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passing","linkableTitle":"User talk:JWSchmidt#In passing"}--><h2 id="User_talk:JWSchmidt#In_passing" data-mw-thread-id="h-User_talk:JWSchmidt#In_passing-2007-01-05T00:32:00.000Z"><span id="User_talk:JWSchmidt.23In_passing"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-User_talk:JWSchmidt#In_passing-2007-01-05T00:32:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JWSchmidt#In_passing" title="User talk:JWSchmidt">User talk:JWSchmidt#In passing</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-User_talk:JWSchmidt#In_passing-2007-01-05T00:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Herbythyme&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section's source code: User talk:JWSchmidt#In passing"><span>edit source</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-JWSchmidt-2007-01-05T00:32:00.000Z-User_talk:JWSchmidt#In_passing">17 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-JWSchmidt-2007-01-05T00:32:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-User_talk:JWSchmidt#In_passing-2007-01-05T00:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-JWSchmidt-2007-01-05T00:32:00.000Z-User_talk:JWSchmidt#In_passing"],"text":"User talk:JWSchmidt#In passing","linkableTitle":"User talk:JWSchmidt#In passing"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JWSchmidt-2007-01-05T00:32:00.000Z-User_talk:JWSchmidt#In_passing"></span>Thanks for the warning. --<a href="/wiki/User:JWSchmidt" title="User:JWSchmidt">JWSchmidt</a> <a href="https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User_talk:Herbythyme#c-JWSchmidt-2007-01-05T00:32:00.000Z-User_talk:JWSchmidt#In_passing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:32, 5 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JWSchmidt-2007-01-05T00:32:00.000Z-User_talk:JWSchmidt#In_passing"><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JWSchmidt-2007-01-05T00:32:00.000Z-User_talk:JWSchmidt#In_passing"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SB_Johnny-2008-03-13T09:23:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Welcome_to_the_Bloom_Clock!-2008-03-13T09:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-SB_Johnny-2008-03-13T09:23:00.000Z-Welcome_to_the_Bloom_Clock!"],"text":"Welcome to the Bloom Clock!","linkableTitle":"Welcome to the Bloom Clock!"}--><h2 id="Welcome_to_the_Bloom_Clock!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Welcome_to_the_Bloom_Clock!-2008-03-13T09:23:00.000Z"><span id="Welcome_to_the_Bloom_Clock.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Welcome_to_the_Bloom_Clock!-2008-03-13T09:23:00.000Z"></span>Welcome to the <a href="/wiki/Bloom_Clock" title="Bloom Clock">Bloom Clock</a>!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Welcome_to_the_Bloom_Clock!-2008-03-13T09:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Herbythyme&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section's source code: Welcome to the Bloom Clock!"><span>edit source</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-SB_Johnny-2008-03-13T09:23:00.000Z-Welcome_to_the_Bloom_Clock!">16 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SB_Johnny-2008-03-13T09:23:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Welcome_to_the_Bloom_Clock!-2008-03-13T09:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-SB_Johnny-2008-03-13T09:23:00.000Z-Welcome_to_the_Bloom_Clock!"],"text":"Welcome to the Bloom Clock!","linkableTitle":"Welcome to the Bloom Clock!"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SB_Johnny-2008-03-13T09:23:00.000Z-Welcome_to_the_Bloom_Clock!"></span>Hello, Herbythyme, and thanks for signing up as a contributor to the <a href="/wiki/Bloom_Clock" title="Bloom Clock">Bloom Clock</a>! </p><p>To get started, all that you need to do is keep your eyes open for flowers on plants growing outdoors. Then, depending on how well you know plants, you can either try to find the plant using the <a href="/wiki/Bloom_Clock/Keys/Global" class="mw-redirect" title="Bloom Clock/Keys/Global">global keys</a>, or just check the <a href="/wiki/Bloom_Clock/Master_List" title="Bloom Clock/Master List">master list</a> where plants are listed by their scientific names. </p><p>Assuming you find a log page for the plant you saw, all that you need to do is click <small>[edit]</small> above the list of signatures, and add *~~~~ on a new line below the last signature and above the line that begins with <noinclude>, which will make your signature appear on the profile page. </p><p>If you don't find a log page, just add an entry for the plant to the <a href="/wiki/Bloom_Clock/Master_List" title="Bloom Clock/Master List">Master List</a> using {{bcp|Scientific name|Common Name}}. Someone can then show you how to create a profile and log page for the plant. </p><p>If you don't know the name of the plant you saw, try asking on <a href="/wiki/Bloom_Clock/Unknown_Plants" title="Bloom Clock/Unknown Plants">Bloom Clock/Unknown Plants</a> using the template there. Photographs are very helpful, but if you don't have a digital camera, just give the best description you can and hopefully someone can identify it for you. </p><p>After you've logged 10 or more plants as flowering for your location, another bloom clock contributor will help you set up the categories and templates used to construct a key for your region, and try to match up your region to the global <a href="/wiki/Bloom_Clock/Keys" title="Bloom Clock/Keys">keys</a>. </p><p>If you have any questions, ideas, or need something explained, please feel free to leave a message on my talk page, and I'll get back to you as soon as I can! </p><p>(Apologies for the long-belated welcome message... finally got around to writing one!) --<a href="/wiki/User:SB_Johnny" title="User:SB Johnny"><span style="font-size:100%;font-weight:normal;color:green;background-color:transparent"><b>SB_Johnny</b></span></a> | <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SB_Johnny" title="User talk:SB Johnny"><span style="font-size:100%;font-weight:normal;color:green;background-color:transparent">talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User_talk:Herbythyme#c-SB_Johnny-2008-03-13T09:23:00.000Z-Welcome_to_the_Bloom_Clock!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SB_Johnny-2008-03-13T09:23:00.000Z-Welcome_to_the_Bloom_Clock!"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SB_Johnny-2008-03-13T09:23:00.000Z-Welcome_to_the_Bloom_Clock!"></span> </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐79d9bc49cc‐sc68l Cached time: 20241203010057 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.014 seconds CPU time usage: 0.057 seconds Real time usage: 0.077 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 65/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 422/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 0/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 3/100 Expensive parser function count: 0/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 57/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.006/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 636083/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 27.612 1 -total 99.37% 27.439 2 Template:Font --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwikiversity:pcache:17292:|#|:idhash:canonical and timestamp 20241203010057 and revision id 1885126. 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