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style="font-size: 68.75%;">6: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 17:14:56.21 ID:f4JM46rK0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b t_i" style="font-weight:bold;"> <span style="color:mediumblue;" class="anchor">>>3</span> <br /> もうあいつらは下請けになる以外の条件はない </div><br /> <div class="t_h t_i" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">25: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 17:37:28.68 ID:BgOXZYJI0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b t_i" style="font-weight:bold;"> <span style="color:mediumblue;" class="anchor">>>6</span> <br /> なんかワロタ <br /> いやその通りだと思うけど </div><br /> <div class="t_h t_i" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">44: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 18:24:18.38 ID:7ep8afQm0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b t_i" style="font-weight:bold;color:#ff0000;"> <span style="color:mediumblue;" class="anchor">>>3</span> <br /> 日産が一方的に言ってるだけで、もう破談になってるぞ </div><br /> <div class="t_h" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">4: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 17:14:02.45 ID:isMbp6eJ0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b" style="font-weight:bold;"> 日産はタイトーと協業したら? </div><br /> <div class="t_h" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">5: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 17:14:04.83 ID:wVFkh4zq0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b" style="font-weight:bold;color:#ff0000;"> EVバッテリー関してはもう完全に手遅れ <br /> <br /> 国民を苦しめるだけだから止めて欲しい </div><br /> <div class="t_h" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">7: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 17:16:06.24 ID:iZLSU+5D0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b" style="font-weight:bold;"> トヨタって電池に1兆円投資してるから強いよ </div><br /> <div class="t_h" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">8: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 17:16:08.18 ID:SkU2apI/0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b" style="font-weight:bold;color:#ff0000;"> もう日本企業はどことどこがタッグ組んでも巻き返しは無理だろ </div><br /> <div class="t_h t_i" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">14: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 17:19:35.80 ID:ZnWjO9NX0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b t_i" style="font-weight:bold;"> <span style="color:mediumblue;" class="anchor">>>8</span> <br /> 要するに <br /> BYDはトヨタと組んでも全くの無駄で <br /> 結局中国国内でも粉飾決済で赤字を黒字に変えてただけで滅びの一途を辿るだけと </div><br /> <div class="t_h t_i" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">24: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 17:36:24.69 ID:L/uG2MGs0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b t_i" style="font-weight:bold;"> <span style="color:mediumblue;" class="anchor">>>14</span> <br /> 世界トップ企業のトヨタですら中国の意向を無視する事は出来ないという事だわ </div><br /> <div class="t_h" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">11: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 17:16:55.53 ID:mb2C5DZX0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b" style="font-weight:bold;"> なんだかんだホンダもトヨタの軍門に下るのか </div><br /> <div class="t_h" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">13: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 17:19:27.47 ID:EuERG0eu0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b" style="font-weight:bold;color:#ff0000;"> トヨタは水素エンジンを頑張って欲しい所だが、日本で協力するのはありだな </div><br /> <div class="t_h" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">18: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 17:22:21.33 ID:k9/R1x0J0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b" style="font-weight:bold;"> 日産よりも日本酸素ホールディングスの方が国内シェア一位、世界シェア四位の産業ガスの重要企業 </div><br /> <div class="t_h" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">19: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 17:24:00.65 ID:wVFkh4zq0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b" style="font-weight:bold;"> 液晶パネルの時も既に巻き返し不可能の手遅れだったにも関わらず <br /> 日本はスゴイ、日本なら出来る、技術立国みたな精神論振り回し <br /> シャープが壮絶に爆死して社会に大迷惑をかけたよな </div><br /> <div class="t_h" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">21: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 17:27:32.47 ID:g2nuu9P40</span></span></div> <div class="t_b" style="font-weight:bold;"> 日産にはe-POWERがあるから </div><br /> <div class="t_h" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">27: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 17:41:34.12 ID:fsZKIWQN0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b" style="font-weight:bold;"> 内田誠がこじらせたんだからコイツに退職金と役員報酬をやってはならない <br /> 何年も日産の社長に居座ったのに何も成していないまさに無能の中の無能 </div><br /> <div class="t_h" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">28: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 17:42:35.76 ID:qF7oUiaZ0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b" style="font-weight:bold;color:#ff0000;"> 全個体電池とか、繊維電池とかその内完成するから同盟結んでたほうがいいよ!中国のは怪しいんだよな </div><br /> <div class="t_h t_i" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">46: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 18:25:23.14 ID:7ep8afQm0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b t_i" style="font-weight:bold;"> <span style="color:mediumblue;" class="anchor">>>28</span> <br /> 固体も書けない子… </div><br /> <div class="t_h" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">31: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 17:45:11.17 ID:ZZnFxVCW0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b" style="font-weight:bold;"> 日産知らないうちに仲間外れになっていくんだろうな </div><br /> <div class="t_h" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">35: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 17:48:59.49 ID:Yd3SqVOE0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b" style="font-weight:bold;"> トヨタもエンジン開発部門をリストラ済 </div><br /> <div class="t_h" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">37: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 17:58:32.29 ID:3i0rTnoM0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b" style="font-weight:bold;color:#ff0000;"> トヨタはリチウムイオン電池や全固体電池など次世代電池も莫大な資金を投資してる <br /> HVより使えるとなるとEVを量産するよ </div><br /> <div class="t_h" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">52: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 18:39:44.79 ID:TmCfDaaj0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b" style="font-weight:bold;color:#ff0000;"> トヨタも日産もバッテリー工場を福岡県に作ってる最中 </div><br /> <div class="t_h" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">53: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 18:40:54.74 ID:t/6WXtOM0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b" style="font-weight:bold;"> 二輪の方はどうするの? <br /> カワサキがすでに出してるけどホンダもくる? </div><br /> <div class="t_h t_i" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">55: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 18:49:54.21 ID:x0VJdcXx0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b t_i" style="font-weight:bold;"> <span style="color:mediumblue;" class="anchor">>>53</span> <br /> ホンダは随分前からバッテリモジュールやってるやん <br /> たしかヤマハも噛んでる </div><br /> <div class="t_h" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">54: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 18:42:27.44 ID:UBD4qz+u0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b" style="font-weight:bold;"> もしかして全固体電池でハイブリッド作ったらヤバイ事になるんじゃ... </div><br /> <div class="t_h" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">56: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 18:55:33.57 ID:n4TDD1gH0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b" style="font-weight:bold;"> 冬が駄目なんだけどな <br /> それでも割り切ってHVが売れるのかな </div><br /> <div class="t_h" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">57: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 18:58:36.51 ID:FwOImZZZ0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b" style="font-weight:bold;"> もう日産の付け入る隙もなさそうで草 </div><br /> <div class="t_h" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">58: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 19:03:17.33 ID:TCLuVyHg0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b" style="font-weight:bold;color:#ff0000;"> 共闘も何も米国内の工場から調達できるから買うってだけの話じゃないの </div><br /> <div class="t_h" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">60: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 19:19:33.19 ID:PeaXk2B+0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b" style="font-weight:bold;"> ホンダがトヨタの傘下に下っただけやん </div><br /> <div class="t_h" ><span style="font-size: 68.75%;">36: <span style="color: gray;"> 2025/03/19(水) 17:52:42.37 ID:NdKNI7+C0</span></span></div> <div class="t_b" style="font-weight:bold;color:#ff0000;"> 三菱も混ぜてあげて </div><br /> <span class="inyo" style="font-size:3px;"> <p style="color:gray;text-align:right;">引用元: <a href="https://hayabusa9.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/news/1742371966/" target="_blank">https://hayabusa9.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/news/1742371966/</a></p></span> <script src="/inner3.js" type="text/javascript" charset="UTF-8"></script> </div> <div id="ad2"></div> <!-- タグのリスト表示セット --> <br /> <!-- 記事本文 ここまで--> <!--おすすめリンク はじまり--> <div class="bottom-link" style=" height:600px;overflow:hidden; margin-bottom: 3px; margin-right: 2px; 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<p>kurumachannel</p> <p></p> <p>が<img src="https://parts.blog.livedoor.jp/img/comment2/blogger_liked.svg" alt="liked" class="blogger-liked-inline">しました</p> </div> <img src="https://parts.blog.livedoor.jp/img/comment2/blogger_liked.svg" alt="liked" class="blogger-liked"> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li><ul class="comment-reply-list"> <li class="comment-set v2 even reply" id="comment-3"> <ul class="comment-info"> <li class="comment-author">3. アホンダラ爺(笑) </li> <li class="comment-date">2025年03月20日 08:11</li> <li class="comment-body"> <a href="#comment-1">>>1</a><br> お前いつも誰かと勘違いして全て俺だと認定してるけど俺はEV好きではないぞ?<br> ただ大好きな内燃機関では性能で勝てないのは理解してるし乗れば凄い事も理解しとるだけ。<br> だから毎回予防線を張ったり興奮しなくてもいいからね?苦笑 </li> <li class="comment-reaction"> <div class="comment-reply toggle-reply-form" data-id="209558594" data-no="3"> <span class="reply-icon icon-comment-v2-arrow_off"></span> </div> <div class="comment-like off"> <div class="comment-like-icon" data-comment-no="3"> <span class="off"><img 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</li> <li class="comment-set v2 odd reply" id="comment-5"> <ul class="comment-info"> <li class="comment-author">5. 名無しさん </li> <li class="comment-date">2025年03月20日 08:40</li> <li class="comment-body"> <a href="#comment-3">>>3</a><br> いつも全員同じだと思い込んでるのはアホンダオヤジでは?😅<br> てか予防線て何?<br> よくわからないこと言われても困るんだけど、電池提供の話でアホンダオヤジをバカにして、米国でのHV需要増加でEVガイジをバカにしただけやけど<br> 気に入らなかったらごめんね🤭 </li> <li class="comment-reaction"> <div class="comment-reply toggle-reply-form" data-id="209558647" data-no="5"> <span class="reply-icon icon-comment-v2-arrow_off"></span> </div> <div class="comment-like off"> <div class="comment-like-icon" data-comment-no="5"> <span class="off"><img src="https://parts.blog.livedoor.jp/img/comment2/heart_off.svg" width="20" height="20"></span> <span class="hover"><img src="https://parts.blog.livedoor.jp/img/comment2/heart_hover.svg" width="20" height="20"></span> <span class="on"><img src="https://parts.blog.livedoor.jp/img/comment2/heart_on.svg" width="20" height="20"></span> <span 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トヨタパヨおぢ祭日も興奮してて草(笑) </li> <li class="comment-reaction"> <div class="comment-reply toggle-reply-form" data-id="209558934" data-no="11"> <span class="reply-icon icon-comment-v2-arrow_off"></span> </div> <div class="comment-like off"> <div class="comment-like-icon" data-comment-no="11"> <span class="off"><img src="https://parts.blog.livedoor.jp/img/comment2/heart_off.svg" width="20" height="20"></span> <span class="hover"><img src="https://parts.blog.livedoor.jp/img/comment2/heart_hover.svg" width="20" height="20"></span> <span class="on"><img src="https://parts.blog.livedoor.jp/img/comment2/heart_on.svg" width="20" height="20"></span> <span class="radius"></span> </div> </div> <span id="comment-like-count-11" class="comment-like-count">0</span> <div class="comment-blogger-liked" id="comment-blogger-liked-11"> <img src="https://member.livedoor.com/icon_img/kurumachannel_60.gif" alt="kurumachannel" class="blogger-icon"> <div class="comment-blogger-liked-tooltip comment-blogger-liked-tooltip-border-color"> <p>kurumachannel</p> <p></p> <p>が<img src="https://parts.blog.livedoor.jp/img/comment2/blogger_liked.svg" alt="liked" class="blogger-liked-inline">しました</p> </div> <img src="https://parts.blog.livedoor.jp/img/comment2/blogger_liked.svg" alt="liked" class="blogger-liked"> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul></li> <li class="comment-set v2 odd" id="comment-2"> <ul class="comment-info"> <li class="comment-author">2. 名無しさん </li> <li class="comment-date">2025年03月20日 08:08</li> <li class="comment-body"> 日産もトヨタと同じく中国に技術貰ってN7っていう高性能で安価なEV作って貰ったみたいやな。<br> たぶん勝てんからバッテリーも頂く方針でええと思うねんけどなぁ…<br> 国産だけじゃなく欧州系のEVも全て中国、テスラに駆逐されて終わると思うわ。 </li> <li class="comment-reaction"> <div class="comment-reply toggle-reply-form" data-id="209558581" data-no="2"> <span class="reply-icon icon-comment-v2-arrow_off"></span> </div> <div class="comment-like off"> <div class="comment-like-icon" data-comment-no="2"> <span class="off"><img 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</li> <li><ul class="comment-reply-list"> <li class="comment-set v2 even reply" id="comment-6"> <ul class="comment-info"> <li class="comment-author">6. 名無しさん </li> <li class="comment-date">2025年03月20日 08:42</li> <li class="comment-body"> <a href="#comment-2">>>2</a><br> ???「高性能EVとは航続距離と充電時間」 </li> <li class="comment-reaction"> <div class="comment-reply toggle-reply-form" data-id="209558649" data-no="6"> <span class="reply-icon icon-comment-v2-arrow_off"></span> </div> <div class="comment-like off"> <div class="comment-like-icon" data-comment-no="6"> <span class="off"><img src="https://parts.blog.livedoor.jp/img/comment2/heart_off.svg" width="20" height="20"></span> <span class="hover"><img src="https://parts.blog.livedoor.jp/img/comment2/heart_hover.svg" width="20" height="20"></span> <span class="on"><img src="https://parts.blog.livedoor.jp/img/comment2/heart_on.svg" width="20" height="20"></span> <span class="radius"></span> </div> </div> <span id="comment-like-count-6" class="comment-like-count">0</span> <div class="comment-blogger-liked" id="comment-blogger-liked-6"> <img src="https://member.livedoor.com/icon_img/kurumachannel_60.gif" alt="kurumachannel" class="blogger-icon"> <div class="comment-blogger-liked-tooltip comment-blogger-liked-tooltip-border-color"> <p>kurumachannel</p> <p></p> <p>が<img src="https://parts.blog.livedoor.jp/img/comment2/blogger_liked.svg" alt="liked" class="blogger-liked-inline">しました</p> </div> <img src="https://parts.blog.livedoor.jp/img/comment2/blogger_liked.svg" alt="liked" class="blogger-liked"> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment-set v2 odd reply" id="comment-12"> <ul class="comment-info"> <li class="comment-author">12. 名無しさん </li> <li class="comment-date">2025年03月20日 11:25</li> <li class="comment-body"> <a href="#comment-6">>>6</a><br> そうやろ?<br> 内燃機関にはほぼ全てにおいて勝ってる以上、他に何がある? </li> <li class="comment-reaction"> <div class="comment-reply toggle-reply-form" data-id="209558936" data-no="12"> <span 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下取り100万切ってるテスラが?<br> https://www.nikkei.com/prime/mobility/article/DGXZQOUC13AG80T10C25A3000000 </li> <li class="comment-reaction"> <div class="comment-reply toggle-reply-form" data-id="209559102" data-no="15"> <span class="reply-icon icon-comment-v2-arrow_off"></span> </div> <div class="comment-like off"> <div class="comment-like-icon" data-comment-no="15"> <span class="off"><img src="https://parts.blog.livedoor.jp/img/comment2/heart_off.svg" width="20" height="20"></span> <span class="hover"><img src="https://parts.blog.livedoor.jp/img/comment2/heart_hover.svg" width="20" height="20"></span> <span class="on"><img src="https://parts.blog.livedoor.jp/img/comment2/heart_on.svg" width="20" height="20"></span> <span class="radius"></span> </div> </div> <span id="comment-like-count-15" class="comment-like-count">0</span> <div class="comment-blogger-liked" id="comment-blogger-liked-15"> <img src="https://member.livedoor.com/icon_img/kurumachannel_60.gif" alt="kurumachannel" 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