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Which do we prefer: to be polished, or to be informative? <a href="/wiki/User:Matt_Crypto" title="User:Matt Crypto">— Matt <small>Crypto</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:No_blurry_images#c-Matt_Crypto-2007-02-17T21:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:16, 17 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matt_Crypto-2007-02-17T21:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-02-17T21:16:00.000Z","author":"Matt Crypto","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Matt_Crypto-2007-02-17T21:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jenolen-2007-02-18T00:01:00.000Z-Matt_Crypto-2007-02-17T21:16:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2014 Matt Crypto"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matt_Crypto-2007-02-17T21:16:00.000Z"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jenolen-2007-02-18T00:01:00.000Z-Matt_Crypto-2007-02-17T21:16:00.000Z"></span>Just to be clear -- are you arguing in favor of blurry photos, only when compared to no photo? I think bad information is worse than no information in an encyclopedia.</dd> <dd>Just as there are certain standards for text/information, there should be certain standards for photographs. A blurry photo is the image-equavalent of a sentence that reads "Erian sorken is a femous wrytere." That can be easily corrected by someone with moderate English language skills. But a blurry photos, sadly, will likely remain blurry, no matter what is done to improve it. No Blurry Photos! <a href="/wiki/User:Jenolen" title="User:Jenolen"><span style="color:blue;">Jenolen</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jenolen" title="User talk:Jenolen"><span style="color:red;"><b><sup>speak it!</sup></b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:No_blurry_images#c-Jenolen-2007-02-18T00:01:00.000Z-Matt_Crypto-2007-02-17T21:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:01, 18 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jenolen-2007-02-18T00:01:00.000Z-Matt_Crypto-2007-02-17T21:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-02-18T00:01:00.000Z","author":"Jenolen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jenolen-2007-02-18T00:01:00.000Z-Matt_Crypto-2007-02-17T21:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Matt_Crypto-2007-02-20T07:30:00.000Z-Jenolen-2007-02-18T00:01:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jenolen-2007-02-18T00:01:00.000Z-Matt_Crypto-2007-02-17T21:16:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Matt_Crypto-2007-02-20T07:30:00.000Z-Jenolen-2007-02-18T00:01:00.000Z"></span>You are correct that there's little that can be done to improve a blurry photograph, but it's still gives more information than no photograph at all, and it's unlikely to be outright confusing (as opposed to a badly phrased sentence). I would say that I prefer to have some information than none, even if it looks aesthetically poor. <a href="/wiki/User:Matt_Crypto" title="User:Matt Crypto">— Matt <small>Crypto</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:No_blurry_images#c-Matt_Crypto-2007-02-20T07:30:00.000Z-Jenolen-2007-02-18T00:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:30, 20 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matt_Crypto-2007-02-20T07:30:00.000Z-Jenolen-2007-02-18T00:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-02-20T07:30:00.000Z","author":"Matt Crypto","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Matt_Crypto-2007-02-20T07:30:00.000Z-Jenolen-2007-02-18T00:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jenolen-2007-02-25T06:19:00.000Z-Matt_Crypto-2007-02-20T07:30:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2014 Matt Crypto"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matt_Crypto-2007-02-20T07:30:00.000Z-Jenolen-2007-02-18T00:01:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jenolen-2007-02-25T06:19:00.000Z-Matt_Crypto-2007-02-20T07:30:00.000Z"></span>Your preference for poor information over no information should not be tolerated in an ENCYCLOPEDIA. You want poor information? Use Google. You want encyclopedic information? Use Wikipedia. This kind of thinking, to me, is the photographic equavalent of, when dealing with facts, prefering a lie to nothing, or a falsehood to nothing. Because, you know, at least it's SOMETHING. Say no to this kind of thinking! No lies in Wikipedia content... no falsehoods ... and no blurry images! <a href="/wiki/User:Jenolen" title="User:Jenolen"><span style="color:blue;">Jenolen</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jenolen" title="User talk:Jenolen"><span style="color:red;"><b><sup>speak it!</sup></b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:No_blurry_images#c-Jenolen-2007-02-25T06:19:00.000Z-Matt_Crypto-2007-02-20T07:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:19, 25 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jenolen-2007-02-25T06:19:00.000Z-Matt_Crypto-2007-02-20T07:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-02-25T06:19:00.000Z","author":"Jenolen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jenolen-2007-02-25T06:19:00.000Z-Matt_Crypto-2007-02-20T07:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Amarkov-2007-02-28T06:13:00.000Z-Jenolen-2007-02-25T06:19:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jenolen-2007-02-25T06:19:00.000Z-Matt_Crypto-2007-02-20T07:30:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amarkov-2007-02-28T06:13:00.000Z-Jenolen-2007-02-25T06:19:00.000Z"></span>What? You're equating lies to blurry images? How are the two analogous, at <i>all</i>? -<a href="/wiki/User:Amarkov" title="User:Amarkov">Amarkov</a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amarkov" title="User talk:Amarkov">moo!</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:No_blurry_images#c-Amarkov-2007-02-28T06:13:00.000Z-Jenolen-2007-02-25T06:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:13, 28 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amarkov-2007-02-28T06:13:00.000Z-Jenolen-2007-02-25T06:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-02-28T06:13:00.000Z","author":"Amarkov","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Amarkov-2007-02-28T06:13:00.000Z-Jenolen-2007-02-25T06:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amarkov-2007-02-28T06:13:00.000Z-Jenolen-2007-02-25T06:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jenolen-2007-02-28T08:33:00.000Z"></span>A blurry image can distort the "truth" of an image, to the point where it's a "negative value" proposition. For example, if you're looking at a blurry picture of a monkey, and because it's so out of focus, the colors aren't reading right, or, I don't know, it looks like the monkey has a third arm, but you can't really tell what that is, because, you know, it's so darn blurry... then THAT'S worse than "no photo." No, this isn't the best analogy... but still, I remain adamant and steadfast -- No Blurry Images in Wikipedia! <a href="/wiki/User:Jenolen" title="User:Jenolen"><span style="color:blue;">Jenolen</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jenolen" title="User talk:Jenolen"><span style="color:red;"><b><sup>speak it!</sup></b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:No_blurry_images#c-Jenolen-2007-02-28T08:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:33, 28 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jenolen-2007-02-28T08:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-02-28T08:33:00.000Z","author":"Jenolen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jenolen-2007-02-28T08:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jenolen-2007-02-28T08:33:00.000Z"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Is_the_image_on_this_page_unacceptable_to_you?-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z-Is_the_image_on_this_page_unacceptable_to_you?"],"text":"Is the image on this page unacceptable to you?","linkableTitle":"Is the image on this page unacceptable to you?"}--><h2 id="Is_the_image_on_this_page_unacceptable_to_you?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Is_the_image_on_this_page_unacceptable_to_you?-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z"><span id="Is_the_image_on_this_page_unacceptable_to_you.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Is_the_image_on_this_page_unacceptable_to_you?-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z"></span>Is the image on this page unacceptable to you?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Is_the_image_on_this_page_unacceptable_to_you?-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:No_blurry_images&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Is the image on this page unacceptable to you?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Is_the_image_on_this_page_unacceptable_to_you?-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z-Is_the_image_on_this_page_unacceptable_to_you?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Jenolen-2007-03-14T16:09:00.000Z-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-14T13:23:00.000Z","timestamp":"2007-03-14T16:09:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Is_the_image_on_this_page_unacceptable_to_you?-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z-Is_the_image_on_this_page_unacceptable_to_you?"],"text":"Is the image on this page unacceptable to you?","linkableTitle":"Is the image on this page unacceptable to you?"}--></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/David_Cross_(musician)" title="David Cross (musician)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z-Is_the_image_on_this_page_unacceptable_to_you?"></span>David Cross (musician)</a>, which has Image:DavidCrossKC1973.jpg as an example. I'd say that the picture in question, although blurry, adds to the article. I don't really agree with this essay at all. Also, it's easier to find low-resolution, blurry images that correspond to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FUC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FUC">fair use criteria</a> than it is for better, non-blurry images.--<b><a href="/wiki/User:HisSpaceResearch" title="User:HisSpaceResearch">h i s</a></b> <i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:HisSpaceResearch" title="User talk:HisSpaceResearch">s p a c e</a></i> <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=Scot_Young_Research&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Scot Young Research (page does not exist)">r e s e a r c h</a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:No_blurry_images#c-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z-Is_the_image_on_this_page_unacceptable_to_you?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z-Is_the_image_on_this_page_unacceptable_to_you?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z","author":"HisSpaceResearch","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z-Is_the_image_on_this_page_unacceptable_to_you?","replies":["c-Jenolen-2007-03-13T16:18:00.000Z-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z"],"displayName":"h i s"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z-Is_the_image_on_this_page_unacceptable_to_you?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jenolen-2007-03-13T16:18:00.000Z-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z"></span>The picture in question adds to the amateurish-ness looking of the article, certainly. Let me put it to you this way: Which would you rather have to illustrate the article? The current image or <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.artist-shop.com/noisy/cross.jpg">this one</a>? I submit that "being in focus" is NOT too much to ask for, when it comes to minimum quality requirements for an encyclopedia. No blurry images! <a href="/wiki/User:Jenolen" title="User:Jenolen"><span style="color:blue;">Jenolen</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jenolen" title="User talk:Jenolen"><span style="color:red;"><b><sup>speak it!</sup></b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:No_blurry_images#c-Jenolen-2007-03-13T16:18:00.000Z-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jenolen-2007-03-13T16:18:00.000Z-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-03-13T16:18:00.000Z","author":"Jenolen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jenolen-2007-03-13T16:18:00.000Z-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-14T13:23:00.000Z-Jenolen-2007-03-13T16:18:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jenolen-2007-03-13T16:18:00.000Z-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-13T11:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-14T13:23:00.000Z-Jenolen-2007-03-13T16:18:00.000Z"></span>I'd rather have the latter image, definitely, to illustrate it, but can we legally use that as part of a free content encyclopedia? Blurry is better than nothing, surely, in most cases? --<b><a href="/wiki/User:HisSpaceResearch" title="User:HisSpaceResearch">h i s</a></b> <i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:HisSpaceResearch" title="User talk:HisSpaceResearch">s p a c e</a></i> <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=Scot_Young_Research&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Scot Young Research (page does not exist)">r e s e a r c h</a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:No_blurry_images#c-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-14T13:23:00.000Z-Jenolen-2007-03-13T16:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-14T13:23:00.000Z-Jenolen-2007-03-13T16:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-03-14T13:23:00.000Z","author":"HisSpaceResearch","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-14T13:23:00.000Z-Jenolen-2007-03-13T16:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jenolen-2007-03-14T16:09:00.000Z-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-14T13:23:00.000Z"],"displayName":"h i s"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-14T13:23:00.000Z-Jenolen-2007-03-13T16:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jenolen-2007-03-14T16:09:00.000Z-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-14T13:23:00.000Z"></span>No, that's the point. Blurry is NOT better than nothing. Blurry is amateurish and unprofessional. Blurry is okay for holiday snaps or artistic photos, but when it comes to <b>encyclopedia</b> subjects, blurry should not be acceptable! It's the same as accepting a misspelled word. There's a reason Britannica sets the world-wide standard for excellence, and it's not 'cuz they include blurry photos...</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>So what are the options? Contact David Cross (or his estate) and find out if they'll release a photo of him for future use, worldwide, in any media or form, for profit or not (which is what many people <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Fair_use" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:Fair use">here would suggest you do</a>), or go through our sometimes confusing and arcane <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FUC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FUC">fair use criteria</a> and see if you can find an image that, through some miracle, satisfies all ten. Please note: an actual, living, breathing, non-hypothetical <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CABAL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CABAL">cabal</a> will delete all fair use photos of living people. They believe (and some agree) that a fair use photo of a living person is somehow damaging to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:5P" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:5P">our mission</a>.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Good luck! <a href="/wiki/User:Jenolen" title="User:Jenolen"><span style="color:blue;">Jenolen</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jenolen" title="User talk:Jenolen"><span style="color:red;"><b><sup>speak it!</sup></b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:No_blurry_images#c-Jenolen-2007-03-14T16:09:00.000Z-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-14T13:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jenolen-2007-03-14T16:09:00.000Z-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-14T13:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-03-14T16:09:00.000Z","author":"Jenolen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jenolen-2007-03-14T16:09:00.000Z-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-14T13:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jenolen-2007-03-14T16:09:00.000Z-HisSpaceResearch-2007-03-14T13:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐api‐int.codfw.main‐58cc965476‐cz6n6 Cached time: 20241129015032 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.012 seconds CPU time usage: 0.246 seconds Real time usage: 0.278 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 14588/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 11789/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 243/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 15/100 Expensive parser function count: 4/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 8880/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.136/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 1368952/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 237.172 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 100.00% 237.172 1 -total 76.21% 180.754 1 Template:WikiProject_Essays 44.49% 105.527 8 User:AntiCompositeBot/EssayImpact/data 28.66% 67.964 1 Template:WikiProject_Wikipedia_essays/importance --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:9563961:|#|:idhash:canonical and timestamp 20241129015032 and revision id 1243846437. 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