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Once again, welcome, and I hope you quickly feel comfortable here, and become an active editor for Wikidata.</p> <p>Best regards! <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Jon Harald Søby">Jon Harald Søby</a> (<a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Jon Harald Søby"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Wikimi-dhiann?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Jon_Harald_Søby-2015-02-16T14:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:49, 16 February 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jon_Harald_Søby-2015-02-16T14:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" 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<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> <!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Cooper2222-2017-12-06T04:14:00.000Z-Wikimi-dhiann-2017-12-05T09:56:00.000Z","timestamp":"2017-12-06T04:14:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--> </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"> <!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cooper2222-2017-12-03T21:45:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-About_the_word_\"art\"_in_east_Asian_languages-2017-12-03T21:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cooper2222-2017-12-03T21:45:00.000Z-About_the_word_\"art\"_in_east_Asian_languages"],"text":"About the word \"art\" in east Asian languages","linkableTitle":"About the word \"art\" in east Asian languages"}--> </div> </div> </div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cooper2222-2017-12-03T21:45:00.000Z-About_the_word_"art"_in_east_Asian_languages"></span>Hi. I saw your changes regarding to how should the word "art" be linked to words in east Asian languages. And I want to discuss this with you.</p> <p>The Chinese word "美術" or "美术", Japanese word "美術", Korean "미술", Vietnamese "mỹ thuật" are cognates, meaning visual arts, such as drawing, painting, sculpture, etc.</p> <p>And the Chinese word "藝術" or "艺术", Japanese word "芸術", Korean "예술", Vietnamese "nghệ thuật" are cognates, meaning all forms of arts, including visual arts, and dance, music, etc.</p> <p>Generally both of these two sets of words are translated into English as "art". But they have actually very different meanings as shown above.</p> <p>The problem is that the English "art" is ambiguous, it can either mean the first or the second, in English contexts. I don't know other western languages, but I think they may be similar to English.</p> <p>Actually I think it's a pretty stupid idea to require words in different languages to be linked to the same concept as Wikidata does, because I believe different languages have different sets of concepts, and the words representing those concepts cannot always be directly linked to each other. This "art" issue is just an example. There are other cases, too.</p> <p>I tried to fix this problem by creating a specific Wikidata item for the first set of words in these languages, because I didn't think the English word "art" was related to the first set of words and I thought it was more related to the second set of words.</p> <p>But I see you merged the item I created to "art", so I want to know what you think.</p> <p>Thanks.</p> <p><a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Cooper2222&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Cooper2222 (page does not exist)">Cooper2222</a> (<a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Cooper2222?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Cooper2222"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Wikimi-dhiann?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Cooper2222-2017-12-03T21:45:00.000Z-About_the_word_"art"_in_east_Asian_languages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:45, 3 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cooper2222-2017-12-03T21:45:00.000Z-About_the_word_"art"_in_east_Asian_languages"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Wikimi-dhiann?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-12-03T21:45:00.000Z","author":"Cooper2222","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cooper2222-2017-12-03T21:45:00.000Z-About_the_word_\"art\"_in_east_Asian_languages","replies":["c-Wikimi-dhiann-2017-12-05T09:56:00.000Z-Cooper2222-2017-12-03T21:45:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cooper2222-2017-12-03T21:45:00.000Z-About_the_word_"art"_in_east_Asian_languages"></span></p> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wikimi-dhiann-2017-12-05T09:56:00.000Z-Cooper2222-2017-12-03T21:45:00.000Z"></span>Dear Cooper2222, Thank you for your comment.(^-^) <ol> <li>You can remove "美術" and "藝術", and you can create "Meishu". I think either is okay after reading your opinion.</li> <li>I think the Chinese word "藝術種類" corresponds to <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Q1792379?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Q1792379">art genre <small>(Q1792379)</small></a> rather than <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Q2018526?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Q2018526">arts <small>(Q2018526)</small></a>, even though it is the translated article. Please see also <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/de:Kunstgattung" class="extiw" title="w:de:Kunstgattung">w:de:Kunstgattung</a> and <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/es:G%25C3%25A9nero_art%25C3%25ADstico" class="extiw" title="w:es:Género artístico">w:es:Género artístico</a>.</li> </ol> </dd> <dd> Respectfully yours, -<a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Wikimi-dhiann?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Wikimi-dhiann">Wikimi-dhiann</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Wikimi-dhiann?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Wikimi-dhiann-2017-12-05T09:56:00.000Z-Cooper2222-2017-12-03T21:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:56, 5 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wikimi-dhiann-2017-12-05T09:56:00.000Z-Cooper2222-2017-12-03T21:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Wikimi-dhiann?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-12-05T09:56:00.000Z","author":"Wikimi-dhiann","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wikimi-dhiann-2017-12-05T09:56:00.000Z-Cooper2222-2017-12-03T21:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cooper2222-2017-12-06T04:14:00.000Z-Wikimi-dhiann-2017-12-05T09:56:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wikimi-dhiann-2017-12-05T09:56:00.000Z-Cooper2222-2017-12-03T21:45:00.000Z"></span> </dd> </dl> <dl> <dd> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cooper2222-2017-12-06T04:14:00.000Z-Wikimi-dhiann-2017-12-05T09:56:00.000Z"></span>Yeah. I agree with you. It's better for "藝術種類" to be linked to <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Q1792379?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Q1792379">art genre <small>(Q1792379)</small></a>. Thanks for noting this. ^-^ --<a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Cooper2222&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Cooper2222 (page does not exist)">Cooper2222</a> (<a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Cooper2222?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Cooper2222"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Wikimi-dhiann?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Cooper2222-2017-12-06T04:14:00.000Z-Wikimi-dhiann-2017-12-05T09:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:14, 6 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cooper2222-2017-12-06T04:14:00.000Z-Wikimi-dhiann-2017-12-05T09:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Wikimi-dhiann?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-12-06T04:14:00.000Z","author":"Cooper2222","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cooper2222-2017-12-06T04:14:00.000Z-Wikimi-dhiann-2017-12-05T09:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cooper2222-2017-12-06T04:14:00.000Z-Wikimi-dhiann-2017-12-05T09:56:00.000Z"></span> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"> <!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-WMF_Surveys-2018-03-29T18:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Share_your_experience_and_feedback_as_a_Wikimedian_in_this_global_survey-2018-03-29T18:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-WMF_Surveys-2018-03-29T18:56:00.000Z-Share_your_experience_and_feedback_as_a_Wikimedian_in_this_global_survey"],"text":"Share your experience and feedback as a Wikimedian in this global survey","linkableTitle":"Share your experience and feedback as a Wikimedian in this global survey"}--> <h2 id="Share_your_experience_and_feedback_as_a_Wikimedian_in_this_global_survey" data-mw-thread-id="h-Share_your_experience_and_feedback_as_a_Wikimedian_in_this_global_survey-2018-03-29T18:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Share_your_experience_and_feedback_as_a_Wikimedian_in_this_global_survey-2018-03-29T18:56:00.000Z"></span>Share your experience and feedback as a Wikimedian in this global survey<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Share_your_experience_and_feedback_as_a_Wikimedian_in_this_global_survey-2018-03-29T18:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wikimi-dhiann&action=edit&section=2&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Share your experience and feedback as a Wikimedian in this global survey"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-WMF_Surveys-2018-03-29T18:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Share_your_experience_and_feedback_as_a_Wikimedian_in_this_global_survey-2018-03-29T18:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-WMF_Surveys-2018-03-29T18:56:00.000Z-Share_your_experience_and_feedback_as_a_Wikimedian_in_this_global_survey"]}}--> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> <!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-WMF_Surveys-2018-03-29T18:56:00.000Z-Share_your_experience_and_feedback_as_a_Wikimedian_in_this_global_survey","timestamp":"2018-03-29T18:56:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--> </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"> <!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-WMF_Surveys-2018-03-29T18:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Share_your_experience_and_feedback_as_a_Wikimedian_in_this_global_survey-2018-03-29T18:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-WMF_Surveys-2018-03-29T18:56:00.000Z-Share_your_experience_and_feedback_as_a_Wikimedian_in_this_global_survey"],"text":"Share your experience and feedback as a Wikimedian in this global survey","linkableTitle":"Share your experience and feedback as a Wikimedian in this global survey"}--> </div> </div> </div> <div class="mw-parser-output"> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WMF_Surveys-2018-03-29T18:56:00.000Z-Share_your_experience_and_feedback_as_a_Wikimedian_in_this_global_survey"></span>Hello! 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Thanks!</p> </div><span class="mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:WMF_Surveys" class="extiw" title="m:User:WMF Surveys">WMF Surveys</a></span>, <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Wikimi-dhiann?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-WMF_Surveys-2018-04-13T01:39:00.000Z-Reminder:_Share_your_feedback_in_this_Wikimedia_survey" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:39, 13 April 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WMF_Surveys-2018-04-13T01:39:00.000Z-Reminder:_Share_your_feedback_in_this_Wikimedia_survey"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Wikimi-dhiann?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-04-13T01:39:00.000Z","author":"WMF Surveys","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WMF_Surveys-2018-04-13T01:39:00.000Z-Reminder:_Share_your_feedback_in_this_Wikimedia_survey","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WMF_Surveys-2018-04-13T01:39:00.000Z-Reminder:_Share_your_feedback_in_this_Wikimedia_survey"></span> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"> <!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Peter_F._Patel-Schneider-20241022004000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-organization_(Q43229)-20241022004000","replies":["c-Peter_F._Patel-Schneider-20241022004000-organization_(Q43229)"],"text":"organization (Q43229)","linkableTitle":"organization (Q43229)"}--> <h2 id="organization_(Q43229)" data-mw-thread-id="h-organization_(Q43229)-20241022004000"><span id="organization_.28Q43229.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-organization_(Q43229)-20241022004000"></span><a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/Q43229?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Q43229">organization <small>(Q43229)</small></a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-organization_(Q43229)-20241022004000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wikimi-dhiann&action=edit&section=4&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: organization (Q43229)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Peter_F._Patel-Schneider-20241022004000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-organization_(Q43229)-20241022004000","replies":["c-Peter_F._Patel-Schneider-20241022004000-organization_(Q43229)"]}}--> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> <!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Peter_F._Patel-Schneider-20241022004000-organization_(Q43229)","timestamp":"20241022004000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--> </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"> <!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Peter_F._Patel-Schneider-20241022004000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-organization_(Q43229)-20241022004000","replies":["c-Peter_F._Patel-Schneider-20241022004000-organization_(Q43229)"],"text":"organization (Q43229)","linkableTitle":"organization (Q43229)"}--> </div> </div> </div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peter_F._Patel-Schneider-20241022004000-organization_(Q43229)"></span>How can an organization be part of a group of humans? For example, what group of humans is General Motors a part of? <a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Peter_F._Patel-Schneider?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Peter F. Patel-Schneider">Peter F. Patel-Schneider</a> (<a href="https://www-wikidata-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Peter_F._Patel-Schneider?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Peter F. 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