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<div class="vector-menu-heading"> Generelt </div> <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="t-whatlinkshere" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Spesial:Lenker_hit/Wikipedia:Sletting/EndoTech" title="Liste over alle wikisider som lenker hit [j]" accesskey="j"><span>Lenker hit</span></a></li><li id="t-recentchangeslinked" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Spesial:Relaterte_endringer/Wikipedia:Sletting/EndoTech" rel="nofollow" title="Siste endringer i sider som blir lenket fra denne siden [k]" accesskey="k"><span>Relaterte endringer</span></a></li><li id="t-upload" class="mw-list-item"><a href="//commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard?uselang=no" title="Last opp filer [u]" accesskey="u"><span>Last opp fil</span></a></li><li id="t-specialpages" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Spesial:Spesialsider" title="Liste over alle spesialsider [q]" accesskey="q"><span>Spesialsider</span></a></li><li id="t-permalink" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sletting/EndoTech&oldid=24818929" title="Permanent lenke til denne versjonen av siden"><span>Permanent lenke</span></a></li><li id="t-info" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sletting/EndoTech&action=info" title="Mer informasjon om denne siden"><span>Sideinformasjon</span></a></li><li id="t-urlshortener" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Spesial:UrlShortener&url=https%3A%2F%2Fno.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FWikipedia%3ASletting%2FEndoTech"><span>Hent forkortet URL</span></a></li><li id="t-urlshortener-qrcode" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Spesial:QrCode&url=https%3A%2F%2Fno.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FWikipedia%3ASletting%2FEndoTech"><span>Last ned QR-kode</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div id="p-coll-print_export" class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-coll-print_export" > <div class="vector-menu-heading"> Skriv ut / eksporter </div> <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="coll-download-as-rl" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Spesial:DownloadAsPdf&page=Wikipedia%3ASletting%2FEndoTech&action=show-download-screen"><span>Last ned som PDF</span></a></li><li id="t-print" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sletting/EndoTech&printable=yes" title="Utskriftsvennlig versjon av denne siden [p]" accesskey="p"><span>Utskriftsvennlig versjon</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div id="p-wikibase-otherprojects" class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-wikibase-otherprojects emptyPortlet" > <div class="vector-menu-heading"> På andre prosjekter </div> <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </nav> </div> </div> </div> <div class="vector-column-end"> <div class="vector-sticky-pinned-container"> <nav class="vector-page-tools-landmark" aria-label="Sideverktøy"> <div id="vector-page-tools-pinned-container" class="vector-pinned-container"> </div> </nav> <nav class="vector-appearance-landmark" aria-label="Utseende"> <div id="vector-appearance-pinned-container" class="vector-pinned-container"> <div id="vector-appearance" class="vector-appearance vector-pinnable-element"> <div class="vector-pinnable-header vector-appearance-pinnable-header vector-pinnable-header-pinned" data-feature-name="appearance-pinned" data-pinnable-element-id="vector-appearance" data-pinned-container-id="vector-appearance-pinned-container" data-unpinned-container-id="vector-appearance-unpinned-container" > <div class="vector-pinnable-header-label">Utseende</div> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-pin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-appearance.pin">flytt til sidefeltet</button> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-unpin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-appearance.unpin">skjul</button> </div> </div> </div> </nav> </div> </div> <div id="bodyContent" class="vector-body" aria-labelledby="firstHeading" data-mw-ve-target-container> <div class="vector-body-before-content"> <div class="mw-indicators"> </div> <div id="siteSub" class="noprint">Fra Wikipedia, den frie encyklopedi</div> </div> <div id="contentSub"><div id="mw-content-subtitle"><div class="subpages">< <bdi dir="ltr"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sletting" title="Wikipedia:Sletting">Wikipedia:Sletting</a></bdi></div></div></div> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="nb" dir="ltr"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="EndoTech" data-mw-thread-id="h-EndoTech-20241030091600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-EndoTech-20241030091600"></span><a href="/wiki/EndoTech" title="EndoTech">EndoTech</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-EndoTech-20241030091600"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sletting/EndoTech&action=edit&section=1" title="Rediger kildekoden til seksjonen EndoTech"><span>rediger kilde</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600-EndoTech"></span>Ny artikkel om firmaet bak D.AI.SY. som nylig ble slettet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sletting/D.AI.SY" title="Wikipedia:Sletting/D.AI.SY">Wikipedia:Sletting/D.AI.SY</a>. Artikkelen omhandler i praksis det samme så denne kunne egentlig gått til <span class="slettegrafikk"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fil:Symbol_speedy_delete_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6d/Symbol_speedy_delete_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_speedy_delete_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6d/Symbol_speedy_delete_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_speedy_delete_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6d/Symbol_speedy_delete_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_speedy_delete_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span></span> <b>Hurtigslett</b>. Dette er en omkamp. Begrunnelsen for slett er det samme som sist. Artikkelen har ikke informasjon om omfang og størrelse. Tilsynsmyndighetene utsteder tusenvis av godkjenninger, advarsler eller anmerkninger årlig, så det er ikke noe spesielt. Det er til dels obskure kilder og ingen omtale i brede medier er gjengitt. Hilsen <i><a href="/wiki/Bruker:Erik_den_yngre" title="Bruker:Erik den yngre">Erik d.y.</a></i> <a href="https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sletting/EndoTech#c-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600-EndoTech" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">30. okt. 2024 kl. 10:16 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600-EndoTech"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svar</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600-EndoTech"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cavernia-20241030115300-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600"></span>Dette er fjerde gang du fremsetter argumentet, og det er fjerde gang jeg må forklare deg at du overhodet ikke har forstått hvordan dette fungerer med offisielle varsler fra finansmyndigheter. Dette må du først adressere på artikkelens diskusjonsside, ettersom slettenominering ikke skal være en alternativ måte å forsøke å vinne en diskusjon på. Å begrunne nominasjonen med "til dels obskure kilder" uten å konkret angi hvilke du sikter til, er heller ikke konstruktivt. --<a href="/wiki/Bruker:Cavernia" title="Bruker:Cavernia">-- cavernia --</a> (<a href="/wiki/Brukerdiskusjon:Cavernia" title="Brukerdiskusjon:Cavernia">diskusjon</a>) <a href="https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sletting/EndoTech#c-Cavernia-20241030115300-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">30. okt. 2024 kl. 12:53 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cavernia-20241030115300-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svar</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cavernia-20241030115300-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trygve_W_Nodeland-20241031082700-Cavernia-20241030115300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Bruker:Cavernia" title="Bruker:Cavernia">Cavernia</a>:</span> Jeg er helt enig i alle deler av din argumentasjon. Men så kommer det vanskeligste, nemlig for oss å vurdere gehalten i din vektlegging av tilsynsmyndighetenes advarsler etc. Det jeg tror vi mangler er rammeverket for å vurdere hva en slik advarsel egentlig betyr. Kanskje vil det være hensiktsmessig først å lage artikler om dette? Til sammenlikning vil det når det skrives artikler om kunstnere som har opptrådt på det eller det teatret, ikke være så lett å vurdere deres prestasjoner når vi ikke har noen artikkel om vedkommende teater. Noen har fått en pris, men hva vet vi om prisen? Etc. Til overveielse.--<a href="/wiki/Bruker:Trygve_W_Nodeland" title="Bruker:Trygve W Nodeland">Trygve Nodeland</a> (<a href="/wiki/Brukerdiskusjon:Trygve_W_Nodeland" title="Brukerdiskusjon:Trygve W Nodeland">diskusjon</a>) <a href="https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sletting/EndoTech#c-Trygve_W_Nodeland-20241031082700-Cavernia-20241030115300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">31. okt. 2024 kl. 09:27 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trygve_W_Nodeland-20241031082700-Cavernia-20241030115300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svar</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trygve_W_Nodeland-20241031082700-Cavernia-20241030115300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cavernia-20241101135400-Trygve_W_Nodeland-20241031082700"></span>Ja, vi skulle gjerne hatt noen artikler om dette, evt. å utvide omtale i artikler som <a href="/wiki/Pyramidespill" title="Pyramidespill">pyramidespill</a> og <a href="/wiki/Ponzi-svindel" title="Ponzi-svindel">Ponzi-svindel</a>. Utfordringen er at det er en god del variasjon hvilken praksis den enkelte jurisdiksjon har, både i varslenes form/innhold, hvilket departement/tilsyn som har ansvaret i den enkelte jurisdiksjon, og terskelen for å utstede dem. F.eks. har Russlands sentralbank lav terskel for å utstede slike varsler, mens det i Norge er høy terskel. I noen jurisdiksjoner er det også praksis å utstede en såkalt <i>cease and desist</i> der det i tillegg til advarsel til egne borgere gis en instruks om opphør av virksomheten, mens det i Sverige er mer vanlig med politianmeldelse. Det vanligste er at det kun er en enkelt jurisdiksjon som utsteder advarsel, og at øvrige jurisdiksjoner nøyer seg med å referere til disse slik at de f.eks. blir listet opp hos Finanstilsynet (uten at de har gjort noen selvstendig vurdering). Når virksomheten skjer i særlig omfang kan likevel flere jurisdiksjoner utstede varsler om samme selskap. De to antatt største konseptene de siste ti år (<a href="/wiki/OneCoin" title="OneCoin">OneCoin</a> og <a href="/wiki/OmegaPro" title="OmegaPro">OmegaPro</a>) har mottatt slike varsler fra hhv. 25 og 8 jurisdiksjoner, da snakker vi om flere milliarder dollar i omfang. OneCoin har det vært massiv medieoppmerksomhet rundt, mens det er relativt beskjedent om OmegaPro. Når EndoTech og deres to frontselskaper har mottatt 7 slike varsler, er det en sterk indikasjon på at omfanget er omfattende. Jeg har ikke klart å finne omsetningstall for EndoTech eller Daisy Global, men iGenius har ifølge kilder hatt en årlig omsetning på rundt 50 millioner dollar, penger som da har blitt spolt gjennom EndoTech sin investeringsteknologi. <a href="/wiki/Bruker:Cavernia" title="Bruker:Cavernia">-- cavernia --</a> (<a href="/wiki/Brukerdiskusjon:Cavernia" title="Brukerdiskusjon:Cavernia">diskusjon</a>) <a href="https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sletting/EndoTech#c-Cavernia-20241101135400-Trygve_W_Nodeland-20241031082700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">1. nov. 2024 kl. 14:54 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cavernia-20241101135400-Trygve_W_Nodeland-20241031082700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svar</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cavernia-20241101135400-Trygve_W_Nodeland-20241031082700"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trygve_W_Nodeland-20241103092100-Cavernia-20241101135400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Bruker:Cavernia" title="Bruker:Cavernia">Cavernia</a>:</span> Interessant. De opplysningene du her nevner er nok slike som hjelper oss til å vurdere betydningen av det enkelte selskapet. - Jeg er på en øy. Men ligger øya i Mjøsa, eller er den i Stillehavet? Vi må ha noe å relatere den enkelte artikkelen til. Kildebelagt, selvsagt. Lykke til! --<a href="/wiki/Bruker:Trygve_W_Nodeland" title="Bruker:Trygve W Nodeland">Trygve Nodeland</a> (<a href="/wiki/Brukerdiskusjon:Trygve_W_Nodeland" title="Brukerdiskusjon:Trygve W Nodeland">diskusjon</a>) <a href="https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sletting/EndoTech#c-Trygve_W_Nodeland-20241103092100-Cavernia-20241101135400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">3. nov. 2024 kl. 10:21 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trygve_W_Nodeland-20241103092100-Cavernia-20241101135400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svar</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trygve_W_Nodeland-20241103092100-Cavernia-20241101135400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Erik_den_yngre-20241101093400-Cavernia-20241030115300"></span>Hva jeg forstår og ikke forstår er uten betydning, det er dokumentasjon som teller og som jeg etterlyser. Uansett er det ikke bra for arbeidsmiljøet med slik nedlatende kommentarer. Ja jeg har tatt opp saken på artikkelens diskusjonsside. Nei det handler ikke om å vinne en diskusjon, det handler om å avklare saken. Jeg utfordret deg på artikkelens diskusjonsside uten at det fremkom noe vesentlig nytt, dermed er det tydelig at dette i praksis er gjenopprettelse av slettet artikkel og kunne dermed gått til hurtigslett. Omkamp etter 1 måned er ikke god skikk og Trygve har foreslått 5 år sperrefrist.</dd> <dd>De fleste kildene er obskure og av ukjent kvalitet, blant annet noen blogger. Et unntak er et dokument (PDF) fra belgiske finansmyndigheter. <a href="/wiki/Handelsblatt" title="Handelsblatt">Handelsblatt</a> og dansk TV2 er de eneste mainstream media jeg får øye på, men der er ikke EndoTech nevnt. Hilsen <i><a href="/wiki/Bruker:Erik_den_yngre" title="Bruker:Erik den yngre">Erik d.y.</a></i> <a href="https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sletting/EndoTech#c-Erik_den_yngre-20241101093400-Cavernia-20241030115300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">1. nov. 2024 kl. 10:34 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Erik_den_yngre-20241101093400-Cavernia-20241030115300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svar</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Erik_den_yngre-20241101093400-Cavernia-20241030115300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cavernia-20241101135800-Erik_den_yngre-20241101093400"></span>Oversatt fra artikkelen i tyske Handelsblatt: "Og likevel er det kunder som skryter av Endotech – også fordi de får betalt for det. I tillegg til iGenius er det et annet MLM-system som ønsker å tiltrekke investorer til Endotech: Det heter Daisy." <a href="/wiki/Bruker:Cavernia" title="Bruker:Cavernia">-- cavernia --</a> (<a href="/wiki/Brukerdiskusjon:Cavernia" title="Brukerdiskusjon:Cavernia">diskusjon</a>) <a href="https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sletting/EndoTech#c-Cavernia-20241101135800-Erik_den_yngre-20241101093400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">1. nov. 2024 kl. 14:58 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cavernia-20241101135800-Erik_den_yngre-20241101093400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svar</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cavernia-20241101135800-Erik_den_yngre-20241101093400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Proletar68-20241105111400-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600"></span>Svak <span class="slettegrafikk"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fil:Symbol_keep_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span></span> <b>Behold</b> Burde hatt mer medieomtale, men mener personlig at denne typen «business» er noe vi bør dekke. <a href="/wiki/Bruker:Proletar68" title="Bruker:Proletar68">Proletar68</a> (<a href="/wiki/Brukerdiskusjon:Proletar68" title="Brukerdiskusjon:Proletar68">diskusjon</a>) <a href="https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sletting/EndoTech#c-Proletar68-20241105111400-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">5. nov. 2024 kl. 12:14 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Proletar68-20241105111400-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svar</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Proletar68-20241105111400-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Erik_den_yngre-20241124115400-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600"></span><span title="–" style="display:inline-block; text-align:center;" class="mw-discussion-thanks slettegrafikk"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fil:Symbol_comment_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> <b>Kommentar</b> </span> Jeg ble nylig blokkert for angivelig omgåelse av sletteprosess. EndoTech er et eksempel på at nylig slettet artikkel i praksis blir gjennopprettet under nytt navn, vanskelig å oppfatte som noe annet enn et blatant forsøk på omgåelse. Det tar seg ikke godt ut med forskjellsbehandling her. Det fremgår lite substansielt nytt sammenlignet med slettet artikkel. Det er mye detaljer i artikkelen, men ikke noe som viser at dette er relevant feks ikke tilført informasjon om størrelse eller omfang av bedriften. EndoTech er nevnt i forbifarten i en artikkel som handler om iGenius. Artikkelen burde vært hurtigslettet. Her mener jeg administratorene bør skjære gjennom. Hilsen <i><a href="/wiki/Bruker:Erik_den_yngre" title="Bruker:Erik den yngre">Erik d.y.</a></i> <a href="https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sletting/EndoTech#c-Erik_den_yngre-20241124115400-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24. nov. 2024 kl. 12:54 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Erik_den_yngre-20241124115400-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svar</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Erik_den_yngre-20241124115400-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trygve_W_Nodeland-20241124151100-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600"></span><span class="slettegrafikk"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fil:Symbol_keep_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span></span> <b>Behold</b> Artikkelen ble slettet etter at hovedforfatteren blant annet hadde skrevet at «Endotech derimot er fortsatt operativt, og det er strengt tatt her kjernevirksomheten foregår som D.AI.SY har vært en markedsfront for ». Det foreligger altså et faktisk grunnlag for forskjellsbehandling av artiklene. Noen mener at dette er relevant fordi det angivelig viser et viktig samfunnsfenomen. Det er ikke feil det som står, og vi må bli ferdig med dette. Jeg lar tvilen komme folkeopplysningen til gode. <a href="/wiki/Bruker:Trygve_W_Nodeland" title="Bruker:Trygve W Nodeland">Trygve Nodeland</a> (<a href="/wiki/Brukerdiskusjon:Trygve_W_Nodeland" title="Brukerdiskusjon:Trygve W Nodeland">diskusjon</a>) <a href="https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sletting/EndoTech#c-Trygve_W_Nodeland-20241124151100-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24. nov. 2024 kl. 16:11 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trygve_W_Nodeland-20241124151100-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svar</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trygve_W_Nodeland-20241124151100-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Erik_den_yngre-20241124174100-Trygve_W_Nodeland-20241124151100"></span>Artiklene omhandler i praksis det samme. Forskjellsbehandlingen består blant annet i omkamper på slettesaker normalt ikke blir akseptert etter kort (Trygve foreslo selv en lang sperrefrist) eller uten vesentlige forhold. WP behandler nåværende og historiske forhold likt, så det har ingen betydning om EndoTech er operativ eller ikke. Per nåværende innhold har denne artikkelen ingenting på WP å gjøre. Start heller en blogg dersom man ønsker å fotefølge disse obskure virksomhetene. Snirklete detaljopplysninger om enkeltselskaper belyser ikke et samfunnsfenomen, lag heller en skikkelig hovedartikkel om fenomenet generelt basert på gode faglige kilder. Hilsen <i><a href="/wiki/Bruker:Erik_den_yngre" title="Bruker:Erik den yngre">Erik d.y.</a></i> <a href="https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sletting/EndoTech#c-Erik_den_yngre-20241124174100-Trygve_W_Nodeland-20241124151100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24. nov. 2024 kl. 18:41 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Erik_den_yngre-20241124174100-Trygve_W_Nodeland-20241124151100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svar</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Erik_den_yngre-20241124174100-Trygve_W_Nodeland-20241124151100"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cavernia-20241124180500-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600"></span><span class="slettegrafikk"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Fil:Symbol_keep_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span></span> <b>Behold</b> Per Trygve Nodeland. --<a href="/wiki/Bruker:Cavernia" title="Bruker:Cavernia">-- cavernia --</a> (<a href="/wiki/Brukerdiskusjon:Cavernia" title="Brukerdiskusjon:Cavernia">diskusjon</a>) <a href="https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sletting/EndoTech#c-Cavernia-20241124180500-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">24. nov. 2024 kl. 19:05 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cavernia-20241124180500-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svar</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cavernia-20241124180500-Erik_den_yngre-20241030091600"></span></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Hentet fra «<a dir="ltr" href="https://no.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sletting/EndoTech&oldid=24818929">https://no.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sletting/EndoTech&oldid=24818929</a>»</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Kategori:Kategorier" title="Kategori:Kategorier">Kategori</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Kategori:Slettediskusjoner" title="Kategori:Slettediskusjoner">Slettediskusjoner</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> Denne siden ble sist redigert 24. nov. 2024 kl. 19:05.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Innholdet er tilgjengelig under <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.no">Creative Commons-lisensen Navngivelse-DelPåSammeVilkår</a>, men ytterligere betingelser kan gjelde. 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