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If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Judaism" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism">the discussion</a> and see a list of open tasks.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Judaism</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Judaism</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Judaism</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">Judaism articles</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Rabbi-m-2006-06-28T04:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Wimpel-2006-06-28T04:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Rabbi-m-2006-06-28T04:26:00.000Z-Wimpel&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Wimpel&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Wimpel&quot;}--><h2 id="Wimpel" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wimpel-2006-06-28T04:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wimpel-2006-06-28T04:26:00.000Z"></span>Wimpel<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wimpel-2006-06-28T04:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Jewish_life&amp;action=edit&amp;section=1" title="Edit section: Wimpel"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Rabbi-m-2006-06-28T04:26:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wimpel-2006-06-28T04:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rabbi-m-2006-06-28T04:26:00.000Z-Wimpel"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Rabbi-m-2006-06-28T04:26:00.000Z-Wimpel","timestamp":"2006-06-28T04:26:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Rabbi-m-2006-06-28T04:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Wimpel-2006-06-28T04:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Rabbi-m-2006-06-28T04:26:00.000Z-Wimpel&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Wimpel&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Wimpel&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rabbi-m-2006-06-28T04:26:00.000Z-Wimpel"></span>What is a "Wimpel"? - SF2K1 </p> <dl><dd>It's nonsense that someone put in, I have removed it now. <a href="/wiki/User:IZAK" title="User:IZAK">IZAK</a> 10:10, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC) <dl><dd>actually, its a real thing. I drafted an entry for it on my Page <a href="/wiki/User:Rabbi-m" title="User:Rabbi-m">Rabbi-m</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Jewish_life#c-Rabbi-m-2006-06-28T04:26:00.000Z-Wimpel" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:26, 28 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rabbi-m-2006-06-28T04:26:00.000Z-Wimpel"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-28T04:26:00.000Z","author":"Rabbi-m","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rabbi-m-2006-06-28T04:26:00.000Z-Wimpel","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rabbi-m-2006-06-28T04:26:00.000Z-Wimpel"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Beautiful" data-mw-thread-id="h-Beautiful"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Beautiful"></span>Beautiful<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Beautiful"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Jewish_life&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: Beautiful"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Beautiful","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>Beautiful! <a href="/wiki/User:Jfdwolff" title="User:Jfdwolff">JFW</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jfdwolff" title="User talk:Jfdwolff"><small>T@lk</small></a> 14:41, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lots_of_topics" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lots_of_topics"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lots_of_topics"></span>Lots of topics<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lots_of_topics"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Jewish_life&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section: Lots of topics"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Lots_of_topics","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>I have removed a lot of topics that have no relation to the topic. For instance, <i>tefillin</i> are actually physical objects. The <i>Amidah</i> is a set of 19 prayers found in the siddur (classic Jewish prayerbook.) <i>Halakha</i> is a collective term for all of Jewish law and tradition. A <i>rabbi</i> is a religious leader. None of these are parts of the Jewish life cycle. The Jewish life cycle is a series of rituals and events, not objects, prayers or clergy. <a href="/wiki/User:RK" title="User:RK">RK</a> 12:57, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tefillin" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tefillin"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tefillin"></span>Tefillin<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tefillin"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Jewish_life&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: Tefillin"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Tefillin","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>Even though Tefillin are physical objects, one doesn't wear them until their Bar Mitzvah. This would make them time relative - SF2K1 </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template:JewishHolidays" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:JewishHolidays"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:JewishHolidays"></span>Template:JewishHolidays<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:JewishHolidays"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Jewish_life&amp;action=edit&amp;section=5" title="Edit section: Template:JewishHolidays"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Template:JewishHolidays","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>I just noticed that we now have a <a href="/wiki/Template:JewishHolidays" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:JewishHolidays">Template:JewishHolidays</a> (excellent job!). We can now separate holidays and life-cycle events. <a href="/wiki/User:RK" title="User:RK">RK</a> 21:50, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Zeved_habat" data-mw-thread-id="h-Zeved_habat"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Zeved_habat"></span>Zeved habat<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Zeved_habat"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Jewish_life&amp;action=edit&amp;section=6" title="Edit section: Zeved habat"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Zeved_habat","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>Zeved habat page is created, and (non-red) link added to the template. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Olve" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Olve">Olve</a> 22:12, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Rename_template_to_Judaism_topics" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rename_template_to_Judaism_topics"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rename_template_to_Judaism_topics"></span>Rename template to Judaism topics<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rename_template_to_Judaism_topics"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Jewish_life&amp;action=edit&amp;section=7" title="Edit section: Rename template to Judaism topics"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Rename_template_to_Judaism_topics","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>This template has evolved beyond its name. It should be renamed (e.g. Judaism topics). <a href="/wiki/User:Jfdwolff" title="User:Jfdwolff">JFW</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jfdwolff" title="User talk:Jfdwolff"><small>T@lk</small></a> 20:10, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Jfr26-2006-06-08T19:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Talmud_study-2006-06-08T19:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Jfr26-2006-06-08T19:40:00.000Z-Talmud_study&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Talmud study&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Talmud study&quot;}--><h2 id="Talmud_study" data-mw-thread-id="h-Talmud_study-2006-06-08T19:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Talmud_study-2006-06-08T19:40:00.000Z"></span>Talmud study<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Talmud_study-2006-06-08T19:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Jewish_life&amp;action=edit&amp;section=8" title="Edit section: Talmud study"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Jfr26-2006-06-08T19:40:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Talmud_study-2006-06-08T19:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jfr26-2006-06-08T19:40:00.000Z-Talmud_study"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Jfr26-2006-06-08T19:40:00.000Z-Talmud_study","timestamp":"2006-06-08T19:40:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Jfr26-2006-06-08T19:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Talmud_study-2006-06-08T19:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Jfr26-2006-06-08T19:40:00.000Z-Talmud_study&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Talmud study&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Talmud study&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jfr26-2006-06-08T19:40:00.000Z-Talmud_study"></span>It seems a little odd that Talmud study forwards to Daf Yomi. Perhaps a mention of Daf Yomi on the Torah study page would suffice? <a href="/wiki/User:Jfr26" title="User:Jfr26">Jfr26</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Jewish_life#c-Jfr26-2006-06-08T19:40:00.000Z-Talmud_study" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:40, 8 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jfr26-2006-06-08T19:40:00.000Z-Talmud_study"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-06-08T19:40:00.000Z","author":"Jfr26","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jfr26-2006-06-08T19:40:00.000Z-Talmud_study","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jfr26-2006-06-08T19:40:00.000Z-Talmud_study"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Jon513-2006-08-16T02:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Menorah-2006-08-16T02:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Jon513-2006-08-16T02:58:00.000Z-Menorah&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Menorah&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Menorah&quot;}--><h2 id="Menorah" data-mw-thread-id="h-Menorah-2006-08-16T02:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Menorah-2006-08-16T02:58:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Menorah" class="mw-disambig" title="Menorah">Menorah</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Menorah-2006-08-16T02:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Jewish_life&amp;action=edit&amp;section=9" title="Edit section: Menorah"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Jon513-2006-08-16T02:58:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Menorah-2006-08-16T02:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jon513-2006-08-16T02:58:00.000Z-Menorah"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Jon513-2006-08-16T02:58:00.000Z-Menorah","timestamp":"2006-08-16T02:58:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Jon513-2006-08-16T02:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Menorah-2006-08-16T02:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Jon513-2006-08-16T02:58:00.000Z-Menorah&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Menorah&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Menorah&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jon513-2006-08-16T02:58:00.000Z-Menorah"></span>I have removed <a href="/wiki/Menorah" class="mw-disambig" title="Menorah">Menorah</a> since it was an item used in the temple, (not a <a href="/wiki/Chanukkiyah" class="mw-redirect" title="Chanukkiyah">Chanukkiyah</a> what we light on channucha). It is not part of modern Jewish life. It would make as much sence to put the <a href="/wiki/Urim_and_Thummim" title="Urim and Thummim">Urim and Thummim</a> or <a href="/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant" title="Ark of the Covenant">Ark of the Covenant</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Jon513" title="User:Jon513">Jon513</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Jewish_life#c-Jon513-2006-08-16T02:58:00.000Z-Menorah" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:58, 16 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jon513-2006-08-16T02:58:00.000Z-Menorah"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-16T02:58:00.000Z","author":"Jon513","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jon513-2006-08-16T02:58:00.000Z-Menorah","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jon513-2006-08-16T02:58:00.000Z-Menorah"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Jon513-2006-09-12T13:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-\&quot;get\&quot;-2006-09-12T13:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Jon513-2006-09-12T13:04:00.000Z-\&quot;get\&quot;&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;\&quot;get\&quot;&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;\&quot;get\&quot;&quot;}--><h2 id="&quot;get&quot;" data-mw-thread-id="h-&quot;get&quot;-2006-09-12T13:04:00.000Z"><span id=".22get.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-&quot;get&quot;-2006-09-12T13:04:00.000Z"></span>"get"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-&quot;get&quot;-2006-09-12T13:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Jewish_life&amp;action=edit&amp;section=10" title="Edit section: &quot;get&quot;"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Jon513-2006-09-12T13:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"get\"-2006-09-12T13:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jon513-2006-09-12T13:04:00.000Z-\"get\""]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Jon513-2006-09-12T13:04:00.000Z-\"get\"","timestamp":"2006-09-12T13:04:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Jon513-2006-09-12T13:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-\&quot;get\&quot;-2006-09-12T13:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Jon513-2006-09-12T13:04:00.000Z-\&quot;get\&quot;&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;\&quot;get\&quot;&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;\&quot;get\&quot;&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jon513-2006-09-12T13:04:00.000Z-&quot;get&quot;"></span>Why is get is quotes? perhaps italics would make more sence. <a href="/wiki/User:Jon513" title="User:Jon513">Jon513</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Jewish_life#c-Jon513-2006-09-12T13:04:00.000Z-&quot;get&quot;" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:04, 12 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jon513-2006-09-12T13:04:00.000Z-&quot;get&quot;"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-12T13:04:00.000Z","author":"Jon513","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jon513-2006-09-12T13:04:00.000Z-\"get\"","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jon513-2006-09-12T13:04:00.000Z-&quot;get&quot;"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Valley2city-2007-04-15T06:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-\&quot;Jewish_Life_Cycle\&quot;?-2007-04-15T06:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Valley2city-2007-04-15T06:00:00.000Z-\&quot;Jewish_Life_Cycle\&quot;?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;\&quot;Jewish Life Cycle\&quot;?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;\&quot;Jewish Life Cycle\&quot;?&quot;}--><h2 id="&quot;Jewish_Life_Cycle&quot;?" data-mw-thread-id="h-&quot;Jewish_Life_Cycle&quot;?-2007-04-15T06:00:00.000Z"><span id=".22Jewish_Life_Cycle.22.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-&quot;Jewish_Life_Cycle&quot;?-2007-04-15T06:00:00.000Z"></span>"Jewish Life Cycle"?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-&quot;Jewish_Life_Cycle&quot;?-2007-04-15T06:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Jewish_life&amp;action=edit&amp;section=11" title="Edit section: &quot;Jewish Life Cycle&quot;?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Valley2city-2007-04-15T06:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"Jewish_Life_Cycle\"?-2007-04-15T06:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Valley2city-2007-04-15T06:00:00.000Z-\"Jewish_Life_Cycle\"?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Valley2city-2007-04-15T06:00:00.000Z-\"Jewish_Life_Cycle\"?","timestamp":"2007-04-15T06:00:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Valley2city-2007-04-15T06:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-\&quot;Jewish_Life_Cycle\&quot;?-2007-04-15T06:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Valley2city-2007-04-15T06:00:00.000Z-\&quot;Jewish_Life_Cycle\&quot;?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;\&quot;Jewish Life Cycle\&quot;?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;\&quot;Jewish Life Cycle\&quot;?&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Valley2city-2007-04-15T06:00:00.000Z-&quot;Jewish_Life_Cycle&quot;?"></span>Should we perhaps rename this to Jewish Life Cycle? It seems, IMHO, that "Jewish life" may be too broad a term to what this template includes, namely customs and ritual objects relating to life-cyclical events. --<a href="/wiki/User:Valley2city" title="User:Valley2city"><b><span style="background:blue;font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:white;">Valley</span>2<span style="background:skyblue;font-family:Arial;color:white;">city</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Valley2city" title="User talk:Valley2city"><sup>₪‽</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Jewish_life#c-Valley2city-2007-04-15T06:00:00.000Z-&quot;Jewish_Life_Cycle&quot;?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:00, 15 April 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Valley2city-2007-04-15T06:00:00.000Z-&quot;Jewish_Life_Cycle&quot;?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-15T06:00:00.000Z","author":"Valley2city","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Valley2city-2007-04-15T06:00:00.000Z-\"Jewish_Life_Cycle\"?","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Valley2city-2007-04-15T06:00:00.000Z-&quot;Jewish_Life_Cycle&quot;?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Humus_sapiens-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Chai-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Humus_sapiens-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z-Chai&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Chai&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Chai&quot;}--><h2 id="Chai" data-mw-thread-id="h-Chai-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Chai-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z"></span>Chai<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Chai-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Jewish_life&amp;action=edit&amp;section=12" title="Edit section: Chai"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Humus_sapiens-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Chai-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Humus_sapiens-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z-Chai"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Redaktor-2007-05-21T08:29:00.000Z-Humus_sapiens-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z","timestamp":"2007-05-21T08:29:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Humus_sapiens-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Chai-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Humus_sapiens-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z-Chai&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Chai&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Chai&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Humus_sapiens-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z-Chai"></span>Don't you think the template on Jewish life should also include symbol <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Hebrew_Chai_Symbol.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Hebrew_Chai_Symbol.svg/50px-Hebrew_Chai_Symbol.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="44" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Hebrew_Chai_Symbol.svg/75px-Hebrew_Chai_Symbol.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Hebrew_Chai_Symbol.svg/100px-Hebrew_Chai_Symbol.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="687" data-file-height="600"/></a></span>? ←<a href="/wiki/User:Humus_sapiens" title="User:Humus sapiens">Humus sapiens</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Humus_sapiens" title="User talk:Humus sapiens">ну</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Humus_sapiens" title="Special:Contributions/Humus sapiens">?</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Jewish_life#c-Humus_sapiens-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z-Chai" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:30, 18 April 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Humus_sapiens-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z-Chai"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z","author":"Humus sapiens","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Humus_sapiens-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z-Chai","replies":["c-Redaktor-2007-05-21T08:29:00.000Z-Humus_sapiens-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Humus_sapiens-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z-Chai"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redaktor-2007-05-21T08:29:00.000Z-Humus_sapiens-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z"></span>No. This symbol would detract from the template, as indeed the picture of the menora does. Pictures should be relevant, not just decorative.--<a href="/wiki/User:Redaktor" title="User:Redaktor">Redaktor</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Jewish_life#c-Redaktor-2007-05-21T08:29:00.000Z-Humus_sapiens-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:29, 21 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redaktor-2007-05-21T08:29:00.000Z-Humus_sapiens-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-05-21T08:29:00.000Z","author":"Redaktor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Redaktor-2007-05-21T08:29:00.000Z-Humus_sapiens-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redaktor-2007-05-21T08:29:00.000Z-Humus_sapiens-2007-04-18T23:30:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Shalom-2008-02-10T01:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Removed_a_section-2008-02-10T01:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Shalom-2008-02-10T01:17:00.000Z-Removed_a_section&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Removed a section&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Removed a section&quot;}--><h2 id="Removed_a_section" data-mw-thread-id="h-Removed_a_section-2008-02-10T01:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Removed_a_section-2008-02-10T01:17:00.000Z"></span>Removed a section<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Removed_a_section-2008-02-10T01:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Jewish_life&amp;action=edit&amp;section=13" title="Edit section: Removed a section"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Shalom-2008-02-10T01:17:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Removed_a_section-2008-02-10T01:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Shalom-2008-02-10T01:17:00.000Z-Removed_a_section"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Shalom-2008-02-10T01:17:00.000Z-Removed_a_section","timestamp":"2008-02-10T01:17:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Shalom-2008-02-10T01:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Removed_a_section-2008-02-10T01:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Shalom-2008-02-10T01:17:00.000Z-Removed_a_section&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Removed a section&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Removed a section&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shalom-2008-02-10T01:17:00.000Z-Removed_a_section"></span>I removed the "culture" section from the template because "Diaspora" and the Holocaust are not part of the Jewish life cycle, and are not similar to any of the other sections. It's a classic case of "Which one of these sections is not like the others?" Having irrelevant or loosely relevant items detracts from the overall usefulness of the template. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Shalom&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Shalom (page does not exist)">Shalom</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shalom" title="User talk:Shalom">Hello</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Shalom" title="Special:Contributions/Shalom">Peace</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Jewish_life#c-Shalom-2008-02-10T01:17:00.000Z-Removed_a_section" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:17, 10 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shalom-2008-02-10T01:17:00.000Z-Removed_a_section"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-02-10T01:17:00.000Z","author":"Shalom","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shalom-2008-02-10T01:17:00.000Z-Removed_a_section","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shalom-2008-02-10T01:17:00.000Z-Removed_a_section"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Xyz7890-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-\&quot;Adult_bar_and_bat_mitzvah\&quot;_-_include_or_not?-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Xyz7890-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z-\&quot;Adult_bar_and_bat_mitzvah\&quot;_-_include_or_not?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;\&quot;Adult bar and bat mitzvah\&quot; - include or not?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;\&quot;Adult bar and bat mitzvah\&quot; - include or not?&quot;}--><h2 id="&quot;Adult_bar_and_bat_mitzvah&quot;_-_include_or_not?" data-mw-thread-id="h-&quot;Adult_bar_and_bat_mitzvah&quot;_-_include_or_not?-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z"><span id=".22Adult_bar_and_bat_mitzvah.22_-_include_or_not.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-&quot;Adult_bar_and_bat_mitzvah&quot;_-_include_or_not?-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z"></span>"Adult bar and bat mitzvah" - include or not?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-&quot;Adult_bar_and_bat_mitzvah&quot;_-_include_or_not?-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Jewish_life&amp;action=edit&amp;section=14" title="Edit section: &quot;Adult bar and bat mitzvah&quot; - include or not?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Xyz7890-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"Adult_bar_and_bat_mitzvah\"_-_include_or_not?-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Xyz7890-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z-\"Adult_bar_and_bat_mitzvah\"_-_include_or_not?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Debresser-2013-11-19T12:19:00.000Z-Xyz7890-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z","timestamp":"2013-11-19T12:19:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Xyz7890-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-\&quot;Adult_bar_and_bat_mitzvah\&quot;_-_include_or_not?-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Xyz7890-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z-\&quot;Adult_bar_and_bat_mitzvah\&quot;_-_include_or_not?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;\&quot;Adult bar and bat mitzvah\&quot; - include or not?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;\&quot;Adult bar and bat mitzvah\&quot; - include or not?&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xyz7890-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z-&quot;Adult_bar_and_bat_mitzvah&quot;_-_include_or_not?"></span>There has been a slight dispute over whether to include <a href="/wiki/Adult_bar_and_bat_mitzvah" title="Adult bar and bat mitzvah">Adult bar and bat mitzvah</a> on this template. Personally, I feel it belongs. It is just like a regular bar/bat mitzvah, except it has become a distinct concept of its own that is, yes, a part of Jewish life. <a href="/wiki/User:Xyz7890" title="User:Xyz7890">Xyz7890</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xyz7890" title="User talk:Xyz7890">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Jewish_life#c-Xyz7890-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z-&quot;Adult_bar_and_bat_mitzvah&quot;_-_include_or_not?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:04, 19 November 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xyz7890-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z-&quot;Adult_bar_and_bat_mitzvah&quot;_-_include_or_not?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z","author":"Xyz7890","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Xyz7890-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z-\"Adult_bar_and_bat_mitzvah\"_-_include_or_not?","replies":["c-Debresser-2013-11-19T12:19:00.000Z-Xyz7890-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xyz7890-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z-&quot;Adult_bar_and_bat_mitzvah&quot;_-_include_or_not?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Debresser-2013-11-19T12:19:00.000Z-Xyz7890-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z"></span>The discussion is not here but at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:JUDAISM#Adult_Bar_and_Bat_Mitzvah" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:JUDAISM">Wikipedia_talk:JUDAISM#Adult_Bar_and_Bat_Mitzvah</a>, and consensus is this should not be here. By the way, contrary to what Xyz7890 said in his editsummary it is not the revert that is bold, but the addition (see<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">WP:BRD</a>). <a href="/wiki/User:Debresser" title="User:Debresser">Debresser</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Debresser" title="User talk:Debresser">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Jewish_life#c-Debresser-2013-11-19T12:19:00.000Z-Xyz7890-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:19, 19 November 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Debresser-2013-11-19T12:19:00.000Z-Xyz7890-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-19T12:19:00.000Z","author":"Debresser","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Debresser-2013-11-19T12:19:00.000Z-Xyz7890-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Debresser-2013-11-19T12:19:00.000Z-Xyz7890-2013-11-19T02:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐6b7f745dd4‐lbcf6 Cached time: 20241125130429 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1, show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.024 seconds CPU time usage: 0.235 seconds Real time usage: 0.319 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 995/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 11105/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 2314/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 14/100 Expensive parser function count: 29/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 12477/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.118/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 1638017/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 237.150 1 -total 54.24% 128.632 1 Template:Talk_header 45.72% 108.427 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 32.48% 77.036 1 Template:WikiProject_Judaism 17.66% 41.878 1 Template:Pagetype 16.90% 40.070 1 Template:Yearly_archive_list 14.57% 34.561 1 Template:For_loop 9.16% 21.715 23 Template:Ifexist_not_redirect 0.81% 1.919 1 Template:Strong 0.79% 1.863 1 Template:LASTYEAR --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:929386-0!canonical and timestamp 20241125130429 and revision id 1232350522. 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