Summit</a> by the by is one of the most sensible and considerate editors I have come across.)</dd> <dd>I agree with your opinion that category allocation is not a FA criteria. But that is our opinion. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> brought it up as part of their FAC review. We can seek consensus that it shouldn't be there. We shouldn't, IMO, unilaterally remove part of a review; still less should we remove just the subsequent discussion attempting to reach consensus. Personally I have no problem with TRM's comments, other than thinking that they don't belong in a FAC and disagreeing with their suggestion. That's a run of the mill content dispute, being settled by reference to policy. I am even defending TRM's right to keep his comments on the FAC, despite disagreeing with them.</dd> <dd>It may well be that I am misreading my own comments, but if there is any lack of AGF by me, then whoever points out just where will receive a fulsome apology. <a href="/wiki/User:Gog_the_Mild" title="User:Gog the Mild">Gog the Mild</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gog_the_Mild" title="User talk:Gog the Mild">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gog_the_Mild-2020-02-01T01:22:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T01:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 1 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gog_the_Mild-2020-02-01T01:22:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T01:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gog_the_Mild-2020-02-01T01:22:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T01:06:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cassianto-2020-02-01T07:24:00.000Z-Gog_the_Mild-2020-02-01T01:22:00.000Z"></span>I am throwing around words like "homophobia" as in my view, making an "attempt" to erase LGBTQ history, facts or any mention of homosexual relationships, whether it be in the form of prose or tags, suggests homophobia. Simply erasing LGBTQ history, facts or any mention of homosexual relationships, whether it be in the form of prose or tags, may not be homophobia. It is your use of the word "attempt" in the barnstar above that I object to as it suggests malevolence when there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to suggest that this is the case. I am in no doubt that your intentions were honourable, let's make no mistake about that, but we enter dodgy ground when we start making indirect allegations of bigotry when that may not even be the case. <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;"><a href="/wiki/User:Cassianto" title="User:Cassianto"><span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Cassianto</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cassianto#top" title="User talk:Cassianto"><span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Talk</span></a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Cassianto-2020-02-01T07:24:00.000Z-Gog_the_Mild-2020-02-01T01:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:24, 1 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cassianto-2020-02-01T07:24:00.000Z-Gog_the_Mild-2020-02-01T01:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cassianto-2020-02-01T07:24:00.000Z-Gog_the_Mild-2020-02-01T01:22:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gog_the_Mild-2020-02-01T11:33:00.000Z-Cassianto-2020-02-01T07:24:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Cassianto" title="User:Cassianto">Cassianto</a>:</span> Thank you for so clearly isolating your area of concern. Even with that I struggle to so how it is a tenable reading. But I claim no expertise in the nuances of English, and if a reasonable reader, such as you, can find the word "attempt" so loaded, then it is probably best if I remove it.</dd> <dd>Gleeanon409, I am extremely wary of altering anything on your talk page, even if it is my own words and within a barnstar citation. Can I ask for your forbearance in this case. <a href="/wiki/User:Gog_the_Mild" title="User:Gog the Mild">Gog the Mild</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gog_the_Mild" title="User talk:Gog the Mild">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gog_the_Mild-2020-02-01T11:33:00.000Z-Cassianto-2020-02-01T07:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:33, 1 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gog_the_Mild-2020-02-01T11:33:00.000Z-Cassianto-2020-02-01T07:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gog_the_Mild-2020-02-01T11:33:00.000Z-Cassianto-2020-02-01T07:24:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cassianto-2020-02-01T11:50:00.000Z-Gog_the_Mild-2020-02-01T11:33:00.000Z"></span>No problem Gog, and thank you for your understanding. <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;"><a href="/wiki/User:Cassianto" title="User:Cassianto"><span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Cassianto</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cassianto#top" title="User talk:Cassianto"><span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Talk</span></a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Cassianto-2020-02-01T11:50:00.000Z-Gog_the_Mild-2020-02-01T11:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:50, 1 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cassianto-2020-02-01T11:50:00.000Z-Gog_the_Mild-2020-02-01T11:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cassianto-2020-02-01T11:50:00.000Z-Gog_the_Mild-2020-02-01T11:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-bottom:1px solid #a2a9b1;border-right:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-left:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span></div><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Girth_Summit-2020-02-01T11:54:00.000Z-In_appreciation"></span>Hi Gleeanon409 - I don't want this to become unpleasant, and I'm not here to have a go at you - indeed, I think that your comments at the FAC discussion have been fair, reasonable and helpful. Having just seen something you've written above though, I want to make one thing entirely clear: I have no wish to erase lesbian history. I wrote the article from scratch (in collaboration with another editor) because I found Macpherson Grant's story so compelling - I was attempting to <i>expand</i> our content on the history of gay people, not to erase anything. I think it was my collaborator, rather than myself, who added those categories, but I was perfectly happy with them being there. You say that you found their removal 'chilling' - please let me explain exactly what happened from my perspective. First, an experienced reviewer said that he was not sure the categories were appropriate because of the lack of sourcing explicitly confirming her sexuality; in doing so, he suggested that we remove them <i>temporarily</i> and put it to WikiProject LGBT Studies for comment, and that he would be happy with whatever the consensus was. So, I acknowledged his concerns at the FAC discussion, I removed the categories with an edit summary referencing that discussion, and in my very next edit I posted at the talk page for WikiProject LGBT Studies asking for editors with knowledge of this area to comment. How you can see that as chilling escapes me - what could I possibly have done to be more open and collegiate about this? </p><p>I'm also troubled by your mention above of <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">a series of similar edits all erasing LGBQ sexualities</q> - no such series exists in connection to me, I'm not aware of ever having removed categories like this from any article in the past, and I don't understand why you've raised this. I appreciate that you are naturally and rightly concerned about the possibility of biased editing in this area, and I thank you for your vigilance; please also recognise that even the suggestion that one might have homophobic motivations can be deeply unpleasant. Saying <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">This case may well be innocent</q> is not sufficient - this case is most certainly entirely innocent, and I'd thank you if you'd be kind enough to acknowledge that explicitly. Please feel free to examine my contributions history thoroughly to satisfy yourself about that. Cheers <a href="/wiki/User:Girth_Summit" title="User:Girth Summit"><span style="font-family:Impact;color:#294;">Girth</span><span style="font-family:Impact;color:#42c;">Summit</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Girth_Summit" title="User talk:Girth Summit"><sub style="font-family:script;color:blue;"> (blether)</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Girth_Summit-2020-02-01T11:54:00.000Z-In_appreciation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:54, 1 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Girth_Summit-2020-02-01T11:54:00.000Z-In_appreciation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Girth_Summit-2020-02-01T11:54:00.000Z-In_appreciation"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T13:09:00.000Z-Girth_Summit-2020-02-01T11:54:00.000Z"></span>I may have felt, it’s a thing these days, “triggered”, to see such a quick removal of all the categories, easily I might be just too sensitive on the subject. For me it brought up instances I’ve witnessed on Wikipedia before of purposeful anti-LGBTQ erasure. I may have been using short-handed explanations as to my concerns so please accept my apologies if that caused problems.</dd> <dd>The issue is being looked at and pretty much universally it’s been explained no harm was meant. That’s good enough for me. Thank you for taking the time to check in.</dd> <dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Gog_the_Mild" title="User:Gog the Mild">Gog the Mild</a>:</span>, no worries, do whatever is needed, I trust you! <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T13:09:00.000Z-Girth_Summit-2020-02-01T11:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:09, 1 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T13:09:00.000Z-Girth_Summit-2020-02-01T11:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T13:09:00.000Z-Girth_Summit-2020-02-01T11:54:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Girth_Summit-2020-02-01T14:56:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T13:09:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for these words - that's also good enough for me. No harm done all round, thanks for taking an interest in the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Girth_Summit" title="User:Girth Summit"><span style="font-family:Impact;color:#294;">Girth</span><span style="font-family:Impact;color:#42c;">Summit</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Girth_Summit" title="User talk:Girth Summit"><sub style="font-family:script;color:blue;"> (blether)</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Girth_Summit-2020-02-01T14:56:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T13:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:56, 1 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Girth_Summit-2020-02-01T14:56:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T13:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Girth_Summit-2020-02-01T14:56:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-02-01T13:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Girth_Summit" title="User:Girth Summit"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cassianto-2020-02-01T15:19:00.000Z-Girth_Summit-2020-02-01T11:54:00.000Z"></span>Girth Summit</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Gog_the_Mild" title="User:Gog the Mild">Gog the Mild</a> and Gleeanon409, thank you for the time; apologies for my over-cautiousness, and thanks for your time here. Best regards. <b><span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;"><a href="/wiki/User:Cassianto" title="User:Cassianto"><span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Cassianto</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cassianto#top" title="User talk:Cassianto"><span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Talk</span></a></sup></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Cassianto-2020-02-01T15:19:00.000Z-Girth_Summit-2020-02-01T11:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 1 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cassianto-2020-02-01T15:19:00.000Z-Girth_Summit-2020-02-01T11:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cassianto-2020-02-01T15:19:00.000Z-Girth_Summit-2020-02-01T11:54:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Shantay,_you_stay." data-mw-thread-id="h-Shantay,_you_stay.-2020-07-18T20:09:00.000Z"><span id="Shantay.2C_you_stay."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Shantay,_you_stay.-2020-07-18T20:09:00.000Z"></span>Shantay, you stay.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Shantay,_you_stay.-2020-07-18T20:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gleeanon409&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Shantay, you stay."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:top;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-18T20:09:00.000Z-Shantay,_you_stay."></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:RuBarn.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/RuBarn.png/100px-RuBarn.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/RuBarn.png/150px-RuBarn.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/RuBarn.png/200px-RuBarn.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: bottom; height: 1.1em;"><b>The RuPaul Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;">For your work on <a href="/wiki/List_of_Rusicals" class="mw-redirect" title="List of Rusicals">List of Rusicals</a> and other articles related to the show, congratulations you're a winner. <a href="/wiki/User:AgnosticPreachersKid" class="mw-redirect" title="User:AgnosticPreachersKid"><b><span style="color: #000080;"><b>APK</b></span></b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AgnosticPreachersKid" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:AgnosticPreachersKid"><span style="color: #99BADD;"><b>whisper in my ear</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-18T20:09:00.000Z-Shantay,_you_stay." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:09, 18 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-18T20:09:00.000Z-Shantay,_you_stay."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-18T20:09:00.000Z-Shantay,_you_stay."></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2020-07-18T20:37:00.000Z-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-18T20:09:00.000Z"></span>Thank you so much! I’ll do the tour and sign every autograph! <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2020-07-18T20:37:00.000Z-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-18T20:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:37, 18 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2020-07-18T20:37:00.000Z-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-18T20:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2020-07-18T20:37:00.000Z-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-18T20:09:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Another_Believer-2020-07-29T21:59:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-07-18T20:37:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:APK" title="User:APK">APK</a>:</span> I think you meant <i>condragulations</i> :p ---<a href="/wiki/User:Another_Believer" title="User:Another Believer"><span style="color:navy">Another Believer</span></a> <sub>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Another_Believer" title="User talk:Another Believer"><span style="color:#C60">Talk</span></a>)</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Another_Believer-2020-07-29T21:59:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-07-18T20:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:59, 29 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Another_Believer-2020-07-29T21:59:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-07-18T20:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Another_Believer-2020-07-29T21:59:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-07-18T20:37:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-29T23:39:00.000Z-Another_Believer-2020-07-29T21:59:00.000Z"></span>or (in my best Raja or Raven voice) SHOOT! <a href="/wiki/User:AgnosticPreachersKid" class="mw-redirect" title="User:AgnosticPreachersKid"><b><span style="color: #000080;"><b>APK</b></span></b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AgnosticPreachersKid" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:AgnosticPreachersKid"><span style="color: #99BADD;"><b>whisper in my ear</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-29T23:39:00.000Z-Another_Believer-2020-07-29T21:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:39, 29 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-29T23:39:00.000Z-Another_Believer-2020-07-29T21:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-29T23:39:00.000Z-Another_Believer-2020-07-29T21:59:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2020-07-29T23:54:00.000Z-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-29T23:39:00.000Z"></span>I thought it was Toot! <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2020-07-29T23:54:00.000Z-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-29T23:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:54, 29 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2020-07-29T23:54:00.000Z-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-29T23:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2020-07-29T23:54:00.000Z-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-29T23:39:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-30T00:19:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-07-29T23:54:00.000Z"></span>The best ones get a SHOOT and Raven is known to be a lot pickier when giving that honor. <a href="/wiki/User:AgnosticPreachersKid" class="mw-redirect" title="User:AgnosticPreachersKid"><b><span style="color: #000080;"><b>APK</b></span></b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AgnosticPreachersKid" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:AgnosticPreachersKid"><span style="color: #99BADD;"><b>whisper in my ear</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-30T00:19:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-07-29T23:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:19, 30 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-30T00:19:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-07-29T23:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-30T00:19:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-07-29T23:54:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2020-07-30T01:06:00.000Z-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-30T00:19:00.000Z"></span>Fabulous! <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2020-07-30T01:06:00.000Z-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-30T00:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:06, 30 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2020-07-30T01:06:00.000Z-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-30T00:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2020-07-30T01:06:00.000Z-AgnosticPreachersKid-2020-07-30T00:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_Dobos_torte_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_Dobos_torte_for_you!-2020-10-14T12:56:00.000Z"><span id="A_Dobos_torte_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_Dobos_torte_for_you!-2020-10-14T12:56:00.000Z"></span>A <a href="/wiki/Dobos_torte" title="Dobos torte">Dobos torte</a> for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_Dobos_torte_for_you!-2020-10-14T12:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gleeanon409&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: A Dobos torte for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-7&6=thirteen-2020-10-14T12:56:00.000Z-A_Dobos_torte_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Dobos_cake_(Gerbeaud_Confectionery_Budapest_Hungary).jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Dobos_cake_%28Gerbeaud_Confectionery_Budapest_Hungary%29.jpg/120px-Dobos_cake_%28Gerbeaud_Confectionery_Budapest_Hungary%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="120" height="80" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Dobos_cake_%28Gerbeaud_Confectionery_Budapest_Hungary%29.jpg/180px-Dobos_cake_%28Gerbeaud_Confectionery_Budapest_Hungary%29.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Dobos_cake_%28Gerbeaud_Confectionery_Budapest_Hungary%29.jpg/240px-Dobos_cake_%28Gerbeaud_Confectionery_Budapest_Hungary%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1280" data-file-height="853"/></a></span> </td> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;"><span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml"><a href="/wiki/User:7%266%3Dthirteen" title="User:7&6=thirteen"><b style="color:#060">7&6=thirteen</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:7%266%3Dthirteen" title="User talk:7&6=thirteen"><b style="color:#000">☎</b></a>)</span> has given you a <a href="/wiki/Dobos_torte" title="Dobos torte">Dobos torte</a> to enjoy! Seven layers of fun because you deserve it. <p><br/> </p><p>To give a Dobos torte and spread the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiLove" title="Wikipedia:WikiLove">WikiLove</a>, just place {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Dobos_Torte" title="Template:Dobos Torte">subst:Dobos Torte</a>}} on someone else's talkpage, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. </p> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml"><a href="/wiki/User:7%266%3Dthirteen" title="User:7&6=thirteen"><b style="color:#060">7&6=thirteen</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:7%266%3Dthirteen" title="User talk:7&6=thirteen"><b style="color:#000">☎</b></a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-7&6=thirteen-2020-10-14T12:56:00.000Z-A_Dobos_torte_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:56, 14 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-7&6=thirteen-2020-10-14T12:56:00.000Z-A_Dobos_torte_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-7&6=thirteen-2020-10-14T12:56:00.000Z-A_Dobos_torte_for_you!"></span> </p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2020-10-14T13:04:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2020-10-14T12:56:00.000Z"></span>Well Thank you! I was just headed to your page ... <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 12px red; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409"><span style="color:orange">Glee</span></a><sup><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: magenta">anon</span></a></sup></b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2020-10-14T13:04:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2020-10-14T12:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:04, 14 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2020-10-14T13:04:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2020-10-14T12:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2020-10-14T13:04:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2020-10-14T12:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Pink_Loerie_Mardi_Gras_and_Arts_Festival" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Pink_Loerie_Mardi_Gras_and_Arts_Festival-2020-10-18T00:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Pink_Loerie_Mardi_Gras_and_Arts_Festival-2020-10-18T00:02:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Pink Loerie Mardi Gras and Arts Festival<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Pink_Loerie_Mardi_Gras_and_Arts_Festival-2020-10-18T00:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gleeanon409&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: DYK for Pink Loerie Mardi Gras and Arts Festival"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cwmhiraeth-2020-10-18T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Pink_Loerie_Mardi_Gras_and_Arts_Festival"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256334245">.mw-parser-output .ivmbox{margin-bottom:1em;border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,#fdf2d5);padding:0.5em;display:flex;align-items:center}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .ivmbox[style*="background"]{background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,ivory)!important;color:inherit}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .ivmbox[style*="background"]{background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,ivory)!important;color:inherit}}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-image{padding-left:1px;padding-right:0.5em;max-width:100px;flex:1 0 25px}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text{padding:0.5em 0}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text>:first-child{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text>:last-child{margin-bottom:0}</style><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions#18_October_2020" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions">18 October 2020</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Pink_Loerie_Mardi_Gras_and_Arts_Festival" title="Pink Loerie Mardi Gras and Arts Festival">Pink Loerie Mardi Gras and Arts Festival</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that the <b><a href="/wiki/Pink_Loerie_Mardi_Gras_and_Arts_Festival" title="Pink Loerie Mardi Gras and Arts Festival">Pink Loerie Mardi Gras and Arts Festival</a></b> celebrates LGBTQ culture with <a href="/wiki/Wigstock" title="Wigstock">Wigstock</a> events for <a href="/wiki/Drag_queen" title="Drag queen">drag queens</a>, a <a href="/wiki/Bear_(gay_culture)" title="Bear (gay culture)">bear</a> fest, athletic events, and an art festival?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Pink_Loerie_Mardi_Gras_and_Arts_Festival" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Pink Loerie Mardi Gras and Arts Festival">Template:Did you know nominations/Pink Loerie Mardi Gras and Arts Festival</a>. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2020-10-08&end=2020-10-28&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Pink_Loerie_Mardi_Gras_and_Arts_Festival">Pink Loerie Mardi Gras and Arts Festival</a>)</small>, and it may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a> if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Cwmhiraeth" title="User:Cwmhiraeth">Cwmhiraeth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cwmhiraeth" title="User talk:Cwmhiraeth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Cwmhiraeth-2020-10-18T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Pink_Loerie_Mardi_Gras_and_Arts_Festival" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:02, 18 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cwmhiraeth-2020-10-18T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Pink_Loerie_Mardi_Gras_and_Arts_Festival"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cwmhiraeth-2020-10-18T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Pink_Loerie_Mardi_Gras_and_Arts_Festival"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thank_you" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thank_you-2020-10-18T16:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thank_you-2020-10-18T16:49:00.000Z"></span>Thank you<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thank_you-2020-10-18T16:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gleeanon409&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Thank you"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Right_cite-2020-10-18T16:49:00.000Z-Thank_you"></span>Thank you, very much, for your comments <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Casey_Calvert_(actress)_(2nd_nomination)&diff=984165062&oldid=984153744">here</a> about tone and casting aspersions. You are working to help improve the civility of the community. Thanks again, <a href="/wiki/User:Right_cite" title="User:Right cite">Right cite</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Right_cite" title="User talk:Right cite">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Right_cite-2020-10-18T16:49:00.000Z-Thank_you" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:49, 18 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Right_cite-2020-10-18T16:49:00.000Z-Thank_you"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Right_cite-2020-10-18T16:49:00.000Z-Thank_you"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2020-10-18T16:55:00.000Z-Right_cite-2020-10-18T16:49:00.000Z"></span>You’re welcome! We’re all volunteers here trying to share knowledge, we can disagree without being disagreeable. <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 12px deeppink; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409"><span style="color:orange">Glee</span></a><sup><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: magenta">anon</span></a></sup></b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2020-10-18T16:55:00.000Z-Right_cite-2020-10-18T16:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:55, 18 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2020-10-18T16:55:00.000Z-Right_cite-2020-10-18T16:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2020-10-18T16:55:00.000Z-Right_cite-2020-10-18T16:49:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Right_cite-2020-10-18T16:57:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-10-18T16:55:00.000Z"></span>Agreed. I wish more editors behaved the way you do! <a href="/wiki/User:Right_cite" title="User:Right cite">Right cite</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Right_cite" title="User talk:Right cite">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Right_cite-2020-10-18T16:57:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-10-18T16:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:57, 18 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Right_cite-2020-10-18T16:57:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-10-18T16:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Right_cite-2020-10-18T16:57:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2020-10-18T16:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="A_barnstar_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-Thank_you-2020-10-21T18:57:00.000Z"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-Thank_you-2020-10-21T18:57:00.000Z"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-Thank_you-2020-10-21T18:57:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gleeanon409&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: A barnstar for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Right_cite-2020-10-21T18:57:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Civility_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Civility_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Civility_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Civility_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Civility_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Civility_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Civility_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Civility Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Thank you very much for your attempts to improve tone and civility on Wikipedia! You are valued! <a href="/wiki/User:Right_cite" title="User:Right cite">Right cite</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Right_cite" title="User talk:Right cite">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Right_cite-2020-10-21T18:57:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:57, 21 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Right_cite-2020-10-21T18:57:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Right_cite-2020-10-21T18:57:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2020-10-21T19:55:00.000Z-Right_cite-2020-10-21T18:57:00.000Z"></span>Wow! Thank you! 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If you think this affects you and you need help you can <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268498" class="extiw" title="phab:T268498">post on Phabricator</a> or on <a href="https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:News/Wiki_Replicas_2020_Redesign" class="extiw" title="wikitech:Talk:News/Wiki Replicas 2020 Redesign">Wikitech</a>. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/News/Wiki_Replicas_2020_Redesign">[11]</a></li></ul> <p><i><b><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News">Tech news</a></b> prepared by <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers">Tech News writers</a> and posted by <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery">bot</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News">Contribute</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/49" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/49">Translate</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech" class="extiw" title="m:Tech">Get help</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tech/News" class="extiw" title="m:Talk:Tech/News">Give feedback</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors" class="extiw" title="m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors">Subscribe or unsubscribe</a>.</i> </p> </div></div><p> 17:43, 30 November 2020 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tech_News:_2020-50" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tech_News:_2020-50"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tech_News:_2020-50"></span><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/50" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/50">Tech News: 2020-50</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tech_News:_2020-50"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gleeanon409&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Tech News: 2020-50"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"><div class="plainlinks"> <p>Latest <b><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News">tech news</a></b> from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/50" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/50">Translations</a> are available. </p><p><b>Recent changes</b> </p> <ul><li>You can now put pages on your watchlist for a limited period of time. Some wikis already had this function. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech/Watchlist_Expiry">[12]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Watchlist_expiry">[13]</a></li></ul> <p><b>Changes later this week</b> </p> <ul><li>Information from Wikidata that is used on a wiki page can be shown in recent changes and watchlists on a Wikimedia wiki. To see this you need to turn on showing Wikidata edits in your watchlist in the preferences. Changes to the Wikidata description in the language of a Wikimedia wiki will then be shown in recent changes and watchlists. This will not show edits to languages that are not relevant to your wiki. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata/2020-November/014402.html">[14]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191831">[15]</a></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Recurrent item"><img alt="Recurrent item" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Octicons-sync.svg/12px-Octicons-sync.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Octicons-sync.svg/18px-Octicons-sync.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Octicons-sync.svg/24px-Octicons-sync.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="768" data-file-height="1024"/></span></span> The <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.36/wmf.21" class="extiw" title="mw:MediaWiki 1.36/wmf.21">new version</a> of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 December. It will be on all wikis from 10 December (<a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.36/Roadmap" class="extiw" title="mw:MediaWiki 1.36/Roadmap">calendar</a>).</li></ul> <p><b>Future changes</b> </p> <ul><li>You can vote on proposals in the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2021" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist Survey 2021">Community Wishlist Survey</a> between 8 December and 21 December. The survey decides what the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech" class="extiw" title="m:Community Tech">Community Tech team</a> will work on.</li></ul> <p><i><b><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News">Tech news</a></b> prepared by <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers">Tech News writers</a> and posted by <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery">bot</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News">Contribute</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/50" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/50">Translate</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech" class="extiw" title="m:Tech">Get help</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tech/News" class="extiw" title="m:Talk:Tech/News">Give feedback</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors" class="extiw" title="m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors">Subscribe or unsubscribe</a>.</i> </p> </div></div><p> 16:14, 7 December 2020 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Gun_serial_number" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Gun_serial_number-2020-12-08T00:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Gun_serial_number-2020-12-08T00:02:00.000Z"></span>DYK for Gun serial number<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Gun_serial_number-2020-12-08T00:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gleeanon409&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: DYK for Gun serial number"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cwmhiraeth-2020-12-08T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Gun_serial_number"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2020/December#8_December_2020" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/December">8 December 2020</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Gun_serial_number" title="Gun serial number">Gun serial number</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that a <b><a href="/wiki/Gun_serial_number" title="Gun serial number">gun serial number</a></b> can be any random set of numbers letters or a character string?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Gun_serial_number" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Gun serial number">Template:Did you know nominations/Gun serial number</a>. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="//pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2020-11-28&end=2020-12-18&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Gun_serial_number">Gun serial number</a>)</small>, and it may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics">the statistics page</a> if it received over 400 views per hour. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Cwmhiraeth" title="User:Cwmhiraeth">Cwmhiraeth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cwmhiraeth" title="User talk:Cwmhiraeth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Cwmhiraeth-2020-12-08T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Gun_serial_number" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:02, 8 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cwmhiraeth-2020-12-08T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Gun_serial_number"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cwmhiraeth-2020-12-08T00:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Gun_serial_number"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tech_News:_2020-51" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tech_News:_2020-51"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tech_News:_2020-51"></span><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/51" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/51">Tech News: 2020-51</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tech_News:_2020-51"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gleeanon409&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Tech News: 2020-51"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"><div class="plainlinks"> <p>Latest <b><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News">tech news</a></b> from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/51" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/51">Translations</a> are available. </p><p><b>Recent changes</b> </p> <ul><li>There is a <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia_for_KaiOS" class="extiw" title="mw:Wikipedia for KaiOS">Wikipedia app</a> for <a href="/wiki/KaiOS" title="KaiOS">KaiOS</a> phones. It was released in India in September. It can now be downloaded in other countries too. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://diff.wikimedia.org/2020/12/10/growing-wikipedias-reach-with-an-app-for-kaios-feature-phones/">[16]</a></li></ul> <p><b>Changes later this week</b> </p> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Recurrent item"><img alt="Recurrent item" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Octicons-sync.svg/12px-Octicons-sync.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Octicons-sync.svg/18px-Octicons-sync.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Octicons-sync.svg/24px-Octicons-sync.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="768" data-file-height="1024"/></span></span> The <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.36/wmf.22" class="extiw" title="mw:MediaWiki 1.36/wmf.22">new version</a> of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 December. It will be on all wikis from 17 December (<a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.36/Roadmap" class="extiw" title="mw:MediaWiki 1.36/Roadmap">calendar</a>).</li></ul> <p><i><b><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News">Tech news</a></b> prepared by <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers">Tech News writers</a> and posted by <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery">bot</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News">Contribute</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/51" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/51">Translate</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech" class="extiw" title="m:Tech">Get help</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tech/News" class="extiw" title="m:Talk:Tech/News">Give feedback</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors" class="extiw" title="m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors">Subscribe or unsubscribe</a>.</i> </p> </div></div><p> 21:33, 14 December 2020 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tech_News:_2020-52" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tech_News:_2020-52"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tech_News:_2020-52"></span><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/52" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/52">Tech News: 2020-52</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tech_News:_2020-52"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gleeanon409&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Tech News: 2020-52"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"><div class="plainlinks"> <p>Latest <b><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News">tech news</a></b> from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/52" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/52">Translations</a> are available. </p><p><b>Tech News</b> </p> <ul><li>Because of the <a href="/wiki/Christmas_and_holiday_season" title="Christmas and holiday season">holidays</a> the next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 11 January 2021.</li></ul> <p><b>Recent changes</b> </p> <ul><li>The <code>{{citation needed}}</code> template shows when a statement in a Wikipedia article needs a source. If you click on it when you edit with the visual editor there is a popup that explains this. Now it can also show the reason and when it was added. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T270107">[17]</a></li></ul> <p><b>Changes later this week</b> </p> <ul><li>There is no new MediaWiki version this week or next week.</li></ul> <p><b>Future changes</b> </p> <ul><li>You can <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Geoinformation/Ideas" class="extiw" title="m:WMDE Technical Wishes/Geoinformation/Ideas">propose and discuss</a> what technical improvements should be done for geographic information. This could be coordinates, maps or other related things.</li> <li>Some wikis use <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Writing_systems/LanguageConverter" class="extiw" title="mw:Writing systems/LanguageConverter">LanguageConverter</a> to switch between writing systems or variants of a language. This can only be done for the entire page. 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font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost">Read this Signpost in full</a></b> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Single/2020-12-28" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2020-12-28">Single-page</a> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe">Unsubscribe</a> * <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2020-12-28T04:25:00.000Z-The_Signpost:_28_December_2020" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:25, 28 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2020-12-28T04:25:00.000Z-The_Signpost:_28_December_2020"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2020-12-28T04:25:00.000Z-The_Signpost:_28_December_2020"></span> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="LGBTQ_Nation" data-mw-thread-id="h-LGBTQ_Nation-2021-03-08T00:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-LGBTQ_Nation-2021-03-08T00:10:00.000Z"></span>LGBTQ Nation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-LGBTQ_Nation-2021-03-08T00:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gleeanon409&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: LGBTQ Nation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-03-08T00:10:00.000Z-LGBTQ_Nation"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Mz7" title="User:Mz7">Mz7</a>:</span>, FWIW, I have no intention of socking whatsoever. <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 12px deeppink; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409"><span style="color:orange">Glee</span></a><sup><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: magenta">anon</span></a></sup></b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2021-03-08T00:10:00.000Z-LGBTQ_Nation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:10, 8 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-03-08T00:10:00.000Z-LGBTQ_Nation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2021-03-08T00:10:00.000Z-LGBTQ_Nation"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Heavy_(magazine)"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Heavy_(magazine)"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-2021-03-30T21:29:00.000Z"><span id=".22Heavy_.28magazine.29.22_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Heavy_(magazine)"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-2021-03-30T21:29:00.000Z"></span>"Heavy (magazine)" listed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion">Redirects for discussion</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Heavy_(magazine)"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-2021-03-30T21:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gleeanon409&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: "Heavy (magazine)" listed at Redirects for discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AngusWOOF-2021-03-30T21:29:00.000Z-"Heavy_(magazine)"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a></span> A discussion is taking place to address the redirect <a href="/w/index.php?title=Heavy_(magazine)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Heavy (magazine) (page does not exist)">Heavy (magazine)</a>. The discussion will occur at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2021_March_30#Heavy_(magazine)" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 30">Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 30#Heavy (magazine)</a> until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. <a href="/wiki/User:AngusWOOF" title="User:AngusWOOF"><strong><span style="color: #606060;" class="nowrap">AngusW🐶🐶F</span></strong></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AngusWOOF#top" title="User talk:AngusWOOF"><span style="color: #663300;">bark</span></a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF" title="Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF"><span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-AngusWOOF-2021-03-30T21:29:00.000Z-"Heavy_(magazine)"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:29, 30 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AngusWOOF-2021-03-30T21:29:00.000Z-"Heavy_(magazine)"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AngusWOOF-2021-03-30T21:29:00.000Z-"Heavy_(magazine)"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_email" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_email-2021-09-10T12:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_email-2021-09-10T12:48:00.000Z"></span>Your email<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_email-2021-09-10T12:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gleeanon409&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: Your email"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T12:48:00.000Z-Your_email"></span>Good morning Gleeanon409, I have received your email. In short, I am not the person you need to appeal to; the <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Benjiboi">Benjiboi</a></span> account is banned by community consensus and you would need to request an unban at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AN">the administrators' noticeboard</a>. If you post an unblock request (copy and paste <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Unblock" title="Template:Unblock">unblock</a>|(reason) ~~~~}}</code> (replacing (reason) with your appeal for why you should be unbanned), I or another administrator can copy your appeal to the correct location. <a href="/wiki/User:GeneralNotability" title="User:GeneralNotability">GeneralNotability</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GeneralNotability" title="User talk:GeneralNotability">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T12:48:00.000Z-Your_email" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:48, 10 September 2021 (UTC)</a>. I’m having technical problems using the site but here goes...thank you for your response. I was asking you to take the request to the appropriate board for consideration but as you wish I’ll try here as well.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T12:48:00.000Z-Your_email"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T12:48:00.000Z-Your_email"></span> </p> <div class="user-block unblock-reviewed" style="padding: 5px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; border: 1px solid #a9a9a9; background-color: var(--background-color-warning-subtle, #fdf2d5); color: inherit;"> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T13:12:00.000Z-Your_email"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Appointment_red.svg/48px-Appointment_red.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="48" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Appointment_red.svg/72px-Appointment_red.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Appointment_red.svg/96px-Appointment_red.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <b>This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators" title="Wikipedia:Administrators">administrator</a>, who declined the request.</b> Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy" title="Wikipedia:Blocking policy">blocking policy</a>). <p><a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> <span class="plainlinks" style="font-size:88%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Gleeanon409">block log</a> • <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:BlockList&action=search&ip=Gleeanon409">active blocks</a> • <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:GlobalBlockList&ip=Gleeanon409">global blocks</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Gleeanon409" title="Special:Contributions/Gleeanon409">contribs</a><span class="sysop-show"> • <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/Gleeanon409" title="Special:DeletedContributions/Gleeanon409">deleted contribs</a></span> • <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchUser=Gleeanon409">filter log</a> • <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=newusers&user=Gleeanon409">creation log</a><span class="sysop-show"> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/Gleeanon409" title="Special:Block/Gleeanon409">change block settings</a> • <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:BlockList&action=unblock&ip=Gleeanon409">unblock</a></span><span class="checkuser-show"> • <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUser&user=Gleeanon409&reason=%5B%5BUser+talk%3AGleeanon409%5D%5D%2C+unblock+request">checkuser</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CheckUserLog&cuSearch=Gleeanon409">log</a>)</span>)</span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <hr/> <p><b>Request reason</b>: </p> <div style="margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 2em;"> <p>As is seen at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Benjiboi/Archive" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Benjiboi/Archive">Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Benjiboi/Archive</a> I have had a checkered history. How people conduct themselves with other editors has improved over the years but back then (2006) I was out and gay and had more than my share of negative attention both on and off wiki from other editors. I was also active with the Rescue Squad which put me squarely in the crosshairs of the perennial deletionist/inclusionist issues. I was new to social media so didn’t handle the constant abuse well, I felt I was targeted and attacked, on and off wiki. Suffice it to say I eventually reacted very poorly and by late 2010 made up a ton of socks which ended up causing headaches to others, it was obvious the attacks would continue and there was an organized offsite effort. I certainly shouldn’t have, and I wish I would have known or considered any better options. I saw zero future for me with a project I loved, and saw zero options but the poor ones I chose. Until 2021 I either didn’t know or realize a standard offer existed. In 2019 I tried to make what I thought was a clean start but was sleuthed out by editors who are into such things. I regret that they also made bad faith accusations as a pillar of the report alleging that I have any support for child rape, I certainly do not, but I’ve learned anyone canu say anything on the internet without consequences. Generally I think my Gleeanon409 account shows that I support insisting on reliable sources and building consensus when disagreements arise. It can take longer but the results last longer as well. I’d like to resume with the Gleeanon409 account with the community’s permission. I’d appreciate if you could take this request to whatever board is appropriate for consideration. p.s. I did try editing a bit on other wiki projects but I didn’t find it to be a good experience. <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 12px deeppink; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409"><span style="color:orange">Glee</span></a><sup><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: magenta">anon</span></a></sup></b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T13:12:00.000Z-Your_email" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:12, 10 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T13:12:00.000Z-Your_email"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T13:12:00.000Z-Your_email"></span> </p> </div> <p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RickinBaltimore-2021-09-13T12:28:00.000Z-Your_email"></span>Decline reason</b>: </p> <div style="margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 2em;"> <p>Per the discussion at AN, your request to have your CBAN lifted was denied. <a href="/wiki/User:RickinBaltimore" title="User:RickinBaltimore">RickinBaltimore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RickinBaltimore" title="User talk:RickinBaltimore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-RickinBaltimore-2021-09-13T12:28:00.000Z-Your_email" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:28, 13 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RickinBaltimore-2021-09-13T12:28:00.000Z-Your_email"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RickinBaltimore-2021-09-13T12:28:00.000Z-Your_email"></span> </p> </div> <hr/> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z-Your_email"></span>If you want to make any further unblock requests, please <b>read the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Guide_to_appealing_blocks" title="Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks">guide to appealing blocks</a> first</b>, then use the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Unblock" title="Template:Unblock">unblock</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. <b>Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.</b> </p> </div> <p>Checkuser note: I see <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Symbol_possible_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_possible_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Symbol_possible_vote.svg/24px-Symbol_possible_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Symbol_possible_vote.svg/32px-Symbol_possible_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Possible</b> sockpuppetry here, on 2021-06-12 and 2021-08-29 and have concerns more broadly. I want to be incredibly clear, though, this is possible rather than likely. Another checkuser should weigh in here as the technical specifics make this a bit more tricky than normal to render an opinion. --<a href="/wiki/User:Yamla" title="User:Yamla">Yamla</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yamla" title="User talk:Yamla">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z-Your_email" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:37, 10 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z-Your_email"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z-Your_email"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jpgordon"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yamla-2021-09-10T14:30:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"></span>Jpgordon</a></span> looked into this and we discussed it. Our consensus is that the edits on those dates are <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_unrelated.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Red X" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Symbol_unrelated.svg/18px-Symbol_unrelated.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="19" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Symbol_unrelated.svg/27px-Symbol_unrelated.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Symbol_unrelated.svg/36px-Symbol_unrelated.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span><b> Unrelated</b> and so from a checkuser point of view, there's no evidence of recent sockpuppetry or block evasion here. --<a href="/wiki/User:Yamla" title="User:Yamla">Yamla</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yamla" title="User talk:Yamla">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Yamla-2021-09-10T14:30:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:30, 10 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yamla-2021-09-10T14:30:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yamla-2021-09-10T14:30:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T14:41:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T14:30:00.000Z"></span>Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Yamla" title="User:Yamla">Yamla</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Jpgordon" title="User:Jpgordon">Jpgordon</a>, appreciate that. I will post the appeal to AN. Gleeanon: I recommend that you watch that discussion; if you have specific comments to make you may make them here and ask that they be copied to the discussion. <a href="/wiki/User:GeneralNotability" title="User:GeneralNotability">GeneralNotability</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GeneralNotability" title="User talk:GeneralNotability">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T14:41:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T14:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:41, 10 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T14:41:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T14:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T14:41:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T14:30:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T14:43:00.000Z-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T14:41:00.000Z"></span>(And for what it's worth, I know your email asked me to copy the request where appropriate from the start; but for the sake of transparency I prefer that that kind of request be made in public rather than by email) <a href="/wiki/User:GeneralNotability" title="User:GeneralNotability">GeneralNotability</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GeneralNotability" title="User talk:GeneralNotability">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T14:43:00.000Z-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T14:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:43, 10 September 2021 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T14:43:00.000Z-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T14:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T14:43:00.000Z-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T14:41:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T16:26:00.000Z-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T14:43:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GeneralNotability" title="User:GeneralNotability">GeneralNotability</a>:</span>, thank you for your help in all this, I’ll try to keep up. <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 12px deeppink; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409"><span style="color:orange">Glee</span></a><sup><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: magenta">anon</span></a></sup></b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T16:26:00.000Z-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T14:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 10 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T16:26:00.000Z-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T14:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T16:26:00.000Z-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T14:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-11T00:12:00.000Z-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T14:43:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GeneralNotability" title="User:GeneralNotability">GeneralNotability</a>:</span>, I’d appreciate if someone could move my comments to the discussion. <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 12px deeppink; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409"><span style="color:orange">Glee</span></a><sup><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: magenta">anon</span></a></sup></b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-11T00:12:00.000Z-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T14:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:12, 11 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-11T00:12:00.000Z-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T14:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-11T00:12:00.000Z-GeneralNotability-2021-09-10T14:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T16:26:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Floquenbeam" title="User:Floquenbeam">Floquenbeam</a>:</span>, I gave up and did some reflecting on my poor actions, after 2014 I turned my energies into other personal projects. Since 2014 I’ve only had the Gleeanon409 account and used it on Simplewiki, and wikidictionary. I had technical issues interfacing with them as a newly user in particular. I quickly realized it would just be a gap experience for me if I stayed as article building and improving is what I prefer. <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 12px deeppink; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409"><span style="color:orange">Glee</span></a><sup><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: magenta">anon</span></a></sup></b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T16:26:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 10 September 2021 (UTC)</a>UTC)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T16:26:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T16:26:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T18:33:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:S_Marshall" title="User:S Marshall">S Marshall</a>:</span> and <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a>:</span>, if the community wants restrictions placed then I’ll of course abide. I do want to ask to consider more some of those areas: not accusing — yes, I can invite more eyes on any situation, accusations were leveled at me and I certainly didn’t like it; AFD/DRV — sure, this is often a contentious area and I can live without the grief, holding off on ARS at the same time; proxying — of course not; not editing LGBTQ BLPs — this is my area of expertise, however if it helps rebuild some of the trust I’ve damaged I’ll certainly cooperate with a carve out for reverting vandalism if that’s acceptable. <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 12px deeppink; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409"><span style="color:orange">Glee</span></a><sup><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: magenta">anon</span></a></sup></b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T18:33:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:33, 10 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T18:33:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T18:33:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoodDay-2021-09-10T20:52:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T18:33:00.000Z"></span>Reckon accepting said topic-ban(s) is your only way to being unbanned from the 'pedia. That & no socking. <a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-GoodDay-2021-09-10T20:52:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T18:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:52, 10 September 2021 (UTC)</a> UTC)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoodDay-2021-09-10T20:52:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T18:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoodDay-2021-09-10T20:52:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T18:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T21:28:00.000Z-GoodDay-2021-09-10T20:52:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a>:</span>, I need to mend the damage I’ve done and earn trust again. Plus S Marshall’s insight how combative I was is humbling. Life’s too short to be fighting. <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 12px deeppink; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409"><span style="color:orange">Glee</span></a><sup><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: magenta">anon</span></a></sup></b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T21:28:00.000Z-GoodDay-2021-09-10T20:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:28, 10 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T21:28:00.000Z-GoodDay-2021-09-10T20:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T21:28:00.000Z-GoodDay-2021-09-10T20:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoodDay-2021-09-10T21:31:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T21:28:00.000Z"></span>Cool. <a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-GoodDay-2021-09-10T21:31:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T21:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:31, 10 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoodDay-2021-09-10T21:31:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T21:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoodDay-2021-09-10T21:31:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T21:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T20:41:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Grandpallama" title="User:Grandpallama">Grandpallama</a>:</span>, I’m not blaming anyone for reporting banned users. I screwed up and deserved the ban. They were simply doing their duty. I will defend myself in being squarely against child rape. <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 12px deeppink; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409"><span style="color:orange">Glee</span></a><sup><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: magenta">anon</span></a></sup></b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T20:41:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:41, 10 September 2021 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T20:41:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T20:41:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <p><br/> </p> <ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T22:28:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Bison_X" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Bison X">Bison X</a>:</span>, all fair points, in trying to keep it brief and provide some explanation I definitely left out most of the context. The banning was because I was sockpuppeting. The reasons behind my decision to do so are less important than the disruption I caused. A big part of this has been my combative attitude which I have to keep in check, and just take breaks if things get heated or personal.</li></ul> <dl><dd>“more than my share of negative attention both on and off wiki” in retrospect some of it was certainly because I was openly LGBTQ and focused editing on those subjects. I was also too invested in preserving content in that topic area and saw things through a filter of always being in crisis, moving from one article under “attack” to the next. It wasn’t healthy and turned other editors off. I have to learn to extend good faith that others mean the best.</dd> <dd>Coupled with this was the very battleground of deletionists vs inclusionists. I helped build up the Article Rescue Squad and had to learn to dial down my bad faith assumptions there as well.</dd> <dd>Then the brewing issue of Paid Editing came up and I sympathized with those who may truly need a job, I tried to build some guidelines to help move things forward but my actions were interpreted that I must have been paid myself, I wasn’t but also felt I didn’t have to deny it. So on all fronts I had objectivity flaws and people that found my style problematic at least.</dd> <dd>There was at least one website dedicated to “fixing” Wikipedia which lampooned me. The griefing was near constant by then, or it sure felt that way. I saw threats everywhere even if none existed in that moment. I also think there’s never a need to hound or grief or harass other editors even if you feel they deserve it. I felt lower than dirt and some assumed I was already socking before I had ever even created one. I figured my time was short. I mention it because it was taking the Wikipedia battleground and extending it into my real life.</dd> <dd>“but was sleuthed out by editors who are into such things”, yeah I could have phrased that better. In fairness I think there are some dedicated editors attuned to anything dealing with child rape, and I caught their attention even if I wasn’t a high priority to them. There is a decades-old slur against LGBTQ people that we aim to sexually abuse children so I found a bunch of incendiary unsourced POV content and removed it as such. That was among the evidence that I was in some way okay with child rape. I’m not and never have been. <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 12px deeppink; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409"><span style="color:orange">Glee</span></a><sup><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: magenta">anon</span></a></sup></b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T22:28:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:28, 10 September 2021 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T22:28:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-10T22:28:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-11T21:25:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:S_Marshall" title="User:S Marshall">S Marshall</a>:</span>, I have no interest or intention of editing here unless the community allows it. I walked away in 2014 and realized that using multiple accounts was simply abusive and I didn’t want to be a part of that at all. In 2019 I tried with a fresh account making productive contributions and was soon caught anyway. I took almost a year off and learned about the standard offer. I’m hoping now to resume that account with whatever appropriate restrictions. If the community decides not now then I’ll simply continue to hold off until they allow me to return. <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 12px deeppink; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409"><span style="color:orange">Glee</span></a><sup><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: magenta">anon</span></a></sup></b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-11T21:25:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:25, 11 September 2021 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-11T21:25:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-11T21:25:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-12T01:01:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Grandpallama" title="User:Grandpallama">Grandpallama</a>:</span>, this is the only way I can communicate so apologies in advance for the hassle. You are correct that “child rape” is not the common Wikipedia term, it’s at the heart of many abuse survivors terminology because that’s a big part of what pedos do. My defense of Haiduc, years ago, was an appeal to treat them civilly, and pre-dated them being banned for pedo-promotion including false sourcing. Another charge was that I defended the most notorious pedo organization in history, I don’t however it is a fact some of their founding members were homeless teenage sex-workers and the group had early support as it included supporting legal rights for those youth. Support evaporated when pedos demanded everyone abolish all age of consent laws. Along the same lines has been my effort to get Hay’s bio to be NPOV. He was an emancipated teenager when he seduced an older man, and later recalled this many times as a positive experience. It’s a type of pederasty but is presented so POV that all nuance is lost. So child sexual abuse/pedo* is what is alleged I in some way supported. I am against all child abuse, sexual or otherwise. <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 12px deeppink; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409"><span style="color:orange">Glee</span></a><sup><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: magenta">anon</span></a></sup></b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-12T01:01:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:01, 12 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-12T01:01:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-12T01:01:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-13T10:21:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Wham2001" title="User:Wham2001">Wham2001</a>:</span>, I was assured at the Reference Desk that it was a reliable source, and I only suggested it might be useful to that article. I fully left it for editors there to use it if they saw fit, and didn’t push any content or other ideas when they didn’t. As for the Desmond is Amazing article several editors double-checked everything in the article, and we worked on consensus to make changes. And you are mistaken on the sourcing, none of it was against policy, and nearly none were from primary sources. <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 12px deeppink; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409"><span style="color:orange">Glee</span></a><sup><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: magenta">anon</span></a></sup></b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-13T10:21:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:21, 13 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-13T10:21:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-13T10:21:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-13T10:21:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z-1"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:CorbieVreccan" title="User:CorbieVreccan">CorbieVreccan</a>:</span>, yes my behavior was horrible way too often, I apologize for not assuming good faith and trying to more collegially build consensus. It had been many years since I edited and I was too quick to be combative. I still think the Hay article violates NPOV, and relies on content from NAMBLA itself, but that will have to stay that way I guess. As for the Desmond is Amazing article I was steadfast that any content had to be reliably sourced. In hindsight I wish I would have disengaged quicker and waited for more people to get involved. <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 12px deeppink; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409"><span style="color:orange">Glee</span></a><sup><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: magenta">anon</span></a></sup></b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-13T10:21:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:21, 13 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-13T10:21:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-13T10:21:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z-1"></span></li> <li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-13T10:21:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z-2"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GeneralNotability" title="User:GeneralNotability">GeneralNotability</a>:</span>, you mentioned my comments could be copied over to the discussion. Can that please still happen? Or how should I request that be done? <span style="box-shadow: 0px 0px 12px deeppink; background-color: black; padding: 3px; color: white"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409"><span style="color:orange">Glee</span></a><sup><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: magenta">anon</span></a></sup></b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409#c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-13T10:21:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:21, 13 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-13T10:21:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z-2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2021-09-13T10:21:00.000Z-Yamla-2021-09-10T13:37:00.000Z-2"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Jason_Bolden" data-mw-thread-id="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Jason_Bolden-20230315213700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Jason_Bolden-20230315213700"></span>Speedy deletion nomination of Jason Bolden<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Jason_Bolden-20230315213700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gleeanon409&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: Speedy deletion nomination of Jason Bolden"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_B123-20230315213700-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Jason_Bolden"></span>Hello Gleeanon409, </p><p>I wanted to let you know that I just tagged <a href="/wiki/Jason_Bolden" title="Jason Bolden">Jason Bolden</a> for deletion, because it seems to be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Promotion" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Promotion">promotional</a>, rather than an encyclopedia article. </p><p>If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can <span class="plainlinks"><b><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AJason+Bolden&action=edit&section=new&preload=Template:Hangon_preload&preloadtitle=This+page+should+not+be+speedy+deleted+because...+">contest this deletion</a></b></span>, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top. </p><p>You can leave a note on <a href="/wiki/User_talk:John_B123" title="User talk:John B123">my talk page</a> if you have questions. 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