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href="#Sottopaginazione">Sottopaginazione</a></div></div></div> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="it" dir="ltr"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ordine_cronologico_o_alfabetico" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ordine_cronologico_o_alfabetico-2012-01-21T09:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ordine_cronologico_o_alfabetico-2012-01-21T09:50:00.000Z"></span>Ordine cronologico o alfabetico<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ordine_cronologico_o_alfabetico-2012-01-21T09:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussione:Roger_Federer&action=edit&section=1" title="Modifica la sezione Ordine cronologico o alfabetico"><span>modifica</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Ultimo commento: <a href="#c-Spinoziano-2012-08-13T12:38:00.000Z-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-25T09:42:00.000Z">12 anni fa</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>4 commenti</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 partecipanti alla discussione</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-21T09:50:00.000Z-Ordine_cronologico_o_alfabetico"></span>Continuo qui la discussione iniziata <a href="/wiki/Wikiquote:Vetrina/Segnalazioni/Archivio_2012#Roger_Federer" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikiquote:Vetrina/Segnalazioni/Archivio 2012">durante la proposta per la vetrinizzazione</a>. L'ordine attuale delle citazioni nella voce è quello alfabetico, tuttavia sono dell'avviso che l'ordine cronologico adoperato in <a class="external text" href="https://it.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:AssassinsCreed/SandboxFederer&oldid=459277">questa sandbox</a> si adatti meglio al tipo di voce. L'ordine cronologico infatti permetterebbe al lettore di capire meglio a quale periodo della carriera si riferisce la citazione e i template sarebbero un ulteriore aiuto in questo senso.--<a href="/wiki/Utente:AssassinsCreed" title="Utente:AssassinsCreed">AssassinsCreed</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussioni_utente:AssassinsCreed" title="Discussioni utente:AssassinsCreed">scrivimi</a>) <a href="https://it.wikiquote.org/wiki/Discussione:Roger_Federer#c-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-21T09:50:00.000Z-Ordine_cronologico_o_alfabetico" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:50, 21 gen 2012 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-21T09:50:00.000Z-Ordine_cronologico_o_alfabetico"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Rispondi","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Rispondi</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-21T09:50:00.000Z-Ordine_cronologico_o_alfabetico"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nemo_bis-2012-01-23T19:56:00.000Z-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-21T09:50:00.000Z"></span>L'ordine cronologico va benissimo e anche la suddivisione in sezioni non è controversa. I template però non sono appropriati, come <a class="external text" href="https://it.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Wikiquote:Bar&oldid=450774#Roger_Federer_-_pareri_e_vetrina">detto al bar</a>. <a href="/wiki/Utente:Nemo_bis" title="Utente:Nemo bis">Nemo</a> <a href="https://it.wikiquote.org/wiki/Discussione:Roger_Federer#c-Nemo_bis-2012-01-23T19:56:00.000Z-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-21T09:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:56, 23 gen 2012 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nemo_bis-2012-01-23T19:56:00.000Z-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-21T09:50:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Rispondi","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Rispondi</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nemo_bis-2012-01-23T19:56:00.000Z-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-21T09:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-25T09:42:00.000Z-Nemo_bis-2012-01-23T19:56:00.000Z"></span>Per quanto riguarda i template, come non detto, pensavo semplicemente che potesse essere una comodità per il lettore. Suppongo che neanche l'alternate sia appropriato.--<a href="/wiki/Utente:AssassinsCreed" title="Utente:AssassinsCreed">AssassinsCreed</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussioni_utente:AssassinsCreed" title="Discussioni utente:AssassinsCreed">scrivimi</a>) <a href="https://it.wikiquote.org/wiki/Discussione:Roger_Federer#c-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-25T09:42:00.000Z-Nemo_bis-2012-01-23T19:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:42, 25 gen 2012 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-25T09:42:00.000Z-Nemo_bis-2012-01-23T19:56:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Rispondi","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Rispondi</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-25T09:42:00.000Z-Nemo_bis-2012-01-23T19:56:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinoziano-2012-08-13T12:38:00.000Z-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-25T09:42:00.000Z"></span>Dunque, io ero d'accordo alla possibilità di poter scegliere tra un ordine e l'altro: il problema è trovare un modo. Ho notato su en.pedia un template che potrebbe tornarci utile (dico <i>potrebbe</i>, perché non approfondito più di tanto) alla voce <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:List_of_video_games_featuring_Mario" class="extiw" title="w:en:List of video games featuring Mario">w:en:List of video games featuring Mario</a>: cliccando sulle freccette accanto a "Title", "Year", "System", "Genre", l'ordine cambia secondo quei criteri. --<a href="/wiki/Utente:Spinoziano" title="Utente:Spinoziano">Spinoziano</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Spinoziano" title="Discussioni utente:Spinoziano">scrivimi</a>) <a href="https://it.wikiquote.org/wiki/Discussione:Roger_Federer#c-Spinoziano-2012-08-13T12:38:00.000Z-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-25T09:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:38, 13 ago 2012 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinoziano-2012-08-13T12:38:00.000Z-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-25T09:42:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Rispondi","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Rispondi</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinoziano-2012-08-13T12:38:00.000Z-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-25T09:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sottopaginazione" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sottopaginazione-2012-01-23T19:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sottopaginazione-2012-01-23T19:56:00.000Z"></span>Sottopaginazione<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sottopaginazione-2012-01-23T19:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Discussione:Roger_Federer&action=edit&section=2" title="Modifica la sezione Sottopaginazione"><span>modifica</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Ultimo commento: <a href="#c-Spinoziano-2012-08-14T18:17:00.000Z-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-25T09:42:00.000Z">12 anni fa</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 commenti</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 partecipanti alla discussione</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nemo_bis-2012-01-23T19:56:00.000Z-Sottopaginazione"></span>Non ho capito perché sottopaginare le citazioni su, alla fine la voce sarebbe solo sui 100 KB e la cronologia non mi pare particolarmente indaffarata. <a href="/wiki/Utente:Nemo_bis" title="Utente:Nemo bis">Nemo</a> <a href="https://it.wikiquote.org/wiki/Discussione:Roger_Federer#c-Nemo_bis-2012-01-23T19:56:00.000Z-Sottopaginazione" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:56, 23 gen 2012 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nemo_bis-2012-01-23T19:56:00.000Z-Sottopaginazione"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Rispondi","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Rispondi</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nemo_bis-2012-01-23T19:56:00.000Z-Sottopaginazione"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-25T09:42:00.000Z-Nemo_bis-2012-01-23T19:56:00.000Z-1"></span>La sottopaginazione è stata fatta soprattutto in prospettiva futura: la voce continuerà a crescere nel corso degli anni. Avevamo pensato che prevenire fosse meglio che curare.--<a href="/wiki/Utente:AssassinsCreed" title="Utente:AssassinsCreed">AssassinsCreed</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussioni_utente:AssassinsCreed" title="Discussioni utente:AssassinsCreed">scrivimi</a>) <a href="https://it.wikiquote.org/wiki/Discussione:Roger_Federer#c-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-25T09:42:00.000Z-Nemo_bis-2012-01-23T19:56:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:42, 25 gen 2012 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-25T09:42:00.000Z-Nemo_bis-2012-01-23T19:56:00.000Z-1"><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Rispondi","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Rispondi</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-25T09:42:00.000Z-Nemo_bis-2012-01-23T19:56:00.000Z-1"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinoziano-2012-08-14T18:17:00.000Z-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-25T09:42:00.000Z"></span>Già ora lo scorporo è sicuramente giustificato, perché le pagine superano nell'insieme i 125 kB (cfr. <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Dimensione_della_voce#Linee_guida" class="extiw" title="w:Aiuto:Dimensione della voce">Linee guida</a>). --<a href="/wiki/Utente:Spinoziano" title="Utente:Spinoziano">Spinoziano</a> (<a href="/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Spinoziano" title="Discussioni utente:Spinoziano">scrivimi</a>) <a href="https://it.wikiquote.org/wiki/Discussione:Roger_Federer#c-Spinoziano-2012-08-14T18:17:00.000Z-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-25T09:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:17, 14 ago 2012 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinoziano-2012-08-14T18:17:00.000Z-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-25T09:42:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Rispondi","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Rispondi</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinoziano-2012-08-14T18:17:00.000Z-AssassinsCreed-2012-01-25T09:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Estratto da "<a dir="ltr" href="https://it.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Discussione:Roger_Federer&oldid=499157">https://it.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Discussione:Roger_Federer&oldid=499157</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> Questa pagina è stata modificata per l'ultima volta il 14 ago 2012 alle 19:17.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Il testo è disponibile secondo la <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.it">licenza Creative Commons Attribuzione-Condividi allo stesso modo</a>; possono applicarsi condizioni ulteriori. 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