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class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Geografie_van_Ierland" data-mw-thread-id="h-Geografie_van_Ierland-2009-08-31T23:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Geografie_van_Ierland-2009-08-31T23:42:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Geografie_van_Ierland" title="Geografie van Ierland">Geografie van Ierland</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Geografie_van_Ierland-2009-08-31T23:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89&action=edit&section=1" title="De broncode bewerken van de sectie: Geografie van Ierland"><span>brontekst bewerken</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Laatste bericht: <a href="#c-Keffertje08-2009-09-02T21:05:00.000Z-Tjako-2009-08-31T23:42:00.000Z">15 jaar geleden</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 berichten</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 personen in overleg</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tjako-2009-08-31T23:42:00.000Z-Geografie_van_Ierland"></span>Hoi Keffertje, leuk dat je wat schreef over <a href="/wiki/Geografie_van_Ierland" title="Geografie van Ierland">Geografie van Ierland</a>, maar ik denk dat die informatie beter in het lemma <a href="/wiki/Ierland" class="mw-disambig" title="Ierland">Ierland</a> zelf kan staan, en ook nog wel erg summier over de geografie zelf gaat. Ik heb het artikel dus ter beoordeling op de <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Te_verwijderen_pagina%27s/Toegevoegd_20090901" title="Wikipedia:Te verwijderen pagina's/Toegevoegd 20090901">Lijst van lemma's die 2 weken besproken worden</a> gezet, zodat ook anderen hun mening erover kunnen geven. Groet, en veel plezier verder op Wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Tjako" title="Gebruiker:Tjako">Tjak</a><small><a href="/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Tjako" title="Overleg gebruiker:Tjako">O</a> </small> <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89#c-Tjako-2009-08-31T23:42:00.000Z-Geografie_van_Ierland" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">1 sep 2009 01:42 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tjako-2009-08-31T23:42:00.000Z-Geografie_van_Ierland"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tjako-2009-08-31T23:42:00.000Z-Geografie_van_Ierland"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tjako-2009-09-02T19:43:00.000Z-Tjako-2009-08-31T23:42:00.000Z"></span>Update-je: je bent goed bezig bij Ierland's geo! Ik denk dat het artikel zo wel prima kan overleven als zelfstandig lemma, en zal dit bij de nominatie even vermelden. Compliment! groet, <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Tjako" title="Gebruiker:Tjako">Tjak</a><small><a href="/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Tjako" title="Overleg gebruiker:Tjako">O</a> </small> <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89#c-Tjako-2009-09-02T19:43:00.000Z-Tjako-2009-08-31T23:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2 sep 2009 21:43 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tjako-2009-09-02T19:43:00.000Z-Tjako-2009-08-31T23:42:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tjako-2009-09-02T19:43:00.000Z-Tjako-2009-08-31T23:42:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Keffertje08-2009-09-02T21:05:00.000Z-Tjako-2009-08-31T23:42:00.000Z"></span>Bedankt (<a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Keffertje08" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruiker:Keffertje08">Keffertje08</a> <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89#c-Keffertje08-2009-09-02T21:05:00.000Z-Tjako-2009-08-31T23:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2 sep 2009 23:05 (CEST)</a>)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Keffertje08-2009-09-02T21:05:00.000Z-Tjako-2009-08-31T23:42:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Keffertje08-2009-09-02T21:05:00.000Z-Tjako-2009-08-31T23:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Holyrood" data-mw-thread-id="h-Holyrood-2009-09-02T00:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Holyrood-2009-09-02T00:35:00.000Z"></span>Holyrood<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Holyrood-2009-09-02T00:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89&action=edit&section=2" title="De broncode bewerken van de sectie: Holyrood"><span>brontekst bewerken</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Laatste bericht: <a href="#c-Advance-2009-09-02T00:35:00.000Z-Holyrood">15 jaar geleden</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 bericht</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 persoon in overleg</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Advance-2009-09-02T00:35:00.000Z-Holyrood"></span>Dag Keffertje, ik was verrast door je artikel, omdat ik het onderwerp zelf in mijn tekstverwerker aan het voorbereiden was. Een merkwaardige samenloop van omstandigheden. Ik heb het een en ander aan het artikel aangepast, omdat ik zie dat je het voornamelijk baseert op de Engelstalige pagina. Het toeval wil dat ik het paleis nog geen week geleden heb bezocht en de info aan die situatie heb aangepast. Groet - <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Advance" title="Gebruiker:Advance">Advance</a> <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89#c-Advance-2009-09-02T00:35:00.000Z-Holyrood" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2 sep 2009 02:35 (CEST)</a> Hey Advance, dat is inderdaad een leuk toeval. Je inbreng in het artikel is zeker een meerwaarde. Ik hoop dat je niet teveel werk voor niets hebt gedaan. Mijn bezoek aan Edinburgh is wel al wat langer geleden, maar ik vond het opvallend dat hierover geen Nederlandstalig artikel bestond. Ik dacht nog artikels over Edinburgh te maken, meer bepaald over het Schotse parlement en andere politieke instellingen.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Advance-2009-09-02T00:35:00.000Z-Holyrood"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Advance-2009-09-02T00:35:00.000Z-Holyrood"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Shine-Dalgarno_sequentie" data-mw-thread-id="h-Shine-Dalgarno_sequentie-2009-09-21T00:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Shine-Dalgarno_sequentie-2009-09-21T00:01:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Shine-Dalgarno_sequentie" class="mw-redirect" title="Shine-Dalgarno sequentie">Shine-Dalgarno sequentie</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Shine-Dalgarno_sequentie-2009-09-21T00:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89&action=edit&section=3" title="De broncode bewerken van de sectie: Shine-Dalgarno sequentie"><span>brontekst bewerken</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Laatste bericht: <a href="#c-Keffertje08-2009-09-21T07:11:00.000Z-Shine-Dalgarno_sequentie">15 jaar geleden</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 berichten</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 personen in overleg</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Advance-2009-09-21T00:01:00.000Z-Shine-Dalgarno_sequentie"></span>Beste Keffertje, dit artikel, dat je voor zover ik kan nagaan hebt vertaald van de Engelstalige Wikipedia, biedt voor de geïnteresseerde leek, waar Wikipedia zich toch op richt, geen enkele begrijpelijke informatie. Wat vooral ontbreekt is een inleiding waarin duidelijk wordt gemaakt over welke tak van wetenschap dit gaat, wat het belang ervan is, en in welk verband het dient te worden geplaatst. Het heeft geen zin om zich over de hoofden van de lezers heen te richten tot experts op dit gebied, die waarschijnlijk toch al weten waar het over gaat. Het feit dat anderstalige Wikipedia's ook zo te werk gaan, is geen reden om zo'n een-op-een-vertaling zonder nadere duiding hier te plaatsen. Graag enige begrijpelijke verheldering in de aanvang van het artikel, voordat dieper op het onderwerp wordt ingegaan. Groet - <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Advance" title="Gebruiker:Advance">Advance</a> <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89#c-Advance-2009-09-21T00:01:00.000Z-Shine-Dalgarno_sequentie" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21 sep 2009 02:01 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Advance-2009-09-21T00:01:00.000Z-Shine-Dalgarno_sequentie"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Advance-2009-09-21T00:01:00.000Z-Shine-Dalgarno_sequentie"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Keffertje08-2009-09-21T07:11:00.000Z-Shine-Dalgarno_sequentie"></span>Ik zal er onmiddellijk werk van maken. Bedankt voor je commentaar. --<a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Keffertje08" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruiker:Keffertje08">Keffertje08</a> <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89#c-Keffertje08-2009-09-21T07:11:00.000Z-Shine-Dalgarno_sequentie" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21 sep 2009 09:11 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Keffertje08-2009-09-21T07:11:00.000Z-Shine-Dalgarno_sequentie"><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Keffertje08-2009-09-21T07:11:00.000Z-Shine-Dalgarno_sequentie"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Vlaggetjes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vlaggetjes-2010-04-19T16:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vlaggetjes-2010-04-19T16:03:00.000Z"></span>Vlaggetjes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vlaggetjes-2010-04-19T16:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89&action=edit&section=4" title="De broncode bewerken van de sectie: Vlaggetjes"><span>brontekst bewerken</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Laatste bericht: <a href="#c-Kalsermar-2010-04-19T22:45:00.000Z-Keffertje08-2010-04-19T18:34:00.000Z">14 jaar geleden</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 berichten</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 personen in overleg</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kalsermar-2010-04-19T16:03:00.000Z-Vlaggetjes"></span>Zou ik je mogen verzoeken niet overal sjabloontjes te plakken die vlaggetjes tonen bij geboorteplaatsen in onfoboxjes. Naast het feit dat ik er het nut niet van inzie gaat het nog vaak fout ook. zo is Marie Curie niet in Polen geboren en was ten tijde van Lyndon Johnson's geboorte de vlag van de VS anders. Met vr. gr. --<a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Kalsermar" title="Gebruiker:Kalsermar">Kalsermar</a> <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89#c-Kalsermar-2010-04-19T16:03:00.000Z-Vlaggetjes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19 apr 2010 18:03 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kalsermar-2010-04-19T16:03:00.000Z-Vlaggetjes"><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kalsermar-2010-04-19T16:03:00.000Z-Vlaggetjes"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Keffertje08-2010-04-19T18:34:00.000Z-Kalsermar-2010-04-19T16:03:00.000Z"></span>Beste Kalsemar, ik zal mijn overenthousiast "vlaggenplaatsen" staken. U heeft gelijk dat het toenmalige Polen in het Russische Rijk lag en dat de toenmalige Amerikaanse vlag slechts 48 sterren had, maar dat had ik niet kunnen afleiden uit de gegevens in de infobox en dergelijke vlaggen zijn moeilijk in te voeren. Voor sommige personen is het misschien wel redundant om die vlaggen erbij te zetten. Ik geloof wel dat de vlaggen een meerwaarde geven aan een infobox in de zin van een aandachtstrekker, want mijn ervaring leert dat die kleine icoontjes onbewust soms meer informatie kunnen overbrengen dan een homogene zee van woorden. In ieder geval mijn excuses aangezien ik nog een relatief nieuw gebruiker ben. --<a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Keffertje08" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruiker:Keffertje08">Keffertje08</a> <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89#c-Keffertje08-2010-04-19T18:34:00.000Z-Kalsermar-2010-04-19T16:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19 apr 2010 20:34 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Keffertje08-2010-04-19T18:34:00.000Z-Kalsermar-2010-04-19T16:03:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Keffertje08-2010-04-19T18:34:00.000Z-Kalsermar-2010-04-19T16:03:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kalsermar-2010-04-19T22:45:00.000Z-Keffertje08-2010-04-19T18:34:00.000Z"></span>Nee joh, excuses zijn helemaal niet nodig. Er is trouwens door mij ook een discussie in de Kroeg hierover begonnen. Met vr. gr. --<a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Kalsermar" title="Gebruiker:Kalsermar">Kalsermar</a> <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89#c-Kalsermar-2010-04-19T22:45:00.000Z-Keffertje08-2010-04-19T18:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20 apr 2010 00:45 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kalsermar-2010-04-19T22:45:00.000Z-Keffertje08-2010-04-19T18:34:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kalsermar-2010-04-19T22:45:00.000Z-Keffertje08-2010-04-19T18:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Verordening_van_het_Noordwesten" data-mw-thread-id="h-Verordening_van_het_Noordwesten-2010-09-24T16:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Verordening_van_het_Noordwesten-2010-09-24T16:45:00.000Z"></span>Verordening van het Noordwesten<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Verordening_van_het_Noordwesten-2010-09-24T16:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89&action=edit&section=5" title="De broncode bewerken van de sectie: Verordening van het Noordwesten"><span>brontekst bewerken</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Laatste bericht: <a href="#c-Eddylandzaat-2010-09-25T18:30:00.000Z-Keffertje08-2010-09-25T12:30:00.000Z">14 jaar geleden</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>4 berichten</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 personen in overleg</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eddylandzaat-2010-09-24T16:45:00.000Z-Verordening_van_het_Noordwesten"></span>Leuk onderwerp. Alleen hik ik een beetje aan tegen de soms twijfelachtige vertalingen. Kun je dat nog eens rustig nalopen? <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Eddylandzaat" title="Gebruiker:Eddylandzaat">Eddy Landzaat</a> <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89#c-Eddylandzaat-2010-09-24T16:45:00.000Z-Verordening_van_het_Noordwesten" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24 sep 2010 18:45 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eddylandzaat-2010-09-24T16:45:00.000Z-Verordening_van_het_Noordwesten"><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eddylandzaat-2010-09-24T16:45:00.000Z-Verordening_van_het_Noordwesten"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kalsermar-2010-09-24T21:30:00.000Z-Eddylandzaat-2010-09-24T16:45:00.000Z"></span>Inderdaad, de vertaling laat te wensen over. Dit is een gevaar als de brontaal niet goed genoeg beheerst wordt. Ik weet niet of dat hier het geval is maar het lijkt er iig wel op. Ik zou bijvoorbeeld absoluut niet weten wat met <i>"(u)iteindelijk nam de hoogdringendheid van de beslechting van de aanspraken van de staten in grote mate toe..."</i> bedoeld wordt! Ik ben het ietsjes aan het opruimen maar mijn Nederlands kan daar wellicht voor tekort schieten dus hulp is welkom.--<a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Kalsermar" title="Gebruiker:Kalsermar">Kalsermar</a> <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89#c-Kalsermar-2010-09-24T21:30:00.000Z-Eddylandzaat-2010-09-24T16:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24 sep 2010 23:30 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kalsermar-2010-09-24T21:30:00.000Z-Eddylandzaat-2010-09-24T16:45:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kalsermar-2010-09-24T21:30:00.000Z-Eddylandzaat-2010-09-24T16:45:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Keffertje08-2010-09-25T12:30:00.000Z-Kalsermar-2010-09-24T21:30:00.000Z"></span>Jullie hebben inderdaad wel gelijk en ben ik waarschijnlijk net iets licht over de taalkundige constructies gegaan. Ik zal er zo dadelijk werk van maken. Engels is mijn "tweede moedertaal", ik moet gewoon een adequatere vertaling bedenken. Bedankt voor jullie opmerkingen.--<a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Keffertje08" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruiker:Keffertje08">Keffertje08</a> <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89#c-Keffertje08-2010-09-25T12:30:00.000Z-Kalsermar-2010-09-24T21:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">25 sep 2010 14:30 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Keffertje08-2010-09-25T12:30:00.000Z-Kalsermar-2010-09-24T21:30:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Keffertje08-2010-09-25T12:30:00.000Z-Kalsermar-2010-09-24T21:30:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eddylandzaat-2010-09-25T18:30:00.000Z-Keffertje08-2010-09-25T12:30:00.000Z"></span>Gewoon effe ordinair nieuwsgierig zijn: hoe heb jij Engels opgepikt als tweede moedertaal? Woonachtig in verre buitenlanden? <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Eddylandzaat" title="Gebruiker:Eddylandzaat">Eddy Landzaat</a> <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89#c-Eddylandzaat-2010-09-25T18:30:00.000Z-Keffertje08-2010-09-25T12:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">25 sep 2010 20:30 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eddylandzaat-2010-09-25T18:30:00.000Z-Keffertje08-2010-09-25T12:30:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eddylandzaat-2010-09-25T18:30:00.000Z-Keffertje08-2010-09-25T12:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Held" data-mw-thread-id="h-Held"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Held"></span>Held<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Held"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89&action=edit&section=6" title="De broncode bewerken van de sectie: Held"><span>brontekst bewerken</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Haha legendary deze pagina. Indrukwekkend profiel en résumé ook <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Keffertje08" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruiker:Keffertje08">Keffertje08</a>, keep it up <span style="display: inline-block; margin: -4px 0;"><span class="noviewer" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Bestand:Face-smile.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Glimlach"><img alt="Glimlach" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/21px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="21" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/32px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/42px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nieuw_foto-_en_schrijfproject:_het_Europees_Parlement" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nieuw_foto-_en_schrijfproject:_het_Europees_Parlement-2014-01-18T05:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nieuw_foto-_en_schrijfproject:_het_Europees_Parlement-2014-01-18T05:31:00.000Z"></span>Nieuw foto- en schrijfproject: het Europees Parlement<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nieuw_foto-_en_schrijfproject:_het_Europees_Parlement-2014-01-18T05:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89&action=edit&section=7" title="De broncode bewerken van de sectie: Nieuw foto- en schrijfproject: het Europees Parlement"><span>brontekst bewerken</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Laatste bericht: <a href="#c-Romaine-2014-01-18T05:31:00.000Z-Nieuw_foto-_en_schrijfproject:_het_Europees_Parlement">10 jaar geleden</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 bericht</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 persoon in overleg</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Romaine-2014-01-18T05:31:00.000Z-Nieuw_foto-_en_schrijfproject:_het_Europees_Parlement"></span>Hallo Atlas89, Ik zie dat je wel eens artikelen geschreven hebt over politici. Wellicht heb je daarom ook hierin interesse. In samenwerking met verschillende andere (Europese) taalversies van Wikipedia is er een project gestart om foto's te maken van leden van het Europees Parlement. Tevens is het de bedoeling dat de ontbrekende onderwerpen een artikel gaan krijgen. Gisteren heb ik een eerste inventarisatie gemaakt en daarbij bleek ook dat een aantal politieke partijen nog geen artikel hebben. Als je interesse hebt: wees welkom! De projectpagina van dit foto- en schrijfproject is te vinden op <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiproject/Europees_Parlement" title="Wikipedia:Wikiproject/Europees Parlement">Wikipedia:Wikiproject/Europees Parlement</a>. Wees welkom! Groetjes - <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Romaine" title="Gebruiker:Romaine">Romaine</a> (<a href="/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Romaine#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:Romaine">overleg</a>) <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89#c-Romaine-2014-01-18T05:31:00.000Z-Nieuw_foto-_en_schrijfproject:_het_Europees_Parlement" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18 jan 2014 06:31 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Romaine-2014-01-18T05:31:00.000Z-Nieuw_foto-_en_schrijfproject:_het_Europees_Parlement"><span id="ooui-php-14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reageren","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reageren</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Romaine-2014-01-18T05:31:00.000Z-Nieuw_foto-_en_schrijfproject:_het_Europees_Parlement"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Overgenomen van "<a dir="ltr" href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89&oldid=40157933">https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Overleg_gebruiker:Atlas89&oldid=40157933</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> Deze pagina is voor het laatst bewerkt op 18 jan 2014 om 06:31.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">De tekst is beschikbaar onder de licentie <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.nl">Creative Commons Naamsvermelding/Gelijk delen</a>, er kunnen aanvullende voorwaarden van toepassing zijn. 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