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border: 1px solid #CCCCCC; margin:0.5em; background-color:white;"> <div style="padding-top: 4px; text-align: center"><big><a href="/wiki/User:Pat_Palmer" title="User:Pat Palmer">Pat Palmer</a></big><br /><a href="/wiki/File:Logo200Archivebox.jpg" class="image" title="How to use the Template:Archive box"><img alt="How to use the Template:Archive box" src="/wiki/images/thumb/b/bb/Logo200Archivebox.jpg/120px-Logo200Archivebox.jpg" decoding="async" width="120" height="46" srcset="/wiki/images/thumb/b/bb/Logo200Archivebox.jpg/180px-Logo200Archivebox.jpg 1.5x, /wiki/images/b/bb/Logo200Archivebox.jpg 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="77" /></a> </div> <div align="center"> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pat_Palmer" title="User talk:Pat Palmer">Current talk page</a></div> <div style="text-align:center"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pat_Palmer/Archive_1" title="User talk:Pat Palmer/Archive 1">Archive 1</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pat_Palmer/Archive_2" title="User talk:Pat Palmer/Archive 2">Archive 2</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pat_Palmer/Archive_3" title="User talk:Pat Palmer/Archive 3">Archive 3</a>, <a class="mw-selflink selflink">Archive 4</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pat_Palmer/Archive_5" title="User talk:Pat Palmer/Archive 5"> Archive 5</a> <br /></div> </div> <p><br /> This is Archive 4 for <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pat_Palmer" title="User talk:Pat Palmer">User_talk:Pat_Palmer</a> </p> <hr /> <div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none" /><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><span class="toctogglespan"><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></span></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#Nominations_for_Management_and_Editorial_Councils"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">Nominations for Management and Editorial Councils</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#C++_pages"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">C++ pages</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#You've_been_nominated_as_a_candidate_in_the_June_2015_election"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">You've been nominated as a candidate in the June 2015 election</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#I'm_still_here"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">I'm still here</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#Reply"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">Reply</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#You've_been_nominated_as_a_candidate_in_the_June_2016_election"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">You've been nominated as a candidate in the June 2016 election</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7"><a href="#You've_been_nominated_as_a_candidate_in_the_June_2016_election_2"><span class="tocnumber">7</span> <span class="toctext">You've been nominated as a candidate in the June 2016 election</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-8"><a href="#Shutting_down_CZ?_Please_look_at_the_following_discussion_and_give_us_your_input"><span class="tocnumber">8</span> <span class="toctext">Shutting down CZ? Please look at the following discussion and give us your input</span></a></li> </ul> </div> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Nominations_for_Management_and_Editorial_Councils">Nominations for Management and Editorial Councils</span></h2> <p>You have been nominated for seats on both the Management and Editorial Councils in the <a href="/wiki/CZ:Election_July-August_2013" title="CZ:Election July-August 2013">July-August Special Election</a>. The nominator was myself. To accept or decline these nominations, please visit the Nominations page <a href="/wiki/CZ:Election_July-August_2013/Nominations#Management_Council_candidates_and_links_to_their_Statements" title="CZ:Election July-August 2013/Nominations">here</a> (for the Management Council seat) and <a href="/wiki/CZ:Election_July-August_2013/Nominations#Editorial_Council_Editor_candidates_and_links_to_their_Statements" title="CZ:Election July-August 2013/Nominations">here</a> (for the Editorial Council Editor seat) by midnight UTC on July 27th. You may write an election statement for each if you wish (linked from the Nominations page). </p><p>The Management Council seat runs until June 30th, 2014 or June 30th, 2015 (the successful candidate with the fewest votes receiving the shorter term) and the Editorial Council seat expires on December 31st, 2014. In the event that <a href="/wiki/CZ:Election_July-August_2013/Referenda/1" title="CZ:Election July-August 2013/Referenda/1">Referendum 1</a> is passed, all seats will expire on June 30th, 2014. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:John_Stephenson" title="User:John Stephenson">John Stephenson</a> 17:02, 22 July 2013 (UTC) </p> <h2><span id="C.2B.2B_pages"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="C++_pages">C++ pages</span></h2> <p>Hi - can you look at <a href="/wiki/index.php?title=Category:C%2B%2B&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:C++ (page does not exist)">this unofficial redlink category</a> and see what to do about those pages. We don't use categories in this way. I'm not sure if the pages should be subpaginated, converted to /Catalogs/ subpages (of <a href="/wiki/C%2B%2B" title="C++">C++</a>?), moved somewhere else, or what. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:John_Stephenson" title="User:John Stephenson">John Stephenson</a> 14:00, 2 October 2013 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>Those pages are certainly odd. They seem to be code include files used to make the three .png files of plots. I would just leave them alone for now, lest the changes break something. When we get more editors in future, these could use a revisit.<a href="/wiki/User:Pat_Palmer" title="User:Pat Palmer">Pat Palmer</a> 09:21, 29 December 2013 (UTC)</dd></dl> <h2><span id="You.27ve_been_nominated_as_a_candidate_in_the_June_2015_election"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="You've_been_nominated_as_a_candidate_in_the_June_2015_election">You've been nominated as a candidate in the June 2015 election</span></h2> <p>You've been nominated as a candidate in the <a href="/wiki/User:ElectionJune2015" title="User:ElectionJune2015">June 2015 election</a>. Please visit <a href="/wiki/User:ElectionJune2015/Nominations" title="User:ElectionJune2015/Nominations">this page</a> to accept or decline the position. No action will also be treated as declining. If you accept, you may choose to write an election statement - see the election page for further details. Alternatively, contact me via my Talk page or privately via e-mail. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:John_Stephenson" title="User:John Stephenson">John Stephenson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:John_Stephenson" title="User talk:John Stephenson">talk</a>) 13:25, 30 May 2015 (UTC) </p> <h2><span id="I.27m_still_here"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="I'm_still_here">I'm still here</span></h2> <p>Although I've been away for awhile, I'm still around and may be coming back to the project for occasional writing. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Reply">Reply</span></h2> <p>Since you ask, Bhikkhu. That's just Pali for what tends to be translated as monk. Actually, they're, at least in theory, more like friars (e.g. Franciscans) than monks (e.g. Benedictines), but the English Protestants who did the early translations weren't too well up on the differences between types of Catholic religious orders. </p><p>If you're interested in reading more of what I've had to say on the Pali Canon, you can follow the links from my user page to Wikinfo and Wikisage, where I've adopted different approaches to fit the nature of those sites. All three are WIP, of course. <a href="/wiki/User:Peter_Jackson" title="User:Peter Jackson">Peter Jackson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Peter_Jackson" title="User talk:Peter Jackson">talk</a>) 09:16, 14 May 2016 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>Thank you for those links, Peter. Love the Pali Canon catalog. Will explore them!<a href="/wiki/User:Pat_Palmer" title="User:Pat Palmer">Pat Palmer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pat_Palmer" title="User talk:Pat Palmer">talk</a>) 18:21, 23 May 2016 (UTC)</dd></dl> <h2><span id="You.27ve_been_nominated_as_a_candidate_in_the_June_2016_election"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="You've_been_nominated_as_a_candidate_in_the_June_2016_election">You've been nominated as a candidate in the June 2016 election</span></h2> <p>You've been nominated as a candidate for the post of <a href="/wiki/CZ:Managing_Editor" title="CZ:Managing Editor">Managing Editor</a> in the <a href="/wiki/User:ElectionJune2016" title="User:ElectionJune2016">June 2016 election</a>. Please visit <a href="/wiki/User:ElectionJune2016/Nominations" title="User:ElectionJune2016/Nominations">this page</a> to accept or decline. No action will also be treated as declining. If you accept, you may choose to write an election statement - see the election page for further details. <a href="/wiki/User:Meg_Ireland" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Meg Ireland">Meg Ireland</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Meg_Ireland" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Meg Ireland">talk</a>) 15:18, 27 May 2016 (UTC) </p> <h2><span id="You.27ve_been_nominated_as_a_candidate_in_the_June_2016_election_2"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="You've_been_nominated_as_a_candidate_in_the_June_2016_election_2">You've been nominated as a candidate in the June 2016 election</span></h2> <p>You've been nominated as a candidate for the <a href="/wiki/CZ:Council" title="CZ:Council">Citizendium Council</a> in the <a href="/wiki/User:ElectionJune2016" title="User:ElectionJune2016">June 2016 election</a>. Please visit <a href="/wiki/User:ElectionJune2016/Nominations" title="User:ElectionJune2016/Nominations">this page</a> to accept or decline. No action will also be treated as declining. If you accept, you may choose to write an election statement - see the election page for further details. Alternatively, contact me via my Talk page or privately via e-mail. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:John_Stephenson" title="User:John Stephenson">John Stephenson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:John_Stephenson" title="User talk:John Stephenson">talk</a>) 19:14, 27 May 2016 (UTC) </p> <h2><span id="Shutting_down_CZ.3F_Please_look_at_the_following_discussion_and_give_us_your_input"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Shutting_down_CZ?_Please_look_at_the_following_discussion_and_give_us_your_input">Shutting down CZ? Please look at the following discussion and give us your input</span></h2> <p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Forum_Talk:Technical_Issues#Any_further_thoughts.3F">http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Forum_Talk:Technical_Issues#Any_further_thoughts.3F</a> thanks! 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