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(prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .ombox-speedy{background-color:#310402}}</style> <table id="archivebox" role="presentation" class="ombox ombox-notice mbox-small" style="text-align: center; padding: 1em; width:11em; background-color: #f9f9f9; box-shadow: 0px 2px 4px rgba(0,0,0,0.2); font-family: Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif; width: 11em; text-align:center;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="padding:0.6em 0 0.25em;"> <div style="width:100%; overflow:hidden;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2a/Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg/40px-Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2a/Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg/60px-Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg.png 1.5x, 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<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_5" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 5">5</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_6" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 6">6</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_7" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 7">7</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_8" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 8">8</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_9" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 9">9</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_10" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 10">10</a><br/><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_11" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 11">11</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_12" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 12">12</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_13" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 13">13</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_14" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 14">14</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_15" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 15">15</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_16" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 16">16</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_17" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 17">17</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_18" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 18">18</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_19" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 19">19</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_20" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 20">20</a><br/><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_21" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 21">21</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_22" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 22">22</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_23" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 23">23</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_24" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 24">24</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_25" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 25">25</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_26" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 26">26</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_27" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 27">27</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_28" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 28">28</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_29" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 29">29</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_30" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 30">30</a><br/><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_31" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 31">31</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_32" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 32">32</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_33" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 33">33</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_34" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 34">34</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_35" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 35">35</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive_36" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions/Archive 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Or send a news tip by email to our <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/The_Signpost" title="Special:EmailUser/The Signpost"><b>tipmail</b></a>. </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Suggestion_by_Shushugah_(2024-09-04)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Suggestion_by_Shushugah_(2024-09-04)-20240904231300"><span id="Suggestion_by_Shushugah_.282024-09-04.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Suggestion_by_Shushugah_(2024-09-04)-20240904231300"></span>Suggestion by Shushugah (2024-09-04)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Suggestion_by_Shushugah_(2024-09-04)-20240904231300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Suggestion by Shushugah (2024-09-04)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shushugah-20240904231300-Suggestion_by_Shushugah_(2024-09-04)"></span>The Signpost</i> should write about... <a href="/wiki/Internet_Archive" title="Internet Archive">Internet Archive</a> has lost its appeal in <a href="/wiki/Hachette_v._Internet_Archive" title="Hachette v. Internet Archive">Hachette v. Internet Archive</a>, the long-running, closely watched copyright case over the scanning and lending of print library books </p><p>~ 🦝 <a href="/wiki/User:Shushugah" title="User:Shushugah">Shushugah</a> (he/him • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shushugah" title="User talk:Shushugah">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#c-Shushugah-20240904231300-Suggestion_by_Shushugah_(2024-09-04)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:13, 4 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shushugah-20240904231300-Suggestion_by_Shushugah_(2024-09-04)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shushugah-20240904231300-Suggestion_by_Shushugah_(2024-09-04)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Suggestion_by_Robertsky_(2024-09-09)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Suggestion_by_Robertsky_(2024-09-09)-20240909083800"><span id="Suggestion_by_Robertsky_.282024-09-09.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Suggestion_by_Robertsky_(2024-09-09)-20240909083800"></span>Suggestion by Robertsky (2024-09-09)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Suggestion_by_Robertsky_(2024-09-09)-20240909083800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Suggestion by Robertsky (2024-09-09)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robertsky-20240909083800-Suggestion_by_Robertsky_(2024-09-09)"></span>The Signpost</i> should write about... <a href="/wiki/Asian_News_International" title="Asian News International">Asian News International</a> court case against Wikimedia Foundation. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.livemint.com/news/india/delhi-hc-warns-wikipedia-over-ani-defamation-case-issues-contempt-notice-11725517336837.html">https://www.livemint.com/news/india/delhi-hc-warns-wikipedia-over-ani-defamation-case-issues-contempt-notice-11725517336837.html</a> in the next In the news report. </p><p>A draft: India's <a href="/wiki/Asian_News_International" title="Asian News International">Asian News International</a> (ANI) has <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.livemint.com/news/india/delhi-hc-warns-wikipedia-over-ani-defamation-case-issues-contempt-notice-11725517336837.html">brought Wikimedia Foundation to the courts</a> over what they alleged to be defamatory content on the article about themselves, which <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1244740369" title="Special:PermanentLink/1244740369">currently stated</a> that they "[had] been accused of having served as a propaganda tool for the incumbent <a href="/wiki/Government_of_India" title="Government of India">central government</a>, distributing materials from a vast network of <a href="/wiki/Fake_news_in_India#Fake_news_against_Pakistan" title="Fake news in India">fake news websites</a>, and misreporting events on multiple occasions." Wikimedia Foundation is being compelled by the courts to give personal information of some editors who have edited the article. ANI as a source was determined in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_331#RfC:_Asian_News_International_(ANI)" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 331">2021 RfC</a> that for general reporting, it is between marginally reliable and generally unreliable; it should be attributed in-text for contentious claims; and generally unreliable and questionable for its coverage of domestic and international politics, and other topics that the Government of India has a stake due to reported dissemination of pro-government propaganda. (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RSPANI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RSPANI">WP:RSPANI</a>) </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Robertsky" title="User:Robertsky">– robertsky</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robertsky" title="User talk:Robertsky">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#c-Robertsky-20240909083800-Suggestion_by_Robertsky_(2024-09-09)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:38, 9 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robertsky-20240909083800-Suggestion_by_Robertsky_(2024-09-09)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robertsky-20240909083800-Suggestion_by_Robertsky_(2024-09-09)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HaeB-20240918024400-Robertsky-20240909083800"></span>Thanks, added it to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Next_issue/In_the_media" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/In the media">Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/In the media</a>, with a link to our earlier coverage in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/In_the_media" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-22/In the media">Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-22/In the media</a>.</dd> <dd>Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:HaeB" title="User:HaeB">HaeB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HaeB" title="User talk:HaeB">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#c-HaeB-20240918024400-Robertsky-20240909083800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:44, 18 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HaeB-20240918024400-Robertsky-20240909083800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HaeB-20240918024400-Robertsky-20240909083800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Suggestion_by_Novem_Linguae_(2024-09-10)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Suggestion_by_Novem_Linguae_(2024-09-10)-20240910022300"><span id="Suggestion_by_Novem_Linguae_.282024-09-10.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Suggestion_by_Novem_Linguae_(2024-09-10)-20240910022300"></span>Suggestion by Novem Linguae (2024-09-10)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Suggestion_by_Novem_Linguae_(2024-09-10)-20240910022300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Suggestion by Novem Linguae (2024-09-10)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Novem_Linguae-20240910022300-Suggestion_by_Novem_Linguae_(2024-09-10)"></span>The Signpost</i> should write about... <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrator_elections" title="Wikipedia:Administrator elections">Wikipedia:Administrator elections</a>. These are right around the corner (October) and will be a big change for enwiki. You can find a summary of some important details at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrator_elections/MMS/Election_schedule" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Administrator elections/MMS/Election schedule">Wikipedia:Administrator elections/MMS/Election schedule</a>. This probably doesn't need a whole article, but would be good to mention somewhere. –<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae"><span style="color:blue"><b>Novem Linguae</b></span></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Novem_Linguae" title="User talk:Novem Linguae">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#c-Novem_Linguae-20240910022300-Suggestion_by_Novem_Linguae_(2024-09-10)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:23, 10 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Novem_Linguae-20240910022300-Suggestion_by_Novem_Linguae_(2024-09-10)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Novem_Linguae-20240910022300-Suggestion_by_Novem_Linguae_(2024-09-10)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oltrepier-20240922204000-Novem_Linguae-20240910022300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae">Novem Linguae</a> Thank you for suggesting this: it will feature in one of the lead stories on "News and notes", courtesy of @<a href="/wiki/User:Soni" title="User:Soni">Soni</a>! : ) <a href="/wiki/User:Oltrepier" title="User:Oltrepier">Oltrepier</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oltrepier" title="User talk:Oltrepier">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#c-Oltrepier-20240922204000-Novem_Linguae-20240910022300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:40, 22 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oltrepier-20240922204000-Novem_Linguae-20240910022300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oltrepier-20240922204000-Novem_Linguae-20240910022300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Suggestion_by_SYSS_Mouse_(2024-09-16)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Suggestion_by_SYSS_Mouse_(2024-09-16)-20240916013300"><span id="Suggestion_by_SYSS_Mouse_.282024-09-16.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Suggestion_by_SYSS_Mouse_(2024-09-16)-20240916013300"></span>Suggestion by SYSS Mouse (2024-09-16)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Suggestion_by_SYSS_Mouse_(2024-09-16)-20240916013300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Suggestion by SYSS Mouse (2024-09-16)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SYSS_Mouse-20240916013300-Suggestion_by_SYSS_Mouse_(2024-09-16)"></span>The Signpost</i> should write about... South China Morning Post wrote this piece "Wikipedia bans user for ‘alleged trolling, doxxing and intimidation’ of Hong Kong journalists" </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/society/article/3278559/wikipedia-bans-user-alleged-trolling-doxxing-and-intimidation-hong-kong-journalists">https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/society/article/3278559/wikipedia-bans-user-alleged-trolling-doxxing-and-intimidation-hong-kong-journalists</a> </p><p>Cross referencing Global ban list confirms the user is Flamelai (blocked here locally in July 2023 under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTHERE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTHERE">WP:NOTHERE</a>) </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:SYSS_Mouse" title="User:SYSS Mouse">SYSS Mouse</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SYSS_Mouse" title="User talk:SYSS Mouse">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#c-SYSS_Mouse-20240916013300-Suggestion_by_SYSS_Mouse_(2024-09-16)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:33, 16 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SYSS_Mouse-20240916013300-Suggestion_by_SYSS_Mouse_(2024-09-16)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SYSS_Mouse-20240916013300-Suggestion_by_SYSS_Mouse_(2024-09-16)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HaeB-20240918022500-SYSS_Mouse-20240916013300"></span>See also <a href="https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Chinese_Wikimedian_banned_amidst_largest_%E2%80%98harassment%E2%80%99_campaign_against_Hong_Kong_journalist" class="extiw" title="n:Chinese Wikimedian banned amidst largest ‘harassment’ campaign against Hong Kong journalist">n:Chinese Wikimedian banned amidst largest ‘harassment’ campaign against Hong Kong journalist</a> (draft by <a href="/wiki/User:Cypp0847" title="User:Cypp0847">User:Cypp0847</a>). Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:HaeB" title="User:HaeB">HaeB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HaeB" title="User talk:HaeB">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#c-HaeB-20240918022500-SYSS_Mouse-20240916013300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:25, 18 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HaeB-20240918022500-SYSS_Mouse-20240916013300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HaeB-20240918022500-SYSS_Mouse-20240916013300"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oltrepier-20240922204100-SYSS_Mouse-20240916013300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:SYSS_Mouse" title="User:SYSS Mouse">SYSS Mouse</a> Thank you for suggesting this! A short piece about the global ban will feature in the "News and notes" section of the upcoming issue, so watch out for it! <a href="/wiki/User:Oltrepier" title="User:Oltrepier">Oltrepier</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oltrepier" title="User talk:Oltrepier">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#c-Oltrepier-20240922204100-SYSS_Mouse-20240916013300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:41, 22 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oltrepier-20240922204100-SYSS_Mouse-20240916013300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oltrepier-20240922204100-SYSS_Mouse-20240916013300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Suggestion_by_Ham_II_(2024-09-17)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Suggestion_by_Ham_II_(2024-09-17)-20240917192900"><span id="Suggestion_by_Ham_II_.282024-09-17.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Suggestion_by_Ham_II_(2024-09-17)-20240917192900"></span>Suggestion by Ham II (2024-09-17)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Suggestion_by_Ham_II_(2024-09-17)-20240917192900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Suggestion by Ham II (2024-09-17)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ham_II-20240917192900-Suggestion_by_Ham_II_(2024-09-17)"></span>The Signpost</i> should write about... criticism by the historian <a href="/wiki/Simon_Sebag_Montefiore" title="Simon Sebag Montefiore">Simon Sebag Montefiore</a> of changes made to the lead section of the article <a href="/wiki/Zionism" title="Zionism">Zionism</a> between 2023 and now: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://x.com/simonmontefiore/status/1836032108105490799?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">https://x.com/simonmontefiore/status/1836032108105490799?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw</a>. "<style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">History needs to be balanced & authoritative, based on facts and knowledge. Its replacement here @wikipedia by prejudiced ideology, distorted facts, and ahistorical fakery is alarming . @wikipedia is (was) respected & important because it presents facts & history without bias. Sometimes there were duels on pages between historical schools of thoughts but ultimately its editors wished to present history based on facts and balance. Has this page been captured by activists? It looks like it has. If so dear @wikipedia come back: You are part of the wider underpinnings of truth, authoritative history and factbased reportage that we desperately need in our society to foster the trust in information, reporting and scholarship, and the respect for learning and evidence that we need for our democracies to work. These principles are under attack in our academies, our media and of course in social media. @wikipedia has with a few exceptions been rare sanctuary of standards. We need you. Plse restore those all important principles</q>" </p><p>This was in a quote tweet of a post which may have gone viral yesterday; at any rate the original post seems to have sparked Twitter activity reported on at <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/09/17/wikipedia-entry-now-calls-zionism-colonialism/">https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/09/17/wikipedia-entry-now-calls-zionism-colonialism/</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.jns.org/wikipedia-defines-zionism-as-colonialism-sparking-outrage/">https://www.jns.org/wikipedia-defines-zionism-as-colonialism-sparking-outrage/</a>. (Those two webpages are essentially the same article.) At <a href="/wiki/Talk:Zionism#Bat_Signal" title="Talk:Zionism">Talk:Zionism § Bat Signal</a> a user notes that "<link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">page views for this article more than doubled from the average yesterday</q>". <a href="/wiki/User:Ham_II" title="User:Ham II">Ham II</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ham_II" title="User talk:Ham II">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#c-Ham_II-20240917192900-Suggestion_by_Ham_II_(2024-09-17)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:29, 17 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ham_II-20240917192900-Suggestion_by_Ham_II_(2024-09-17)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ham_II-20240917192900-Suggestion_by_Ham_II_(2024-09-17)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Suggestion_by_Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång_(2024-09-18)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Suggestion_by_Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång_(2024-09-18)-20240918165700"><span id="Suggestion_by_Gr.C3.A5bergs_Gr.C3.A5a_S.C3.A5ng_.282024-09-18.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Suggestion_by_Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång_(2024-09-18)-20240918165700"></span>Suggestion by Gråbergs Gråa Sång (2024-09-18)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Suggestion_by_Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång_(2024-09-18)-20240918165700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Suggestion by Gråbergs Gråa Sång (2024-09-18)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20240918165700-Suggestion_by_Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång_(2024-09-18)"></span>The Signpost</i> should write about... Seems something is happening at the Azerbaijani Wikipedia <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://oc-media.org/blogger-outs-azerbaijani-wikipedia-editors-over-deleted-articles/">[1]</a> (<a href="/wiki/OC_Media" title="OC Media">OC Media</a>). Related discussions at <a class="external autonumber" href="https://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipediya:K%C9%99nd_meydan%C4%B1">[2]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipediya:%C4%B0nzibat%C3%A7%C4%B1lara_m%C3%BCraci%C9%99t#M%C9%99hk%C9%99m%C9%99_il%C9%99_t%C9%99hdid">[3]</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng" title="User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång">Gråbergs Gråa Sång</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng" title="User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20240918165700-Suggestion_by_Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång_(2024-09-18)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:57, 18 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20240918165700-Suggestion_by_Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång_(2024-09-18)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20240918165700-Suggestion_by_Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång_(2024-09-18)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oltrepier-20240922204200-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20240918165700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng" title="User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång">Gråbergs Gråa Sång</a> Thank you for suggesting this: it will feature in the "In the media" section of the upcoming issue! <a href="/wiki/User:Oltrepier" title="User:Oltrepier">Oltrepier</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oltrepier" title="User talk:Oltrepier">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#c-Oltrepier-20240922204200-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20240918165700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:42, 22 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oltrepier-20240922204200-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20240918165700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oltrepier-20240922204200-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20240918165700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Suggestion_by_The_Anome_(2024-09-19)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Suggestion_by_The_Anome_(2024-09-19)-20240919032000"><span id="Suggestion_by_The_Anome_.282024-09-19.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Suggestion_by_The_Anome_(2024-09-19)-20240919032000"></span>Suggestion by The Anome (2024-09-19)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Suggestion_by_The_Anome_(2024-09-19)-20240919032000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Suggestion by The Anome (2024-09-19)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Anome-20240919032000-Suggestion_by_The_Anome_(2024-09-19)"></span>Here's a creationist website article asking the question "Is Wikipedia distorted by ideology and propaganda?" <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2024/09/18/is-wikipedia-distorted-by-ideology-and-propaganda/">https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2024/09/18/is-wikipedia-distorted-by-ideology-and-propaganda/</a> Amusing, to say the least. — <a href="/wiki/User:The_Anome" title="User:The Anome">The Anome</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Anome" title="User talk:The Anome">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#c-The_Anome-20240919032000-Suggestion_by_The_Anome_(2024-09-19)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:20, 19 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Anome-20240919032000-Suggestion_by_The_Anome_(2024-09-19)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Anome-20240919032000-Suggestion_by_The_Anome_(2024-09-19)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20240923083300-The_Anome-20240919032000"></span>Since when is <a href="/wiki/Jerry_Coyne" title="Jerry Coyne">Jerry Coyne</a> a creationist? <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#c-Headbomb-20240923083300-The_Anome-20240919032000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:33, 23 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20240923083300-The_Anome-20240919032000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20240923083300-The_Anome-20240919032000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Suggestion_by_Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång_(2024-10-14)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Suggestion_by_Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång_(2024-10-14)-20241014080700"><span id="Suggestion_by_Gr.C3.A5bergs_Gr.C3.A5a_S.C3.A5ng_.282024-10-14.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Suggestion_by_Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång_(2024-10-14)-20241014080700"></span>Suggestion by Gråbergs Gråa Sång (2024-10-14)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Suggestion_by_Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång_(2024-10-14)-20241014080700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Suggestion by Gråbergs Gråa Sång (2024-10-14)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241014080700-Suggestion_by_Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång_(2024-10-14)"></span>The Signpost</i> should write about... There is a new WP-article, <a href="/wiki/Asian_News_International_vs._Wikimedia_Foundation" title="Asian News International vs. Wikimedia Foundation">Asian News International vs. Wikimedia Foundation</a>, you have probably heard of the subject. However, <i>that WP-article</i> has now been mentioned in the court, and not approvingly:<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.barandbench.com/news/litigation/delhi-high-court-slams-wikipedia-refusal-divulge-identity-those-edited-ani-page">[4]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.livelaw.in/high-court/delhi-high-court/delhi-high-court-wikipedia-ani-defamation-cant-threaten-judge-272349">[5]</a> </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng" title="User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång">Gråbergs Gråa Sång</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng" title="User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241014080700-Suggestion_by_Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång_(2024-10-14)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:07, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241014080700-Suggestion_by_Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång_(2024-10-14)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241014080700-Suggestion_by_Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång_(2024-10-14)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robertsky-20241014112500-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241014080700"></span>The court hearing is to be held on 25 October. I think we can roll this into that hearing if Signpost isn't released by then. <a href="/wiki/User:Robertsky" title="User:Robertsky">– robertsky</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robertsky" title="User talk:Robertsky">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#c-Robertsky-20241014112500-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241014080700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:25, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robertsky-20241014112500-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241014080700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robertsky-20241014112500-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20241014080700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robertsky-20241014114400-Robertsky-20241014112500"></span>I correct myself, it seems to be barely within the deadline for the next issue. <a href="/wiki/User:Robertsky" title="User:Robertsky">– robertsky</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robertsky" title="User talk:Robertsky">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#c-Robertsky-20241014114400-Robertsky-20241014112500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:44, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robertsky-20241014114400-Robertsky-20241014112500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robertsky-20241014114400-Robertsky-20241014112500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SYSS_Mouse-20241023184600-Robertsky-20241014114400"></span>and WP:Office has oversighted it. <a href="/wiki/User:SYSS_Mouse" title="User:SYSS Mouse">SYSS Mouse</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SYSS_Mouse" title="User talk:SYSS Mouse">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#c-SYSS_Mouse-20241023184600-Robertsky-20241014114400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SYSS_Mouse-20241023184600-Robertsky-20241014114400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SYSS_Mouse-20241023184600-Robertsky-20241014114400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Using_policy_and_WP:SHORTCUT_link_counts_to_evaluate_consensus" data-mw-thread-id="h-Using_policy_and_WP:SHORTCUT_link_counts_to_evaluate_consensus-20241108194000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Using_policy_and_WP:SHORTCUT_link_counts_to_evaluate_consensus-20241108194000"></span>Using policy and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SHORTCUT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SHORTCUT">WP:SHORTCUT</a> link counts to evaluate consensus<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Using_policy_and_WP:SHORTCUT_link_counts_to_evaluate_consensus-20241108194000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Using policy and WP:SHORTCUT link counts to evaluate consensus"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rjjiii-20241108194000-Using_policy_and_WP:SHORTCUT_link_counts_to_evaluate_consensus"></span>Hello. Initially for my own interest, I created a series of bar charts to evaluate the link counts Wikipedia's top-level policy pages (as of the first full week of November). I'd like to offer these up if anyone working on the <i>Signpost</i> would like to use them for an article: </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Rjjiii/Core_content_policy_link_counts" title="User:Rjjiii/Core content policy link counts">User:Rjjiii/Core content policy link counts</a></li></ul> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Rjjiii" title="User:Rjjiii"><span style="font-variant:small-caps;">Rjj<sup>iii</sup></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rjjiii" title="User talk:Rjjiii">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#c-Rjjiii-20241108194000-Using_policy_and_WP:SHORTCUT_link_counts_to_evaluate_consensus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:40, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rjjiii-20241108194000-Using_policy_and_WP:SHORTCUT_link_counts_to_evaluate_consensus"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rjjiii-20241108194000-Using_policy_and_WP:SHORTCUT_link_counts_to_evaluate_consensus"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Suggestion_by_Hawkeye7_(2024-11-23)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Suggestion_by_Hawkeye7_(2024-11-23)-20241123222600"><span id="Suggestion_by_Hawkeye7_.282024-11-23.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Suggestion_by_Hawkeye7_(2024-11-23)-20241123222600"></span>Suggestion by Hawkeye7 (2024-11-23)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Suggestion_by_Hawkeye7_(2024-11-23)-20241123222600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Suggestion by Hawkeye7 (2024-11-23)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hawkeye7-20241123222600-Suggestion_by_Hawkeye7_(2024-11-23)"></span>Found this news article <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://ia.acs.org.au/article/2024/really-frustrating-aussie-wikipedia-editors-burn-out.html'Really">frustrating': Aussie Wikipedia editors burn out: New study highlights disagreements, racism, and 'edit wars'</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Hawkeye7" title="User:Hawkeye7"><span style="color:#800082">Hawkeye7</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hawkeye7" title="User talk:Hawkeye7"><span style="font-size:80%">(discuss)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#c-Hawkeye7-20241123222600-Suggestion_by_Hawkeye7_(2024-11-23)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:26, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hawkeye7-20241123222600-Suggestion_by_Hawkeye7_(2024-11-23)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hawkeye7-20241123222600-Suggestion_by_Hawkeye7_(2024-11-23)"></span> </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Hawkeye7" title="User:Hawkeye7"><span style="color:#800082"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hawkeye7-20241123222600-Suggestion_by_Hawkeye7_(2024-11-23)-1"></span>Hawkeye7</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hawkeye7" title="User talk:Hawkeye7"><span style="font-size:80%">(discuss)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#c-Hawkeye7-20241123222600-Suggestion_by_Hawkeye7_(2024-11-23)-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:26, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hawkeye7-20241123222600-Suggestion_by_Hawkeye7_(2024-11-23)-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hawkeye7-20241123222600-Suggestion_by_Hawkeye7_(2024-11-23)-1"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; 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