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S. dependencies&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Coverage of U. S. dependencies&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thegreatdr-2008-01-04T21:40:00.000Z-Coverage_of_U._S._dependencies"></span>Since they are part of the United States, dependencies such as Guam, the U. S. Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, American Samoa, and the Northern Marianas may also need to be included within this article. <a href="/wiki/User:Thegreatdr" title="User:Thegreatdr">Thegreatdr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thegreatdr" title="User talk:Thegreatdr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Climate_of_the_United_States#c-Thegreatdr-2008-01-04T21:40:00.000Z-Coverage_of_U._S._dependencies" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:40, 4 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thegreatdr-2008-01-04T21:40:00.000Z-Coverage_of_U._S._dependencies"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-01-04T21:40:00.000Z","author":"Thegreatdr","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Thegreatdr-2008-01-04T21:40:00.000Z-Coverage_of_U._S._dependencies","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thegreatdr-2008-01-04T21:40:00.000Z-Coverage_of_U._S._dependencies"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Removal_of_gallery-like_section" data-mw-thread-id="h-Removal_of_gallery-like_section"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Removal_of_gallery-like_section"></span>Removal of gallery-like section<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Removal_of_gallery-like_section"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Climate_of_the_United_States&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: Removal of gallery-like section"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Removal_of_gallery-like_section","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>I removed the city graphs from the article, as they were unreferenced and gallery-like, which is something wikipedia is not. The change allows this article to conform with the recent changes made with the climate regime articles. ) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-97.87.29.188-2012-01-04T00:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Potential_WSJ_resources_with_NYC_focus,_but_USA_in_general_for_2011-2012-01-04T00:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-97.87.29.188-2012-01-04T00:21:00.000Z-Potential_WSJ_resources_with_NYC_focus,_but_USA_in_general_for_2011&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Potential WSJ resources with NYC focus, but USA in general for 2011&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Potential WSJ resources with NYC focus, but USA in general for 2011&quot;}--><h2 id="Potential_WSJ_resources_with_NYC_focus,_but_USA_in_general_for_2011" data-mw-thread-id="h-Potential_WSJ_resources_with_NYC_focus,_but_USA_in_general_for_2011-2012-01-04T00:21:00.000Z"><span id="Potential_WSJ_resources_with_NYC_focus.2C_but_USA_in_general_for_2011"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Potential_WSJ_resources_with_NYC_focus,_but_USA_in_general_for_2011-2012-01-04T00:21:00.000Z"></span>Potential <a href="/wiki/WSJ" class="mw-redirect" title="WSJ">WSJ</a> resources with <a href="/wiki/NYC" class="mw-redirect" title="NYC">NYC</a> focus, but USA in general for 2011<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Potential_WSJ_resources_with_NYC_focus,_but_USA_in_general_for_2011-2012-01-04T00:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Climate_of_the_United_States&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section: Potential WSJ resources with NYC focus, but USA in general for 2011"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-97.87.29.188-2012-01-04T00:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Potential_WSJ_resources_with_NYC_focus,_but_USA_in_general_for_2011-2012-01-04T00:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-97.87.29.188-2012-01-04T00:21:00.000Z-Potential_WSJ_resources_with_NYC_focus,_but_USA_in_general_for_2011"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-97.87.29.188-2012-01-04T00:21:00.000Z-Potential_WSJ_resources_with_NYC_focus,_but_USA_in_general_for_2011","timestamp":"2012-01-04T00:21:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-97.87.29.188-2012-01-04T00:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Potential_WSJ_resources_with_NYC_focus,_but_USA_in_general_for_2011-2012-01-04T00:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-97.87.29.188-2012-01-04T00:21:00.000Z-Potential_WSJ_resources_with_NYC_focus,_but_USA_in_general_for_2011&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Potential WSJ resources with NYC focus, but USA in general for 2011&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Potential WSJ resources with NYC focus, but USA in general for 2011&quot;}--></div></div></div> <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/12/30/weather-journal-warm-new-year-ends-snow-free-december/"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-97.87.29.188-2012-01-04T00:21:00.000Z-Potential_WSJ_resources_with_NYC_focus,_but_USA_in_general_for_2011"></span>Weather Journal: Warm New Year Ends Snow-Free December</a> December 30, 2011, 9:22 AM ET, excerpts ... <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1244412712">.mw-parser-output .templatequote{overflow:hidden;margin:1em 0;padding:0 32px}.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{line-height:1.5em;text-align:left;margin-top:0}@media(min-width:500px){.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{padding-left:1.6em}}</style><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>Provisionally ranked by the <a href="/wiki/World_Meteorological_Organization" title="World Meteorological Organization">World Meteorological Organization</a> as the 10th warmest year of all-time globally and one of the worst ever for disasters, the weather stories of 2011 will not soon be forgotten. In the U.S., it was either warm and dry (<a href="/wiki/Texas" title="Texas">Texas</a>) or warm and wet (the <a href="/wiki/Northeastern_United_States_(U.S._Census_Bureau)" class="mw-redirect" title="Northeastern United States (U.S. Census Bureau)">Northeast</a>). ... <b>2012 Preview</b>: According to the best long-range weather crystal balls currently available to modern science, 2012 is set to carry over some of the same weather and climate trends. According to <a href="/wiki/Columbia_University" title="Columbia University">Columbia University</a>’s <a href="/wiki/International_Research_Institute_for_Climate_and_Society" class="mw-redirect" title="International Research Institute for Climate and Society">International Research Institute for Climate and Society</a>, the current weak <a href="/wiki/La_Ni%C3%B1a" class="mw-redirect" title="La Niña">La Niña</a> should dissipate during the spring and then possibly morph into an <a href="/wiki/El_Ni%C3%B1o-Southern_Oscillation" class="mw-redirect" title="El Niño-Southern Oscillation">El Niño</a>. That would diminish hurricane chances across the <a href="/wiki/Atlantic_Ocean" title="Atlantic Ocean">Atlantic Ocean</a> but could also lead to another hot and rainy summer. The extremely warm winter should also continue, although snow during the latter part of the season (March) may still come out above normal. The <a href="/wiki/North_Atlantic_oscillation" title="North Atlantic oscillation">North Atlantic oscillation</a> will be a big driver of our snow chances for the rest of the winter: as long as this climate signal stays anomalously positive (signaling a stronger than average sub-polar jet stream), snow chances will remain minimal.</p></blockquote></li></ul> <p>Internal links ... </p> <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/12/16/weather-journal-a-little-bit-of-winter/">http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/12/16/weather-journal-a-little-bit-of-winter/</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.wmo.int/pages/mediacentre/press_releases/pr_935_en.html">http://www.wmo.int/pages/mediacentre/press_releases/pr_935_en.html</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.erh.noaa.gov/okx/climate/records/wetdryyearsmonths.html">http://www.erh.noaa.gov/okx/climate/records/wetdryyearsmonths.html</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/08/14/new-york-city-weather-rainy-monday/">http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/08/14/new-york-city-weather-rainy-monday/</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/08/30/weather-journal-sunny-week-rising-water/">http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/08/30/weather-journal-sunny-week-rising-water/</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/07/21/weather-journal-somehow-it-gets-even-hotter/">http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/07/21/weather-journal-somehow-it-gets-even-hotter/</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/06/09/weather-journal-heat-waves-goodbye-spring-returns/">http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/06/09/weather-journal-heat-waves-goodbye-spring-returns/</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/01/27/snowstorm-buries-city-again-closes-schools/">http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/01/27/snowstorm-buries-city-again-closes-schools/</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/08/23/earthquake-in-virginia-shakes-new-york-city/">http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/08/23/earthquake-in-virginia-shakes-new-york-city/</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/08/27/hurricane-irene-new-york-new-jersey-forecast-what-to-expect-for-landfall/">http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/08/27/hurricane-irene-new-york-new-jersey-forecast-what-to-expect-for-landfall/</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/04/28/weather-journal-clouds-gathered-but-no-tornado-damage/">http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/04/28/weather-journal-clouds-gathered-but-no-tornado-damage/</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/03/17/weather-journal-very-little-japanese-radiation-visits-new-york/">http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/03/17/weather-journal-very-little-japanese-radiation-visits-new-york/</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://portal.iri.columbia.edu/portal/server.pt?open=512&amp;objID=945&amp;PageID=0&amp;cached=true&amp;mode=2#plm">http://portal.iri.columbia.edu/portal/server.pt?open=512&amp;objID=945&amp;PageID=0&amp;cached=true&amp;mode=2#plm</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/wwang/cfs_fcst/images1/usT2mSea.gif">http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/wwang/cfs_fcst/images1/usT2mSea.gif</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/">http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/wwang/cfs_fcst/images1/usPrecSea.gif">http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/wwang/cfs_fcst/images1/usPrecSea.gif</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/nao.sprd2.gif">http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/nao.sprd2.gif</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/12/28/weather-journal-getting-colder-as-the-day-goes-by/">Weather Journal: Getting Colder as the Day Goes By</a> December 28, 2011, 8:16 AM ET by Catherine Vaughan, excerpt ... <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1244412712"><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>The <a href="/wiki/National_Oceanic_and_Atmospheric_Administration" title="National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration">National Oceanic and Atmospheric</a> Agency has declared 2011 one of the worst years for climate- and weather-related disasters in U.S. history. As Jack Hayes, director of the U.S. <a href="/wiki/National_Weather_Service" title="National Weather Service">National Weather Service</a>, explains in a video posted here, 2011 has seen record-breaking <a href="/wiki/Extreme_weather" title="Extreme weather">extremes</a> of nearly every conceivable kind of weather. In the US, we’ve also experienced 12 weather- or climate-related disasters that have totaled more that $1 billion dollars in damages each.</p></blockquote></li></ul> <p>Internal links </p> <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.noaa.gov/extreme2011/index.html">http://www.noaa.gov/extreme2011/index.html</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/25/science/earth/climate-scientists-hampered-in-study-of-2011-extremes.html?pagewanted=all">http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/25/science/earth/climate-scientists-hampered-in-study-of-2011-extremes.html?pagewanted=all</a></li></ul> <p><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/97.87.29.188" title="Special:Contributions/97.87.29.188">97.87.29.188</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:97.87.29.188" title="User talk:97.87.29.188">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Climate_of_the_United_States#c-97.87.29.188-2012-01-04T00:21:00.000Z-Potential_WSJ_resources_with_NYC_focus,_but_USA_in_general_for_2011" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:21, 4 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-97.87.29.188-2012-01-04T00:21:00.000Z-Potential_WSJ_resources_with_NYC_focus,_but_USA_in_general_for_2011"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-01-04T00:21:00.000Z","author":"97.87.29.188","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-97.87.29.188-2012-01-04T00:21:00.000Z-Potential_WSJ_resources_with_NYC_focus,_but_USA_in_general_for_2011","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-97.87.29.188-2012-01-04T00:21:00.000Z-Potential_WSJ_resources_with_NYC_focus,_but_USA_in_general_for_2011"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Student7-2012-03-10T13:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Sunspot_theory-2012-03-10T13:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Student7-2012-03-10T13:31:00.000Z-Sunspot_theory&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Sunspot theory&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Sunspot theory&quot;}--><h2 id="Sunspot_theory" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sunspot_theory-2012-03-10T13:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sunspot_theory-2012-03-10T13:31:00.000Z"></span>Sunspot theory<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sunspot_theory-2012-03-10T13:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Climate_of_the_United_States&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: Sunspot theory"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Student7-2012-03-10T13:31:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Sunspot_theory-2012-03-10T13:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Student7-2012-03-10T13:31:00.000Z-Sunspot_theory"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Student7-2012-03-10T13:31:00.000Z-Sunspot_theory","timestamp":"2012-03-10T13:31:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Student7-2012-03-10T13:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Sunspot_theory-2012-03-10T13:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Student7-2012-03-10T13:31:00.000Z-Sunspot_theory&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Sunspot theory&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Sunspot theory&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Student7-2012-03-10T13:31:00.000Z-Sunspot_theory"></span>This information, in the article for quite awhile, only applies to the United States. It was deleted: </p><p>"==Hurricanes - Sunspot theory== A 2010 report correlates low <a href="/wiki/Sunspot" title="Sunspot">sunspot</a> activity with high <a href="/wiki/Cyclone" title="Cyclone">hurricane</a> activity. Analyzing historical data, there was a 25% chance of at least one hurricane striking the continental US during a peak sunspot year; a 64% chance during a low sunspot year. In June 2010, the hurricanes predictors in the US were not using this information.(ref)<style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite id="CITEREFWaymer2010" class="citation news cs1">Waymer, Jim (1 June 2010). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20100601/NEWS01/6010319/Researchers-Fewer-sunspots-more-storms">"Researchers:Fewer sunspots, more storms"</a>. Melbourne, Florida: Florida Today. pp. 1A.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&amp;rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&amp;rft.genre=article&amp;rft.atitle=Researchers%3AFewer+sunspots%2C+more+storms&amp;rft.pages=1A&amp;rft.date=2010-06-01&amp;rft.aulast=Waymer&amp;rft.aufirst=Jim&amp;rft_id=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.floridatoday.com%2Farticle%2F20100601%2FNEWS01%2F6010319%2FResearchers-Fewer-sunspots-more-storms&amp;rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3ATalk%3AClimate+of+the+United+States" class="Z3988"></span><sup class="noprint Inline-Template"><span style="white-space: nowrap;">[<i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Link_rot" title="Wikipedia:Link rot"><span title=" Dead link tagged May 2011">dead link</span></a></i><span style="visibility:hidden; color:transparent; padding-left:2px">‍</span>]</span></sup>(endref)(imbedded comment)note that I am not accusing the predictors of not using, just trying to clarify what they still consider unproven theory and not yet usable. Hard to report this and sound unbiased in what is being done with info! (end imbedded comment)" </p><p>Note that the link to the url has rotted. Link to hard copy is still good. I have moved this to hurricane theory. The problem is that the study was only made with the US in mind, since the US gets hit more often than any other nation. Lots of typhoons in the Pacific, but lots of countries to strike and the researcher did not correlate data there. <a href="/wiki/User:Student7" title="User:Student7">Student7</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Student7" title="User talk:Student7">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Climate_of_the_United_States#c-Student7-2012-03-10T13:31:00.000Z-Sunspot_theory" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:31, 10 March 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Student7-2012-03-10T13:31:00.000Z-Sunspot_theory"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-10T13:31:00.000Z","author":"Student7","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Student7-2012-03-10T13:31:00.000Z-Sunspot_theory","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Student7-2012-03-10T13:31:00.000Z-Sunspot_theory"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Student7-2015-01-23T19:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-January_2014_changes-2015-01-23T19:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Student7-2015-01-23T19:38:00.000Z-January_2014_changes&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;January 2014 changes&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;January 2014 changes&quot;}--><h2 id="January_2014_changes" data-mw-thread-id="h-January_2014_changes-2015-01-23T19:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-January_2014_changes-2015-01-23T19:38:00.000Z"></span>January 2014 changes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-January_2014_changes-2015-01-23T19:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Climate_of_the_United_States&amp;action=edit&amp;section=5" title="Edit section: January 2014 changes"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Student7-2015-01-23T19:38:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-January_2014_changes-2015-01-23T19:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Student7-2015-01-23T19:38:00.000Z-January_2014_changes"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Student7-2015-01-23T19:38:00.000Z-January_2014_changes","timestamp":"2015-01-23T19:38:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Student7-2015-01-23T19:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-January_2014_changes-2015-01-23T19:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Student7-2015-01-23T19:38:00.000Z-January_2014_changes&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;January 2014 changes&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;January 2014 changes&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Student7-2015-01-23T19:38:00.000Z-January_2014_changes"></span>You might want to pay attention to unexplained changes. 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Large parts of the US sometimes has extremely changing temperatures during the winter. This becomes included in the average figures, but could possibly be mentioned better. This forecast [<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.woeurope.eu/weather/maps/forecastmaps?LANG=eu&amp;UP=0&amp;R=0&amp;MORE=1&amp;REGION=0018&amp;DAY=4&amp;MAPS=over&amp;CONT=namk&amp;LAND=nammw&amp;ZEIT=201902030600">[1]</a>] for Wednesday 30.January and some days ahead for <a href="/wiki/St_Louis" class="mw-redirect" title="St Louis">St Louis</a> (in degrees C) is -14, +1, +7, +14, +19, +20. From very cold to summer almost in just 5 days. I don't think temperatures changes that fast at any other continent, and I think it is very interesting and worth a bit more. <a href="/wiki/User:Boeing720" title="User:Boeing720">Boeing720</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Boeing720" title="User talk:Boeing720">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Climate_of_the_United_States#c-Boeing720-2019-01-30T19:20:00.000Z-Temperature_swings_significant" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 30 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Boeing720-2019-01-30T19:20:00.000Z-Temperature_swings_significant"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-30T19:20:00.000Z","author":"Boeing720","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Boeing720-2019-01-30T19:20:00.000Z-Temperature_swings_significant","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Boeing720-2019-01-30T19:20:00.000Z-Temperature_swings_significant"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-What_does_\&quot;average_annual_high_temperature\&quot;_mean???-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z-What_does_\&quot;average_annual_high_temperature\&quot;_mean???&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;What does \&quot;average annual high temperature\&quot; mean???&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;What does \&quot;average annual high temperature\&quot; mean???&quot;}--><h2 id="What_does_&quot;average_annual_high_temperature&quot;_mean???" data-mw-thread-id="h-What_does_&quot;average_annual_high_temperature&quot;_mean???-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z"><span id="What_does_.22average_annual_high_temperature.22_mean.3F.3F.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-What_does_&quot;average_annual_high_temperature&quot;_mean???-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z"></span>What does "average annual high temperature" mean???<span data-mw-comment-end="h-What_does_&quot;average_annual_high_temperature&quot;_mean???-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Climate_of_the_United_States&amp;action=edit&amp;section=9" title="Edit section: What does &quot;average annual high temperature&quot; mean???"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-What_does_\"average_annual_high_temperature\"_mean???-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z-What_does_\"average_annual_high_temperature\"_mean???"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Soap-2020-09-29T12:22:00.000Z-2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z","timestamp":"2020-09-29T12:22:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-What_does_\&quot;average_annual_high_temperature\&quot;_mean???-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z-What_does_\&quot;average_annual_high_temperature\&quot;_mean???&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;What does \&quot;average annual high temperature\&quot; mean???&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;What does \&quot;average annual high temperature\&quot; mean???&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z-What_does_&quot;average_annual_high_temperature&quot;_mean???"></span>One graphic in this article is described as follows: </p><p>"<i>This map shows the average annual high temperature of the United States.</i>" </p><p>It is not clear from this description <b>what</b> exactly is being averaged. </p><p>I suspect that it is the average maximum daily temperature for each day of the year. (With *this* average being taken over many recent years.) Finally, the average of these 365 averages is taken. </p><p>Is this correct? I hope that someone familiar with this graphic will clarify what it is intended to show. A graphic whose meaning is not clear is much less useful.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E" title="Special:Contributions/2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E">2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Climate_of_the_United_States#c-2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z-What_does_&quot;average_annual_high_temperature&quot;_mean???" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:22, 14 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z-What_does_&quot;average_annual_high_temperature&quot;_mean???"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z","author":"2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z-What_does_\"average_annual_high_temperature\"_mean???","replies":["c-Soap-2020-09-29T12:22:00.000Z-2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z-What_does_&quot;average_annual_high_temperature&quot;_mean???"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Soap-2020-09-29T12:22:00.000Z-2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z"></span>This is correct, yes. I understand it could be interpreted in other ways, but I think people coming here will tend to be those already familiar with the terminology. If not, they can easily look it up. It isn't necessary to explain every term every time it is used. <a href="/wiki/User:Soap" title="User:Soap">—</a><span style="background-color: #a6ffe0; padding: 3px; border-radius: 6px 6px 6px 6px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soap" title="User talk:Soap">Soap</a></b></span><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Soap" title="Special:Contributions/Soap">—</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Climate_of_the_United_States#c-Soap-2020-09-29T12:22:00.000Z-2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:22, 29 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Soap-2020-09-29T12:22:00.000Z-2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-09-29T12:22:00.000Z","author":"Soap","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Soap-2020-09-29T12:22:00.000Z-2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2014"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Soap-2020-09-29T12:22:00.000Z-2600:1700:E1C0:F340:30B1:27A7:29A4:8F6E-2019-02-14T18:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-TimK_MSI-2021-12-04T04:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-The_map_at_the_top_of_the_page-2021-12-04T04:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-TimK_MSI-2021-12-04T04:00:00.000Z-The_map_at_the_top_of_the_page&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;The map at the top of the page&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;The map at the top of the page&quot;}--><h2 id="The_map_at_the_top_of_the_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_map_at_the_top_of_the_page-2021-12-04T04:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_map_at_the_top_of_the_page-2021-12-04T04:00:00.000Z"></span>The map at the top of the page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_map_at_the_top_of_the_page-2021-12-04T04:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Climate_of_the_United_States&amp;action=edit&amp;section=10" title="Edit section: The map at the top of the page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TimK_MSI-2021-12-04T04:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-The_map_at_the_top_of_the_page-2021-12-04T04:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-TimK_MSI-2021-12-04T04:00:00.000Z-The_map_at_the_top_of_the_page"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-TimK_MSI-2021-12-04T04:00:00.000Z-The_map_at_the_top_of_the_page","timestamp":"2021-12-04T04:00:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-TimK_MSI-2021-12-04T04:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-The_map_at_the_top_of_the_page-2021-12-04T04:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-TimK_MSI-2021-12-04T04:00:00.000Z-The_map_at_the_top_of_the_page&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;The map at the top of the page&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;The map at the top of the page&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TimK_MSI-2021-12-04T04:00:00.000Z-The_map_at_the_top_of_the_page"></span>According to the map at the top of the page, <a href="/wiki/File:US_50_states_K%C3%B6ppen_with_territories.png" title="File:US 50 states Köppen with territories.png">File:US 50 states Köppen with territories.png</a>, the cities of Boston, Cleveland, Kansas City, Atlanta, and Orlando all share the same climate classification (Humid subtropical), and the Appalachian Mountains are designated Oceanic, same as the Olympic Peninsula. This does not seem right to me, and it significantly contradicts the text of the article. But I am not a climatologist, and the article is inadequately sourced. Could somebody confirm or refute my suspicions about the map? Thanks-- <a href="/wiki/User:TimK_MSI" title="User:TimK MSI">TimK MSI</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TimK_MSI" title="User talk:TimK MSI">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Climate_of_the_United_States#c-TimK_MSI-2021-12-04T04:00:00.000Z-The_map_at_the_top_of_the_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:00, 4 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TimK_MSI-2021-12-04T04:00:00.000Z-The_map_at_the_top_of_the_page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-12-04T04:00:00.000Z","author":"TimK MSI","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TimK_MSI-2021-12-04T04:00:00.000Z-The_map_at_the_top_of_the_page","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TimK_MSI-2021-12-04T04:00:00.000Z-The_map_at_the_top_of_the_page"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-72.72.202.229-20230910142700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Problem_with_accuracy_of_the_extreme_temperatures-20230910142700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-72.72.202.229-20230910142700-Problem_with_accuracy_of_the_extreme_temperatures&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Problem with accuracy of the extreme temperatures&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Problem with accuracy of the extreme temperatures&quot;}--><h2 id="Problem_with_accuracy_of_the_extreme_temperatures" data-mw-thread-id="h-Problem_with_accuracy_of_the_extreme_temperatures-20230910142700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Problem_with_accuracy_of_the_extreme_temperatures-20230910142700"></span>Problem with accuracy of the extreme temperatures<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Problem_with_accuracy_of_the_extreme_temperatures-20230910142700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Climate_of_the_United_States&amp;action=edit&amp;section=11" title="Edit section: Problem with accuracy of the extreme temperatures"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-72.72.202.229-20230910142700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Problem_with_accuracy_of_the_extreme_temperatures-20230910142700","replies":["c-72.72.202.229-20230910142700-Problem_with_accuracy_of_the_extreme_temperatures"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-72.72.202.229-20230910142700-Problem_with_accuracy_of_the_extreme_temperatures","timestamp":"20230910142700"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-72.72.202.229-20230910142700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Problem_with_accuracy_of_the_extreme_temperatures-20230910142700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-72.72.202.229-20230910142700-Problem_with_accuracy_of_the_extreme_temperatures&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Problem with accuracy of the extreme temperatures&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Problem with accuracy of the extreme temperatures&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-72.72.202.229-20230910142700-Problem_with_accuracy_of_the_extreme_temperatures"></span>I looked into the sources given and it seems that both the June and August record low have no evidence to support them. </p> <dl><dd>Also, the September record is wrong. According to the weatherbox on Big Piney's page, the record low is 5 for September, not -15, meaning the -15 reading never happened. Weatherboxes use official NOAA data and are always accurate. I have no idea where the other readings come from, either wishful thinking, fanciful storytelling, or backyard meteorologists who misread their thermometers. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/72.72.202.229" title="Special:Contributions/72.72.202.229">72.72.202.229</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:72.72.202.229&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:72.72.202.229 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Climate_of_the_United_States#c-72.72.202.229-20230910142700-Problem_with_accuracy_of_the_extreme_temperatures" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:27, 10 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-72.72.202.229-20230910142700-Problem_with_accuracy_of_the_extreme_temperatures"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-72.72.202.229-20230910142700-Problem_with_accuracy_of_the_extreme_temperatures"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230910142700","author":"72.72.202.229","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-72.72.202.229-20230910142700-Problem_with_accuracy_of_the_extreme_temperatures","replies":[]}}--></span></dd></dl> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐f69cdc8f6‐5z8dw Cached time: 20241125012750 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1, vary‐revision‐id, show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.022 seconds CPU time usage: 0.438 seconds Real time usage: 0.548 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 7970/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 48667/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 8210/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 15/100 Expensive parser function count: 11/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 25448/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.217/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 4838298/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 446.407 1 -total 70.42% 314.380 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 49.69% 221.820 1 Template:WikiProject_United_States 16.48% 73.559 1 Template:Cite_news 7.32% 32.668 2 Template:Flatlist 7.02% 31.345 1 Template:Dead_link 5.87% 26.196 1 Template:Fix 4.97% 22.179 1 Template:WikiProject_Weather 4.34% 19.368 2 Template:Category_handler 3.23% 14.402 2 Template:Quotation --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:14831824-0!canonical and timestamp 20241125012750 and revision id 1206722894. 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