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height: 0px;"></div> </td> <td> <div style="position: relative; left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; z-index: 15;">Here are some tasks awaiting attention: <ul style="font-size: 100%; margin: 0px; padding: 0.3em 0px 0.3em 25px;"> <li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles" title="Wikipedia:Requested articles">Article requests</a></i> :</b> <br/> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Sports" title="Wikipedia:Requested articles/Sports">Requested articles (Sports)</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Sports/Association_football_(soccer)" title="Wikipedia:Requested articles/Sports/Association football (soccer)">Requested articles (Association football)</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Women%27s_football_task_force/Open_tasks#Requested_Articles" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Women's football task force/Open tasks">Requested articles (Association football women)</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Sports/Motor_sports" title="Wikipedia:Requested articles/Sports/Motor sports">Requested articles (Motor sports)</a> <br/> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Sports/Estonian_sportspeople" title="Wikipedia:Requested articles/Sports/Estonian sportspeople">Requested articles (Estonian sportspeople)</a></li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Content_assessment" title="Wikipedia:Content assessment">Assess</a></i> :</b> newly added and existing articles, maybe nominate some good B-class articles for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GA">GA</a>; independently assess some as A-class, regardless of GA status.</li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Cleanup" title="Wikipedia:Cleanup">Cleanup</a></i> :</b> <br/> * <a href="/wiki/Sport_governing_body" class="mw-redirect" title="Sport governing body">Sport governing body</a> (this should-be-major article is in a <i>shameful</i> state) <br/> * <a href="/wiki/Field_hockey" title="Field hockey">Field hockey</a> (History section needs sources and accurate information - very vague at the moment.) <br/> * Standardize <a href="/wiki/Category:American_college_sports_infobox_templates" title="Category:American college sports infobox templates">Category:American college sports infobox templates</a> to use same font size and spacing. <br/> * <a href="/wiki/Sport_in_the_United_Kingdom" title="Sport in the United Kingdom">Sport in the United Kingdom</a> - the <a href="/wiki/Sport_in_the_United_Kingdom#Popularity" title="Sport in the United Kingdom">Popularity</a> section is incorrect and unsourced. Reliable data is required. <br/> * Fix project template and/or "to do list" Current version causes tables of content to be hidden unless/until reader chooses "show."</li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_better_articles" title="Wikipedia:Writing better articles">Expand</a></i> :</b> <a href="/wiki/Professional_sports" title="Professional sports">Professional sports</a> (crucial article explaining the salaried undertaking of sports) <br/> * <a href="/wiki/Sport_industry" title="Sport industry">Sport industry</a> (currently a sub-stub)</li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_pictures" title="Wikipedia:Requested pictures">Photo</a></i> :</b> for pages listed in <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_requested_images_of_sports_and_games" title="Category:Wikipedia requested images of sports and games">Category:Wikipedia requested images of sports and games</a> and sub-categories.</li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub" title="Wikipedia:Stub">Stubs</a></i> :</b> work on articles in <a href="/wiki/Category:Sports_stubs" title="Category:Sports stubs">Category:Sports stubs</a></li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:As_of" title="Wikipedia:As of">Update</a></i> :</b> <a href="/wiki/List_of_world_sports_championships" title="List of world sports championships">List of world sports championships</a></li><li><b><i>Other</i> :</b> <br/> <ul><li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Translate" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Translate">Translate</a></b> the page of sport in each country from corresponding article in other language Wikipedia to English Wikipedia which was marked in red.</li> <li><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CATEGORY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CATEGORY">Categorize</a></b>: Gather all (major/<a href="/wiki/Olympic_games" class="mw-redirect" title="Olympic games">olympic</a>) sports to be part of this project</li> <li><b>RfCs</b>: answer <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Society,_sports,_and_culture" title="Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Society, sports, and culture">requests for comment</a></li></ul> </li></ul> </div> </td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <p><br/> </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Under-12s?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Under-12s?-2009-01-08T17:06:00.000Z"><span id="Under-12s.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Under-12s?-2009-01-08T17:06:00.000Z"></span>Under-12s?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Under-12s?-2009-01-08T17:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Under-12s?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-79.138.193.11-2009-01-08T17:06:00.000Z-Under-12s?"></span>Somebody might want to explain that word.... <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/79.138.193.11" title="Special:Contributions/79.138.193.11">79.138.193.11</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:79.138.193.11&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:79.138.193.11 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-79.138.193.11-2009-01-08T17:06:00.000Z-Under-12s?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:06, 8 January 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-79.138.193.11-2009-01-08T17:06:00.000Z-Under-12s?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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id="c-Jorgenpfhartogs-2013-08-24T15:36:00.000Z-referencing"></span>A chairde Gael, </p><p>I am looking for a very old thesis, the very same thesis used in this article as a reference, to assist on my dissertation on the rise and decline of player numbers in rural GAA clubs in Co. Kerry and though the thesis by Father William Ferris is sited a lot I can't find the actual thesis. </p><p>I have been looking for it in the catalogue of the special collections section of the Boole Library at UCC, on JSTOR, on archives.org, in the catalogue if the National Library of Ireland and even on google scholar, but so far it has eluded me. </p><p>Do you know of any way to find the test of this thesis? </p><p>The name of the thesis is: </p><p>The traditional game of Caid by father Willam Ferris. </p><p>He was parish priest of Glenflesk from 1938 to 1943. </p><p>I would really appreciate it if you could help me find the thesis. Is mise le meas, Seoirse Ó Duic <a href="/wiki/User:Jorgenpfhartogs" title="User:Jorgenpfhartogs">Jorgenpfhartogs</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jorgenpfhartogs" title="User talk:Jorgenpfhartogs">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Jorgenpfhartogs-2013-08-24T15:36:00.000Z-referencing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:36, 24 August 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jorgenpfhartogs-2013-08-24T15:36:00.000Z-referencing"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jorgenpfhartogs-2013-08-24T15:36:00.000Z-referencing"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Invented?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Invented?-2006-11-08T06:00:00.000Z"><span id="Invented.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Invented?-2006-11-08T06:00:00.000Z"></span>Invented?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Invented?-2006-11-08T06:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Invented?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Booch-2006-11-08T06:00:00.000Z-Invented?"></span>How is it that the game was invented by 2 guys in 1949, yet the rules were already set by 1887? I don't see any mention of 1949 in the history section of the GAA website. --<a href="/wiki/User:Booch" title="User:Booch">Booch</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Booch-2006-11-08T06:00:00.000Z-Invented?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:00, 8 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Booch-2006-11-08T06:00:00.000Z-Invented?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Booch-2006-11-08T06:00:00.000Z-Invented?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Stamp?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stamp?-2005-11-21T07:01:00.000Z"><span id="Stamp.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stamp?-2005-11-21T07:01:00.000Z"></span>Stamp?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stamp?-2005-11-21T07:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Stamp?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Borisblue-2005-11-21T07:01:00.000Z-Stamp?"></span>Why are we using a stamp as a lead pic? Surely it would be a simple task for someone in Ireland to take a photo of ppl playing gaelic football <a href="/wiki/User:Borisblue" title="User:Borisblue">Borisblue</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Borisblue-2005-11-21T07:01:00.000Z-Stamp?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:01, 21 November 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Borisblue-2005-11-21T07:01:00.000Z-Stamp?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Borisblue-2005-11-21T07:01:00.000Z-Stamp?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kglavin-2005-12-19T18:38:00.000Z-Borisblue-2005-11-21T07:01:00.000Z"></span>I looked around (Well...I googled) to find a picture that wasn't on a stamp but it was actually fairly difficult (and I don't really understand copyright issues). Next match I'm at I'll take a picture if I can. <dl><dd>the stamp was put there because it was a copyright free method of getting a picture, if someone can take a picture themselves at a match and assign an appropriate license then that works, do not however go on the web and grab somebody elses (professional or not) picture and post it as this is a copyright infringement. <a href="/wiki/User:Kglavin" title="User:Kglavin">Kglavin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Kglavin-2005-12-19T18:38:00.000Z-Borisblue-2005-11-21T07:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:38, 19 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kglavin-2005-12-19T18:38:00.000Z-Borisblue-2005-11-21T07:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kglavin-2005-12-19T18:38:00.000Z-Borisblue-2005-11-21T07:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="General_Description" data-mw-thread-id="h-General_Description-2006-01-05T09:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-General_Description-2006-01-05T09:13:00.000Z"></span>General Description<span data-mw-comment-end="h-General_Description-2006-01-05T09:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: General Description"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DevSolar-2006-01-05T09:13:00.000Z-General_Description"></span>"Some plays include a ducking and weaving movement where the player in posession will run towards an opponent, and at the last minute change direction after wrong-footing the defender. Passing takes place to players on the run, so rather than passing directly to a team-mate, players will pass the ball into mid-air just ahead of the receiving player so that he can run into it." </p><p>Erm... that would be the same for Soccer, American Football, Handball... looks like fluff to me...?!? <a href="/wiki/User:DevSolar" title="User:DevSolar">DevSolar</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-DevSolar-2006-01-05T09:13:00.000Z-General_Description" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:13, 5 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DevSolar-2006-01-05T09:13:00.000Z-General_Description"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DevSolar-2006-01-05T09:13:00.000Z-General_Description"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chachilongbow-2006-07-14T13:06:00.000Z-General_Description"></span>I agree here. The general description should focus on what makes this game unique when compared to others. This paragraph could describe almost any ball sport. <a href="/wiki/User:Chachilongbow" title="User:Chachilongbow">Chachilongbow</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Chachilongbow-2006-07-14T13:06:00.000Z-General_Description" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chachilongbow-2006-07-14T13:06:00.000Z-General_Description"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chachilongbow-2006-07-14T13:06:00.000Z-General_Description"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thrapper-2006-08-20T15:45:00.000Z-General_Description"></span>Thirded. Offending sentences removed <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Thrapper&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Thrapper (page does not exist)">Thrapper</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Thrapper-2006-08-20T15:45:00.000Z-General_Description" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:45, 20 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thrapper-2006-08-20T15:45:00.000Z-General_Description"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thrapper-2006-08-20T15:45:00.000Z-General_Description"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mayobridge" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mayobridge"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mayobridge"></span>Mayobridge<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mayobridge"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Mayobridge"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Surely we dont need a direct link to mayobridge club web site? If that stays why not all other club sites? </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Football_Needs_You" data-mw-thread-id="h-Football_Needs_You-2006-03-16T13:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Football_Needs_You-2006-03-16T13:45:00.000Z"></span>Football Needs You<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Football_Needs_You-2006-03-16T13:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Football Needs You"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jimididit-2006-03-16T13:45:00.000Z-Football_Needs_You"></span>Hello, </p><p>You don't know me but i'm a user formely known as <a href="/wiki/User:Jebus_Christ" title="User:Jebus Christ">User:Jebus Christ</a>. I was blocked some time ago because wikipedia didn't like my username. I've only just now created my current username. </p><p>Some of you may be aware that the <a href="/wiki/Football" title="Football">Football</a> article has been overtaken by a fraternity of Australian Rules supporters. This fraternity includes at least one administrator that i'm aware of. His name is Snottygobble. </p><p>Regardless of what you may think of the current vote going on in that article, it is blatantly obvious that the article has a major overrepresentation from Australian Rules fans. The Football article needs more input from people with interests such as yours. This should even out the content a little resulting in an article written from a global perspective (as opposed to the southern australian perspective). </p><p>With regards to the current vote, whether you agree or not with the proposal, there are definitely some very twisted tactics being used. Currently, almost every person who has voted differently to that the AFL fraternity has been accused of being a sockpuppet of the person who initiated the vote. Through pure frustration, several users made the same accusation of some of the AFL fraternity. Immediately those people were blocked for 'making sockpuppet accursations in bad faith' by administrator and Aussie Rules fraternity member <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Snottygobble&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Snottygobble (page does not exist)">User:Snottygobble</a>. </p><p>I'm not here asking anyone to partake in the vote. What i'd like to see though is more input from people outside of the Assie Rules Fraternity. </p><p>Thanks in advance, </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Jimididit" title="User:Jimididit">Jimididit</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Jimididit-2006-03-16T13:45:00.000Z-Football_Needs_You" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:45, 16 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jimididit-2006-03-16T13:45:00.000Z-Football_Needs_You"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jimididit-2006-03-16T13:45:00.000Z-Football_Needs_You"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Where_are_the_official_rules?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Where_are_the_official_rules?-2006-03-25T07:41:00.000Z"><span id="Where_are_the_official_rules.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Where_are_the_official_rules?-2006-03-25T07:41:00.000Z"></span>Where are the official rules?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Where_are_the_official_rules?-2006-03-25T07:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Where are the official rules?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Boothy443-2006-03-25T07:41:00.000Z-Where_are_the_official_rules?"></span>hi my name is Pablo and i'm from Bolivia, i didn't know anything about Gaelic Football but seems like a very exciting game. I love almost all the sports, and i play the most i can: football, rugby, baseball etc. And i love to try new sports (like tapeball cricket right now) Is there any set of rules?...i'cant find the anywhere, and one question to the irish guy: u play this game in a pick-up fashion? or just in formal games?...tell me plz </p> <dl><dd>Well the best place to go for information on the ages that you are looking for is the website of the <a href="/wiki/Gaelic_Athletic_Association" title="Gaelic Athletic Association">Gaelic Athletic Association</a> (GAA) at <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.gaa.ie">http://www.gaa.ie</a>, it's basically like FIFA for Gaelic sports. Their you can find out the basic rules and regulations for Gaelic Football, as well as <a href="/wiki/Hurling" title="Hurling">Hurling</a> and <a href="/wiki/Gaelic_Handball" class="mw-redirect" title="Gaelic Handball">Gaelic Handball</a>. They are also coded the rules <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.gaa.ie/files/official_playing_rules.pdf">which you can find here</a> (this is a PDF document). Their is also a separate Gaelic football for women, <a href="/wiki/Ladies%27_Gaelic_football" title="Ladies' Gaelic football">Ladies' Gaelic football</a>, but the difference are relatively minor. As for pick up games, i guess you could i never have, but not in the same way that you would with football. --<a href="/wiki/User:Boothy443" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Boothy443">Boothy443</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Boothy443" title="User talk:Boothy443"> trácht ar</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Boothy443-2006-03-25T07:41:00.000Z-Where_are_the_official_rules?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:41, 25 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Boothy443-2006-03-25T07:41:00.000Z-Where_are_the_official_rules?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Boothy443-2006-03-25T07:41:00.000Z-Where_are_the_official_rules?"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kaeso_Dio-2007-11-23T11:48:00.000Z-Boothy443-2006-03-25T07:41:00.000Z"></span>The Rule Book, of any sport should not be classed as copio and should be able to be used on websites like this. If not then anything like teaching them to youngsters should violate copyright. <a href="/wiki/User:Kaeso_Dio" title="User:Kaeso Dio">Kaeso Dio</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kaeso_Dio" title="User talk:Kaeso Dio">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Kaeso_Dio-2007-11-23T11:48:00.000Z-Boothy443-2006-03-25T07:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:48, 23 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kaeso_Dio-2007-11-23T11:48:00.000Z-Boothy443-2006-03-25T07:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kaeso_Dio-2007-11-23T11:48:00.000Z-Boothy443-2006-03-25T07:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Volleyball_connection?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Volleyball_connection?-2006-06-07T20:49:00.000Z"><span id="Volleyball_connection.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Volleyball_connection?-2006-06-07T20:49:00.000Z"></span>Volleyball connection?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Volleyball_connection?-2006-06-07T20:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Volleyball connection?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ubermonkey-2006-06-07T20:49:00.000Z-Volleyball_connection?"></span>The ball used looks just like the type used for <a href="/wiki/Volleyball" title="Volleyball">Volleyball</a>. Is there any connection? <a href="/wiki/User:Ubermonkey" title="User:Ubermonkey">Ubermonkey</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Ubermonkey-2006-06-07T20:49:00.000Z-Volleyball_connection?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:49, 7 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ubermonkey-2006-06-07T20:49:00.000Z-Volleyball_connection?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ubermonkey-2006-06-07T20:49:00.000Z-Volleyball_connection?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gnevin-2006-06-07T20:56:00.000Z-Ubermonkey-2006-06-07T20:49:00.000Z"></span>No cpnnection at all a gaelic football is extremely heavy and hard when compared with a volleyball (<a href="/wiki/User:Gnevin" title="User:Gnevin">Gnevin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Gnevin-2006-06-07T20:56:00.000Z-Ubermonkey-2006-06-07T20:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:56, 7 June 2006 (UTC)</a>)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gnevin-2006-06-07T20:56:00.000Z-Ubermonkey-2006-06-07T20:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gnevin-2006-06-07T20:56:00.000Z-Ubermonkey-2006-06-07T20:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Grant65" title="User:Grant65"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-03T02:14:00.000Z-Gnevin-2006-06-07T20:56:00.000Z"></span>User:Grant65</a> and a guy callled B.W.O'Dwyer would tell you there is a connection, but it is unnofficial. Apparently some Irish gold miners decided to play a game of Gaelic Football on an indoor tennis court in Springfield, Massachussets. It can't be disproved, so it must have happened. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rulesfan" title="User:Rulesfan">Rulesfan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Rulesfan-2006-11-03T02:14:00.000Z-Gnevin-2006-06-07T20:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:14, 3 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-03T02:14:00.000Z-Gnevin-2006-06-07T20:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-03T02:14:00.000Z-Gnevin-2006-06-07T20:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ConorM-2007-05-06T20:15:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-11-03T02:14:00.000Z"></span>"It can't be disproved, so it must have happened." Em. Are you serious? <a href="/wiki/User:ConorM" title="User:ConorM">Conor</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-ConorM-2007-05-06T20:15:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-11-03T02:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:15, 6 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ConorM-2007-05-06T20:15:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-11-03T02:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ConorM-2007-05-06T20:15:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-11-03T02:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grant65-2006-11-03T08:13:00.000Z-Volleyball_connection?"></span>If there was any more to it than the appearance of the balls, I might be a believer ;-) <a href="/wiki/User:Grant65" title="User:Grant65">Grant65</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grant65" title="User talk:Grant65">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Grant65-2006-11-03T08:13:00.000Z-Volleyball_connection?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:13, 3 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grant65-2006-11-03T08:13:00.000Z-Volleyball_connection?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grant65-2006-11-03T08:13:00.000Z-Volleyball_connection?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T00:32:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-11-03T08:13:00.000Z"></span>You have a sense of humour, I'll give you that. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rulesfan" title="User:Rulesfan">Rulesfan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T00:32:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-11-03T08:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:32, 9 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T00:32:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-11-03T08:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T00:32:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-11-03T08:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="steps" data-mw-thread-id="h-steps-2006-06-08T19:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-steps-2006-06-08T19:53:00.000Z"></span>steps<span data-mw-comment-end="h-steps-2006-06-08T19:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: steps"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gnevin-2006-06-08T19:53:00.000Z-steps"></span>It can be carried in the hand for a distance of four steps and can be kicked or "hand-passed", a striking motion with the hand or fist. After every four steps the ball must be either bounced or "solo-ed", </p><p>taken from [<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.gaa.ie/page/all_about_football.html">[1]</a>] (<a href="/wiki/User:Gnevin" title="User:Gnevin">Gnevin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Gnevin-2006-06-08T19:53:00.000Z-steps" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:53, 8 June 2006 (UTC)</a>)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gnevin-2006-06-08T19:53:00.000Z-steps"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gnevin-2006-06-08T19:53:00.000Z-steps"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Punching" data-mw-thread-id="h-Punching"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Punching"></span>Punching<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Punching"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Punching"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>You Can't punch it, that is a dreadful description </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Left_or_Right" data-mw-thread-id="h-Left_or_Right-2006-08-02T07:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Left_or_Right-2006-08-02T07:01:00.000Z"></span>Left or Right<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Left_or_Right-2006-08-02T07:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Left or Right"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Frelke-2006-08-02T07:01:00.000Z-Left_or_Right"></span>Am I seeing things? Are the lefts and rights swapped in the Team of the Millenium? <a href="/wiki/User:Frelke" title="User:Frelke">Frelke</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Frelke-2006-08-02T07:01:00.000Z-Left_or_Right" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:01, 2 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Frelke-2006-08-02T07:01:00.000Z-Left_or_Right"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Frelke-2006-08-02T07:01:00.000Z-Left_or_Right"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gnevin-2006-08-20T17:24:00.000Z-Frelke-2006-08-02T07:01:00.000Z"></span>What do you mean ? (<a href="/wiki/User:Gnevin" title="User:Gnevin">Gnevin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Gnevin-2006-08-20T17:24:00.000Z-Frelke-2006-08-02T07:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:24, 20 August 2006 (UTC)</a>)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gnevin-2006-08-20T17:24:00.000Z-Frelke-2006-08-02T07:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gnevin-2006-08-20T17:24:00.000Z-Frelke-2006-08-02T07:01:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thrapper-2006-08-23T20:56:00.000Z-Gnevin-2006-08-20T17:24:00.000Z"></span>I think he means that usually the left-backs and left-forwards are on the left side of the field as seen when facing the goal that they're attacking - ie when the goalie looks upfield, the left-backs are on the left and the right-backs on the right. For example see the diagram at <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.gaelicfootball.com.au/mens.htm">http://www.gaelicfootball.com.au/mens.htm</a> - in this wiki page they're opposite. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Thrapper&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Thrapper (page does not exist)">Thrapper</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Thrapper-2006-08-23T20:56:00.000Z-Gnevin-2006-08-20T17:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:56, 23 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thrapper-2006-08-23T20:56:00.000Z-Gnevin-2006-08-20T17:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thrapper-2006-08-23T20:56:00.000Z-Gnevin-2006-08-20T17:24:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gnevin-2006-08-23T21:53:00.000Z-Thrapper-2006-08-23T20:56:00.000Z"></span>Fixed (<a href="/wiki/User:Gnevin" title="User:Gnevin">Gnevin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Gnevin-2006-08-23T21:53:00.000Z-Thrapper-2006-08-23T20:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:53, 23 August 2006 (UTC)</a>)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gnevin-2006-08-23T21:53:00.000Z-Thrapper-2006-08-23T20:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gnevin-2006-08-23T21:53:00.000Z-Thrapper-2006-08-23T20:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Overseas_competitions,_description_of_images_of_plays" data-mw-thread-id="h-Overseas_competitions,_description_of_images_of_plays-2005-09-09T09:21:00.000Z"><span id="Overseas_competitions.2C_description_of_images_of_plays"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Overseas_competitions,_description_of_images_of_plays-2005-09-09T09:21:00.000Z"></span>Overseas competitions, description of images of plays<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Overseas_competitions,_description_of_images_of_plays-2005-09-09T09:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Overseas competitions, description of images of plays"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-216.52.22.131-2005-09-09T09:21:00.000Z-Overseas_competitions,_description_of_images_of_plays"></span>There's alot of championships and things held overseas, theres one on the main site of the GAA website, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.gaa.ie">here</a>. If anyone knows anything about them, I think they should be included. All I know is that they're there. - <a href="/wiki/User:Dalta" title="User:Dalta">User:Dalta</a> I've never seen Gaelic Football and would be grateful if someone were to include on this page a brief description of what play looks like, common plays, something like that-- the Aussie rules entry has something like this.-- Tucker </p> <dl><dd>Seems like the page has a pretty good description of play to me. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:216.52.22.131&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:216.52.22.131 (page does not exist)">216.52.22.131</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-216.52.22.131-2005-09-09T09:21:00.000Z-Overseas_competitions,_description_of_images_of_plays" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:21, 9 September 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-216.52.22.131-2005-09-09T09:21:00.000Z-Overseas_competitions,_description_of_images_of_plays"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-216.52.22.131-2005-09-09T09:21:00.000Z-Overseas_competitions,_description_of_images_of_plays"></span></dd> <dd>I think I agree with Tucker. Explaining the details of the rules is not the same as actually describing what a game looks like or why it appeals to fans. I've just added a paragraph entitled 'Appearance.' It may be better placed farther down the page after the scoring system has been explained though.</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Gaelic_football_outside_Ireland" data-mw-thread-id="h-Gaelic_football_outside_Ireland-2006-09-18T02:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Gaelic_football_outside_Ireland-2006-09-18T02:05:00.000Z"></span>Gaelic football outside Ireland<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Gaelic_football_outside_Ireland-2006-09-18T02:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Gaelic football outside Ireland"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LordHedgie-2006-09-18T02:05:00.000Z-Gaelic_football_outside_Ireland"></span>A good addition to this page would be a description (preferably with links) to gaelic football outside Ireland. I know there are plenty of people who play in America, and I'd be surprised if England (and probably Australia) had at least a few teams playing locally. </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:LordHedgie&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:LordHedgie (page does not exist)">LordHedgie</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-LordHedgie-2006-09-18T02:05:00.000Z-Gaelic_football_outside_Ireland" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:05, 18 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LordHedgie-2006-09-18T02:05:00.000Z-Gaelic_football_outside_Ireland"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LordHedgie-2006-09-18T02:05:00.000Z-Gaelic_football_outside_Ireland"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T05:56:00.000Z-LordHedgie-2006-09-18T02:05:00.000Z"></span>A good idea. There are a few in Australia, but the code really struggles here. Most of the teams are based in the south eastern cities of Sydney, Melbourne and Adelaide. The association is very disorganised and only recently appointed a full time development officer. There has been a lot of growth in the ladies game though. Recently they have trialled a summer competition so as not to compete directly with Aussie Rules. International Rules is becoming more common to give the Irish guys more of an opportunity to play against opposition, but I have noticed a trend of a lot of the Irish tourists playing both codes, or even switching completely to Aussie Rules, and many of the players are actually Australians who aren't tough enough to play Aussie Rules. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rulesfan" title="User:Rulesfan">Rulesfan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T05:56:00.000Z-LordHedgie-2006-09-18T02:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:56, 26 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T05:56:00.000Z-LordHedgie-2006-09-18T02:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T05:56:00.000Z-LordHedgie-2006-09-18T02:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Not_Urban_Legend_but_true_story" data-mw-thread-id="h-Not_Urban_Legend_but_true_story-2006-09-24T13:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Not_Urban_Legend_but_true_story-2006-09-24T13:22:00.000Z"></span>Not Urban Legend but true story<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Not_Urban_Legend_but_true_story-2006-09-24T13:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Not Urban Legend but true story"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ruthiemac-2006-09-24T13:23:00.000Z-Not_Urban_Legend_but_true_story"></span>The referance to the story about a referee being locked in a boot be disillusioned players after a game is not a urban legend but a true story.I am not sure about the year it happened but the team and place involved was Rathnew, Co. Wicklow. The Referee had sent off a player of the Rathnew team. After the game the Referee was locked in his own boot and subsequently driven up the Wicklow mountains. I am not sure how he managed to get out of the boot or wether the player were disaplined but I'm sure someone else knows. </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ruthiemac&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ruthiemac (page does not exist)">User:ruthiemac</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Ruthiemac-2006-09-24T13:23:00.000Z-Not_Urban_Legend_but_true_story" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:23, 24 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ruthiemac-2006-09-24T13:23:00.000Z-Not_Urban_Legend_but_true_story"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ruthiemac-2006-09-24T13:23:00.000Z-Not_Urban_Legend_but_true_story"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gnevin-2006-09-24T13:22:00.000Z-Not_Urban_Legend_but_true_story"></span>Provide a reference and it will be added as fact (<a href="/wiki/User:Gnevin" title="User:Gnevin">Gnevin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Gnevin-2006-09-24T13:22:00.000Z-Not_Urban_Legend_but_true_story" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:22, 24 September 2006 (UTC)</a>)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gnevin-2006-09-24T13:22:00.000Z-Not_Urban_Legend_but_true_story"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gnevin-2006-09-24T13:22:00.000Z-Not_Urban_Legend_but_true_story"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EssQue-2007-08-04T08:28:00.000Z-Not_Urban_Legend_but_true_story"></span>Does the Wicklow Today Archive news count as a reliable reference: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.wicklowtoday.com/news/newspro/archives/arc4-2005.htm">http://www.wicklowtoday.com/news/newspro/archives/arc4-2005.htm</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:EssQue&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:EssQue (page does not exist)">EssQue</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-EssQue-2007-08-04T08:28:00.000Z-Not_Urban_Legend_but_true_story" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:28, 4 August 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EssQue-2007-08-04T08:28:00.000Z-Not_Urban_Legend_but_true_story"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EssQue-2007-08-04T08:28:00.000Z-Not_Urban_Legend_but_true_story"></span> </p><p>His name was Jonny Price and he died a couple of years ago. Reference to him can also be seen at <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.hoganstand.com/Wicklow/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=48827">http://www.hoganstand.com/Wicklow/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=48827</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:EssQue&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:EssQue (page does not exist)">EssQue</a> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section" data-mw-thread-id="h-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section-2006-10-26T05:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section-2006-10-26T05:59:00.000Z"></span>Aussie Rules connection in the History section<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section-2006-10-26T05:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Aussie Rules connection in the History section"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T05:59:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section"></span>Does it need to be here ? It kind of dominates an article about what is essentially an Irish game. It seems that it exists simply so that people who wish to make uninformed assumptions about the origins of both codes and doesn't add much if anything to the article. I have created this article <a href="/wiki/Comparison_of_Australian_rules_football_and_Gaelic_football" class="mw-redirect" title="Comparison of Australian rules football and Gaelic football">Comparison of Australian rules football and Gaelic football</a> where this sort of info should go instead. It is similar to articles created by other in terms of comparisons between the rugby codes and North American football codes.--<a href="/wiki/User:Rulesfan" title="User:Rulesfan">Rulesfan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T05:59:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:59, 26 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T05:59:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T05:59:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grant65-2006-10-26T07:09:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T05:59:00.000Z"></span>The relationship between the two is clearly quite close, and as it says in the article, there is even a suggestion that Gaelic originated <i>from</i> Aussie rules, not the other way round, courtesy of Archbishop Croke's sojourn down under in the 1870s. By all means link <a href="/wiki/Comparison_of_Australian_rules_football_and_Gaelic_football" class="mw-redirect" title="Comparison of Australian rules football and Gaelic football">Comparison of Australian rules football and Gaelic football</a> in this article, but I don't think there's anything wrong with discussing the connections between the two in this article. <a href="/wiki/User:Grant65" title="User:Grant65">Grant65</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grant65" title="User talk:Grant65">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Grant65-2006-10-26T07:09:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T05:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:09, 26 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grant65-2006-10-26T07:09:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T05:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grant65-2006-10-26T07:09:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T05:59:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T23:33:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-10-26T07:09:00.000Z"></span>Sure, maybe to an Australian or an Irish person, but what about for someone who doesn't know anything of Australian Rules ? It would be the equivalent of having a huge chunk of Canadian Football crap in the middle of a gridiron article. I am an Australian Rules fan first, but I also appreciate the quality of wikipedia as a resource rather than a propaganda machine. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rulesfan" title="User:Rulesfan">Rulesfan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T23:33:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-10-26T07:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:33, 26 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T23:33:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-10-26T07:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T23:33:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-10-26T07:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grant65-2006-10-26T23:56:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T23:33:00.000Z"></span>Propaganda?! For what? It's history. <a href="/wiki/Australian_rules_football" title="Australian rules football">Australian rules football</a> makes the same point about Gaelic. And funny you should mention it, but <a href="/wiki/American_football" title="American football">American football</a> grew out of <a href="/wiki/Canadian_football" title="Canadian football">Canadian football</a> (and that out of rugby). Those articles make the same point. They are all related --- see <a href="/wiki/Football" title="Football">Football</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Grant65" title="User:Grant65">Grant65</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grant65" title="User talk:Grant65">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Grant65-2006-10-26T23:56:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T23:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:56, 26 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grant65-2006-10-26T23:56:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T23:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grant65-2006-10-26T23:56:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T23:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-30T02:09:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-10-26T23:56:00.000Z"></span>Maybe once upon a time, but thankfully it has mostly been edited out. Look at the Aussie Rules page. Only 2 lines mention Gaelic Football: <i>While it is clear even to casual observers that Australian rules football is similar to Gaelic football, the exact relationship is unclear, as the Irish game was not codified by the Gaelic Athletic Association (GAA) until 1887.</i>. This seems highly imbalanced to the 6 paragraphs of Aussie Rules which exist in a far smaller Gaelic Football article. Fair is fair my friend. I just don't think it adds anything to the subject matter of the article, which is Gaelic Football, not some stub of Australian rules football. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rulesfan" title="User:Rulesfan">Rulesfan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Rulesfan-2006-10-30T02:09:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-10-26T23:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:09, 30 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-30T02:09:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-10-26T23:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-30T02:09:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-10-26T23:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grant65-2006-10-30T16:02:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section"></span>Now that you mention it, <a href="/wiki/Australian_rules_football" title="Australian rules football">Australian rules football</a> doesn't really do the subject justice. I will set about rectifying that. That article is a much more heavily and frequently edited article than this one. The reference has been "edited out" of Australian rules football because there is now a separate <a href="/wiki/History_of_Australian_rules_football" title="History of Australian rules football">History of Australian rules football</a>, which has a whole section entitled "Similarities to Gaelic football". When this article gets so big that there is a separate <a href="/wiki/History_of_Gaelic_football" class="mw-redirect" title="History of Gaelic football">History of Gaelic football</a> article, no doubt the same will happen. </p><p>By the way, I don't understand these references to "propaganda" and "fair is fair". The problem as I see it, is that this article is lacking in the history section (or a separate history article), not that there's too much on Aussie rules. It's not as though space in Wikipedia articles is a precious commodity. <a href="/wiki/User:Grant65" title="User:Grant65">Grant65</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grant65" title="User talk:Grant65">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Grant65-2006-10-30T16:02:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:02, 30 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grant65-2006-10-30T16:02:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grant65-2006-10-30T16:02:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-31T00:18:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-10-30T16:02:00.000Z"></span>Well perhaps someone like yourself might choose to learn enough about the game to help write a less biased article. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rulesfan" title="User:Rulesfan">Rulesfan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Rulesfan-2006-10-31T00:18:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-10-30T16:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:18, 31 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-31T00:18:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-10-30T16:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-31T00:18:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-10-30T16:02:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grant65-2006-10-31T01:32:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-10-31T00:18:00.000Z"></span>Bias? Propaganda? Anyone would think we were comparing Hitler and Stalin rather than anything as innocuous as two football codes. Everything that I have contributed to the article is verifiable by references.</dd> <dd>I have been to libraries and sought out histories of Gaelic football and the GAA. Unfortunately they are few and far between in my neck of the woods Why don't you give it a go if you're so concerned?</dd> <dd>I will also add a section stub template to the history section.<a href="/wiki/User:Grant65" title="User:Grant65">Grant65</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grant65" title="User talk:Grant65">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Grant65-2006-10-31T01:32:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-10-31T00:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:32, 31 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grant65-2006-10-31T01:32:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-10-31T00:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grant65-2006-10-31T01:32:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-10-31T00:18:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-31T04:22:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-10-31T01:32:00.000Z"></span>I am not insinuating anything I am just looking from the point of view of the reader who wants to find out about the sport of Gaelic football. Like me. I never expected to find as much information on an unrelated code than the subject of the article.</dd> <dd>That's what I'm currently aiming at doing. But a good article is a short article IMO. Australian Rules suffers from a long and history of internal factions and schisms which have not affected the GAA to my knowledge.</dd> <dd>I have re-edited to focus on the comparison article. I think all speculation should be removed from this article. It is one thing to quote O'Dwyer, but the fact he is a historian itself does not make his speculations valid in the perspective of this article. Nor does speculation about what Thomas Croke may or may not have seen during his tenure in New Zealand. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rulesfan" title="User:Rulesfan">Rulesfan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Rulesfan-2006-10-31T04:22:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-10-31T01:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:22, 31 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-31T04:22:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-10-31T01:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-31T04:22:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-10-31T01:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-03T02:10:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section"></span>Sneak attack</b> ??? Give me a break. You're the one who keeps posting crackpot theories in an encyclopedia.--<a href="/wiki/User:Rulesfan" title="User:Rulesfan">Rulesfan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Rulesfan-2006-11-03T02:10:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:10, 3 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-03T02:10:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-03T02:10:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-05T23:27:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section"></span>Grant, you continue to write as though the audience reading this article are familiar with the sport of Australian rules. How are people supposed to know that Australian rules originated in Victoria and put two and two together. Your edits are about as useful as tits on a bull. By the way, adding the words "Circumstantial evidence" helps your claim of a relationship because if you have studied law or philosophy you'd note that CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE = THEORY --<a href="/wiki/User:Rulesfan" title="User:Rulesfan">Rulesfan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Rulesfan-2006-11-05T23:27:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:27, 5 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-05T23:27:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-05T23:27:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grant65-2006-11-06T07:32:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-11-05T23:27:00.000Z"></span>Which part of the sentence "Australian rules was devised in Melbourne, in the Colony of Victoria, from 1858" do you think that people won't understand? Where have I ever said that the idea that caid contributed to the development of Australian rules was more than a theory? You aren't making any sense. <a href="/wiki/User:Grant65" title="User:Grant65">Grant65</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grant65" title="User talk:Grant65">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Grant65-2006-11-06T07:32:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-11-05T23:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grant65-2006-11-06T07:32:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-11-05T23:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grant65-2006-11-06T07:32:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-11-05T23:27:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T00:29:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-11-06T07:32:00.000Z"></span>Well you persist on claiming a "relationship" rather than a theory when there is no evidence of a relationship. In any case, such a relationship, theory, or whatever, by the way that it is written should belong in the <a href="/wiki/Caid_(sport)" title="Caid (sport)">caid (sport)</a> article and not this one and a small mention to the comparison article is sufficient in the context of the Gaelic Football article. Anyone who wants to dig deeper can find the information they want there. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rulesfan" title="User:Rulesfan">Rulesfan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T00:29:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-11-06T07:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:29, 9 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T00:29:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-11-06T07:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T00:29:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-11-06T07:32:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grant65-2006-11-09T12:42:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T00:29:00.000Z"></span>Since the section in question is about is the <i>caid</i>-Australian rules-Gaelic connection, I have removed the following passage: "<a href="/wiki/Australian_rules_football" title="Australian rules football">Australian rules</a> was devised in <a href="/wiki/Melbourne" title="Melbourne">Melbourne</a>, in the <a href="/wiki/Victoria_(Australia)" class="mw-redirect" title="Victoria (Australia)">Colony of Victoria</a>, from <a href="/wiki/1858" title="1858">1858</a>. It is generally agreed that the founder of Australian rules, <a href="/wiki/Tom_Wills" title="Tom Wills">Tom Wills</a>, was strongly influenced by <a href="/wiki/Rugby_football" title="Rugby football">rugby football</a>. However, there were many Irish in Victoria as a result of the <a href="/wiki/Victorian_Gold_Rush" class="mw-redirect" title="Victorian Gold Rush">Victorian goldrushes of the 1850s</a>". I hope that is acceptable to you(?) and others. <a href="/wiki/User:Grant65" title="User:Grant65">Grant65</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grant65" title="User talk:Grant65">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Grant65-2006-11-09T12:42:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T00:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:42, 9 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grant65-2006-11-09T12:42:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T00:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grant65-2006-11-09T12:42:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T00:29:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grant65-2006-11-09T12:46:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T00:29:00.000Z"></span>And to answer your previous comment, while there may not have been a relationship in 1858 or even 1887, there clearly has been one since 1967 and all angles of that (including <i>theories</i> about caid having an influence on Aussie rules in the 1850s) should be represented. The article does not say that there are hard and fast links, merely that there may have been. <a href="/wiki/User:Grant65" title="User:Grant65">Grant65</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grant65" title="User talk:Grant65">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Grant65-2006-11-09T12:46:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T00:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:46, 9 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grant65-2006-11-09T12:46:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T00:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grant65-2006-11-09T12:46:00.000Z-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T00:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T23:02:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-11-09T12:46:00.000Z"></span>I assume the clear "relationship" since 1967 of which you speak is referring to the game of International Rules. Can you call this a relationship ? It has been somewhat tenuous if best, and no better way to highlight the obvious differences by way of continuing controversy. The existence of a hybrid does not per se confirm a relationship. If so, there would be a relationship between Aussie Rules and American Football, because of existence of the game of <a href="/wiki/Austus" title="Austus">Austus</a> and a relationship between Aussie Rules and Rugby League, because of the existencs of the game of <a href="/wiki/Universal_football" title="Universal football">Universal football</a>. As for <a href="/wiki/Players_who_have_converted_from_one_football_code_to_another" class="mw-redirect" title="Players who have converted from one football code to another">Players who have converted from one football code to another</a> supporting a relationship, this is also a pretty weak argument, as more Aussie Rules players have converted to American football than Gaelic players to Aussie Rules. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rulesfan" title="User:Rulesfan">Rulesfan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T23:02:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-11-09T12:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:02, 9 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T23:02:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-11-09T12:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T23:02:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-11-09T12:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grant65-2006-11-10T01:32:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section"></span>A relationship of 39 years standing is tenuous? Come off it. By way of comparison, there is <i>no</i> formal interaction between American football and Canadian football, which are more closely related. I haven't seen too many games of Austus or Universal footy recently. If Australian rules were offering the kind of salaries to rookies which are available to geriatric ex-AFL kickers in the NFL, then the trickle of Gaelic players might be a flood. <a href="/wiki/User:Grant65" title="User:Grant65">Grant65</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grant65" title="User talk:Grant65">Talk</a> 01:32, 10 November 2006 (UTC) I'm starting to get the impression that you would like to sever the relationship in real life as well as on Wikipedia(?) <a href="/wiki/User:Grant65" title="User:Grant65">Grant65</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grant65" title="User talk:Grant65">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Grant65-2006-11-10T01:32:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:36, 10 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grant65-2006-11-10T01:32:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grant65-2006-11-10T01:32:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-10T04:59:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-11-10T01:32:00.000Z"></span>I think that 111 years is tenuous, which is the difference in years between 1858 and 1957. That is a hell of a long time for zero interaction between two countries and codes which are supposedly so closely related. As for converts, Grant, I know of plenty who've tried. Not all are successful however. Jim Stynes brother <a href="/wiki/Brian_Stynes" title="Brian Stynes">Brian Stynes</a> on case in point one case in point but there are a huge number more. One would think going from being paid nothing to being paid full-time would be just as much of an incentive to move overseas as those Aussies moving to the US in recent years. If the codes were so similar then we would have seen as many go from Gaelic to Aussie Rules as havef rom rugby league to rugby union and vice versa. And how many Aussie Rules players do you find successfully converting to Gaelic ? Zippo. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rulesfan" title="User:Rulesfan">Rulesfan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Rulesfan-2006-11-10T04:59:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-11-10T01:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:59, 10 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-10T04:59:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-11-10T01:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-10T04:59:00.000Z-Grant65-2006-11-10T01:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grant65-2006-11-10T07:04:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section"></span>Don't forget Gaelic is amateur. There would probably be a lot of converts if it was professional and I believe Gaelic teams in Australia have quite a few converts from amateur Aussie rules. As for the other direction, the Irish economy is now booming and AFL rookies earn a pittance, clearly not enough to persuade Gaelic players to leave career, family, etc and travel to other side of the world, on the off chance they can adjust to the oval ball. Whereas the AFL converts to NFL tend to be at the end of their careers -- <a href="/wiki/Darren_Bennett_(footballer)" class="mw-redirect" title="Darren Bennett (footballer)">Darren Bennett (footballer)</a> played his last NFL game at the age of 40! <a href="/wiki/User:Grant65" title="User:Grant65">Grant65</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grant65" title="User talk:Grant65">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Grant65-2006-11-10T07:04:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:04, 10 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grant65-2006-11-10T07:04:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grant65-2006-11-10T07:04:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spewmaster-2007-09-26T01:10:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section"></span>There are some rather embarrassed Irish historians in Australia at the moment, after a really landmark find by football historians. It is becoming harder and harder to knock the Aussie origins of footy <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.bananasinpyjamas.com/news/stories/2007/09/21/2039577.htm">http://www.bananasinpyjamas.com/news/stories/2007/09/21/2039577.htm</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Spewmaster" title="User:Spewmaster">Spewmaster</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Spewmaster-2007-09-26T01:10:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:10, 26 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spewmaster-2007-09-26T01:10:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spewmaster-2007-09-26T01:10:00.000Z-Aussie_Rules_connection_in_the_History_section"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gnevin-2007-09-26T07:35:00.000Z-Spewmaster-2007-09-26T01:10:00.000Z"></span>All that says i football was played in Australia in the 1850's and does nothing to prove or disprove a gaelic link , sure the link with Indigenous people and their games such as Marn Grook was already accepted (<a href="/wiki/User:Gnevin" title="User:Gnevin">Gnevin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Gnevin-2007-09-26T07:35:00.000Z-Spewmaster-2007-09-26T01:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:35, 26 September 2007 (UTC)</a>)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gnevin-2007-09-26T07:35:00.000Z-Spewmaster-2007-09-26T01:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gnevin-2007-09-26T07:35:00.000Z-Spewmaster-2007-09-26T01:10:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grant65-2007-09-26T11:37:00.000Z-Gnevin-2007-09-26T07:35:00.000Z"></span>Yes, and they could be playing a soccer-type game in that picture, interesting as it is.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>By the way, Wilfrid R. Prest & Kerrie Round's <i>The Wakefield Companion to South Australian History</i> (2001) says (p. 58): "The first recorded football match in South Australia was played in 1843 by Irish colonists celebrating St Patrick's Day..."<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://books.google.com/books?id=EDgPo8KWKh4C&pg=PA58&vq=l&sig=h5_rr7D1YeeZ62ktvv-Z3QEcZOk">[2]</a> This proves nothing of course, as we don't know what kind of football it was. But since rugby was not codified until 1845 and soccer not until 1863, we can be sure it wasn't either of them. A traditional game like <i>caid</i> is the only real candidate. <a href="/wiki/User:Grant65" title="User:Grant65"><span style="color:black">Grant</span></a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grant65" title="User talk:Grant65"><span style="color:black">Talk</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Grant65-2007-09-26T11:37:00.000Z-Gnevin-2007-09-26T07:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:37, 26 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grant65-2007-09-26T11:37:00.000Z-Gnevin-2007-09-26T07:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grant65-2007-09-26T11:37:00.000Z-Gnevin-2007-09-26T07:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Pictures_of_a_Pitch" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pictures_of_a_Pitch-2006-10-26T23:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pictures_of_a_Pitch-2006-10-26T23:53:00.000Z"></span>Pictures of a Pitch<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pictures_of_a_Pitch-2006-10-26T23:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Pictures of a Pitch"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T23:53:00.000Z-Pictures_of_a_Pitch"></span>Both Hurling and Gaelic football need this. Most other sports have it. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rulesfan" title="User:Rulesfan">Rulesfan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T23:53:00.000Z-Pictures_of_a_Pitch" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:53, 26 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T23:53:00.000Z-Pictures_of_a_Pitch"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-26T23:53:00.000Z-Pictures_of_a_Pitch"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T07:27:00.000Z-Pictures_of_a_Pitch"></span>I have added a picture of a pitch I created myself based on pictures of pitches. Hope it is accurate ! please let me know. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rulesfan" title="User:Rulesfan">Rulesfan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T07:27:00.000Z-Pictures_of_a_Pitch" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:27, 9 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T07:27:00.000Z-Pictures_of_a_Pitch"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rulesfan-2006-11-09T07:27:00.000Z-Pictures_of_a_Pitch"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="First_Rules_of_Gaelic_Football" data-mw-thread-id="h-First_Rules_of_Gaelic_Football-2006-10-31T00:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-First_Rules_of_Gaelic_Football-2006-10-31T00:31:00.000Z"></span>First Rules of Gaelic Football<span data-mw-comment-end="h-First_Rules_of_Gaelic_Football-2006-10-31T00:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: First Rules of Gaelic Football"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-31T00:31:00.000Z-First_Rules_of_Gaelic_Football"></span>Says they were published in United Journal in 1887, but what were they in a nutshell ? How similar was that game to what is played today. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rulesfan" title="User:Rulesfan">Rulesfan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Rulesfan-2006-10-31T00:31:00.000Z-First_Rules_of_Gaelic_Football" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:31, 31 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-31T00:31:00.000Z-First_Rules_of_Gaelic_Football"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-31T00:31:00.000Z-First_Rules_of_Gaelic_Football"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Kicking_photos_?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Kicking_photos_?-2006-10-31T01:32:00.000Z"><span id="Kicking_photos_.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Kicking_photos_?-2006-10-31T01:32:00.000Z"></span>Kicking photos ?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Kicking_photos_?-2006-10-31T01:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Kicking photos ?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-31T01:32:00.000Z-Kicking_photos_?"></span>It is football afterall, maybe some photos of the kicking action would help improve the article. --<a href="/wiki/User:Rulesfan" title="User:Rulesfan">Rulesfan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Rulesfan-2006-10-31T01:32:00.000Z-Kicking_photos_?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:32, 31 October 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-31T01:32:00.000Z-Kicking_photos_?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rulesfan-2006-10-31T01:32:00.000Z-Kicking_photos_?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Instructional_videos_on_DVD" data-mw-thread-id="h-Instructional_videos_on_DVD-2007-02-24T06:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Instructional_videos_on_DVD-2007-02-24T06:30:00.000Z"></span>Instructional videos on DVD<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Instructional_videos_on_DVD-2007-02-24T06:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Instructional videos on DVD"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-198.177.27.11-2007-02-24T06:30:00.000Z-Instructional_videos_on_DVD"></span>Does anybody know of a North American source for instructional videos (such as DVD or VHS) appropriate for teaching classes how to play Gaelic Football? </p><p>If not an instructional video, have there ever been any dramatic adaptations of Gaelic Football from literature (or real life historic matches) to cinematic form? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:198.177.27.11&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:198.177.27.11 (page does not exist)">198.177.27.11</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-198.177.27.11-2007-02-24T06:30:00.000Z-Instructional_videos_on_DVD" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:30, 24 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-198.177.27.11-2007-02-24T06:30:00.000Z-Instructional_videos_on_DVD"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-198.177.27.11-2007-02-24T06:30:00.000Z-Instructional_videos_on_DVD"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gnevin-2007-02-24T13:20:00.000Z-198.177.27.11-2007-02-24T06:30:00.000Z"></span>I'd suggest emailing either the GAA or some one at <a href="/wiki/North_American_GAA" class="mw-redirect" title="North American GAA">North American GAA</a> (<a href="/wiki/User:Gnevin" title="User:Gnevin">Gnevin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Gnevin-2007-02-24T13:20:00.000Z-198.177.27.11-2007-02-24T06:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:20, 24 February 2007 (UTC)</a>)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gnevin-2007-02-24T13:20:00.000Z-198.177.27.11-2007-02-24T06:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gnevin-2007-02-24T13:20:00.000Z-198.177.27.11-2007-02-24T06:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="History_Section" data-mw-thread-id="h-History_Section-2007-11-23T11:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-History_Section-2007-11-23T11:55:00.000Z"></span>History Section<span data-mw-comment-end="h-History_Section-2007-11-23T11:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: History Section"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kaeso_Dio-2007-11-23T11:55:00.000Z-History_Section"></span>Resemblance to <a href="/wiki/Caid_(sport)" title="Caid (sport)">caid</a>. I realise that they are linked but it seems to be copy and pasted with minor changes. <a href="/wiki/User:Kaeso_Dio" title="User:Kaeso Dio">Kaeso Dio</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kaeso_Dio" title="User talk:Kaeso Dio">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Kaeso_Dio-2007-11-23T11:55:00.000Z-History_Section" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:55, 23 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kaeso_Dio-2007-11-23T11:55:00.000Z-History_Section"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kaeso_Dio-2007-11-23T11:55:00.000Z-History_Section"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Gah"" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Gah"-2008-07-16T16:00:00.000Z"><span id=".22Gah.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Gah"-2008-07-16T16:00:00.000Z"></span>"Gah"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Gah"-2008-07-16T16:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: "Gah""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kwekubo-2008-07-16T16:00:00.000Z-"Gah""></span>Can someone provide a source for this spelling? It was always my understanding that this nickname is meant to be a phonetic pronunciation of GAA. And, when meant as an abbreviation of Gaelic Athletic Association, I have never come across anyone who did not spell out the letters GAA; "gah" is reserved for Gaelic football. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kwekubo" title="User:Kwekubo">Kwekubo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kwekubo" title="User talk:Kwekubo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Kwekubo-2008-07-16T16:00:00.000Z-"Gah"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:00, 16 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kwekubo-2008-07-16T16:00:00.000Z-"Gah""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kwekubo-2008-07-16T16:00:00.000Z-"Gah""></span> </p> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gnevin-2008-07-16T16:04:00.000Z-Kwekubo-2008-07-16T16:00:00.000Z"></span>Gah</i> is quite common in Dublin to refer to Gaelic football,will try to find more references <a href="/wiki/User:Gnevin" title="User:Gnevin">Gnevin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gnevin" title="User talk:Gnevin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Gnevin-2008-07-16T16:04:00.000Z-Kwekubo-2008-07-16T16:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:04, 16 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gnevin-2008-07-16T16:04:00.000Z-Kwekubo-2008-07-16T16:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gnevin-2008-07-16T16:04:00.000Z-Kwekubo-2008-07-16T16:00:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.independent.ie/national-news/plenty-to-give-out-about-for-the-dubs-1423216.html"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gnevin-2008-07-16T16:12:00.000Z-Gnevin-2008-07-16T16:04:00.000Z"></span>[3]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/the-odd-couple-soccer-and-gaa-remain-bitter-enemies-51143.html">[4]</a><a href="/wiki/User:Gnevin" title="User:Gnevin">Gnevin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gnevin" title="User talk:Gnevin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Gnevin-2008-07-16T16:12:00.000Z-Gnevin-2008-07-16T16:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:12, 16 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gnevin-2008-07-16T16:12:00.000Z-Gnevin-2008-07-16T16:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gnevin-2008-07-16T16:12:00.000Z-Gnevin-2008-07-16T16:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Illuminati16-2010-04-06T14:46:00.000Z-"Gah""></span>Ive played the game all my life and never heard it referred to as gah, for a start it makes no sense even as a nickname, gaa is an organisation with four sports, so how could anyone know what you meant by saying gah, you would never call soccer fifa unless referring to the computer game, i.e do you play fifa??? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Illuminati16" title="User:Illuminati16">Illuminati16</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Illuminati16" title="User talk:Illuminati16">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Illuminati16" title="Special:Contributions/Illuminati16">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Illuminati16-2010-04-06T14:46:00.000Z-"Gah"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:46, 6 April 2010 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Illuminati16-2010-04-06T14:46:00.000Z-"Gah""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Illuminati16-2010-04-06T14:46:00.000Z-"Gah""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gnevin-2010-04-19T00:25:00.000Z-Illuminati16-2010-04-06T14:46:00.000Z"></span>It's common up in the <a href="/wiki/Dublin" title="Dublin">big smoke</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Gnevin" title="User:Gnevin">Gnevin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gnevin" title="User talk:Gnevin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Gnevin-2010-04-19T00:25:00.000Z-Illuminati16-2010-04-06T14:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:25, 19 April 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gnevin-2010-04-19T00:25:00.000Z-Illuminati16-2010-04-06T14:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gnevin-2010-04-19T00:25:00.000Z-Illuminati16-2010-04-06T14:46:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gnevin-2012-04-16T08:58:00.000Z-Gnevin-2010-04-19T00:25:00.000Z"></span>Other <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://thescore.thejournal.ie/murphs-sideline-cut-welcome-to-my-world-223853-Sep2011/">ref</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Gnevin" title="User:Gnevin">Gnevin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gnevin" title="User talk:Gnevin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Gnevin-2012-04-16T08:58:00.000Z-Gnevin-2010-04-19T00:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:58, 16 April 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gnevin-2012-04-16T08:58:00.000Z-Gnevin-2010-04-19T00:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gnevin-2012-04-16T08:58:00.000Z-Gnevin-2010-04-19T00:25:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Brocach-2012-04-16T19:34:00.000Z-Gnevin-2012-04-16T08:58:00.000Z"></span>Having 50+ years' connection with the sports, and having travelled widely among the GAA community, I have only (and very rarely) heard it used to refer to the Association, not to any particular sport, and invariably in a mocking sense. It is not a Gaelic sports term. <a href="/wiki/User:Brocach" title="User:Brocach">Brocach</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Brocach" title="User talk:Brocach">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Brocach-2012-04-16T19:34:00.000Z-Gnevin-2012-04-16T08:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:34, 16 April 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Brocach-2012-04-16T19:34:00.000Z-Gnevin-2012-04-16T08:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Brocach-2012-04-16T19:34:00.000Z-Gnevin-2012-04-16T08:58:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gnevin-2012-04-17T08:45:00.000Z-Brocach-2012-04-16T19:34:00.000Z"></span>Living in Dublin I've heard it used a lot and it's not about what me and use have heard it has references supporting it. There are 5 references to support my usage <a href="/wiki/User:Gnevin" title="User:Gnevin">Gnevin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gnevin" title="User talk:Gnevin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Gnevin-2012-04-17T08:45:00.000Z-Brocach-2012-04-16T19:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:45, 17 April 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gnevin-2012-04-17T08:45:00.000Z-Brocach-2012-04-16T19:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gnevin-2012-04-17T08:45:00.000Z-Brocach-2012-04-16T19:34:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fmph-2012-04-17T10:57:00.000Z-Gnevin-2012-04-17T08:45:00.000Z"></span>Definitely widely used in the greater Dublin area, probably not in GAA circles, as a dab term for Gaelic Football.nmay be used to refer to the association, but primarily as a dab amongst various forms of football. <a href="/wiki/User:Fmph" title="User:Fmph">Fmph</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fmph" title="User talk:Fmph">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Fmph-2012-04-17T10:57:00.000Z-Gnevin-2012-04-17T08:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:57, 17 April 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fmph-2012-04-17T10:57:00.000Z-Gnevin-2012-04-17T08:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fmph-2012-04-17T10:57:00.000Z-Gnevin-2012-04-17T08:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Brocach-2012-04-20T12:40:00.000Z-"Gah""></span>The alleged currency of the noise "gah" in non-GAA circles in Dublin does not amount to Gaelic football being "commonly referred to" as "gah", so I am again deleting the assertion that it is. <a href="/wiki/User:Brocach" title="User:Brocach">Brocach</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Brocach" title="User talk:Brocach">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Brocach-2012-04-20T12:40:00.000Z-"Gah"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:40, 20 April 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Brocach-2012-04-20T12:40:00.000Z-"Gah""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Brocach-2012-04-20T12:40:00.000Z-"Gah""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Brocach-2012-04-20T15:44:00.000Z-Brocach-2012-04-20T12:40:00.000Z"></span>Find some references and stop edit warring.</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>To whoever made the above unsigned comment - it is of course impossible to find a reference stating that the noise "gah" is not commonly used as an alternative to "Gaelic football", any more than one stating that "ugh", "foh" or "brp" are not commonly used. It would in principle be possible to find a source showing that any of these terms were commonly used, but no-one has yet done so. <a href="/wiki/User:Brocach" title="User:Brocach">Brocach</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Brocach" title="User talk:Brocach">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Brocach-2012-04-20T15:44:00.000Z-Brocach-2012-04-20T12:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:44, 20 April 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Brocach-2012-04-20T15:44:00.000Z-Brocach-2012-04-20T12:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Brocach-2012-04-20T15:44:00.000Z-Brocach-2012-04-20T12:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Slane_in_1712" data-mw-thread-id="h-Slane_in_1712-2008-11-09T13:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Slane_in_1712-2008-11-09T13:46:00.000Z"></span>Slane in 1712<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Slane_in_1712-2008-11-09T13:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Slane in 1712"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-86.44.1.115-2008-11-09T13:46:00.000Z-Slane_in_1712"></span>Right, buachaillí, do any of ye have a source for the claim that the first record of football is in Slane in 1712, as the article currently says? Thanks/Míle Bhuíochas. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.44.1.115" title="Special:Contributions/86.44.1.115">86.44.1.115</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:86.44.1.115&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:86.44.1.115 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-86.44.1.115-2008-11-09T13:46:00.000Z-Slane_in_1712" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-86.44.1.115-2008-11-09T13:46:00.000Z-Slane_in_1712"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-86.44.1.115-2008-11-09T13:46:00.000Z-Slane_in_1712"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jorgenpfhartogs-2013-08-28T12:17:00.000Z-Slane_in_1712"></span>The first record of football is from 1308. Added this to the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Jorgenpfhartogs" title="User:Jorgenpfhartogs">Jorgenpfhartogs</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jorgenpfhartogs" title="User talk:Jorgenpfhartogs">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Jorgenpfhartogs-2013-08-28T12:17:00.000Z-Slane_in_1712" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:17, 28 August 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jorgenpfhartogs-2013-08-28T12:17:00.000Z-Slane_in_1712"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jorgenpfhartogs-2013-08-28T12:17:00.000Z-Slane_in_1712"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Popularity_Claims" data-mw-thread-id="h-Popularity_Claims"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Popularity_Claims"></span>Popularity Claims<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Popularity_Claims"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Popularity Claims"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <blockquote> <p>It is, together with hurling, currently one of the two most popular spectator sports in Ireland.[1] </p> </blockquote> <p>Personally I have no issue with the statement. However technically the citation does not support the claim and is not adequate for an opening paragraph assertion. The reference given does not make any claims of popularity. It simply states attendance figures - not a complete popularity measure by itself. Also it does not make any reasonable comparisons with other sports. From the GAA figures for both sports one can deduce a relatively equal attendance. But it doesn't give a sense of the total audience or participation in the context of other popular sports such as soccer and rugby. </p><p>Also the source is out-dated. So unless a better source can be found the correct statement based on the supporting citation should be: </p> <blockquote> <p>According to 2006 GAA attendance figures, gaelic football and also hurling attract a large number of spectators in Ireland.[1] </p> </blockquote> <p>Unless there are any objections, I will make this change. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Shoulder_Charging" data-mw-thread-id="h-Shoulder_Charging-2009-05-13T21:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Shoulder_Charging-2009-05-13T21:05:00.000Z"></span>Shoulder Charging<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Shoulder_Charging-2009-05-13T21:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Shoulder Charging"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-0807127c-2009-05-13T21:05:00.000Z-Shoulder_Charging"></span>I think this might be a bit vague? Surely this implys that shoulder charging from the front and back are legal? Anyone have any complaints about changing it to "shoulder to shoulder contact" or something like that? <a href="/wiki/User:0807127c" title="User:0807127c">Kyro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:0807127c" title="User talk:0807127c">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-0807127c-2009-05-13T21:05:00.000Z-Shoulder_Charging" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:05, 13 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-0807127c-2009-05-13T21:05:00.000Z-Shoulder_Charging"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-0807127c-2009-05-13T21:05:00.000Z-Shoulder_Charging"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="2005" data-mw-thread-id="h-2005-2011-06-14T00:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-2005-2011-06-14T00:39:00.000Z"></span>2005<span data-mw-comment-end="h-2005-2011-06-14T00:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: 2005"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrew_Gwilliam-2011-06-14T00:39:00.000Z-2005"></span>I have removed the following text from the section "All-Ireland Final":<br/> </p> <blockquote><p>"However, the 2005 All-Ireland final was played on the fourth Sunday of the month, due to overlapping TV coverage of the <a href="/wiki/Ryder_Cup" title="Ryder Cup">Ryder Cup</a> tournament by <a href="/wiki/RT%C3%89" title="RTÉ">RTÉ</a>."</p></blockquote> <p>As clumsily stated by someone in the section "See also" (before I removed it as well): "There was no ryder cup in 2005".<br/> If that first chunk of removed text contains any truth in it, someone can hopefully sort out what the article should actually be saying about it!<br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Gwilliam" title="User:Andrew Gwilliam">Andrew Gwilliam</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Gwilliam" title="User talk:Andrew Gwilliam">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Andrew_Gwilliam-2011-06-14T00:39:00.000Z-2005" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:39, 14 June 2011 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrew_Gwilliam-2011-06-14T00:39:00.000Z-2005"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrew_Gwilliam-2011-06-14T00:39:00.000Z-2005"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Prior,_1997"" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Prior,_1997"-2011-06-14T17:37:00.000Z"><span id=".22Prior.2C_1997.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Prior,_1997"-2011-06-14T17:37:00.000Z"></span>"Prior, 1997"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Prior,_1997"-2011-06-14T17:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: "Prior, 1997""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrew_Gwilliam-2011-06-14T17:37:00.000Z-"Prior,_1997""></span>There are two references in the "History" section to "Prior, 1997". Can someone expand this reference into something more useful? <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Gwilliam" title="User:Andrew Gwilliam">Andrew Gwilliam</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Gwilliam" title="User talk:Andrew Gwilliam">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Andrew_Gwilliam-2011-06-14T17:37:00.000Z-"Prior,_1997"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:37, 14 June 2011 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrew_Gwilliam-2011-06-14T17:37:00.000Z-"Prior,_1997""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrew_Gwilliam-2011-06-14T17:37:00.000Z-"Prior,_1997""></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ball_Size?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ball_Size?-2020-01-09T18:47:00.000Z"><span id="Ball_Size.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ball_Size?-2020-01-09T18:47:00.000Z"></span>Ball Size?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ball_Size?-2020-01-09T18:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: Ball Size?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wschart-2020-01-09T18:47:00.000Z-Ball_Size?"></span>Looking at the article it says the ball has a "circumference of 69-74cm (27-29')". I've not seen the game but surely that isn't right? Unless the players really are 6m tall and it's just a scale thing.... </p><p>Perhaps your confusing circumference with diameter. The stated range of circumference is similar to soccer balls, volleyballs and even basketballs and is not out of whack with the pictures in this article. <a href="/wiki/User:Wschart" title="User:Wschart">Wschart</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wschart" title="User talk:Wschart">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Wschart-2020-01-09T18:47:00.000Z-Ball_Size?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:47, 9 January 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wschart-2020-01-09T18:47:00.000Z-Ball_Size?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wschart-2020-01-09T18:47:00.000Z-Ball_Size?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="GAA_Football_Team_of_the_Century" data-mw-thread-id="h-GAA_Football_Team_of_the_Century"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-GAA_Football_Team_of_the_Century"></span>GAA Football Team of the Century<span data-mw-comment-end="h-GAA_Football_Team_of_the_Century"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: GAA Football Team of the Century"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Anybody got information on the Football team of the century ?. It was a team selected by the GAA as part of their centenary year celebrations in 1984 to pick the best gaelic football team in the first 100 years of the GAA. It was something similar to the way the GAA picked a Team of the millenium only it was picked in 1984. I have heard people talking about various players who were picked on it but can not find the actual team picked on the internet. Will put it in as a wikipedia page if I find it. Leo1977 12:54, 30 October 2011 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Leo1977&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Leo1977 (page does not exist)">Leo1977</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Leo1977" title="User talk:Leo1977">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Leo1977" title="Special:Contributions/Leo1977">contribs</a>) </span></small> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Rules" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rules-2013-01-30T12:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rules-2013-01-30T12:10:00.000Z"></span>Rules<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rules-2013-01-30T12:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Rules"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cos_Nua-2013-01-30T12:10:00.000Z-Rules"></span>Worth mentioning new rules or at least a section on new rules that were trialed? for example the Black Card. <a href="/wiki/User:Cos_Nua" title="User:Cos Nua">Cos Nua</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Cos_Nua-2013-01-30T12:10:00.000Z-Rules" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:10, 30 January 2013 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cos_Nua-2013-01-30T12:10:00.000Z-Rules"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cos_Nua-2013-01-30T12:10:00.000Z-Rules"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Metric_to_imperial." data-mw-thread-id="h-Metric_to_imperial."><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Metric_to_imperial."></span>Metric to imperial.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Metric_to_imperial."></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: Metric to imperial."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>The length of the pitch should be 130m to 145m. This is correct but does not convrt to 100-200 yards as in the article. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Metric_to_imperial._2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Metric_to_imperial._2"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Metric_to_imperial._2"></span>Metric to imperial.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Metric_to_imperial._2"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: Metric to imperial."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>The length of the pitch should be 130m to 145m. This is correct but does not convert to 100-200 yards as in the article. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Name_in_Irish" data-mw-thread-id="h-Name_in_Irish-2014-02-06T17:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Name_in_Irish-2014-02-06T17:17:00.000Z"></span>Name in Irish<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Name_in_Irish-2014-02-06T17:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: Name in Irish"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tupolevjet-2014-02-06T17:17:00.000Z-Name_in_Irish"></span>In Irish it's peil/peile not peil ghealach <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Tupolevjet" title="User:Tupolevjet">Tupolevjet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tupolevjet" title="User talk:Tupolevjet">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tupolevjet" title="Special:Contributions/Tupolevjet">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Tupolevjet-2014-02-06T17:17:00.000Z-Name_in_Irish" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:17, 6 February 2014 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tupolevjet-2014-02-06T17:17:00.000Z-Name_in_Irish"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tupolevjet-2014-02-06T17:17:00.000Z-Name_in_Irish"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Murry1975-2014-02-06T20:33:00.000Z-Tupolevjet-2014-02-06T17:17:00.000Z"></span>Peile isnt right, its used when a verb is used with the noun (peile)- <b>ag imirt peile</b>, playing football, or looking at football, <b>ag féachaint ar peile</b>. Here are two good examples of peil ghaelach;</dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.gaelscoiladhamhnain.com/Sprt-Sport/Peil-Ghealach-Gaelic-Football">a Gealscoil in Donegal</a></dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.tcd.ie/Communications/news/pressreleases/pressRelease.php?headerID=1651">And Trinity College Dublin</a></dd> <dd>Two very good sources for peil ghaelach. <a href="/wiki/User:Murry1975" title="User:Murry1975">Murry1975</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Murry1975" title="User talk:Murry1975">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Murry1975-2014-02-06T20:33:00.000Z-Tupolevjet-2014-02-06T17:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:33, 6 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Murry1975-2014-02-06T20:33:00.000Z-Tupolevjet-2014-02-06T17:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Murry1975-2014-02-06T20:33:00.000Z-Tupolevjet-2014-02-06T17:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Murry1975-2014-02-08T19:12:00.000Z-Murry1975-2014-02-06T20:33:00.000Z"></span>And now reverting to your poor edit version without addition to this discussion. Peil/Peil Ghealach or even caid (though caid is a different version), are all used in Irish, as I have shown by the examples above. <a href="/wiki/User:Murry1975" title="User:Murry1975">Murry1975</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Murry1975" title="User talk:Murry1975">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Murry1975-2014-02-08T19:12:00.000Z-Murry1975-2014-02-06T20:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:12, 8 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Murry1975-2014-02-08T19:12:00.000Z-Murry1975-2014-02-06T20:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Murry1975-2014-02-08T19:12:00.000Z-Murry1975-2014-02-06T20:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Televi(s)zed_matches?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Televi(s)zed_matches?-2014-11-26T00:50:00.000Z"><span id="Televi.28s.29zed_matches.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Televi(s)zed_matches?-2014-11-26T00:50:00.000Z"></span>Televi(s)zed matches?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Televi(s)zed_matches?-2014-11-26T00:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: Televi(s)zed matches?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Boy_in_the_bands-2014-11-26T00:50:00.000Z-Televi(s)zed_matches?"></span>We have televized matches in Washington, D.C., USA fed from G4 in Ireland. 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I google'd 'orifice guard' and there is no mention of such a thing. Surely it is a mouthguard, the human body has several orifices but I think the only one in question here is the mouth. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Andrew_ranfurly&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Andrew ranfurly (page does not exist)">Andrew ranfurly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_ranfurly" title="User talk:Andrew ranfurly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-Andrew_ranfurly-2020-05-30T23:43:00.000Z-Orifice_guard_-_really?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:43, 30 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrew_ranfurly-2020-05-30T23:43:00.000Z-Orifice_guard_-_really?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrew_ranfurly-2020-05-30T23:43:00.000Z-Orifice_guard_-_really?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Intersex" data-mw-thread-id="h-Intersex-20240319222400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Intersex-20240319222400"></span>Intersex<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Intersex-20240319222400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: Intersex"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-75.115.148.17-20240319222400-Intersex"></span>read intersex no. I was watching a game navy vs notre dame, navy's men's team had female players one goalie, at least one on the pitch <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/75.115.148.17" title="Special:Contributions/75.115.148.17">75.115.148.17</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:75.115.148.17&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:75.115.148.17 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaelic_football#c-75.115.148.17-20240319222400-Intersex" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:24, 19 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-75.115.148.17-20240319222400-Intersex"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-75.115.148.17-20240319222400-Intersex"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&oldid=1255983158">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaelic_football&oldid=1255983158</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_articles_that_use_Hiberno-English" title="Category:Wikipedia articles that use Hiberno-English">Wikipedia articles that use Hiberno-English</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_In_the_news_articles" title="Category:Wikipedia In the news articles">Wikipedia In the news articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:B-Class_level-5_vital_articles" title="Category:B-Class level-5 vital articles">B-Class level-5 vital articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_level-5_vital_articles_in_Everyday_life" title="Category:Wikipedia level-5 vital articles in Everyday life">Wikipedia level-5 vital articles in Everyday life</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:B-Class_vital_articles_in_Everyday_life" title="Category:B-Class vital articles in Everyday life">B-Class vital articles in Everyday life</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:B-Class_Gaelic_games_articles" title="Category:B-Class Gaelic games articles">B-Class Gaelic games articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Top-importance_Gaelic_games_articles" title="Category:Top-importance Gaelic games articles">Top-importance Gaelic games articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Gaelic_games_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Gaelic games articles">WikiProject Gaelic games articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:B-Class_Ireland_articles" title="Category:B-Class Ireland articles">B-Class Ireland articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:High-importance_Ireland_articles" title="Category:High-importance Ireland articles">High-importance Ireland articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:B-Class_Ireland_articles_of_High-importance" title="Category:B-Class Ireland articles of High-importance">B-Class Ireland articles of High-importance</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:All_WikiProject_Ireland_pages" title="Category:All WikiProject Ireland pages">All WikiProject Ireland pages</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:B-Class_sports_articles" title="Category:B-Class sports articles">B-Class sports articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Sports_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Sports articles">WikiProject Sports articles</a></li></ul></div><div id="mw-hidden-catlinks" class="mw-hidden-catlinks mw-hidden-cats-hidden">Hidden category: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:All_Wikipedia_vital_articles" title="Category:All Wikipedia vital articles">All Wikipedia vital articles</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 7 November 2024, at 16:29<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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