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<!doctype html> <html lang="en" xmlns:fb="http://ogp.me/ns/fb#"><head><title data-react-helmet="true">The Nurse - Somebody | iHeart</title><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="on" http-equiv="x-dns-prefetch-control"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" charSet="utf-8"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1, maximum-scale=5.0, user-scalable=yes" name="viewport"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="yes" name="mobile-web-app-capable"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="#C6002B" name="theme-color"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="video" property="og:type"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="&lt;p&gt;Police promise Shapearl they’ll do everything they can to solve Courtney’s case, but the detectives won’t release the names of officers who interacted with her son. With nowhere left to turn, Shapearl begins her own investigation and has a serendipitous run-in with the nurse who treated Courtney the night he died.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A co-production of Topic Studios, The Intercept, the Invisible Institute, and iHeartRadio, in association with Tenderfoot TV.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We want to hear from you, email us at info@somebodypodcast.com or leave us a voicemail at 773-270-0121.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Host: Shapearl Wells&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Producers: Alison Flowers and Bill Healy&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Story Editor: Sarah Geis&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Associate Producer: Ellen Glover&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Executive Producer, Invisible Institute: Jamie Kalven&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Executive Producers, Topic Studios: Maria Zuckerman, Christy Gressman and Leital Molad with Special Thanks to Lizzie Jacobs&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Supervising Producer, The Intercept: Roger Hodge&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sound Design: Carl Scott and Bart Warshaw&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mix Engineer: Michael Raphael&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Theme Song: “Everybody’s Something,” Chance the Rapper&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Additional Reporting: Sam Stecklow, Annie Nguyen, Kahari Blackburn, Rajiv Sinclair, Henri Adams, Matilda Vojak, Dana Brozost-Kelleher, Frances McDonald, Diana Akmakjian, Andrew Fan, Erisa Apantaku and Maddie Anderson.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Translation Support: Benny Hernandez Ocampo and Emma Perez&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Fact Checking: Nawal Arjini&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Original Music: Eric Butler and Nate Fox of the Social Experiment&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Special thanks to Chaclyn Hunt, Maira Khwaja, Andrew Fan, Anwuli Anigbo, Trina Reynolds-Tyler, Sukari Stone, Erisa Apantaku, Craig Futterman, Rick Rowley, Yanilda Gonzalez, Forrest Stuart, Mariah Garcia, Sarah Kinter, Shannon Heffernan, Aaron Moselle, Alan Mills, Vidura Jong-Bahadur, Jason Schumer, Justin Williams and the Jonathan Logan Family Foundation Media Center, Matt Topic, Chris Rasmussen, Bennett Epstein, David Bralow and Julie Wolf.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Theme song “Everybody’s Something” by Chancelor J. Bennett and DJ Ozone with compositions by Roger Karsher, Chuck Magione and James Yancey of Universal Music Publishing Group and Slum Village (R.L. 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With nowhere left to turn, Shapearl begins her own investigation and has a serendipitous run-in with the nurse who treated Courtney the night he died.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A co-production of Topic Studios, The Intercept, the Invisible Institute, and iHeartRadio, in association with Tenderfoot TV.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We want to hear from you, email us at info@somebodypodcast.com or leave us a voicemail at 773-270-0121.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Host: Shapearl Wells&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Producers: Alison Flowers and Bill Healy&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Story Editor: Sarah Geis&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Associate Producer: Ellen Glover&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Executive Producer, Invisible Institute: Jamie Kalven&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Executive Producers, Topic Studios: Maria Zuckerman, Christy Gressman and Leital Molad with Special Thanks to Lizzie Jacobs&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Supervising Producer, The Intercept: Roger Hodge&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sound Design: Carl Scott and Bart Warshaw&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mix Engineer: Michael Raphael&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Theme Song: “Everybody’s Something,” Chance the Rapper&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Additional Reporting: Sam Stecklow, Annie Nguyen, Kahari Blackburn, Rajiv Sinclair, Henri Adams, Matilda Vojak, Dana Brozost-Kelleher, Frances McDonald, Diana Akmakjian, Andrew Fan, Erisa Apantaku and Maddie Anderson.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Translation Support: Benny Hernandez Ocampo and Emma Perez&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Fact Checking: Nawal Arjini&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Original Music: Eric Butler and Nate Fox of the Social Experiment&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Special thanks to Chaclyn Hunt, Maira Khwaja, Andrew Fan, Anwuli Anigbo, Trina Reynolds-Tyler, Sukari Stone, Erisa Apantaku, Craig Futterman, Rick Rowley, Yanilda Gonzalez, Forrest Stuart, Mariah Garcia, Sarah Kinter, Shannon Heffernan, Aaron Moselle, Alan Mills, Vidura Jong-Bahadur, Jason Schumer, Justin Williams and the Jonathan Logan Family Foundation Media Center, Matt Topic, Chris Rasmussen, Bennett Epstein, David Bralow and Julie Wolf.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Theme song “Everybody’s Something” by Chancelor J. 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With nowhere left to turn, Shapearl begins her own investigation and has a serendipitous run-in with the nurse who treated Courtney the night he died.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A co-production of Topic Studios, The Intercept, the Invisible Institute, and iHeartRadio, in association with Tenderfoot TV.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We want to hear from you, email us at info@somebodypodcast.com or leave us a voicemail at 773-270-0121.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Host: Shapearl Wells&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Producers: Alison Flowers and Bill Healy&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Story Editor: Sarah Geis&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Associate Producer: Ellen Glover&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Executive Producer, Invisible Institute: Jamie Kalven&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Executive Producers, Topic Studios: Maria Zuckerman, Christy Gressman and Leital Molad with Special Thanks to Lizzie Jacobs&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Supervising Producer, The Intercept: Roger Hodge&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sound Design: Carl Scott and Bart Warshaw&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mix Engineer: Michael Raphael&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Theme Song: “Everybody’s Something,” Chance the Rapper&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Additional Reporting: Sam Stecklow, Annie Nguyen, Kahari Blackburn, Rajiv Sinclair, Henri Adams, Matilda Vojak, Dana Brozost-Kelleher, Frances McDonald, Diana Akmakjian, Andrew Fan, Erisa Apantaku and Maddie Anderson.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Translation Support: Benny Hernandez Ocampo and Emma Perez&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Fact Checking: Nawal Arjini&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Original Music: Eric Butler and Nate Fox of the Social Experiment&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Special thanks to Chaclyn Hunt, Maira Khwaja, Andrew Fan, Anwuli Anigbo, Trina Reynolds-Tyler, Sukari Stone, Erisa Apantaku, Craig Futterman, Rick Rowley, Yanilda Gonzalez, Forrest Stuart, Mariah Garcia, Sarah Kinter, Shannon Heffernan, Aaron Moselle, Alan Mills, Vidura Jong-Bahadur, Jason Schumer, Justin Williams and the Jonathan Logan Family Foundation Media Center, Matt Topic, Chris Rasmussen, Bennett Epstein, David Bralow and Julie Wolf.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Theme song “Everybody’s Something” by Chancelor J. Bennett and DJ Ozone with compositions by Roger Karsher, Chuck Magione and James Yancey of Universal Music Publishing Group and Slum Village (R.L. Altman III, Titus Glover/Baatin, J Dilla); recording artist/performance by Chance the Rapper, appearing courtesy of himself and Chance the Rapper LLC.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt; Learn more about your ad-choices at &lt;a href=&#x27;https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com&#x27;&gt;https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;See &lt;a href=&#x27;https://omnystudio.com/listener&#x27;&gt;omnystudio.com/listener&lt;/a&gt; for privacy information.&lt;/p&gt;" property="og:description"/><meta data-react-helmet="true" content="&lt;p&gt;Police promise Shapearl they’ll do everything they can to solve Courtney’s case, but the detectives won’t release the names of officers who interacted with her son. 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With nowhere left to turn, Shapearl begins her own investigation and has a serendipitous run-in with the nurse who treated Courtney the night he died.</p><p>A co-production of Topic Studios, The Intercept, the Invisible Institute, and iHeartRadio, in association with Tenderfoot TV.</p><p>We want to hear from you, email us at info@somebodypodcast.com or leave us a voicemail at 773-270-0121.</p><p><br></p><p>Host: Shapearl Wells</p><p>Producers: Alison Flowers and Bill Healy</p><p>Story Editor: Sarah Geis</p><p>Associate Producer: Ellen Glover</p><p>Executive Producer, Invisible Institute: Jamie Kalven</p><p>Executive Producers, Topic Studios: Maria Zuckerman, Christy Gressman and Leital Molad with Special Thanks to Lizzie Jacobs</p><p>Supervising Producer, The Intercept: Roger Hodge</p><p>Sound Design: Carl Scott and Bart Warshaw</p><p>Mix Engineer: Michael Raphael</p><p>Theme Song: “Everybody’s Something,” Chance the Rapper</p><p>Additional Reporting: Sam Stecklow, Annie Nguyen, Kahari Blackburn, Rajiv Sinclair, Henri Adams, Matilda Vojak, Dana Brozost-Kelleher, Frances McDonald, Diana Akmakjian, Andrew Fan, Erisa Apantaku and Maddie Anderson.</p><p>Translation Support: Benny Hernandez Ocampo and Emma Perez</p><p>Fact Checking: Nawal Arjini</p><p>Original Music: Eric Butler and Nate Fox of the Social Experiment</p><p><br></p><p>Special thanks to Chaclyn Hunt, Maira Khwaja, Andrew Fan, Anwuli Anigbo, Trina Reynolds-Tyler, Sukari Stone, Erisa Apantaku, Craig Futterman, Rick Rowley, Yanilda Gonzalez, Forrest Stuart, Mariah Garcia, Sarah Kinter, Shannon Heffernan, Aaron Moselle, Alan Mills, Vidura Jong-Bahadur, Jason Schumer, Justin Williams and the Jonathan Logan Family Foundation Media Center, Matt Topic, Chris Rasmussen, Bennett Epstein, David Bralow and Julie Wolf.</p><p>Theme song “Everybody’s Something” by Chancelor J. 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There are still so many unanswered</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>questions about what led to the death of twenty two</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>year old Courtney Copeland. Family members say Copeland was on</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>his way to a friend's house when he was shot</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(00:20)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>through his car window. A bullet hit his back. He</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>managed to flag down a police car in front of</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the district station and was rushed to a hospital. The</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>wound was fatal. I believe that not enough has been</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>done to thought of Courtney murder, Like what would you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>like done that I haven't done. I personally would have</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>went back and reinterviewed everybody to make sure that we</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(00:44)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>absolutely who ever did this to us, as did you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>turn yourself in to ask for forgiveness from God. My</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>name is Chaparral Else this is a story of my son, Courtney,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a young black man in a fancy car who wound</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(01:06)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>up with a bullet in his back in front of</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a Chicago police station. And it's the story of my</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>search for the truth. This is Somebody. Everybody. Somebids every</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>day non bide the snugging. That's right, and so every</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(01:44)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>black person in this country must rise up and say</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I'm somebody. I have a rich, proud and noble history,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>however painful and exploded, it has been a Black people</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>have always had to say it out loud, I am</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(02:05)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>somebody because the people in charge keep telling us we're not.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I am black, but I'm black and beautiful. This is</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>something Dr Martin Luther King used to stay in front</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of crowds, and Reverend Jesse Jackson has carried on the tradition.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(02:29)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>When I hear Reverend Jackson saying that when he tells</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you that you are somebody, he reminds you to think</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>about your own self worth. And even though the world</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>around you was telling you that you are nothing, you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>are somebody. And my son Courtney, he was somebody. I</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(02:55)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>felt I had the responsibility to force the police to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>take a look at his case and say, hey, this</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>kid is somebody. Hey, everybody, welcome back to Keep Up</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(03:16)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Alive with Reverend Jesse Jackson. I'm Santita Jackson. We want</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you to call us at one. That's Santita Jackson. She</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>co hosts the radio show Keep Hope Alive with her</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>father Reverend Jesse Jackson here in Chicago. Their show airs</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>on w v o N The Voice of the Nation,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>but it used to be called the Voice of the Negro.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>The station was a catalyst and getting out the message</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(03:38)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of the civil rights movement, and now their mainstream. Let</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>me go to chappearl from Chicago. What is on your mind?</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I've been a frequent caller for years. I'm always on</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>their Facebook page and I'm so glad you came off</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of that Facebook. What's on your money today? Thank you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>so much for taking my concern a little good morning</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(03:58)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to your panel. I wanted to actually reiterate what Dr</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Roberts said. You were one of my best callers, someone</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>who was very confrontational in a respectful way, very informed,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and very determined to get the story right. So the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>thing about Santita, she knows so many people, she's connected.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(04:19)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>So after Courtney was killed, she was one of the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>first people I called. There was two or three in</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the morning, something like that. I immediately became alarmed because</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>anyone who calls me at that hour it's typically not</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>good news. And you were in between crying and talking,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and you just kept saying, this is my son and</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>my baby. You just kept saying, Courtney, my baby, my baby, Santita,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(04:43)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>he's been killed. I told her the detectives wouldn't tell</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>me much of anything, but they wanted to ask me</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a bunch of questions. I said, I told you to stop.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>You need to record that is right down, everything that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you heard and saw felt, because you will lose it</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>as we go, as time goes on. Fantitita's advice to</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(05:06)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>write everything down, that was the best advice I could</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>have been given. In the beginning, you get the truth.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>The cover up happens after the first day or so,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>but in the beginning, you get the truth. I went</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>straight into investigate a mode. I wrote up a timeline</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(05:26)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and I made a voice recording on my phone to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>keep track of all the details. I told that recorder</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>everything I was thinking about the night I got the news,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>so approximate around two fifteen am, I received a thunderous</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(05:51)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>beat on my door and I told that recorder about</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>my conversation with detectives. I begin to question, through my pain,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>can I talk to the officer. I need to know</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>exactly what my son said to him, and they said</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(06:14)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that that's the only thing that he had said that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>he had been shot. I also told that recorder about</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>what I really believed happened to Courtney. I believe my</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>son was stopped and pulled out his vehicle because they</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(06:36)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>ran the place and they saw a young black man</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>driving the Hispanic area with a car that was not</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>registered in a black person's name. Courtney had a co</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>sign on that BMW his friend Christian Hernandez. It was</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(06:57)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>his name on the car registration and not Courtneys, which</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the police would have known they ran his plates, and</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Christian told me that police called him right after Courtney</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>died to ask who the real owner of the car was.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>And another thing we knew. The police had Courtney's name,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(07:20)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the male of his name, and so they would have</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>learned that Courtney had an I R number. That's a</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>number that's assigned to you when you're arrested. Let me</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>give you a little backstory. When Courtney was about seventeen,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>he and some friends found a debit card to school</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and they used it to buy some Harold's chicken. And</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(07:43)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I get this phone call and it's my mom and</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>she's like, Courtney's in jail. I'm like, who what, Cordneys,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Who does our mare. So I have told her well,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and I don't care what he did. Leave him there.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I remember being so mad at him. Courtney was punished</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>with the in school suspension. The case was tossed. He</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(08:07)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>never got rested again, but the I R number followed him,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>no matter that he was just a kid and all</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that he and his friends did was still some chicken.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(08:27)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>A week after Courtney died, me, my husband Brent, and</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>my mom Renee, we met with police. The station was</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>old and dilapidated. Brint recorded the whole thing on his</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>phone from his pocket. Hello. Hi. While we waited, I</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(08:53)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>was taking calls and planning Courtney's funeral. The wake is</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>at one, then the uh, the actual services is going</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to start at three, so it's a two hour visitation</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and then the program obvious a meeting. Can I getting</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>some soft drinks, water chips, anything at all? Waters, water, water,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(09:15)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>free water from you? Yeah, Monday is the barrier, Sergeant Mitchell? No, no, no,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>is that team. Hold hold on one second. The three</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of us set across from the three of them. I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>just wanted to know if you want to speaking next,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and what was your sergeant, Mitchell? Sergeant m Yes, ma'am. Oh,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(09:35)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you're the big wig. Huh. I wrote down their names. Okay, okay,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>first of all, you have our condolences. Um. Everybody we've</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>spoken to. Um, there's someone was a great kid, Um</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and nobody's had a bad word to say about them.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>And they told us they do everything they could to</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(09:56)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>find out who killed court this er persons to justice. Okay.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>We we we myself, the detectives. I couldn't have two better</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>guys work in the case. Okay. Um, you know there's</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you know, there's some sometimes people are out in that game,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>they're they're playing out there and you know, things happen.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(10:17)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>This is not the case here, um, And like I said,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you're it provides us with an extra incentive. You know.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>We were kind of of the belief that homicide is</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you know, it's almost biblical. It's like the worst thing</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you can do to somebody. Here. They asked if we</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>had any questions. My mom, Brent and I we had</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a lot, so farre away. Okay. The first question I</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(10:39)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>hit was who was the officer on the scene that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>assisted my son. There were several officers on the scene,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and um, they did they attempted to They were they're</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>comforting to your son. We know that for a fact. Um,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>may we have the n ange of the officers. No,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(11:00)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I am not gonna um not right now. Okay, let's</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>just okay, okay, okay, um. No, we're not going to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>give out names of officers in this okay, Um. But</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I can ensure you that they summoned help right away.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(11:20)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>They comforted your son. Um, they did all that they</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>could to help him. Um. You know, you know, you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>see and you hear a lot of things. But I'm</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>actually really proud of the way the officers conducted themselves,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you know. But when I started to press them, it</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>was clear they hadn't even talked to the officers on</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the scene. So when my son approached the cops, what</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(11:44)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>did he say? From what I understand, even if you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>related to the officer, he'd been shot. Um, they called</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>nine when they got on the radio, and some of</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>an ambulance. He didn't tell them anything. He didn't elaborate,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>like him occurred that. I mean, I know my son,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and that's just like hard to belie. We are going</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(12:06)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to speak with all the officers that were on the scene. Okay,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>so you haven't done it. The detectives. They see what happened.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>This happened over the midnight shift, and Midnight's assigns detectives</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to do the scene, and they speak with the officers,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and we're there. I asked them about the cameras right</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>outside the station, the ones that would have shown what</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>happened when my son pulled up, about the police station,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(12:27)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the police station. Those cameras don't work. Those cameras do</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>not that's crazy, they said, they didn't work. I tell you,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I arrived as the young policeman in that station in May.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I went to the district those cameras, and I was</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>there in January of ninety one until we came here</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(12:48)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>four years ago. Multiple requests over the years, the district</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>commander to him, right outside the police station, there's a</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>big park with three schools. So to tell me those</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>cameras hadn't worked in that case, that was unacceptable. I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>do share. I do share your frustration when things don't</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>work for us. Cameras don't work, computers don't work, automobiles</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(13:10)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>don't work. It is very frustrating. But you know what,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>we have these hurdles in every investigation. I'm just trying.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>How can you use the people have to how I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>feel like the job is to serve and protect, but</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(13:32)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you can't do it your if you don't have the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>property equipment to use it. And that shows me the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>lack of priority it is to save lives in this city.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>But when I talked to the detectives on the phone</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to set up this meeting, one of them told me</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that they had already seen a video from the neighborhood.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Came only won't work and you said that you did</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>find uh? You said you saw him on one camera, right,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(13:57)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I said, I was able to view one and run.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>That's what I said. Okay, so you have you you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>do have other videos that you need to watch. I'm sorry.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I needed to see what was on those tapes, but</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>they wouldn't give them to me. They said it was</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>an ongoing investigation. So I went back home and I</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(14:21)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>pushed in other ways. I hit the streets and I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>got back on the radio. Women have the power to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>transform this world. We can end crime and violence if</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(14:41)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>we all agree to do one thing to share. My</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>theory is that the gang bangers, the police, everybody is</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a suspect until they ruled themselves out. I have to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>see the video in order to rule them out whom</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(15:13)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Cortney's homegoing service was at the Cicero Community Center. The</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>funeral home wouldn't work because Courtney had too many friends,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>so we had people standing room only. Courtney was everyone's</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(15:35)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>best friend. He had that gift of making everyone feel important.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Everybody was saying, oh, he was my best friend. He</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>was my best friend. He was my best friend. He</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>really was my best friend. I just loved the stories</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>people told, like Courtney's friend Jova, was just like that</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(16:02)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>whole chance. The rapper showed up too. He stayed in</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the back, you know, walking in the room and seeing</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>all these familiar faces and all these faces that I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>had never seen before, all broken over my friend. You know,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>it just hit me like he was just a good dude,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(16:24)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>funny dude. Just like realizing like that that somebody had</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>taken him. You know, it was just hard for me</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to to deal with that. Ship there. I put Corney</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>in a tuxedo. That's what he's wearing his favorite picture.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(16:44)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>So I told myself, I'm gonna make him look just</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>like that. The service, it was so beautiful and sent Tita,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>she sang for him, We bring up no You're sang</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(17:12)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>this song, I think by my hello, you're Jackson. Troubles</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of the world. We've been a waitly it says, soon</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I will be done with the troubles of the world.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>You are supposed to cry at birth and rejoice at death,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(17:36)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>because as excited as we are to see a baby,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you don't tell a baby, well, this is gonna be</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a tough journey. All of his best friends were his pallbearers.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>They wore red bull ties, black vests, and white gloves</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(17:58)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>as they lowered my son's body into the ground. With</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(18:22)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Courtney's funeral now behind us, I was just left to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>sit in this new reality that my baby he was</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>never coming back. But still I didn't know the worst</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of what had happened to Courtney. That news was winding</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(18:43)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>this way across the city of Chicago. It started at</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the hospital on the North Side. Someone who worked there</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>says something to a friend, and that friend talked to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>my uncle Marvin, who's on the West side, and Uncle</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Marvin called my mom, who's downtown. Uncle Marvin told my</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(19:04)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>mom that there was a rumor going around the hospital</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that Courtney was combative. What they told him about that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>he was being combative. We were shocked with that information.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>We really were. Police told me he collapsed in front</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of the station. So when did he all of a</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>sudden get uncollapsed and become combative? Plus when he arrived</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(19:27)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to the hospital, he was already in cardiac arrest. I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>asked the hospital to put together Courtney's medical records so</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I can see for myself. Brent and I dropped off</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>our daughter at school and headed straight for the hospital</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>for the paperwork. I started flipping through the medical records</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(19:48)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>before we even left the parking lot. Right away, I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>found a document all right up from the E. M. T. S.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>It says my son was combative, violent, agitated, a dangerous</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to others, and that he was handcuffed. Handcuffed. Police never</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(20:09)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>told me about any handcuffs, And why would they handcuff</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>someone who's dying unless they thought he was a suspect</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of some kind. Brent was quiet, but I can tell</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>he was angry. I know how he is, and I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>know he didn't do anything to pose a threat. Had</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>he been a young a young white guy, nice car,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(20:34)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the situation would have been totally different. I thought about</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>those detectives we had just met with. You know, you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>see and hear a lot of things, but I'm actually</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>really proud of the way the officers conducted themselves. They</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>were just playing me for food. You know, you can</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>take some comfort in that that he was there are</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>people there to care, and that they you know, they</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>didn't help Brennan. I really need to process all of this.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(20:57)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>We felt sick to our stomachs, but we knew we</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>had to eat, so we went to one of our</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>favorite restaurants, a place called Sweet Maple's Cafe. We drove</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>there directly from the hospital. Our hearts were on the floor.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(21:21)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>We couldn't stop thinking about the police handcuffing our baby.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Right when we walk in the door, lowing behold. There</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>she is the e R nurse from the night Courtney died,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you know, the one who had held my hand and</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(21:44)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>comfort of me. She was sitting with an older woman,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>her mother. I told my mom, like, oh my god</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that I was like, Mom, you remember the story I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>was telling you about when a young man got killed.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I'm like, that's that is his parents right there. Clarissa</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Hawkins was work in the e R when Courtney came in.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>She was the one who cut the clothes off his body.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(22:06)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I had to ask her, was my baby really handcuffed?</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>She told me he was. I remember him specifically being</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>handcuffed to the bed, and so we were like, okay,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>where's the police. We need these handcuffs off um and</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>then maybe maybe like about I said, about a minute,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(22:30)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and the police walked in and they took off the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>They you know, took off the handcuffs. Nurse talking said</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>when she first saw Courtney, his right hand was handcuffed</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to the stretcher, which was a problem because they needed</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to transfer him to a hospital bed so they can</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>work on him and they couldn't. And yeah, it was different.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(22:54)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I don't remember ever saying any other gunshot victims come</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>in handcuffed. She didn't remember anything about him being combative.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>So if if somebody's combattled, we know that when they're</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>coming down, because that's one of the first thing they</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>tell us for safety. Oh this person's could battlem so</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>be ready. We never got that report about him that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>he was combative because then now our security team has</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(23:16)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to come and we have to have extra security there.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>We have to have medications on board the calm this</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>person down. My baby must have been so scared he</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>was all by himself, but it's a comfort to me</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that Nurse Hawkins showed him some compassions or something I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>do personally. I remember laying my hands on his arm</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and I started praying for him, like so, I don't</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>know what happened, but please, you know, say this person life.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(23:38)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I started praying. She didn't know anything about Courtney when</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>she prayed for him, just that he was somebody. We</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>exchanged numbers and left the restaurant, but the day wasn't</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(23:58)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>over yet. It wasn't even noon. Next we had to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>go to the Tollyard to get Courtney's car back. We've</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>been getting the runaround for weeks. The BMW was caught</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>between the police in the impound lot, just stuck in paperwork.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(24:20)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I wanted all of courtney stuff back, the clothes he</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>was wearing, his book bag, his phone, and most of all,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I wanted the car babay. Courtney's friend, Christian Hernandez, the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>guy who co signed for it, had to meet us</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(24:41)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>there to get it released. And the thing that shook</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>us both is that there was no blood in the car,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>but police said Courtney was shot inside the vehicle. It</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>simply didn't make sense we told the BMW home. A</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(25:03)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>lawyer we found was waiting for us to process the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>car back in our garage. The lawyer and his colleague</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>took hundreds of pictures of the BMW as evidence. I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>foundly felt like someone was taking my son's case seriously.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>They wore gloves and put the items from the car</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(25:24)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and ziplock bags and labeled them. I stayed inside the house.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>It was too emotional. I've gone through those pictures of</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>what they found. There's lots and lots of broken glass,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>but besides that, it was like looking into my son's world.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(26:01)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>There's a yellow sticky note taped to his driver's side</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that says marketing director. That's the job Courtney was working towards.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>It was his goal, and I promise you looking at that,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>it just broke my heart. There was a lighter, a</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>nutter butter wrapper, an empty Gatoray bottle, lemon line, his</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(26:25)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>favorite kind, in a parking ticket he was probably hiding</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>from me. There's one winter glove, no doubt he lost</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the other one. He was always on the goal. Item</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>after item sealed up in those plastic bags. There was</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(26:48)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a box for a new iPhone he had just gotten</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that phone a week before he was shot, but the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>phone itself wasn't there. 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Ellen Glover is our</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>associate producer for The Invisible Institute. Jamie Calvin is executive</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>producer for Topic Studios. Maria Zucker and Christie Gressman and</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Leta Mallod are executive producers. Special thanks to Lizzie Jacobs</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>for The Intercept. Roger Hodge, Deputy Editor, is supervising producer.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(28:12)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Sound designed by Carl Scott and Bart Warshaw. Michael Raphael</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>is our mixed engineer. Our theme song, Everybody's Something is</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>by Chance the Rapper. Original music for the podcast by</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Nate Fox of The Social Experiment and Eric Butler. 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Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.</div></div><style data-emotion="css 1dcehgl">.css-1dcehgl{-webkit-align-items:center;-webkit-box-align:center;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;background-color:#FFFFFF;border-radius:0.3rem;display:block;height:35rem;overflow-wrap:anywhere;overflow-y:auto;padding:1.8rem;white-space:pre-line;width:100%;}.css-1dcehgl .podcast-transcription-speaker{font-weight:bold;}</style><div class="css-1dcehgl e1kn80fp0"><span class=podcast-transcription-speaker>Speaker 1</span> <span class=podcast-transcription-time>(00:00)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>What you're about to hear in the following episode does</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>not implicate the Chicago Police in the murder of Courtney</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Copeland previously on Somebody. There are still so many unanswered</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>questions about what led to the death of twenty two</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>year old Courtney Copeland. Family members say Copeland was on</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>his way to a friend's house when he was shot</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(00:20)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>through his car window. A bullet hit his back. He</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>managed to flag down a police car in front of</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the district station and was rushed to a hospital. The</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>wound was fatal. I believe that not enough has been</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>done to thought of Courtney murder, Like what would you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>like done that I haven't done. I personally would have</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>went back and reinterviewed everybody to make sure that we</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(00:44)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>absolutely who ever did this to us, as did you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>turn yourself in to ask for forgiveness from God. My</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>name is Chaparral Else this is a story of my son, Courtney,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a young black man in a fancy car who wound</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(01:06)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>up with a bullet in his back in front of</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a Chicago police station. And it's the story of my</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>search for the truth. This is Somebody. Everybody. Somebids every</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>day non bide the snugging. That's right, and so every</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(01:44)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>black person in this country must rise up and say</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I'm somebody. I have a rich, proud and noble history,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>however painful and exploded, it has been a Black people</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>have always had to say it out loud, I am</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(02:05)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>somebody because the people in charge keep telling us we're not.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I am black, but I'm black and beautiful. This is</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>something Dr Martin Luther King used to stay in front</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of crowds, and Reverend Jesse Jackson has carried on the tradition.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(02:29)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>When I hear Reverend Jackson saying that when he tells</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you that you are somebody, he reminds you to think</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>about your own self worth. And even though the world</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>around you was telling you that you are nothing, you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>are somebody. And my son Courtney, he was somebody. I</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(02:55)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>felt I had the responsibility to force the police to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>take a look at his case and say, hey, this</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>kid is somebody. Hey, everybody, welcome back to Keep Up</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(03:16)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Alive with Reverend Jesse Jackson. I'm Santita Jackson. We want</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you to call us at one. That's Santita Jackson. She</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>co hosts the radio show Keep Hope Alive with her</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>father Reverend Jesse Jackson here in Chicago. Their show airs</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>on w v o N The Voice of the Nation,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>but it used to be called the Voice of the Negro.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>The station was a catalyst and getting out the message</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(03:38)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of the civil rights movement, and now their mainstream. Let</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>me go to chappearl from Chicago. What is on your mind?</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I've been a frequent caller for years. I'm always on</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>their Facebook page and I'm so glad you came off</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of that Facebook. What's on your money today? Thank you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>so much for taking my concern a little good morning</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(03:58)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to your panel. I wanted to actually reiterate what Dr</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Roberts said. You were one of my best callers, someone</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>who was very confrontational in a respectful way, very informed,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and very determined to get the story right. So the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>thing about Santita, she knows so many people, she's connected.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(04:19)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>So after Courtney was killed, she was one of the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>first people I called. There was two or three in</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the morning, something like that. I immediately became alarmed because</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>anyone who calls me at that hour it's typically not</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>good news. And you were in between crying and talking,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and you just kept saying, this is my son and</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>my baby. You just kept saying, Courtney, my baby, my baby, Santita,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(04:43)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>he's been killed. I told her the detectives wouldn't tell</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>me much of anything, but they wanted to ask me</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a bunch of questions. I said, I told you to stop.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>You need to record that is right down, everything that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you heard and saw felt, because you will lose it</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>as we go, as time goes on. Fantitita's advice to</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(05:06)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>write everything down, that was the best advice I could</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>have been given. In the beginning, you get the truth.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>The cover up happens after the first day or so,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>but in the beginning, you get the truth. I went</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>straight into investigate a mode. I wrote up a timeline</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(05:26)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and I made a voice recording on my phone to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>keep track of all the details. I told that recorder</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>everything I was thinking about the night I got the news,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>so approximate around two fifteen am, I received a thunderous</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(05:51)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>beat on my door and I told that recorder about</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>my conversation with detectives. I begin to question, through my pain,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>can I talk to the officer. I need to know</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>exactly what my son said to him, and they said</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(06:14)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that that's the only thing that he had said that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>he had been shot. I also told that recorder about</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>what I really believed happened to Courtney. I believe my</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>son was stopped and pulled out his vehicle because they</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(06:36)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>ran the place and they saw a young black man</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>driving the Hispanic area with a car that was not</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>registered in a black person's name. Courtney had a co</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>sign on that BMW his friend Christian Hernandez. It was</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(06:57)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>his name on the car registration and not Courtneys, which</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the police would have known they ran his plates, and</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Christian told me that police called him right after Courtney</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>died to ask who the real owner of the car was.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>And another thing we knew. The police had Courtney's name,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(07:20)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the male of his name, and so they would have</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>learned that Courtney had an I R number. That's a</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>number that's assigned to you when you're arrested. Let me</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>give you a little backstory. When Courtney was about seventeen,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>he and some friends found a debit card to school</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and they used it to buy some Harold's chicken. And</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(07:43)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I get this phone call and it's my mom and</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>she's like, Courtney's in jail. I'm like, who what, Cordneys,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Who does our mare. So I have told her well,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and I don't care what he did. Leave him there.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I remember being so mad at him. Courtney was punished</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>with the in school suspension. The case was tossed. He</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(08:07)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>never got rested again, but the I R number followed him,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>no matter that he was just a kid and all</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that he and his friends did was still some chicken.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(08:27)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>A week after Courtney died, me, my husband Brent, and</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>my mom Renee, we met with police. The station was</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>old and dilapidated. Brint recorded the whole thing on his</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>phone from his pocket. Hello. Hi. While we waited, I</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(08:53)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>was taking calls and planning Courtney's funeral. The wake is</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>at one, then the uh, the actual services is going</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to start at three, so it's a two hour visitation</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and then the program obvious a meeting. Can I getting</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>some soft drinks, water chips, anything at all? Waters, water, water,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(09:15)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>free water from you? Yeah, Monday is the barrier, Sergeant Mitchell? No, no, no,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>is that team. Hold hold on one second. The three</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of us set across from the three of them. I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>just wanted to know if you want to speaking next,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and what was your sergeant, Mitchell? Sergeant m Yes, ma'am. Oh,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(09:35)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you're the big wig. Huh. I wrote down their names. Okay, okay,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>first of all, you have our condolences. Um. Everybody we've</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>spoken to. Um, there's someone was a great kid, Um</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and nobody's had a bad word to say about them.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>And they told us they do everything they could to</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(09:56)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>find out who killed court this er persons to justice. Okay.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>We we we myself, the detectives. I couldn't have two better</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>guys work in the case. Okay. Um, you know there's</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you know, there's some sometimes people are out in that game,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>they're they're playing out there and you know, things happen.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(10:17)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>This is not the case here, um, And like I said,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you're it provides us with an extra incentive. You know.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>We were kind of of the belief that homicide is</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you know, it's almost biblical. It's like the worst thing</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you can do to somebody. Here. They asked if we</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>had any questions. My mom, Brent and I we had</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a lot, so farre away. Okay. The first question I</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(10:39)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>hit was who was the officer on the scene that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>assisted my son. There were several officers on the scene,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and um, they did they attempted to They were they're</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>comforting to your son. We know that for a fact. Um,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>may we have the n ange of the officers. No,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(11:00)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I am not gonna um not right now. Okay, let's</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>just okay, okay, okay, um. No, we're not going to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>give out names of officers in this okay, Um. But</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I can ensure you that they summoned help right away.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(11:20)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>They comforted your son. Um, they did all that they</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>could to help him. Um. You know, you know, you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>see and you hear a lot of things. But I'm</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>actually really proud of the way the officers conducted themselves,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you know. But when I started to press them, it</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>was clear they hadn't even talked to the officers on</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the scene. So when my son approached the cops, what</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(11:44)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>did he say? From what I understand, even if you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>related to the officer, he'd been shot. Um, they called</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>nine when they got on the radio, and some of</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>an ambulance. He didn't tell them anything. He didn't elaborate,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>like him occurred that. I mean, I know my son,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and that's just like hard to belie. We are going</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(12:06)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to speak with all the officers that were on the scene. Okay,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>so you haven't done it. The detectives. They see what happened.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>This happened over the midnight shift, and Midnight's assigns detectives</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to do the scene, and they speak with the officers,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and we're there. I asked them about the cameras right</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>outside the station, the ones that would have shown what</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>happened when my son pulled up, about the police station,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(12:27)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the police station. Those cameras don't work. Those cameras do</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>not that's crazy, they said, they didn't work. I tell you,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I arrived as the young policeman in that station in May.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I went to the district those cameras, and I was</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>there in January of ninety one until we came here</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(12:48)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>four years ago. Multiple requests over the years, the district</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>commander to him, right outside the police station, there's a</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>big park with three schools. So to tell me those</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>cameras hadn't worked in that case, that was unacceptable. I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>do share. I do share your frustration when things don't</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>work for us. Cameras don't work, computers don't work, automobiles</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(13:10)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>don't work. It is very frustrating. But you know what,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>we have these hurdles in every investigation. I'm just trying.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>How can you use the people have to how I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>feel like the job is to serve and protect, but</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(13:32)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you can't do it your if you don't have the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>property equipment to use it. And that shows me the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>lack of priority it is to save lives in this city.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>But when I talked to the detectives on the phone</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to set up this meeting, one of them told me</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that they had already seen a video from the neighborhood.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Came only won't work and you said that you did</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>find uh? You said you saw him on one camera, right,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(13:57)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I said, I was able to view one and run.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>That's what I said. Okay, so you have you you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>do have other videos that you need to watch. I'm sorry.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I needed to see what was on those tapes, but</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>they wouldn't give them to me. They said it was</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>an ongoing investigation. So I went back home and I</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(14:21)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>pushed in other ways. I hit the streets and I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>got back on the radio. Women have the power to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>transform this world. We can end crime and violence if</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(14:41)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>we all agree to do one thing to share. My</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>theory is that the gang bangers, the police, everybody is</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a suspect until they ruled themselves out. I have to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>see the video in order to rule them out whom</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(15:13)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Cortney's homegoing service was at the Cicero Community Center. The</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>funeral home wouldn't work because Courtney had too many friends,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>so we had people standing room only. Courtney was everyone's</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(15:35)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>best friend. He had that gift of making everyone feel important.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Everybody was saying, oh, he was my best friend. He</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>was my best friend. He was my best friend. He</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>really was my best friend. I just loved the stories</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>people told, like Courtney's friend Jova, was just like that</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(16:02)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>whole chance. The rapper showed up too. He stayed in</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the back, you know, walking in the room and seeing</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>all these familiar faces and all these faces that I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>had never seen before, all broken over my friend. You know,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>it just hit me like he was just a good dude,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(16:24)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>funny dude. Just like realizing like that that somebody had</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>taken him. You know, it was just hard for me</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to to deal with that. Ship there. I put Corney</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>in a tuxedo. That's what he's wearing his favorite picture.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(16:44)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>So I told myself, I'm gonna make him look just</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>like that. The service, it was so beautiful and sent Tita,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>she sang for him, We bring up no You're sang</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(17:12)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>this song, I think by my hello, you're Jackson. Troubles</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of the world. We've been a waitly it says, soon</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I will be done with the troubles of the world.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>You are supposed to cry at birth and rejoice at death,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(17:36)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>because as excited as we are to see a baby,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you don't tell a baby, well, this is gonna be</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a tough journey. All of his best friends were his pallbearers.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>They wore red bull ties, black vests, and white gloves</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(17:58)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>as they lowered my son's body into the ground. With</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(18:22)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Courtney's funeral now behind us, I was just left to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>sit in this new reality that my baby he was</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>never coming back. But still I didn't know the worst</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of what had happened to Courtney. That news was winding</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(18:43)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>this way across the city of Chicago. It started at</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the hospital on the North Side. Someone who worked there</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>says something to a friend, and that friend talked to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>my uncle Marvin, who's on the West side, and Uncle</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Marvin called my mom, who's downtown. Uncle Marvin told my</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(19:04)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>mom that there was a rumor going around the hospital</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that Courtney was combative. What they told him about that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>he was being combative. We were shocked with that information.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>We really were. Police told me he collapsed in front</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of the station. So when did he all of a</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>sudden get uncollapsed and become combative? Plus when he arrived</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(19:27)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to the hospital, he was already in cardiac arrest. I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>asked the hospital to put together Courtney's medical records so</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I can see for myself. Brent and I dropped off</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>our daughter at school and headed straight for the hospital</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>for the paperwork. I started flipping through the medical records</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(19:48)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>before we even left the parking lot. Right away, I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>found a document all right up from the E. M. T. S.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>It says my son was combative, violent, agitated, a dangerous</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to others, and that he was handcuffed. Handcuffed. Police never</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(20:09)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>told me about any handcuffs, And why would they handcuff</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>someone who's dying unless they thought he was a suspect</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of some kind. Brent was quiet, but I can tell</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>he was angry. I know how he is, and I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>know he didn't do anything to pose a threat. Had</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>he been a young a young white guy, nice car,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(20:34)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the situation would have been totally different. I thought about</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>those detectives we had just met with. You know, you</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>see and hear a lot of things, but I'm actually</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>really proud of the way the officers conducted themselves. They</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>were just playing me for food. You know, you can</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>take some comfort in that that he was there are</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>people there to care, and that they you know, they</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>didn't help Brennan. I really need to process all of this.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(20:57)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>We felt sick to our stomachs, but we knew we</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>had to eat, so we went to one of our</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>favorite restaurants, a place called Sweet Maple's Cafe. We drove</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>there directly from the hospital. Our hearts were on the floor.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(21:21)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>We couldn't stop thinking about the police handcuffing our baby.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Right when we walk in the door, lowing behold. There</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>she is the e R nurse from the night Courtney died,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>you know, the one who had held my hand and</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(21:44)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>comfort of me. She was sitting with an older woman,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>her mother. I told my mom, like, oh my god</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that I was like, Mom, you remember the story I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>was telling you about when a young man got killed.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I'm like, that's that is his parents right there. Clarissa</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Hawkins was work in the e R when Courtney came in.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>She was the one who cut the clothes off his body.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(22:06)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I had to ask her, was my baby really handcuffed?</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>She told me he was. I remember him specifically being</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>handcuffed to the bed, and so we were like, okay,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>where's the police. We need these handcuffs off um and</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>then maybe maybe like about I said, about a minute,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(22:30)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and the police walked in and they took off the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>They you know, took off the handcuffs. Nurse talking said</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>when she first saw Courtney, his right hand was handcuffed</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to the stretcher, which was a problem because they needed</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to transfer him to a hospital bed so they can</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>work on him and they couldn't. And yeah, it was different.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(22:54)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I don't remember ever saying any other gunshot victims come</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>in handcuffed. She didn't remember anything about him being combative.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>So if if somebody's combattled, we know that when they're</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>coming down, because that's one of the first thing they</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>tell us for safety. Oh this person's could battlem so</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>be ready. We never got that report about him that</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>he was combative because then now our security team has</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(23:16)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>to come and we have to have extra security there.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>We have to have medications on board the calm this</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>person down. My baby must have been so scared he</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>was all by himself, but it's a comfort to me</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that Nurse Hawkins showed him some compassions or something I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>do personally. I remember laying my hands on his arm</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and I started praying for him, like so, I don't</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>know what happened, but please, you know, say this person life.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(23:38)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I started praying. She didn't know anything about Courtney when</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>she prayed for him, just that he was somebody. We</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>exchanged numbers and left the restaurant, but the day wasn't</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(23:58)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>over yet. It wasn't even noon. Next we had to</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>go to the Tollyard to get Courtney's car back. We've</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>been getting the runaround for weeks. The BMW was caught</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>between the police in the impound lot, just stuck in paperwork.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(24:20)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I wanted all of courtney stuff back, the clothes he</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>was wearing, his book bag, his phone, and most of all,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>I wanted the car babay. Courtney's friend, Christian Hernandez, the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>guy who co signed for it, had to meet us</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(24:41)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>there to get it released. And the thing that shook</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>us both is that there was no blood in the car,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>but police said Courtney was shot inside the vehicle. It</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>simply didn't make sense we told the BMW home. A</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(25:03)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>lawyer we found was waiting for us to process the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>car back in our garage. The lawyer and his colleague</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>took hundreds of pictures of the BMW as evidence. I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>foundly felt like someone was taking my son's case seriously.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>They wore gloves and put the items from the car</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(25:24)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>and ziplock bags and labeled them. I stayed inside the house.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>It was too emotional. I've gone through those pictures of</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>what they found. There's lots and lots of broken glass,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>but besides that, it was like looking into my son's world.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(26:01)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>There's a yellow sticky note taped to his driver's side</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that says marketing director. That's the job Courtney was working towards.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>It was his goal, and I promise you looking at that,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>it just broke my heart. There was a lighter, a</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>nutter butter wrapper, an empty Gatoray bottle, lemon line, his</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(26:25)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>favorite kind, in a parking ticket he was probably hiding</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>from me. There's one winter glove, no doubt he lost</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>the other one. He was always on the goal. Item</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>after item sealed up in those plastic bags. There was</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(26:48)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>a box for a new iPhone he had just gotten</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>that phone a week before he was shot, but the</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>phone itself wasn't there. The police still had it a</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>few weeks later. When I got it back, the screen</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>was cracked and the phone was unlocked. Everybody, every Day,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(27:23)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>No by these Not No Somebody is a co production</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>of The Invisible Institute, The Intercept, Topic Studios, and I</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Heart Radio in association with Tenderfoot TV. I'm Chaparral Wolls.</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>This podcast is produced by Alison Flowers and Bill Heally.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(27:47)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Sarah Guice is our story editor. Ellen Glover is our</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>associate producer for The Invisible Institute. Jamie Calvin is executive</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>producer for Topic Studios. Maria Zucker and Christie Gressman and</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Leta Mallod are executive producers. Special thanks to Lizzie Jacobs</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>for The Intercept. Roger Hodge, Deputy Editor, is supervising producer.</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(28:12)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Sound designed by Carl Scott and Bart Warshaw. Michael Raphael</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>is our mixed engineer. Our theme song, Everybody's Something is</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>by Chance the Rapper. Original music for the podcast by</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Nate Fox of The Social Experiment and Eric Butler. Additional</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>reporting by Sam Stecklo Annie When, Khari Blackburn, Ray Jef Sinclair,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(28:35)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Henry Adams, Matilda Voyat, Dana Roso's kellerher Frances McDonald, Diana Archmagian,</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Maddie Anderson, Andrew Fan and Rissa Apantaku. Translation support by</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Benny Hernandez Occampo and Emma Perez. Fact checking by Noah</span><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>Are Jenny Special thanks to Chris Rasmussen, Bennett Epstein, Matt Topic,</span><br/><br/><span class=podcast-transcription-time>(29:00)</span>:<br/><span class=podcast-transcription-text>David Brelow, and Julie Wolf. 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