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<span class="toctext">Thread</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#Welcome,_Dear_Filemover!"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Welcome, Dear Filemover!</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#Only_way_to_refresh_Wikidata"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Only way to refresh Wikidata</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#Khosrowgerd_Tower"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">Khosrowgerd Tower</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#Category:Categories_of_Indonesia_by_year"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">Category:Categories of Indonesia by year</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#Please_do_not_edit_war"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">Please do not edit war</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7"><a href="#overcategorization"><span class="tocnumber">7</span> <span class="toctext">overcategorization</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-8"><a href="#Moving_to_Pirsharafshah"><span class="tocnumber">8</span> <span class="toctext">Moving to Pirsharafshah</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="#Reverted_Categories_in_Taft_town"><span class="tocnumber">9</span> <span class="toctext">Reverted Categories in Taft town</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-10"><a href="#THANKS"><span class="tocnumber">10</span> <span class="toctext">THANKS</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-11"><a href="#BC"><span class="tocnumber">11</span> <span class="toctext">BC</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-12"><a href="#Persian_rugs_and_carpets"><span class="tocnumber">12</span> <span class="toctext">Persian rugs and carpets</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-13"><a href="#A_barnstar_for_you!"><span class="tocnumber">13</span> <span class="toctext">A barnstar for you!</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-14"><a href="#Request"><span class="tocnumber">14</span> <span class="toctext">Request</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-15"><a href="#Why_?"><span class="tocnumber">15</span> <span class="toctext">Why ?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-16"><a href="#You_might_be_interested"><span class="tocnumber">16</span> <span class="toctext">You might be interested</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-17"><a href="#December_2022"><span class="tocnumber">17</span> <span class="toctext">December 2022</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-18"><a href="#Category:Architecture_of_Italy_by_style_by_century"><span class="tocnumber">18</span> <span class="toctext">Category:Architecture of Italy by style by century</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-19"><a href="#Categories_of_Italy_by_style"><span class="tocnumber">19</span> <span class="toctext">Categories of Italy by style</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-20"><a href="#Notification_about_possible_deletion"><span class="tocnumber">20</span> <span class="toctext">Notification about possible deletion</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-21"><a href="#Contentious_moves"><span class="tocnumber">21</span> <span class="toctext">Contentious moves</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-22"><a href="#COM:AN/U"><span class="tocnumber">22</span> <span class="toctext">COM:AN/U</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-23"><a href="#Gift_for_u"><span class="tocnumber">23</span> <span class="toctext">Gift for u</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-24"><a href="#Keep!"><span class="tocnumber">24</span> <span class="toctext">Keep!</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-25"><a href="#until_universal_template_is_fixed_to_have_"Women_of_[country]_by_age""><span class="tocnumber">25</span> <span class="toctext">until universal template is fixed to have "Women of [country] by age"</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-26"><a href="#FR"><span class="tocnumber">26</span> <span class="toctext">FR</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-27"><a href="#Category:Concrete_architecture"><span class="tocnumber">27</span> <span class="toctext">Category:Concrete_architecture</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-28"><a href="#Periodes_and_centuries_in_Art_of_Iran"><span class="tocnumber">28</span> <span class="toctext">Periodes and centuries in Art of Iran</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-29"><a href="#The_reason_for_the_sabotage?"><span class="tocnumber">29</span> <span class="toctext">The reason for the sabotage?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-30"><a href="#Overuse_of_{{Most_populous_cities_of_the_world}}"><span class="tocnumber">30</span> <span class="toctext">Overuse of <span>{{Most populous cities of the world}}</span></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-31"><a href="#Indo-Persian_armour"><span class="tocnumber">31</span> <span class="toctext">Indo-Persian armour</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-32"><a href="#Art_in_Iran_is_"art_by_country_of_location""><span class="tocnumber">32</span> <span class="toctext">Art in Iran is "art by country of location"</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-33"><a href="#Category:Religious_buildings_by_religion_by_country"><span class="tocnumber">33</span> <span class="toctext">Category:Religious_buildings_by_religion_by_country</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-34"><a href="#Disruptive_editing"><span class="tocnumber">34</span> <span class="toctext">Disruptive editing</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-35"><a href="#com:speedy_delete"><span class="tocnumber">35</span> <span class="toctext">com:speedy delete</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-36"><a href="#Abu_Zayd_Kashani"><span class="tocnumber">36</span> <span class="toctext">Abu Zayd Kashani</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-37"><a href="#Category:WikiProject_Iran_by_city"><span class="tocnumber">37</span> <span class="toctext">Category:WikiProject_Iran_by_city</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-38"><a href="#Category:Categories_of_cities_of_Iran"><span class="tocnumber">38</span> <span class="toctext">Category:Categories_of_cities_of_Iran</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-39"><a href="#Be_Strong"><span class="tocnumber">39</span> <span class="toctext">Be Strong</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-40"><a href="#Proposed_solution"><span class="tocnumber">40</span> <span class="toctext">Proposed solution</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-41"><a href="#Goodbye_!"><span class="tocnumber">41</span> <span class="toctext">Goodbye !</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-42"><a href="#Deleted_categories"><span class="tocnumber">42</span> <span class="toctext">Deleted categories</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-43"><a href="#COM:AN/U_2"><span class="tocnumber">43</span> <span class="toctext">COM:AN/U</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-44"><a href="#Please_remain_calm_and_collegial"><span class="tocnumber">44</span> <span class="toctext">Please remain calm and collegial</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-45"><a href="#Category:India_in_the_1st_millennium"><span class="tocnumber">45</span> <span class="toctext">Category:India_in_the_1st_millennium</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-46"><a href="#A_special_thanks_for_Kazerun"><span class="tocnumber">46</span> <span class="toctext">A special thanks for Kazerun</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-47"><a href="#Category_names"><span class="tocnumber">47</span> <span class="toctext">Category names</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-48"><a href="#Kharg_or_Khargu"><span class="tocnumber">48</span> <span class="toctext">Kharg or Khargu</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-49"><a href="#دلیل_حذف_را_توضیح_دهید"><span class="tocnumber">49</span> <span class="toctext">دلیل حذف را توضیح دهید</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-50"><a href="#تعدد_بهشت_زهراها_در_ایران_و_جهان"><span class="tocnumber">50</span> <span class="toctext">تعدد بهشت زهراها در ایران و جهان</span></a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thread" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thread-2021-11-02T21:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thread-2021-11-02T21:43:00.000Z"></span>Thread<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thread-2021-11-02T21:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Thread"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div 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When moving files please respect the following advice: </p> <ul><li>Use the CommonsDelinker link in the <a href="/wiki/Template:Rename" title="Template:Rename"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;">{{Rename}}</span></a> template to order a bot to replace all ocurrences of the old title with the new one. Or, if there was no rename-request, please use the <i>Move & Replace</i>-tab.</li> <li>Please leave a redirect behind unless you have a valid reason not to do so. Other projects, including those using <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/InstantCommons" class="extiw" title="mediawikiwiki:InstantCommons">InstantCommons</a>, might be using the file even though they don't show up in the global usage. Deleting the redirects would break their file references. Please see <a href="/wiki/Commons:LEAVEREDIRECT" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:LEAVEREDIRECT">this section of the file rename guideline</a> for more information.</li> <li>Please know and follow the <a href="/wiki/Commons:RENAME" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:RENAME">file rename guidelines</a>.</li></ul> <p><a href="/wiki/User:4nn1l2" title="User:4nn1l2">4nn1l2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:4nn1l2" title="User talk:4nn1l2"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-4nn1l2-2021-11-07T10:40:00.000Z-Welcome,_Dear_Filemover!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:40, 7 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-4nn1l2-2021-11-07T10:40:00.000Z-Welcome,_Dear_Filemover!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-4nn1l2-2021-11-07T10:40:00.000Z-Welcome,_Dear_Filemover!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Only_way_to_refresh_Wikidata" data-mw-thread-id="h-Only_way_to_refresh_Wikidata-2021-11-08T16:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Only_way_to_refresh_Wikidata-2021-11-08T16:39:00.000Z"></span>Only way to refresh Wikidata<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Only_way_to_refresh_Wikidata-2021-11-08T16:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Only way to refresh Wikidata"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Chenaran_County&diff=prev&oldid=605891417"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-4nn1l2-2021-11-08T16:39:00.000Z-Only_way_to_refresh_Wikidata"></span>Not exactly</a>. You can simply activate "Page Purge" from <a href="/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets</a> and refresh Wikidata without making <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:dummy" class="extiw" title="en:WP:dummy">dummy edits</a>. "UTCLiveClock" from the same page has the same effect. You can click on the clock to purge the page. I use this clock myself. <a href="/wiki/User:4nn1l2" title="User:4nn1l2">4nn1l2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:4nn1l2" title="User talk:4nn1l2"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-4nn1l2-2021-11-08T16:39:00.000Z-Only_way_to_refresh_Wikidata" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:39, 8 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-4nn1l2-2021-11-08T16:39:00.000Z-Only_way_to_refresh_Wikidata"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-4nn1l2-2021-11-08T16:39:00.000Z-Only_way_to_refresh_Wikidata"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Khosrowgerd_Tower" data-mw-thread-id="h-Khosrowgerd_Tower-2021-11-08T16:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Khosrowgerd_Tower-2021-11-08T16:48:00.000Z"></span>Khosrowgerd Tower<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Khosrowgerd_Tower-2021-11-08T16:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Khosrowgerd Tower"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-4nn1l2-2021-11-08T16:48:00.000Z-Khosrowgerd_Tower"></span>Do you know the difference between <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://cdnext.iranarchpedia.ir/doc/1/10667_5983.1/%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%84_%D8%AE%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%88%DA%AF%D8%B1%D8%AF_%DB%B7%DB%B7.pdf">میل خسروگرد</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://cdnext.iranarchpedia.ir/doc/1/10667_5320.1/%D9%85%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%87_%D8%AE%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%88%DA%AF%D8%B1%D8%AF_%DB%B1%DB%B6%DB%B0.pdf">مناره خسروگرد</a>? They seem to refer to the same monument, but have been registered with different numbers on the same day (15 Dey 1310). They are the first and the second row in this list: <a href="https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%81%D9%87%D8%B1%D8%B3%D8%AA_%D8%A2%D8%AB%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D9%85%D9%84%DB%8C_%D8%B4%D9%87%D8%B1%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%A7%D9%86_%D8%B3%D8%A8%D8%B2%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B1" class="extiw" title="fa:فهرست آثار ملی شهرستان سبزوار">fa:فهرست آثار ملی شهرستان سبزوار</a>. When I was working on this list, I couldn't solve this problem. Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:4nn1l2" title="User:4nn1l2">4nn1l2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:4nn1l2" title="User talk:4nn1l2"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-4nn1l2-2021-11-08T16:48:00.000Z-Khosrowgerd_Tower" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:48, 8 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-4nn1l2-2021-11-08T16:48:00.000Z-Khosrowgerd_Tower"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-4nn1l2-2021-11-08T16:48:00.000Z-Khosrowgerd_Tower"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:Categories_of_Indonesia_by_year" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Categories_of_Indonesia_by_year-2021-11-12T02:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Categories_of_Indonesia_by_year-2021-11-12T02:40:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Category:Categories_of_Indonesia_by_year" title="Category:Categories of Indonesia by year">Category:Categories of Indonesia by year</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Categories_of_Indonesia_by_year-2021-11-12T02:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Category:Categories of Indonesia by year"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ricky81682-2021-11-12T02:40:00.000Z-Category:Categories_of_Indonesia_by_year"></span>I don't think categories like <a href="/wiki/Category:Sulawesi_by_year" title="Category:Sulawesi by year">Category:Sulawesi by year</a> are a category <i>of</i> Indonesia by year. If it was Islands of Indonesia by year, that makes sense but each island within Indonesia (or each province or city) isn't a category of Indonesia by year, it's a categorization of the islands/provinces/cities using Indonesia by year. Even then, moving every category <i>into</i> the categories of Indonesia by year so that nothing is within Indonesia by year isn't the way I've seen most countries organized. Don't you think categories like <a href="/wiki/Category:Cities_in_Indonesia_by_year" title="Category:Cities in Indonesia by year">Category:Cities in Indonesia by year</a> belong in both the categories of Indonesia by year and Indonesia by year? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ricky81682" title="User:Ricky81682">Ricky81682</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ricky81682" title="User talk:Ricky81682">talk</a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Ricky81682-2021-11-12T02:40:00.000Z-Category:Categories_of_Indonesia_by_year" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:40, 12 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ricky81682-2021-11-12T02:40:00.000Z-Category:Categories_of_Indonesia_by_year"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ricky81682-2021-11-12T02:40:00.000Z-Category:Categories_of_Indonesia_by_year"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-2021-11-12T07:12:00.000Z-Ricky81682-2021-11-12T02:40:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Ricky81682" title="User:Ricky81682">Ricky81682</a>: </span> take a look at examples like <a href="/wiki/Category:Germany_by_year" title="Category:Germany by year">Germany</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:Italy_by_year" title="Category:Italy by year">Italy</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:Iran_by_year" title="Category:Iran by year">Iran</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:Russia_by_year" title="Category:Russia by year">Russia</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:India_by_year" title="Category:India by year">India</a>... all countries with hundreds of years, plus some 50-120 subcategories in their particular <i>Categories of [country] by year</i>. Does it make sense to put some subcategory into a main category, which can be found by clicking four-five times at "next page"? Or put hundred of them at the beginning, despite main category is intended for years? IMHO not much. You're right when you say "most countries" aren't organized on that way, because most countries have <i>poor</i> history so all their years & subcategories look fine into one page (<200), but the same system for above mentioned five countries would be a messy nightmare. Considering Indonesia has hundreds of years and tens of subcategories, my suggestion is to keep current organization, means: <ul><li><i><a href="/wiki/Category:Indonesia_by_year" title="Category:Indonesia by year">Indonesia by year</a></i>: just years, and container cat for subcategories at the beginning. Nothing else.</li> <li><i><a href="/wiki/Category:Categories_of_Indonesia_by_year" title="Category:Categories of Indonesia by year">Categories of Indonesia by year</a></i>: a container cat with various subcategories, all which have "(...) Indonesia (...) by year (...)" in title.</li> <li><i><a href="/wiki/Category:Indonesia_by_year_by_topic" title="Category:Indonesia by year by topic">Indonesia by year by topic</a></i>: a "by-by" cat, at the beginning of container cat (space key).</li> <li><i><a href="/wiki/Category:Cities_in_Indonesia_by_year" title="Category:Cities in Indonesia by year">Cities in Indonesia by year</a></i>: this category, as well as some other more important categories like provinces or islands (comparing to postcards and etc), could also go at the beginning under "*" or "+" keys (see <a href="/wiki/Category:Categories_of_Germany_by_year" title="Category:Categories of Germany by year">Germany</a>). --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-2021-11-12T07:12:00.000Z-Ricky81682-2021-11-12T02:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:12, 12 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-2021-11-12T07:12:00.000Z-Ricky81682-2021-11-12T02:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-2021-11-12T07:12:00.000Z-Ricky81682-2021-11-12T02:40:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ricky81682-2021-11-12T08:40:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-12T07:12:00.000Z"></span>Okay, good point. Thanks for reorganizing things. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ricky81682" title="User:Ricky81682">Ricky81682</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ricky81682" title="User talk:Ricky81682">talk</a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Ricky81682-2021-11-12T08:40:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-12T07:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:40, 12 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ricky81682-2021-11-12T08:40:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-12T07:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ricky81682-2021-11-12T08:40:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-12T07:12:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-2021-11-12T08:44:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-12T07:12:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Ricky81682" title="User:Ricky81682">Ricky81682</a>: </span> you're welcome, thank you for improving Asian chronology. If you have any issue with templates (those which don't sort years properly and similar problems), feel free to contact me. I recently solved few Iraqi templates. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-2021-11-12T08:44:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-12T07:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:44, 12 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-2021-11-12T08:44:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-12T07:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-2021-11-12T08:44:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-12T07:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Please_do_not_edit_war" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_do_not_edit_war-2021-11-16T00:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_do_not_edit_war-2021-11-16T00:59:00.000Z"></span>Please do not edit war<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_do_not_edit_war-2021-11-16T00:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Please do not edit war"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div dir="ltr" class="welcomeBox layouttemplate"> <p><span style="font-size:small;line-height:1.4" class="plainlinks noprint"><a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Dont_editwar/de"><bdi class="language lang-de" lang="de"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A.Savin-2021-11-16T00:59:00.000Z-Please_do_not_edit_war"></span>Deutsch</bdi></a> <b>∙</b> <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Dont_editwar/en"><bdi class="language lang-en" lang="en">English</bdi></a> <b>∙</b> <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Dont_editwar/fr"><bdi class="language lang-fr" lang="fr">français</bdi></a> <b>∙</b> <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Dont_editwar/it"><bdi class="language lang-it" lang="it">italiano</bdi></a> <b>∙</b> <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Dont_editwar/hu"><bdi class="language lang-hu" lang="hu">magyar</bdi></a> <b>∙</b> <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Dont_editwar/pt"><bdi class="language lang-pt" lang="pt">português</bdi></a> <b>∙</b> <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Dont_editwar/scn"><bdi class="language lang-scn" lang="scn">sicilianu</bdi></a> <b>∙</b> <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Dont_editwar/ru"><bdi class="language lang-ru" lang="ru">русский</bdi></a> <b>∙</b> <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Dont_editwar/ja"><bdi class="language lang-ja" lang="ja">日本語</bdi></a> <b>∙</b> <small class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Dont_editwar/lang&action=edit">+/−</a></small></span> </p> <hr/> <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Dialog-warning.svg/30px-Dialog-warning.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Dialog-warning.svg/45px-Dialog-warning.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Dialog-warning.svg/60px-Dialog-warning.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="description en" style="display:inline;">You currently appear to be participating in an <b><a href="/wiki/Commons:Edit_Wars" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:Edit Wars">edit war</a></b>. Users are expected to collaborate with others, and once it is known that there is a disagreement should discuss the issues on the relevant <a href="/wiki/Commons:Talk_page_guidelines" title="Commons:Talk page guidelines">talk page</a> rather than repeatedly undoing other users’ contributions. If necessary you can ask for more input at <a href="/wiki/Commons:Dispute_resolution" title="Commons:Dispute resolution">Commons:Dispute resolution</a>. In some cases it may be appropriate to ask for temporary <a href="/wiki/Commons:AN/P" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:AN/P">page protection</a>. If you continue to edit war, <b>you may be <a href="/wiki/Commons:Blocking_policy" title="Commons:Blocking policy">blocked</a> from editing</b> – even if you are right about the content issue.</div> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-A.Savin-2021-11-16T00:59:00.000Z-Please_do_not_edit_war" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:59, 16 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A.Savin-2021-11-16T00:59:00.000Z-Please_do_not_edit_war"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A.Savin-2021-11-16T00:59:00.000Z-Please_do_not_edit_war"></span> </p><p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:02:00.000Z-Please_do_not_edit_war"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:A.Savin" title="User:A.Savin">A.Savin</a>: </span> sure, finally that some admin noticed the issue. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:02:00.000Z-Please_do_not_edit_war" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:02, 16 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:02:00.000Z-Please_do_not_edit_war"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:02:00.000Z-Please_do_not_edit_war"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:03:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:02:00.000Z"></span>So you do understand that your actions are wrong and lack consensus? <a href="/wiki/User:GPinkerton" title="User:GPinkerton">GPinkerton</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GPinkerton" title="User talk:GPinkerton"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:03:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:03, 16 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:03:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:03:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:02:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:05:00.000Z-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:03:00.000Z"></span>Don't switch the story here, I'm not one who removed tag while consensus isn't reached. Not to mention persistent insults and accusations. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:05:00.000Z-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:05, 16 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:05:00.000Z-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:05:00.000Z-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:03:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:11:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:05:00.000Z"></span>Get the story straight: you baselessly removed appropriate categories, claimed you had some kind of justification for doing so, and then relentlessly edit warred to get your POV vandalism inserted while at the same time wrongly accusing all and sundry of vandalism. Let's not pretend your actions constituted anything but a net-negative for the project and quite forbidden by policy. <a href="/wiki/User:GPinkerton" title="User:GPinkerton">GPinkerton</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GPinkerton" title="User talk:GPinkerton"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:11:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:11, 16 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:11:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:11:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:15:00.000Z-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:11:00.000Z"></span>Categories weren't appropriate as I explained on <a href="/wiki/File_talk:1946_Kurdistan_et_groupements_Kurdes_isol%C3%A9s.jpg" title="File talk:1946 Kurdistan et groupements Kurdes isolés.jpg">talk page</a>, therefore I put the proper tag, and you desperately wanted to remove it, as well as to delete whole discussion. I wonder why. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:15:00.000Z-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:15, 16 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:15:00.000Z-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:15:00.000Z-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:11:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:42:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:15:00.000Z"></span>I'm sorry? Desperation? What was your furious edit war all about if not desperation to suit your unsustainable POV? Really, trying to argue a map labelled "Kurdistan" does not depict Kurdistan is pure tendentiousness, no-one is going to agree to that, and your explanations explaining your POV to your own satisfaction are no justification for your vandalism and dedicated edit warring. I remind you that you were claiming the map only belonged in categories relating to Egypt, when anyone with eyes can see the map shows areas well beyond Egypt. If you still think that's a reasonable position for you to take, your need to have a big rethink about your priorities. <a href="/wiki/User:GPinkerton" title="User:GPinkerton">GPinkerton</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GPinkerton" title="User talk:GPinkerton"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:42:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:42, 16 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:42:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:42:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T01:15:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T02:05:00.000Z-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:42:00.000Z"></span>I'm not one who started reverting without discussion, it's pretty clear from history. I'm the one who put tags and opened objections on talk page, and you tried to remove both. Facts are clear. Maps does not depict Kurdistan nor Kurdish inhabited regions, as I already explained, it represents only a nationalist fantasy of few mythomaniacs based in Egypt. Therefore <i>1946 (works) in Egypt</i> category, which you removed. That's vandalism per se. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T02:05:00.000Z-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:05, 16 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T02:05:00.000Z-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T02:05:00.000Z-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T01:42:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span style="background:transparent;color:red;font-weight:400;" title=""><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T02:28:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T02:05:00.000Z"></span>I'm not one who started reverting without discussion, it's pretty clear from history.</span> Well this is a straight lie. You <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:%DA%95%DB%86%DA%98%DA%BE%DB%95%DA%B5%D8%A7%D8%AA%DB%8C_%DA%A9%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%AF%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%A7%D9%862.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=607407340">made this edit</a>, which is textbook vandalism: replacing an appropriate category with a unhelpful one that suits (apparently) your POV but which is useless to Commons and impedes navigation, as well as being flatly incorrect (are you claiming the areas in Iran inhabited by Kurds are somehow not visible on this map? This is clearly false). I reverted your vandalism. Then <i><b>without any discussion</b></i> you <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:%DA%95%DB%86%DA%98%DA%BE%DB%95%DA%B5%D8%A7%D8%AA%DB%8C_%DA%A9%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%AF%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%A7%D9%862.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=607412122">edit war it back in with this edit</a> which did not even attempt to justify your repletion of your vandalism. So your claim is false. <span style="background:transparent;color:red;font-weight:400;" title="">I'm the one who put tags and opened objections on talk page, and you tried to remove both.</span> You added unsuitable tags while seeking to push your POV by edit warring over categories and vandalizing the existing categories. Lets not try to beautify your actions with falsehoods, shall we? <span style="background:transparent;color:red;font-weight:400;" title="">Facts are clear. Maps does not depict Kurdistan nor Kurdish inhabited regions, as I already explained, it represents only a nationalist fantasy of few mythomaniacs based in Egypt.</span> You have have been informed multiple times that this contorted and illogical expression of POV does not justify your editwarring. The notion that a rational human is going to accept your claims that a map of Kurdistan (labelled as such and described as such in multiple reliable sources) somehow is in fact a map of somewhere else is just too absurd to contemplate! It is also interesting to note that you are making false claims about history itself. Where did you read who produced this anonymous map, and how did you get the idea that anyone is going to accept your speculative (mis-)characterization of them a "mythomaniacs"? Where, furthermore, did you get the idea that any of this is relevant? A map showing Kurdistan, whatever faults you happen to perceive in it, belongs in appropriate categories, and should not be miscategorized in the way that you have repeatedly sought to do. Now having read this you should fully understand the facts of the matter, and you should the more clearly see how what you have done is wrong. Because you now understand that your position is untenable, I expect to hear no further objections and tendentious claims from you regarding this matter. <a href="/wiki/User:GPinkerton" title="User:GPinkerton">GPinkerton</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GPinkerton" title="User talk:GPinkerton"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T02:28:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T02:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:28, 16 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T02:28:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T02:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T02:28:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T02:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T02:56:00.000Z-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T02:28:00.000Z"></span>Anyone with eyes can compare that <a href="/wiki/File:%DA%95%DB%86%DA%98%DA%BE%DB%95%DA%B5%D8%A7%D8%AA%DB%8C_%DA%A9%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%AF%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%A7%D9%862.jpg" title="File:ڕۆژھەڵاتی کوردستان2.jpg"><b>fantasy map</b></a> with realistic <a href="/wiki/File:Kurdish-inhabited_area_by_CIA_(1992)_box_inset_removed.jpg" title="File:Kurdish-inhabited area by CIA (1992) box inset removed.jpg">CIA map</a> or <a href="/wiki/File:Iran-Ethnicity-2004.PNG" title="File:Iran-Ethnicity-2004.PNG">Library of Congress' map</a> and notice that it's borders of marked areas are few hundred kilometers incorrect. So who do you try to manipulate here? --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T02:56:00.000Z-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T02:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:56, 16 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T02:56:00.000Z-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T02:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-2021-11-16T02:56:00.000Z-GPinkerton-2021-11-16T02:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="overcategorization" data-mw-thread-id="h-overcategorization-2021-11-26T18:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-overcategorization-2021-11-26T18:44:00.000Z"></span>overcategorization<span data-mw-comment-end="h-overcategorization-2021-11-26T18:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: overcategorization"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Faqscl-2021-11-26T18:44:00.000Z-overcategorization"></span>Hi Orijentlog, in "File:Ariana museum - islamic pottery - Assiette au rossignol - Nâïn (Iran) - 1901 - Inventaire AR 2011-277.JPG" I just deleted your categorization because it's an overcategorization. You just reverted it. Please explain why. Faithfully yours. --<a href="/wiki/User:Faqscl" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Faqscl">Faqscl</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Faqscl" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Faqscl"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Faqscl-2021-11-26T18:44:00.000Z-overcategorization" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:44, 26 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Faqscl-2021-11-26T18:44:00.000Z-overcategorization"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Faqscl-2021-11-26T18:44:00.000Z-overcategorization"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Moving_to_Pirsharafshah" data-mw-thread-id="h-Moving_to_Pirsharafshah-2021-12-22T10:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Moving_to_Pirsharafshah-2021-12-22T10:17:00.000Z"></span>Moving to Pirsharafshah<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Moving_to_Pirsharafshah-2021-12-22T10:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Moving to Pirsharafshah"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-V.H-2021-12-22T10:17:00.000Z-Moving_to_Pirsharafshah"></span>Hello sir. I uploaded a file about a poem from an Iranian poet (called Pirshrafshah) in Gilaki language. But I forgot to write a name for it and It's named: <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Screenshot_%DB%B2%DB%B0%DB%B2%DB%B1%DB%B1%DB%B2%DB%B2%DB%B2-%DB%B1%DB%B3%DB%B2%DB%B6%DB%B4%DB%B1_Video_Player.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Screenshot ۲۰۲۱۱۲۲۲-۱۳۲۶۴۱ Video Player.jpg (page does not exist)">Screenshot ۲۰۲۱۱۲۲۲-۱۳۲۶۴۱ Video Player.jpg</a> now. Please take it to <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Pirshrafshah.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Pirshrafshah.jpg (page does not exist)">Pirshrafshah.jpg</a>. Sincerely. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:V.H&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:V.H (page does not exist)">V.H</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:V.H" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:V.H"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-V.H-2021-12-22T10:17:00.000Z-Moving_to_Pirsharafshah" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:17, 22 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-V.H-2021-12-22T10:17:00.000Z-Moving_to_Pirsharafshah"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-V.H-2021-12-22T10:17:00.000Z-Moving_to_Pirsharafshah"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-2021-12-22T19:20:00.000Z-V.H-2021-12-22T10:17:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:V.H&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:V.H (page does not exist)">V.H</a>: </span> <span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> <b><bdi>Done</bdi></b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-2021-12-22T19:20:00.000Z-V.H-2021-12-22T10:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 22 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-2021-12-22T19:20:00.000Z-V.H-2021-12-22T10:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-2021-12-22T19:20:00.000Z-V.H-2021-12-22T10:17:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-V.H-2021-12-22T20:01:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-12-22T19:20:00.000Z"></span>Thank you so much. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:V.H&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:V.H (page does not exist)">V.H</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:V.H" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:V.H"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-V.H-2021-12-22T20:01:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-12-22T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 22 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-V.H-2021-12-22T20:01:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-12-22T19:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-V.H-2021-12-22T20:01:00.000Z-Orijentolog-2021-12-22T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reverted_Categories_in_Taft_town" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reverted_Categories_in_Taft_town"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reverted_Categories_in_Taft_town"></span>Reverted Categories in Taft town<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reverted_Categories_in_Taft_town"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Reverted Categories in Taft town"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Hi I'm changing the Category of some photos in Taft County to improve them better fit the title and photo, and it looks like you're reverting them. I will be grateful if I know the reason </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="THANKS" data-mw-thread-id="h-THANKS-2022-05-09T19:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-THANKS-2022-05-09T19:58:00.000Z"></span>THANKS<span data-mw-comment-end="h-THANKS-2022-05-09T19:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: THANKS"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Solman9-2022-05-09T19:58:00.000Z-THANKS"></span>THANKS OK MY FRIND <a href="/wiki/User:Solman9" title="User:Solman9">Solman9</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Solman9" title="User talk:Solman9"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 19:58, 9 May 2022 (UTC) <small class="autosigned" lang="en" dir="ltr">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Commons:Signatures" title="Commons:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <bdi><a href="/wiki/User:Solman9" title="User:Solman9">Solman9</a></bdi> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Solman9" title="User talk:Solman9">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Solman9" title="Special:Contributions/Solman9">contribs</a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Solman9-2022-05-09T19:58:00.000Z-THANKS" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:48, 9 May 2022 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Solman9-2022-05-09T19:58:00.000Z-THANKS"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Solman9-2022-05-09T19:58:00.000Z-THANKS"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="BC" data-mw-thread-id="h-BC-2022-05-30T06:33:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-BC-2022-05-30T06:33:00.000Z"></span>BC<span data-mw-comment-end="h-BC-2022-05-30T06:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: BC"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Birdie-2022-05-30T06:33:00.000Z-BC"></span>I don't know in which world you're living but in mine, there are monuments built b4 the birth of Christ. Even in Italy. When one is listed, it's very annoying to have to change every century afterwards cos someone thought it wouldn't be necessary. Just think of the future b4 criticizing. --<a href="/wiki/User:Birdie" title="User:Birdie">Birdie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Birdie" title="User talk:Birdie"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Birdie-2022-05-30T06:33:00.000Z-BC" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:33, 30 May 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Birdie-2022-05-30T06:33:00.000Z-BC"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Birdie-2022-05-30T06:33:00.000Z-BC"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Persian_rugs_and_carpets" data-mw-thread-id="h-Persian_rugs_and_carpets-2022-06-17T12:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Persian_rugs_and_carpets-2022-06-17T12:25:00.000Z"></span>Persian rugs and carpets<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Persian_rugs_and_carpets-2022-06-17T12:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Persian rugs and carpets"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nous-2022-06-17T12:25:00.000Z-Persian_rugs_and_carpets"></span>I want to make something more - to make "Persian rugs and carpets" empty category, and only a redirection to "Rugs and carpets of Iran". Because now we have duplicate categories. Obviously, it will take some time, and it will be some mess for a time (I can't do this in one day). But it is already a mess. A lot of mess in fact. Yea, so I want an order, and for this I can't have two categories about the same topic.--<a href="/wiki/User:Nous" title="User:Nous">Nous</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nous" title="User talk:Nous"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Nous-2022-06-17T12:25:00.000Z-Persian_rugs_and_carpets" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:25, 17 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nous-2022-06-17T12:25:00.000Z-Persian_rugs_and_carpets"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nous-2022-06-17T12:25:00.000Z-Persian_rugs_and_carpets"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nous-2022-06-17T12:35:00.000Z-Persian_rugs_and_carpets"></span>I think that "Rugs and carpets of Iran" has much more logical order and much more sense than "Persian rugs and carpets". First of all, it is a logical part of category "Rugs and carpets by country". Second, for example, it has logically arranged subcategories, like "Rugs and carpets of Iran by city" or "Rugs and carpets of Iran by dynastic period". Nothing so fancy in "Persian rugs and carpets", which usually double down on "Rugs and carpets of Iran" in ugly manner and is a total mess. If you build "Rugs and carpets of Iran" (I don't check it), all thanks to you. I want it to be sole category in this topic. Can I hope that you agree in this matter?--<a href="/wiki/User:Nous" title="User:Nous">Nous</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nous" title="User talk:Nous"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Nous-2022-06-17T12:35:00.000Z-Persian_rugs_and_carpets" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:35, 17 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nous-2022-06-17T12:35:00.000Z-Persian_rugs_and_carpets"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nous-2022-06-17T12:35:00.000Z-Persian_rugs_and_carpets"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nous-2022-06-17T17:52:00.000Z-Persian_rugs_and_carpets"></span>So maybe (just maybe) Persian carpets, as something discerned on stylistic grounds, are more wider category than Carpets from Iran. If that is so, than "Rugs and carpets of Iran" should be subcategory of "Persian rugs and carpets", not other way around. For this moment I will concentrate on individual carpets, and don't try to do antything with order between categories themselves. However, I think that we must do something, beacause it is a mess, as we both agree. And to other topic - yes, for me editions of <a href="/wiki/User:Sefer_azeri" title="User:Sefer azeri">User:Sefer azeri</a> are also very problematic. P.S. This "Hunting Carpet" form Museo Poldi Pezzoli is really amazing:) Have a nice day (or evening:)--<a href="/wiki/User:Nous" title="User:Nous">Nous</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nous" title="User talk:Nous"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Nous-2022-06-17T17:52:00.000Z-Persian_rugs_and_carpets" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:52, 17 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nous-2022-06-17T17:52:00.000Z-Persian_rugs_and_carpets"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nous-2022-06-17T17:52:00.000Z-Persian_rugs_and_carpets"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nous-2022-06-17T21:03:00.000Z-Persian_rugs_and_carpets"></span>Youd didn't mention my favorite - polish (polonaise) carpets, or rather Persian Safavid carpets:) Thank you for all explanations and greetings from Poland:)--<a href="/wiki/User:Nous" title="User:Nous">Nous</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nous" title="User talk:Nous"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Nous-2022-06-17T21:03:00.000Z-Persian_rugs_and_carpets" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:03, 17 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nous-2022-06-17T21:03:00.000Z-Persian_rugs_and_carpets"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nous-2022-06-17T21:03:00.000Z-Persian_rugs_and_carpets"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20220726000000"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20220726000000"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20220726000000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: A barnstar for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LouisAragon-20220726000000-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar_Hires.gif" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar_Hires.gif/100px-Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar_Hires.gif" decoding="async" width="100" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar_Hires.gif/150px-Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar_Hires.gif 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar_Hires.gif/200px-Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar_Hires.gif 2x" data-file-width="240" data-file-height="240"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Tireless Contributor Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">For your tireless efforts in improving Iran-related media and categories. Your hard work does not go unnoticed. Keep it up! - <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:LouisAragon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:LouisAragon (page does not exist)">LouisAragon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LouisAragon" title="User talk:LouisAragon"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-LouisAragon-20220726000000-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:00, 26 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LouisAragon-20220726000000-A_barnstar_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LouisAragon-20220726000000-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request-20221002081800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request-20221002081800"></span>Request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request-20221002081800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-103.141.159.224-20221002081800-Request"></span>Hi can you please create the border maps of Pakistan with its neighbours Afghanistan, China and India. like you created border maps of Iran. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/103.141.159.224" title="Special:Contributions/103.141.159.224">103.141.159.224</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-103.141.159.224-20221002081800-Request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:18, 2 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-103.141.159.224-20221002081800-Request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-103.141.159.224-20221002081800-Request"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20221002085600-103.141.159.224-20221002081800"></span>That's not easy my friend, it took me days to make it and it was more than ten years ago! --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-20221002085600-103.141.159.224-20221002081800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:56, 2 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20221002085600-103.141.159.224-20221002081800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20221002085600-103.141.159.224-20221002081800"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-103.141.159.224-20221004005800-Request"></span>I know this is one of the most difficult work and it will take time but you are an experienced user you can do it </p><p>Dear <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a>: </span> I know this is one of the most difficult work and it will take time but you are an experienced user im impressed with your work i believe you can do it, first please make map of Pakistan-Afghanistan border and then try for Pakistan's border with india and china. </p><p>I'm requesting you because there is no border map of Pakistan available with Afghanistan, India & China on whole wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/103.141.159.224" title="Special:Contributions/103.141.159.224">103.141.159.224</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-103.141.159.224-20221004005800-Request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:58, 4 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-103.141.159.224-20221004005800-Request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-103.141.159.224-20221004005800-Request"></span> </p><p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-103.141.159.224-20221020190700-Request"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a>: </span> bro please at least make one border map, of Pakistan Afganistan border, </p><p>At least you should start the map, i believe other experienced editors will improve it. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/103.141.159.224" title="Special:Contributions/103.141.159.224">103.141.159.224</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-103.141.159.224-20221020190700-Request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:07, 20 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-103.141.159.224-20221020190700-Request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-103.141.159.224-20221020190700-Request"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20221030162300-103.141.159.224-20221020190700"></span>I'm very busy and you'll have to wait at least few more weeks. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-20221030162300-103.141.159.224-20221020190700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:23, 30 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20221030162300-103.141.159.224-20221020190700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20221030162300-103.141.159.224-20221020190700"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-103.141.159.226-20221122062500-Request"></span>Okay bro i will wait. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/103.141.159.226" title="Special:Contributions/103.141.159.226">103.141.159.226</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-103.141.159.226-20221122062500-Request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:25, 22 November 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-103.141.159.226-20221122062500-Request"><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-M.Bitton-20221223201900-December_2022"></span>Why do you keep adding "Fortifications in Morocco" to the <a href="/wiki/Category:Moroccan_Wall" title="Category:Moroccan Wall">Category:Moroccan Wall</a> category? It's clearly in Western Sahara and not Morocco. <a href="/wiki/User:M.Bitton" class="mw-redirect" title="User:M.Bitton">M.Bitton</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:M.Bitton" title="User talk:M.Bitton"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-M.Bitton-20221223201900-December_2022" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:19, 23 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-M.Bitton-20221223201900-December_2022"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-M.Bitton-20221223201900-December_2022"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:Architecture_of_Italy_by_style_by_century" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Architecture_of_Italy_by_style_by_century-20230106233800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Architecture_of_Italy_by_style_by_century-20230106233800"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Architecture_of_Italy_by_style_by_century&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Architecture of Italy by style by century (page does not exist)">Category:Architecture of Italy by style by century</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Architecture_of_Italy_by_style_by_century-20230106233800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Category:Architecture of Italy by style by century"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DenghiùComm-20230106233800-Category:Architecture_of_Italy_by_style_by_century"></span>Hi Orientolog. Please, categories they have a double "by" must have both metacat. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User:DenghiùComm">DenghiùComm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User talk:DenghiùComm"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-DenghiùComm-20230106233800-Category:Architecture_of_Italy_by_style_by_century" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:38, 6 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DenghiùComm-20230106233800-Category:Architecture_of_Italy_by_style_by_century"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DenghiùComm-20230106233800-Category:Architecture_of_Italy_by_style_by_century"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20230106234200-DenghiùComm-20230106233800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User:DenghiùComm">DenghiùComm</a>: </span> nope, only the last one. Both should be only in the case if title includes something like "style <b>and</b> period", "style <b>or</b> period." I was previously inserting multiply criterion, which was a mistake, understood from conversation with Auntof6. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-20230106234200-DenghiùComm-20230106233800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:42, 6 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20230106234200-DenghiùComm-20230106233800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20230106234200-DenghiùComm-20230106233800"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DenghiùComm-20230106234400-Orijentolog-20230106234200"></span>Please. These are double categories ! These arte not simple categories ! --<a href="/wiki/User:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User:DenghiùComm">DenghiùComm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User talk:DenghiùComm"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-DenghiùComm-20230106234400-Orijentolog-20230106234200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:44, 6 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DenghiùComm-20230106234400-Orijentolog-20230106234200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DenghiùComm-20230106234400-Orijentolog-20230106234200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20230106234600-DenghiùComm-20230106234400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User:DenghiùComm">DenghiùComm</a>: </span> That's precisely what I was thinking at first, so I repeated mistake tens (if not hundreds) of times! If you don't believe see my <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Auntof6/Archives/2022#Three_new_cats" title="User talk:Auntof6/Archives/2022">conversation with Auntof6</a>, you can ask her. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-20230106234600-DenghiùComm-20230106234400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:46, 6 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20230106234600-DenghiùComm-20230106234400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20230106234600-DenghiùComm-20230106234400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20230106235600-DenghiùComm-20230106234400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User:DenghiùComm">DenghiùComm</a>: </span> to simply: if something ends with "...by country" it should have listed only countries, if something ends with "...by century" it should have listed only centuries, and so on. That means that everything before is irrelevant for flat lists. Regarding my mistakes, you can see for example <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Bridges_by_function_by_type_by_material_by_country" title="Category:Bridges by function by type by material by country">Bridges by function by type by material by country</a></i> where I was adding all four criteria. That's wrong. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-20230106235600-DenghiùComm-20230106234400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:56, 6 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20230106235600-DenghiùComm-20230106234400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20230106235600-DenghiùComm-20230106234400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DenghiùComm-20230108073300-Category:Architecture_of_Italy_by_style_by_century"></span>I open a discussion in the Village Pump. I will submit to the decision that will be made in the discussion. Best regards, --<a href="/wiki/User:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User:DenghiùComm">DenghiùComm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User talk:DenghiùComm"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-DenghiùComm-20230108073300-Category:Architecture_of_Italy_by_style_by_century" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:33, 8 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DenghiùComm-20230108073300-Category:Architecture_of_Italy_by_style_by_century"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DenghiùComm-20230108073300-Category:Architecture_of_Italy_by_style_by_century"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20230109180800-DenghiùComm-20230108073300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User:DenghiùComm">DenghiùComm</a>: </span> thanks, I answered there. Best regards and all the best for New Year! :) --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-20230109180800-DenghiùComm-20230108073300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:08, 9 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20230109180800-DenghiùComm-20230108073300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20230109180800-DenghiùComm-20230108073300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DenghiùComm-20230109193200-Orijentolog-20230109180800"></span>You are wellcome. Happy new year to you. <a href="/wiki/User:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User:DenghiùComm">DenghiùComm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User talk:DenghiùComm"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-DenghiùComm-20230109193200-Orijentolog-20230109180800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:32, 9 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DenghiùComm-20230109193200-Orijentolog-20230109180800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DenghiùComm-20230109193200-Orijentolog-20230109180800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Categories_of_Italy_by_style" data-mw-thread-id="h-Categories_of_Italy_by_style-20230111225000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Categories_of_Italy_by_style-20230111225000"></span>Categories of Italy by style<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Categories_of_Italy_by_style-20230111225000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Categories of Italy by style"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DenghiùComm-20230111225000-Categories_of_Italy_by_style"></span>Hi Orijentolog. Please don't create categories for Italy BY STYLE. All art and architecture categories of Italy are organized BY PERIOD not by style. We cannot create again the terrible mess of Style an Period that we solved many years ago choising By Period. For Italy many users choised Period not Style, and all categories by style was changed in By period. Now it will be necessary to correct all this new categories with this bad name. Best regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User:DenghiùComm">DenghiùComm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User talk:DenghiùComm"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-DenghiùComm-20230111225000-Categories_of_Italy_by_style" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:50, 11 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DenghiùComm-20230111225000-Categories_of_Italy_by_style"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DenghiùComm-20230111225000-Categories_of_Italy_by_style"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20230111225300-DenghiùComm-20230111225000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User:DenghiùComm">DenghiùComm</a>: </span> which one?? I remembered that I was opening many architectural elements in Italy during past few weeks, but all have <b>by period</b> (check yourself under "*": <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Architectural_elements_in_Italy_by_period" title="Category:Architectural elements in Italy by period">Architectural elements in Italy by period</a></i>). --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-20230111225300-DenghiùComm-20230111225000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:53, 11 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20230111225300-DenghiùComm-20230111225000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20230111225300-DenghiùComm-20230111225000"></span></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20230111225800-DenghiùComm-20230111225000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User:DenghiùComm">DenghiùComm</a>: </span> for example see histories of <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Arches_in_Italy_by_period&action=history">arhces</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Fountains_in_Italy_by_period&action=history">fountains</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Stairs_in_Italy_by_period&action=history">stairs</a>, and so on. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-20230111225800-DenghiùComm-20230111225000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20230111225800-DenghiùComm-20230111225000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20230111225800-DenghiùComm-20230111225000"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DenghiùComm-20230111230200-Orijentolog-20230111225800"></span>You crate the most part of these categories in <a href="/wiki/Category:Categories_of_Italy_by_style" title="Category:Categories of Italy by style">Category:Categories of Italy by style</a>, and the over category too. --<a href="/wiki/User:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User:DenghiùComm">DenghiùComm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User talk:DenghiùComm"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-DenghiùComm-20230111230200-Orijentolog-20230111225800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:02, 11 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DenghiùComm-20230111230200-Orijentolog-20230111225800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DenghiùComm-20230111230200-Orijentolog-20230111225800"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20230111231700-DenghiùComm-20230111230200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User:DenghiùComm">DenghiùComm</a>: </span> wroooong! :) Most of these categories have already existed, like <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Chapels_in_Italy_by_style" title="Category:Chapels in Italy by style">Chapels in Italy by style</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Churches_in_Italy_by_style" title="Category:Churches in Italy by style">Churches in Italy by style</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Architects_from_Italy_by_style" title="Category:Architects from Italy by style">Architects from Italy by style</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Bridges_in_Italy_by_style" title="Category:Bridges in Italy by style">Bridges in Italy by style</a></i>, <i><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Towers_in_Italy_by_architectural_style&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Towers in Italy by architectural style (page does not exist)"><em>Towers in Italy by architectural style</em></a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Architecture_of_Italy_by_style" title="Category:Architecture of Italy by style">Architecture of Italy by style</a></i>... check histories! Others opened it, not me. Exceptions are "substyles" and more complicated categories (with "by-by") which are better with <i>style</i> because of template interconnection with other countries. We're speaking about very few categories, perhaps six of them. And there won't be more. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-20230111231700-DenghiùComm-20230111230200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:17, 11 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20230111231700-DenghiùComm-20230111230200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20230111231700-DenghiùComm-20230111230200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DenghiùComm-20230111233500-Categories_of_Italy_by_style"></span>I'll explain you the situation. Italy has a long history and a great density of civilisations, architectures and art. In art we have styles which can also be periods (e.g. Greek, Renaissance, Baroque, etc.) but we also have periods which are not styles (e.g. Prehistory, Middle Ages). Since in Italy art ranges from Prehistory to Contemporary art, many years ago it was decided to use "by period" and not "by style" for all architectural and artistic categories in Italy. So all the category names "by style" have changed. In Commons there are countries that have not done this work and have a terrible confusion in their categories, where half of the categories are categorized "by style" and the missing ones are found "by period". Or subjects are given both "by style" and "by period" categories creating unnecessary duplication and redundancy. It is not important that all countries are uniform among themselves, the important thing is that there is coherence within the same nation. If the USA is organized "by style" this may be good for the USA, certainly not for Italy. They are two states that have a completely different historical and artistic situation. <a href="/wiki/User:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User:DenghiùComm">DenghiùComm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User talk:DenghiùComm"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-DenghiùComm-20230111233500-Categories_of_Italy_by_style" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:35, 11 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DenghiùComm-20230111233500-Categories_of_Italy_by_style"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DenghiùComm-20230111233500-Categories_of_Italy_by_style"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20230111235000-DenghiùComm-20230111233500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User:DenghiùComm">DenghiùComm</a>: </span> amico, no need that you spent your precious time for explanation, I know all very well. :) For the very same reason I personally picked up <a href="/wiki/Category:Categories_of_Iran_by_dynastic_period" title="Category:Categories of Iran by dynastic period"><i><b>by dynastic period</b></i> for 77 different Iran-related architectural and artistic categories</a>. Using either <i>style</i> or only <i>period</i> would be wrong or ambiguous. And again there are very few exceptions like <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Architecture_of_Iran_by_style" title="Category:Architecture of Iran by style">Architecture of Iran by style</a></i> which must stands. Anyway, keep in mind that I put all Iranian and Italian categories with <i>period</i> on my watchlist, so you can sleep easily - because if anyone tries to change it I'll stop it. :) --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-20230111235000-DenghiùComm-20230111233500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:50, 11 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20230111235000-DenghiùComm-20230111233500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20230111235000-DenghiùComm-20230111233500"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DenghiùComm-20230112000500-Orijentolog-20230111235000"></span>For Italy, the only tolerated "by style" category was the architectural one of contemporary styles <a href="/wiki/Category:Architecture_of_Italy_by_style" title="Category:Architecture of Italy by style">Category:Architecture of Italy by style</a>. In the next few days I will try to fix the wrong category names. 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href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Idw/lang&action=edit">+/−</a></small></span></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Affected: </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/File:Torud_-_Chah_Shirin_Mountains_Topography.png" title="File:Torud - Chah Shirin Mountains Topography.png">File:Torud - Chah Shirin Mountains Topography.png</a></li></ul> <p>And also: </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/File:Haj_Aligholi_Lake_Topography.png" title="File:Haj Aligholi Lake Topography.png">File:Haj Aligholi Lake Topography.png</a></li></ul> <p>Yours sincerely, — 🇺🇦<span style="font-size:115%;background:#FFA"><a href="/wiki/User:Jeff_G." title="User:Jeff G.">Jeff G.</a></span> ツ<small><sub> please <a href="/wiki/Template:Ping" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Ping">ping</a> or <a href="/wiki/User:Jeff_G./talk" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jeff G./talk">talk to me</a></sub></small>🇺🇦 <a 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data-mw-comment-end="h-Contentious_moves-20230214141000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Contentious moves"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Golden-20230214141000-Contentious_moves"></span>Do you have any actual explanation for moving the clear common name of the bridges other than "see the books" (what?)? — <a href="/wiki/User:Golden" title="User:Golden"><span style="color:#0F52BA;">Golden</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Golden" title="User talk:Golden"><span style="font-size:82%"><span><i>call me maybe?</i></span></span></a></sup> <a 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This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at <a href="/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard/User_problems" title="Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems">Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems</a>. This is in relation to an issue with which you may have been involved. </div></div><p> — <a href="/wiki/User:Golden" title="User:Golden"><span style="color:#0F52BA;">Golden</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Golden" title="User talk:Golden"><span style="font-size:82%"><span><i>call me maybe?</i></span></span></a></sup> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Golden-20230214202000-COM:AN/U" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:20, 14 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Golden-20230214202000-COM:AN/U"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Golden-20230214202000-COM:AN/U"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Gift_for_u" data-mw-thread-id="h-Gift_for_u-20230218120600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Gift_for_u-20230218120600"></span>Gift for u<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Gift_for_u-20230218120600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Gift for u"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mehdi-20230218120600-Gift_for_u"></span>Hi dear . I saw u do not use any user scripts in ur <a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog/common.js" title="User:Orijentolog/common.js">Commons.js</a>. So I Have simple suggestion for facilitate adding templates to the editor. With <a href="/wiki/User:Mehdi/Orijentolog.js" title="User:Mehdi/Orijentolog.js">this codes</a> u can add <code>{{Wikidata Infobox}}</code> and <code>{{Taken on|xxxxxxxx|location=xxxx}}</code> templates easily in ur editor. U can customise and replace with any other templates. With regards:--<span style="font: 18px 'Pristina'"><a href="/wiki/User:Mehdi" title="User:Mehdi"><span style="color: blue">Mehdi</span></a></span><span style="font: 14px 'Pristina'"><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mehdi" title="User talk:Mehdi"><span style="color: red">Talk</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Mehdi-20230218120600-Gift_for_u" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:06, 18 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mehdi-20230218120600-Gift_for_u"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mehdi-20230218120600-Gift_for_u"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mehdi-20230218121400-Mehdi-20230218120600"></span>Please copy all of contain from <a href="/wiki/User:Mehdi/Orijentolog.js" title="User:Mehdi/Orijentolog.js">this page</a> and paste in ur <a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog/common.js" title="User:Orijentolog/common.js">Commons.js</a>. --<span style="font: 18px 'Pristina'"><a href="/wiki/User:Mehdi" title="User:Mehdi"><span style="color: blue">Mehdi</span></a></span><span style="font: 14px 'Pristina'"><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mehdi" title="User talk:Mehdi"><span style="color: red">Talk</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Mehdi-20230218121400-Mehdi-20230218120600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:14, 18 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mehdi-20230218121400-Mehdi-20230218120600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mehdi-20230218121400-Mehdi-20230218120600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mehdi-20230220061600-Mehdi-20230218120600"></span>Hi dear. Please update ur <a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog/common.js" title="User:Orijentolog/common.js">Commons.js</a> like <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AMehdi%2FOrijentolog.js&diff=734047454&oldid=733568155">this edit</a>. Tnx --<span style="font: 18px 'Pristina'"><a href="/wiki/User:Mehdi" title="User:Mehdi"><span style="color: blue">Mehdi</span></a></span><span style="font: 14px 'Pristina'"><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mehdi" title="User talk:Mehdi"><span style="color: red">Talk</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Mehdi-20230220061600-Mehdi-20230218120600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:16, 20 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mehdi-20230220061600-Mehdi-20230218120600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mehdi-20230220061600-Mehdi-20230218120600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mehdi-20230221054300-Mehdi-20230218120600"></span>Hi dear, I found new way for daily automatic update <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AOrijentolog&diff=714556380&oldid=650523070">ur user contrib statics</a>! Please add <code>{{User:MDanielsBot/GlobalEC}}</code> and <code>{{User:MDanielsBot/LocalEC}}</code> to ur user page (<a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mehdi&diff=prev&oldid=734044866">Like this</a>). After 24 hours u can replace templates with <code>{{User contrib|{{User:MDanielsBot/LocalEC/Orijentolog}}}}</code> and <code>{{User contrib SUL|{{User:MDanielsBot/GlobalEC/Orijentolog}}}}</code> (<a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mehdi&diff=next&oldid=734044866">Like this</a>)! MDanielsBot Update your statics every day ;-) --<span style="font: 18px 'Pristina'"><a href="/wiki/User:Mehdi" title="User:Mehdi"><span style="color: blue">Mehdi</span></a></span><span style="font: 14px 'Pristina'"><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mehdi" title="User talk:Mehdi"><span style="color: red">Talk</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Mehdi-20230221054300-Mehdi-20230218120600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:43, 21 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mehdi-20230221054300-Mehdi-20230218120600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mehdi-20230221054300-Mehdi-20230218120600"></span></dd></dl> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mehdi-20230331075200-Gift_for_u"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a>: </span>:Hi dude. Pleaes change ur <a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog/common.js" title="User:Orijentolog/common.js">Commons.js</a> per <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/745567929" title="Special:Diff/745567929">this diff</a>. After this, u can drag the date and push the button <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Antu_applications-graphics.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/Antu_applications-graphics.svg/15px-Antu_applications-graphics.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/Antu_applications-graphics.svg/23px-Antu_applications-graphics.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/Antu_applications-graphics.svg/30px-Antu_applications-graphics.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a></span> for insert taken on template easily (Without copy/paste). --<span style="font: 18px 'Pristina'"><a href="/wiki/User:Mehdi" title="User:Mehdi"><span style="color: blue">Mehdi</span></a></span><span style="font: 14px 'Pristina'"><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mehdi" title="User talk:Mehdi"><span style="color: red">Talk</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Mehdi-20230331075200-Gift_for_u" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:52, 31 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mehdi-20230331075200-Gift_for_u"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mehdi-20230331075200-Gift_for_u"></span> </p><p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mehdi-20230331215000-Gift_for_u"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a>: </span>: Excuse me dear. Please update ur <a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog/common.js" title="User:Orijentolog/common.js">Commons.js</a> per <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/745741333" title="Special:Diff/745741333">this diff</a> and <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jeeputer&oldid=745738498#راهنمایی%20در%20خصوص%20summary">related discussion</a>. (I promise u this is last time ;-( ) --<span style="font: 18px 'Pristina'"><a href="/wiki/User:Mehdi" title="User:Mehdi"><span style="color: blue">Mehdi</span></a></span><span style="font: 14px 'Pristina'"><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mehdi" title="User talk:Mehdi"><span style="color: red">Talk</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Mehdi-20230331215000-Gift_for_u" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:50, 31 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mehdi-20230331215000-Gift_for_u"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mehdi-20230331215000-Gift_for_u"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20230401023300-Mehdi-20230331215000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Mehdi" title="User:Mehdi">Mehdi</a>: </span> Hah, no problem, you're always welcome here. :) I believe no need for updating that because there's a button for <i>Wikidata Infobox</i> down and I get it by one click. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-20230401023300-Mehdi-20230331215000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:33, 1 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20230401023300-Mehdi-20230331215000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20230401023300-Mehdi-20230331215000"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mehdi-20230401115500-Orijentolog-20230401023300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a>: </span> It was sample template. U can replcae with every template you want.--<span style="font: 18px 'Pristina'"><a href="/wiki/User:Mehdi" title="User:Mehdi"><span style="color: blue">Mehdi</span></a></span><span style="font: 14px 'Pristina'"><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mehdi" title="User talk:Mehdi"><span style="color: red">Talk</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Mehdi-20230401115500-Orijentolog-20230401023300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:55, 1 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mehdi-20230401115500-Orijentolog-20230401023300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mehdi-20230401115500-Orijentolog-20230401023300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Keep!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Keep!-20230321115000"><span id="Keep.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Keep!-20230321115000"></span>Keep!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Keep!-20230321115000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Keep!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hanooz-20230321115000-Keep!"></span>Hey. Please read <a href="/wiki/Commons:REDCAT" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:REDCAT">COM:REDCAT</a>. I think it's better to keep (even create/recreate) redirects. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hanooz" title="User talk:Hanooz">Hanooz</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Hanooz-20230321115000-Keep!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:50, 21 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hanooz-20230321115000-Keep!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hanooz-20230321115000-Keep!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2023/04#renaming_categories" title="Commons:Village pump/Archive/2023/04"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hanooz-20230503043900-Hanooz-20230321115000"></span>Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2023/04#renaming_categories</a> FYI. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hanooz" title="User talk:Hanooz">Hanooz</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Hanooz-20230503043900-Hanooz-20230321115000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:39, 3 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hanooz-20230503043900-Hanooz-20230321115000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hanooz-20230503043900-Hanooz-20230321115000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="until_universal_template_is_fixed_to_have_"Women_of_[country]_by_age"" data-mw-thread-id="h-until_universal_template_is_fixed_to_have_"Women_of_[country]_by_age"-20230510191000"><span id="until_universal_template_is_fixed_to_have_.22Women_of_.5Bcountry.5D_by_age.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-until_universal_template_is_fixed_to_have_"Women_of_[country]_by_age"-20230510191000"></span>until universal template is fixed to have "Women of [country] by age"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-until_universal_template_is_fixed_to_have_"Women_of_[country]_by_age"-20230510191000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: until universal template is fixed to have "Women of [country] by age""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trade-20230510191000-until_universal_template_is_fixed_to_have_"Women_of_[country]_by_age""></span>Is this truly necessary? <a href="/wiki/User:Trade" title="User:Trade">Trade</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trade" title="User talk:Trade"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Trade-20230510191000-until_universal_template_is_fixed_to_have_"Women_of_[country]_by_age"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:10, 10 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trade-20230510191000-until_universal_template_is_fixed_to_have_"Women_of_[country]_by_age""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trade-20230510191000-until_universal_template_is_fixed_to_have_"Women_of_[country]_by_age""></span> </p><p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20230510191300-until_universal_template_is_fixed_to_have_"Women_of_[country]_by_age""></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Trade" title="User:Trade">Trade</a>: </span> well it looks nicer when you open <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Women_of_Iran" title="Category:Women of Iran">Women of Iran</a></i>, there's nothing keyed any more. I wanted to inform you about it, but I'm glad that you already noticed. Can you insert "ifexist" in template? --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-20230510191300-until_universal_template_is_fixed_to_have_"Women_of_[country]_by_age"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:13, 10 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20230510191300-until_universal_template_is_fixed_to_have_"Women_of_[country]_by_age""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20230510191300-until_universal_template_is_fixed_to_have_"Women_of_[country]_by_age""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trade-20230510191600-Orijentolog-20230510191300"></span>Done, but this is going to result in a lot of red categories. Could you take care of those please? <a href="/wiki/User:Trade" title="User:Trade">Trade</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trade" title="User talk:Trade"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Trade-20230510191600-Orijentolog-20230510191300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:16, 10 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trade-20230510191600-Orijentolog-20230510191300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trade-20230510191600-Orijentolog-20230510191300"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20230510191900-Trade-20230510191600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Trade" title="User:Trade">Trade</a>: </span> You did it wrong. :) I'll insert it soon to show you, please wait few seconds... --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-20230510191900-Trade-20230510191600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:19, 10 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20230510191900-Trade-20230510191600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20230510191900-Trade-20230510191600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20230510192900-Trade-20230510191600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Trade" title="User:Trade">Trade</a>: </span> <span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> <b><bdi>Done</bdi></b> Now red links wont appear. It gives <i>Women of [country] by age</i> only for Iran, because category exists. For all other it remains the same. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-20230510192900-Trade-20230510191600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:29, 10 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20230510192900-Trade-20230510191600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20230510192900-Trade-20230510191600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="FR" data-mw-thread-id="h-FR-20230515060800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-FR-20230515060800"></span>FR<span data-mw-comment-end="h-FR-20230515060800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: FR"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mehdi-20230515060800-FR"></span>Hi dear Orijentolog. First of all, thank you for your efforts . Per <a href="/wiki/Commons:File_renaming#Which_files_should_be_renamed?" title="Commons:File renaming">Commons:File renaming#Which files should be renamed?</a> We cannot rename any file with any unacceptable reasons! Why u <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/763283253" title="Special:Diff/763283253">renamed</a> <b>File:Kapar Houses-Iran, Sistan va balochestan خانه های کپری، منطقه سیستان و بلوچستان و جنوب کرمان</b> to <b>File:Unidentified place in southeastern Iran</b> ? The subject of this photo is Capri houses in Iran, but you have focused on the place where the photo was taken! If the location of the photo is very important to you, you can ask <a href="/wiki/User:Mostafameraji" title="User:Mostafameraji">Mostafameraji</a> to write coordinates and details on the discussion page.--<span style="font: 18px 'Pristina'"><a href="/wiki/User:Mehdi" title="User:Mehdi"><span style="color: blue">Mehdi</span></a></span><span style="font: 14px 'Pristina'"><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mehdi" title="User talk:Mehdi"><span style="color: red">Talk</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Mehdi-20230515060800-FR" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:08, 15 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mehdi-20230515060800-FR"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mehdi-20230515060800-FR"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20230516003100-Mehdi-20230515060800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Mehdi" title="User:Mehdi">Mehdi</a>: </span> well, there are multiply issues with that series: all photos are taken from the same place, while they illustrate various places in Kerman Province and Sistan and Baluchestan Province, also coords give wrong locations. The previous titles also focused on locations, claiming both provinces in Persian, and the latter one in English. If I leave it under <i>Unidentified locations in Iran</i> with old names, some editor may conclude it's from Sistan and Baluchestan, and that could be wrong (they may be from Kerman Province). So it's better on this way, please remember it's only temporary solution, when I find precise location (with Mostafameraji' help or without), I'll rename it again. Not a big deal. :) --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-20230516003100-Mehdi-20230515060800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:31, 16 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20230516003100-Mehdi-20230515060800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20230516003100-Mehdi-20230515060800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:Concrete_architecture" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Concrete_architecture-20230818065200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Concrete_architecture-20230818065200"></span><a href="/wiki/Category:Concrete_architecture" title="Category:Concrete architecture">Category:Concrete_architecture</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Concrete_architecture-20230818065200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: Category:Concrete_architecture"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="4" style="border:2px solid #D6D0B4; background-color:#FFEAC8;" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JopkeB-20230818065200-Category:Concrete_architecture"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Category discussion warning" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg/75px-Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg.png" decoding="async" width="75" height="65" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg/113px-Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg/150px-Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></span><span class="layouttemplateargs" style="display:none;speak:none;" title="template=Cdw 1%3DCategory%3AConcrete_architecture 2%3DCommons%3ACategories+for+discussion%2F2023%2F08%2FCategory%3AConcrete_architecture"> </span> </td> <td> <p><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Concrete_architecture" title="Category:Concrete architecture">Concrete architecture</a></b> has been listed at <a href="/wiki/Commons:Categories_for_discussion" title="Commons:Categories for discussion">Commons:Categories for discussion</a> so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at <b><a href="/wiki/Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2023/08/Category:Concrete_architecture" title="Commons:Categories for discussion/2023/08/Category:Concrete architecture">its entry</a></b>. </p> <div style="font-size:smaller;"> <p>If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the <i>category</i> may be deleted, your <i>hard work</i> (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. </p> </div> <p>In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. 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title="User talk:JopkeB"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-JopkeB-20230818065200-Category:Concrete_architecture" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:52, 18 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JopkeB-20230818065200-Category:Concrete_architecture"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JopkeB-20230818065200-Category:Concrete_architecture"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Periodes_and_centuries_in_Art_of_Iran" data-mw-thread-id="h-Periodes_and_centuries_in_Art_of_Iran-20231130104000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Periodes_and_centuries_in_Art_of_Iran-20231130104000"></span>Periodes and centuries in Art of Iran<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Periodes_and_centuries_in_Art_of_Iran-20231130104000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: Periodes and centuries in Art of Iran"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nous-20231130104000-Periodes_and_centuries_in_Art_of_Iran"></span>It is as you say, but I took a different approach. So, for example, there is no doubt that 17-century art from Iran is Safavid art, therefore I put 17th-century manuscripts from Iran in category safavid manuscripts. So it is not only ceramics. Of course, I didn't do such things with, for example, 18th century, for reasons that you presented in my discussion. So after your reverses there is no consistency in categorization. I will not reverse you, after all, I don't think that this little chaos is such a big deal. But I inform you. Thanks for your info, and for all your work, and have a nice day. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nous" title="User:Nous">Nous</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nous" title="User talk:Nous"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Nous-20231130104000-Periodes_and_centuries_in_Art_of_Iran" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:40, 30 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nous-20231130104000-Periodes_and_centuries_in_Art_of_Iran"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nous-20231130104000-Periodes_and_centuries_in_Art_of_Iran"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_reason_for_the_sabotage?" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_reason_for_the_sabotage?-20231202093700"><span id="The_reason_for_the_sabotage.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_reason_for_the_sabotage?-20231202093700"></span>The reason for the sabotage?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_reason_for_the_sabotage?-20231202093700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: The reason for the sabotage?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shams948-20231202093700-The_reason_for_the_sabotage?"></span>Please explain why you destroyed my 10 years of hard work. Are you an enemy?<a href="/wiki/User:Shams948" title="User:Shams948">Shams948</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shams948" title="User talk:Shams948"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Shams948-20231202093700-The_reason_for_the_sabotage?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:37, 2 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shams948-20231202093700-The_reason_for_the_sabotage?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shams948-20231202093700-The_reason_for_the_sabotage?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Overuse_of_{{Most_populous_cities_of_the_world}}" data-mw-thread-id="h-Overuse_of_{{Most_populous_cities_of_the_world}}-20231213101200"><span id="Overuse_of_.7B.7BMost_populous_cities_of_the_world.7D.7D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Overuse_of_{{Most_populous_cities_of_the_world}}-20231213101200"></span>Overuse of <a href="/wiki/Template:Most_populous_cities_of_the_world" title="Template:Most populous cities of the world"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;">{{Most populous cities of the world}}</span></a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Overuse_of_{{Most_populous_cities_of_the_world}}-20231213101200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Overuse of {{Most populous cities of the world}}"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DanielPenfield-20231213101200-Overuse_of_{{Most_populous_cities_of_the_world}}"></span>Please read <a href="/wiki/Template:Most_populous_cities_of_the_world/doc" title="Template:Most populous cities of the world/doc">Template:Most populous cities of the world/doc</a>: <i>This template is intended for use with categories involving international interactions or trends like trade and international politics. <b>Local topics like buildings, culture, and people should use city- and country-specific templates</b>.</i>" -- <a href="/wiki/User:DanielPenfield" title="User:DanielPenfield">DanielPenfield</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DanielPenfield" title="User talk:DanielPenfield"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-DanielPenfield-20231213101200-Overuse_of_{{Most_populous_cities_of_the_world}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:12, 13 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DanielPenfield-20231213101200-Overuse_of_{{Most_populous_cities_of_the_world}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DanielPenfield-20231213101200-Overuse_of_{{Most_populous_cities_of_the_world}}"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Indo-Persian_armour" data-mw-thread-id="h-Indo-Persian_armour-20231227021800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Indo-Persian_armour-20231227021800"></span>Indo-Persian armour<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Indo-Persian_armour-20231227021800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: Indo-Persian armour"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LouisAragon-20231227021800-Indo-Persian_armour"></span>This category <a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Persian_Arms_and_Armours_-_Kremlin_Armoury_Museum_Moscow.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=833467847">[4]</a> has been inserted on a relatively large scale as far as I can see. Thoughts? - <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:LouisAragon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:LouisAragon (page does not exist)">LouisAragon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LouisAragon" title="User talk:LouisAragon"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-LouisAragon-20231227021800-Indo-Persian_armour" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:18, 27 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LouisAragon-20231227021800-Indo-Persian_armour"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LouisAragon-20231227021800-Indo-Persian_armour"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20231227035600-LouisAragon-20231227021800"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:LouisAragon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:LouisAragon (page does not exist)">LouisAragon</a>: </span> I fixed a little bit. Astonishingly, they put ancient Iranian and Ottoman weaponry under "Indo-Persian" (?!). As far as I know, it should stands for Indosphere in medieval-modern era. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-20231227035600-LouisAragon-20231227021800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:56, 27 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20231227035600-LouisAragon-20231227021800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20231227035600-LouisAragon-20231227021800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Art_in_Iran_is_"art_by_country_of_location"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Art_in_Iran_is_"art_by_country_of_location"-20240211173600"><span id="Art_in_Iran_is_.22art_by_country_of_location.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Art_in_Iran_is_"art_by_country_of_location"-20240211173600"></span>Art in Iran is "art by country of location"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Art_in_Iran_is_"art_by_country_of_location"-20240211173600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: Art in Iran is "art by country of location""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nous-20240211173600-Art_in_Iran_is_"art_by_country_of_location""></span>You put all my categories of "Art of Iran" by century in "Art in Rran" by century categories. I want to remind you, that "Art in" i s by definition category of "art by country of location". What you did means that things like, lets say, 17th-century Persian miniature, now in Metropolitan Museum (which I put in category "17th-century art of iran") is now both in category "17th-century art in Iran" and "17th-century art in United States". So, according to you, it is both in United States and Iran, at the same time. That's the first thing. Second, in fact more important, is that you did all of this, something that change the sense of all my work in categorization of iranian art, without any consultation with me. In other words, you treat wikipedia like your private property. But, as you well know (although you forget it sometimes) it is not your private property. It is communal propety. I stopped editing wikimedia, because after your changes I don't see too much sense in my work, when you can single handedly reverse it anytime, without even a word to me. I'm not too good in fighting, edit wars, and all this bullshit. But still, I decided to write to you. Think about all this. I hope that you revert your editions.--<a href="/wiki/User:Nous" title="User:Nous">Nous</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nous" title="User talk:Nous"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Nous-20240211173600-Art_in_Iran_is_"art_by_country_of_location"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:36, 11 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nous-20240211173600-Art_in_Iran_is_"art_by_country_of_location""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nous-20240211173600-Art_in_Iran_is_"art_by_country_of_location""></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nous-20240212151700-Art_in_Iran_is_"art_by_country_of_location""></span>Ok, now that you explain it to me, I see that you were right. Maybe it is oversimplification, but I think that my problem was that I didn't see the bigger picture, namely, I wanted to do something very rational and very "correct" with categories about "Art of Iran", "Art from Iran" etc., but I didn't see that the problem is not only about "Art of Iran" etc., but about Art of "put here what you want" etc. And I didn't see it, because I work in wikimedia for relatively short time period, and I don't know the history. Apologies for too big words. But at the and, I still think that there is a problem, because we have categories like "art from", which belongs to category "Art by country of origin", and if we want to understand "Art in" by your way, there is a problem, because it becomes someway misleading, or at least it is difficult to see the difference. But now I understand that there is no simple solution - to solve this problem, we need to have consensus about all categories like "Art in", "Art from", "Art of", not only about "Art of Iran" etc. That's why we've got to live with what we've got, namely your compromise. It is not perfect, but it is good for the moment. Again, sorry for too big words sometimes, and thank you for explanation.--<a href="/wiki/User:Nous" title="User:Nous">Nous</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nous" title="User talk:Nous"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Nous-20240212151700-Art_in_Iran_is_"art_by_country_of_location"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:17, 12 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nous-20240212151700-Art_in_Iran_is_"art_by_country_of_location""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nous-20240212151700-Art_in_Iran_is_"art_by_country_of_location""></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:Religious_buildings_by_religion_by_country" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Religious_buildings_by_religion_by_country-20240313124500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Religious_buildings_by_religion_by_country-20240313124500"></span><a href="/wiki/Category:Religious_buildings_by_religion_by_country" title="Category:Religious buildings by religion by country">Category:Religious_buildings_by_religion_by_country</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Religious_buildings_by_religion_by_country-20240313124500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: Category:Religious_buildings_by_religion_by_country"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="4" style="border:2px solid #D6D0B4; background-color:#FFEAC8;" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laurel_Lodged-20240313124500-Category:Religious_buildings_by_religion_by_country"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Category discussion warning" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg/75px-Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg.png" decoding="async" width="75" height="65" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg/113px-Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg/150px-Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></span><span class="layouttemplateargs" style="display:none;speak:none;" title="template=Cdw 1%3DCategory%3AReligious_buildings_by_religion_by_country 2%3DCommons%3ACategories+for+discussion%2F2024%2F03%2FCategory%3AReligious_buildings_by_religion_by_country"> </span> </td> <td> <p><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Religious_buildings_by_religion_by_country" title="Category:Religious buildings by religion by country">Religious buildings by religion by country</a></b> has been listed at <a href="/wiki/Commons:Categories_for_discussion" title="Commons:Categories for discussion">Commons:Categories for discussion</a> so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. 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href="/wiki/User_talk:Laurel_Lodged" title="User talk:Laurel Lodged"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Laurel_Lodged-20240313124500-Category:Religious_buildings_by_religion_by_country" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:45, 13 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laurel_Lodged-20240313124500-Category:Religious_buildings_by_religion_by_country"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laurel_Lodged-20240313124500-Category:Religious_buildings_by_religion_by_country"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Disruptive_editing" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disruptive_editing-20240623113100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Disruptive_editing-20240623113100"></span>Disruptive editing<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Disruptive_editing-20240623113100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: Disruptive editing"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CFA1877-20240623113100-Disruptive_editing"></span>Hello. Actually that's what I could say to you. You are reverting without giving a single reason, which really is 'Disruptive editing'. If you don't agree, argue, talk, whatever, but stop indiscriminately reversing without any rational logic. And above all, be careful with threats and that language. <a href="/wiki/User:CFA1877" title="User:CFA1877">CFA1877</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CFA1877" title="User talk:CFA1877"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-CFA1877-20240623113100-Disruptive_editing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:31, 23 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CFA1877-20240623113100-Disruptive_editing"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CFA1877-20240623113100-Disruptive_editing"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CFA1877-20240623113700-CFA1877-20240623113100"></span>Years, ahá, but in many cases are actually weeks or months. I'm not acting irrationally, I don't think we should overload the categories with so many templates. There is no point in adding templates when there are already links through categories and other forms. Furthermore, you are entering categories that you have not even edited. Give me reasons. Because it gives the impression that you are reverting chaotically. If you revert me to categories where you have never set foot before, you are the one who is creating problems for free. <a href="/wiki/User:CFA1877" title="User:CFA1877">CFA1877</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CFA1877" title="User talk:CFA1877"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-CFA1877-20240623113700-CFA1877-20240623113100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:37, 23 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CFA1877-20240623113700-CFA1877-20240623113100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CFA1877-20240623113700-CFA1877-20240623113100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="com:speedy_delete" data-mw-thread-id="h-com:speedy_delete-20240719234000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-com:speedy_delete-20240719234000"></span><a href="/wiki/Commons:Speedy_delete" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:Speedy delete">com:speedy delete</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-com:speedy_delete-20240719234000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: com:speedy delete"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Billinghurst-20240719234000-com:speedy_delete"></span>Hi. I do not see how <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/900758888" title="Special:Diff/900758888">special:diff/900758888</a> complies with <a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_policy" title="Commons:Deletion policy">Com:Deletion policy</a>. If you think that something no longer belongs, then seek the consensus of your fellow editors on site. Thanks. — <a href="/wiki/User:Billinghurst" title="User:Billinghurst">billinghurst</a> <i><span style="font-size:90%;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Billinghurst" title="User talk:Billinghurst">sDrewth</a></span></i> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Billinghurst-20240719234000-com:speedy_delete" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:40, 19 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Billinghurst-20240719234000-com:speedy_delete"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Billinghurst-20240719234000-com:speedy_delete"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Abu_Zayd_Kashani" data-mw-thread-id="h-Abu_Zayd_Kashani-20240720080200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Abu_Zayd_Kashani-20240720080200"></span>Abu Zayd Kashani<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Abu_Zayd_Kashani-20240720080200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: Abu Zayd Kashani"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nous-20240720080200-Abu_Zayd_Kashani"></span>I started this article about Abu Zayd, doing reaserch, and I was so dissapointed that there is no image of this mihrab at commons. And yesterday I decided to check your recent editions (well, maybe he is doing something interesting). And that was it - you recently edited picture of this mihrab:) It was like winning in a lottery. Thank you for your work. Have a nie day:) <a href="/wiki/User:Nous" title="User:Nous">Nous</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nous" title="User talk:Nous"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Nous-20240720080200-Abu_Zayd_Kashani" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:02, 20 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nous-20240720080200-Abu_Zayd_Kashani"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nous-20240720080200-Abu_Zayd_Kashani"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nous-20240727172600-Abu_Zayd_Kashani"></span>And it is really a great pleasure to see another member of Abu Taher family in wikidata:) Thanks </p><p>I decided to wrote english version first. I hope that you enjoy it:) <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ab%C5%AB_Zayd_ibn_Mu%E1%B8%A5ammad_ibn_Ab%C4%AB_Zayd">Abu Zayd</a>]--<a href="/wiki/User:Nous" title="User:Nous">Nous</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nous" title="User talk:Nous"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Nous-20240727172600-Abu_Zayd_Kashani" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:26, 27 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nous-20240727172600-Abu_Zayd_Kashani"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nous-20240727172600-Abu_Zayd_Kashani"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:WikiProject_Iran_by_city" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:WikiProject_Iran_by_city-20240904081900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:WikiProject_Iran_by_city-20240904081900"></span><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Iran_by_city" title="Category:WikiProject Iran by city">Category:WikiProject_Iran_by_city</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:WikiProject_Iran_by_city-20240904081900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: Category:WikiProject_Iran_by_city"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="4" style="border:2px solid #D6D0B4; background-color:#FFEAC8;" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamant1-20240904081900-Category:WikiProject_Iran_by_city"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Category discussion warning" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg/75px-Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg.png" decoding="async" width="75" height="65" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg/113px-Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg/150px-Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></span><span class="layouttemplateargs" style="display:none;speak:none;" title="template=Cdw 1%3DCategory%3AWikiProject_Iran_by_city 2%3DCommons%3ACategories+for+discussion%2F2024%2F09%2FCategory%3AWikiProject_Iran_by_city"> </span> </td> <td> <p><b><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Iran_by_city" title="Category:WikiProject Iran by city">WikiProject Iran by city</a></b> has been listed at <a href="/wiki/Commons:Categories_for_discussion" title="Commons:Categories for discussion">Commons:Categories for discussion</a> so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at <b><a href="/wiki/Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2024/09/Category:WikiProject_Iran_by_city" title="Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/09/Category:WikiProject Iran by city">its entry</a></b>. </p> <div style="font-size:smaller;"> <p>If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the <i>category</i> may be deleted, your <i>hard work</i> (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. </p> </div> <p>In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you! </p> <hr/> <div class="center" lang=""><span style="font-size:small;line-height:1.4" class="plainlinks noprint"><a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cdw/cs"><bdi class="language lang-cs" lang="cs">čeština</bdi></a> <b>∙</b> <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cdw/de"><bdi class="language lang-de" lang="de">Deutsch</bdi></a> <b>∙</b> <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cdw/en"><bdi class="language lang-en" lang="en">English</bdi></a> <b>∙</b> <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cdw/es"><bdi class="language lang-es" lang="es">español</bdi></a> <b>∙</b> <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cdw/fr"><bdi class="language lang-fr" lang="fr">français</bdi></a> <b>∙</b> <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cdw/it"><bdi class="language lang-it" 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<p><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Categories_of_cities_of_Iran" title="Category:Categories of cities of Iran">Categories of cities of Iran</a></b> has been listed at <a href="/wiki/Commons:Categories_for_discussion" title="Commons:Categories for discussion">Commons:Categories for discussion</a> so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at <b><a href="/wiki/Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2024/09/Category:Categories_of_cities_of_Iran" title="Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/09/Category:Categories of cities of Iran">its entry</a></b>. </p> <div style="font-size:smaller;"> <p>If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the <i>category</i> may be deleted, your <i>hard work</i> (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. </p> </div> <p>In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. 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<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Pigsonthewing-20240904162800-Category:Categories_of_cities_of_Iran" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:28, 4 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-20240904162800-Category:Categories_of_cities_of_Iran"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-20240904162800-Category:Categories_of_cities_of_Iran"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Be_Strong" data-mw-thread-id="h-Be_Strong-20240905134200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Be_Strong-20240905134200"></span>Be Strong<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Be_Strong-20240905134200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: Be Strong"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-POS78-20240905134200-Be_Strong"></span>You are not a weak man, so don't act like children! You should answer the rest with patience and logic. Anger is for five-year-olds, not you. come to your senses man! :) <span style="color:#848482"><small>{{User|</small><span><a href="/wiki/User:POS78" title="User:POS78"><span style="color:#4e7a0b">POS78</span></a></span><small>}}</small></span> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:POS78" title="User talk:POS78"><span style="color:#e3b009;font-weight:bold">talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-POS78-20240905134200-Be_Strong" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:42, 5 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-POS78-20240905134200-Be_Strong"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-POS78-20240905134200-Be_Strong"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Matrix-20240905182000-POS78-20240905134200"></span>This. —<b>Matrix(!)</b> {<i><a href="/wiki/User:Matrix" title="User:Matrix">user</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matrix" title="User talk:Matrix">talk?</a> - <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Matrix" title="Special:Contributions/Matrix"><sub><small><s>useless</s></small></sub>contributions</a></i>} <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Matrix-20240905182000-POS78-20240905134200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:20, 5 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matrix-20240905182000-POS78-20240905134200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matrix-20240905182000-POS78-20240905134200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-POS78-20240926085200-POS78-20240905134200"></span>Welcome brother. :) <span style="color:#848482"><small>{{User|</small><span><a href="/wiki/User:POS78" title="User:POS78"><span style="color:#4e7a0b">POS78</span></a></span><small>}}</small></span> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:POS78" title="User talk:POS78"><span style="color:#e3b009;font-weight:bold">talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-POS78-20240926085200-POS78-20240905134200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:52, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-POS78-20240926085200-POS78-20240905134200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-POS78-20240926085200-POS78-20240905134200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Proposed_solution" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proposed_solution-20240905182900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proposed_solution-20240905182900"></span>Proposed solution<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proposed_solution-20240905182900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=40" title="Edit section: Proposed solution"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Matrix-20240905182900-Proposed_solution"></span>Might want to weigh your opinion on my proposed compromise to this issue <a href="/wiki/Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2024/09/Category:WikiProject_Iran_by_city" title="Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/09/Category:WikiProject Iran by city">here</a> —<b>Matrix(!)</b> {<i><a href="/wiki/User:Matrix" title="User:Matrix">user</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matrix" title="User talk:Matrix">talk?</a> - <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Matrix" title="Special:Contributions/Matrix"><sub><small><s>useless</s></small></sub>contributions</a></i>} <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Matrix-20240905182900-Proposed_solution" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:29, 5 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matrix-20240905182900-Proposed_solution"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matrix-20240905182900-Proposed_solution"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Goodbye_!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Goodbye_!-20240906063000"><span id="Goodbye_.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Goodbye_!-20240906063000"></span>Goodbye !<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Goodbye_!-20240906063000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=41" title="Edit section: Goodbye !"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DenghiùComm-20240906063000-Goodbye_!"></span>I'm leaving Commons too. Goodbye! <a href="/wiki/User:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User:DenghiùComm">DenghiùComm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Denghi%C3%B9Comm" title="User talk:DenghiùComm"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-DenghiùComm-20240906063000-Goodbye_!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:30, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DenghiùComm-20240906063000-Goodbye_!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DenghiùComm-20240906063000-Goodbye_!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deleted_categories" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deleted_categories-20240926161500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deleted_categories-20240926161500"></span>Deleted categories<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deleted_categories-20240926161500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=42" title="Edit section: Deleted categories"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamant1-20240926161500-Deleted_categories"></span>You should do an undeletion request if your going to restore categories that were previously deleted instead of just getting in another edit war. You should have learned the lesson the first time. <a href="/wiki/User:Adamant1" title="User:Adamant1">Adamant1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Adamant1" title="User talk:Adamant1"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Adamant1-20240926161500-Deleted_categories" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamant1-20240926161500-Deleted_categories"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamant1-20240926161500-Deleted_categories"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20240926161700-Adamant1-20240926161500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Adamant1" title="User:Adamant1">Adamant1</a>: </span> wrong, you should not destroy the category tree just because you don't understand it. Read Jmabel's message on your talk page. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-20240926161700-Adamant1-20240926161500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:17, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20240926161700-Adamant1-20240926161500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20240926161700-Adamant1-20240926161500"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20240926162100-Adamant1-20240926161500"></span>So stop vandalizing our project with your ignorant edit warring. If a decision is made to change all, it will be changed comprehensively either by me or admin. Until that time unification will be kept and Wikiproject Iran would be a victim of your destructiveness. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-20240926162100-Adamant1-20240926161500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:21, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20240926162100-Adamant1-20240926161500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20240926162100-Adamant1-20240926161500"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 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data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="description en" style="display:inline;">It is important to keep a cool head, especially when responding to comments against you or your edits. <a href="/wiki/Commons:No_personal_attacks" title="Commons:No personal attacks">Personal attacks</a> and <a href="/wiki/Commons:Do_not_disrupt_Commons_to_illustrate_a_point" title="Commons:Do not disrupt Commons to illustrate a point">disruptive comments</a> only escalate a situation; please keep calm and remember that action can be taken against other parties if necessary. Please try to remain <a href="/wiki/Commons:Civility" title="Commons:Civility">civil</a> with your comments. Thanks!</div> </div> <p>Please refrain from calling users who disagree with you on categorization "destructive". I can understand your frustration but let's turn down the temperature a little.--<a href="/wiki/User:Abzeronow" title="User:Abzeronow">Abzeronow</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abzeronow" title="User talk:Abzeronow"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Abzeronow-20240926165200-Please_remain_calm_and_collegial" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:52, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Abzeronow-20240926165200-Please_remain_calm_and_collegial"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Abzeronow-20240926165200-Please_remain_calm_and_collegial"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20240926233300-Abzeronow-20240926165200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Abzeronow" title="User:Abzeronow">Abzeronow</a>: </span> I'm calm, don't worry. There's no any "disagreement" here, but indeed only destructiveness. To clarify: a month ago Adamant1 started to make empty tens of categories from <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Buildings_in_Iran_by_shape_by_city" title="Category:Buildings in Iran by shape by city">Buildings in Iran by shape by city</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Iran_by_city" title="Category:WikiProject Iran by city">WikiProject Iran by city</a></i> and <i><a href="/wiki/Category:Categories_of_cities_of_Iran" title="Category:Categories of cities of Iran">Categories of cities of Iran</a></i>, giving them for speedy deletions, because he believes they are "nonsense". Of course, as always admins do speedy deletions without deeper checking and it doesn't imply they share his stance. After all, his deletions affected 10-15% of existing categories, a minority. After I noticed what he was doing, I started to undo his deletion proposals, so he started arguing for deletions at CfDs. The <a href="/wiki/Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2024/09/Category:Towers_in_Iran" title="Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/09/Category:Towers in Iran">first proposal</a>, related to buildings by shape, failed. <a href="/wiki/Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2024/09/Category:WikiProject_Iran_by_city" title="Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/09/Category:WikiProject Iran by city">His second proposal</a>, related to delete maintenance categories by city, failed again. It was only renamed. Neither <a href="/wiki/Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2024/09/Category:Categories_of_cities_of_Iran" title="Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/09/Category:Categories of cities of Iran">third one</a> goes according to his wishes as users argue for keeping and/or renaming instead of deleting, at least for now. In last two days, I was restoring those 10-15% categories affected by his failed ideas. Reason is the keeping unification at 100%. He started to edit warring with two categories, the ones which you protected, acting like the earlier deletion was some kind of "consensus" or "admin's decision". It was not, only his playing. His accusations on admin noticeboard are also playing with both me and you. His playing around leads to serious flaws, like <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Images_from_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_in_Eshtehard&diff=prev&oldid=916560162">this edit</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Images_from_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_in_Garmsar&diff=prev&oldid=916011817">this edit</a>, and similar others. There he removed important photo galleries with cultural monuments from the main city categories. That's indeed destructiveness, or vandalism. Now I must check over 400 categories (<a href="/wiki/Category:Images_from_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_in_Iran_by_city" title="Category:Images from Wiki Loves Monuments in Iran by city">369 cities</a> & <a href="/wiki/Category:Images_from_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_in_Iran_by_county" title="Category:Images from Wiki Loves Monuments in Iran by county">50 counties</a>) to determine the damage he was doing. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-20240926233300-Abzeronow-20240926165200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:33, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20240926233300-Abzeronow-20240926165200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20240926233300-Abzeronow-20240926165200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Abzeronow-20240926234700-Orijentolog-20240926233300"></span>Vandalism is intentionally doing things to damage Wikimedia projects, and it's rather hyperbolic to say his edits (which you strongly disagree with) are vandalism. If Adamant is being careless, that will be addressed. <a href="/wiki/User:Abzeronow" title="User:Abzeronow">Abzeronow</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abzeronow" title="User talk:Abzeronow"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Abzeronow-20240926234700-Orijentolog-20240926233300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:47, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Abzeronow-20240926234700-Orijentolog-20240926233300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Abzeronow-20240926234700-Orijentolog-20240926233300"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20240927000000-Abzeronow-20240926234700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Abzeronow" title="User:Abzeronow">Abzeronow</a>: </span> I know, that's why I said "or vandalism". I can not 100% say he's doing it on purpose, but being careless is for sure, as he played with hundreds of categories over just one night. It will take me many more hours or even days to check everything and restore what was deleted against the later consensus. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-20240927000000-Abzeronow-20240926234700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:00, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20240927000000-Abzeronow-20240926234700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20240927000000-Abzeronow-20240926234700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamant1-20240927002500-Orijentolog-20240927000000"></span>Just to clarify a few things on my end. First of all, the second proposal didn't "fail." I'm perfectly fine with the categories being renamed. How they were named previously was my main issue with them and I told Matrix I was perfectly fine with that solution. I wasn't the one started the third CfD either. So that has nothing to do with me even if you want to treat me like it does.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Secondly, I wasn't "acting" like the earlier deletion was some kind of consensus. As I said in the ANU complaint there was a previous discussion about deleting certain categories named "categories of" and that was the consensus at the time. Just because you weren't involved in it and think it wasn't valid doesn't mean I was telling a story or whatever your insinuating. As I told Abzeronow in the ANU complaint I'm more then willing to do CfDs for the categories now that aired your complaints about the whole thing but you really need to knock off the accusatory, insulting tone about it. I'm not doing this out of malice or whatever. There was simply a conversation about something, and I deleted some categories due to the outcome of it. That's just how it works on here sometimes. --<a href="/wiki/User:Adamant1" title="User:Adamant1">Adamant1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Adamant1" title="User talk:Adamant1"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Adamant1-20240927002500-Orijentolog-20240927000000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:25, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamant1-20240927002500-Orijentolog-20240927000000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamant1-20240927002500-Orijentolog-20240927000000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20240927090700-Adamant1-20240927002500"></span>To clarify it more precisely: First, you gave dozens of categories from the <i><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Iran_by_city" title="Category:WikiProject Iran by city">WikiProject Iran by city</a></i> for speedy deletion, then you advocated for their deletion on the CfD (<a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2024/09/Category:WikiProject_Iran_by_city&oldid=919259188">"we shouldn't have categories for non-exiting subjects"</a>), and only then did you agree to rename them. I didn't said you opened the last CfD, but there you advocated for deletion, once again after subjectively giving dozens of categories for speedy deletion.</dd> <dd>Regarding the second point, in fact there was no any consensus to delete "categories of" categories. A single CfD was open at that time, the one related to the <a href="/wiki/Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2023/11/Category:Categories_of_the_Ottoman_Empire" title="Commons:Categories for discussion/2023/11/Category:Categories of the Ottoman Empire">Ottoman Empire</a>, without a consensus reached. Even outside of those discussions, you've done a lot of damage around and it's lucky that I noticed in time. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-20240927090700-Adamant1-20240927002500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:07, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20240927090700-Adamant1-20240927002500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20240927090700-Adamant1-20240927002500"></span> <dl><dd><span class="inline-quote-talk" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: #008560;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adamant1-20240927102900-Orijentolog-20240927090700"></span>I didn't said you opened the last CfD, but there you advocated for deletion</span> And? People do things, then they have opinions about them. I don't really see what the issue is there. Like I can't have an opinion about an area I was working on in a CfD someone else started. Seriously, I really don't get what the issue is with that or why you think it justifies repeatedly accusing me of vandalism and trolling. I'm allowed to participate in CfDs.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="inline-quote-talk" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: #008560;">A single CfD was open at that time, the one related to the without a consensus reached.</span> The discussion is still open. There is no consensus about it either way at this point. But there was discussions about similar categories in other places that did have a consensus to delete the categories in those cases and there's still the guideline about how to name categories which I've pointed out to you several times now and says "There should be one category per topic; multi-subject categories should be avoided. The category name should be unambiguous and not homonymous." A lot, if not all, of these types of categories are inherently ambagious. The default on here as far as I'm aware is to follow a guideline until it's changed. Guidelines don't get ignored just because there's a random CfD about something that doesn't have a conclusion yet. So deleting the categories is 100% valid up until the guideline is changed and/or the CfD's around this are concluded. At least as far as I know and your only counter to that has been an endless stream of personal attacks. --<a href="/wiki/User:Adamant1" title="User:Adamant1">Adamant1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Adamant1" title="User talk:Adamant1"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Adamant1-20240927102900-Orijentolog-20240927090700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:29, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adamant1-20240927102900-Orijentolog-20240927090700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adamant1-20240927102900-Orijentolog-20240927090700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="inline-quote-talk" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: #008560;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orijentolog-20240927114600-Adamant1-20240927102900"></span>And?</span> It means your deleting dozens of categories from the <i><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Iran_by_city" title="Category:WikiProject Iran by city">WikiProject Iran by city</a></i> was baseless, only your personal opinion. It affected a minority of categories and later your ideas were refuted by the consensus. Currently I'm only restoring such categories which are deleted without a consensus, to keep unification and order, yet you again engaged in edit warring. That's disruptive.</dd> <dd><span class="inline-quote-talk" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: #008560;">Seriously, I really don't get what the issue is with that or why you think it justifies repeatedly accusing me of vandalism and trolling</span> I'm well aware that you don't see an issue and that indeed is an issue here, because you're not aware of damage you're doing. Even today I'm spending hours of checking hundreds of categories, finding multiple mistakes (<a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category%3AImages_from_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_in_Behshahr&diff=916018585&oldid=912145948">[5]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category%3AImages_from_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_in_Jiroft&diff=916011982&oldid=798068935">[6]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category%3AImages_from_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_in_Juybar&diff=916012281&oldid=798068955">[7]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category%3AImages_from_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_in_Neka&diff=916011647&oldid=798069162">[8]</a>) similar to those I mentioned above (removing important photo galleries with cultural monuments from the main city categories). Intentionally or unintentionally, you caused damage around and you don't see any problem in it, nor you're willing to admit or apologize, such careless or destructive behavior is completely normal for you. Mistakes happen and it's not hard to admit them, but since you insist on your perfection, I called it as destructiveness. No one guarantees that you won't do something similar in the future, destroying various topics.</dd> <dd><span class="inline-quote-talk" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: #008560;">But there was discussions about similar categories in other places</span> I haven't seen any consensus for similar categories either, but that's irrelevant now. I can ignore the earlier deletions and the fact that you didn't notify me as the creator of the deleted categories. Fine. The only problem is that yesterday you insisted on keeping the deletion of certain categories, even though there is currently no consensus to delete all such maintenance categories. I agree that the categories are ambiguously named and I prefer renaming, but any solution should be done comprehensively.</dd> <dd><span class="inline-quote-talk" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: #008560;">...an endless stream of personal attacks</span> This is a projection. --<a href="/wiki/User:Orijentolog" title="User:Orijentolog">Orijentolog</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Orijentolog-20240927114600-Adamant1-20240927102900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:46, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orijentolog-20240927114600-Adamant1-20240927102900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orijentolog-20240927114600-Adamant1-20240927102900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:India_in_the_1st_millennium" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:India_in_the_1st_millennium-20241019134000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:India_in_the_1st_millennium-20241019134000"></span><a href="/wiki/Category:India_in_the_1st_millennium" title="Category:India in the 1st millennium">Category:India_in_the_1st_millennium</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:India_in_the_1st_millennium-20241019134000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=45" title="Edit section: Category:India_in_the_1st_millennium"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="4" style="border:2px solid #D6D0B4; background-color:#FFEAC8;" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sbb1413-20241019134000-Category:India_in_the_1st_millennium"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Category discussion warning" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg/75px-Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg.png" decoding="async" width="75" height="65" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg/113px-Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg/150px-Nuvola_apps_tree_question.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></span><span class="layouttemplateargs" style="display:none;speak:none;" title="template=Cdw 1%3DCategory%3AIndia_in_the_1st_millennium 2%3DCommons%3ACategories+for+discussion%2F2024%2F10%2FCategory%3AIndia_in_the_1st_millennium"> </span> </td> <td> <p><b><a href="/wiki/Category:India_in_the_1st_millennium" title="Category:India in the 1st millennium">India in the 1st millennium</a></b> has been listed at <a href="/wiki/Commons:Categories_for_discussion" title="Commons:Categories for discussion">Commons:Categories for discussion</a> so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. 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ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_special_thanks_for_Kazerun" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_special_thanks_for_Kazerun-20241028050200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_special_thanks_for_Kazerun-20241028050200"></span>A special thanks for Kazerun<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_special_thanks_for_Kazerun-20241028050200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=46" title="Edit section: A special thanks for Kazerun"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Behnam9395-20241028050200-A_special_thanks_for_Kazerun"></span>Dear Orijentolog, I thank you very much for the improvement of Kazerun. Best wishes <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Behnam9395&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Behnam9395 (page does not exist)">Behnam9395</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Behnam9395" title="User talk:Behnam9395"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Behnam9395-20241028050200-A_special_thanks_for_Kazerun" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:02, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Behnam9395-20241028050200-A_special_thanks_for_Kazerun"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Behnam9395-20241028050200-A_special_thanks_for_Kazerun"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-पाटलिपुत्र-20241124162800-Category_names"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Kharg_or_Khargu" data-mw-thread-id="h-Kharg_or_Khargu-20241211123200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Kharg_or_Khargu-20241211123200"></span>Kharg or Khargu<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Kharg_or_Khargu-20241211123200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orijentolog&action=edit&section=48" title="Edit section: Kharg or Khargu"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stunteltje-20241211123200-Kharg_or_Khargu"></span>See my remarks on the discussion page of <a href="/wiki/Category:Khargu_Island" title="Category:Khargu Island">Category:Khargu Island</a>.--<a href="/wiki/User:Stunteltje" title="User:Stunteltje">Stunteltje</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stunteltje" title="User talk:Stunteltje"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orijentolog#c-Stunteltje-20241211123200-Kharg_or_Khargu" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:32, 11 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stunteltje-20241211123200-Kharg_or_Khargu"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stunteltje-20241211123200-Kharg_or_Khargu"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 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