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For guidelines on this template's usage, see its documentation.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Books</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Books</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Books</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">Book articles</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Loafiewa-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-'Nonfiction'-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Loafiewa-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z-'Nonfiction'"],"text":"'Nonfiction'","linkableTitle":"'Nonfiction'"}--><h2 id="'Nonfiction'" data-mw-thread-id="h-'Nonfiction'-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z"><span id=".27Nonfiction.27"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-'Nonfiction'-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z"></span>'Nonfiction'<span data-mw-comment-end="h-'Nonfiction'-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Emil_Cioran&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: 'Nonfiction'"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Loafiewa-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-'Nonfiction'-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Loafiewa-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z-'Nonfiction'"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-MinnesotanUser-2022-03-02T04:48:00.000Z-MinnesotanUser-2022-03-02T04:40:00.000Z","timestamp":"2022-03-02T04:48:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Loafiewa-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-'Nonfiction'-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Loafiewa-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z-'Nonfiction'"],"text":"'Nonfiction'","linkableTitle":"'Nonfiction'"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Loafiewa-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z-'Nonfiction'"></span>Is it redundant to put in a parameter that denotes Cioran's non-fiction works, as all of his works are non-fiction? I ask because I'm not really sure how templates work, so there might be something I'm missing here. <a href="/wiki/User:Loafiewa" title="User:Loafiewa">Loafiewa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Loafiewa" title="User talk:Loafiewa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Emil_Cioran#c-Loafiewa-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z-'Nonfiction'" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:07, 23 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Loafiewa-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z-'Nonfiction'"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z","author":"Loafiewa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Loafiewa-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z-'Nonfiction'","replies":["c-MinnesotanUser-2022-03-02T04:40:00.000Z-Loafiewa-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Loafiewa-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z-'Nonfiction'"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MinnesotanUser-2022-03-02T04:40:00.000Z-Loafiewa-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z"></span>First, thanks for creating the current template (and the recently-created article on All Gall is Divided). In the past I considered making a small Cioran template exactly as you've done, but I hesitated over concerns about notability and lack of material needing organizing (only three short book-articles)-and now there's four book-articles! I don't think there's any harm in making individual articles for Cioran's lesser-known books (and a template around same), but I still suspect that some of the books might be better treated as a section in a given article, or later merged somewhere.</li></ul> <ul><li>Cioran's work might be "non-fiction" in the very broad sense that philosophy is non-fiction, (despite its speculative character). Still, it falls into several literary genres: aphorisms, lit crit, and other things.</li></ul> <ul><li>With respect to your original question, "nonfiction" is probably a superfluous description. Wikipedia templates are used for several purposes, and this one, a "bottom-navbox" is usually intended as a simple navigational aid for related articles around a given subject. Ideally, such a box keeps things "as simple as possible", stating the main subject at the top and then working out the details in the body of the template. For that reason, after this note, I'll edit the template a bit.<a href="/wiki/User:MinnesotanUser" title="User:MinnesotanUser">MinnesotanUser</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MinnesotanUser" title="User talk:MinnesotanUser">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Emil_Cioran#c-MinnesotanUser-2022-03-02T04:40:00.000Z-Loafiewa-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:40, 2 March 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MinnesotanUser-2022-03-02T04:40:00.000Z-Loafiewa-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-03-02T04:40:00.000Z","author":"MinnesotanUser","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MinnesotanUser-2022-03-02T04:40:00.000Z-Loafiewa-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-MinnesotanUser-2022-03-02T04:48:00.000Z-MinnesotanUser-2022-03-02T04:40:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MinnesotanUser-2022-03-02T04:40:00.000Z-Loafiewa-2021-11-23T15:07:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MinnesotanUser-2022-03-02T04:48:00.000Z-MinnesotanUser-2022-03-02T04:40:00.000Z"></span>Ugh, it appears that another user started the current template, my bad. <a href="/wiki/User:MinnesotanUser" title="User:MinnesotanUser">MinnesotanUser</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MinnesotanUser" title="User talk:MinnesotanUser">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Emil_Cioran#c-MinnesotanUser-2022-03-02T04:48:00.000Z-MinnesotanUser-2022-03-02T04:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:48, 2 March 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MinnesotanUser-2022-03-02T04:48:00.000Z-MinnesotanUser-2022-03-02T04:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-03-02T04:48:00.000Z","author":"MinnesotanUser","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-MinnesotanUser-2022-03-02T04:48:00.000Z-MinnesotanUser-2022-03-02T04:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MinnesotanUser-2022-03-02T04:48:00.000Z-MinnesotanUser-2022-03-02T04:40:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐57488d5c7d‐qn2bd Cached time: 20241128011945 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.012 seconds CPU time usage: 0.233 seconds Real time usage: 0.294 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 1463/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 18881/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 2314/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 14/100 Expensive parser function count: 32/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 19439/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.120/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 2077894/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 246.071 1 -total 52.72% 129.721 1 Template:Talk_page_header 47.24% 116.254 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 28.98% 71.314 1 Template:WikiProject_Philosophy 15.07% 37.081 2 Template:Pagetype 14.40% 35.429 1 Template:Yearly_archive_list 12.51% 30.792 1 Template:For_loop 7.94% 19.543 23 Template:Ifexist_not_redirect 6.22% 15.300 1 Template:WikiProject_Books 0.77% 1.898 1 Template:Void --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:69343455:|#|:idhash:canonical and timestamp 20241128011945 and revision id 1230518584. 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