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A Kitten! A Kitten!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-LeBassRobespierre" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#LeBassRobespierre"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>LeBassRobespierre</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-LeBassRobespierre-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Terry_Kath" 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Smuckola</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-A_Cup_of_Coffee_for_Smuckola-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Chicago_XXXVI" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Chicago_XXXVI"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>Chicago XXXVI</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">11 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Chicago_XXXVI-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!_6" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_barnstar_for_you!_6"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>A barnstar for you!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!_6-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_very_tardy_response" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_very_tardy_response"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>A very tardy response</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-A_very_tardy_response-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Nintendo_64_announcement" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Nintendo_64_announcement"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>Nintendo 64 announcement</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Nintendo_64_announcement-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-irc" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#irc"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> 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class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#In_response_to_the_kitten:)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>In response to the kitten:)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-In_response_to_the_kitten:)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-You_do_what_I_do,_eh?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#You_do_what_I_do,_eh?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>You do what I do, eh?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-You_do_what_I_do,_eh?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Department_of_Competitive_Gentity" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Department_of_Competitive_Gentity"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>Department of Competitive Gentity</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Department_of_Competitive_Gentity-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Pyramid_power" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Pyramid_power"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>Pyramid power</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Pyramid_power-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Stone_of_Sisyphus" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Stone_of_Sisyphus"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span><i>Stone of Sisyphus</i></span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Stone_of_Sisyphus-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-2016" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#2016"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>2016</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-2016-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Random_assessment_question" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Random_assessment_question"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>Random assessment question</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Random_assessment_question-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Re:_The_kitten_of_DILIGENCE" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Re:_The_kitten_of_DILIGENCE"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>Re: The kitten of DILIGENCE</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Re:_The_kitten_of_DILIGENCE-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wild_Guns" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wild_Guns"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>Wild Guns</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Wild_Guns-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Ready_for_mainspace?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Ready_for_mainspace?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>Ready for mainspace?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Ready_for_mainspace?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Regarding_editor_Oranjelo100" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Regarding_editor_Oranjelo100"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>Regarding editor Oranjelo100</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Regarding_editor_Oranjelo100-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Reverts_on_Template:MOS_CPU_&amp;_Nintendo_S-SMP" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Reverts_on_Template:MOS_CPU_&amp;_Nintendo_S-SMP"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span>Reverts on Template:MOS CPU &amp; Nintendo S-SMP ‎</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Reverts_on_Template:MOS_CPU_&amp;_Nintendo_S-SMP-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-64DD_article" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#64DD_article"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>64DD article</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-64DD_article-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Robin_Williams_GA/FA?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Robin_Williams_GA/FA?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">43</span> <span>Robin Williams GA/FA?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Robin_Williams_GA/FA?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_goat_for_you!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_goat_for_you!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">44</span> <span>A goat for you!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-A_goat_for_you!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-SimTunes" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#SimTunes"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">45</span> <span>SimTunes</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-SimTunes-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-When_someone_thanks_me" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#When_someone_thanks_me"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">46</span> <span>When someone thanks me</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">10 comments</span> <ul id="toc-When_someone_thanks_me-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Four-player_robot_game" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Four-player_robot_game"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">47</span> <span>Four-player robot game</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Four-player_robot_game-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Nintendo_64_Dream_Team"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">48</span> <span>Nintendo 64 Dream Team</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-WikiCite" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#WikiCite"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">49</span> <span>WikiCite</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-WikiCite-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thank_you" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thank_you"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">50</span> <span>Thank you</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Thank_you-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-IFS_-_Depression_research" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#IFS_-_Depression_research"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">51</span> <span>IFS - Depression research</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-IFS_-_Depression_research-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!_7" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_barnstar_for_you!_7"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">52</span> <span>A barnstar for you!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!_7-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Superb!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Superb!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">53</span> <span>Superb!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">8 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Superb!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-WikiProject_Apple_Inc." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#WikiProject_Apple_Inc."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">54</span> <span>WikiProject Apple Inc.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 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vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#N64_basketball_game"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">61</span> <span>N64 basketball game</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-N64_basketball_game-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-KC_stuff" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#KC_stuff"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">62</span> <span>KC stuff</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-KC_stuff-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Another_64DD_article" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Another_64DD_article"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">63</span> <span>Another 64DD article</span> </div> </a> <span 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id="toc-&quot;Apple_Silicon_is_not_ARM&quot;?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#&quot;Apple_Silicon_is_not_ARM&quot;?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">66</span> <span>"Apple Silicon is not ARM"?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-&quot;Apple_Silicon_is_not_ARM&quot;?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-+1_for_changing_&quot;[Apple&#039;s]_personal_computer_product_line&quot;_to_&quot;Macintosh&quot;" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#+1_for_changing_&quot;[Apple&#039;s]_personal_computer_product_line&quot;_to_&quot;Macintosh&quot;"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">67</span> <span>+1 for changing "[Apple's] personal computer product line" to "Macintosh"</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-+1_for_changing_&quot;[Apple&#039;s]_personal_computer_product_line&quot;_to_&quot;Macintosh&quot;-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thanks_for_the_thanks" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thanks_for_the_thanks"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">68</span> <span>Thanks for the thanks</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Thanks_for_the_thanks-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_kitten_for_you!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_kitten_for_you!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">69</span> <span>A kitten for you!</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-A_kitten_for_you!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-re:Nintendo_Power_224_&amp;_226" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#re:Nintendo_Power_224_&amp;_226"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">70</span> <span>re:Nintendo Power 224 &amp; 226</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-re:Nintendo_Power_224_&amp;_226-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-2021_MLK_Day_of_Service" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#2021_MLK_Day_of_Service"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">71</span> <span>2021 MLK Day of Service</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-2021_MLK_Day_of_Service-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Joseph_Waeckerle" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Joseph_Waeckerle"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">72</span> <span>Joseph Waeckerle</span> 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id="toc-Salina_Stockade" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Salina_Stockade"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">78</span> <span>Salina Stockade</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Salina_Stockade-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Highway_graphics" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Highway_graphics"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">79</span> <span>Highway graphics</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Highway_graphics-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!_10" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_barnstar_for_you!_10"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">80</span> <span>A barnstar 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vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2022"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">83</span> <span><i>This Month in GLAM</i>: July 2022</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2022-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Blocking_requests_on_my_talk_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Blocking_requests_on_my_talk_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">84</span> <span>Blocking requests on my talk page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Blocking_requests_on_my_talk_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Venaco_Edit" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Venaco_Edit"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span 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class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thank_you!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thank_you!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">88</span> <span>Thank you!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Thank_you!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Taligent_company_logo.svg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Taligent_company_logo.svg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">89</span> <span>Orphaned non-free image File:Taligent company logo.svg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Taligent_company_logo.svg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Latest_(and_most_likely_final)_issue_of_the_WP:VG_newsletter" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Latest_(and_most_likely_final)_issue_of_the_WP:VG_newsletter"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">90</span> <span>Latest (and most likely final) issue of the WP:VG newsletter</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Latest_(and_most_likely_final)_issue_of_the_WP:VG_newsletter-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-&quot;why_would_you_add_this_totally_irrelevant_link&quot;?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#&quot;why_would_you_add_this_totally_irrelevant_link&quot;?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">91</span> <span>"why would you add this totally irrelevant link"?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul 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class="vector-toc-numb">98</span> <span><i>This Month in GLAM</i>: October 2023</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-This_Month_in_GLAM:_October_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-KCPT" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#KCPT"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">99</span> <span>KCPT</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-KCPT-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Attached_KML" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Attached_KML"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">100</span> <span>Attached KML</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Attached_KML-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thanks" 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class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">114</span> <span><i>This Month in GLAM</i>: August 2024</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-This_Month_in_GLAM:_August_2024-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Question_about_edit_reversion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Question_about_edit_reversion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">115</span> <span>Question about edit reversion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Question_about_edit_reversion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Online_meet_-_November_12,_2024" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Online_meet_-_November_12,_2024"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">116</span> <span>Online meet - November 12, 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page&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A funny page&quot;}--><h2 id="A_funny_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_funny_page-2018-03-18T04:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_funny_page-2018-03-18T04:00:00.000Z"></span>A funny page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_funny_page-2018-03-18T04:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Germanhexagon-2018-03-18T04:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_funny_page-2018-03-18T04:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Germanhexagon-2018-03-18T04:00:00.000Z-A_funny_page","c-Germanhexagon-2018-03-18T07:46:00.000Z-A_funny_page"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Germanhexagon-2018-03-18T07:46:00.000Z-A_funny_page","timestamp":"2018-03-18T07:46:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Germanhexagon-2018-03-18T04:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_funny_page-2018-03-18T04:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Germanhexagon-2018-03-18T04:00:00.000Z-A_funny_page&quot;,&quot;c-Germanhexagon-2018-03-18T07:46:00.000Z-A_funny_page&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A funny page&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A funny page&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Germanhexagon-2018-03-18T04:00:00.000Z-A_funny_page"></span>Was looking around the internet and found a funny site. It's an encyclopedia of every film and TV show in which characters wore overalls ... yes, the clothing overalls. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://biboverallsfilms.wordpress.com/topics/">https://biboverallsfilms.wordpress.com/topics/</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Germanhexagon" title="User:Germanhexagon">Germanhexagon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Germanhexagon" title="User talk:Germanhexagon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Germanhexagon-2018-03-18T04:00:00.000Z-A_funny_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:00, 18 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Germanhexagon-2018-03-18T04:00:00.000Z-A_funny_page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-03-18T04:00:00.000Z","author":"Germanhexagon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Germanhexagon-2018-03-18T04:00:00.000Z-A_funny_page","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Germanhexagon-2018-03-18T04:00:00.000Z-A_funny_page"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Germanhexagon-2018-03-18T07:46:00.000Z-A_funny_page"></span>I also read your last note, and I feel like ... I know what all the words mean in English, but I'm not entirely sure what it means in Wikipedia language. The template and it should go on my pages and all of the pages ?? But they already have templates on top of them. It should automatically be deleted soon ..... or yesterday ... XD maybe? <a href="/wiki/User:Germanhexagon" title="User:Germanhexagon">Germanhexagon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Germanhexagon" title="User talk:Germanhexagon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Germanhexagon-2018-03-18T07:46:00.000Z-A_funny_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:46, 18 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Germanhexagon-2018-03-18T07:46:00.000Z-A_funny_page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-03-18T07:46:00.000Z","author":"Germanhexagon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Germanhexagon-2018-03-18T07:46:00.000Z-A_funny_page","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Germanhexagon-2018-03-18T07:46:00.000Z-A_funny_page"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Barnstars_from_George_Hill" data-mw-thread-id="h-Barnstars_from_George_Hill"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Barnstars_from_George_Hill"></span>Barnstars from George Hill<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Barnstars_from_George_Hill"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Barnstars_from_George_Hill","replies":[]}}--></div> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" valign="middle"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Original_Barnstar.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Original_Barnstar.png/100px-Original_Barnstar.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="96" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Original_Barnstar.png 1.5x" data-file-width="111" data-file-height="107"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>The Original Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">I would like to congratulate and express my gratitude to Smuckola (DTM) a for his great assistance in the design and creation of the article Wikipedia George Hill Chef. I was advised to request help from wiki editors by the deleting administrator following my deleted first article. I fortunately met Smuckola (DTM) on the help Wikipedia channel . Smuckola (DTM) immediately took an interest in assisting and compiling what turned out to be a very fine article created over may hours by him. He has great understanding of the wiki process, is excellent with English expression and understands the wiki mark up to design and put together articles that wiki should be proud of.My sincere thanks George Hill - Australia </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-PartTroix-20220730204800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Interpret-20220730204800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-PartTroix-20220730204800-Interpret&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Interpret&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Interpret&quot;}--><h2 id="Interpret" data-mw-thread-id="h-Interpret-20220730204800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Interpret-20220730204800"></span>Interpret<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Interpret-20220730204800"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-PartTroix-20220730204800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Interpret-20220730204800","replies":["c-PartTroix-20220730204800-Interpret"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-PartTroix-20220730204800-Interpret","timestamp":"20220730204800"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-PartTroix-20220730204800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Interpret-20220730204800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-PartTroix-20220730204800-Interpret&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Interpret&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Interpret&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PartTroix-20220730204800-Interpret"></span>Those who disagree with you are not disruptive. If you're wrong about something hopefully it will bear out.<a href="/wiki/User:PartTroix" title="User:PartTroix">PartTroix</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PartTroix" title="User talk:PartTroix">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-PartTroix-20220730204800-Interpret" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:48, 30 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PartTroix-20220730204800-Interpret"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20220730204800","author":"PartTroix","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PartTroix-20220730204800-Interpret","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PartTroix-20220730204800-Interpret"></span> </p> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" valign="middle"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Barnstar_of_Diligence.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/Barnstar_of_Diligence.png/100px-Barnstar_of_Diligence.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="96" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Barnstar_of_Diligence.png 1.5x" data-file-width="111" data-file-height="107"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>The Barnstar of Diligence</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">There are many Barnstars that Smuckola (DTM) deserves, I also acknowledge diligence. My sincere thanks George Hill - Australia </td></tr></tbody></table> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" valign="middle"><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:CopyeditorStar7.PNG" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/CopyeditorStar7.PNG" decoding="async" width="100" height="96" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="100" data-file-height="96"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>The Copyeditor's Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">I acknowledge excellence in copyediting My sincere thanks George Hill - Australia </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-JSFarman-2013-03-14T00:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2013-03-14T00:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-JSFarman-2013-03-14T00:36:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;}--><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2013-03-14T00:36:00.000Z"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2013-03-14T00:36:00.000Z"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2013-03-14T00:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-JSFarman-2013-03-14T00:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2013-03-14T00:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-JSFarman-2013-03-14T00:36:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JSFarman-2013-03-14T00:36:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!","timestamp":"2013-03-14T00:36:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-JSFarman-2013-03-14T00:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2013-03-14T00:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-JSFarman-2013-03-14T00:36:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JSFarman-2013-03-14T00:36:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Original_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Original Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">You're a superstar. Thank you for your help! <a href="/wiki/User:JSFarman" title="User:JSFarman">JSFarman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JSFarman" title="User talk:JSFarman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-JSFarman-2013-03-14T00:36:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:36, 14 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JSFarman-2013-03-14T00:36:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-14T00:36:00.000Z","author":"JSFarman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JSFarman-2013-03-14T00:36:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JSFarman-2013-03-14T00:36:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Missionedit-2013-03-17T19:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Hooray!_You_created_your_Teahouse_profile!-2013-03-17T19:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Missionedit-2013-03-17T19:44:00.000Z-Hooray!_You_created_your_Teahouse_profile!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Hooray! You created your Teahouse profile!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Hooray! You created your Teahouse profile!&quot;}--><h2 id="Hooray!_You_created_your_Teahouse_profile!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hooray!_You_created_your_Teahouse_profile!-2013-03-17T19:44:00.000Z"><span id="Hooray.21_You_created_your_Teahouse_profile.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hooray!_You_created_your_Teahouse_profile!-2013-03-17T19:44:00.000Z"></span>Hooray! You created your Teahouse profile!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hooray!_You_created_your_Teahouse_profile!-2013-03-17T19:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Missionedit-2013-03-17T19:44:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Hooray!_You_created_your_Teahouse_profile!-2013-03-17T19:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Missionedit-2013-03-17T19:44:00.000Z-Hooray!_You_created_your_Teahouse_profile!"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Missionedit-2013-03-17T19:44:00.000Z-Hooray!_You_created_your_Teahouse_profile!","timestamp":"2013-03-17T19:44:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Missionedit-2013-03-17T19:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Hooray!_You_created_your_Teahouse_profile!-2013-03-17T19:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Missionedit-2013-03-17T19:44:00.000Z-Hooray!_You_created_your_Teahouse_profile!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Hooray! You created your Teahouse profile!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Hooray! You created your Teahouse profile!&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Missionedit-2013-03-17T19:44:00.000Z-Hooray!_You_created_your_Teahouse_profile!"></span>Congratulations! You have earned the</b> </p><p><br/> </p> <table style="color: #88888; background-color: #ffffff; border: 1px solid #3fb6ff; border-radius:10px;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:TH_Badge_D%2B.png" class="mw-file-description" title="Welcome to the Teahouse Badge"><img alt="Welcome to the Teahouse Badge" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/TH_Badge_D%2B.png/150px-TH_Badge_D%2B.png" decoding="async" width="150" height="166" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/TH_Badge_D%2B.png/225px-TH_Badge_D%2B.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/TH_Badge_D%2B.png/300px-TH_Badge_D%2B.png 2x" data-file-width="562" data-file-height="621"/></a></span> </td> <td style="width: 100%; font-size: large; padding: 3px 12px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse/Badge/Welcome" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse/Badge/Welcome">Welcome to the Teahouse Badge</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 10px; border-top: 1px solid gray;">Awarded to editors who have introduced themselves at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">Wikipedia Teahouse</a>.<br/> <p>Guest editors with this badge show initiative and a great drive to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Contributing_to_Wikipedia" title="Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia">learn how to edit Wikipedia</a>.<br/> </p> <b>Earn more badges at:</b> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse/Badge" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse/Badge"> Teahouse Badges</a></td></tr> </tbody></table> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <p>Thank you for introducing yourself and contributing to Wikipedia! ~ <a href="/wiki/User:Missionedit" title="User:Missionedit">Anastasia </a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Missionedit" title="User talk:Missionedit">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Missionedit-2013-03-17T19:44:00.000Z-Hooray!_You_created_your_Teahouse_profile!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:44, 17 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Missionedit-2013-03-17T19:44:00.000Z-Hooray!_You_created_your_Teahouse_profile!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-17T19:44:00.000Z","author":"Missionedit","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Missionedit-2013-03-17T19:44:00.000Z-Hooray!_You_created_your_Teahouse_profile!","replies":[],"displayName":"Anastasia"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Missionedit-2013-03-17T19:44:00.000Z-Hooray!_You_created_your_Teahouse_profile!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Andrewa-2013-03-28T17:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Welcome_to_WikiProject_percussion-2013-03-28T17:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Andrewa-2013-03-28T17:31:00.000Z-Welcome_to_WikiProject_percussion&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Welcome to WikiProject percussion&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Welcome to WikiProject percussion&quot;}--><h2 id="Welcome_to_WikiProject_percussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Welcome_to_WikiProject_percussion-2013-03-28T17:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Welcome_to_WikiProject_percussion-2013-03-28T17:31:00.000Z"></span>Welcome to WikiProject percussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Welcome_to_WikiProject_percussion-2013-03-28T17:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Andrewa-2013-03-28T17:31:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Welcome_to_WikiProject_percussion-2013-03-28T17:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Andrewa-2013-03-28T17:31:00.000Z-Welcome_to_WikiProject_percussion"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Andrewa-2013-03-28T17:31:00.000Z-Welcome_to_WikiProject_percussion","timestamp":"2013-03-28T17:31:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Andrewa-2013-03-28T17:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Welcome_to_WikiProject_percussion-2013-03-28T17:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Andrewa-2013-03-28T17:31:00.000Z-Welcome_to_WikiProject_percussion&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Welcome to WikiProject percussion&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Welcome to WikiProject percussion&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrewa-2013-03-28T17:31:00.000Z-Welcome_to_WikiProject_percussion"></span>Always good to welcome another drummer. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrewa" title="User:Andrewa">Andrewa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrewa" title="User talk:Andrewa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Andrewa-2013-03-28T17:31:00.000Z-Welcome_to_WikiProject_percussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:31, 28 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrewa-2013-03-28T17:31:00.000Z-Welcome_to_WikiProject_percussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-28T17:31:00.000Z","author":"Andrewa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Andrewa-2013-03-28T17:31:00.000Z-Welcome_to_WikiProject_percussion","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrewa-2013-03-28T17:31:00.000Z-Welcome_to_WikiProject_percussion"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Tweny13-2013-03-29T09:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-The_Special_BarnStar-2013-03-29T09:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Tweny13-2013-03-29T09:46:00.000Z-The_Special_BarnStar&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;The Special BarnStar&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;The Special BarnStar&quot;}--><h2 id="The_Special_BarnStar" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Special_BarnStar-2013-03-29T09:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Special_BarnStar-2013-03-29T09:46:00.000Z"></span>The Special BarnStar<span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Tweny13-2013-03-29T09:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-The_Special_BarnStar-2013-03-29T09:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Tweny13-2013-03-29T09:46:00.000Z-The_Special_BarnStar&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;The Special BarnStar&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;The Special BarnStar&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #FFA07A;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" valign="middle"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tweny13-2013-03-29T09:46:00.000Z-The_Special_BarnStar"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Special_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/Special_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Special_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/Special_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Special_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/Special_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Special_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>The Special Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;"> <ul><li>awarded to <span style="color:white"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a></b></span> as a gesture of very special appreciation for his unrecognized work.</li></ul> <p>Even in the complete dark you will always know who you are, and we will all ways recognize it for you. May your star shine bright, true and through, no matter the way of day, no matter the manner of night. You will always be you, and special. </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Tweny13" title="User:Tweny13">Tweny13</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tweny13" title="User talk:Tweny13">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Tweny13-2013-03-29T09:46:00.000Z-The_Special_BarnStar" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:46, 29 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tweny13-2013-03-29T09:46:00.000Z-The_Special_BarnStar"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-29T09:46:00.000Z","author":"Tweny13","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tweny13-2013-03-29T09:46:00.000Z-The_Special_BarnStar","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tweny13-2013-03-29T09:46:00.000Z-The_Special_BarnStar"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Wilhelmina_Will-2013-03-31T22:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Happy_Easter!!!-2013-03-31T22:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Wilhelmina_Will-2013-03-31T22:48:00.000Z-Happy_Easter!!!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Happy Easter!!!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Happy Easter!!!&quot;}--><h2 id="Happy_Easter!!!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Happy_Easter!!!-2013-03-31T22:48:00.000Z"><span id="Happy_Easter.21.21.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Happy_Easter!!!-2013-03-31T22:48:00.000Z"></span>Happy Easter!!!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Happy_Easter!!!-2013-03-31T22:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Wilhelmina_Will-2013-03-31T22:48:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Happy_Easter!!!-2013-03-31T22:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Wilhelmina_Will-2013-03-31T22:48:00.000Z-Happy_Easter!!!"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Wilhelmina_Will-2013-03-31T22:48:00.000Z-Happy_Easter!!!","timestamp":"2013-03-31T22:48:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Wilhelmina_Will-2013-03-31T22:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Happy_Easter!!!-2013-03-31T22:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Wilhelmina_Will-2013-03-31T22:48:00.000Z-Happy_Easter!!!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Happy Easter!!!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Happy Easter!!!&quot;}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wilhelmina_Will-2013-03-31T22:48:00.000Z-Happy_Easter!!!"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Easter_eggs_-_straw_decoration.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/Easter_eggs_-_straw_decoration.jpg/200px-Easter_eggs_-_straw_decoration.jpg" decoding="async" width="200" height="150" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/Easter_eggs_-_straw_decoration.jpg/300px-Easter_eggs_-_straw_decoration.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/Easter_eggs_-_straw_decoration.jpg/400px-Easter_eggs_-_straw_decoration.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2048" data-file-height="1536"/></a><figcaption>Happy Easter!</figcaption></figure> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Wilhelmina_Will" title="User:Wilhelmina Will">So a print encyclopedia, a strawberry shortcake, and a sycamore walk into a bar - wait, have you heard this one?</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wilhelmina_Will" title="User talk:Wilhelmina Will">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Wilhelmina_Will-2013-03-31T22:48:00.000Z-Happy_Easter!!!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:48, 31 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wilhelmina_Will-2013-03-31T22:48:00.000Z-Happy_Easter!!!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-31T22:48:00.000Z","author":"Wilhelmina Will","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wilhelmina_Will-2013-03-31T22:48:00.000Z-Happy_Easter!!!","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wilhelmina_Will-2013-03-31T22:48:00.000Z-Happy_Easter!!!"></span> </p><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-GWFrog-2013-04-12T16:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-THANX!_!_!-2013-04-12T16:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-GWFrog-2013-04-12T16:35:00.000Z-THANX!_!_!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;THANX!\u00a0!\u00a0!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;THANX! ! !&quot;}--><h2 id="THANX!_!_!" data-mw-thread-id="h-THANX!_!_!-2013-04-12T16:35:00.000Z"><span id="THANX.21_.21_.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-THANX!_!_!-2013-04-12T16:35:00.000Z"></span>THANX! ! !<span data-mw-comment-end="h-THANX!_!_!-2013-04-12T16:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-GWFrog-2013-04-12T16:35:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-THANX!_!_!-2013-04-12T16:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-GWFrog-2013-04-12T16:35:00.000Z-THANX!_!_!"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-GWFrog-2013-04-12T16:35:00.000Z-THANX!_!_!","timestamp":"2013-04-12T16:35:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-GWFrog-2013-04-12T16:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-THANX!_!_!-2013-04-12T16:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-GWFrog-2013-04-12T16:35:00.000Z-THANX!_!_!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;THANX!\u00a0!\u00a0!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;THANX! ! !&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GWFrog-2013-04-12T16:35:00.000Z-THANX!_!_!"></span>Thanx muchly for the barnstar. I do quite a bit on drum corps &amp; will do more as I get to it... <a href="/wiki/User:GWFrog" title="User:GWFrog">GWFrog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GWFrog" title="User talk:GWFrog">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-GWFrog-2013-04-12T16:35:00.000Z-THANX!_!_!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:35, 12 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GWFrog-2013-04-12T16:35:00.000Z-THANX!_!_!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-12T16:35:00.000Z","author":"GWFrog","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GWFrog-2013-04-12T16:35:00.000Z-THANX!_!_!","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GWFrog-2013-04-12T16:35:00.000Z-THANX!_!_!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-122.62.226.243-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-More_Thanks-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-122.62.226.243-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z-More_Thanks&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;More Thanks&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;More Thanks&quot;}--><h2 id="More_Thanks" data-mw-thread-id="h-More_Thanks-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-More_Thanks-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z"></span>More Thanks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-More_Thanks-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-122.62.226.243-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-More_Thanks-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-122.62.226.243-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z-More_Thanks"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2013-04-29T08:20:00.000Z-122.62.226.243-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z","timestamp":"2013-04-29T08:20:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-122.62.226.243-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-More_Thanks-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-122.62.226.243-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z-More_Thanks&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;More Thanks&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;More Thanks&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-122.62.226.243-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z-More_Thanks"></span>A big Tumeke for the tidy of the Maori culture article. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/122.62.226.243" title="Special:Contributions/122.62.226.243">122.62.226.243</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:122.62.226.243" title="User talk:122.62.226.243">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-122.62.226.243-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z-More_Thanks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:07, 23 April 2013 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-122.62.226.243-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z-More_Thanks"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z","author":"122.62.226.243","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-122.62.226.243-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z-More_Thanks","replies":["c-Smuckola-2013-04-29T08:20:00.000Z-122.62.226.243-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-122.62.226.243-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z-More_Thanks"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2013-04-29T08:20:00.000Z-122.62.226.243-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z"></span>I am most honored to be acknowledged for that. I want to learn about all of the world's tribes. I learned a lot in this process, and yet I know very little compared to your own people. It's pretty weird that the articles about a people would misspell their name all throughout, even inside of the same sentence as a correctly spelled version, but I tried to fix it in all related articles. Thank you very much. Please do keep in touch if I can do anything else.<a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2013-04-29T08:20:00.000Z-122.62.226.243-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:20, 29 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2013-04-29T08:20:00.000Z-122.62.226.243-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-29T08:20:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2013-04-29T08:20:00.000Z-122.62.226.243-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2013-04-29T08:20:00.000Z-122.62.226.243-2013-04-23T01:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-JSFarman-2013-06-01T20:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-2013-06-01T20:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-JSFarman-2013-06-01T20:24:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_2&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you! 2&quot;}--><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-2013-06-01T20:24:00.000Z"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-2013-06-01T20:24:00.000Z"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-2013-06-01T20:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-JSFarman-2013-06-01T20:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-2013-06-01T20:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-JSFarman-2013-06-01T20:24:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JSFarman-2013-06-01T20:24:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_2","timestamp":"2013-06-01T20:24:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-JSFarman-2013-06-01T20:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-2013-06-01T20:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-JSFarman-2013-06-01T20:24:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_2&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you! 2&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JSFarman-2013-06-01T20:24:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Editors_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Editors_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Editors_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Editors_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Editors_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Editors_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Editors_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Editor's Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">You're a superstar! <a href="/wiki/User:JSFarman" title="User:JSFarman">JSFarman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JSFarman" title="User talk:JSFarman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-JSFarman-2013-06-01T20:24:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:24, 1 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JSFarman-2013-06-01T20:24:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-01T20:24:00.000Z","author":"JSFarman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JSFarman-2013-06-01T20:24:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_2","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JSFarman-2013-06-01T20:24:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sonicdrewdriver-2013-06-15T19:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_barnstar_for_you!_3-2013-06-15T19:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sonicdrewdriver-2013-06-15T19:33:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_3&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you! 3&quot;}--><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!_3" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_3-2013-06-15T19:33:00.000Z"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21_3"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_3-2013-06-15T19:33:00.000Z"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_3-2013-06-15T19:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sonicdrewdriver-2013-06-15T19:33:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_barnstar_for_you!_3-2013-06-15T19:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sonicdrewdriver-2013-06-15T19:33:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_3"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Sonicdrewdriver-2013-06-15T19:33:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_3","timestamp":"2013-06-15T19:33:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sonicdrewdriver-2013-06-15T19:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_barnstar_for_you!_3-2013-06-15T19:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sonicdrewdriver-2013-06-15T19:33:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_3&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you! 3&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sonicdrewdriver-2013-06-15T19:33:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_3"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png/100px-Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png/150px-Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png/200px-Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Barnstar of Diligence</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Thank you for your work at <a href="/wiki/IOS_7" title="IOS 7">iOS 7</a>, and for proving that I wasn't alone in the fight... <span style="border-bottom:1px solid #09F"> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sonicdrewdriver&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sonicdrewdriver (page does not exist)">drewmunn</a> <span style="border-left:1px solid #09F; border-top:1px solid #09F; border-bottom:1px solid #FFF"> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sonicdrewdriver&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Sonicdrewdriver (page does not exist)">talk</a> </span></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Sonicdrewdriver-2013-06-15T19:33:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:33, 15 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sonicdrewdriver-2013-06-15T19:33:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_3"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-15T19:33:00.000Z","author":"Sonicdrewdriver","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sonicdrewdriver-2013-06-15T19:33:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_3","replies":[],"displayName":"drewmunn"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sonicdrewdriver-2013-06-15T19:33:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_3"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sfan00_IMG-2013-06-20T00:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Vocoding\/Voce_FX_example_ideas-2013-06-20T00:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sfan00_IMG-2013-06-20T00:08:00.000Z-Vocoding\/Voce_FX_example_ideas&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Vocoding\/Voce FX example ideas&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Vocoding\/Voce FX example ideas&quot;}--><h2 id="Vocoding/Voce_FX_example_ideas" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vocoding/Voce_FX_example_ideas-2013-06-20T00:08:00.000Z"><span id="Vocoding.2FVoce_FX_example_ideas"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vocoding/Voce_FX_example_ideas-2013-06-20T00:08:00.000Z"></span>Vocoding/Voce FX example ideas<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vocoding/Voce_FX_example_ideas-2013-06-20T00:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sfan00_IMG-2013-06-20T00:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Vocoding\/Voce_FX_example_ideas-2013-06-20T00:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sfan00_IMG-2013-06-20T00:08:00.000Z-Vocoding\/Voce_FX_example_ideas"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Sfan00_IMG-2013-06-20T00:08:00.000Z-Vocoding\/Voce_FX_example_ideas","timestamp":"2013-06-20T00:08:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sfan00_IMG-2013-06-20T00:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Vocoding\/Voce_FX_example_ideas-2013-06-20T00:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sfan00_IMG-2013-06-20T00:08:00.000Z-Vocoding\/Voce_FX_example_ideas&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Vocoding\/Voce FX example ideas&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Vocoding\/Voce FX example ideas&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sfan00_IMG-2013-06-20T00:08:00.000Z-Vocoding/Voce_FX_example_ideas"></span>Some thoughts post IRC: </p><p>1. Early Speech Systems " Please &lt;pause> Adjust &lt;pause>Dial &lt;pause> One One Two Four, Operator </p><p>2. Vocoded Robot "This is the voice of a Wikipedia account which is not human! I edit by your instructions operator!" (think Cylon/ Davison Era Cyberman) </p><p>3. Formicadae "This is the voice of Primary One, We think that you should be hearing this..." </p><p>Arguably this has a LOT of buzz in it as insects would speak with their wings and a 'reed' like mouth motion. Vowel sounds are extended, and the inflexions present in speech may be slightly off. </p><p>Some insect speech would be slurred, so Primary One might to a casual observer sound slightly drunk, Also To get really good insect speech, you might need to do some more research as some can only 'sing' in a certain range. My intended example in this is probably a 'female' insect in the </p><p>4. 50's OTR Alien - Technically the effect here is that of an echo chamber and unusal intonation. Male OTR aliens seem to be deep voiced.. Male: " We are the gate-keepers, You as children have thought as inoccents, but time it has come for you to in maturity put aside that you as children shall hold in inoccence.." </p><p><br/> 5. OTR Fairie/Elf. Not sure about female aliens/faries but a sample line might read Female:" I am Primary of Three, I am of the trans-dimensional, and you are a welcome visitor to our viel on reality. </p><p>Another suggestions for source material would be Ariel's lines in The Tempest or Titania's in a Midsummer's Night Dream.. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Sfan00_IMG" title="User:Sfan00 IMG">Sfan00 IMG</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sfan00_IMG" title="User talk:Sfan00 IMG">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Sfan00_IMG-2013-06-20T00:08:00.000Z-Vocoding/Voce_FX_example_ideas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:08, 20 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sfan00_IMG-2013-06-20T00:08:00.000Z-Vocoding/Voce_FX_example_ideas"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-20T00:08:00.000Z","author":"Sfan00 IMG","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sfan00_IMG-2013-06-20T00:08:00.000Z-Vocoding\/Voce_FX_example_ideas","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sfan00_IMG-2013-06-20T00:08:00.000Z-Vocoding/Voce_FX_example_ideas"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Carliitaeliza-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Re_:Wikilove-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Carliitaeliza-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z-Re_:Wikilove&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Re :Wikilove&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Re :Wikilove&quot;}--><h2 id="Re_:Wikilove" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re_:Wikilove-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re_:Wikilove-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z"></span>Re :Wikilove<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re_:Wikilove-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Carliitaeliza-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Re_:Wikilove-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Carliitaeliza-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z-Re_:Wikilove"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2014-01-24T21:51:00.000Z-Carliitaeliza-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z","timestamp":"2014-01-24T21:51:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Carliitaeliza-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Re_:Wikilove-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Carliitaeliza-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z-Re_:Wikilove&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Re :Wikilove&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Re :Wikilove&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carliitaeliza-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z-Re_:Wikilove"></span>Thanks for the kitten,we named him kitty. everyone should know. EVERYONE! HEEEEY, did you hear me? everyone, especially someone who really cares for you. otherwise you could wish your name was earl. Remember Hitler. Facial hair is DYNOMITEI will try to translate the page of your request on IRC.--<a href="/wiki/User:Carliitaeliza" title="User:Carliitaeliza"><span style="color:#FF3399;background:#00FFFF">Carliitaeliza</span></a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carliitaeliza" title="User talk:Carliitaeliza"><span style="color:#72A0C1">TALK</span></a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Carliitaeliza-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z-Re_:Wikilove" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:28, 26 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carliitaeliza-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z-Re_:Wikilove"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z","author":"Carliitaeliza","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Carliitaeliza-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z-Re_:Wikilove","replies":["c-Smuckola-2014-01-24T21:51:00.000Z-Carliitaeliza-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carliitaeliza-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z-Re_:Wikilove"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2014-01-24T21:51:00.000Z-Carliitaeliza-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z"></span>Carly, you should know that I <i>always</i> remember Hitler! And you as well! How could I forget either one?! So memorable. And yes, keep the hair <b>out of our faces</b>!!!! It's not safe! DANGER, WILL ROBINSON! The planet needs you, Carly. Stay pure. — <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2014-01-24T21:51:00.000Z-Carliitaeliza-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:51, 24 January 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2014-01-24T21:51:00.000Z-Carliitaeliza-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-24T21:51:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Smuckola-2014-01-24T21:51:00.000Z-Carliitaeliza-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2014-01-24T21:51:00.000Z-Carliitaeliza-2013-06-26T16:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Dobbyelf62-2013-07-20T17:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_barnstar_for_you!_4-2013-07-20T17:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Dobbyelf62-2013-07-20T17:23:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_4&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you! 4&quot;}--><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!_4" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_4-2013-07-20T17:23:00.000Z"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21_4"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_4-2013-07-20T17:23:00.000Z"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_4-2013-07-20T17:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Dobbyelf62-2013-07-20T17:23:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_barnstar_for_you!_4-2013-07-20T17:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dobbyelf62-2013-07-20T17:23:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_4"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Dobbyelf62-2013-07-20T17:23:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_4","timestamp":"2013-07-20T17:23:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Dobbyelf62-2013-07-20T17:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_barnstar_for_you!_4-2013-07-20T17:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Dobbyelf62-2013-07-20T17:23:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_4&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you! 4&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dobbyelf62-2013-07-20T17:23:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_4"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar_Hires.gif" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar_Hires.gif/100px-Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar_Hires.gif" decoding="async" width="100" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar_Hires.gif/150px-Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar_Hires.gif 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar_Hires.gif/200px-Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar_Hires.gif 2x" data-file-width="240" data-file-height="240"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Tireless Contributor Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Thanks for your edits for all of your edits for the Chicago articles, especially your edits on Chicago XXXII. I am willing to help you get the article to B class. Rock on! <a href="/wiki/User:Dobbyelf62" title="User:Dobbyelf62">Dobbyelf62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dobbyelf62" title="User talk:Dobbyelf62">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Dobbyelf62-2013-07-20T17:23:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:23, 20 July 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dobbyelf62-2013-07-20T17:23:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_4"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-20T17:23:00.000Z","author":"Dobbyelf62","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dobbyelf62-2013-07-20T17:23:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_4","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dobbyelf62-2013-07-20T17:23:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_4"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Look_a_little_closer_before_you_template,_please.-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z-Look_a_little_closer_before_you_template,_please.&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Look a little closer before you template, please.&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Look a little closer before you template, please.&quot;}--><h2 id="Look_a_little_closer_before_you_template,_please." data-mw-thread-id="h-Look_a_little_closer_before_you_template,_please.-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z"><span id="Look_a_little_closer_before_you_template.2C_please."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Look_a_little_closer_before_you_template,_please.-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z"></span>Look a little closer before you template, please.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Look_a_little_closer_before_you_template,_please.-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Look_a_little_closer_before_you_template,_please.-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z-Look_a_little_closer_before_you_template,_please."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2014-02-27T03:04:00.000Z-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:59:00.000Z","timestamp":"2014-02-27T03:04:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Look_a_little_closer_before_you_template,_please.-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z-Look_a_little_closer_before_you_template,_please.&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Look a little closer before you template, please.&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Look a little closer before you template, please.&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z-Look_a_little_closer_before_you_template,_please."></span>Hi. Wanna explain how <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gary_Busey&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=597316377">this edit</a> was vandalism warranting a template? I assume it was just a mistake, but, maybe be a little more caution about templating the regulars. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Grayfell" title="User:Grayfell">Grayfell</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grayfell" title="User talk:Grayfell">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z-Look_a_little_closer_before_you_template,_please." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:49, 27 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z-Look_a_little_closer_before_you_template,_please."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z","author":"Grayfell","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z-Look_a_little_closer_before_you_template,_please.","replies":["c-Smuckola-2014-02-27T02:52:00.000Z-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z-Look_a_little_closer_before_you_template,_please."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2014-02-27T02:52:00.000Z-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z"></span>Hey there bro, we are beta testing a new counter-vandalism GUI and I misinterpreted its layout, thinking I was undoing the vandalism that you had actually already just undone. It's pretty rough. Sorry about that! I'm just glad that the mighty Busey is strong enough to take it. ^_^ — <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2014-02-27T02:52:00.000Z-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:52, 27 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2014-02-27T02:52:00.000Z-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-27T02:52:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2014-02-27T02:52:00.000Z-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:59:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-02-27T02:52:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2014-02-27T02:52:00.000Z-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:49:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:59:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-02-27T02:52:00.000Z"></span>No prob. That's a noble task. It was inevitable that I get templated eventually, so I guess if it's for a good cause I'll just have to soldier on somehow. <i>Of course</i> it would have to be Busey. <a href="/wiki/User:Grayfell" title="User:Grayfell">Grayfell</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grayfell" title="User talk:Grayfell">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:59:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-02-27T02:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:59, 27 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:59:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-02-27T02:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-27T02:59:00.000Z","author":"Grayfell","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:59:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-02-27T02:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Smuckola-2014-02-27T03:04:00.000Z-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:59:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:59:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-02-27T02:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2014-02-27T03:04:00.000Z-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:59:00.000Z"></span>Yeah. Yeah I hear that. It only makes sense. I've seen what he did to that kid on <i>I'm with Busey</i>. We all must answer the wild call of the Busey, when he tolleth, or suffer an unfathomably loving wrath. — <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2014-02-27T03:04:00.000Z-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:04, 27 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2014-02-27T03:04:00.000Z-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-02-27T03:04:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Smuckola-2014-02-27T03:04:00.000Z-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2014-02-27T03:04:00.000Z-Grayfell-2014-02-27T02:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-JSFarman-2014-04-07T02:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!-2014-04-07T02:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-JSFarman-2014-04-07T02:50:00.000Z-A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A Kitten! A Kitten! A Kitten!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A Kitten! A Kitten! A Kitten!&quot;}--><h2 id="A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!-2014-04-07T02:50:00.000Z"><span id="A_Kitten.21_A_Kitten.21_A_Kitten.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!-2014-04-07T02:50:00.000Z"></span>A Kitten! A Kitten! A Kitten!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!-2014-04-07T02:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-JSFarman-2014-04-07T02:50:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!-2014-04-07T02:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-JSFarman-2014-04-07T02:50:00.000Z-A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JSFarman-2014-04-07T02:50:00.000Z-A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!","timestamp":"2014-04-07T02:50:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-JSFarman-2014-04-07T02:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!-2014-04-07T02:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-JSFarman-2014-04-07T02:50:00.000Z-A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A Kitten! A Kitten! A Kitten!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A Kitten! A Kitten! A Kitten!&quot;}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JSFarman-2014-04-07T02:50:00.000Z-A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Young_cats.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Young_cats.jpg/150px-Young_cats.jpg" decoding="async" width="150" height="113" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Young_cats.jpg/225px-Young_cats.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Young_cats.jpg/300px-Young_cats.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2272" data-file-height="1704"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Thanks for hitting me with the cheer exactly when I needed it. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:JSFarman" title="User:JSFarman">JSFarman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JSFarman" title="User talk:JSFarman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-JSFarman-2014-04-07T02:50:00.000Z-A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:50, 7 April 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JSFarman-2014-04-07T02:50:00.000Z-A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-04-07T02:50:00.000Z","author":"JSFarman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JSFarman-2014-04-07T02:50:00.000Z-A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JSFarman-2014-04-07T02:50:00.000Z-A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!_A_Kitten!"></span> <br style="clear: both;"/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z-LeBassRobespierre&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;LeBassRobespierre&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;LeBassRobespierre&quot;}--><h2 id="LeBassRobespierre" data-mw-thread-id="h-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z"></span>LeBassRobespierre<span data-mw-comment-end="h-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z-LeBassRobespierre"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2014-04-10T00:22:00.000Z-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z","timestamp":"2014-04-10T00:22:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z-LeBassRobespierre&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;LeBassRobespierre&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;LeBassRobespierre&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z-LeBassRobespierre"></span>Smuckola — It has taken me some time to find how to get to this page, and I hope I'm in the right place and it is OK to post here this message: I appreciate your thanks for my minimal contribution of adding a reference to Phineas Gage. I'm a newcomer to Wikipedia editing but not to computer as well as old fashioned editing. I have done some work this past few days on Wikipedia to a couple of entries that needed essential info that was missing, namely to the entries on Deep Brain Stimulation, Psychosurgery, etc., as I have interests in various subjects including history and neuroscience. Anyway thanks to you for the unexpected welcoming message of thanks to a new comer! <a href="/wiki/User:LeBassRobespierre" title="User:LeBassRobespierre">LeBassRobespierre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LeBassRobespierre" title="User talk:LeBassRobespierre">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z-LeBassRobespierre" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:18, 9 April 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z-LeBassRobespierre"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z","author":"LeBassRobespierre","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z-LeBassRobespierre","replies":["c-Smuckola-2014-04-10T00:22:00.000Z-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z-LeBassRobespierre"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2014-04-10T00:22:00.000Z-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z"></span>That's all good. One glance at the revision history of <a href="/wiki/Phineas_Gage" title="Phineas Gage">Phineas Gage</a> or the Talk page, will show you what a social disaster it has been. There's been a huge amount of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:3RR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:3RR">WP:3RR</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OWNERSHIP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OWNERSHIP">WP:OWNERSHIP</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ICANTHEARYOU" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ICANTHEARYOU">WP:ICANTHEARYOU</a> there, and it's just deplorable. So good luck there, and don't feel bad if the trolls bite. Just keep trying, and discuss things in the Talk page, and talk with the people who've come in to mediate.  :-/ Or don't let their mental problems get you down, and move on to what does work. Please let me know if I can be of any assistance. You can email me or whatever, as is stated in my signature here! — <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2014-04-10T00:22:00.000Z-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:22, 10 April 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2014-04-10T00:22:00.000Z-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-04-10T00:22:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2014-04-10T00:22:00.000Z-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2014-04-10T00:22:00.000Z-LeBassRobespierre-2014-04-09T21:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-JSFarman-2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha-2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-JSFarman-2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z-Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha&quot;}--><h2 id="Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha-2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha-2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z"></span>Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha-2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-JSFarman-2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha-2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-JSFarman-2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z-Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2014-06-05T00:33:00.000Z-JSFarman-2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z","timestamp":"2014-06-05T00:33:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-JSFarman-2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha-2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-JSFarman-2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z-Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JSFarman-2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z-Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha"></span>Ha ha ha ha ha. Love, Julie <a href="/wiki/User:JSFarman" title="User:JSFarman">JSFarman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JSFarman" title="User talk:JSFarman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-JSFarman-2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z-Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:31, 4 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JSFarman-2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z-Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z","author":"JSFarman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JSFarman-2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z-Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha","replies":["c-Smuckola-2014-06-05T00:33:00.000Z-JSFarman-2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JSFarman-2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z-Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha_Ha"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2014-06-05T00:33:00.000Z-JSFarman-2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:JSFarman" title="User:JSFarman">JSFarman</a>:</span> Ho ho ho hee hee hee ha ha ha. &lt;3 — <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2014-06-05T00:33:00.000Z-JSFarman-2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:33, 5 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2014-06-05T00:33:00.000Z-JSFarman-2014-06-04T23:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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Kath&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Terry Kath&quot;}--><h2 id="Terry_Kath" data-mw-thread-id="h-Terry_Kath-2014-06-06T18:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Terry_Kath-2014-06-06T18:26:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Terry_Kath" title="Terry Kath">Terry Kath</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Terry_Kath-2014-06-06T18:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T18:26:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Terry_Kath-2014-06-06T18:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T18:26:00.000Z-Terry_Kath","c-Ritchie333-2014-06-12T13:04:00.000Z-Terry_Kath"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ritchie333-2014-06-15T09:04:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-06-13T21:01:00.000Z","timestamp":"2014-06-15T09:04:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__7__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T18:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Terry_Kath-2014-06-06T18:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T18:26:00.000Z-Terry_Kath&quot;,&quot;c-Ritchie333-2014-06-12T13:04:00.000Z-Terry_Kath&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Terry Kath&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Terry Kath&quot;}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T18:26:00.000Z-Terry_Kath"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256386598">.mw-parser-output .cot-header-mainspace{background:#F0F2F5;color:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cot-header-other{background:#CCFFCC;color:inherit}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cot-header-mainspace{background:#14181F;color:inherit}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night 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Don't think we've crossed paths before but I would really like to try and improve this to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GA">good article</a> status if I possibly can. See my recent note on <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dr._Blofeld" title="User talk:Dr. Blofeld">User talk:Dr. Blofeld</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Ritchie333" title="User:Ritchie333"><span style="color:#7F007F;"><b>Ritchie333</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ritchie333" title="User talk:Ritchie333"><sup style="color:#7F007F;">(talk)</sup></a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ritchie333" title="Special:Contributions/Ritchie333"><sup style="color:#7F007F;">(cont)</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T18:26:00.000Z-Terry_Kath" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:26, 6 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T18:26:00.000Z-Terry_Kath"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-06-06T18:26:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T18:26:00.000Z-Terry_Kath","replies":["c-Smuckola-2014-06-06T20:39:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T18:26:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T18:26:00.000Z-Terry_Kath"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2014-06-06T20:39:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T18:26:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Ritchie333" title="User:Ritchie333">Ritchie333</a>:</span> Ritchie, you are blowing my mind today, brother. What you've done today is truly outstanding. I have done the equivalent myself on several Chicago articles. I got started and initially met the band by writing <a href="/wiki/Walfredo_Reyes,_Jr." class="mw-redirect" title="Walfredo Reyes, Jr.">Walfredo Reyes, Jr.</a>, and explosively rewriting <a href="/wiki/Tris_Imboden" title="Tris Imboden">Tris Imboden</a>. The guys were fanatically enthusiastic about getting a completely comprehensive discography (yeah right, I bet they can't even remember all the stuff they've played on), so I threw in bonus timeline graphs. lol. Once Wikipedia came out with the thank button, I researched years of history to identify whoever had introduced that incredibly awesome timeline graph on <a href="/wiki/Chicago_(band)" title="Chicago (band)">Chicago (band)</a>. I completely rewrote <a href="/wiki/Chicago_XXXII:_Stone_of_Sisyphus" title="Chicago XXXII: Stone of Sisyphus">Chicago XXXII: Stone of Sisyphus</a>, expanding it by about two thirds based on some books that I bought just for the article! And I had it all proofread by my homie, Tris. And I wrote the whole section about the history of the band's logo and graphics.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>This band got me to actually read books again! I bought Danny's book. I know how AGGRESSIVELY hard it is to do all this multi-sourced synthesis. It is brain draining. I imagine that you already did an extensive series of drafts before publishing it, or else you're just an expert. Plus, the stuff Danny wrote about Terry is about as heavy as anything I can handle. :( I did a lot of it around memorial day. I had removed a lot of the alleged quotes of Terry's last words fromaround Wikipedia, because they had been done in such a tasteless, cheap, tabloid, uncited, almost mocking fashion. There was even an article about famous last words, and there's probably junk on wikiquotes. But you did it right, in terms of the essence of demonstrating the notable story. I think the only way to do better would be to get that California newspaper article that is cited at timwood.com, (I wrote to Tim but he said he's been too busy to contribute, and I think he's kind of burned out on Chicago) which I believe contains quotes from the attending police officers. And that may allow one to glean a few more words, but only if it's done in a distinguished and tasteful and notably requisite way. And maybe to quote the guys on how they emphatically said that he was not suicidal and that it was ruled as a drug influenced accident. If one had to magically choose, it could be a superior use of time to find additional third-party quotes and impressions about the legacy and influence of Terry upon others. That might not be so much someone citing Terry specifically but rather the early guitar and vocals of Chicago. I don't know, just a thought.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>it is a privilege to collaborate, and I would probably put any more substantial thoughts on the articles own talk page. Thank you. — <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2014-06-06T20:39:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T18:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:39, 6 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2014-06-06T20:39:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T18:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-06-06T20:39:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2014-06-06T20:39:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T18:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T21:05:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-06-06T20:39:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2014-06-06T20:39:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T18:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T21:05:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-06-06T20:39:00.000Z"></span>You sound like more of an expert than I am. Basically, to cut a long story short, I certainly remember the 80s Chicago, but then about five years ago somebody played <a href="/wiki/25_or_6_to_4" title="25 or 6 to 4">25 or 6 to 4</a> on the radio and explained who Kath was and that it really was the same band. So I went and bought the first two albums and couldn't believe the playing on it - I knew he was an early member but I thought he was some anonymous rhythm player, not this incredible guitarist. Anyway, I only really know that stuff and so Kath's article is probably the only one I can do justice. I need to add some biographical notes from 71 - 78, and also document how the significance of his contributions changed over the years. The death was an accident - end of. Okay, it's what all the rock trivia books talk about but I think I can invoke <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLP">WP:BLP</a> to say it is not kind to the surviving members of the band to remember him that way, instead of his musical contributions. <a href="/wiki/User:Ritchie333" title="User:Ritchie333"><span style="color:#7F007F;"><b>Ritchie333</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ritchie333" title="User talk:Ritchie333"><sup style="color:#7F007F;">(talk)</sup></a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ritchie333" title="Special:Contributions/Ritchie333"><sup style="color:#7F007F;">(cont)</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T21:05:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-06-06T20:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:05, 6 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T21:05:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-06-06T20:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-06-06T21:05:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T21:05:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-06-06T20:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Smuckola-2014-06-06T21:54:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T21:05:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T21:05:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-06-06T20:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2014-06-06T21:54:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T21:05:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Ritchie333" title="User:Ritchie333">Ritchie333</a>:</span> Yeah that's what I'm saying, it's major major tabloid/sensational/intrigue material, sometimes even regardless of actually published facts.  :( Likewise, in all of the band's articles, I have copyedited out all mentions of who was "fired" because the unpublished contractual terms of employment are nobody's business, and "replaced" because you can replace a lineup but you can't replace a person. You just described exactly my impression of Terry, after having been raised on Chicago music past and present. As a kid, I had no idea who this scruffy anonymous dude was until a year ago when we started researching the band in preparation for their local concert. When Terry had died, my mom had been pregnant with me and thus totally distracted, so this research made us actually grieve about it. Now I'm grieving the "loss" of the mighty Champlin! I'll put more info in Terry's talk page. — <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2014-06-06T21:54:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T21:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:54, 6 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2014-06-06T21:54:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T21:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-06-06T21:54:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Smuckola-2014-06-06T21:54:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T21:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2014-06-06T21:54:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2014-06-06T21:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ritchie333-2014-06-12T13:04:00.000Z-Terry_Kath"></span>I see the IP who's been adding unsourced stuff to this article is back. I've given them a pretty straightforward explanation of why their edits are problematic, which will hopefully be the end of it. Let's hope it doesn't take an indef block to get them talking.... <a href="/wiki/User:Ritchie333" title="User:Ritchie333"><span style="color:#7F007F;"><b>Ritchie333</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ritchie333" title="User talk:Ritchie333"><sup style="color:#7F007F;">(talk)</sup></a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ritchie333" title="Special:Contributions/Ritchie333"><sup style="color:#7F007F;">(cont)</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Ritchie333-2014-06-12T13:04:00.000Z-Terry_Kath" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:04, 12 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ritchie333-2014-06-12T13:04:00.000Z-Terry_Kath"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-06-12T13:04:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2014-06-12T13:04:00.000Z-Terry_Kath","replies":["c-Smuckola-2014-06-13T21:01:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2014-06-12T13:04:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ritchie333-2014-06-12T13:04:00.000Z-Terry_Kath"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2014-06-13T21:01:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2014-06-12T13:04:00.000Z"></span>Hey bro. No, sadly, absolutely not. That editor is totally oblivious to the outside world. I noticed one prolific admin who's been also undoing his work all over the wiki, and <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Materialscientist#60.240.185.251" title="User talk:Materialscientist"> wrote to him</a> long ago, to no avail yet. I just wrote again because of what you said. I've just been following his contribution list every few days and reviewing it. He does a lot of helpful output, such as tedious categories, but he's also a warpath of WP:OR, uncited stuff, and overkill of categories and credits. — <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2014-06-13T21:01:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2014-06-12T13:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 13 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2014-06-13T21:01:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2014-06-12T13:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-06-13T21:01:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2014-06-13T21:01:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2014-06-12T13:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ritchie333-2014-06-15T09:04:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-06-13T21:01:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2014-06-13T21:01:00.000Z-Ritchie333-2014-06-12T13:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ritchie333-2014-06-15T09:04:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-06-13T21:01:00.000Z"></span>I've dropped him a fairly straightforward "start talking or it'll have to go to ANI" note - that should do the trick one way or the other. I've found the page error on Kath's article, and explained why <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Sfn" title="Template:Sfn">sfn</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> is my preferred citation format for good articles. <a href="/wiki/User:Ritchie333" title="User:Ritchie333"><span style="color:#7F007F;"><b>Ritchie333</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ritchie333" title="User talk:Ritchie333"><sup style="color:#7F007F;">(talk)</sup></a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ritchie333" title="Special:Contributions/Ritchie333"><sup style="color:#7F007F;">(cont)</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Ritchie333-2014-06-15T09:04:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-06-13T21:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:04, 15 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ritchie333-2014-06-15T09:04:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-06-13T21:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-06-15T09:04:00.000Z","author":"Ritchie333","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ritchie333-2014-06-15T09:04:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-06-13T21:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ritchie333-2014-06-15T09:04:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-06-13T21:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Arkhandar-2014-07-06T16:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_Barnstar_for_you!_5-2014-07-06T16:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Arkhandar-2014-07-06T16:09:00.000Z-A_Barnstar_for_you!_5&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A Barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A Barnstar for you! 5&quot;}--><h2 id="A_Barnstar_for_you!_5" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_Barnstar_for_you!_5-2014-07-06T16:09:00.000Z"><span id="A_Barnstar_for_you.21_5"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_Barnstar_for_you!_5-2014-07-06T16:09:00.000Z"></span>A Barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_Barnstar_for_you!_5-2014-07-06T16:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Arkhandar-2014-07-06T16:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_Barnstar_for_you!_5-2014-07-06T16:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Arkhandar-2014-07-06T16:09:00.000Z-A_Barnstar_for_you!_5"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Arkhandar-2014-07-06T16:09:00.000Z-A_Barnstar_for_you!_5","timestamp":"2014-07-06T16:09:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Arkhandar-2014-07-06T16:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_Barnstar_for_you!_5-2014-07-06T16:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Arkhandar-2014-07-06T16:09:00.000Z-A_Barnstar_for_you!_5&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A Barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A Barnstar for you! 5&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" valign="middle"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arkhandar-2014-07-06T16:09:00.000Z-A_Barnstar_for_you!_5"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Barnstar_of_Diligence.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/Barnstar_of_Diligence.png/100px-Barnstar_of_Diligence.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="96" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Barnstar_of_Diligence.png 1.5x" data-file-width="111" data-file-height="107"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>The Barnstar of Diligence</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">For your tireless work on expanding and copy editing in the <a href="/wiki/64DD" title="64DD">64DD</a> article. You have my thanks, as well as the entire <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NIN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NIN">Nintendo Task Force</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Arkhandar" title="User:Arkhandar"><span style="color:teal"><b>Arkhandar</b></span></a> <small>(<span style="color:green"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Arkhandar" title="User talk:Arkhandar">Talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Arkhandar" title="Special:Contributions/Arkhandar">Contribs</a></span>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Arkhandar-2014-07-06T16:09:00.000Z-A_Barnstar_for_you!_5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:09, 6 July 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arkhandar-2014-07-06T16:09:00.000Z-A_Barnstar_for_you!_5"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-07-06T16:09:00.000Z","author":"Arkhandar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Arkhandar-2014-07-06T16:09:00.000Z-A_Barnstar_for_you!_5","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arkhandar-2014-07-06T16:09:00.000Z-A_Barnstar_for_you!_5"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Joe_Vitale_5-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_Cup_of_Coffee_for_Smuckola-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Joe_Vitale_5-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z-A_Cup_of_Coffee_for_Smuckola&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A Cup of Coffee for Smuckola&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A Cup of Coffee for Smuckola&quot;}--><h2 id="A_Cup_of_Coffee_for_Smuckola" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_Cup_of_Coffee_for_Smuckola-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_Cup_of_Coffee_for_Smuckola-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z"></span>A Cup of Coffee for Smuckola<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_Cup_of_Coffee_for_Smuckola-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Joe_Vitale_5-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_Cup_of_Coffee_for_Smuckola-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Joe_Vitale_5-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z-A_Cup_of_Coffee_for_Smuckola"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2014-07-11T21:07:00.000Z-Joe_Vitale_5-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z","timestamp":"2014-07-11T21:07:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Joe_Vitale_5-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_Cup_of_Coffee_for_Smuckola-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Joe_Vitale_5-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z-A_Cup_of_Coffee_for_Smuckola&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A Cup of Coffee for Smuckola&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A Cup of Coffee for Smuckola&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joe_Vitale_5-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z-A_Cup_of_Coffee_for_Smuckola"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:A_small_cup_of_coffee.JPG" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/A_small_cup_of_coffee.JPG/120px-A_small_cup_of_coffee.JPG" decoding="async" width="120" height="90" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/A_small_cup_of_coffee.JPG/180px-A_small_cup_of_coffee.JPG 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/A_small_cup_of_coffee.JPG/240px-A_small_cup_of_coffee.JPG 2x" data-file-width="1600" data-file-height="1200"/></a></span> </td> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Thank you very much for thanking myself, keep up the good work and if you need any help with anything feel free to contact me on my talk page, It would be a great pleasure to work with another great editor! (excluding myself). Best wishes and kind regards <a href="/wiki/User:Joe_Vitale_5" title="User:Joe Vitale 5">Joe Vitale 5</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joe_Vitale_5" title="User talk:Joe Vitale 5">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Joe_Vitale_5-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z-A_Cup_of_Coffee_for_Smuckola" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:58, 11 July 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joe_Vitale_5-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z-A_Cup_of_Coffee_for_Smuckola"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z","author":"Joe Vitale 5","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Joe_Vitale_5-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z-A_Cup_of_Coffee_for_Smuckola","replies":["c-Smuckola-2014-07-11T21:07:00.000Z-Joe_Vitale_5-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joe_Vitale_5-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z-A_Cup_of_Coffee_for_Smuckola"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2014-07-11T21:07:00.000Z-Joe_Vitale_5-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Joe_Vitale_5" title="User:Joe Vitale 5">Joe Vitale 5</a>:</span>A cup of JOE??? How thoughtful! I shall definitely keep that actively in mind. And best wishes to you as well, sir. — <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2014-07-11T21:07:00.000Z-Joe_Vitale_5-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:07, 11 July 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2014-07-11T21:07:00.000Z-Joe_Vitale_5-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-07-11T21:07:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2014-07-11T21:07:00.000Z-Joe_Vitale_5-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2014-07-11T21:07:00.000Z-Joe_Vitale_5-2014-07-11T20:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Chicago_XXXVI-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI&quot;,&quot;c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-28T16:10:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI&quot;,&quot;c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-28T16:14:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Chicago XXXVI&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Chicago XXXVI&quot;}--><h2 id="Chicago_XXXVI" data-mw-thread-id="h-Chicago_XXXVI-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Chicago_XXXVI-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z"></span>Chicago XXXVI<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Chicago_XXXVI-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Chicago_XXXVI-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI","c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-28T16:10:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI","c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-28T16:14:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-28T16:14:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI","timestamp":"2014-07-28T16:14:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__11__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Chicago_XXXVI-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI&quot;,&quot;c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-28T16:10:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI&quot;,&quot;c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-28T16:14:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Chicago XXXVI&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Chicago XXXVI&quot;}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256386598"> <div style="margin-left:0"> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="color:inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid Silver; margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th class="cot-header-other" style="; font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align:center;"><div style="font-size:115%;margin:0 4em">Extended content</div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:inherit; border: solid 1px Silver; padding: 0.6em; background: var(--background-color-base, #fff);"> <p>I know that this isn't related to your edits on Wikipedia, but have you picked up Chicago's new album yet? If not, I highly recommend that you do so! <a href="/wiki/User:Dobbyelf62" title="User:Dobbyelf62">Dobbyelf62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dobbyelf62" title="User talk:Dobbyelf62">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:01, 23 July 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z","author":"Dobbyelf62","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI","replies":["c-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z","c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-25T17:33:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z"></span>Dobbity Dobbster! Dr. Dobbs! Good to see ya man. This is a Chicago house so yes we have it ;) We've watched the videos and such many times. Because of my Chicago work on Wikipedia, I met Tris and Wally and we got to be pals and they invited us to see them in Kansas City next month &lt;3. We got a <i>Chicago II</i> record so hopefully they'll sign it. I just noticed that you had created some articles, so good job. They're quite robust. — <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:55, 25 July 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T13:37:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T13:37:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z"></span>You are so lucky!!!!! Wally and Tris are my favorite members of Chicago. I still prefer Danny, but Tris is a great drummer in his own right. I have purchased the album as well, and it is a solid record with only a few weak tracks. Many of the songs seem to be overproduced, which is what to expect from Chicago now (pun intended). Still don't know why they have track 11 as a bonus track though, as every copy contains that track. I wish they didn't include as much Jason on the album, even though his tracks were amazing musically. Lyrically, not so much. Commercially, their album is faring well. But what I'm most excitrd about is that Weird Al's new album is at #1! What are your thoughts? <a href="/wiki/User:Dobbyelf62" title="User:Dobbyelf62">Dobbyelf62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dobbyelf62" title="User talk:Dobbyelf62">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T13:37:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:37, 26 July 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T13:37:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-07-26T13:37:00.000Z","author":"Dobbyelf62","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T13:37:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T13:37:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-25T17:33:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z"></span>Both the Personnel and Reception section of this article contradict each other. The personnel does not list Wally playing percussion on Crazy Happy, yet in the the reception, it says the track includes percussion from the great Walfredo Reyes. Which one is correct? <a href="/wiki/User:Dobbyelf62" title="User:Dobbyelf62">Dobbyelf62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dobbyelf62" title="User talk:Dobbyelf62">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-25T17:33:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:33, 25 July 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-25T17:33:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-07-25T17:33:00.000Z","author":"Dobbyelf62","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-25T17:33:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-25T17:33:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-25T17:33:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-23T13:01:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-25T17:33:00.000Z"></span>At this point, the credits occupy half the article! I created a monster with that "expand section" template! That's literally just about the only contribution anyone else has made to the article since I wrote it! Pretty soon, somebody's going to include the names of all the hotel janitorial staff at all the recording locations. I guess I'll look on the CD liner notes. I just wasted quite a while searching for Billboard's citation (what a train wreck of a web site) of their chart position, as claimed on chicago-now.com. :( — <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-25T17:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:55, 25 July 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-25T17:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-25T17:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T13:37:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z-1"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-25T17:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T13:37:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z-1"></span>Yes, several of the tracks include session musicians, and there's lots of them! John McFee of the Doobie Brothers appears on one track. I really don't see why Chicago needs session musicians. They have nine members, so why not use them? Poor Walter doesn't appear until track 7, and doesn't close out the album either. This is what likely happened: James Pankow "Hey Walt, we're five tracks into the record and you've yet to play on a single one of them. So, why don't you come over and play on this one? This one we get to play three measures!" Walter Parazaider: "Neh, I think I'll pass on this one." James Pankow: "Fine then!" Anyways, as far as I'm aware, the credits are correct. <a href="/wiki/User:Dobbyelf62" title="User:Dobbyelf62">Dobbyelf62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dobbyelf62" title="User talk:Dobbyelf62">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T13:37:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:37, 26 July 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T13:37:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-07-26T13:37:00.000Z","author":"Dobbyelf62","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T13:37:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z-1","replies":["c-Smuckola-2014-07-26T19:21:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T13:37:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T13:37:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-07-25T21:55:00.000Z-1"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2014-07-26T19:21:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T13:37:00.000Z"></span>Ha, I don't know where those credits even came from! Totally unsourced. Do you know? I'm pretty sure that the Discography manual of style requires them to only be a succinct form. I don't think we're even necessarily supposed to list every minor instrument, let alone every minor contributor. — <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2014-07-26T19:21:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T13:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:21, 26 July 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2014-07-26T19:21:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T13:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-07-26T19:21:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Smuckola-2014-07-26T19:21:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T13:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T20:01:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-07-26T19:21:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2014-07-26T19:21:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T13:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T20:01:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-07-26T19:21:00.000Z"></span>Really? They're at the bottom of each page. <a href="/wiki/User:Dobbyelf62" title="User:Dobbyelf62">Dobbyelf62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dobbyelf62" title="User talk:Dobbyelf62">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T20:01:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-07-26T19:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 26 July 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T20:01:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-07-26T19:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-07-26T20:01:00.000Z","author":"Dobbyelf62","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T20:01:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-07-26T19:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Smuckola-2014-07-28T10:46:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T20:01:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T20:01:00.000Z-Smuckola-2014-07-26T19:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2014-07-28T10:46:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T20:01:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Dobbyelf62" title="User:Dobbyelf62">Dobbyelf62</a>:</span>No, I mean I don't know from where these people are sourcing this multitude of credits for the album. Also my woman is wondering whether your username comes from Harry Potter. ;) I think XXXVI is pretty good, and its free-form creation and direct marketing are a true modern innovation in the industry which I hope Weird Al can emulate now that he's free of his contractual indentured servitude. I met Weird Al's band when they played here, because Wally and Tris are pals with them and texted em to find me after the concert. I made a weird "HELLO I'M FROM WIKIPEDIA" tshirt bearing a custom graphic of Jimbo with a bubble pipe like "Bob" of the Church of the Subgenius, and Al signed the fake name tag on it. They all told me that their Wikipedia articles are all filled with lies, but they're not. ;) My repeated and unsolicited advice to Tris in leading up to XXXVI was always "when in doubt, SISYPHIZE IT". Sisyphus is just about the ultimate, and it has some serious Tris juice. See the Allmusic review info I just put in XXXVI's article the other day which shares my opinion about its overall sound. "America"<span class="nowrap" style="padding-left:0.1em;">'</span>s lyrics are impactful (and includes a horn lick from "The Pull" which was meant to indicate the heatwaves coming off the ground in a Kansas summer, as written by Dawayne who's from Manhattan, where I used to live) and "Crazy Happy" is crazy happy. — <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2014-07-28T10:46:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T20:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:46, 28 July 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2014-07-28T10:46:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T20:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-07-28T10:46:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Smuckola-2014-07-28T10:46:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T20:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2014-07-28T10:46:00.000Z-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-26T20:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-28T16:10:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI"></span>Wow! I don't know where to start on this one, but I'll have a go at it. If you're really curious about the lack of sources, it wouldn't hurt asking. As of my username, yes, I'm a Harry Potter fan! Dobby also happens to be my favorite character from that series, so it only made sense to incorporate into my username in some way. I'm not sure how familiar you are with the character, but he's more of a comic relief. Unfortunately, they minimized his role signifigantly in the movies :( I have heard rumors that this will be Weird Al's album since his contract expired, so it's not likely that he'll get to release another album. Usually, celebrities distance themselves from Wikipedia as they claim it's unreliable. I'm not going to defend it and say it is, because it really isn't. Of course, I always consult Wikipedia first whenever I need information on a certain topic. I'm glad you were able to find a review of "Now". Your work won't go unnoticed. Keep up the good work! <a href="/wiki/User:Dobbyelf62" title="User:Dobbyelf62">Dobbyelf62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dobbyelf62" title="User talk:Dobbyelf62">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-28T16:10:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:10, 28 July 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-28T16:10:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-07-28T16:10:00.000Z","author":"Dobbyelf62","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-28T16:10:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-28T16:10:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-28T16:14:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI"></span>Never mind, it may not be his last album. <a href="/wiki/User:Dobbyelf62" title="User:Dobbyelf62">Dobbyelf62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dobbyelf62" title="User talk:Dobbyelf62">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-28T16:14:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:14, 28 July 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-28T16:14:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-07-28T16:14:00.000Z","author":"Dobbyelf62","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-28T16:14:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dobbyelf62-2014-07-28T16:14:00.000Z-Chicago_XXXVI"></span> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Diemor50-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_barnstar_for_you!_6-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Diemor50-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_6&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you! 6&quot;}--><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!_6" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_6-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21_6"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_6-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_6-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Diemor50-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_barnstar_for_you!_6-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Diemor50-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_6"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2014-08-19T04:26:00.000Z-Diemor50-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z","timestamp":"2014-08-19T04:26:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Diemor50-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_barnstar_for_you!_6-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Diemor50-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_6&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you! 6&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Diemor50-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_6"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Original_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Original Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Hi sir but the PS Vita did sell 10 million units <p>look at this article and find the PS Vita <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_million-selling_game_consoles">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_million-selling_game_consoles</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Diemor50&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Diemor50 (page does not exist)">Diemor50</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Diemor50" title="User talk:Diemor50">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Diemor50-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:03, 19 August 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Diemor50-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_6"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z","author":"Diemor50","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Diemor50-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_6","replies":["c-Smuckola-2014-08-19T04:26:00.000Z-Diemor50-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Diemor50-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_6"></span> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2014-08-19T04:26:00.000Z-Diemor50-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Diemor50&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Diemor50 (page does not exist)">Diemor50</a>:</span>Hey there, friend. We don't mean to be harsh, and some of us are dealing with a lot of abuse and a lot of weirdos every hour of every day, so I don't mean to just dump a warning on you without talking with you. But we just absolutely must have *reliable* citations for important information like that. Please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a>. And you can't repeatedly defy other people under any circumstances. Please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:3RR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:3RR">WP:3RR</a>. For an orientation to Wikipedia, please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:5" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:5">WP:5</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FIRST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FIRST">WP:FIRST</a>. I looked at the citation in <a href="/wiki/List_of_million-selling_game_consoles" class="mw-redirect" title="List of million-selling game consoles">List_of_million-selling_game_consoles</a> and it's a guesstimate, which is not allowed. Sony quit publishing sales statistics, which sucks for us. Your enthusiasm is encouraged! I know it's tough to learn at first, but please do read those articles carefully, several times. It's weird stuff but it's how an encyclopedia has to be.  ;) Thank you. — <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2014-08-19T04:26:00.000Z-Diemor50-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:26, 19 August 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2014-08-19T04:26:00.000Z-Diemor50-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-08-19T04:26:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2014-08-19T04:26:00.000Z-Diemor50-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2014-08-19T04:26:00.000Z-Diemor50-2014-08-19T00:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Spike_Wilbury-2014-09-22T19:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_very_tardy_response-2014-09-22T19:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Spike_Wilbury-2014-09-22T19:32:00.000Z-A_very_tardy_response&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A very tardy response&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A very tardy response&quot;}--><h2 id="A_very_tardy_response" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_very_tardy_response-2014-09-22T19:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_very_tardy_response-2014-09-22T19:32:00.000Z"></span>A very tardy response<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_very_tardy_response-2014-09-22T19:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Spike_Wilbury-2014-09-22T19:32:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_very_tardy_response-2014-09-22T19:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Spike_Wilbury-2014-09-22T19:32:00.000Z-A_very_tardy_response"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Spike_Wilbury-2014-09-22T19:32:00.000Z-A_very_tardy_response","timestamp":"2014-09-22T19:32:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Spike_Wilbury-2014-09-22T19:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_very_tardy_response-2014-09-22T19:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Spike_Wilbury-2014-09-22T19:32:00.000Z-A_very_tardy_response&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A very tardy response&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A very tardy response&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spike_Wilbury-2014-09-22T19:32:00.000Z-A_very_tardy_response"></span>Dear Smuckola, you <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Spike_Wilbury&amp;diff=616164869&amp;oldid=615430407">messaged me</a> some time back about the naming issue with <i><a href="/wiki/Chicago_XXXVI:_Now" title="Chicago XXXVI: Now">Chicago XXXVI: Now</a></i> and other matters. I haven't been on the site at all since then, but I did read and consider your message. Unfortunately a lot of times it just boils down to page-level consensus if there is a dispute. A lot of articles end up using the title most often used in RS, and then including a "sometimes stylized" phrase like we currently have in the <i>XXXVI</i> article. On pages where the dispute keeps emerging, I've seen FAQs put in to place. When the next inquiry comes in, usually from an editor unfamiliar with the history of the page, they can just be directed to the FAQ where you would list the various objections people have to the current title and your rebuttals to all of them. Of course, this requires a pretty strong consensus for the existing title, otherwise you'll never get the FAQ done! --<a href="/wiki/User:Spike_Wilbury" title="User:Spike Wilbury">Spike Wilbury</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spike_Wilbury" title="User talk:Spike Wilbury">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Spike_Wilbury-2014-09-22T19:32:00.000Z-A_very_tardy_response" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:32, 22 September 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spike_Wilbury-2014-09-22T19:32:00.000Z-A_very_tardy_response"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-09-22T19:32:00.000Z","author":"Spike Wilbury","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Spike_Wilbury-2014-09-22T19:32:00.000Z-A_very_tardy_response","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spike_Wilbury-2014-09-22T19:32:00.000Z-A_very_tardy_response"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Nintendo_64_announcement-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_announcement&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Nintendo 64 announcement&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Nintendo 64 announcement&quot;}--><h2 id="Nintendo_64_announcement" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nintendo_64_announcement-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nintendo_64_announcement-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z"></span>Nintendo 64 announcement<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nintendo_64_announcement-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Nintendo_64_announcement-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_announcement"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Martin_IIIa-2015-03-20T15:18:00.000Z-Smuckola-2015-02-06T07:50:00.000Z","timestamp":"2015-03-20T15:18:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Nintendo_64_announcement-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_announcement&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Nintendo 64 announcement&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Nintendo 64 announcement&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_announcement"></span>Hi! In response to your email, I have to say I was rather surprised myself to learn that Nintendo had made public the details about "Project Reality" that early on. I've uploaded a scan of the source <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af317/Martin-III/Magazine%20clippings/Send_zpse3d0acd8.png">here</a>. Apart from everything else, I think as an enthusiast of the N64 you'll find it an amusing read with the gift of 20/20 hindsight.--<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_IIIa" title="User talk:Martin IIIa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_announcement" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:42, 28 September 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_announcement"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z","author":"Martin IIIa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_announcement","replies":["c-Smuckola-2015-01-19T14:51:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z","c-Smuckola-2015-02-06T07:50:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_announcement"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2015-01-19T14:51:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a>:</span> Hey there. I appreciate you sharing your article. I've read it several times over the months. I am ecstatic to find several sources of retro magazines at archive.org, retromags.com, and outofprintarchive.com. Go get em!!!! If you haven't noticed, I've been exploding out into Nintendo 64 and 64DD history in the last several months, and that includes Shoshinkai and the history of cartridge vs. cdrom and Nintendo's online history. — <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2015-01-19T14:51:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:51, 19 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2015-01-19T14:51:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-19T14:51:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2015-01-19T14:51:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2015-01-19T14:51:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2015-02-06T07:50:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a>:</span>Say, do you think you could help find this magazine article (preferably the whole issue), either on an archive site or just as a photograph if you have the print? &lt;ref>{{cite news |title=Project Reality |work=[[GamePro]] |issue=58 |date=May 1994 |page=170}}&lt;/ref> It doesn't seem to exist https://archive.org/details/gamepromagazine?and[]=mediatype%3A%22texts%22#collection-creator here, right?  :( I'm burning up <a href="/wiki/Nintendo_64" title="Nintendo 64">Nintendo 64</a> for the last few months! Thanks! — <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2015-02-06T07:50:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:50, 6 February 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2015-02-06T07:50:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-06T07:50:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2015-02-06T07:50:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martin_IIIa-2015-03-20T15:18:00.000Z-Smuckola-2015-02-06T07:50:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2015-02-06T07:50:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2014-09-28T03:42:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martin_IIIa-2015-03-20T15:18:00.000Z-Smuckola-2015-02-06T07:50:00.000Z"></span>Hey, sorry for the late reply, but I didn't see this post until just now. I found the whole issue at Emuparadise. Here's the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.emuparadise.me/magazine-comic-guide-scans/magazines">link</a>.--<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_IIIa" title="User talk:Martin IIIa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Martin_IIIa-2015-03-20T15:18:00.000Z-Smuckola-2015-02-06T07:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:18, 20 March 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martin_IIIa-2015-03-20T15:18:00.000Z-Smuckola-2015-02-06T07:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-03-20T15:18:00.000Z","author":"Martin 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Carliitaeliza-2014-11-07T21:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-irc-2014-11-07T21:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Carliitaeliza-2014-11-07T21:21:00.000Z-irc&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;irc&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;irc&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carliitaeliza-2014-11-07T21:21:00.000Z-irc"></span>Hey there. i just realized that you answered my message on this page,sorry for late,join IRC to talk,you'll find me with the nick Carly,thanks for your contributions! :) <a href="/wiki/User:Carliitaeliza" title="User:Carliitaeliza"><span style="color:#FF3399;background:#00FFFF">Carliitaeliza</span></a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carliitaeliza" title="User talk:Carliitaeliza"><span style="color:#72A0C1">TALK</span></a></small> 21:21, 7 November 2014 (UTC) <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Carliitaeliza" title="User:Carliitaeliza">Carliitaeliza</a>:</span> carlalalalalala — <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Carliitaeliza-2014-11-07T21:21:00.000Z-irc" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:51, 19 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carliitaeliza-2014-11-07T21:21:00.000Z-irc"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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id="h-Thanks!-2014-12-31T06:27:00.000Z"></span>Thanks!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks!-2014-12-31T06:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-OcelotHod-2014-12-31T06:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Thanks!-2014-12-31T06:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-OcelotHod-2014-12-31T06:27:00.000Z-Thanks!"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-OcelotHod-2015-01-07T08:25:00.000Z-Smuckola-2015-01-06T13:31:00.000Z","timestamp":"2015-01-07T08:25:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-OcelotHod-2014-12-31T06:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thanks!-2014-12-31T06:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-OcelotHod-2014-12-31T06:27:00.000Z-Thanks!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thanks!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thanks!&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-OcelotHod-2014-12-31T06:27:00.000Z-Thanks!"></span>Hi! Thanks for your thanks for the YOLO page. :) The last few times anyone gave me a message, it was for not attributing a statement or for linking to a disambiguation page. Careless! So I opened your message with dread, and read it with delight. It was great of you to take the time. Happy New Year! <a href="/wiki/User:OcelotHod" title="User:OcelotHod">OcelotHod</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:OcelotHod" title="User talk:OcelotHod">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-OcelotHod-2014-12-31T06:27:00.000Z-Thanks!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:27, 31 December 2014 (UTC)</a> OcelotHod<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-OcelotHod-2014-12-31T06:27:00.000Z-Thanks!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-12-31T06:27:00.000Z","author":"OcelotHod","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-OcelotHod-2014-12-31T06:27:00.000Z-Thanks!","replies":["c-Smuckola-2015-01-06T13:31:00.000Z-OcelotHod-2014-12-31T06:27:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-OcelotHod-2014-12-31T06:27:00.000Z-Thanks!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2015-01-06T13:31:00.000Z-OcelotHod-2014-12-31T06:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:OcelotHod" title="User:OcelotHod">OcelotHod</a>:</span> Ha!! I completely understand that, and isn't it mostly because people mostly <b>don't</b> thank each other?  :-D Well I usually don't thank people for each edit, because most contributions are boring or poor. lol. But I do thank a lot. Wikipedia is starting to to creep in some features that curb its collective denial of the fact that it is a social network. So that's nice, and it's nice to be nice. Doing Wikipedia well, is very hard. Let me know if I can help. — <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2015-01-06T13:31:00.000Z-OcelotHod-2014-12-31T06:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:31, 6 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2015-01-06T13:31:00.000Z-OcelotHod-2014-12-31T06:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-06T13:31:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2015-01-06T13:31:00.000Z-OcelotHod-2014-12-31T06:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-OcelotHod-2015-01-07T08:25:00.000Z-Smuckola-2015-01-06T13:31:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2015-01-06T13:31:00.000Z-OcelotHod-2014-12-31T06:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-OcelotHod-2015-01-07T08:25:00.000Z-Smuckola-2015-01-06T13:31:00.000Z"></span>You're great. I won't forget you, and I certainly will call if I need help. May 2015 bring you awards, health, and wealth! <a href="/wiki/User:OcelotHod" title="User:OcelotHod">OcelotHod</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:OcelotHod" title="User talk:OcelotHod">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-OcelotHod-2015-01-07T08:25:00.000Z-Smuckola-2015-01-06T13:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:25, 7 January 2015 (UTC)</a> OcelotHod<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-OcelotHod-2015-01-07T08:25:00.000Z-Smuckola-2015-01-06T13:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T21:04:00.000Z-Potential_Robert_Lamm_source","timestamp":"2015-01-23T21:04:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T14:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Potential_Robert_Lamm_source-2015-01-23T14:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T14:27:00.000Z-Potential_Robert_Lamm_source&quot;,&quot;c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T21:04:00.000Z-Potential_Robert_Lamm_source&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Potential Robert Lamm source&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Potential Robert Lamm source&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T14:27:00.000Z-Potential_Robert_Lamm_source"></span>Hi, is this reliable enough?<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://members.core.com/~mjoann/Robert_Lamm/RLBio.html">http://members.core.com/~mjoann/Robert_Lamm/RLBio.html</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Cap%27n_Tightpants" title="User:Cap'n Tightpants">Cap'n Tightpants</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cap%27n_Tightpants" title="User talk:Cap'n Tightpants">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T14:27:00.000Z-Potential_Robert_Lamm_source" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T14:27:00.000Z-Potential_Robert_Lamm_source"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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Patently non-reliable. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> describes the criteria. It's gotta be a major publisher with editorial oversight. The goal is for the source to have made its editorial criteria publicly known, where we know that there are multiple authors or multiple individuals backing up the author, with a formal quality control process. And things that can't be arbitrarily changed, and that aren't crowdsourced. So we're looking for things that have traditionally been in print: books, magazines, newspapers, and certain web sites. So this means no weblogs, no forums, no wikis, etc. Wikipedia is the last link of the chain, so we're the only allowable wiki in the equation, but we still can't cite our own Wiki. You really should expect to need to read everything linked from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:5" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:5">WP:5</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">WP:N</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPOV">WP:NPOV</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a>) countless times, top to bottom, to have it start to sink in. Neutrality is the opposite of how people are, and it basically requires a reformation of one's personality or perspective, especially paradoxically if you're a fan. You've gotta dig in and read those policies and essays, and read existing articles that are of a high project rating. — <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2015-01-23T14:55:00.000Z-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T14:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:55, 23 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2015-01-23T14:55:00.000Z-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T14:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T14:55:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2015-01-23T14:55:00.000Z-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T14:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2015-01-23T14:55:00.000Z-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T14:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2015-01-23T15:42:00.000Z-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T14:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Cap%27n_Tightpants" title="User:Cap'n Tightpants">Cap'n Tightpants</a>:</span>By the way, I am a superfan Wikipedian. I have just learned how to translate my passion into neutrality -- that's not the same as neutralizing one's passion. I am indeed a Chicago superfan, I'm friends with the band, and I've written two of their biographies from scratch. Those things all aligned. I took the photograph on Robert's article. Same with my superfandom with Nintendo and other companies and whatnot. When you become enough of a Wikipedia geek, and a technically neutral mentality sets in, you learn how to find and inject the right things. Chicago and Nintendo got me back into reading books occasionally for this purpose, as a "refminer" (mining for references). I familiarize with existing articles so that when I read books and magazines, I know where to fill stuff in. I bought a pile of obscure Chicago-related books and DVDs on ebay. You'll find random personal heresay like the web site you mentioned, and you'll use it as a clue for finding real sources. Google for those ideas or those quotations, or just email the person to ask for their sources. Sometimes I read mountains of rough, to learn how to search for the diamond. If you can find old print and video resources that nobody else has found for Wikipedia, that's beyond the "low hanging fruit" that everyone else has already picked over. Or read the same old sources to arrange facts in a different light. — <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2015-01-23T15:42:00.000Z-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T14:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2015-01-23T15:42:00.000Z-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T14:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T15:42:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2015-01-23T15:42:00.000Z-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T14:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2015-01-23T15:42:00.000Z-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T14:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T21:04:00.000Z-Potential_Robert_Lamm_source"></span>Okay, thanks. I'll keep digging. <a href="/wiki/User:Cap%27n_Tightpants" title="User:Cap'n Tightpants">Cap'n Tightpants</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cap%27n_Tightpants" title="User talk:Cap'n Tightpants">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T21:04:00.000Z-Potential_Robert_Lamm_source" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:04, 23 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T21:04:00.000Z-Potential_Robert_Lamm_source"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T21:04:00.000Z","author":"Cap'n Tightpants","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T21:04:00.000Z-Potential_Robert_Lamm_source","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T21:04:00.000Z-Potential_Robert_Lamm_source"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-In_response_to_the_kitten:)-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z-In_response_to_the_kitten:)&quot;,&quot;c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T21:47:00.000Z-In_response_to_the_kitten:)&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;In response to the kitten:)&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;In response to the kitten:)&quot;}--><h2 id="In_response_to_the_kitten:)" data-mw-thread-id="h-In_response_to_the_kitten:)-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z"><span id="In_response_to_the_kitten:.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-In_response_to_the_kitten:)-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z"></span>In response to the kitten:)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-In_response_to_the_kitten:)-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-In_response_to_the_kitten:)-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z-In_response_to_the_kitten:)","c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T21:47:00.000Z-In_response_to_the_kitten:)"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T21:47:00.000Z-In_response_to_the_kitten:)","timestamp":"2015-01-23T21:47:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-In_response_to_the_kitten:)-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z-In_response_to_the_kitten:)&quot;,&quot;c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T21:47:00.000Z-In_response_to_the_kitten:)&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;In response to the kitten:)&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;In response to the kitten:)&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z-In_response_to_the_kitten:)"></span>Thanks for the kitten! You asked me about my interests, also. Well, there's <i><a href="/wiki/Firefly_(TV_series)" title="Firefly (TV series)">Firefly</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Xkcd" title="Xkcd">xkcd</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Star_Trek" title="Star Trek">Star Trek</a></i>, and, of course, <a href="/wiki/Chicago_(band)" title="Chicago (band)">Chicago</a>. Only 15 years old, and already I'm living in the past! <a href="/wiki/User:Cap%27n_Tightpants" title="User:Cap'n Tightpants">Cap'n Tightpants</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cap%27n_Tightpants" title="User talk:Cap'n Tightpants">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z-In_response_to_the_kitten:)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:57, 23 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z-In_response_to_the_kitten:)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z","author":"Cap'n Tightpants","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z-In_response_to_the_kitten:)","replies":["c-Smuckola-2015-01-23T21:23:00.000Z-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z-In_response_to_the_kitten:)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2015-01-23T21:23:00.000Z-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Cap%27n_Tightpants" title="User:Cap'n Tightpants">Cap'n Tightpants</a>:</span> And already at Captain status! Superb. What a prodigy! FYI, feel free to reply in place and use {{reply to | Smuckola}} to notify the person. — <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2015-01-23T21:23:00.000Z-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:23, 23 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2015-01-23T21:23:00.000Z-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T21:23:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2015-01-23T21:23:00.000Z-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2015-01-23T21:23:00.000Z-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T18:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T21:47:00.000Z-In_response_to_the_kitten:)"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a>:</span> Thanks! I was wondering how to reply! <a href="/wiki/User:Cap%27n_Tightpants" title="User:Cap'n Tightpants">Cap'n Tightpants</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cap%27n_Tightpants" title="User talk:Cap'n Tightpants">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T21:47:00.000Z-In_response_to_the_kitten:)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:47, 23 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T21:47:00.000Z-In_response_to_the_kitten:)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-01-23T21:47:00.000Z","author":"Cap'n Tightpants","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T21:47:00.000Z-In_response_to_the_kitten:)","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cap'n_Tightpants-2015-01-23T21:47:00.000Z-In_response_to_the_kitten:)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Smuckola-2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-You_do_what_I_do,_eh?-2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Smuckola-2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z-You_do_what_I_do,_eh?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;You do what I do, eh?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;You do what I do, eh?&quot;}--><h2 id="You_do_what_I_do,_eh?" data-mw-thread-id="h-You_do_what_I_do,_eh?-2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z"><span id="You_do_what_I_do.2C_eh.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-You_do_what_I_do,_eh?-2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z"></span>You do what I do, eh?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-You_do_what_I_do,_eh?-2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Smuckola-2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-You_do_what_I_do,_eh?-2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Smuckola-2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z-You_do_what_I_do,_eh?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-I_dream_of_horses-2015-02-11T03:26:00.000Z-Smuckola-2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z","timestamp":"2015-02-11T03:26:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Smuckola-2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-You_do_what_I_do,_eh?-2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Smuckola-2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z-You_do_what_I_do,_eh?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;You do what I do, eh?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;You do what I do, eh?&quot;}--></div></div></div> <div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z-You_do_what_I_do,_eh?"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Smiley.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Smiley.svg/62px-Smiley.svg.png" decoding="async" width="62" height="62" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Smiley.svg/93px-Smiley.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Smiley.svg/124px-Smiley.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="800" data-file-height="800"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <b>Hello Smuckola</b>, I dream of horses has smiled at you! Smiles promote <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiLove" title="Wikipedia:WikiLove">WikiLove</a> and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiLove" title="Wikipedia:WikiLove">WikiLove</a> by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! <br/> <small><i>Smile at others by adding {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Smile" title="Template:Smile">subst:Smile</a>}} to their talk page with a friendly message.</i></small></div> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:I_dream_of_horses" title="User:I dream of horses">I dream of horses</a>:</span> At all times! FYI I'm dtm on IRC in case you forgot. And if you forgot that we're friends there, then I dunno. LEAD ON and dream on, o fearless platypus. — <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> <small><a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola" title="Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">(Email)</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink">(Talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z-You_do_what_I_do,_eh?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:17, 9 February 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z-You_do_what_I_do,_eh?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Smuckola-2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z-You_do_what_I_do,_eh?","replies":["c-I_dream_of_horses-2015-02-11T03:26:00.000Z-Smuckola-2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z-You_do_what_I_do,_eh?"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-I_dream_of_horses-2015-02-11T03:26:00.000Z-Smuckola-2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z"></span>I didn't know you were dtm. For some reason, that didn't ping me, by the way. --<a href="/wiki/User:I_dream_of_horses" title="User:I dream of horses">I dream of horses</a> <span style="border:1px solid #ffa500;background:#ffce7b;"><small>If you reply here, please leave me a {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Talkback" title="Template:Talkback">Talkback</a>}} message on <a href="/wiki/User_talk:I_dream_of_horses" title="User talk:I dream of horses">my talk page</a>.</small></span> @ <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-I_dream_of_horses-2015-02-11T03:26:00.000Z-Smuckola-2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:26, 11 February 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-I_dream_of_horses-2015-02-11T03:26:00.000Z-Smuckola-2015-02-09T06:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-EEng-2015-02-22T03:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Department_of_Competitive_Gentity-2015-02-22T03:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-EEng-2015-02-22T03:38:00.000Z-Department_of_Competitive_Gentity&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Department of Competitive Gentity&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Department of Competitive Gentity&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://meaningfulmama.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/1-no-thank-you.jpg"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EEng-2015-02-22T03:38:00.000Z-Department_of_Competitive_Gentity"></span>[1]</a> <a href="/wiki/User:EEng" title="User:EEng">EEng</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EEng" title="User talk:EEng">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-EEng-2015-02-22T03:38:00.000Z-Department_of_Competitive_Gentity" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:38, 22 February 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EEng-2015-02-22T03:38:00.000Z-Department_of_Competitive_Gentity"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-02-22T03:38:00.000Z","author":"EEng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EEng-2015-02-22T03:38:00.000Z-Department_of_Competitive_Gentity","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EEng-2015-02-22T03:38:00.000Z-Department_of_Competitive_Gentity"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Doug_Weller-2015-11-01T16:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Pyramid_power-2015-11-01T16:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Doug_Weller-2015-11-01T16:22:00.000Z-Pyramid_power&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Pyramid power&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Pyramid power&quot;}--><h2 id="Pyramid_power" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pyramid_power-2015-11-01T16:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pyramid_power-2015-11-01T16:22:00.000Z"></span>Pyramid power<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pyramid_power-2015-11-01T16:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Doug_Weller-2015-11-01T16:22:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Pyramid_power-2015-11-01T16:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Doug_Weller-2015-11-01T16:22:00.000Z-Pyramid_power"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Doug_Weller-2015-11-01T16:22:00.000Z-Pyramid_power","timestamp":"2015-11-01T16:22:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Doug_Weller-2015-11-01T16:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Pyramid_power-2015-11-01T16:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Doug_Weller-2015-11-01T16:22:00.000Z-Pyramid_power&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Pyramid power&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Pyramid power&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doug_Weller-2015-11-01T16:22:00.000Z-Pyramid_power"></span>You're right, and I usually do. But that's a pretty bad article and I think fails <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EL">WP:EL</a> as it really doesn't add anything, while I think the Skeptics.dict article does. If you meant one of them was redundant it's surely the one you replaced. Meanwhile, this might amuse you:<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1877042814011410">[2]</a>. And thanks for your thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller">Doug Weller</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Doug_Weller-2015-11-01T16:22:00.000Z-Pyramid_power" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:22, 1 November 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_Weller-2015-11-01T16:22:00.000Z-Pyramid_power"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-11-01T16:22:00.000Z","author":"Doug Weller","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Doug_Weller-2015-11-01T16:22:00.000Z-Pyramid_power","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doug_Weller-2015-11-01T16:22:00.000Z-Pyramid_power"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Stone_of_Sisyphus-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z-Stone_of_Sisyphus&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Stone of Sisyphus&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Stone of Sisyphus&quot;}--><h2 id="Stone_of_Sisyphus" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stone_of_Sisyphus-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stone_of_Sisyphus-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z"></span><i>Stone of Sisyphus</i><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stone_of_Sisyphus-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Stone_of_Sisyphus-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z-Stone_of_Sisyphus"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2015-11-10T04:01:00.000Z-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T03:26:00.000Z","timestamp":"2015-11-10T04:01:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Stone_of_Sisyphus-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z-Stone_of_Sisyphus&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Stone of Sisyphus&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Stone of Sisyphus&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z-Stone_of_Sisyphus"></span>Thanks for the efforts on the <i>Stone of Sisyphus</i> article. It looks pretty darned good right now. I have that 1993 VHS tape and I've about worn it to the nub over the years. I actually saw them at Pine Knob outside Detroit that year and they played "The Pull"; I believe it was a regular part of their set for that whole tour. I remember being blown away by Dawayne Bailey's guitar work and being very excited for the album to come out. --<a href="/wiki/User:Spike_Wilbury" title="User:Spike Wilbury">Spike Wilbury</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spike_Wilbury" title="User talk:Spike Wilbury">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z-Stone_of_Sisyphus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:26, 10 November 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z-Stone_of_Sisyphus"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z","author":"Spike Wilbury","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z-Stone_of_Sisyphus","replies":["c-Smuckola-2015-11-10T02:49:00.000Z-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z-Stone_of_Sisyphus"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2015-11-10T02:49:00.000Z-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Spike_Wilbury" title="User:Spike Wilbury">Spike Wilbury</a>:</span> Yeah dude, thanks a lot. You're one of the very few people to have contributed anything since I wrote the whole article plus <a href="/wiki/Tris_Imboden" title="Tris Imboden">Tris Imboden</a> and <a href="/wiki/Walfredo_Reyes,_Jr." class="mw-redirect" title="Walfredo Reyes, Jr.">Walfredo Reyes, Jr.</a> and others about two years ago, and had the articles proofread for accuracy by Tris and Wally!  :) Wikipedia work is how I met the band! That was just months of work, and buying books for it. I just need to find a better way to format the pull.....quotes.  ;) Pull quotes are tricky to do correctly and tastefully. I just checked my video collection and I see that I don't have that one, and that it apparently didn't come out on DVD. I just have <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI9HvnOY_l4">youtube</a>! I worked a lot on <a href="/wiki/Dawayne_Bailey" title="Dawayne Bailey">Dawayne Bailey</a> and I've written to him but he didn't reply. Yeah, Dawayne is beyond everything. I saw Tris and Dawayne on the Twenty 1 tour. Please do let me know if you wanna collaborate on anything, and feel free to <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Smuckola">email me</a> about whatever. Here's my <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Smuckola#Articles">other stuff</a>. — <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2015-11-10T02:49:00.000Z-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:49, 10 November 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2015-11-10T02:49:00.000Z-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-11-10T02:49:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2015-11-10T02:49:00.000Z-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T03:26:00.000Z-Smuckola-2015-11-10T02:49:00.000Z"],"displayName":"other stuff"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2015-11-10T02:49:00.000Z-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T02:26:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T03:26:00.000Z-Smuckola-2015-11-10T02:49:00.000Z"></span>Interesting that you got to meet Tris and Wally! I like the way you are using the quotations. In my opinion, it makes the narrative much more interesting to read, especially when readers don't likely have easy access to the sources. The original Greek Theatre tape never made it to DVD, nor did <b>And the Band Played On</b> which was from 1992. There are lots of funny interviews with Jason when he was relatively new to the band, long curls and all. I have kept up with Dawayne a bit over Facebook, but he also has an assistant who handles most of his business and career-related matters. If I can find her contact information, I'll email it to you. She might like to help with his article. --<a href="/wiki/User:Spike_Wilbury" title="User:Spike Wilbury">Spike Wilbury</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spike_Wilbury" title="User talk:Spike Wilbury">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T03:26:00.000Z-Smuckola-2015-11-10T02:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:26, 10 November 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T03:26:00.000Z-Smuckola-2015-11-10T02:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-11-10T03:26:00.000Z","author":"Spike Wilbury","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T03:26:00.000Z-Smuckola-2015-11-10T02:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Smuckola-2015-11-10T04:01:00.000Z-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T03:26:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T03:26:00.000Z-Smuckola-2015-11-10T02:49:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2015-11-10T04:01:00.000Z-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T03:26:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Spike_Wilbury" title="User:Spike Wilbury">Spike Wilbury</a>:</span> All I know is that I emailed Dawayne and a long time later, someone else replied from his email address like a guard dog, and informed that they maintained his web site and Wikipedia article. I didn't bother replying to inform them that they can have the web site but absolutely no such thing is true of Wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a>, lol. They can give us sources, ideas, directions, or even a wishlist, but that's it. And I would be honored to do so, based on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable sources</a>. So I contacted Dawayne on Facebook and told him that Sisyphus is one of the greatest albums ever made, and he added me but never directly replied. I'm a little bit surprised, because I know Tris, I'm from Kansas, and I've lived in Manhattan, lol. I've been meaning to follow up more seriously. He is most active as Terry Kath's volunteer master archivalist. What a guy; Dawayne knows everything. You have poked me at a time when the mental cobwebs of formatting have shaken loose and now I have more confidence in the article. I just now implemented all the rest of the changes I'd had really stuck in my mind! Thanks! And you can see the overall todo list on the Talk page, some of which can be crossed off, thanks to you. You can see that I made this article into a monstrous achievement consummate with the band's own achievement, which is indeed worthy of having major sections of books written about it. — <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2015-11-10T04:01:00.000Z-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T03:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:01, 10 November 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2015-11-10T04:01:00.000Z-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T03:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-11-10T04:01:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Smuckola-2015-11-10T04:01:00.000Z-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T03:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2015-11-10T04:01:00.000Z-Spike_Wilbury-2015-11-10T03:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Cullen328-2015-12-31T08:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-2016-2015-12-31T08:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Cullen328-2015-12-31T08:04:00.000Z-2016&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;2016&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;2016&quot;}--><h2 id="2016" data-mw-thread-id="h-2016-2015-12-31T08:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-2016-2015-12-31T08:04:00.000Z"></span>2016<span data-mw-comment-end="h-2016-2015-12-31T08:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cullen328-2015-12-31T08:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-2016-2015-12-31T08:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cullen328-2015-12-31T08:04:00.000Z-2016"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Cullen328-2015-12-31T08:04:00.000Z-2016","timestamp":"2015-12-31T08:04:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Cullen328-2015-12-31T08:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-2016-2015-12-31T08:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Cullen328-2015-12-31T08:04:00.000Z-2016&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;2016&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;2016&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #FFFBC4; border: 8px solid #009600;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cullen328-2015-12-31T08:04:00.000Z-2016"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Happy_New_Year_.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Happy_New_Year_.jpg/500px-Happy_New_Year_.jpg" decoding="async" width="500" height="317" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Happy_New_Year_.jpg/750px-Happy_New_Year_.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Happy_New_Year_.jpg 2x" data-file-width="800" data-file-height="507"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><center><b>Happy New Year 2016!</b></center> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;"><center><b>Did you know ...</b> that back in 1885, Wikipedia editors wrote Good Articles with <a href="/wiki/Axe" title="Axe">axes</a>, <a href="/wiki/Hammer" title="Hammer">hammers</a> and <a href="/wiki/Chisel" title="Chisel">chisels</a>?<br/> <p>Thank you for your contributions to this encyclopedia using 21st century technology. I hope you don't get any unneccessary <a href="/wiki/Blister" title="Blister">blisters</a>.<br/>    – <a href="/wiki/User:Cullen328" title="User:Cullen328"><b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328</sup></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cullen328" title="User talk:Cullen328"><span style="color:#00F"><i>Let's discuss it</i></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Cullen328-2015-12-31T08:04:00.000Z-2016" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:04, 31 December 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cullen328-2015-12-31T08:04:00.000Z-2016"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-12-31T08:04:00.000Z","author":"Cullen328","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cullen328-2015-12-31T08:04:00.000Z-2016","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cullen328-2015-12-31T08:04:00.000Z-2016"></span> </p> </center></td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-IJBall-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Random_assessment_question-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-IJBall-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z-Random_assessment_question&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Random assessment question&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Random assessment question&quot;}--><h2 id="Random_assessment_question" data-mw-thread-id="h-Random_assessment_question-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Random_assessment_question-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z"></span>Random assessment question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Random_assessment_question-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-IJBall-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Random_assessment_question-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-IJBall-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z-Random_assessment_question"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-IJBall-2017-08-31T14:47:00.000Z-Smuckola-2017-08-31T12:37:00.000Z","timestamp":"2017-08-31T14:47:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-IJBall-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Random_assessment_question-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-IJBall-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z-Random_assessment_question&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Random assessment question&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Random assessment question&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IJBall-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z-Random_assessment_question"></span>Hello! I got your name off the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team" title="Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team">Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team</a> page. I have a simple request: Could you please take a look at <a href="/wiki/Emily_Hampshire" title="Emily Hampshire">Emily Hampshire</a> for me, and assess whether you think it's 'Start' class or 'C' class? I think I'm getting better at this, but I still have trouble assessing articles that are on the "bubble" between 'Start' and 'C' classes... Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:IJBall" title="User:IJBall">IJBall</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/IJBall" title="Special:Contributions/IJBall">contribs</a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:IJBall" title="User talk:IJBall">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-IJBall-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z-Random_assessment_question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:39, 27 January 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IJBall-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z-Random_assessment_question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z","author":"IJBall","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-IJBall-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z-Random_assessment_question","replies":["c-Smuckola-2017-08-31T12:37:00.000Z-IJBall-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IJBall-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z-Random_assessment_question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2017-08-31T12:37:00.000Z-IJBall-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:IJBall" title="User:IJBall">IJBall</a>:</span> Hey there buddy. I can NOT believe that I missed your message. Well I guess it's better late than never, because yeah I think that one is class C and I set it as such. Also, I cropped the background noise out of the image. I hope you're having a good time on Wikipedia. — <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2017-08-31T12:37:00.000Z-IJBall-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:37, 31 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2017-08-31T12:37:00.000Z-IJBall-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-31T12:37:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2017-08-31T12:37:00.000Z-IJBall-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-IJBall-2017-08-31T14:47:00.000Z-Smuckola-2017-08-31T12:37:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2017-08-31T12:37:00.000Z-IJBall-2016-01-27T20:39:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IJBall-2017-08-31T14:47:00.000Z-Smuckola-2017-08-31T12:37:00.000Z"></span>Thank you!! <abbr title="Smiling face" style="border-bottom: none;"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span></abbr> --<a href="/wiki/User:IJBall" title="User:IJBall">IJBall</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/IJBall" title="Special:Contributions/IJBall">contribs</a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:IJBall" title="User talk:IJBall">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-IJBall-2017-08-31T14:47:00.000Z-Smuckola-2017-08-31T12:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:47, 31 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IJBall-2017-08-31T14:47:00.000Z-Smuckola-2017-08-31T12:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-31T14:47:00.000Z","author":"IJBall","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-IJBall-2017-08-31T14:47:00.000Z-Smuckola-2017-08-31T12:37:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IJBall-2017-08-31T14:47:00.000Z-Smuckola-2017-08-31T12:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Martin_IIIa-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Re:_The_kitten_of_DILIGENCE-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z-Re:_The_kitten_of_DILIGENCE&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Re: The kitten of DILIGENCE&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Re: The kitten of DILIGENCE&quot;}--><h2 id="Re:_The_kitten_of_DILIGENCE" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_The_kitten_of_DILIGENCE-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_The_kitten_of_DILIGENCE-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z"></span>Re: The kitten of DILIGENCE<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_The_kitten_of_DILIGENCE-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Martin_IIIa-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Re:_The_kitten_of_DILIGENCE-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martin_IIIa-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z-Re:_The_kitten_of_DILIGENCE"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:14:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z","timestamp":"2016-06-08T23:14:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Martin_IIIa-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Re:_The_kitten_of_DILIGENCE-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z-Re:_The_kitten_of_DILIGENCE&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Re: The kitten of DILIGENCE&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Re: The kitten of DILIGENCE&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martin_IIIa-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z-Re:_The_kitten_of_DILIGENCE"></span>Thanks! It always feels good to be of use.--<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_IIIa" title="User talk:Martin IIIa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Martin_IIIa-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z-Re:_The_kitten_of_DILIGENCE" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:41, 5 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martin_IIIa-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z-Re:_The_kitten_of_DILIGENCE"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z","author":"Martin IIIa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martin_IIIa-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z-Re:_The_kitten_of_DILIGENCE","replies":["c-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:14:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martin_IIIa-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z-Re:_The_kitten_of_DILIGENCE"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:14:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a>:</span> That you are, sir. Have you applied for access to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EBSCO#Apply" title="Wikipedia:EBSCO"> EBSCO archives at the Wikipedia Library</a>? They have free access to the actual copies of the magazines, and Thibbs would let you in pronto. There are a lot of video game resources available beyond just blatant video game magazines, like business and technology magazines and newspapers. Also I sometimes find some like Billboard, at books.google.com. — <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:14:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:14, 8 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:14:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-06-08T23:14:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:14:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:14:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2016-06-05T11:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Wild_Guns-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z-Wild_Guns&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Wild Guns&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Wild Guns&quot;}--><h2 id="Wild_Guns" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wild_Guns-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wild_Guns-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z"></span>Wild Guns<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wild_Guns-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Wild_Guns-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z-Wild_Guns"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-TarkusAB-2016-06-09T10:46:00.000Z-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:29:00.000Z","timestamp":"2016-06-09T10:46:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Wild_Guns-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z-Wild_Guns&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Wild Guns&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Wild Guns&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z-Wild_Guns"></span>Why did you list <a href="/wiki/Wild_Guns" title="Wild Guns">Wild Guns</a> under Nintendo task force? It's not a Nintendo IP so I don't see how it's within scope. <a href="/wiki/User:TarkusAB" title="User:TarkusAB"><span style="color: #006400"><b>TarkusAB</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z-Wild_Guns" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:28, 8 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z-Wild_Guns"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z","author":"TarkusAB","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z-Wild_Guns","replies":["c-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:10:00.000Z-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z-Wild_Guns"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:10:00.000Z-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:TarkusAB" title="User:TarkusAB">TarkusAB</a>:</span> Hi there. I wasn't sure of the exact criteria but of course it's relevant to Nintendo, and other non-Nintendo games on Nintendo platforms are marked as such because they are of course relevant to the Nintendo task force. But whatever. You were cool and you did a good job on <a href="/wiki/Stadium_Events" title="Stadium Events">Stadium Events</a> so I just went into your history to contribute to whatever you were interested in lately. FYI, sometimes it's good to keep a draft open for a long time or to create a separate sandbox document as a long-term draft, rather than create a hundred small untrackable edits. — <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:10:00.000Z-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:10, 8 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:10:00.000Z-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-06-08T23:10:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:10:00.000Z-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T23:21:00.000Z-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:10:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:10:00.000Z-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T17:28:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T23:21:00.000Z-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:10:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a>:</span>OK. Yea I just saw and wasn't really familiar with Nin task force and then started reading and it didn't seem to fit. Looks like someone already removed the tag. Seems to be only for Nintendo owned IPs. But I forgot to say thanks for your contributions to Stadium Events and Wild Guns!!! You really helped out those articles. I liked your instruction manual citation style from Stadium Events and used it when writing up Wild Guns. And yea I need to use my sandbox more. <a href="/wiki/User:TarkusAB" title="User:TarkusAB"><span style="color: #006400"><b>TarkusAB</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T23:21:00.000Z-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:21, 8 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T23:21:00.000Z-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-06-08T23:21:00.000Z","author":"TarkusAB","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T23:21:00.000Z-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:29:00.000Z-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T23:21:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T23:21:00.000Z-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:10:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:29:00.000Z-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T23:21:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:TarkusAB" title="User:TarkusAB">TarkusAB</a>:</span> Oh great. I'm so glad. I need to talk with the developers of cite.php and other MediaWiki infrastructure, to ask about the future of citation formatting, because at some point the {{rp}} style will be converted to something more properly unifed. But at least this usage is clean enough that it can be done automatically. I'm amazed at how advanced you are for how relatively few edits you've done. Usually, people would be doing article class promotions after tens of thousands of edits, not 1,000. Please do let me know if you want any help or have any other interests. You can see my interests on my user page, but it's mostly Nintendo history like Nintendo 64, and the more esoteric lost artifacts and online stuff. And you can feel free to email me if you want to get more indepth or go off the wiki. — <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:29:00.000Z-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T23:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:29, 8 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:29:00.000Z-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T23:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-06-08T23:29:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:29:00.000Z-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T23:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-TarkusAB-2016-06-09T10:46:00.000Z-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:29:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:29:00.000Z-TarkusAB-2016-06-08T23:21:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TarkusAB-2016-06-09T10:46:00.000Z-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:29:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a>:</span>I have interests in other topics but when it comes to wiki I really like working on VG articles. Mostly interested in console games from the NES-era until the end of PS2. Love survival horror games and whatever classic game has me interested at any moment in time. I think I've just been able to get these articles down to a science and it's easy for me to fix up a page. <a href="/wiki/User:TarkusAB" title="User:TarkusAB"><span style="color: #006400"><b>TarkusAB</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-TarkusAB-2016-06-09T10:46:00.000Z-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:46, 9 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TarkusAB-2016-06-09T10:46:00.000Z-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-06-09T10:46:00.000Z","author":"TarkusAB","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-TarkusAB-2016-06-09T10:46:00.000Z-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TarkusAB-2016-06-09T10:46:00.000Z-Smuckola-2016-06-08T23:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Thibbs-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Ready_for_mainspace?-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Thibbs-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z-Ready_for_mainspace?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Ready for mainspace?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Ready for mainspace?&quot;}--><h2 id="Ready_for_mainspace?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ready_for_mainspace?-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z"><span id="Ready_for_mainspace.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ready_for_mainspace?-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z"></span>Ready for mainspace?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ready_for_mainspace?-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Thibbs-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Ready_for_mainspace?-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Thibbs-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z-Ready_for_mainspace?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Thibbs-2016-08-07T19:23:00.000Z-Smuckola-2016-08-07T04:16:00.000Z","timestamp":"2016-08-07T19:23:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Thibbs-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Ready_for_mainspace?-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Thibbs-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z-Ready_for_mainspace?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Ready for mainspace?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Ready for mainspace?&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thibbs-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z-Ready_for_mainspace?"></span>Hi Smuckola, I've had your "History of Nintendo's online strategies" page on my watchlist for ages now... It's a very interesting read and it seems quite well sourced. If you don't mind me asking, why haven't you brought it into mainspace yet? -<a href="/wiki/User:Thibbs" title="User:Thibbs">Thibbs</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thibbs" title="User talk:Thibbs">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Thibbs-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z-Ready_for_mainspace?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:24, 5 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thibbs-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z-Ready_for_mainspace?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z","author":"Thibbs","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Thibbs-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z-Ready_for_mainspace?","replies":["c-Smuckola-2016-08-07T04:16:00.000Z-Thibbs-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thibbs-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z-Ready_for_mainspace?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2016-08-07T04:16:00.000Z-Thibbs-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Thibbs" title="User:Thibbs">Thibbs</a>:</span> I emailed you via Wikipedia's web GUI, fyi. Thank you so much. — <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2016-08-07T04:16:00.000Z-Thibbs-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:16, 7 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2016-08-07T04:16:00.000Z-Thibbs-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-07T04:16:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2016-08-07T04:16:00.000Z-Thibbs-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Thibbs-2016-08-07T19:23:00.000Z-Smuckola-2016-08-07T04:16:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2016-08-07T04:16:00.000Z-Thibbs-2016-08-05T02:24:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thibbs-2016-08-07T19:23:00.000Z-Smuckola-2016-08-07T04:16:00.000Z"></span>Cool. I'm backed up with work, but I'll check my email soon. This has been an unfortunately busy weekend for me. -<a href="/wiki/User:Thibbs" title="User:Thibbs">Thibbs</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thibbs" title="User talk:Thibbs">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Thibbs-2016-08-07T19:23:00.000Z-Smuckola-2016-08-07T04:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:23, 7 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thibbs-2016-08-07T19:23:00.000Z-Smuckola-2016-08-07T04:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-07T19:23:00.000Z","author":"Thibbs","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Thibbs-2016-08-07T19:23:00.000Z-Smuckola-2016-08-07T04:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thibbs-2016-08-07T19:23:00.000Z-Smuckola-2016-08-07T04:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Turdas-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Regarding_editor_Oranjelo100-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Turdas-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z-Regarding_editor_Oranjelo100&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Regarding editor Oranjelo100&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Regarding editor Oranjelo100&quot;}--><h2 id="Regarding_editor_Oranjelo100" data-mw-thread-id="h-Regarding_editor_Oranjelo100-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Regarding_editor_Oranjelo100-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z"></span>Regarding editor Oranjelo100<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Regarding_editor_Oranjelo100-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Turdas-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Regarding_editor_Oranjelo100-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Turdas-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z-Regarding_editor_Oranjelo100"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2017-10-12T07:16:00.000Z-Turdas-2016-08-24T13:20:00.000Z","timestamp":"2017-10-12T07:16:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Turdas-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Regarding_editor_Oranjelo100-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Turdas-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z-Regarding_editor_Oranjelo100&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Regarding editor Oranjelo100&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Regarding editor Oranjelo100&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Turdas-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z-Regarding_editor_Oranjelo100"></span>Hey, </p><p>If there's a long legacy of defiant and uncooperative stuff, that is a case for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI">WP:ANI</a>. I couldn't spot any prior ANI cases on this fellow after a quick search, although there was a Request for Comment from 2013 about pretty much the same issue we're discussing here. If three years of regular editors begging and pleading him to improve his contributions haven't caused a positive change, nothing will—and that's when it's high time for ANI to step in. </p><p>You seem to have several prior encounters with this editor, so I'm surprised you haven't gone this route already. Rest assured if you did, I would chime in with my two cents. And if you won't, then I just might. </p><p>-- <a href="/wiki/User:Turdas" title="User:Turdas"><b>turdas</b></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Turdas" title="User talk:Turdas">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Turdas-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z-Regarding_editor_Oranjelo100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 23 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Turdas-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z-Regarding_editor_Oranjelo100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z","author":"Turdas","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Turdas-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z-Regarding_editor_Oranjelo100","replies":["c-Turdas-2016-08-24T13:20:00.000Z-Turdas-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Turdas-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z-Regarding_editor_Oranjelo100"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Turdas-2016-08-24T13:20:00.000Z-Turdas-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z"></span>I ended up doing it myself. Please post your grievances with the user <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI#User:Oranjelo100" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI">here</a> if you feel so inclined.</dd> <dd>-- <a href="/wiki/User:Turdas" title="User:Turdas"><b>turdas</b></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Turdas" title="User talk:Turdas">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Turdas-2016-08-24T13:20:00.000Z-Turdas-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:20, 24 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Turdas-2016-08-24T13:20:00.000Z-Turdas-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-24T13:20:00.000Z","author":"Turdas","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Turdas-2016-08-24T13:20:00.000Z-Turdas-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Smuckola-2017-10-12T07:16:00.000Z-Turdas-2016-08-24T13:20:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Turdas-2016-08-24T13:20:00.000Z-Turdas-2016-08-23T14:57:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2017-10-12T07:16:00.000Z-Turdas-2016-08-24T13:20:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Turdas" title="User:Turdas">Turdas</a>:</span> I just looked up your grievance. I'm sorry I missed participation, but that guy is a totally moronic liar and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TEND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TEND">WP:TEND</a>. I don't think you'd have said that he could still end up being a good editor, if you had spent all those years knee-deep in his garbage content and attitude. :) He's a junkyard dog and wikipedia is his bone. But anyway, you did a good job and of course absolutely nothing came of it as always, as I can see from the abruptly ended ANI thread and from his endless disaster of a Talk page where he has unlimited quantities of warnings for every violation in the book, to which he replies "<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ICANTHEARYOU" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ICANTHEARYOU">WP:ICANTHEARYOU</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTGETTINGIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTGETTINGIT">WP:NOTGETTINGIT</a>" or a flame. He can't be corrected or taught. You did such a good job, and what a total waste of our time. And this is exactly how Jimbo and friends want it--the encyclopedia literally absolutely anyone can edit, with no qualifications or even reputation. You and I are regarded no differently than him, total anarchy. — <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2017-10-12T07:16:00.000Z-Turdas-2016-08-24T13:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:16, 12 October 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2017-10-12T07:16:00.000Z-Turdas-2016-08-24T13:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-10-12T07:16:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Smuckola-2017-10-12T07:16:00.000Z-Turdas-2016-08-24T13:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2017-10-12T07:16:00.000Z-Turdas-2016-08-24T13:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-71.236.191.197-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Reverts_on_Template:MOS_CPU_&amp;_Nintendo_S-SMP-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-71.236.191.197-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z-Reverts_on_Template:MOS_CPU_&amp;_Nintendo_S-SMP&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Reverts on Template:MOS CPU &amp; Nintendo S-SMP \u200e&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Reverts on Template:MOS CPU &amp; Nintendo S-SMP&quot;}--><h2 id="Reverts_on_Template:MOS_CPU_&amp;_Nintendo_S-SMP" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reverts_on_Template:MOS_CPU_&amp;_Nintendo_S-SMP-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z"><span id="Reverts_on_Template:MOS_CPU_.26_Nintendo_S-SMP"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reverts_on_Template:MOS_CPU_&amp;_Nintendo_S-SMP-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z"></span>Reverts on Template:MOS CPU &amp; Nintendo S-SMP ‎<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reverts_on_Template:MOS_CPU_&amp;_Nintendo_S-SMP-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-71.236.191.197-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Reverts_on_Template:MOS_CPU_&amp;_Nintendo_S-SMP-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-71.236.191.197-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z-Reverts_on_Template:MOS_CPU_&amp;_Nintendo_S-SMP"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-71.236.191.197-2017-11-29T11:22:00.000Z-Smuckola-2017-11-29T08:06:00.000Z","timestamp":"2017-11-29T11:22:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-71.236.191.197-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Reverts_on_Template:MOS_CPU_&amp;_Nintendo_S-SMP-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-71.236.191.197-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z-Reverts_on_Template:MOS_CPU_&amp;_Nintendo_S-SMP&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Reverts on Template:MOS CPU &amp; Nintendo S-SMP \u200e&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Reverts on Template:MOS CPU &amp; Nintendo S-SMP&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-71.236.191.197-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z-Reverts_on_Template:MOS_CPU_&amp;_Nintendo_S-SMP"></span>Hello Smuckola. As you're the one who did the reverts, I'll ask you to back them up with fact. You state the part is not based on the MOS 65xx design. You also state the <a href="/wiki/Nintendo_S-SMP" class="mw-redirect" title="Nintendo S-SMP">Nintendo S-SMP</a> wiki article does not say it is. For the latter, here is the text from the wiki article: </p><p>"<i>The Sony SPC700 is the S-SMP's integrated 8-bit processing core manufactured by Sony with an instruction set similar to that of the MOS Technology 6502 (as used in the Commodore 1541 diskette drive and the Vic 20, Apple II, BBC Micro and in modified form in the original NES).</i>" AND "<i>The SPC700 instruction set is quite similar to that of the 6502 microprocessor family, but includes additional instructions, including XCN (eXChange Nibble), which swaps the upper and lower 4-bit portions of the 8-bit accumulator, and an 8-by-8-to-16-bit multiply instruction.</i>" </p><p>This should even state, "VERY similar". As for the former, I'm certainly not the only person who has worked on coding for the part, either on the original h/w or in the emulation world. It's a 65xx down to 90% of the same op-code set. A quick web search shows others talking about this: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://forums.nesdev.com/viewtopic.php?t=10986&amp;p=125236">https://forums.nesdev.com/viewtopic.php?t=10986&amp;p=125236</a> </p><p>Sure, Sony changed the naming of the opcodes (LDx => MOV x, etc.) and the decode table, but the chip functions the same at the core. Cycles per opcode, interrupt processing, status register. </p><p>So, please let me know where your expertise to refute (and revert) this comes from. Thanks, we're both working to make these articles &amp; templates complete &amp; correct. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.236.191.197" title="Special:Contributions/71.236.191.197">71.236.191.197</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:71.236.191.197" title="User talk:71.236.191.197">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-71.236.191.197-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z-Reverts_on_Template:MOS_CPU_&amp;_Nintendo_S-SMP" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:19, 27 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-71.236.191.197-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z-Reverts_on_Template:MOS_CPU_&amp;_Nintendo_S-SMP"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z","author":"71.236.191.197","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-71.236.191.197-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z-Reverts_on_Template:MOS_CPU_&amp;_Nintendo_S-SMP","replies":["c-Smuckola-2017-11-29T08:06:00.000Z-71.236.191.197-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-71.236.191.197-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z-Reverts_on_Template:MOS_CPU_&amp;_Nintendo_S-SMP"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2017-11-29T08:06:00.000Z-71.236.191.197-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z"></span>This is not how an encyclopedia works. Nobody needs any expertise at all beyond comprehension of an encyclopedia, to delete any statements that fail <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a>. The burden is 0% on me and 100% on you to present a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">WP:V</a>. Not a forum, not an anecdote, not strong opinion. Anything else is disruptive editing. Sorry. — <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2017-11-29T08:06:00.000Z-71.236.191.197-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:06, 29 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2017-11-29T08:06:00.000Z-71.236.191.197-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-11-29T08:06:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2017-11-29T08:06:00.000Z-71.236.191.197-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-71.236.191.197-2017-11-29T11:22:00.000Z-Smuckola-2017-11-29T08:06:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2017-11-29T08:06:00.000Z-71.236.191.197-2017-11-27T12:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-71.236.191.197-2017-11-29T11:22:00.000Z-Smuckola-2017-11-29T08:06:00.000Z"></span>Hello Smuckola. Okay, though the encyclopedia will suffer in many areas such as these esoteric chips where there are usually no true <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">WP:V</a> reference materials such as articles or books. Many of the articles in this area just don't have, nor will have, these sources. Yes, it's the letter-of-the-law but you'll have quite a task redacting all the non-<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">WP:V</a> in this area, such as at <i><a href="/wiki/Category:65xx_microprocessors" title="Category:65xx microprocessors">Category:65xx microprocessors</a></i>. Now if you feel this category is meant to be only "65xx" named microprocessors, these others (<a href="/wiki/Hudson_Soft_HuC6280" title="Hudson Soft HuC6280">Hudson Soft HuC6280</a> <a href="/wiki/Mitsubishi_740" title="Mitsubishi 740">Mitsubishi 740</a> <a href="/wiki/Nintendo_SA-1" class="mw-redirect" title="Nintendo SA-1">Nintendo SA-1</a> <a href="/wiki/Renesas_740" class="mw-redirect" title="Renesas 740">Renesas 740</a> <a href="/wiki/Ricoh_2A03" title="Ricoh 2A03">Ricoh 2A03</a> <a href="/wiki/Ricoh_5A22" title="Ricoh 5A22">Ricoh 5A22</a>) should certainly not be there, correct? But the category itself states "as well as compatible 8/16-bit developments of the architecture by other companies." <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.236.191.197" title="Special:Contributions/71.236.191.197">71.236.191.197</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:71.236.191.197" title="User talk:71.236.191.197">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-71.236.191.197-2017-11-29T11:22:00.000Z-Smuckola-2017-11-29T08:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:22, 29 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-71.236.191.197-2017-11-29T11:22:00.000Z-Smuckola-2017-11-29T08:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-11-29T11:22:00.000Z","author":"71.236.191.197","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-71.236.191.197-2017-11-29T11:22:00.000Z-Smuckola-2017-11-29T08:06:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-71.236.191.197-2017-11-29T11:22:00.000Z-Smuckola-2017-11-29T08:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Martin_IIIa-2018-01-02T01:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-64DD_article-2018-01-02T01:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-2018-01-02T01:59:00.000Z-64DD_article&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;64DD article&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;64DD article&quot;}--><h2 id="64DD_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-64DD_article-2018-01-02T01:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-64DD_article-2018-01-02T01:59:00.000Z"></span>64DD article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-64DD_article-2018-01-02T01:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Martin_IIIa-2018-01-02T01:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-64DD_article-2018-01-02T01:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martin_IIIa-2018-01-02T01:59:00.000Z-64DD_article"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Martin_IIIa-2018-01-02T01:59:00.000Z-64DD_article","timestamp":"2018-01-02T01:59:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Martin_IIIa-2018-01-02T01:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-64DD_article-2018-01-02T01:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-2018-01-02T01:59:00.000Z-64DD_article&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;64DD article&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;64DD article&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martin_IIIa-2018-01-02T01:59:00.000Z-64DD_article"></span>I found a full page article on the 64DD in the December 1996 issue of <i>Next Generation</i>. Unfortunately, I don't know what to do with the info within - for instance, some of the specs don't match up with what's listed in Wikipedia, and I'm not sure what to make of the discrepancy (an error on either Wikipedia or Next Gen's part? a change in the specs prior to release? none of the above?). Since you've been working on the 64DD subject I hope you might have a better idea what to do with this. Here's a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://archive.org/stream/NextGeneration24Dec1996/Next_Generation_24_Dec_1996#page/n19/mode/2up">link to the archive dot org scan of the article</a>.--<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_IIIa" title="User talk:Martin IIIa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Martin_IIIa-2018-01-02T01:59:00.000Z-64DD_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:59, 2 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martin_IIIa-2018-01-02T01:59:00.000Z-64DD_article"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-01-02T01:59:00.000Z","author":"Martin IIIa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martin_IIIa-2018-01-02T01:59:00.000Z-64DD_article","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martin_IIIa-2018-01-02T01:59:00.000Z-64DD_article"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sjones23-2018-01-28T06:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Robin_Williams_GA\/FA?-2018-01-28T06:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sjones23-2018-01-28T06:25:00.000Z-Robin_Williams_GA\/FA?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Robin Williams GA\/FA?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Robin Williams GA\/FA?&quot;}--><h2 id="Robin_Williams_GA/FA?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Robin_Williams_GA/FA?-2018-01-28T06:25:00.000Z"><span id="Robin_Williams_GA.2FFA.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Robin_Williams_GA/FA?-2018-01-28T06:25:00.000Z"></span>Robin Williams GA/FA?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Robin_Williams_GA/FA?-2018-01-28T06:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sjones23-2018-01-28T06:25:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Robin_Williams_GA\/FA?-2018-01-28T06:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sjones23-2018-01-28T06:25:00.000Z-Robin_Williams_GA\/FA?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Sjones23-2018-01-28T06:25:00.000Z-Robin_Williams_GA\/FA?","timestamp":"2018-01-28T06:25:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sjones23-2018-01-28T06:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Robin_Williams_GA\/FA?-2018-01-28T06:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sjones23-2018-01-28T06:25:00.000Z-Robin_Williams_GA\/FA?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Robin Williams GA\/FA?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Robin Williams GA\/FA?&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sjones23-2018-01-28T06:25:00.000Z-Robin_Williams_GA/FA?"></span>Hey there. Given my interest in <a href="/wiki/Robin_Williams" title="Robin Williams">Robin Williams</a>, I'm thinking if we should join forces to get the article up for a potential GA (and eventually an FA), using <a href="/wiki/Phil_Hartman" title="Phil Hartman">Phil Hartman</a> and <a href="/wiki/Katharine_Hepburn" title="Katharine Hepburn">Katharine Hepburn</a>, both FAs, as possible models. Eventually, if the Williams article does go to FA, it can be featured as a TFA on either July 21 (the 67th anniversary of his birth) or August 11 (the 4th anniversary of his death). However, I think this article may need to have a look at some issues such as date formats and so forth. Also, one of my concerns on the article is that the biography and career sections might look a bit disjointed in different places; those may have to be organized chronologically by years. Can you please let me know what your thoughts are about this? Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Sjones23" title="User:Sjones23">Lord Sjones23</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sjones23" title="User talk:Sjones23">talk</a> - <a href="/wiki/User:Sjones23/Wikipedia_contributions" title="User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions">contributions</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Sjones23-2018-01-28T06:25:00.000Z-Robin_Williams_GA/FA?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:25, 28 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sjones23-2018-01-28T06:25:00.000Z-Robin_Williams_GA/FA?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-thread-id="h-A_goat_for_you!-2018-03-31T05:48:00.000Z"><span id="A_goat_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_goat_for_you!-2018-03-31T05:48:00.000Z"></span>A goat for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_goat_for_you!-2018-03-31T05:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-JSFarman-2018-03-31T05:48:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_goat_for_you!-2018-03-31T05:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-JSFarman-2018-03-31T05:48:00.000Z-A_goat_for_you!"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-JSFarman-2018-03-31T05:48:00.000Z-A_goat_for_you!","timestamp":"2018-03-31T05:48:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-JSFarman-2018-03-31T05:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_goat_for_you!-2018-03-31T05:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-JSFarman-2018-03-31T05:48:00.000Z-A_goat_for_you!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A goat for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A goat for you!&quot;}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JSFarman-2018-03-31T05:48:00.000Z-A_goat_for_you!"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Boer_Goat_(8742860752).jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/Boer_Goat_%288742860752%29.jpg/150px-Boer_Goat_%288742860752%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="150" height="128" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/Boer_Goat_%288742860752%29.jpg/225px-Boer_Goat_%288742860752%29.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/Boer_Goat_%288742860752%29.jpg/300px-Boer_Goat_%288742860752%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3260" data-file-height="2785"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Because sometimes you just need a goat. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:JSFarman" title="User:JSFarman">JSFarman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JSFarman" title="User talk:JSFarman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-JSFarman-2018-03-31T05:48:00.000Z-A_goat_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:48, 31 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JSFarman-2018-03-31T05:48:00.000Z-A_goat_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" 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data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-SimTunes-2018-05-20T16:56:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/SimTunes" title="SimTunes">SimTunes</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-SimTunes-2018-05-20T16:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Canadian_Paul-2018-05-20T16:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-SimTunes-2018-05-20T16:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Canadian_Paul-2018-05-20T16:56:00.000Z-SimTunes"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2018-06-03T07:02:00.000Z-Canadian_Paul-2018-05-20T16:56:00.000Z","timestamp":"2018-06-03T07:02:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Canadian_Paul-2018-05-20T16:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-SimTunes-2018-05-20T16:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Canadian_Paul-2018-05-20T16:56:00.000Z-SimTunes&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;SimTunes&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;SimTunes&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Canadian_Paul-2018-05-20T16:56:00.000Z-SimTunes"></span>Hi Smuckola. Normally I don't spend too much time concerning myself about article class ratings, but in the case of <a href="/wiki/SimTunes" title="SimTunes">SimTunes</a>, I really don't see this as being anything more than a stub. Aside from just visually looking like a stub, it fails both the objective measurements at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:STUB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:STUB">WP:STUB</a> (less than 250 words and 1500 characters) and the suggested <a href="/wiki/User:Grutness/Croughton-London_rule_of_stubs" title="User:Grutness/Croughton-London rule of stubs">Croughton-London rule of stubs</a>. Furthermore, comparing it to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Assessment" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Assessment">WP:VG</a>'s example for a <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mario_Kart_Arcade_GP_2&amp;oldid=229542335">stub</a> versus a <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Age_of_Empires_III:_The_WarChiefs&amp;oldid=227359410">start</a>, I think it's clear that, by the project's standards, this article should be considered a stub. Thoughts? <a href="/wiki/User:Canadian_Paul" title="User:Canadian Paul"><span style="color:red">Canadian</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Canadian_Paul" title="User talk:Canadian Paul"><span style="color:orange">Paul</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Canadian_Paul-2018-05-20T16:56:00.000Z-SimTunes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:56, 20 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Canadian_Paul-2018-05-20T16:56:00.000Z-SimTunes"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-20T16:56:00.000Z","author":"Canadian Paul","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Canadian_Paul-2018-05-20T16:56:00.000Z-SimTunes","replies":["c-Smuckola-2018-06-03T07:02:00.000Z-Canadian_Paul-2018-05-20T16:56:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Canadian"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Canadian_Paul-2018-05-20T16:56:00.000Z-SimTunes"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2018-06-03T07:02:00.000Z-Canadian_Paul-2018-05-20T16:56:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Canadian_Paul" title="User:Canadian Paul">Canadian Paul</a>:</span> Hi. Aside from the fact that, as you said, none of this matters at all...You have mostly misunderstood and overstated the concept of a stub, and misattributed all your own stated criteria. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:STUB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:STUB">WP:STUB</a> is a rambling and mostly pointless mess, but among its non-statements, it does clearly state that there are no objective measurements at all. That's a statement which you contradicted in citing it. It specifically disclaims what you just misattributed, where it states that 250 words is not a valid measurement and that 1500 characters is not a valid measurement. The only reason it stated them is to disclaim them. Its whole point is to say size doesn't matter. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Assessment" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Assessment">WP:VG's assessment criteria</a> of the "start" category quite explicitly describes the current state of this article.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>The concept of a stub is where an editor may not even be totally sure whether it can be expanded, possibly has no RSes, or it hasn't been properly formatted with all the templates and sections and such. It's to say "this should probably become an article" or "here's the placeholder for what could become an article and hopefully won't be deleted". The concept of a 'start' type is where we cross the line of having ascertained all those things. The 'start' concept is that now we're totally sure we have started what could become at least a C class article. I assumed that this article can be expanded quite a bit more as I did on its abundantly notable precursor <a href="/wiki/Sound_Fantasy" title="Sound Fantasy">Sound Fantasy</a>. That's an assumption by me regarding the availability of reliable sources because I read so much mention of SimTunes in the course of researching Sound Fantasy.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>As you initially said, it's not something to spend any time on. There was no reason for you to have done so. I had first seen your report and was mildly interested, assuming that such pedantic verbosity about such minutea would surely lead me to revisit some long faded knowledge of the very basics and that I'd relearn something. But what you did is totally wrong by your own stated standards. Also, you should drop the casting of aspersions on people's behaviors by trying to analyze and provide commentary about my ability to chitchat with you on demand via my phone in the course of a given week. Particularly about such a total waste of my time -- unless you meant to be asking me to teach you the basics, which I'm happy to do. So feel free to revert yourself. Have a good day. — <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2018-06-03T07:02:00.000Z-Canadian_Paul-2018-05-20T16:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:02, 3 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2018-06-03T07:02:00.000Z-Canadian_Paul-2018-05-20T16:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-03T07:02:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2018-06-03T07:02:00.000Z-Canadian_Paul-2018-05-20T16:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2018-06-03T07:02:00.000Z-Canadian_Paul-2018-05-20T16:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Carptrash-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-When_someone_thanks_me-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Carptrash-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z-When_someone_thanks_me&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;When someone thanks me&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;When someone thanks me&quot;}--><h2 id="When_someone_thanks_me" data-mw-thread-id="h-When_someone_thanks_me-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-When_someone_thanks_me-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z"></span>When someone thanks me<span data-mw-comment-end="h-When_someone_thanks_me-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Carptrash-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-When_someone_thanks_me-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Carptrash-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z-When_someone_thanks_me"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:45:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:41:00.000Z","timestamp":"2018-06-04T01:45:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__10__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Carptrash-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-When_someone_thanks_me-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Carptrash-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z-When_someone_thanks_me&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;When someone thanks me&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;When someone thanks me&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carptrash-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z-When_someone_thanks_me"></span>for an edit (as you recently did at <a href="/wiki/Masonic_Temple_(Salina,_Kansas)" title="Masonic Temple (Salina, Kansas)">Masonic Temple (Salina, Kansas)</a>) I usually go to their user page to find out who they are. I have several reactions to my visit to yours. (1) Looking at your articles created I discover a lot of percussionists, leading me to wonder if you are one, because I am, and (2) the one that really got me to write to you is that you have committed one of what I consider to be the most grievous of writing faults, you have used the same interesting word not only twice in a paragraph, but twice in the same sentence. English is a wonderful language offering those who use it numerous choices of words, so I strongly urge you to consider changing the second “blatant” in the sentence to “flagrant” or something else. And remember the adage, ‘no good deed with go unpunished.” Einar aka <a href="/wiki/User:Carptrash" title="User:Carptrash">Carptrash</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carptrash" title="User talk:Carptrash">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Carptrash-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z-When_someone_thanks_me" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:06, 25 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carptrash-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z-When_someone_thanks_me"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z","author":"Carptrash","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Carptrash-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z-When_someone_thanks_me","replies":["c-Smuckola-2018-06-03T07:17:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carptrash-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z-When_someone_thanks_me"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2018-06-03T07:17:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Carptrash" title="User:Carptrash">Carptrash</a>:</span> Le gasp!!! 1) I'm a percussionist! I've studied for years under the mighty mighty Markovich and his students! So thankfully, I know how to shop for and hold sticks now. I know how to hold my nose high. I'm proud of you for being one too. 2) That's not quite the most grievous! The much more grievous though not MOST grievous of all, is when you added an unformatted citation to a digital encyclopedia. Yeah it would have been worse to have no citation -- but is it worse for YOU? Consider the fact that you know better. Hmmmm...??! You know what century this is, and it's not dead trees? Okay now that I have amended my user page in grateful appeasement of the Carptrash, you shall get back to that Masonic Temple and use a {{cite book}} and everything else. I would have done it and then spanked your top hat with it, but I wasn't sure what was the first and last names in your random formatting. Okay I'll try. You check it.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Would you believe that Google Images claims that 2.5 million people have looked at my photo of the Masonic Temple, the same photo you see in that article? I don't think even that many bots are interested. — <span class="small caps" style="font-variant:small-caps;"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2018-06-03T07:17:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:17, 3 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2018-06-03T07:17:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-03T07:17:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2018-06-03T07:17:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Carptrash-2018-06-03T15:05:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-03T07:17:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2018-06-03T07:17:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-05-25T20:06:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carptrash-2018-06-03T15:05:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-03T07:17:00.000Z"></span>2.5 million is a lot. How did you come by that number? I would guess that my most looked at picture would be <a href="/wiki/File:JMR-Memphis1.jpg" title="File:JMR-Memphis1.jpg">File:JMR-Memphis1.jpg</a>, but who knows, other than it's not going to be two million. Hmmmm? I did that citation the way I always do them so I don't know better. And am a slow learner. But am considering taking a road trip to <a href="/wiki/Wickenburg,_Arizona" title="Wickenburg, Arizona">Wickenburg, Arizona</a> to take a picture of the Masonic Temple there, the only AZ one not pictured. And the beat goes on. <a href="/wiki/User:Carptrash" title="User:Carptrash">Carptrash</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carptrash" title="User talk:Carptrash">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Carptrash-2018-06-03T15:05:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-03T07:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 3 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carptrash-2018-06-03T15:05:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-03T07:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-03T15:05:00.000Z","author":"Carptrash","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Carptrash-2018-06-03T15:05:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-03T07:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Smuckola-2018-06-03T18:52:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-03T15:05:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carptrash-2018-06-03T15:05:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-03T07:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2018-06-03T18:52:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-03T15:05:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Carptrash" title="User:Carptrash">Carptrash</a>:</span> Wowowow. I used to live near Tucson, and I met Mitch at his house near Phoenix. There are some things I miss about that area but not about actually living in a desert where only the javelina and Tohono O'Odham are aupposed to live. I miss winning at the casinos. I would help you with some articles if you can possibly tear yourself away from your beloved sockpuppeting hobby lol. So I guess you like the Masonics. I would like to know more of the history of this monument to the historical local small time white power boys' club. I haven't cared enough to research it unless I found someone else who did. I uploaded the photo both to Wikipedia and to Google maps, and Google periodically emails me the alleged viewing statistics. — <span class="small caps" style="font-variant:small-caps;"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2018-06-03T18:52:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-03T15:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:52, 3 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2018-06-03T18:52:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-03T15:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-03T18:52:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Smuckola-2018-06-03T18:52:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-03T15:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T00:54:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-03T18:52:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2018-06-03T18:52:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-03T15:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T00:54:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-03T18:52:00.000Z"></span>Okay, I'm sort of in a bad mood, but . . . ... But I drove maybe 45 miles (more in km) to Wikenburg and spent 2 hours wandering around in a 110ᵒ (less in centigrade) cloudless town and the best that I could discover (It is Sunday so my official options were limited) was that it - the Masonic Hall - was demolished to make way for the new city hall, community center complex. Put another way, no picture. Then 45 miles home. Now I get to figure out how to include this very <a href="/wiki/Original_research" class="mw-redirect" title="Original research">original research</a> into wikipedia. I don't care much about the Masons other than the mason tradition is building - that's what masons traditionally are - so they have some very interesting buildings around the USA., and likely the world. <a href="/wiki/User:Carptrash" title="User:Carptrash">Carptrash</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carptrash" title="User talk:Carptrash">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T00:54:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-03T18:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:54, 4 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T00:54:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-03T18:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-04T00:54:00.000Z","author":"Carptrash","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T00:54:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-03T18:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:02:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-04T00:54:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T00:54:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-03T18:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:02:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-04T00:54:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Carptrash" title="User:Carptrash">Carptrash</a>:</span> But it's a dryyyyyy heat...! lol You're wanting to mention that it was demolished? You should google it, looking for local newspaper articles. If you can't easily find anything, you can email the newspaper or the city government or the public library and ask them to check. Yeah I'm interested in ye olden masonic history, back when it was good for anything. Usually Knights Templar sorta stuff on up to the construction using sacred geometry and the founding of America. Back when they knew how to make a building out of *real* marble rather than being concrete clad in a veneer that fell apart after two years. Before it became the fat ol' white guys' club. — <span class="small caps" style="font-variant:small-caps;"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:02:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-04T00:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:02, 4 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:02:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-04T00:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-04T01:02:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:02:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-04T00:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:11:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:02:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:02:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-04T00:54:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:11:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:02:00.000Z"></span>F that "dry heat" crap. I am still soaking wet and I've been home for several hours and several beers.. For a good, though somewhat plodding book on this stuff check out <i>The Secret Architecture of our Nation's Capital</i> by David Ovason. While I don't agree with everything he says (I checked out some of his star map claims and it did not work out,) there is a lot in the book and while I can go "poo poo" to 20% of it that still leave a lot."Mitch"?? <a href="/wiki/User:Carptrash" title="User:Carptrash">Carptrash</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carptrash" title="User talk:Carptrash">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:11:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:11, 4 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:11:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-04T01:11:00.000Z","author":"Carptrash","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:11:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:38:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:11:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:11:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:38:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:11:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Carptrash" title="User:Carptrash">Carptrash</a>:</span>Yeah you're right, you definitely should have stuck with centigrade, much much lower. Treat yourself! That's cool, I like the tv series <a href="/wiki/America_Unearthed" title="America Unearthed">America Unearthed</a> and <a href="/wiki/The_Curse_of_Oak_Island" title="The Curse of Oak Island">The Curse of Oak Island</a>. I guess youve already hit "crown time" for the day. Yeah, <a href="/wiki/Mitch_Markovich" title="Mitch Markovich">Mitch Markovich</a> lives near you. — <span class="small caps" style="font-variant:small-caps;"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:38:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:38, 4 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:38:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-04T01:38:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:38:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:41:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:38:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:38:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:11:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:41:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:38:00.000Z"></span>I don't have TV (except to watch DVDs on) but will check out Mitch. <a href="/wiki/User:Carptrash" title="User:Carptrash">Carptrash</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carptrash" title="User talk:Carptrash">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:41:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:41, 4 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:41:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-04T01:41:00.000Z","author":"Carptrash","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:41:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:45:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:41:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:41:00.000Z-Smuckola-2018-06-04T01:38:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:45:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:41:00.000Z"></span>You know the old joke,(Q) What do you call someone who like to hang out with musicians?" (A) a drummer. Or (Q) How do you get the drummer to be quite? (A) Put some music in front of him. That's me. Although I've been doing it for 50 years my rudiments are non existent. Mitch, I feel, would not approve. <a href="/wiki/User:Carptrash" title="User:Carptrash">Carptrash</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Carptrash" title="User talk:Carptrash">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:45:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:45, 4 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:45:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-04T01:45:00.000Z","author":"Carptrash","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:45:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:45:00.000Z-Carptrash-2018-06-04T01:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Martin_IIIa-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Four-player_robot_game-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z-Four-player_robot_game&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Four-player robot game&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Four-player robot game&quot;}--><h2 id="Four-player_robot_game" data-mw-thread-id="h-Four-player_robot_game-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Four-player_robot_game-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z"></span>Four-player robot game<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Four-player_robot_game-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Martin_IIIa-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Four-player_robot_game-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martin_IIIa-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z-Four-player_robot_game"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2018-06-07T03:02:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z","timestamp":"2018-06-07T03:02:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Martin_IIIa-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Four-player_robot_game-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z-Four-player_robot_game&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Four-player robot game&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Four-player robot game&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martin_IIIa-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z-Four-player_robot_game"></span>I just ran into this statement from Shigeru Miyamoto in the March 1997 issue of GamePro: "It would be fun to have four people make one robot walk. Each player would be in charge of one limb, so that the timing of all the players must be in sync in order to, say, make the robot jump." Do you know if this idea ever turned into an actual game (with a corresponding Wikipedia article that I could add this quote to)?--<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_IIIa" title="User talk:Martin IIIa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Martin_IIIa-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z-Four-player_robot_game" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:37, 7 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martin_IIIa-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z-Four-player_robot_game"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z","author":"Martin IIIa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martin_IIIa-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z-Four-player_robot_game","replies":["c-Smuckola-2018-06-07T03:02:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martin_IIIa-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z-Four-player_robot_game"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2018-06-07T03:02:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a>:</span> Hey there bro. I googled for something like "four player robot game miyamoto" and I found <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://kotaku.com/that-nintendo-labo-robot-game-looks-awfully-familiar-1822176412">this</a> which I'd never heard of before. Check that and the articles that are hyperlinked in the prose there. It looks like Project Giant Robot may have become the Labo robot. But I don't know anything else at all. — <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2018-06-07T03:02:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:02, 7 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2018-06-07T03:02:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-07T03:02:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2018-06-07T03:02:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2018-06-07T03:02:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2018-06-07T01:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Martin_IIIa-2018-08-22T03:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team-2018-08-22T03:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-2018-08-22T03:03:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team&quot;,&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-2018-09-24T23:56:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team&quot;,&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-2018-11-07T19:43:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Nintendo 64 Dream Team&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Nintendo 64 Dream Team&quot;}--><h2 id="Nintendo_64_Dream_Team" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team-2018-08-22T03:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team-2018-08-22T03:03:00.000Z"></span>Nintendo 64 Dream Team<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team-2018-08-22T03:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Martin_IIIa-2018-08-22T03:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team-2018-08-22T03:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martin_IIIa-2018-08-22T03:03:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team","c-Martin_IIIa-2018-09-24T23:56:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team","c-Martin_IIIa-2018-11-07T19:43:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2018-11-07T21:18:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2018-11-07T19:43:00.000Z","timestamp":"2018-11-07T21:18:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Martin_IIIa-2018-08-22T03:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team-2018-08-22T03:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-2018-08-22T03:03:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team&quot;,&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-2018-09-24T23:56:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team&quot;,&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-2018-11-07T19:43:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Nintendo 64 Dream Team&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Nintendo 64 Dream Team&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martin_IIIa-2018-08-22T03:03:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team"></span>Some months ago you were asking me about reception to the Nintendo 64 "Dream Team" lineup. I just stumbled upon a couple of paragraphs on the subject in the May 1997 issue of Next Generation, page 41. Here's a link: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://archive.org/stream/NEXT_Generation_29#page/n41">[3]</a>.--<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_IIIa" title="User talk:Martin IIIa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Martin_IIIa-2018-08-22T03:03:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:03, 22 August 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martin_IIIa-2018-08-22T03:03:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-22T03:03:00.000Z","author":"Martin IIIa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martin_IIIa-2018-08-22T03:03:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martin_IIIa-2018-08-22T03:03:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martin_IIIa-2018-09-24T23:56:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team"></span>In a sort of "Dream Team" vein, I found an interesting tidbit about Electronic Arts' involvement with the Nintendo 64 in <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://archive.org/stream/NextGeneration30Jun1997/Next_Generation_30_Jun_1997#page/n19">the June 1997 issue of Next Generation, page 19</a>. I've already added it to <a href="/wiki/FIFA_Soccer_64" title="FIFA Soccer 64">FIFA Soccer 64</a>, but I wasn't sure if it was significant enough to be of use in any other article, so I figured I'd pass it on to you.--<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_IIIa" title="User talk:Martin IIIa">talk</a>) 23:56, 24 September 2018 (UTC) ...also, they have more on the subject on page 30 of the same magazine, under the headline "Friends at Last".--<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_IIIa" title="User talk:Martin IIIa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Martin_IIIa-2018-09-24T23:56:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:39, 25 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martin_IIIa-2018-09-24T23:56:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-24T23:56:00.000Z","author":"Martin IIIa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martin_IIIa-2018-09-24T23:56:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martin_IIIa-2018-09-24T23:56:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martin_IIIa-2018-11-07T19:43:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team"></span>Unfortunately I can't find a link to scans of it, but on the same page as the EGM article I just added as a citation to <a href="/wiki/64DD" title="64DD">64DD</a>, there's an article called "SingleTrac Joins 'Dream Team'". The relevance should be obvious from that title. :) --<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_IIIa" title="User talk:Martin IIIa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Martin_IIIa-2018-11-07T19:43:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:43, 7 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martin_IIIa-2018-11-07T19:43:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-07T19:43:00.000Z","author":"Martin IIIa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martin_IIIa-2018-11-07T19:43:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team","replies":["c-Smuckola-2018-11-07T21:18:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2018-11-07T19:43:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martin_IIIa-2018-11-07T19:43:00.000Z-Nintendo_64_Dream_Team"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2018-11-07T21:18:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2018-11-07T19:43:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a>:</span> Whaaaaat? A Dream Team member I've never heard of?! Man they must have really messed the bed if they got that far and failed to make a single release for years. Wow. And were never named in any Dream Team lists I've ever seen, including articles detailing the background of the Dream Team. I've heard of Twisted Metal but not the company. I hope <a href="/wiki/Nintendo_64" title="Nintendo 64">Nintendo 64</a> would be a comprehensive list of sources if any reader or researcher ever wants to rediscover the Dream Team. So I want to see that article someday :D Thank you sir. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2018-11-07T21:18:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2018-11-07T19:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:18, 7 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2018-11-07T21:18:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2018-11-07T19:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-07T21:18:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2018-11-07T21:18:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2018-11-07T19:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2018-11-07T21:18:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2018-11-07T19:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-DarTar-2018-11-19T00:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-WikiCite-2018-11-19T00:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-DarTar-2018-11-19T00:36:00.000Z-WikiCite&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;WikiCite&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;WikiCite&quot;}--><h2 id="WikiCite" data-mw-thread-id="h-WikiCite-2018-11-19T00:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WikiCite-2018-11-19T00:36:00.000Z"></span>WikiCite<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WikiCite-2018-11-19T00:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DarTar-2018-11-19T00:36:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-WikiCite-2018-11-19T00:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-DarTar-2018-11-19T00:36:00.000Z-WikiCite"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-DarTar-2018-11-19T00:36:00.000Z-WikiCite","timestamp":"2018-11-19T00:36:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-DarTar-2018-11-19T00:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-WikiCite-2018-11-19T00:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-DarTar-2018-11-19T00:36:00.000Z-WikiCite&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;WikiCite&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;WikiCite&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DarTar-2018-11-19T00:36:00.000Z-WikiCite"></span>Hello! <a href="/wiki/User:Quiddity" title="User:Quiddity">Quiddity</a> relayed to me a question you posted in the WikiCite IRC Channel (which I was not monitoring), I hope you'll find the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiCite" class="extiw" title="m:WikiCite">WikiCite</a> project interesting. It's an initiative aiming to create a structured repository of sources in Wikidata. We're aiming to create a rich, collaboratively curated <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Source_MetaData" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Wikidata:WikiProject Source MetaData">database of bibliographic metadata</a>, including <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Wikipedia_Sources" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Wikidata:WikiProject Wikipedia Sources">everything that's cited in Wikipedia</a>, but also to support <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiCite/Roadmap" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Wikidata:WikiCite/Roadmap">many other use cases</a>. The goal is not to replace Citation templates and references: we're currently looking at ways in which we can curate bibliographic metadata in a centralized way, as a precondition for making reference management in Wikimedia projects suck less. The <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikiCite_2017_report.pdf" class="extiw" title="c:File:WikiCite 2017 report.pdf">annual report</a> we published last year should give you a sense of where the community is going, and we have the next annual event (WikiCite 2018) coming up in 10 days. Last but not least, there's a mailing list (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://groups.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/d/forum/wikicite-discuss">wikicite-discuss</a>) you can join if you want to learn more about the project or bring up any question or concern. --<a href="/wiki/User:DarTar" title="User:DarTar">DarTar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DarTar" title="User talk:DarTar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-DarTar-2018-11-19T00:36:00.000Z-WikiCite" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:36, 19 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DarTar-2018-11-19T00:36:00.000Z-WikiCite"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-19T00:36:00.000Z","author":"DarTar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DarTar-2018-11-19T00:36:00.000Z-WikiCite","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DarTar-2018-11-19T00:36:00.000Z-WikiCite"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Bishonen-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thank_you-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Bishonen-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z-Thank_you&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thank you&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thank you&quot;}--><h2 id="Thank_you" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thank_you-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thank_you-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z"></span>Thank you<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thank_you-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Bishonen-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Thank_you-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bishonen-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z-Thank_you"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-Bishonen-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Bishonen-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thank_you-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Bishonen-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z-Thank_you&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thank you&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thank you&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bishonen-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z-Thank_you"></span>Good cleanup at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Bernie_Sanders" title="Talk:Bernie Sanders">Talk:Bernie Sanders</a>! <a href="/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Bishonen-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z-Thank_you" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:03, 26 January 2019 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bishonen-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z-Thank_you"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z","author":"Bishonen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bishonen-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z-Thank_you","replies":["c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-Bishonen-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bishonen-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z-Thank_you"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-Bishonen-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a>:</span> Thank you so much! I try to stay out of politics on Wikipedia but I'll wikignome the heck out of a good cause! :D Thank you for saying so, and I love using that 'thank' button too. :) — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-Bishonen-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:31, 6 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-Bishonen-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-Bishonen-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-Bishonen-2019-01-26T22:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-IFS_-_Depression_research-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z-IFS_-_Depression_research&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;IFS - Depression research&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;IFS - Depression research&quot;}--><h2 id="IFS_-_Depression_research" data-mw-thread-id="h-IFS_-_Depression_research-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-IFS_-_Depression_research-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z"></span>IFS - Depression research<span data-mw-comment-end="h-IFS_-_Depression_research-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-IFS_-_Depression_research-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z-IFS_-_Depression_research"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T07:37:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-IFS_-_Depression_research-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z-IFS_-_Depression_research&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;IFS - Depression research&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;IFS - Depression research&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z-IFS_-_Depression_research"></span>Hi Smuckola, hopefully you saw my email about my amendments to the IFS page. If not, by way of introduction, I'm a registered clinical psychologist who has worked in University research settings and over the last 3 years been trained in IFS. I wanted to add some solid research to this page, particularly under the section of clinical application of IFS, as this section is not backed up by peer-reviewed, controlled, evidence-based research. </p><p>I appreciate you requiring a higher standard of encyclopedic prose. The reason why I used more casual language was because one of the criticisms of the page, in Talk, was "This article uses language that is rather esoteric and difficult to understand." </p><p>You remind me of a Professor that I published a number of peer-reviewed papers with who always pushed me to a higher standard of academia. </p><p>With my amendment, I probably sacrificed academic clarity for brevity, as I said I'm new to WP and I'm trying to balance scientific speak with lay accessibility. </p><p>What do you think about the following rewrite under the heading of Depression? </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd>The second controlled study to test IFS as a treatment modality, for any mental health condition, targeted depression in female college students. There was no statistically significant difference in efficacy between IFS and the control group of 'treatment as usual’ (TSU) - which in this study was CBT or IPT. Limitations of the study follow from the sample size (37) which in turn meant insufficient statistical power to control for antidepressant treatment and group therapy. (Note, however, that more people in the TSU group were prescribed antidepressants during the course of therapy.)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Countertransfer" title="User:Countertransfer">Countertransfer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Countertransfer#top" title="User talk:Countertransfer">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Countertransfer" title="Special:Contributions/Countertransfer">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z-IFS_-_Depression_research" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:40, 27 January 2019 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z-IFS_-_Depression_research"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z","author":"Countertransfer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z-IFS_-_Depression_research","replies":["c-Smuckola-2019-01-27T04:01:00.000Z-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z-IFS_-_Depression_research"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2019-01-27T04:01:00.000Z-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Countertransfer" title="User:Countertransfer">Countertransfer</a>:</span> Hello there. I guess you renamed your wikipedia account today for privacy, but you have a very lovely name anyway. :) I didn't mean to be too blunt on my edit summary. I don't understand why you're wanting to write about this study at all, because the words of your own summary describes it as being worthless. It's a non-notable study whose results say that it wasn't a very good study. It is too small, is ill-conceived, contradicts itself, and has no conclusion. What's the point? I guess it was a valid homework project for that school but I don't see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">WP:N</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> in it, right? The only point you mentioned is that it has a citation at all, whereas the other ones existing in the article aren't cited. Am I missing something? This article was recently flooded with reliable sources <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> at the bottom of the article but which don't have inline citations, so aren't those worth starting from?</dd> <dd>Regarding your Wikipedia presence, I am so very glad that a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a>-minded sourcer is contributing and I would be glad to assist the general wikipedia journey. The unencyclopedic prose I mentioned are the words "encouraging" and "unfortunately" which are like color commentary or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">WP:OR</a>. Which again were contradictory to the meaning anyway, because you basically said "the encouraging results of no significance and insufficient power". — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2019-01-27T04:01:00.000Z-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:01, 27 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2019-01-27T04:01:00.000Z-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-27T04:01:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Smuckola-2019-01-27T04:01:00.000Z-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T07:37:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-01-27T04:01:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2019-01-27T04:01:00.000Z-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T03:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T07:37:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-01-27T04:01:00.000Z"></span>Yes, I realised as I looked at different WP u/n's that people don't usually use their own names (this was my first and middle) so time for a reboot. Sorry, what is a WP:RS?</dd> <dd>Yes I thought they were the two words you were concerned about, I'm learning :-). I was trained in writing scientific papers to never overstate - so 'encouraging results' is preferable to 'we now have evidence'. 'Unfortunately' is a polite way of introducing the shortcomings of a paper. Having said this, this paper is actually an important contribution as it is only the 2nd research paper on the effectiveness of IFS in a clinical population and while the numbers are small, critically they are large enough to allow calculations that reach statistical significance showing IFS was as effective as accepted therapies. This is a solid research finding. I add the limitations to simply offer a balanced view which I understand is what WP is all about. I realise my wording did not explain this (see V3 below). As I mentioned above, in my 2nd version, while the biases (i.e. medication) could not be controlled for in a multivariate analysis, the bias was actually against IFS i.e. IFS had a headwind yet still came out as being as good as the other established therapies. Maybe I was being too understated, again it's my scientific training. But, more importantly, none of the four other 'Applications' have ANY independently researched, supporting controlled, peer-reviewed research, so I would suggest they all need to be deleted ahead of the application to Depression. Here's V3. Please let me know how it could be improved: <dl><dd>The second controlled study to test IFS as a treatment modality for a mental health condition targeted depression in female college students. IFS was found to be as effective as the control group, which received the two dominant, accepted, established therapies of Cognitive Behaviour Therapy (CBT) &amp; Interpersonal Therapy (IPT). While large enough to reach statistical significance, limitations of the study follow from the sample size (37) which in turn meant insufficient statistical power to control for antidepressant treatment and group therapy. (Note, however, that more people in the CBT &amp; IPT group were prescribed antidepressants during the course of therapy.)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>PS This paper is actually one of those 'at the bottom of the article but which don't have inline citations.' <a href="/wiki/User:Countertransfer" title="User:Countertransfer">Countertransfer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Countertransfer" title="User talk:Countertransfer">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T07:37:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-01-27T04:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:37, 27 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T07:37:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-01-27T04:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-27T07:37:00.000Z","author":"Countertransfer","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T07:37:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-01-27T04:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T07:37:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T07:37:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-01-27T04:01:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T07:37:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Countertransfer" title="User:Countertransfer">Countertransfer</a>:</span> Hi there. I apologize again if I was too blunt in my initial response. I am not a psychologist, an academic, or whatever. I really encourage you to start a discussion on the Talk page to find someone more academic, because I don't know why you'd want to include a study that minimizes itself as being flawed, just because it was published through a study. Why would you do that, of all available sources? There's another guy who recently compiled that huge list of sources, and he'd be great. Look at the article's version history to see some contributors and ping them with {{ping | username}}. I'm sorry if I'm not able to deep dive right alongside you, but please do let me know whatever I can possibly do. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T07:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:31, 6 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T07:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T07:37:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-Countertransfer-2019-01-27T07:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-McGee4531-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_barnstar_for_you!_7-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-McGee4531-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_7&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you! 7&quot;}--><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!_7" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_7-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21_7"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_7-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_7-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-McGee4531-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_barnstar_for_you!_7-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-McGee4531-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_7"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-McGee4531-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-McGee4531-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_barnstar_for_you!_7-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-McGee4531-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_7&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you! 7&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-McGee4531-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_7"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Editors_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Editors_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Editors_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Editors_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Editors_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Editors_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Editors_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Editor's Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Thank you for your assistance cleaning up my contribution to a Wikipedia page. I am new to editing on the platform and thus my edit was disorganized and poorly written. You assisted in cleaning it up and making it easily readable. <a href="/wiki/User:McGee4531" title="User:McGee4531">McGee4531</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:McGee4531" title="User talk:McGee4531">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-McGee4531-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:49, 17 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-McGee4531-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_7"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z","author":"McGee4531","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-McGee4531-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_7","replies":["c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-McGee4531-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-McGee4531-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_7"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-McGee4531-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:McGee4531" title="User:McGee4531">McGee4531</a>:</span> Wow, that barnstar comment was very well written lol. What the heck happened all of a sudden? I encourage anyone to write in a sandbox in your personal space, and to propose changes on the Talk pages. I write major changes in sandboxes all the time so I don't disrupt anybody too much with my drafts and noise. And definitely read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> very carefully many times, to learn what a reliable source is, because everything on an encyclopedia must be reliably sourced. Read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTNEWS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTNEWS">WP:NOTNEWS</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTBLOG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTBLOG">WP:NOTBLOG</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FANCRUFT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FANCRUFT">WP:FANCRUFT</a> to know what Wikipedia is not, which is pretty tough to sort out sometimes when you're a fanatic. Our personal beliefs don't matter, and it's a happy coincidence when we can actually find the truth. I've done a lot of hard work at archive.org to dig up old IGN articles that I never knew existed by google alone. And there are lots of magazine archives at books.google.com. That Nintendo 64 accessories article is hugely unsourced and I've already deleted half of it and should probably delete more and move it to wikia.com. Please let me know if there's anything I can help with your journey and welcome to Wikipedia. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-McGee4531-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:31, 6 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-McGee4531-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-McGee4531-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-McGee4531-2019-02-17T20:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Superb!-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z-Superb!&quot;,&quot;c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T11:52:00.000Z-Superb!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Superb!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Superb!&quot;}--><h2 id="Superb!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Superb!-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z"><span id="Superb.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Superb!-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z"></span>Superb!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Superb!-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Superb!-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z-Superb!","c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T11:52:00.000Z-Superb!"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2019-03-31T01:58:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T21:25:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-03-31T01:58:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__8__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Superb!-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z-Superb!&quot;,&quot;c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T11:52:00.000Z-Superb!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Superb!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Superb!&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z-Superb!"></span>Thanks for <a href="/wiki/Taligent" title="Taligent">Taligent</a>! <a href="/wiki/User:Maury_Markowitz" title="User:Maury Markowitz">Maury Markowitz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maury_Markowitz" title="User talk:Maury Markowitz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z-Superb!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:35, 5 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z-Superb!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z","author":"Maury Markowitz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z-Superb!","replies":["c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z-Superb!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Maury_Markowitz" title="User:Maury Markowitz">Maury Markowitz</a>:</span> Thank you thank you so much for saying so. For saying anything, about such an obscure niche subject. My goal is to make a readable action-packed story as much as chronicling every molecule of history that would honor the Pink pioneers if they hopefully read it today. I actually want to find them and promote the article and their work, and make a resurgence of interest in our shared heritage. It's weird because the story is half comprised of stuff that NEVER HAPPENED! And hype. lol. Please do feel free to make any feedback, about its readability and flow and organization. I get almost no feedback whatsoever from these weird deep dive subjects, so I can only guess at what anybody thinks or wants. It's not complete, it's just my 1.1 so far, and it's likewise with <a href="/wiki/Workplace_OS" title="Workplace OS">Workplace OS</a>. I just constantly maintain my own sandbox of both of those, so I don't disrupt everyone daily. This intensive deep-dive study into Pink has allowed me to start broadening the interwoven history of <a href="/wiki/AIM_alliance" title="AIM alliance">AIM alliance</a>, <a href="/wiki/PowerPC" title="PowerPC">PowerPC</a>, <a href="/wiki/A/UX" title="A/UX">A/UX</a>, <a href="/wiki/Copland_(operating_system)" title="Copland (operating system)">Copland (operating system)</a>, someday <a href="/wiki/OS/2" title="OS/2">OS/2</a>, and maybe eventually <a href="/wiki/Mach_(kernel)" title="Mach (kernel)">Mach (kernel)</a>. And it made me discover <a href="/wiki/Google_Fuchsia" class="mw-redirect" title="Google Fuchsia">Google Fuchsia</a>. It makes me wonder if there should be a subproject for 90s tech graveyard. ;) — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:31, 6 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-06T16:58:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-05T20:35:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-06T16:58:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z"></span>Ahhh A/UX. This <i>really</i> should have been OS7. I'm sure there's a story worth telling there. <a href="/wiki/User:Maury_Markowitz" title="User:Maury Markowitz">Maury Markowitz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maury_Markowitz" title="User talk:Maury Markowitz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-06T16:58:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:58, 6 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-06T16:58:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-06T16:58:00.000Z","author":"Maury Markowitz","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-06T16:58:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Smuckola-2019-03-07T07:06:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-06T16:58:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-06T16:58:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-03-06T00:31:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2019-03-07T07:06:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-06T16:58:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Maury_Markowitz" title="User:Maury Markowitz">Maury Markowitz</a>:</span> Heck yeah there is, and I wrote half of the existing Wikipedia article so far! I redid half the article a couple years ago and I just did a fair update yesterday, including some mention of Taligent and Copland into the timeline. And still I feel like it's the tip of the A/UX iceberg. I wonder if it was edged out first by the unaffordability of RAM in the late 80s and early 90s, which is a fact I <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOLD">WP:BOLDly</a> pointed out in <a href="/wiki/Taligent" title="Taligent">Taligent</a> at the risk of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">WP:OR</a>, and secondly by the constant promise of TalOS coming out Real Soon Now(tm). Why didn't all that System 7 abstraction work go straight to Pink and Workplace OS? I just saw that you started the <a href="/wiki/Taligent" title="Taligent">Taligent</a> article in 2002 so that's cool, you Wikipedia pioneer. I'll go read your original version now with much respect. :D ...okay done. Wow that was well written, and much more thorough and higher quality than a lot of original articles. In 2002, it was a weird niche subject on a weird niche website! It sounds like you sourced a lot more than Taligent's books, and maybe you had the fantastic "Blunders" book.   I can see quite a few details of your original posting that survived all the way until I rewrote it all, and which nonetheless provided a lot of pointers and topic goals to hit with more neutral prose and citations. Somebody since then touched it up with some weird insider tidbits that sound as if it was a former taligent employee, like when they wrote about the survey done to customers about operating systems. That was very very oddly specific and I left it in because I need try to to track it down somehow. You said "Apple continued to talk about Pink as if it were to be the future Mac OS, and magazines throughout the early 1990's show various mock-ups of what it would be like." and I would like clues about citations on that talk and those mockups if possible. I also did a lot of work on <a href="/wiki/Star_Trek_project" title="Star Trek project">Star Trek project</a> — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2019-03-07T07:06:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-06T16:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:06, 7 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2019-03-07T07:06:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-06T16:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-07T07:06:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Smuckola-2019-03-07T07:06:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-06T16:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2019-03-07T07:06:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-06T16:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T11:52:00.000Z-Superb!"></span>Sorry, got distracted. I meant to ask if you have any good references to flesh out the Copland article? I'd like to take it to FA at some point. <a href="/wiki/User:Maury_Markowitz" title="User:Maury Markowitz">Maury Markowitz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maury_Markowitz" title="User talk:Maury Markowitz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T11:52:00.000Z-Superb!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:52, 19 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T11:52:00.000Z-Superb!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-19T11:52:00.000Z","author":"Maury Markowitz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T11:52:00.000Z-Superb!","replies":["c-Smuckola-2019-03-19T18:28:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T11:52:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T11:52:00.000Z-Superb!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2019-03-19T18:28:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T11:52:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Maury_Markowitz" title="User:Maury Markowitz">Maury Markowitz</a>:</span> Yeah buddy I'm working on that. I just got two books with the Copland story as written by its developers and havent even started looking for magazines. So far, my wiki story is circling from Taligent to Workplace OS with a massive detour through Copland, and I guess starting over at NeXT lol. I have rolling sandboxes of Taligent and Workplace OS right now, with another publication forthcoming once I cull a few more Taligent and PPC books I just got, find a couple of sources on particular things as I mentioned above, and correct an error I introduced. I even have a color CommonPoint logo. Just dont ever reference the existence of real things as "was" because what did Copland become after it wasnt an OS anymore? An accursed frog? :) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COMPNOW" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COMPNOW">WP:COMPNOW</a> <a href="/wiki/MOS:PRESENT" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:PRESENT">MOS:PRESENT</a> — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2019-03-19T18:28:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T11:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:28, 19 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2019-03-19T18:28:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T11:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-19T18:28:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2019-03-19T18:28:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T11:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T21:25:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-03-19T18:28:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2019-03-19T18:28:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T11:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T21:25:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-03-19T18:28:00.000Z"></span>More like a BSOD in my experience! I really wonder why the released the first "beta". <a href="/wiki/User:Maury_Markowitz" title="User:Maury Markowitz">Maury Markowitz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maury_Markowitz" title="User talk:Maury Markowitz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T21:25:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-03-19T18:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:25, 19 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T21:25:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-03-19T18:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-19T21:25:00.000Z","author":"Maury Markowitz","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T21:25:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-03-19T18:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Smuckola-2019-03-31T01:58:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T21:25:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T21:25:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-03-19T18:28:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2019-03-31T01:58:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T21:25:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Maury_Markowitz" title="User:Maury Markowitz">Maury Markowitz</a>:</span> Yeah the Copland DRs don't make any sense to me. You need a reference release no matter what -- except if it's totally unusable lol. I don't understand why Gil Amelio made public comments about how Copland was just a mass of componentry that people magically expected to come together, but he didn't appoint a Copland Czar as project manager. He was the enterprise fixer, so why didn't he hire a software engineering project fixer? And throwing away A/UX, Pink, and Taligent all the way. It's just billions of dollars and everyone's lives! Oh well! :D — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2019-03-31T01:58:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T21:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:58, 31 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2019-03-31T01:58:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T21:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-31T01:58:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Smuckola-2019-03-31T01:58:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T21:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2019-03-31T01:58:00.000Z-Maury_Markowitz-2019-03-19T21:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Smuckola-2019-03-18T15:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-WikiProject_Apple_Inc.-2019-03-18T15:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Smuckola-2019-03-18T15:00:00.000Z-WikiProject_Apple_Inc.&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;WikiProject Apple Inc.&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;WikiProject Apple Inc.&quot;}--><h2 id="WikiProject_Apple_Inc." data-mw-thread-id="h-WikiProject_Apple_Inc.-2019-03-18T15:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WikiProject_Apple_Inc.-2019-03-18T15:00:00.000Z"></span>WikiProject Apple Inc.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WikiProject_Apple_Inc.-2019-03-18T15:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Smuckola-2019-03-18T15:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-WikiProject_Apple_Inc.-2019-03-18T15:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Smuckola-2019-03-18T15:00:00.000Z-WikiProject_Apple_Inc."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2019-03-18T15:00:00.000Z-WikiProject_Apple_Inc.","timestamp":"2019-03-18T15:00:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Smuckola-2019-03-18T15:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-WikiProject_Apple_Inc.-2019-03-18T15:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Smuckola-2019-03-18T15:00:00.000Z-WikiProject_Apple_Inc.&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;WikiProject Apple Inc.&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;WikiProject Apple Inc.&quot;}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2019-03-18T15:00:00.000Z-WikiProject_Apple_Inc."></span><figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Sad_mac.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Sad_mac.png" decoding="async" width="297" height="234" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="297" data-file-height="234"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Hello Smuckola, </p><p>You've been identified either as a previous member of the project, an active editor on Apple related pages, a bearer of Apple related userboxes, or just a hoopy frood. </p><p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Apple_Inc." title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Apple Inc.">WikiProject Apple Inc.</a> has unexpectedly quit, because an error type "unknown" occured. 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Please join, speak, and idle, and someone will read and reply. </p><p>Please spread the word, and join or unsubscribe at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Apple_Inc./Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Apple Inc./Subscribe">the subscription page</a>. </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:RhinosF1" title="User:RhinosF1">RhinosF1</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:RhinosF1" title="User talk:RhinosF1">(chat)</a></sup><small><sub><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:RhinosF1/StatusMonitor&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:RhinosF1/StatusMonitor (page does not exist)">(status)</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/RhinosF1" title="Special:Contributions/RhinosF1">(contribs)</a></sub></small> and <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a> on behalf of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Apple_Inc." title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Apple Inc.">WikiProject Apple Inc.</a> - Delivered <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2019-03-18T15:00:00.000Z-WikiProject_Apple_Inc." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 18 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2019-03-18T15:00:00.000Z-WikiProject_Apple_Inc."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-18T15:00:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Smuckola-2019-03-18T15:00:00.000Z-WikiProject_Apple_Inc.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2019-03-18T15:00:00.000Z-WikiProject_Apple_Inc."></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thank_you_so_much_Smuckola_for_the_Barnstar!-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z-Thank_you_so_much_Smuckola_for_the_Barnstar!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thank you so much Smuckola for the Barnstar!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thank you so much Smuckola for the Barnstar!&quot;}--><h2 id="Thank_you_so_much_Smuckola_for_the_Barnstar!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thank_you_so_much_Smuckola_for_the_Barnstar!-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z"><span id="Thank_you_so_much_Smuckola_for_the_Barnstar.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thank_you_so_much_Smuckola_for_the_Barnstar!-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z"></span>Thank you so much Smuckola for the Barnstar!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thank_you_so_much_Smuckola_for_the_Barnstar!-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Thank_you_so_much_Smuckola_for_the_Barnstar!-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z-Thank_you_so_much_Smuckola_for_the_Barnstar!"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-02T16:53:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-04-02T03:18:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-04-02T16:53:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thank_you_so_much_Smuckola_for_the_Barnstar!-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z-Thank_you_so_much_Smuckola_for_the_Barnstar!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thank you so much Smuckola for the Barnstar!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thank you so much Smuckola for the Barnstar!&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z-Thank_you_so_much_Smuckola_for_the_Barnstar!"></span>I highly, highly appreciate you for giving me a Teamwork Barnstar. I am a relatively new editor as I joined Wikipedia around a year and a half ago. So this is actually my second Barnstar. I'm really glad that I inspired you to clean up <a href="/wiki/World_1-1" title="World 1-1">World 1-1</a>. My interests are surprisingly, not actually related to <a href="/wiki/Mario" title="Mario">Mario</a>. It's actually <a href="/wiki/Astronomy" title="Astronomy">astronomy</a>! I hope you have a great rest of your day as I am sending good vibes to you. <a href="/wiki/User:AdrianWikiEditor" title="User:AdrianWikiEditor">AdrianWikiEditor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AdrianWikiEditor" title="User talk:AdrianWikiEditor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z-Thank_you_so_much_Smuckola_for_the_Barnstar!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:30, 27 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z-Thank_you_so_much_Smuckola_for_the_Barnstar!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z","author":"AdrianWikiEditor","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z-Thank_you_so_much_Smuckola_for_the_Barnstar!","replies":["c-Smuckola-2019-04-02T03:18:00.000Z-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z-Thank_you_so_much_Smuckola_for_the_Barnstar!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2019-04-02T03:18:00.000Z-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:AdrianWikiEditor" title="User:AdrianWikiEditor">AdrianWikiEditor</a>:</span> Hello hello wow that's great. Let me tell you, I grew up completely wrapped up in video games during their golden years. I wanted so much to just jump into the TV and live in the game world, especially with Mario. I spent a lot of time in World 1-1 because I was little! lol I wanted to know the people who'd made these games from across the world in the magical Silicon Valley and Japan and sent them to me. So I looked at these games as being like the stars in the sky, such that we were all able to look at the same thing together from wherever we live. Let me know if I can help. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2019-04-02T03:18:00.000Z-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:18, 2 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2019-04-02T03:18:00.000Z-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-04-02T03:18:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2019-04-02T03:18:00.000Z-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-02T16:53:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-04-02T03:18:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2019-04-02T03:18:00.000Z-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-03-27T13:30:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-02T16:53:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-04-02T03:18:00.000Z"></span>Thank you! I'll let you know if I need anything. <a href="/wiki/User:AdrianWikiEditor" title="User:AdrianWikiEditor">AdrianWikiEditor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AdrianWikiEditor" title="User talk:AdrianWikiEditor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-02T16:53:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-04-02T03:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:53, 2 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-02T16:53:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-04-02T03:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-04-02T16:53:00.000Z","author":"AdrianWikiEditor","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-02T16:53:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-04-02T03:18:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-02T16:53:00.000Z-Smuckola-2019-04-02T03:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Coel_Jo-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Reliable_sources_List_for_WP:_Apple_and_iOS_task_force-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Coel_Jo-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z-Reliable_sources_List_for_WP:_Apple_and_iOS_task_force&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Reliable sources List for WP: Apple and iOS task force&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Reliable sources List for WP: Apple and iOS task force&quot;}--><h2 id="Reliable_sources_List_for_WP:_Apple_and_iOS_task_force" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reliable_sources_List_for_WP:_Apple_and_iOS_task_force-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reliable_sources_List_for_WP:_Apple_and_iOS_task_force-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z"></span>Reliable sources List for WP: Apple and iOS task force<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reliable_sources_List_for_WP:_Apple_and_iOS_task_force-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Coel_Jo-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Reliable_sources_List_for_WP:_Apple_and_iOS_task_force-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Coel_Jo-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z-Reliable_sources_List_for_WP:_Apple_and_iOS_task_force"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Coel_Jo-2019-04-25T01:38:00.000Z-Coel_Jo-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-04-25T01:38:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Coel_Jo-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Reliable_sources_List_for_WP:_Apple_and_iOS_task_force-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Coel_Jo-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z-Reliable_sources_List_for_WP:_Apple_and_iOS_task_force&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Reliable sources List for WP: Apple and iOS task force&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Reliable sources List for WP: Apple and iOS task force&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coel_Jo-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z-Reliable_sources_List_for_WP:_Apple_and_iOS_task_force"></span>Hello Smuckola, </p><p>Following your suggestion I'm trying to put up a Reliable sources List for WP: Apple and iOS task force.I have a few questions: </p><p>1- Wiki sources must be verifiable (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability" title="Wikipedia:Verifiability">WP:Verifiability</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources">WP:Reliable_sources</a>). Do websites that require log in to provide information qualify? As an example, www.appannie.com provides information about app rank history, i.e. one can check if an app reached the top sales for a given country. However it requires an account (free) to provide the data. Does it qualify as a verifiable source? BTW: it is my opinion that it should qualify and there are precedents: Most scientific publications require log in to paid website to retrieve the paper (e.g <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.elsevier.com/">https://www.elsevier.com/</a> or <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/">https://www.sciencedirect.com/</a>) What is your view? </p><p>2- When it comes to Reliable sources for iOS apps, I've found out that these are usually divided in three major groups: games, education, and everything else. Do you think I should include sources for iOS games? Or is this in the scope of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games">WP: Video_games</a>? </p><p>3- I'm considering adding a "Guidelines" section to the iOS task force... may need an hand. I'll let you know once the draft is ready. </p><p>Thanks, --<a href="/wiki/User:Coel_Jo" title="User:Coel Jo">Coel Jo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coel_Jo" title="User talk:Coel Jo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Coel_Jo-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z-Reliable_sources_List_for_WP:_Apple_and_iOS_task_force" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:28, 10 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coel_Jo-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z-Reliable_sources_List_for_WP:_Apple_and_iOS_task_force"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z","author":"Coel Jo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Coel_Jo-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z-Reliable_sources_List_for_WP:_Apple_and_iOS_task_force","replies":["c-Coel_Jo-2019-04-25T01:38:00.000Z-Coel_Jo-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coel_Jo-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z-Reliable_sources_List_for_WP:_Apple_and_iOS_task_force"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coel_Jo-2019-04-25T01:38:00.000Z-Coel_Jo-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z"></span>Hello, I've just published a list of "All Apple" webistes ad Reliable Sources for the WikiProject Apps. Please take a look at it and modify whatever you fell necessary: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Apple_Inc./Resources#Sources">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Apple_Inc./Resources#Sources</a> Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Coel_Jo" title="User:Coel Jo">Coel Jo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coel_Jo" title="User talk:Coel Jo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Coel_Jo-2019-04-25T01:38:00.000Z-Coel_Jo-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:38, 25 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coel_Jo-2019-04-25T01:38:00.000Z-Coel_Jo-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-04-25T01:38:00.000Z","author":"Coel Jo","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Coel_Jo-2019-04-25T01:38:00.000Z-Coel_Jo-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coel_Jo-2019-04-25T01:38:00.000Z-Coel_Jo-2019-04-10T00:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-18T04:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Need_help_with_new_astronomy_infobox_montage.-2019-04-18T04:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-18T04:27:00.000Z-Need_help_with_new_astronomy_infobox_montage.&quot;,&quot;c-Coel_Jo-2019-04-30T15:19:00.000Z-Need_help_with_new_astronomy_infobox_montage.&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Need help with new astronomy infobox montage.&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Need help with new astronomy infobox montage.&quot;}--><h2 id="Need_help_with_new_astronomy_infobox_montage." data-mw-thread-id="h-Need_help_with_new_astronomy_infobox_montage.-2019-04-18T04:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Need_help_with_new_astronomy_infobox_montage.-2019-04-18T04:27:00.000Z"></span>Need help with new astronomy infobox montage.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Need_help_with_new_astronomy_infobox_montage.-2019-04-18T04:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-18T04:27:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Need_help_with_new_astronomy_infobox_montage.-2019-04-18T04:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-18T04:27:00.000Z-Need_help_with_new_astronomy_infobox_montage.","c-Coel_Jo-2019-04-30T15:19:00.000Z-Need_help_with_new_astronomy_infobox_montage."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-30T21:40:00.000Z-Coel_Jo-2019-04-30T15:19:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-04-30T21:40:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-18T04:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Need_help_with_new_astronomy_infobox_montage.-2019-04-18T04:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-18T04:27:00.000Z-Need_help_with_new_astronomy_infobox_montage.&quot;,&quot;c-Coel_Jo-2019-04-30T15:19:00.000Z-Need_help_with_new_astronomy_infobox_montage.&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Need help with new astronomy infobox montage.&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Need help with new astronomy infobox montage.&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-18T04:27:00.000Z-Need_help_with_new_astronomy_infobox_montage."></span>Back in October I desided I wanted to create a montage of images of different astronomical images. (Kinda how major cities like <a href="/wiki/New_York_City" title="New York City">New York City</a> and <a href="/wiki/Los_Angeles" title="Los Angeles">Los Angeles</a> have more than one image. Only problem, I didn't know how to do it. I just added a single image of the Milky Way instead (<a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/862346980">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/862346980</a>) It's still there, and now I am getting ready to add that montage after waiting for the right time. I got inspired from the <a href="/wiki/Ecology" title="Ecology">Ecology</a> page and I used the plane "infobox" like Ecology. I have everything ready, just one thing. The image aren't close to each other. Here's what I have. Note: I want all the image close and next to each other like those major cities articles. <a href="/wiki/User:AdrianWikiEditor" title="User:AdrianWikiEditor">AdrianWikiEditor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AdrianWikiEditor" title="User talk:AdrianWikiEditor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-18T04:27:00.000Z-Need_help_with_new_astronomy_infobox_montage." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:27, 18 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-18T04:27:00.000Z-Need_help_with_new_astronomy_infobox_montage."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-04-18T04:27:00.000Z","author":"AdrianWikiEditor","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-18T04:27:00.000Z-Need_help_with_new_astronomy_infobox_montage.","replies":["c-Smuckola-2019-04-25T08:50:00.000Z-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-18T04:27:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-18T04:27:00.000Z-Need_help_with_new_astronomy_infobox_montage."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2019-04-25T08:50:00.000Z-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-18T04:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:AdrianWikiEditor" title="User:AdrianWikiEditor">AdrianWikiEditor</a>:</span> Wow, i'm sorry I missed your message. Spring weather happened and I've been busy. I'm so impressed with your ambitions. This is cool because you inspired me to learn some new image handling technique, because you gave some good examples. <a href="/wiki/New_York_City" title="New York City">New York City</a> does it manually, by using an image editor app on a personal computer to just composite them all into one static image. <a href="/wiki/Los_Angeles" title="Los Angeles">Los Angeles</a> does it in a way I've never seen, using <a href="/wiki/Template:Photomontage" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Photomontage">Template:photomontage</a>, which seems to automatically align everything with one dimension setting. So I assembled the <a href="/wiki/Ecology" title="Ecology">Ecology</a> and <a href="/wiki/Los_Angeles" title="Los Angeles">Los Angeles</a> methods in my second example. I think your caption text was probably messed up so I changed it in the second example. I modified your example to vertically hug a little more, if you don't mind two of the images being kinda small because of their aspect ratio. You have to order the images based on their compatible aspect ratios; some are wider like 16:9 and some are boxy like 4:3. I'm surprised that there isn't an infobox for the sciences; there's nothing on <a href="/wiki/Science" title="Science">Science</a>, <a href="/wiki/Physics" title="Physics">Physics</a>, etc. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2019-04-25T08:50:00.000Z-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-18T04:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:50, 25 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2019-04-25T08:50:00.000Z-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-18T04:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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.infobox-full-data:not(.notheme)>div:not(.notheme)[style]{background:#1f1f23!important;color:#f8f9fa}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .infobox-full-data:not(.notheme) div:not(.notheme){background:#1f1f23!important;color:#f8f9fa}}@media(min-width:640px){body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table{display:table!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table>caption{display:table-caption!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table>tbody{display:table-row-group}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table tr{display:table-row!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table th,body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table td{padding-left:inherit;padding-right:inherit}}</style><table class="infobox"><caption class="infobox-title">Astronomy</caption><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-full-data"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:5_Local_Galactic_Group_(ELitU).png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/5_Local_Galactic_Group_%28ELitU%29.png/300px-5_Local_Galactic_Group_%28ELitU%29.png" decoding="async" width="300" height="300" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/5_Local_Galactic_Group_%28ELitU%29.png/450px-5_Local_Galactic_Group_%28ELitU%29.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/5_Local_Galactic_Group_%28ELitU%29.png/600px-5_Local_Galactic_Group_%28ELitU%29.png 2x" data-file-width="2953" data-file-height="2953"/></a></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-full-data"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Crab_Nebula.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Crab_Nebula.jpg/150px-Crab_Nebula.jpg" decoding="async" width="150" height="150" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Crab_Nebula.jpg/225px-Crab_Nebula.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Crab_Nebula.jpg/300px-Crab_Nebula.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3864" data-file-height="3864"/></a></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Black_hole_-_Messier_87_crop_max_res.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Black_hole_-_Messier_87_crop_max_res.jpg/150px-Black_hole_-_Messier_87_crop_max_res.jpg" decoding="async" width="150" height="150" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Black_hole_-_Messier_87_crop_max_res.jpg/225px-Black_hole_-_Messier_87_crop_max_res.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Black_hole_-_Messier_87_crop_max_res.jpg/300px-Black_hole_-_Messier_87_crop_max_res.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4320" data-file-height="4320"/></a></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-full-data"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pleiades_large.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Pleiades_large.jpg/300px-Pleiades_large.jpg" decoding="async" width="300" height="216" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Pleiades_large.jpg/450px-Pleiades_large.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Pleiades_large.jpg/600px-Pleiades_large.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4877" data-file-height="3515"/></a></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-full-data"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:The_Galactic_Centre_and_Bulge_above_the_ESO_3.6-metre_telescope.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/The_Galactic_Centre_and_Bulge_above_the_ESO_3.6-metre_telescope.jpg/300px-The_Galactic_Centre_and_Bulge_above_the_ESO_3.6-metre_telescope.jpg" decoding="async" width="300" height="200" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/The_Galactic_Centre_and_Bulge_above_the_ESO_3.6-metre_telescope.jpg/450px-The_Galactic_Centre_and_Bulge_above_the_ESO_3.6-metre_telescope.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/The_Galactic_Centre_and_Bulge_above_the_ESO_3.6-metre_telescope.jpg/600px-The_Galactic_Centre_and_Bulge_above_the_ESO_3.6-metre_telescope.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4256" data-file-height="2832"/></a></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-full-data">Clockwise from top; The nearest galaxies to the <a href="/wiki/Milky_Way" title="Milky Way">Milky Way</a> in the <a href="/wiki/Local_Group" title="Local Group">Local Group</a>, the <a href="/wiki/Pleiades" title="Pleiades">Pleiades</a>, an <a href="/wiki/Open_star_cluster" class="mw-redirect" title="Open star cluster">open star cluster</a> in <a href="/wiki/Taurus_(constellation)" title="Taurus (constellation)">Taurus</a>, An image of the <a href="/wiki/Supermassive_black_hole" title="Supermassive black hole">supermassive black hole</a> in <a href="/wiki/Messier_87" title="Messier 87">Messier 87</a>, the Milky Way as viewed from <a href="/wiki/La_Silla_Observatory" title="La Silla Observatory">La Silla Observatory</a>, and a giant <a href="/wiki/Hubble_Space_Telescope" title="Hubble Space Telescope">Hubble</a> mosaic of the <a href="/wiki/Crab_Nebula" title="Crab Nebula">Crab Nebula</a>, a <a href="/wiki/Supernova_remnant" title="Supernova remnant">supernova remnant</a></td></tr></tbody></table> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1257001546"><table class="infobox"><caption class="infobox-title">Astronomy</caption><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-full-data"><div class="thumb tright" style=""><div class="thumbinner" style="width:-moz-fit-content; width:fit-content;"><div class="thumbimage noresize" style="width:auto;"> <div style="background-color:black;border-collapse:collapse;border:3px solid black;width:300px;display:table;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><div style="display:table-row"><div style="display:table-cell;border-top:0;padding:3px 0 0 3px"><div style="display:table;background-color:black;border-collapse:collapse"><div style="display:table-row"><div style="display:table-cell;border-top:0;padding:0 3px 3px 0"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:5_Local_Galactic_Group_(ELitU).png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/5_Local_Galactic_Group_%28ELitU%29.png/300px-5_Local_Galactic_Group_%28ELitU%29.png" decoding="async" width="300" height="300" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/5_Local_Galactic_Group_%28ELitU%29.png/450px-5_Local_Galactic_Group_%28ELitU%29.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/5_Local_Galactic_Group_%28ELitU%29.png/600px-5_Local_Galactic_Group_%28ELitU%29.png 2x" data-file-width="2953" data-file-height="2953"/></a></span></div></div></div><div style="display:table;background-color:black;border-collapse:collapse"><div style="display:table-row"><div style="display:table-cell;border-top:0;padding:0 3px 3px 0"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Crab_Nebula.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Crab_Nebula.jpg/300px-Crab_Nebula.jpg" decoding="async" width="300" height="300" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Crab_Nebula.jpg/450px-Crab_Nebula.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Crab_Nebula.jpg/600px-Crab_Nebula.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3864" data-file-height="3864"/></a></span></div></div></div><div style="display:table;background-color:black;border-collapse:collapse"><div style="display:table-row"><div style="display:table-cell;border-top:0;padding:0 3px 3px 0"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Pleiades_large.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Pleiades_large.jpg/300px-Pleiades_large.jpg" decoding="async" width="300" height="216" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Pleiades_large.jpg/450px-Pleiades_large.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Pleiades_large.jpg/600px-Pleiades_large.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4877" data-file-height="3515"/></a></span></div></div></div><div style="display:table;background-color:black;border-collapse:collapse"><div style="display:table-row"><div style="display:table-cell;border-top:0;padding:0 3px 3px 0"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:The_Galactic_Centre_and_Bulge_above_the_ESO_3.6-metre_telescope.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/The_Galactic_Centre_and_Bulge_above_the_ESO_3.6-metre_telescope.jpg/300px-The_Galactic_Centre_and_Bulge_above_the_ESO_3.6-metre_telescope.jpg" decoding="async" width="300" height="200" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/The_Galactic_Centre_and_Bulge_above_the_ESO_3.6-metre_telescope.jpg/450px-The_Galactic_Centre_and_Bulge_above_the_ESO_3.6-metre_telescope.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/The_Galactic_Centre_and_Bulge_above_the_ESO_3.6-metre_telescope.jpg/600px-The_Galactic_Centre_and_Bulge_above_the_ESO_3.6-metre_telescope.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4256" data-file-height="2832"/></a></span></div></div></div><div style="display:table;background-color:black;border-collapse:collapse"><div style="display:table-row"><div style="display:table-cell;border-top:0;padding:0 3px 3px 0"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Black_hole_-_Messier_87_crop_max_res.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Black_hole_-_Messier_87_crop_max_res.jpg/300px-Black_hole_-_Messier_87_crop_max_res.jpg" decoding="async" width="300" height="300" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Black_hole_-_Messier_87_crop_max_res.jpg/450px-Black_hole_-_Messier_87_crop_max_res.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Black_hole_-_Messier_87_crop_max_res.jpg/600px-Black_hole_-_Messier_87_crop_max_res.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4320" data-file-height="4320"/></a></span></div></div></div></div></div><div style="display:table-row"><div class="thumbcaption" style="display:table-cell;background-color:#F8F8FF;font-size:95%">From top: the nearest galaxies to the <a href="/wiki/Milky_Way" title="Milky Way">Milky Way</a> in the <a href="/wiki/Local_Group" title="Local Group">Local Group</a>; a giant <a href="/wiki/Hubble_Space_Telescope" title="Hubble Space Telescope">Hubble</a> mosaic of the <a href="/wiki/Crab_Nebula" title="Crab Nebula">Crab Nebula</a>; the <a href="/wiki/Pleiades" title="Pleiades">Pleiades</a>; the Milky Way as viewed from <a href="/wiki/La_Silla_Observatory" title="La Silla Observatory">La Silla Observatory</a>; the <a href="/wiki/Supermassive_black_hole" title="Supermassive black hole">supermassive black hole</a> in <a href="/wiki/Messier_87" title="Messier 87">Messier 87</a></div></div></div></div></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:AdrianWikiEditor" title="User:AdrianWikiEditor">AdrianWikiEditor</a>:</span>,:<span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a>:</span> Congrats! It seems very very cool. Must it be done with wikidata images or can we use images uploaded directly on the wikipage?... like software screenshots <a href="/wiki/User:Coel_Jo" title="User:Coel Jo">Coel Jo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coel_Jo" title="User talk:Coel Jo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Coel_Jo-2019-04-30T15:19:00.000Z-Need_help_with_new_astronomy_infobox_montage." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 30 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coel_Jo-2019-04-30T15:19:00.000Z-Need_help_with_new_astronomy_infobox_montage."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-04-30T15:19:00.000Z","author":"Coel Jo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Coel_Jo-2019-04-30T15:19:00.000Z-Need_help_with_new_astronomy_infobox_montage.","replies":["c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-30T21:40:00.000Z-Coel_Jo-2019-04-30T15:19:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coel_Jo-2019-04-30T15:19:00.000Z-Need_help_with_new_astronomy_infobox_montage."></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-30T21:40:00.000Z-Coel_Jo-2019-04-30T15:19:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Coel_Jo" title="User:Coel Jo">Coel Jo</a>:</span> Thank YOU so much, again, Smuckola. I really like the overall feel to the caption box. As for Coel Jo, most major cities except for Los Angeles for some reason, have a combined image. This way, it can be used for easy sharing across all wiki's. We could keep it the way it is or somehow collapse it into a separate image. Also Smuckola has the honors of publishing it as he did the amazing work! <a href="/wiki/User:AdrianWikiEditor" title="User:AdrianWikiEditor">AdrianWikiEditor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AdrianWikiEditor" title="User talk:AdrianWikiEditor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-30T21:40:00.000Z-Coel_Jo-2019-04-30T15:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:40, 30 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-30T21:40:00.000Z-Coel_Jo-2019-04-30T15:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-04-30T21:40:00.000Z","author":"AdrianWikiEditor","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-30T21:40:00.000Z-Coel_Jo-2019-04-30T15:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AdrianWikiEditor-2019-04-30T21:40:00.000Z-Coel_Jo-2019-04-30T15:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Coel_Jo-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Help_with_WikiProject:_Apps-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Coel_Jo-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z-Help_with_WikiProject:_Apps&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Help with WikiProject: Apps&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Help with WikiProject: Apps&quot;}--><h2 id="Help_with_WikiProject:_Apps" data-mw-thread-id="h-Help_with_WikiProject:_Apps-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Help_with_WikiProject:_Apps-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z"></span>Help with WikiProject: Apps<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Help_with_WikiProject:_Apps-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Coel_Jo-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Help_with_WikiProject:_Apps-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Coel_Jo-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z-Help_with_WikiProject:_Apps"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Coel_Jo-2019-12-02T01:28:00.000Z-Coel_Jo-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-12-02T01:28:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Coel_Jo-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Help_with_WikiProject:_Apps-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Coel_Jo-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z-Help_with_WikiProject:_Apps&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Help with WikiProject: Apps&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Help with WikiProject: Apps&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coel_Jo-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z-Help_with_WikiProject:_Apps"></span>Hi, </p><p>I've been working on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Apps" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Apps">Wikipedia:WikiProject Apps</a> page, particularly, I've added <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Apps#Guidelines" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Apps">Wikipedia:WikiProject Apps#Guidelines</a> section. I could use an extra pair of eyes to check the work. Can you take a look at it? </p><p>Thanks, --<a href="/wiki/User:Coel_Jo" title="User:Coel Jo">Coel Jo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coel_Jo" title="User talk:Coel Jo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Coel_Jo-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z-Help_with_WikiProject:_Apps" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:28, 13 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coel_Jo-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z-Help_with_WikiProject:_Apps"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z","author":"Coel Jo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Coel_Jo-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z-Help_with_WikiProject:_Apps","replies":["c-Coel_Jo-2019-12-02T01:28:00.000Z-Coel_Jo-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coel_Jo-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z-Help_with_WikiProject:_Apps"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coel_Jo-2019-12-02T01:28:00.000Z-Coel_Jo-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a>:</span> I've been looking at some articles within the scope of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Apps" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Apps">Wikipedia:WikiProject Apps</a> (articles about apps and app developers) and find a large number of articles poorly referenced. Before starting to correct them, I've published myself an article (<a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landka">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landka</a>) to serve as guidance. Could you please take a look at the way I've referenced the article and let me know if you have any suggestions?</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Coel_Jo" title="User:Coel Jo">Coel Jo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coel_Jo" title="User talk:Coel Jo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Coel_Jo-2019-12-02T01:28:00.000Z-Coel_Jo-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:28, 2 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coel_Jo-2019-12-02T01:28:00.000Z-Coel_Jo-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-02T01:28:00.000Z","author":"Coel Jo","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Coel_Jo-2019-12-02T01:28:00.000Z-Coel_Jo-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coel_Jo-2019-12-02T01:28:00.000Z-Coel_Jo-2019-11-13T18:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Namcokid47-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Radar_Scope-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Namcokid47-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z-Radar_Scope&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Radar Scope&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Radar Scope&quot;}--><h2 id="Radar_Scope" data-mw-thread-id="h-Radar_Scope-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Radar_Scope-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z"></span><i><a href="/wiki/Radar_Scope" title="Radar Scope">Radar Scope</a></i><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Radar_Scope-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Namcokid47-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Radar_Scope-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Namcokid47-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z-Radar_Scope"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2019-12-12T03:05:00.000Z-Namcokid47-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-12-12T03:05:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Namcokid47-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Radar_Scope-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Namcokid47-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z-Radar_Scope&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Radar Scope&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Radar Scope&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Namcokid47-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z-Radar_Scope"></span>I greatly appreciate you providing some copy editing on it, thank you. If you don't mind, would you be willing to copyedit the rest of the page if needed? I'm thinking of taking this to GAN and I want it to be up to snuff before I even bother trying to nominate it. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Namcokid47" title="User:Namcokid47"><span style="color: #009999">Namcokid</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Namcokid47" title="User talk:Namcokid47"><span style="color: #cc0000">47</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Namcokid47" title="Special:Contributions/Namcokid47"><span style="color: #0073e6">(Contribs)</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Namcokid47-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z-Radar_Scope" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:42, 9 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Namcokid47-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z-Radar_Scope"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z","author":"Namcokid47","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Namcokid47-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z-Radar_Scope","replies":["c-Smuckola-2019-12-12T03:05:00.000Z-Namcokid47-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Namcokid"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Namcokid47-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z-Radar_Scope"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2019-12-12T03:05:00.000Z-Namcokid47-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Namcokid47" title="User:Namcokid47">Namcokid47</a>:</span> My friend, it is an honor to collaborate not only to such great ends but from such wretched beginnings. They said it couldn't be done! Or that it shouldn't be done! Who are they? I don't know, but I definitely imagine them. I recently did the same with <a href="/wiki/R.O.B." title="R.O.B.">R.O.B.</a> and I long ago did the same with <a href="/wiki/64DD" title="64DD">64DD</a>, to my complete astonishment. 64DD dominated and consumed my life for a year or two, to my horrified delight. I never imagined anything substantial could be said about poor R.O.B. or <i>Radar Scope</i>. I have never nominated anything to Good, though I have collaborated several times with serial do-Good-ers like yourself and I should maybe do that myself sometime. Second only to <i>Pac-Man</i>?!!! Man we should play <i>Radar Scope</i> someday. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2019-12-12T03:05:00.000Z-Namcokid47-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:05, 12 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2019-12-12T03:05:00.000Z-Namcokid47-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-12T03:05:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2019-12-12T03:05:00.000Z-Namcokid47-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2019-12-12T03:05:00.000Z-Namcokid47-2019-12-09T04:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-07T23:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-San_Francisco_Rush-2020-01-07T23:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-07T23:20:00.000Z-San_Francisco_Rush&quot;,&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-11T16:58:00.000Z-San_Francisco_Rush&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;San Francisco Rush&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;San Francisco Rush&quot;}--><h2 id="San_Francisco_Rush" data-mw-thread-id="h-San_Francisco_Rush-2020-01-07T23:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-San_Francisco_Rush-2020-01-07T23:20:00.000Z"></span>San Francisco Rush<span data-mw-comment-end="h-San_Francisco_Rush-2020-01-07T23:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-07T23:20:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-San_Francisco_Rush-2020-01-07T23:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-07T23:20:00.000Z-San_Francisco_Rush","c-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-11T16:58:00.000Z-San_Francisco_Rush"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-28T16:29:00.000Z","timestamp":"2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-07T23:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-San_Francisco_Rush-2020-01-07T23:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-07T23:20:00.000Z-San_Francisco_Rush&quot;,&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-11T16:58:00.000Z-San_Francisco_Rush&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;San Francisco Rush&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;San Francisco Rush&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-07T23:20:00.000Z-San_Francisco_Rush"></span>Hey, how's it going? I'm still keeping an eye out for Nintendo 64 stuff, but haven't come across anything major lately, mostly because the past couple of months I've been mainly going through issues of Sega Saturn Magazine (which naturally makes practically zero mention of Nintendo 64). I have procured a copy of Electronic Gaming Monthly number 100, which doesn't seem to have scans online anywhere. If you're interested in me scanning any Nintendo 64 stuff from EGM 100 for you, let me know. </p><p>But of course I'm mainly posting to ask you a question. :) Do you know anything about <i><a href="/wiki/San_Francisco_Rush:_Extreme_Racing" title="San Francisco Rush: Extreme Racing">San Francisco Rush: Extreme Racing</a></i>, particularly the "Alcatraz Edition" and the Nintendo 64 port? The preview I'm reading in Next Generation and the unsourced information in the WP article differ concerning the number of tracks included in each version.--<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_IIIa" title="User talk:Martin IIIa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-07T23:20:00.000Z-San_Francisco_Rush" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:20, 7 January 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-07T23:20:00.000Z-San_Francisco_Rush"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-01-07T23:20:00.000Z","author":"Martin IIIa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-07T23:20:00.000Z-San_Francisco_Rush","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-07T23:20:00.000Z-San_Francisco_Rush"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-11T16:58:00.000Z-San_Francisco_Rush"></span>Well, there's an article in GamePro 108 about Nintendo reducing the wholesale prices for N64 cartridges, theoretically allowing the retail prices of third party games to drop about $5. I couldn't think of a place on WP where that would be notable enough to include, but maybe you can, or at least find it interesting. I'm going off of an actual physical copy of the magazine, but I found a scan of the page <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://archive.org/details/GamePro_Issue_108_Volume_09_Number_09_1997-09_IDG_Publishing_US/page/n23">here</a>. There's some 64DD stuff under "News Bits" too.--<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_IIIa" title="User talk:Martin IIIa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-11T16:58:00.000Z-San_Francisco_Rush" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:58, 11 January 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-11T16:58:00.000Z-San_Francisco_Rush"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-01-11T16:58:00.000Z","author":"Martin IIIa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-11T16:58:00.000Z-San_Francisco_Rush","replies":["c-Smuckola-2020-01-27T02:11:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-11T16:58:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-11T16:58:00.000Z-San_Francisco_Rush"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2020-01-27T02:11:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-11T16:58:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a>:</span> I know absolutely nothing about San Francisco Rush! Yeah the cartridge price content goes on <a href="/wiki/Nintendo_64_Game_Pak" title="Nintendo 64 Game Pak">Nintendo 64 Game Pak</a>. I have worked really hard on that, to set the record straight about the accurate and realistic ups and downs about something so turbulent for so many reasons, because fandom likes to dumb it down to the bad faith and incomplete one-note story of Nintendo just being a powermonger or monopoly. It's not enough to just say that they're more expensive but yeah it'd be great if we knew more about how much and when and why! I had kinda vaguely read somewhere that crossplatform games tended to cost about $5-10 more on N64. But there's so much armwaving about it, ya know. Yeah I'd wanna put that information in there myself and I am also due for adding an old quote about the technological superiority of cartridge from Peter Molyneux. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2020-01-27T02:11:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-11T16:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:11, 27 January 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2020-01-27T02:11:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-11T16:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-01-27T02:11:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2020-01-27T02:11:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-11T16:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-28T16:29:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-01-27T02:11:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2020-01-27T02:11:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-11T16:58:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-28T16:29:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-01-27T02:11:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! As something of a follow-up, I flipped through my copy of GamePro 124 to get a look at the suggested retail prices on Nintendo 64 games. In the aforementioned article Nintendo boasts that prices could go as low as $69.99, but all but one of the third-party games reviewed in GamePro 124 were priced at $59.99. So either the drop in wholesale prices was three times as effective as Nintendo thought (highly unlikely), or the cost of Game Paks went down again over the following year. I'll be keeping an eye out...--<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_IIIa" title="User talk:Martin IIIa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-28T16:29:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-01-27T02:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 28 January 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-28T16:29:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-01-27T02:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-01-28T16:29:00.000Z","author":"Martin IIIa","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-28T16:29:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-01-27T02:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-28T16:29:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-28T16:29:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-01-27T02:11:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-28T16:29:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a>:</span> Cool. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-28T16:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:15, 13 June 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-28T16:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-28T16:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-01-28T16:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Martin_IIIa-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-N64_basketball_game-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z-N64_basketball_game&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;N64 basketball game&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;N64 basketball game&quot;}--><h2 id="N64_basketball_game" data-mw-thread-id="h-N64_basketball_game-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-N64_basketball_game-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z"></span>N64 basketball game<span data-mw-comment-end="h-N64_basketball_game-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Martin_IIIa-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-N64_basketball_game-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martin_IIIa-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z-N64_basketball_game"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Martin_IIIa-2021-03-20T19:20:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-03-20T19:20:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Martin_IIIa-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-N64_basketball_game-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z-N64_basketball_game&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;N64 basketball game&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;N64 basketball game&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martin_IIIa-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z-N64_basketball_game"></span>Here's an interesting tidbit from EGM 100: "In other sports news, an unnamed Silicon Valley developer is working on a basketball game for the N64. Originally the game was to have the very expensive Michael Jordan license on it. ... The game is reportedly hotter than hot, and is nearly complete but there's only one problem. You see, the game was planned to be published by BMG Interactive and now that the group is no longer around, the developer is shopping the game around in a major way." The N64 has enough basketball games that even with all those clues (plus the magazine's cover date, November 1997) I'm having a hard time narrowing down which game they're talking about, and of course there's the possibility that it ended up never getting released. Any idea which game this is?--<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_IIIa" title="User talk:Martin IIIa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Martin_IIIa-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z-N64_basketball_game" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:02, 16 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martin_IIIa-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z-N64_basketball_game"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z","author":"Martin IIIa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martin_IIIa-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z-N64_basketball_game","replies":["c-Smuckola-2020-02-17T06:21:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martin_IIIa-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z-N64_basketball_game"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2020-02-17T06:21:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a>:</span> I have no clue. Earlier today, I posted your quote to IRC and to reddit <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo64/comments/f4xf6z/help_identify_possibly_unpublished_basketball_game/">here</a>, but I have no reply yet. Interesting. There are so many unreleased or incomplete games. Even for programmers and historians, the source code would be invaluable. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2020-02-17T06:21:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:21, 17 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2020-02-17T06:21:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-17T06:21:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2020-02-17T06:21:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-16T19:03:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-02-17T06:21:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2020-02-17T06:21:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-02-16T17:02:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-16T19:03:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-02-17T06:21:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for asking around! There's a short preview in EGM 102 which makes me now think the game is probably <a href="/wiki/Fox_Sports_College_Hoops_%2799" title="Fox Sports College Hoops '99">Fox Sports College Hoops '99</a>. The preview says a still-unnamed basketball game (the preview is under "Z-Axis Basketball", but EGM makes clear that this is not even a provisional title) has been developed by Z-Axis and as of yet has no publisher. Z-Axis is from Silicon Valley, Wikipedia's listing shows the only other N64 game Z-Axis made is Space Invaders, and the release date is after EGM 102 was published, so it all seems to fit. But of course it's all circumstantial evidence, with nothing concrete to link the game mentioned in EGM 100 to the game mentioned in EGM 102, or either one to Fox Sports College Hoops '99. If only the preview had mentioned BMG... argh. Sorry, I just needed to vent a little. Let me know if you stumble upon anything.--<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_IIIa" title="User talk:Martin IIIa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-16T19:03:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-02-17T06:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:03, 16 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-16T19:03:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-02-17T06:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-16T19:03:00.000Z","author":"Martin IIIa","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-16T19:03:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-02-17T06:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-16T19:03:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-16T19:03:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-02-17T06:21:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-16T19:03:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a>:</span> I just don't even know what to say! :) That's a question for the people who were there, maybe on Twitter or linkedin, and maybe they could give a clue to guide RS research. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-16T19:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:15, 13 June 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-16T19:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-16T19:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martin_IIIa-2021-03-20T19:20:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-16T19:03:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martin_IIIa-2021-03-20T19:20:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z"></span>It's been ages, but I've made one small advance in solving the mystery. Next Generation 36 has an article on the game, and this one mentions both Z-Axis as the developer and BMG as the former publisher, so that pretty definitively links the three articles together. Of course, that still leaves the question of whether the game is Fox Sports College Hoops '99, a game which was never finished, or a game which ended up being released for a different platform.--<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_IIIa" title="User talk:Martin IIIa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Martin_IIIa-2021-03-20T19:20:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 20 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martin_IIIa-2021-03-20T19:20:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-20T19:20:00.000Z","author":"Martin IIIa","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martin_IIIa-2021-03-20T19:20:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martin_IIIa-2021-03-20T19:20:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-WhisperToMe-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-KC_stuff-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-WhisperToMe-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z-KC_stuff&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;KC stuff&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;KC stuff&quot;}--><h2 id="KC_stuff" data-mw-thread-id="h-KC_stuff-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-KC_stuff-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z"></span>KC stuff<span data-mw-comment-end="h-KC_stuff-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-WhisperToMe-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-KC_stuff-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-WhisperToMe-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z-KC_stuff"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2020-07-07T23:52:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z","timestamp":"2020-07-07T23:52:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__6__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-WhisperToMe-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-KC_stuff-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-WhisperToMe-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z-KC_stuff&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;KC stuff&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;KC stuff&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WhisperToMe-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z-KC_stuff"></span>Thanks! If you're interested in KCK stuff and have access, it might be nice to check the archives of the <i><a href="/wiki/Kansas_City_Star" class="mw-redirect" title="Kansas City Star">Kansas City Star</a></i> about the openings of the new libraries. <a href="/wiki/User:WhisperToMe" title="User:WhisperToMe">WhisperToMe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WhisperToMe" title="User talk:WhisperToMe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-WhisperToMe-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z-KC_stuff" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:00, 20 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WhisperToMe-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z-KC_stuff"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z","author":"WhisperToMe","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WhisperToMe-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z-KC_stuff","replies":["c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WhisperToMe-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z-KC_stuff"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:WhisperToMe" title="User:WhisperToMe">WhisperToMe</a>:</span> Yeah I'm all over the KC metro and I just renewed my <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:LIBRARY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:LIBRARY">WP:LIBRARY</a> subscription to newspapers.com. I want to expand <a href="/wiki/Hyatt_Regency_walkway_collapse" title="Hyatt Regency walkway collapse">Hyatt Regency walkway collapse</a> and <a href="/wiki/Troost_Avenue" title="Troost Avenue">Troost Avenue</a>, but let me know what you'd like to see. The KCMO library has one employee who is fanatical about Wikipedia and is the main organizer at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MKC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MKC">WP:MKC</a>. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:15, 13 June 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-04-20T21:00:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z"></span>Awesome! I want to get info on the openings of some KCK Library branches: Mr. and Mrs. F.L. Schlagle Library (Opened in 2001), South Branch Library (opened in 2012), and Turner Community Library (unknown to me when it opened)</dd> <dd>Also if you like I can send suggested picture requests for certain sites in the KC metro area that could use some photographs.</dd> <dd>Thanks,</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:WhisperToMe" title="User:WhisperToMe">WhisperToMe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WhisperToMe" title="User talk:WhisperToMe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:54, 13 June 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z","author":"WhisperToMe","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Smuckola-2020-07-07T20:48:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z","c-Smuckola-2020-07-07T23:31:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z","c-Smuckola-2020-07-07T23:52:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2020-07-07T20:48:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:WhisperToMe" title="User:WhisperToMe">WhisperToMe</a>:</span> Yeah I'd like that, and I'm a photographer. In the last day, I published new photos at <a href="/wiki/City_workhouse_castle" title="City workhouse castle">City workhouse castle</a>, <a href="/wiki/Troost_Avenue" title="Troost Avenue">Troost Avenue</a>, and at the bottom of <a href="/wiki/Laugh-O-Gram_Studio" title="Laugh-O-Gram Studio">Laugh-O-Gram Studio</a>. A while ago I did <a href="/wiki/Tiffany_Castle" title="Tiffany Castle">Tiffany Castle</a>. I want to learn mapping so I can put a proper map on Swope Park like they have on <a href="/wiki/Central_Park" title="Central Park">Central Park</a>. I'll have to find the JC Nichols house and his various points of disgrace. I just got my newspapers.com subscription renewed via <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:LIBRARY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:LIBRARY">WP:LIBRARY</a>. Thanks. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2020-07-07T20:48:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:48, 7 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2020-07-07T20:48:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-07T20:48:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Smuckola-2020-07-07T20:48:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2020-07-07T20:48:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2020-07-07T23:31:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z"></span>Did you ever live in the KC metro, or are you just mass-targeting all metro areas with a nuclear bomb of wiki goodness? If you don't mind me asking. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2020-07-07T23:31:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:31, 7 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2020-07-07T23:31:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-07T23:31:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Smuckola-2020-07-07T23:31:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2020-07-07T23:31:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2020-07-07T23:52:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z"></span>I don't remember if you saw it, but I also wrote all the content at <a href="/wiki/City_workhouse_castle" title="City workhouse castle">City workhouse castle</a> and most of it at <a href="/wiki/Tiffany_Castle" title="Tiffany Castle">Tiffany Castle</a>. I wanna write about some <a href="/wiki/Neighborhoods_of_Kansas_City,_Missouri" title="Neighborhoods of Kansas City, Missouri">neighborhoods</a> such as Lykins and Tiffany Springs. If I was given some good key sources, I'd probably write about whatever they are and I'd definitely format and cite them into existing writing. I'll search ye olden KC Star on newspapers.com at some point. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2020-07-07T23:52:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:52, 7 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2020-07-07T23:52:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-07T23:52:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Smuckola-2020-07-07T23:52:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2020-07-07T23:52:00.000Z-WhisperToMe-2020-06-13T23:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Another_64DD_article-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z-Another_64DD_article&quot;,&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-20220806173300-Another_64DD_article&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Another 64DD article&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Another 64DD article&quot;}--><h2 id="Another_64DD_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Another_64DD_article-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Another_64DD_article-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z"></span>Another 64DD article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Another_64DD_article-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Another_64DD_article-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z-Another_64DD_article","c-Martin_IIIa-20220806173300-Another_64DD_article"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-20220807082900-Martin_IIIa-20220806173300","timestamp":"20220807082900"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Another_64DD_article-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z-Another_64DD_article&quot;,&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-20220806173300-Another_64DD_article&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Another 64DD article&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Another 64DD article&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z-Another_64DD_article"></span>The January 1998 issue of EGM has an article on the 64DD. I couldn't immediately see anything useful for WP in it, as it's basically an opinion piece supplemented with some basic facts that we already have sourced, but I thought at the least you'd find it interesting. I found a scan <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://retrocdn.net/index.php?title=File%3AEGM_US_102.pdf&amp;page=25">here</a>.--<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_IIIa" title="User talk:Martin IIIa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z-Another_64DD_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:41, 14 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z-Another_64DD_article"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z","author":"Martin IIIa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z-Another_64DD_article","replies":["c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z","c-Smuckola-2020-08-04T11:06:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z-Another_64DD_article"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a>:</span> aaaaahahaha. Tricorder scan of the disaster site indicate trace residue of interesting factoids to be grafted into the existing framework of lamentable notability. This is a choice find, to underscore the popular lack of confidence in, and objective challenges against, the platform. Well done, sir. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:15, 13 June 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2020-06-13T22:15:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2020-08-04T11:06:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Sergecross73" title="User:Sergecross73">Sergecross73</a>:</span> Check ==> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Resource_Exchange/Resource_Request#It's_so_refreshing!" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request">this</a> &lt;== out. See how cool those guys are as a reference desk. They'll just email you a PDF. You gotta sign up for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:LIBRARY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:LIBRARY">WP:LIBRARY</a>, bro. Go check out <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nintendo_64_Game_Pak&amp;diff=971098154&amp;oldid=971088961&amp;diffmode=source">Nintendo 64 Game Pak</a> because I've licked some of the most stubborn citations there with the new Library search engines. And behold, for you may now READ THE SOURCES. I'm told that you can just click and auto-create a Wikipedia Library Card and read the linked article. Do you have a library card? Let me know if it works. Meanwhile, Internet Archive and retromags and retrocdn and whatnot are blowin up and becoming so complete, as you darn well know. It's a dead tree renaissance. Next, we'll hopefully have the Japanese magazines and newspapers with auto translation for some *real* hometown history lol. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2020-08-04T11:06:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:06, 4 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2020-08-04T11:06:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-04T11:06:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2020-08-04T11:06:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2020-08-04T11:06:00.000Z-Martin_IIIa-2020-05-14T14:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martin_IIIa-20220806173300-Another_64DD_article"></span>I found another 64DD-related article in the February 1998 issue (egad, in over two years I've only advanced a single month through my stack of magazines?) of <i>Next Generation</i>. Scan on Wayback Machine <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://archive.org/details/NextGeneration38Feb1998/page/n23/mode/2up">here</a>. Some interesting points in there but I couldn't see any good way of integrating any of it into Wikipedia's 64DD article; thought you might have better luck since you've had a bigger role in making the article what it is today. No worries if not.--<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_IIIa" title="User talk:Martin IIIa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Martin_IIIa-20220806173300-Another_64DD_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:33, 6 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martin_IIIa-20220806173300-Another_64DD_article"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20220806173300","author":"Martin IIIa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martin_IIIa-20220806173300-Another_64DD_article","replies":["c-Smuckola-20220807082900-Martin_IIIa-20220806173300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martin_IIIa-20220806173300-Another_64DD_article"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-20220807082900-Martin_IIIa-20220806173300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a>:</span> HA HA HA HA <i>!!</i> YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DOING <i>!!</i> You made me do it. I took that and put it in <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nintendo_Space_World&amp;action=history">Nintendo Space World</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nintendo_64_Game_Pak&amp;action=history">Nintendo 64 Game Pak</a>, and <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=64DD&amp;action=history">64DD</a>. I credited you in an edit summary lol. Thanks, that was good. And it made me find a Shoshinkai 1995 issue of <i>Computer and Video Games</i> to cite into <a href="/wiki/Nintendo_64" title="Nintendo 64">Nintendo 64</a>, <a href="/wiki/64DD" title="64DD">64DD</a>, and others. I don't remember having seen specs for Project Reality and Bulky Drive before, though I probably did! BTW, check out <a href="/wiki/Nintendo_64_Game_Pak#Manufacturing_cost" title="Nintendo 64 Game Pak">Nintendo_64_Game_Pak#Manufacturing_cost</a> and let me know if you think that my inflation calculation prose is ok, because that's pretty important to a section about intricate costs at a certain historical mark. I mean, with a numerous list like that, I just abbreviated it as direct parentheses without the repeated "equivalent to". The inflation calculator policy is very against original research in numbers but it doesn't give examples on how to do that. Now that I say this aloud, I'll post this query to <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:US$" title="Template talk:US$">Template_talk:US$</a>, lol. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-20220807082900-Martin_IIIa-20220806173300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:29, 7 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-20220807082900-Martin_IIIa-20220806173300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20220807082900","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-20220807082900-Martin_IIIa-20220806173300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-20220807082900-Martin_IIIa-20220806173300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Namcokid47-2020-05-23T03:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Collaboration_on_Tetris_64-2020-05-23T03:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Namcokid47-2020-05-23T03:10:00.000Z-Collaboration_on_Tetris_64&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Collaboration on Tetris 64&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Collaboration on Tetris 64&quot;}--><h2 id="Collaboration_on_Tetris_64" data-mw-thread-id="h-Collaboration_on_Tetris_64-2020-05-23T03:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Collaboration_on_Tetris_64-2020-05-23T03:10:00.000Z"></span>Collaboration on <i>Tetris 64</i><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Collaboration_on_Tetris_64-2020-05-23T03:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Namcokid47-2020-05-23T03:10:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Collaboration_on_Tetris_64-2020-05-23T03:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Namcokid47-2020-05-23T03:10:00.000Z-Collaboration_on_Tetris_64"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Namcokid47-2020-05-23T03:10:00.000Z-Collaboration_on_Tetris_64","timestamp":"2020-05-23T03:10:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Namcokid47-2020-05-23T03:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Collaboration_on_Tetris_64-2020-05-23T03:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Namcokid47-2020-05-23T03:10:00.000Z-Collaboration_on_Tetris_64&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Collaboration on Tetris 64&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Collaboration on Tetris 64&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Namcokid47-2020-05-23T03:10:00.000Z-Collaboration_on_Tetris_64"></span>Hello! A while back we did a sort-of collab on <i><a href="/wiki/Radar_Scope" title="Radar Scope">Radar Scope</a></i>, which became a GA. I was wondering you'd be up to doing another one with me? I was thinking of bringing <i><a href="/wiki/Tetris_64" title="Tetris 64">Tetris 64</a></i> for the Nintendo 64 to GA, as I find it to be one of the most unique takes on the Russian puzzle game (specifically for the Bio Sensor, what a weird gadget that is....). I notice that you often edit articles related to the N64, so I thought this would be of some interest to you. Lemme know if you're up for this! <a href="/wiki/User:Namcokid47" title="User:Namcokid47"><span style="color: #009999">Namcokid</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Namcokid47" title="User talk:Namcokid47"><span style="color: #cc0000">47</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Namcokid47" title="Special:Contributions/Namcokid47"><span style="color: #0073e6">(Contribs)</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Namcokid47-2020-05-23T03:10:00.000Z-Collaboration_on_Tetris_64" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:10, 23 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Namcokid47-2020-05-23T03:10:00.000Z-Collaboration_on_Tetris_64"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-23T03:10:00.000Z","author":"Namcokid47","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Namcokid47-2020-05-23T03:10:00.000Z-Collaboration_on_Tetris_64","replies":[],"displayName":"Namcokid"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Namcokid47-2020-05-23T03:10:00.000Z-Collaboration_on_Tetris_64"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Airborne84-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Upcoming_FAC_nomination-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Airborne84-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z-Upcoming_FAC_nomination&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Upcoming FAC nomination&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Upcoming FAC nomination&quot;}--><h2 id="Upcoming_FAC_nomination" data-mw-thread-id="h-Upcoming_FAC_nomination-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Upcoming_FAC_nomination-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z"></span>Upcoming FAC nomination<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Upcoming_FAC_nomination-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Airborne84-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Upcoming_FAC_nomination-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Airborne84-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z-Upcoming_FAC_nomination"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2020-07-22T11:30:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:27:00.000Z","timestamp":"2020-07-22T11:30:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Airborne84-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Upcoming_FAC_nomination-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Airborne84-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z-Upcoming_FAC_nomination&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Upcoming FAC nomination&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Upcoming FAC nomination&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Airborne84-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z-Upcoming_FAC_nomination"></span>Hi Smuckola. Saw your Retro Motivation section on your talk page. Resonates. I did quite a bit of work on <i><a href="/wiki/Telengard" title="Telengard">Telengard</a></i> and some on <i><a href="/wiki/The_Bard%27s_Tale" title="The Bard's Tale">The Bard's Tale</a></i> and <i><a href="/wiki/The_Bard%27s_Tale_II" class="mw-redirect" title="The Bard's Tale II">The Bard's Tale II</a></i>, among others. I'm about to bring a play-by-mail game article that started in the 1980s (still going) called <i><a href="/wiki/Hyborian_War" title="Hyborian War">Hyborian War</a></i> set in <a href="/wiki/Conan_the_Barbarian" title="Conan the Barbarian">Conan's</a> <a href="/wiki/Hyborian_Age" title="Hyborian Age">Hyborian Age</a> to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FAC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FAC">Featured Article nomination</a> page in about a week. I saw that you're a member of Wikiproject Role Playing Games, so if you review Featured Articles, please consider reviewing it. I'm a bit concerned that it will sit unreviewed given that it's a niche (retro) topic. Thanks for your time. <a href="/wiki/User:Airborne84" title="User:Airborne84">Airborne84</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airborne84" title="User talk:Airborne84">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Airborne84-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z-Upcoming_FAC_nomination" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:00, 31 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airborne84-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z-Upcoming_FAC_nomination"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z","author":"Airborne84","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Airborne84-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z-Upcoming_FAC_nomination","replies":["c-Airborne84-2020-06-14T02:22:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Airborne84-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z-Upcoming_FAC_nomination"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Airborne84-2020-06-14T02:22:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z"></span>Hi Smuckola. I just posted the <i>Hyborian War</i> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates#Hyborian_War" title="Wikipedia:Featured article candidates">Featured Article renomination</a>. If you get some time in the coming week or two, would appreciate a review. Thanks for your time. <a href="/wiki/User:Airborne84" title="User:Airborne84">Airborne84</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airborne84" title="User talk:Airborne84">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Airborne84-2020-06-14T02:22:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:22, 14 June 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airborne84-2020-06-14T02:22:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-14T02:22:00.000Z","author":"Airborne84","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Airborne84-2020-06-14T02:22:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:19:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-06-14T02:22:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Airborne84-2020-06-14T02:22:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-05-31T07:00:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Airborne84" title="User:Airborne84"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:19:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-06-14T02:22:00.000Z"></span>Airborne84</a> Well my friend, I am not an official reviewer, just a copy editor. And maybe if there's some specific aspect of an article that needs clarification or refinement, I can look from different perspectives. I like to pay respect to people who are doing high quality work, especially to weird obscure stuff and lost causes. I've never seen a PBM so I'll learn about that by copy editing it! — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> 05:23, 14 June 2020 (UTC <dl><dd>Thanks Smuckola. I did have someone from the Guild of Copyeditors go through and do a thorough copyedit (twice actually, once for Good Article and once for Featured Article). And there are no "official reviewers", but I understand if you haven't reviewed any articles before. Of course, you are still welcome to copyedit if you would like. If you do, you could "comment" afterward (vs "support" or "oppose" if not comfortable with those) on the nomination, noting that you checked only from a copyediting perspective—noting your thoughts. Or not. Thanks for your time and interest! <a href="/wiki/User:Airborne84" title="User:Airborne84">Airborne84</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airborne84" title="User talk:Airborne84">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:19:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-06-14T02:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:19, 14 June 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:19:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-06-14T02:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-14T14:19:00.000Z","author":"Airborne84","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:19:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-06-14T02:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:27:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:19:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:19:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-06-14T02:22:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:27:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:19:00.000Z"></span>Just saw the copyediting on <i>Hyborian War</i>. Really nice work, thanks! I appreciate it. Believe that will be helpful at the nomination page. Again, no worries about posting there if you haven't reviewed before; this was very helpful! <a href="/wiki/User:Airborne84" title="User:Airborne84">Airborne84</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airborne84" title="User talk:Airborne84">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:27:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:27, 14 June 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:27:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-14T14:27:00.000Z","author":"Airborne84","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:27:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Smuckola-2020-07-22T11:30:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:27:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:27:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2020-07-22T11:30:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Airborne84" title="User:Airborne84">Airborne84</a>:</span> I'm amazed that it helped. I would comment to you for sure, that I had to really parse some of it from a copy editing standpoint but I couldn't understand a lot of the very intense and obscure lingo :) — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2020-07-22T11:30:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:30, 22 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2020-07-22T11:30:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-22T11:30:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Smuckola-2020-07-22T11:30:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2020-07-22T11:30:00.000Z-Airborne84-2020-06-14T14:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Guy_Harris-2020-06-24T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-\&quot;Apple_Silicon_is_not_ARM\&quot;?-2020-06-24T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Guy_Harris-2020-06-24T20:23:00.000Z-\&quot;Apple_Silicon_is_not_ARM\&quot;?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;\&quot;Apple Silicon is not ARM\&quot;?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;\&quot;Apple Silicon is not ARM\&quot;?&quot;}--><h2 id="&quot;Apple_Silicon_is_not_ARM&quot;?" data-mw-thread-id="h-&quot;Apple_Silicon_is_not_ARM&quot;?-2020-06-24T20:23:00.000Z"><span id=".22Apple_Silicon_is_not_ARM.22.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-&quot;Apple_Silicon_is_not_ARM&quot;?-2020-06-24T20:23:00.000Z"></span>"Apple Silicon is not ARM"?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-&quot;Apple_Silicon_is_not_ARM&quot;?-2020-06-24T20:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Guy_Harris-2020-06-24T20:23:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"Apple_Silicon_is_not_ARM\"?-2020-06-24T20:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Guy_Harris-2020-06-24T20:23:00.000Z-\"Apple_Silicon_is_not_ARM\"?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Guy_Harris-2020-06-24T20:23:00.000Z-\"Apple_Silicon_is_not_ARM\"?","timestamp":"2020-06-24T20:23:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Guy_Harris-2020-06-24T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-\&quot;Apple_Silicon_is_not_ARM\&quot;?-2020-06-24T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Guy_Harris-2020-06-24T20:23:00.000Z-\&quot;Apple_Silicon_is_not_ARM\&quot;?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;\&quot;Apple Silicon is not ARM\&quot;?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;\&quot;Apple Silicon is not ARM\&quot;?&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_Harris-2020-06-24T20:23:00.000Z-&quot;Apple_Silicon_is_not_ARM&quot;?"></span>That French piece sounds similar to <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/06/23/why-the-macs-migration-to-apple-silicon-is-bigger-than-arm">this column</a>. I don't know if that's a case of independently coming up with the same ideas - including the comparison to how Apple uses UNIX - or one copying from the other. </p><p>I'm not sure, but both seem to think that "ARM" means "CPU core designed by ARM" and to imply that the A-series SoCs use cores designed by ARM. They haven't done so since the <a href="/wiki/Apple_A5" title="Apple A5">A5</a> - the <a href="/wiki/Apple_A5" title="Apple A5">A6</a> has an Apple-designed core, has have all the subsequent A-series SoCs. They implement the "A" (application processor) profiles of v7 and v8 versions of the <a href="/wiki/ARM_architecture" class="mw-redirect" title="ARM architecture">ARM architecture</a>, for which Apple has an architectural license, but the processor designs are from Apple, not ARM. </p><p>But I <i>guess</i> the point they're making is that there's a lot of stuff outside the CPU core that's designed by Apple and isn't just implementing an ARM-designed instruction set. True, but "we can not therefore say that Apple "switches to ARM"", from the Google translation of the French article, is bogus - the new processors implement a different instruction set, which affects developers, so, yeah, among other things, they are switching from x86-64 to ARM64. <a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Harris" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Guy Harris">Guy Harris</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Harris" title="User talk:Guy Harris">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Guy_Harris-2020-06-24T20:23:00.000Z-&quot;Apple_Silicon_is_not_ARM&quot;?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:23, 24 June 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_Harris-2020-06-24T20:23:00.000Z-&quot;Apple_Silicon_is_not_ARM&quot;?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-24T20:23:00.000Z","author":"Guy Harris","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Guy_Harris-2020-06-24T20:23:00.000Z-\"Apple_Silicon_is_not_ARM\"?","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_Harris-2020-06-24T20:23:00.000Z-&quot;Apple_Silicon_is_not_ARM&quot;?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Guy_Harris-2020-06-25T00:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-+1_for_changing_\&quot;[Apple's]_personal_computer_product_line\&quot;_to_\&quot;Macintosh\&quot;-2020-06-25T00:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Guy_Harris-2020-06-25T00:07:00.000Z-+1_for_changing_\&quot;[Apple's]_personal_computer_product_line\&quot;_to_\&quot;Macintosh\&quot;&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;+1 for changing \&quot;[Apple's] personal computer product line\&quot; to \&quot;Macintosh\&quot;&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;+1 for changing \&quot;[Apple's] personal computer product line\&quot; to \&quot;Macintosh\&quot;&quot;}--><h2 id="+1_for_changing_&quot;[Apple's]_personal_computer_product_line&quot;_to_&quot;Macintosh&quot;" data-mw-thread-id="h-+1_for_changing_&quot;[Apple&#039;s]_personal_computer_product_line&quot;_to_&quot;Macintosh&quot;-2020-06-25T00:07:00.000Z"><span id=".2B1_for_changing_.22.5BApple.27s.5D_personal_computer_product_line.22_to_.22Macintosh.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-+1_for_changing_&quot;[Apple's]_personal_computer_product_line&quot;_to_&quot;Macintosh&quot;-2020-06-25T00:07:00.000Z"></span>+1 for changing "[Apple's] personal computer product line" to "Macintosh"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-+1_for_changing_&quot;[Apple's]_personal_computer_product_line&quot;_to_&quot;Macintosh&quot;-2020-06-25T00:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Guy_Harris-2020-06-25T00:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-+1_for_changing_\"[Apple's]_personal_computer_product_line\"_to_\"Macintosh\"-2020-06-25T00:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Guy_Harris-2020-06-25T00:07:00.000Z-+1_for_changing_\"[Apple's]_personal_computer_product_line\"_to_\"Macintosh\""]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Guy_Harris-2020-06-25T00:07:00.000Z-+1_for_changing_\"[Apple's]_personal_computer_product_line\"_to_\"Macintosh\"","timestamp":"2020-06-25T00:07:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Guy_Harris-2020-06-25T00:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-+1_for_changing_\&quot;[Apple's]_personal_computer_product_line\&quot;_to_\&quot;Macintosh\&quot;-2020-06-25T00:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Guy_Harris-2020-06-25T00:07:00.000Z-+1_for_changing_\&quot;[Apple's]_personal_computer_product_line\&quot;_to_\&quot;Macintosh\&quot;&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;+1 for changing \&quot;[Apple's] personal computer product line\&quot; to \&quot;Macintosh\&quot;&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;+1 for changing \&quot;[Apple's] personal computer product line\&quot; to \&quot;Macintosh\&quot;&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guy_Harris-2020-06-25T00:07:00.000Z-+1_for_changing_&quot;[Apple's]_personal_computer_product_line&quot;_to_&quot;Macintosh&quot;"></span>The <i>first</i> instruction set transition was from the <a href="/wiki/6502" class="mw-redirect" title="6502">6502</a> to the <a href="/wiki/68000_family" class="mw-redirect" title="68000 family">68000 family</a> (although, to be fair, that wasn't transitioning an existing line to a new ISA, it was introducing a new line with a new ISA), so extra credit for <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mac_transition_to_ARM&amp;type=revision&amp;diff=964343315&amp;oldid=964338838">this edit</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Guy_Harris" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Guy Harris">Guy Harris</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Harris" title="User talk:Guy Harris">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Guy_Harris-2020-06-25T00:07:00.000Z-+1_for_changing_&quot;[Apple's]_personal_computer_product_line&quot;_to_&quot;Macintosh&quot;" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:07, 25 June 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guy_Harris-2020-06-25T00:07:00.000Z-+1_for_changing_&quot;[Apple's]_personal_computer_product_line&quot;_to_&quot;Macintosh&quot;"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-25T00:07:00.000Z","author":"Guy Harris","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Guy_Harris-2020-06-25T00:07:00.000Z-+1_for_changing_\"[Apple's]_personal_computer_product_line\"_to_\"Macintosh\"","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guy_Harris-2020-06-25T00:07:00.000Z-+1_for_changing_&quot;[Apple's]_personal_computer_product_line&quot;_to_&quot;Macintosh&quot;"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Jerryobject-2020-08-12T09:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thanks_for_the_thanks-2020-08-12T09:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Jerryobject-2020-08-12T09:14:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks&quot;,&quot;c-Jerryobject-2020-08-18T13:26:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks&quot;,&quot;c-Jerryobject-2020-08-28T12:32:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thanks for the thanks&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thanks for the thanks&quot;}--><h2 id="Thanks_for_the_thanks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks_for_the_thanks-2020-08-12T09:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks_for_the_thanks-2020-08-12T09:14:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the thanks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks_for_the_thanks-2020-08-12T09:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Jerryobject-2020-08-12T09:14:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Thanks_for_the_thanks-2020-08-12T09:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jerryobject-2020-08-12T09:14:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks","c-Jerryobject-2020-08-18T13:26:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks","c-Jerryobject-2020-08-28T12:32:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Jerryobject-2020-08-28T12:32:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks","timestamp":"2020-08-28T12:32:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Jerryobject-2020-08-12T09:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thanks_for_the_thanks-2020-08-12T09:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Jerryobject-2020-08-12T09:14:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks&quot;,&quot;c-Jerryobject-2020-08-18T13:26:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks&quot;,&quot;c-Jerryobject-2020-08-28T12:32:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thanks for the thanks&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thanks for the thanks&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jerryobject-2020-08-12T09:14:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks"></span>Thank you kindly for the thank you notification, for my addition to Template:Microkernel yesterday. Stay safe! – <a href="/wiki/User:Jerryobject" title="User:Jerryobject">Jerryobject</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jerryobject" title="User talk:Jerryobject">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Jerryobject-2020-08-12T09:14:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:14, 12 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jerryobject-2020-08-12T09:14:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-12T09:14:00.000Z","author":"Jerryobject","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jerryobject-2020-08-12T09:14:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jerryobject-2020-08-12T09:14:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jerryobject-2020-08-18T13:26:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks"></span>Thank you again, this time for two thank you notifications, for my edits to article Taligent‬ two days ago. You may be one of the most pleasant and polite editors on Wikipedia! – <a href="/wiki/User:Jerryobject" title="User:Jerryobject">Jerryobject</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jerryobject" title="User talk:Jerryobject">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Jerryobject-2020-08-18T13:26:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:26, 18 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jerryobject-2020-08-18T13:26:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-18T13:26:00.000Z","author":"Jerryobject","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jerryobject-2020-08-18T13:26:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jerryobject-2020-08-18T13:26:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jerryobject-2020-08-28T12:32:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks"></span>Thanks yet again, this time for several thank you notifications over the past few weeks, for my edits to various articles. You make me feel appreciated. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jerryobject" title="User:Jerryobject">Jerryobject</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jerryobject" title="User talk:Jerryobject">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Jerryobject-2020-08-28T12:32:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:32, 28 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jerryobject-2020-08-28T12:32:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-28T12:32:00.000Z","author":"Jerryobject","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jerryobject-2020-08-28T12:32:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jerryobject-2020-08-28T12:32:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_thanks"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_kitten_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_kitten_for_you!"><span id="A_kitten_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_kitten_for_you!"></span>A kitten for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_kitten_for_you!"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_kitten_for_you!","replies":[]}}--></div> <figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Red_Kitten_01.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Red_Kitten_01.jpg/150px-Red_Kitten_01.jpg" decoding="async" width="150" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Red_Kitten_01.jpg/225px-Red_Kitten_01.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Red_Kitten_01.jpg/300px-Red_Kitten_01.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3456" data-file-height="2304"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Thanks for all of your editing and wiki support! </p><p>KCLibrarian 23:20, 20 October 2020 (UTC) <br style="clear: both;"/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sesu_Prime-2020-12-26T01:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-re:Nintendo_Power_224_&amp;_226-2020-12-26T01:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sesu_Prime-2020-12-26T01:05:00.000Z-re:Nintendo_Power_224_&amp;_226&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;re:Nintendo Power 224 &amp; 226&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;re:Nintendo Power 224 &amp; 226&quot;}--><h2 id="re:Nintendo_Power_224_&amp;_226" data-mw-thread-id="h-re:Nintendo_Power_224_&amp;_226-2020-12-26T01:05:00.000Z"><span id="re:Nintendo_Power_224_.26_226"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-re:Nintendo_Power_224_&amp;_226-2020-12-26T01:05:00.000Z"></span>re:Nintendo Power 224 &amp; 226<span data-mw-comment-end="h-re:Nintendo_Power_224_&amp;_226-2020-12-26T01:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sesu_Prime-2020-12-26T01:05:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-re:Nintendo_Power_224_&amp;_226-2020-12-26T01:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sesu_Prime-2020-12-26T01:05:00.000Z-re:Nintendo_Power_224_&amp;_226"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Sesu_Prime-2020-12-26T01:05:00.000Z-re:Nintendo_Power_224_&amp;_226","timestamp":"2020-12-26T01:05:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sesu_Prime-2020-12-26T01:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-re:Nintendo_Power_224_&amp;_226-2020-12-26T01:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sesu_Prime-2020-12-26T01:05:00.000Z-re:Nintendo_Power_224_&amp;_226&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;re:Nintendo Power 224 &amp; 226&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;re:Nintendo Power 224 &amp; 226&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sesu_Prime-2020-12-26T01:05:00.000Z-re:Nintendo_Power_224_&amp;_226"></span>Greetings! I left a link to the scans at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dexxor#re:Nintendo_Power_224_&amp;_226" title="User talk:Dexxor">User talk:Dexxor#re:Nintendo Power 224 &amp; 226</a>. Cheers! <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sesu_Prime" title="User talk:Sesu Prime"><b>Sesu Prime</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Sesu_Prime-2020-12-26T01:05:00.000Z-re:Nintendo_Power_224_&amp;_226" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:05, 26 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sesu_Prime-2020-12-26T01:05:00.000Z-re:Nintendo_Power_224_&amp;_226"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-26T01:05:00.000Z","author":"Sesu Prime","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sesu_Prime-2020-12-26T01:05:00.000Z-re:Nintendo_Power_224_&amp;_226","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sesu_Prime-2020-12-26T01:05:00.000Z-re:Nintendo_Power_224_&amp;_226"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Voidxor-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-2021_MLK_Day_of_Service-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Voidxor-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z-2021_MLK_Day_of_Service&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;2021 MLK Day of Service&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;2021 MLK Day of Service&quot;}--><h2 id="2021_MLK_Day_of_Service" data-mw-thread-id="h-2021_MLK_Day_of_Service-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-2021_MLK_Day_of_Service-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z"></span>2021 MLK Day of Service<span data-mw-comment-end="h-2021_MLK_Day_of_Service-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Voidxor-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-2021_MLK_Day_of_Service-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Voidxor-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z-2021_MLK_Day_of_Service"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2021-10-13T00:13:00.000Z-Voidxor-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-10-13T00:13:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Voidxor-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-2021_MLK_Day_of_Service-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Voidxor-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z-2021_MLK_Day_of_Service&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;2021 MLK Day of Service&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;2021 MLK Day of Service&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Voidxor-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z-2021_MLK_Day_of_Service"></span>Thanks for the thanks. If you're <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">stalking</a> me, did you happen to see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Kansas_City/2021_MLK_Day_of_Service" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/Kansas City/2021 MLK Day of Service">this</a>? Though, I'm wondering if she intended to schedule it on <a href="/wiki/Martin_Luther_King_Jr._Day" title="Martin Luther King Jr. Day">Martin Luther King Jr. Day</a>. – <kbd><a href="/wiki/User:Voidxor" title="User:Voidxor"><span style="color: #00F">void</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Voidxor" title="User talk:Voidxor"><span style="color: #000">xor</span></a></kbd> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Voidxor-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z-2021_MLK_Day_of_Service" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:31, 2 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Voidxor-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z-2021_MLK_Day_of_Service"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z","author":"Voidxor","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Voidxor-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z-2021_MLK_Day_of_Service","replies":["c-Smuckola-2021-10-13T00:13:00.000Z-Voidxor-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z"],"displayName":"void"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Voidxor-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z-2021_MLK_Day_of_Service"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2021-10-13T00:13:00.000Z-Voidxor-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Voidxor" title="User:Voidxor">Voidxor</a>:</span> Whoops! Man I forgot to reply to this! Yes I was just stalking you for a minute! :D And I thought I'd give my moral support for your struggle against weird stuff. I hope you're doing ok and we should hang out again. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2021-10-13T00:13:00.000Z-Voidxor-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:13, 13 October 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2021-10-13T00:13:00.000Z-Voidxor-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-10-13T00:13:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2021-10-13T00:13:00.000Z-Voidxor-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2021-10-13T00:13:00.000Z-Voidxor-2021-01-02T20:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2021-01-03T06:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Joseph_Waeckerle-2021-01-03T06:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2021-01-03T06:53:00.000Z-Joseph_Waeckerle&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Joseph Waeckerle&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Joseph Waeckerle&quot;}--><h2 id="Joseph_Waeckerle" data-mw-thread-id="h-Joseph_Waeckerle-2021-01-03T06:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Joseph_Waeckerle-2021-01-03T06:53:00.000Z"></span>Joseph Waeckerle<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Joseph_Waeckerle-2021-01-03T06:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2021-01-03T06:53:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Joseph_Waeckerle-2021-01-03T06:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2021-01-03T06:53:00.000Z-Joseph_Waeckerle"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2021-01-03T06:53:00.000Z-Joseph_Waeckerle","timestamp":"2021-01-03T06:53:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2021-01-03T06:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Joseph_Waeckerle-2021-01-03T06:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2021-01-03T06:53:00.000Z-Joseph_Waeckerle&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Joseph Waeckerle&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Joseph Waeckerle&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2021-01-03T06:53:00.000Z-Joseph_Waeckerle"></span>Thanks for that category cleanup. Interesting: I added those categories via mobile (my first time doing so), and didn't realize that one had taken multiple times. (There's probably a way to check via mobile, but when I saw the final product it didn't register; everything looked normal.) </p><p>Ah, well. Something for me to remember the next time I want to use mobile to add categories. --<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT"><a href="/wiki/User:Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao">Ser Amantio di Nicolao</a></span><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="User talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao"><i>Che dicono a Signa?</i></a></sup><sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao">Lo dicono a Signa.</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2021-01-03T06:53:00.000Z-Joseph_Waeckerle" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:53, 3 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2021-01-03T06:53:00.000Z-Joseph_Waeckerle"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-01-03T06:53:00.000Z","author":"Ser Amantio di Nicolao","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2021-01-03T06:53:00.000Z-Joseph_Waeckerle","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2021-01-03T06:53:00.000Z-Joseph_Waeckerle"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!_8" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_8"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21_8"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_8"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_8"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_barnstar_for_you!_8","replies":[]}}--></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png/100px-Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png/150px-Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png/200px-Barnstar_of_Diligence_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Barnstar of Diligence</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">You are a hero! Thank you so much for helping me and @Amoncure with our virtual edit-a-thon. You have been such a tremendous source of expertise and guidance, and without you, our impact would be greatly diminished. KCLibrarian 18:43, 11 January 2021 (UTC) </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!_9" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_9"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21_9"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_9"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_9"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_barnstar_for_you!_9","replies":[]}}--></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Original_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Original Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Smuckola does it again! Thank you for your fantastic contributions to the Kansas City Metropolitan Area and related pages. Much wow! KCLibrarian 21:41, 11 February 2021 (UTC) </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-GoneIn60-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Another_favor-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-GoneIn60-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z-Another_favor&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Another favor&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Another favor&quot;}--><h2 id="Another_favor" data-mw-thread-id="h-Another_favor-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Another_favor-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z"></span>Another favor<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Another_favor-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-GoneIn60-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Another_favor-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-GoneIn60-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z-Another_favor"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-2022-01-19T03:50:00.000Z-GoneIn60-2022-01-19T03:14:00.000Z","timestamp":"2022-01-19T03:50:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-GoneIn60-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Another_favor-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-GoneIn60-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z-Another_favor&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Another favor&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Another favor&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoneIn60-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z-Another_favor"></span>Hoping you could look up a page published in the Middletown Journal News (Ohio) on June 13, 2014. I'm looking for Page 15 that covers LeSourdsville Lake amusement park. Thanks in advance! --<a href="/wiki/User:GoneIn60" title="User:GoneIn60">GoneIn60</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoneIn60" title="User talk:GoneIn60">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-GoneIn60-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z-Another_favor" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 17 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoneIn60-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z-Another_favor"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z","author":"GoneIn60","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GoneIn60-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z-Another_favor","replies":["c-Smuckola-2022-01-18T18:28:00.000Z-GoneIn60-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoneIn60-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z-Another_favor"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2022-01-18T18:28:00.000Z-GoneIn60-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GoneIn60" title="User:GoneIn60">GoneIn60</a>:</span> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://imgur.com/a/pbDWQD3">Victory!</a> They do page numbers like "B3" and newspapers.com internally calls it page 18 which is irrelevant, so you can cite it as "page=B3". Allow me to contribute a formatting: &lt;ref name="BC amusement">{{cite news | title=Butler County amusement park a memorable place | newspaper=[[Journal-News]] | location=[[Middleton, Ohio]] | first=Roger | last=Miller | date=June 13, 2014 | page=B7 | url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/445466187/ | via=[[Newspapers.com]] | url-access=registration | access-date=January 18, 2022}}&lt;/ref> The search function was really weird and it took about 10 ways to find it. BTW for Christmas I got my sweetie a 2022 season pass to <a href="/wiki/Worlds_of_Fun" title="Worlds of Fun">Worlds of Fun</a> so let's hope Cedar Fair starts paying a living wage, staffing more than just idle children, have more than half the rides and restaurants open, and are open closer to 7 days a week this year, unlike in 2021. "Hope" is the operative word. I bought it out of pure hope for the future! — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2022-01-18T18:28:00.000Z-GoneIn60-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:28, 18 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2022-01-18T18:28:00.000Z-GoneIn60-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-01-18T18:28:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2022-01-18T18:28:00.000Z-GoneIn60-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-GoneIn60-2022-01-19T03:14:00.000Z-Smuckola-2022-01-18T18:28:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2022-01-18T18:28:00.000Z-GoneIn60-2022-01-17T20:14:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoneIn60-2022-01-19T03:14:00.000Z-Smuckola-2022-01-18T18:28:00.000Z"></span>Excellent, thanks for digging that up! Just as I suspected, quite a bit of the <a href="/wiki/LeSourdsville_Lake_Amusement_Park" title="LeSourdsville Lake Amusement Park">LeSourdsville Lake</a> article plagiarizes this source. Oh well, got some cleanup to do!<div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div>I've never been to Worlds of Fun, but I've got Kings Island and Cedar Point nearby. If you've never been to either, I suggest you put them on your bucket list and knock them out while you can still ride coasters! Hopefully your 2022 turns out better than 2021, cheers! --<a href="/wiki/User:GoneIn60" title="User:GoneIn60">GoneIn60</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoneIn60" title="User talk:GoneIn60">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-GoneIn60-2022-01-19T03:14:00.000Z-Smuckola-2022-01-18T18:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:14, 19 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoneIn60-2022-01-19T03:14:00.000Z-Smuckola-2022-01-18T18:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-01-19T03:14:00.000Z","author":"GoneIn60","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-GoneIn60-2022-01-19T03:14:00.000Z-Smuckola-2022-01-18T18:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Smuckola-2022-01-19T03:50:00.000Z-GoneIn60-2022-01-19T03:14:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoneIn60-2022-01-19T03:14:00.000Z-Smuckola-2022-01-18T18:28:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2022-01-19T03:50:00.000Z-GoneIn60-2022-01-19T03:14:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GoneIn60" title="User:GoneIn60">GoneIn60</a>:</span> Hoo boy that article is about 90% pure <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FANCRUFT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FANCRUFT">WP:FANCRUFT</a> which needs to be deleted! That kind of stuff belongs on a fan site and furthermore, I'd suspect it for plagiarism therefrom too! lol I bet that's true of a lot of roller coaster and park articles. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2022-01-19T03:50:00.000Z-GoneIn60-2022-01-19T03:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:50, 19 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2022-01-19T03:50:00.000Z-GoneIn60-2022-01-19T03:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-01-19T03:50:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Smuckola-2022-01-19T03:50:00.000Z-GoneIn60-2022-01-19T03:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2022-01-19T03:50:00.000Z-GoneIn60-2022-01-19T03:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-ChauSVCF-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Article_layout_assistance-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-ChauSVCF-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z-Article_layout_assistance&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Article layout assistance&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Article layout assistance&quot;}--><h2 id="Article_layout_assistance" data-mw-thread-id="h-Article_layout_assistance-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Article_layout_assistance-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z"></span>Article layout assistance<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Article_layout_assistance-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ChauSVCF-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Article_layout_assistance-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-ChauSVCF-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z-Article_layout_assistance"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ChauSVCF-2022-04-08T21:18:00.000Z-Smuckola-2022-03-11T20:31:00.000Z","timestamp":"2022-04-08T21:18:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-ChauSVCF-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Article_layout_assistance-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-ChauSVCF-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z-Article_layout_assistance&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Article layout assistance&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Article layout assistance&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ChauSVCF-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z-Article_layout_assistance"></span>Hello <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">User:Smuckola</a>. I see you made some edits to the <a href="/wiki/Silicon_Valley_Community_Foundation" title="Silicon Valley Community Foundation">Silicon Valley Community Foundation</a> article last year. I work for the organization and therefore have a COI relationship and can’t perform direct edits. I wanted to ask your thoughts on helping to improve the article layout. I’ve been reading the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Layout" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout">Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout</a> and see that the way the article is currently set up with many short sections may not be in compliance with the section on layout. I am interested in improving the article overall and wonder if you would have time and interest in helping with this type of format clean up? </p><p>Reference for this request: “Very short sections and subsections clutter an article with headings and inhibit the flow of the prose. Short paragraphs and single sentences generally do not warrant their own subheading.” </p><p>Thank you for your consideration. Best <a href="/wiki/User:ChauSVCF" title="User:ChauSVCF">ChauSVCF</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ChauSVCF" title="User talk:ChauSVCF">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-ChauSVCF-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z-Article_layout_assistance" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:39, 10 February 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ChauSVCF-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z-Article_layout_assistance"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z","author":"ChauSVCF","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ChauSVCF-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z-Article_layout_assistance","replies":["c-Smuckola-2022-03-11T20:31:00.000Z-ChauSVCF-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ChauSVCF-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z-Article_layout_assistance"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-2022-03-11T20:31:00.000Z-ChauSVCF-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:ChauSVCF" title="User:ChauSVCF">ChauSVCF</a>:</span> Hi there. I really appreciate how involved and technically genuinely concerned you guys have been. I moved to Silicon Valley from 1998-2003 for the dot com boom and the Linux community, so I appreciate those ideas. It's a tough balance to know what is due weight on an article about a community organization, without turning it into a resume of press releases. I try to avoid "I did this and I did this and I did this and then this happened etc". There must be a focus upon major ideas that have <i>multiple</i> secondary sources. I'll take a look. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-2022-03-11T20:31:00.000Z-ChauSVCF-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:31, 11 March 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-2022-03-11T20:31:00.000Z-ChauSVCF-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-03-11T20:31:00.000Z","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-2022-03-11T20:31:00.000Z-ChauSVCF-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-ChauSVCF-2022-04-08T21:18:00.000Z-Smuckola-2022-03-11T20:31:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-2022-03-11T20:31:00.000Z-ChauSVCF-2022-02-10T22:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ChauSVCF-2022-04-08T21:18:00.000Z-Smuckola-2022-03-11T20:31:00.000Z"></span>Dear <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">User:Smuckola</a>, thank you so much for your feedback and response. I just uploaded a few proposed improvements today to the article about <a href="/wiki/Silicon_Valley_Community_Foundation" title="Silicon Valley Community Foundation">Silicon Valley Community Foundation</a>. Any feedback you have to the latest requests would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, <a href="/wiki/User:ChauSVCF" title="User:ChauSVCF">ChauSVCF</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ChauSVCF" title="User talk:ChauSVCF">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-ChauSVCF-2022-04-08T21:18:00.000Z-Smuckola-2022-03-11T20:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:18, 8 April 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ChauSVCF-2022-04-08T21:18:00.000Z-Smuckola-2022-03-11T20:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-04-08T21:18:00.000Z","author":"ChauSVCF","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ChauSVCF-2022-04-08T21:18:00.000Z-Smuckola-2022-03-11T20:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ChauSVCF-2022-04-08T21:18:00.000Z-Smuckola-2022-03-11T20:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Michael_Hardy-2022-03-19T15:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Essay?-2022-03-19T15:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Michael_Hardy-2022-03-19T15:52:00.000Z-Essay?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Essay?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Essay?&quot;}--><h2 id="Essay?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Essay?-2022-03-19T15:52:00.000Z"><span id="Essay.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Essay?-2022-03-19T15:52:00.000Z"></span>Essay?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Essay?-2022-03-19T15:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Michael_Hardy-2022-03-19T15:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Essay?-2022-03-19T15:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Michael_Hardy-2022-03-19T15:52:00.000Z-Essay?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Michael_Hardy-2022-03-19T15:52:00.000Z-Essay?","timestamp":"2022-03-19T15:52:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Michael_Hardy-2022-03-19T15:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Essay?-2022-03-19T15:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Michael_Hardy-2022-03-19T15:52:00.000Z-Essay?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Essay?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Essay?&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Hardy-2022-03-19T15:52:00.000Z-Essay?"></span>Can you explain <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Proof_that_%CF%80_is_irrational&amp;diff=1062737757&amp;oldid=1059610426">this edit</a>? You wrote "It needs to lose the sassy conversation with the reader, and the arbitrary magazine style formatting such as holding" </p> <dl><dd></dd></dl> <p>I have no idea what "such as holding" means. What do you mean by "holding"? </p> <dl><dd></dd></dl> <p>Your changing "that is" to "thus" made the article less clear. It should say, <b>not</b> that a logical consequence of the irrationality of <span class="texhtml mvar" style="font-style:italic;">π</span> is that <span class="texhtml mvar" style="font-style:italic;">π</span> is not a quotient of integers, but rather that its inexpressibility as a ratio of integers is precisely, by the very definition of "irrational number", what it means to say that <span class="texhtml mvar" style="font-style:italic;">π</span> is irrational. </p> <dl><dd></dd></dl> <p>And now the big issue: What is the least bit essay-like or sassy about this article? Is this just a resurgence of that old Wikipedia affliction of some users going around indiscriminately labeling as "essays" every article in which a standard figure of speech using the pronoun "we" in a non-literal sense? <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Hardy" title="User:Michael Hardy">Michael Hardy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Hardy" title="User talk:Michael Hardy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Michael_Hardy-2022-03-19T15:52:00.000Z-Essay?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:52, 19 March 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Hardy-2022-03-19T15:52:00.000Z-Essay?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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id="h-Salina_Stockade-2022-04-13T12:04:00.000Z"></span>Salina Stockade<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Salina_Stockade-2022-04-13T12:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-IveGoneAway-2022-04-13T12:04:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Salina_Stockade-2022-04-13T12:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-IveGoneAway-2022-04-13T12:04:00.000Z-Salina_Stockade"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-IveGoneAway-2022-04-13T12:04:00.000Z-Salina_Stockade","timestamp":"2022-04-13T12:04:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-IveGoneAway-2022-04-13T12:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Salina_Stockade-2022-04-13T12:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-IveGoneAway-2022-04-13T12:04:00.000Z-Salina_Stockade&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Salina Stockade&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Salina Stockade&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IveGoneAway-2022-04-13T12:04:00.000Z-Salina_Stockade"></span>The <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.salinastockade.com/">baseball team</a> could be added to Salina page. <a href="/wiki/User:IveGoneAway" title="User:IveGoneAway">IveGoneAway</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IveGoneAway" title="User talk:IveGoneAway">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-IveGoneAway-2022-04-13T12:04:00.000Z-Salina_Stockade" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:04, 13 April 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IveGoneAway-2022-04-13T12:04:00.000Z-Salina_Stockade"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-04-13T12:04:00.000Z","author":"IveGoneAway","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-IveGoneAway-2022-04-13T12:04:00.000Z-Salina_Stockade","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IveGoneAway-2022-04-13T12:04:00.000Z-Salina_Stockade"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Magnolia677-2022-05-03T08:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Highway_graphics-2022-05-03T08:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Magnolia677-2022-05-03T08:22:00.000Z-Highway_graphics&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Highway graphics&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Highway graphics&quot;}--><h2 id="Highway_graphics" data-mw-thread-id="h-Highway_graphics-2022-05-03T08:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Highway_graphics-2022-05-03T08:22:00.000Z"></span>Highway graphics<span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Magnolia677-2022-05-03T08:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Highway_graphics-2022-05-03T08:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Magnolia677-2022-05-03T08:22:00.000Z-Highway_graphics&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Highway graphics&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Highway graphics&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Magnolia677-2022-05-03T08:22:00.000Z-Highway_graphics"></span>Regarding <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jackson_County,_Missouri&amp;diff=1085939262&amp;oldid=1083427572">this edit</a>, I agree this stuff is cruft, but I've never deleted it. Great idea. Do you ever get pushback? Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Magnolia677" title="User:Magnolia677">Magnolia677</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Magnolia677" title="User talk:Magnolia677">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Magnolia677-2022-05-03T08:22:00.000Z-Highway_graphics" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:22, 3 May 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Magnolia677-2022-05-03T08:22:00.000Z-Highway_graphics"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-05-03T08:22:00.000Z","author":"Magnolia677","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Magnolia677-2022-05-03T08:22:00.000Z-Highway_graphics","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Magnolia677-2022-05-03T08:22:00.000Z-Highway_graphics"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-100000tro-2022-06-28T02:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_barnstar_for_you!_10-2022-06-28T02:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-100000tro-2022-06-28T02:09:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_10&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you! 10&quot;}--><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!_10" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_10-2022-06-28T02:09:00.000Z"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21_10"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_10-2022-06-28T02:09:00.000Z"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_10-2022-06-28T02:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-100000tro-2022-06-28T02:09:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_barnstar_for_you!_10-2022-06-28T02:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-100000tro-2022-06-28T02:09:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_10"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-100000tro-2022-06-28T02:09:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_10","timestamp":"2022-06-28T02:09:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-100000tro-2022-06-28T02:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_barnstar_for_you!_10-2022-06-28T02:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-100000tro-2022-06-28T02:09:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_10&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you! 10&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-100000tro-2022-06-28T02:09:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_10"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Civility_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Civility_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Civility_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Civility_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Civility_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Civility_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Civility_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Civility Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Smuckola is a good Wikipedian who tries to improve the environment of Wikipedia <a href="/wiki/User:100000tro" title="User:100000tro">100000tro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:100000tro" title="User talk:100000tro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-100000tro-2022-06-28T02:09:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:09, 28 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-100000tro-2022-06-28T02:09:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_10"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-06-28T02:09:00.000Z","author":"100000tro","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-100000tro-2022-06-28T02:09:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_10","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-100000tro-2022-06-28T02:09:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_10"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-DaveTheBrave-2022-06-30T20:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Hello-2022-06-30T20:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-DaveTheBrave-2022-06-30T20:13:00.000Z-Hello&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Hello&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Hello&quot;}--><h2 id="Hello" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hello-2022-06-30T20:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hello-2022-06-30T20:13:00.000Z"></span>Hello<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hello-2022-06-30T20:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-DaveTheBrave-2022-06-30T20:13:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Hello-2022-06-30T20:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-DaveTheBrave-2022-06-30T20:13:00.000Z-Hello"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-DaveTheBrave-2022-06-30T20:13:00.000Z-Hello","timestamp":"2022-06-30T20:13:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-DaveTheBrave-2022-06-30T20:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Hello-2022-06-30T20:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-DaveTheBrave-2022-06-30T20:13:00.000Z-Hello&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Hello&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Hello&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DaveTheBrave-2022-06-30T20:13:00.000Z-Hello"></span>Smuckola</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Smuckola" title="Special:Contributions/Smuckola">contribs</a>) Look, I'm honestly not trying to bother anybody, but can you explain to me what it is I'm doing wrong? None of my recent edits were in bad faith and the vast majority were already sourced within the articles; I don't see why I have to be blocked over something so minor? Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:DaveTheBrave" title="User:DaveTheBrave">DaveTheBrave</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DaveTheBrave" title="User talk:DaveTheBrave">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-DaveTheBrave-2022-06-30T20:13:00.000Z-Hello" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:13, 30 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DaveTheBrave-2022-06-30T20:13:00.000Z-Hello"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-06-30T20:13:00.000Z","author":"DaveTheBrave","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DaveTheBrave-2022-06-30T20:13:00.000Z-Hello","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DaveTheBrave-2022-06-30T20:13:00.000Z-Hello"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MB-20220806214300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-New_Page_Reviewing-20220806214300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MB-20220806214300-New_Page_Reviewing&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;New Page Reviewing&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;New Page Reviewing&quot;}--><h2 id="New_Page_Reviewing" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_Page_Reviewing-20220806214300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_Page_Reviewing-20220806214300"></span>New Page Reviewing<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_Page_Reviewing-20220806214300"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MB-20220806214300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-New_Page_Reviewing-20220806214300","replies":["c-MB-20220806214300-New_Page_Reviewing"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-MB-20220806214300-New_Page_Reviewing","timestamp":"20220806214300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MB-20220806214300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-New_Page_Reviewing-20220806214300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MB-20220806214300-New_Page_Reviewing&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;New Page Reviewing&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;New Page Reviewing&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="background:#E2E7FF; border:1px solid #000080; padding: 10px; width: auto"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="position:relative; right:6px"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MB-20220806214300-New_Page_Reviewing"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg/110px-Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg.png" decoding="async" width="110" height="110" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg/165px-Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg/220px-Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="font-size:120%">Hello, Smuckola.</span> <p>I've seen you editing recently and you seem like an experienced Wikipedia editor. <br/> Would you please consider <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PERM/NPR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PERM/NPR">applying</a> to become a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Reviewers" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Reviewers">New Page Reviewer</a>? Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but <u>it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines</u>; currently Wikipedia needs experienced users at this task. But kindly read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol">the tutorial</a> before making your decision. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:MB" title="User:MB"><b style="color:#034503">MB</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-MB-20220806214300-New_Page_Reviewing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:43, 6 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MB-20220806214300-New_Page_Reviewing"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20220806214300","author":"MB","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MB-20220806214300-New_Page_Reviewing","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MB-20220806214300-New_Page_Reviewing"></span> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Romaine-20220809012400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2022-20220809012400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Romaine-20220809012400-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2022&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;This Month in GLAM: July 2022&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;This Month in GLAM: July 2022&quot;}--><h2 id="This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2022" data-mw-thread-id="h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2022-20220809012400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2022-20220809012400"></span><i>This Month in GLAM</i>: July 2022<span data-mw-comment-end="h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2022-20220809012400"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Romaine-20220809012400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2022-20220809012400","replies":["c-Romaine-20220809012400-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2022"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Romaine-20220809012400-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2022","timestamp":"20220809012400"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Romaine-20220809012400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2022-20220809012400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Romaine-20220809012400-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2022&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;This Month in GLAM: July 2022&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;This Month in GLAM: July 2022&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="width:100%;"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" align="center" style="border:1px gray solid; 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font-family:Times New Roman;"> <b><u>Headlines</u></b></span> </td></tr> <tr style="font-size:10pt; font-family:Times New Roman; text-align:center;"> <td><div style="text-align:left; column-count:2; column-width:28em; -moz-column-count:2; -moz-column-width:28em; -webkit-column-count:2; -webkit-column-width:28em; vertical-align:top;"> <ul><li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/July_2022/Contents/Argentina_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/July 2022/Contents/Argentina report">Argentina report</a>: Provinces: our main characters</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/July_2022/Contents/Brazil_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/July 2022/Contents/Brazil report">Brazil report</a>: Brazil holds its National Wiki Conference, and many GLAM partners join</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/July_2022/Contents/Colombia_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/July 2022/Contents/Colombia report">Colombia report</a>: A very busy July for Colombian libraries / Un Julio bastante movido para las bibliotecas colombianas</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/July_2022/Contents/France_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/July 2022/Contents/France report">France report</a>: Wikimedian in residence in Clermont-Ferrand</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/July_2022/Contents/New_Zealand_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/July 2022/Contents/New Zealand report">New Zealand report</a>: News from Auckland Museum, the West Coast, and New Zealand's thesis repositories</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/July_2022/Contents/Poland_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/July 2022/Contents/Poland report">Poland report</a>: Edit-a-thon in the National Museum in Cracow, GLAM editing contest on the collection of artworks</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/July_2022/Contents/Portugal_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/July 2022/Contents/Portugal report">Portugal report</a>: Portugal’s first GLAM-Wiki open access museum project is launched!!</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/July_2022/Contents/Serbia_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/July 2022/Contents/Serbia report">Serbia report</a>: Presentation of GLAM activities at Edu Wiki Camp</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/July_2022/Contents/UK_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/July 2022/Contents/UK report">UK report</a>: Khalili Collections</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/July_2022/Contents/USA_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/July 2022/Contents/USA report">USA report</a>: GLAM for the Masses</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/July_2022/Contents/AvoinGLAM_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/July 2022/Contents/AvoinGLAM report">AvoinGLAM report</a>: Wikimania</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/July_2022/Contents/Content_Partnerships_Hub_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/July 2022/Contents/Content Partnerships Hub report">Content Partnerships Hub report</a>: Wikimania activities</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/July_2022/Contents/WMF_GLAM_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/July 2022/Contents/WMF GLAM report">WMF GLAM report</a>: What next for 1Lib1Ref?</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/July_2022/Contents/Events" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/July 2022/Contents/Events">Calendar</a>: August's GLAM events</li></ul> </div> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="font-family:Times New Roman; text-align:center; font-size:85%;"><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter">Read this edition in full</a> • <a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/July_2022/Single" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/July 2022/Single">Single-page</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td valign="top" colspan="2" style="padding:0.5em; font-family:Times New Roman;text-align:center; font-size:85%;"> <p>To assist with preparing the newsletter, please visit the <a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/Newsroom" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/Newsroom">newsroom</a>. Past editions may be viewed <a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/Archives" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/Archives">here</a>. </p> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/About" class="extiw" title="m:GLAM/Newsletter/About">About <i>This Month in GLAM</i></a> · <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/GLAM" class="extiw" title="m:Global message delivery/Targets/GLAM">Subscribe/Unsubscribe</a> · <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MassMessage" class="extiw" title="m:MassMessage">Global message delivery</a> · <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Romaine" class="extiw" title="m:User:Romaine">Romaine</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Romaine-20220809012400-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2022" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:24, 9 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Romaine-20220809012400-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2022"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20220809012400","author":"Romaine","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Romaine-20220809012400-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2022","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Romaine-20220809012400-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2022"></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-ToBeFree-20220823195700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Blocking_requests_on_my_talk_page-20220823195700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-ToBeFree-20220823195700-Blocking_requests_on_my_talk_page&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Blocking requests on my talk page&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Blocking requests on my talk page&quot;}--><h2 id="Blocking_requests_on_my_talk_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Blocking_requests_on_my_talk_page-20220823195700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Blocking_requests_on_my_talk_page-20220823195700"></span>Blocking requests on my talk page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Blocking_requests_on_my_talk_page-20220823195700"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ToBeFree-20220823195700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Blocking_requests_on_my_talk_page-20220823195700","replies":["c-ToBeFree-20220823195700-Blocking_requests_on_my_talk_page"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ToBeFree-20220823195700-Blocking_requests_on_my_talk_page","timestamp":"20220823195700"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-ToBeFree-20220823195700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Blocking_requests_on_my_talk_page-20220823195700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-ToBeFree-20220823195700-Blocking_requests_on_my_talk_page&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Blocking requests on my talk page&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Blocking requests on my talk page&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ToBeFree-20220823195700-Blocking_requests_on_my_talk_page"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a>, I'm archiving the two blocking requests and have spent about 2-3 hours to analyze the concerns in the third complaint. I'm afraid that I'm not a suitable recipient for this type of messages, as they mainly lead to time investment for justifying to decline taking action, which I could instead invest in actually taking action where it's needed. If there are further concerns about conflicts I have no involvement in and no relation to, please voice them at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI">WP:ANI</a> instead of my talk page. Thanks and all the best, <a href="/wiki/User:ToBeFree" title="User:ToBeFree">~ ToBeFree</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ToBeFree" title="User talk:ToBeFree">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-ToBeFree-20220823195700-Blocking_requests_on_my_talk_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:57, 23 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ToBeFree-20220823195700-Blocking_requests_on_my_talk_page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20220823195700","author":"ToBeFree","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ToBeFree-20220823195700-Blocking_requests_on_my_talk_page","replies":[],"displayName":"~ ToBeFree"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ToBeFree-20220823195700-Blocking_requests_on_my_talk_page"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-ButterCashier-20220911104800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Venaco_Edit-20220911104800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-ButterCashier-20220911104800-Venaco_Edit&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Venaco Edit&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Venaco Edit&quot;}--><h2 id="Venaco_Edit" data-mw-thread-id="h-Venaco_Edit-20220911104800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Venaco_Edit-20220911104800"></span>Venaco Edit<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Venaco_Edit-20220911104800"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-ButterCashier-20220911104800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Venaco_Edit-20220911104800","replies":["c-ButterCashier-20220911104800-Venaco_Edit"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ButterCashier-20220911104800-Venaco_Edit","timestamp":"20220911104800"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-ButterCashier-20220911104800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Venaco_Edit-20220911104800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-ButterCashier-20220911104800-Venaco_Edit&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Venaco Edit&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Venaco Edit&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ButterCashier-20220911104800-Venaco_Edit"></span>Hello Smuckola. I got the paragraphs of text for the Venaco page from the French version: <a class="external free" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venaco">https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venaco</a>, as the article suggested one could use that version. I was going to add in the notes and citations as well, re-format the text so it was proper but had not yet. Perhaps unless one can write aspects of the French version down completely in one go, including the pictures, citations and notes, rather than trying part after part, correcting as one goes, it is not worth the effort. <a href="/wiki/User:ButterCashier" title="User:ButterCashier">ButterCashier</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ButterCashier" title="User talk:ButterCashier">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-ButterCashier-20220911104800-Venaco_Edit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:48, 11 September 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ButterCashier-20220911104800-Venaco_Edit"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20220911104800","author":"ButterCashier","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ButterCashier-20220911104800-Venaco_Edit","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ButterCashier-20220911104800-Venaco_Edit"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Romaine-20220912155500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_August_2022-20220912155500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Romaine-20220912155500-This_Month_in_GLAM:_August_2022&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;This Month in GLAM: August 2022&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;This Month in GLAM: August 2022&quot;}--><h2 id="This_Month_in_GLAM:_August_2022" data-mw-thread-id="h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_August_2022-20220912155500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_August_2022-20220912155500"></span><i>This Month in GLAM</i>: August 2022<span data-mw-comment-end="h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_August_2022-20220912155500"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Romaine-20220912155500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_August_2022-20220912155500","replies":["c-Romaine-20220912155500-This_Month_in_GLAM:_August_2022"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Romaine-20220912155500-This_Month_in_GLAM:_August_2022","timestamp":"20220912155500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Romaine-20220912155500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_August_2022-20220912155500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Romaine-20220912155500-This_Month_in_GLAM:_August_2022&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;This Month in GLAM: August 2022&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;This Month in GLAM: August 2022&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="width:100%;"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" align="center" style="border:1px gray solid; padding:1em;"> <table align="center"> <tbody><tr> <td style="text-align: center;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Romaine-20220912155500-This_Month_in_GLAM:_August_2022"></span><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/This_Month_in_GLAM_logo_2018.png/350px-This_Month_in_GLAM_logo_2018.png" decoding="async" width="350" height="70" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/This_Month_in_GLAM_logo_2018.png/525px-This_Month_in_GLAM_logo_2018.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/This_Month_in_GLAM_logo_2018.png/700px-This_Month_in_GLAM_logo_2018.png 2x" data-file-width="2430" data-file-height="485"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><br/> <hr/> <div style="font-size:12pt; font-family:Times New Roman; text-align:center;"><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022"><span style="color:darkslategray;">This Month in GLAM – Volume XII, Issue VIII, August 2022</span></a></div> <hr/><br/> </td></tr> <tr style="text-align: center;"> <td><span style="font-size:12pt; font-family:Times New Roman;"> <b><u>Headlines</u></b></span> </td></tr> <tr style="font-size:10pt; font-family:Times New Roman; text-align:center;"> <td><div style="text-align:left; column-count:2; column-width:28em; -moz-column-count:2; -moz-column-width:28em; -webkit-column-count:2; -webkit-column-width:28em; vertical-align:top;"> <ul><li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022/Contents/Albania_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022/Contents/Albania report">Albania report</a>: Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos Campaign in Albania and Kosovo in 2022</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022/Contents/Australia_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022/Contents/Australia report">Australia report</a>: Introducing Wikidata to the City of Sydney</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022/Contents/Brazil_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022/Contents/Brazil report">Brazil report</a>: In-person and online activities hosted by Brazil during Wikimania 2022</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022/Contents/Estonia_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022/Contents/Estonia report">Estonia report</a>: Summer in WMEE - from collecting professors´ portraits to new potential co-operations</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022/Contents/Germany_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022/Contents/Germany report">Germany report</a>: Coins and paintings by the Prussian Cultural Heritage Foundation</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022/Contents/Indonesia_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022/Contents/Indonesia report">Indonesia report</a>: 4 Islands Outreach; Digital Clippings; Balinese Wikisource Competition</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022/Contents/Italy_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022/Contents/Italy report">Italy report</a>: Italian institutions ever closer to Wiki Loves Monuments</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022/Contents/Kosovo_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022/Contents/Kosovo report">Kosovo report</a>: Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos Campaign and Wikivoyage</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022/Contents/Netherlands_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022/Contents/Netherlands report">Netherlands report</a>: West Africa in the Van der Kraaij Photo Collection 1972-1987</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022/Contents/New_Zealand_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022/Contents/New Zealand report">New Zealand report</a>: A Wikipedian at Large</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022/Contents/Poland_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022/Contents/Poland report">Poland report</a>: The summary of GLAM editing contest and the end of residency at the National Museum in Cracow; Cooperation with Wawel Royal Castle; Hack(art)hon for Zachęta</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022/Contents/Portugal_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022/Contents/Portugal report">Portugal report</a>: Linking Portuguese culture to Wikidata</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022/Contents/Serbia_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022/Contents/Serbia report">Serbia report</a>: Contemporary Art Edit-a-thon and Wikipedian in residence at the Historical Archive of Negotin</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022/Contents/Sweden_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022/Contents/Sweden report">Sweden report</a>: 100 000 Bildminnen; Uniforms, images from New Sweden, colonial officers, the map book of Fryderyk Getkant, and more!; Swedish general election 2022</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022/Contents/UK_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022/Contents/UK report">UK report</a>: Culturally diversifying Wikipedia</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022/Contents/Uruguay_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022/Contents/Uruguay report">Uruguay report</a>: Wikimuseos &amp; editing clubs in Uruguay</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022/Contents/USA_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022/Contents/USA report">USA report</a>: Wikimania, Meetups and More</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022/Contents/AvoinGLAM_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022/Contents/AvoinGLAM report">AvoinGLAM report</a>: Crisis &amp; GLAM</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022/Contents/Content_Partnerships_Hub_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022/Contents/Content Partnerships Hub report">Content Partnerships Hub report</a>: Tools; Helpdesk; IGO/INGO</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022/Contents/Structured_Data_on_Wikimedia_Commons_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022/Contents/Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons report">Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons report</a>: New tool in development utilizing Structured Data</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022/Contents/WMF_GLAM_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022/Contents/WMF GLAM report">WMF GLAM report</a>: Capacity building for Bophana Center</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2022/Contents/Events" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2022/Contents/Events">Calendar</a>: September's GLAM events</li></ul> </div> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="font-family:Times New Roman; 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If so, don't worry, I haven't forgotten, so you don't need to worry about it (if you do at all). I've just been too busy recently to sit down and work on Wikipedia recently. <a href="/wiki/User:Panini!" title="User:Panini!"><span style="color:#F40">Panini!</span></a> <span style="color:#F40">•</span> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Panini!" title="User talk:Panini!">🥪</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Panini!-20221003172200-Heads_up" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:22, 3 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Panini!-20221003172200-Heads_up"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221003172200","author":"Panini!","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Panini!-20221003172200-Heads_up","replies":["c-Smuckola-20221004051400-Panini!-20221003172200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Panini!-20221003172200-Heads_up"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-20221004051400-Panini!-20221003172200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Panini!" title="User:Panini!">Panini!</a>:</span> No, I'm just so thorough with some articles that I review a lot of the history, to see what it has been, and to see what people have done and undone with it. And hey why not click 'thank'? It's right there! It's positive. It's easy. But it's not quite for everyone. You've done a lot of the best stuff out there. So thanks. Be well in what you're out there doing. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-20221004051400-Panini!-20221003172200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:14, 4 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-20221004051400-Panini!-20221003172200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221004051400","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-20221004051400-Panini!-20221003172200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-20221004051400-Panini!-20221003172200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sleeps-Darkly-20221017023700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thank_you!-20221017023700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sleeps-Darkly-20221017023700-Thank_you!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thank you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thank you!&quot;}--><h2 id="Thank_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thank_you!-20221017023700"><span id="Thank_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thank_you!-20221017023700"></span>Thank you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thank_you!-20221017023700"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sleeps-Darkly-20221017023700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Thank_you!-20221017023700","replies":["c-Sleeps-Darkly-20221017023700-Thank_you!"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-20230109055700-Sleeps-Darkly-20221017023700","timestamp":"20230109055700"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sleeps-Darkly-20221017023700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thank_you!-20221017023700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sleeps-Darkly-20221017023700-Thank_you!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thank you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thank you!&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sleeps-Darkly-20221017023700-Thank_you!"></span>Thank you for copyediting <a href="/wiki/Dendy_(console)" class="mw-redirect" title="Dendy (console)">Dendy (console)</a>! It was a big deal for me to write the original Russian article, and Betakiller helped me to translate it. What do you think, is it possible for the current article to pass the Good Article nomination? <a href="/wiki/User:Sleeps-Darkly" title="User:Sleeps-Darkly">Sleeps-Darkly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sleeps-Darkly" title="User talk:Sleeps-Darkly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Sleeps-Darkly-20221017023700-Thank_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:37, 17 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sleeps-Darkly-20221017023700-Thank_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221017023700","author":"Sleeps-Darkly","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sleeps-Darkly-20221017023700-Thank_you!","replies":["c-Smuckola-20230109055700-Sleeps-Darkly-20221017023700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sleeps-Darkly-20221017023700-Thank_you!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-20230109055700-Sleeps-Darkly-20221017023700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sleeps-Darkly" title="User:Sleeps-Darkly">Sleeps-Darkly</a>:</span> Hey there! Sorry for the delay. You're doing great, because you know this thing isn't really covered in English media, but it is of some significance to English Wikipedia due to spill-over from the NES, and as a mass phenomenon in the distinctly Russian cultural subset of global culture. And it seems to me that the sources are overall <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a>. So you're the inside expert as a Russian speaker. A lot of other such foreign topics are not relevant to the English Wikipedia, such as Indian movies and foreign schools, but people are obsessed with dumping it here. I know I've seen lots and lots of very small and less detailed articles reach Good, in the last couple of years. I have seen a shocking number of articles promoted to Good, which are legitimate but they are filled with typos and weird junk. So my point is you could do much worse! And I say yes it is worth submitting. It's not something to be thrown out on sight. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-20230109055700-Sleeps-Darkly-20221017023700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:57, 9 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-20230109055700-Sleeps-Darkly-20221017023700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230109055700","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-20230109055700-Sleeps-Darkly-20221017023700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-20230109055700-Sleeps-Darkly-20221017023700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-B-bot-20221212182200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Taligent_company_logo.svg-20221212182200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-B-bot-20221212182200-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Taligent_company_logo.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Orphaned non-free image File:Taligent company logo.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Orphaned non-free image File:Taligent company logo.svg&quot;}--><h2 id="Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Taligent_company_logo.svg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Taligent_company_logo.svg-20221212182200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Taligent_company_logo.svg-20221212182200"></span>Orphaned non-free image File:Taligent company logo.svg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Taligent_company_logo.svg-20221212182200"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-B-bot-20221212182200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Taligent_company_logo.svg-20221212182200","replies":["c-B-bot-20221212182200-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Taligent_company_logo.svg"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-B-bot-20221212182200-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Taligent_company_logo.svg","timestamp":"20221212182200"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-B-bot-20221212182200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Taligent_company_logo.svg-20221212182200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-B-bot-20221212182200-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Taligent_company_logo.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Orphaned non-free image File:Taligent company logo.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Orphaned non-free image File:Taligent company logo.svg&quot;}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-B-bot-20221212182200-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Taligent_company_logo.svg"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span title="⚠"><img alt="⚠" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/35px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/53px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/70px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span><figcaption>⚠</figcaption></figure><p> Thanks for uploading <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Taligent_company_logo.svg&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Taligent company logo.svg (page does not exist)">File:Taligent company logo.svg</a></b>. 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style="width:100%; text-align: left;"> <div style="background-color: #eeeeee; border-top: 4px #eeeeee solid; border-left: 2px #eeeeee solid; border-right: 2px #eeeeee solid; text-align: center; padding: 0.5em; margin:0em;"><div style="float:left;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20230308193800-Latest_(and_most_likely_final)_issue_of_the_WP:VG_newsletter"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gamepad.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/be/Gamepad.svg/75px-Gamepad.svg.png" decoding="async" width="75" height="75" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/be/Gamepad.svg/113px-Gamepad.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/be/Gamepad.svg/150px-Gamepad.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span></div> <div style="float: center;"> <p><span style="font-size:150%;">The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter</span><br/> <span 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ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Kku-20230325093400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-\&quot;why_would_you_add_this_totally_irrelevant_link\&quot;?-20230325093400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Kku-20230325093400-\&quot;why_would_you_add_this_totally_irrelevant_link\&quot;?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;\&quot;why would you add this totally irrelevant link\&quot;?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;\&quot;why would you add this totally irrelevant link\&quot;?&quot;}--><h2 id="&quot;why_would_you_add_this_totally_irrelevant_link&quot;?" data-mw-thread-id="h-&quot;why_would_you_add_this_totally_irrelevant_link&quot;?-20230325093400"><span id=".22why_would_you_add_this_totally_irrelevant_link.22.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-&quot;why_would_you_add_this_totally_irrelevant_link&quot;?-20230325093400"></span>"why would you add this totally irrelevant link"?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-&quot;why_would_you_add_this_totally_irrelevant_link&quot;?-20230325093400"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Kku-20230325093400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"why_would_you_add_this_totally_irrelevant_link\"?-20230325093400","replies":["c-Kku-20230325093400-\"why_would_you_add_this_totally_irrelevant_link\"?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Kku-20230325093400-\"why_would_you_add_this_totally_irrelevant_link\"?","timestamp":"20230325093400"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Kku-20230325093400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-\&quot;why_would_you_add_this_totally_irrelevant_link\&quot;?-20230325093400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Kku-20230325093400-\&quot;why_would_you_add_this_totally_irrelevant_link\&quot;?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;\&quot;why would you add this totally irrelevant link\&quot;?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;\&quot;why would you add this totally irrelevant link\&quot;?&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cameo_(website)&amp;oldid=prev&amp;diff=1146413735&amp;diffmode=source"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kku-20230325093400-&quot;why_would_you_add_this_totally_irrelevant_link&quot;?"></span>https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cameo_(website)&amp;oldid=prev&amp;diff=1146413735&amp;diffmode=source</a> because of this (now dead) reference: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://thisweekinstartups.com/e963-cameo-ceo-co-founder-steven-galanis-allows-celebrities-to-monetize-their-fame-by-delivering-personal-messages-to-fans-shares-his-unique-founding-story-new-50m-raise-by-kleiner-perkins-insi/">https://thisweekinstartups.com/e963-cameo-ceo-co-founder-steven-galanis-allows-celebrities-to-monetize-their-fame-by-delivering-personal-messages-to-fans-shares-his-unique-founding-story-new-50m-raise-by-kleiner-perkins-insi/</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Kku" title="User:Kku">Kku</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kku" title="User talk:Kku">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Kku-20230325093400-&quot;why_would_you_add_this_totally_irrelevant_link&quot;?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:34, 25 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kku-20230325093400-&quot;why_would_you_add_this_totally_irrelevant_link&quot;?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230325093400","author":"Kku","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kku-20230325093400-\"why_would_you_add_this_totally_irrelevant_link\"?","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kku-20230325093400-&quot;why_would_you_add_this_totally_irrelevant_link&quot;?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-IveGoneAway-20230408130000&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-I_appreciate_the_appreciation-20230408130000&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-IveGoneAway-20230408130000-I_appreciate_the_appreciation&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;I appreciate the appreciation&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;I appreciate the appreciation&quot;}--><h2 id="I_appreciate_the_appreciation" data-mw-thread-id="h-I_appreciate_the_appreciation-20230408130000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I_appreciate_the_appreciation-20230408130000"></span>I appreciate the appreciation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I_appreciate_the_appreciation-20230408130000"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-IveGoneAway-20230408130000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-I_appreciate_the_appreciation-20230408130000","replies":["c-IveGoneAway-20230408130000-I_appreciate_the_appreciation"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-IveGoneAway-20231015182000-Smuckola-20231014074000","timestamp":"20231015182000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-IveGoneAway-20230408130000&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-I_appreciate_the_appreciation-20230408130000&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-IveGoneAway-20230408130000-I_appreciate_the_appreciation&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;I appreciate the appreciation&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;I appreciate the appreciation&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:IveGoneAway/sandbox/Abilene_conglomerate" title="User:IveGoneAway/sandbox/Abilene conglomerate"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IveGoneAway-20230408130000-I_appreciate_the_appreciation"></span>If you want to watch the sausage being made ...</a> and get the first taste. </p><p>OT: Have you ever been inside either the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://abilenekansas.org/plan-your-visit/explore-president-eisenhowers-legacy/historic-sunflower-hotel">Sunflower Hotel</a> or the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.kshs.org/km/items/view/314314">Interstate Insurance Building</a>? Both were build by <a href="/wiki/C._L._Brown" title="C. L. Brown">C. L. Brown</a>. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:IveGoneAway" title="User:IveGoneAway">IveGoneAway</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IveGoneAway" title="User talk:IveGoneAway">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-IveGoneAway-20230408130000-I_appreciate_the_appreciation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:00, 8 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IveGoneAway-20230408130000-I_appreciate_the_appreciation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230408130000","author":"IveGoneAway","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-IveGoneAway-20230408130000-I_appreciate_the_appreciation","replies":["c-Smuckola-20231014074000-IveGoneAway-20230408130000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IveGoneAway-20230408130000-I_appreciate_the_appreciation"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-20231014074000-IveGoneAway-20230408130000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:IveGoneAway" title="User:IveGoneAway">IveGoneAway</a>:</span>Holy cow I forgot about your comment, sorry. No I haven't been to much in Abilene. I went to Old Abilene Town as a kid, with the shootouts and sarsaparilla and the rock candy gift shops. Possibly a dance hall, not sure. I wasn't into history AT ALL until recent years! — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-20231014074000-IveGoneAway-20230408130000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:40, 14 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-20231014074000-IveGoneAway-20230408130000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231014074000","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-20231014074000-IveGoneAway-20230408130000","replies":["c-IveGoneAway-20231015182000-Smuckola-20231014074000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-20231014074000-IveGoneAway-20230408130000"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IveGoneAway-20231015182000-Smuckola-20231014074000"></span>Well, nice day trip. Easy enough just to walk into those two buildings and take in the art deco. Dad said he took me to the Eisenhour Library when it opened.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:IveGoneAway" title="User:IveGoneAway">IveGoneAway</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IveGoneAway" title="User talk:IveGoneAway">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-IveGoneAway-20231015182000-Smuckola-20231014074000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:20, 15 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IveGoneAway-20231015182000-Smuckola-20231014074000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231015182000","author":"IveGoneAway","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-IveGoneAway-20231015182000-Smuckola-20231014074000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IveGoneAway-20231015182000-Smuckola-20231014074000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Martin_IIIa-20230426215800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Nintendo_64-20230426215800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-20230426215800-Nintendo_64&quot;,&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-20230430135700-Nintendo_64&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Nintendo 64&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Nintendo 64&quot;}--><h2 id="Nintendo_64" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nintendo_64-20230426215800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nintendo_64-20230426215800"></span>Nintendo 64<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nintendo_64-20230426215800"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Martin_IIIa-20230426215800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Nintendo_64-20230426215800","replies":["c-Martin_IIIa-20230426215800-Nintendo_64","c-Martin_IIIa-20230430135700-Nintendo_64"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Martin_IIIa-20231027011300-Smuckola-20231014074000","timestamp":"20231027011300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Martin_IIIa-20230426215800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Nintendo_64-20230426215800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-20230426215800-Nintendo_64&quot;,&quot;c-Martin_IIIa-20230430135700-Nintendo_64&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Nintendo 64&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Nintendo 64&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martin_IIIa-20230426215800-Nintendo_64"></span>Hey, how are you doing? I haven't run across much good Nintendo 64 info lately, although I did have some interesting fun researching reception for Quake 64. After the critics rightfully slammed the Saturn version of Quake (the Saturn is one of my three all-time favorite consoles, but ultimately all that port proved is that the Saturn was not designed to run a game like Quake), I was expecting them to give Quake 64 credit for at least having a multiplayer mode. Instead, apart from IGN saying they wished Quake 64 had the Saturn version's real-time light sourcing, they didn't make any comparison to the Saturn version at all, though they were noticeably more positive about Quake 64 than Saturn Quake. </p><p>I was wondering if you could tell me how the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Nintendo_64" title="Talk:Nintendo 64">Talk:Nintendo 64</a> about the Nintendo 64's main competitors turned out. I basically did a WikiProject Video Games summon to that discussion and then silently checked out of it because I suddenly realized I didn't have the patience for it. I felt bad for doing that, but I just can't run the risk of a vein in my forehead bursting. :( <a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_IIIa" title="User talk:Martin IIIa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Martin_IIIa-20230426215800-Nintendo_64" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:58, 26 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martin_IIIa-20230426215800-Nintendo_64"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230426215800","author":"Martin IIIa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martin_IIIa-20230426215800-Nintendo_64","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martin_IIIa-20230426215800-Nintendo_64"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martin_IIIa-20230430135700-Nintendo_64"></span>Anything on how that discussion turned out? It's okay if you don't want to tell me; I'm just hoping for some sort of reply to confirm that my question was heard, so to speak.--<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_IIIa" title="User talk:Martin IIIa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Martin_IIIa-20230430135700-Nintendo_64" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:57, 30 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martin_IIIa-20230430135700-Nintendo_64"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230430135700","author":"Martin IIIa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martin_IIIa-20230430135700-Nintendo_64","replies":["c-Smuckola-20231014074000-Martin_IIIa-20230430135700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martin_IIIa-20230430135700-Nintendo_64"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-20231014074000-Martin_IIIa-20230430135700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a>:</span> Hey there bro. I'm really sorry I didn't get back to ya. It's only because I started reading the long thread you mentioned, which I didn't know anything about, and yeah it just went on and on. I didn't finish reading it but I sure mean to! lol sorry you're annoyed ;) Yeah we do have to save ourselves sometimes. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-20231014074000-Martin_IIIa-20230430135700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:40, 14 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-20231014074000-Martin_IIIa-20230430135700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231014074000","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-20231014074000-Martin_IIIa-20230430135700","replies":["c-Martin_IIIa-20231027011300-Smuckola-20231014074000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-20231014074000-Martin_IIIa-20230430135700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martin_IIIa-20231027011300-Smuckola-20231014074000"></span>Oh wow, I had really assumed that you would have become involved in that discussion, since it concerned the lead of the Nintendo 64 article. My bad. But I guess at any rate there wasn't a consensus to change it, since the article still says the N64's two main competitors were the PlayStation and Saturn (that still sounds incredibly silly to me). And naturally we've both since moved on to other stuff. :) <a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_IIIa" title="User talk:Martin IIIa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Martin_IIIa-20231027011300-Smuckola-20231014074000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:13, 27 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martin_IIIa-20231027011300-Smuckola-20231014074000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231027011300","author":"Martin IIIa","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martin_IIIa-20231027011300-Smuckola-20231014074000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martin_IIIa-20231027011300-Smuckola-20231014074000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Timtrent-20231003162900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-SPI_to_do_with_Connexe_One-20231003162900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Timtrent-20231003162900-SPI_to_do_with_Connexe_One&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;SPI to do with Connexe One&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;SPI to do with Connexe One&quot;}--><h2 id="SPI_to_do_with_Connexe_One" data-mw-thread-id="h-SPI_to_do_with_Connexe_One-20231003162900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-SPI_to_do_with_Connexe_One-20231003162900"></span>SPI to do with Connexe One<span data-mw-comment-end="h-SPI_to_do_with_Connexe_One-20231003162900"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Timtrent-20231003162900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-SPI_to_do_with_Connexe_One-20231003162900","replies":["c-Timtrent-20231003162900-SPI_to_do_with_Connexe_One"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-20231014074000-Timtrent-20231003162900","timestamp":"20231014074000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Timtrent-20231003162900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-SPI_to_do_with_Connexe_One-20231003162900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Timtrent-20231003162900-SPI_to_do_with_Connexe_One&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;SPI to do with Connexe One&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;SPI to do with Connexe One&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Timtrent-20231003162900-SPI_to_do_with_Connexe_One"></span>On 27 September you asked at <i>User talk:Genevieve Elodie Ottilie</i> for a relevant SPI. This may well be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Abbasshaikh124" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Abbasshaikh124">Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Abbasshaikh124</a>, where you should create a new report and place your evidence. 🇺🇦 <a href="/wiki/User:Timtrent" title="User:Timtrent"><span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Timtrent" title="User talk:Timtrent"><span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup></a> 🇺🇦 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Timtrent-20231003162900-SPI_to_do_with_Connexe_One" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 3 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Timtrent-20231003162900-SPI_to_do_with_Connexe_One"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231003162900","author":"Timtrent","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Timtrent-20231003162900-SPI_to_do_with_Connexe_One","replies":["c-Smuckola-20231014074000-Timtrent-20231003162900"],"displayName":"FiddleTimtrent"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Timtrent-20231003162900-SPI_to_do_with_Connexe_One"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-20231014074000-Timtrent-20231003162900"></span>Hi. As I said in that talk page, I don't have any evidence. Or else I would! The other person on that talk page has the only mention I've seen of a sockpuppet allegation. Thank you. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-20231014074000-Timtrent-20231003162900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:40, 14 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-20231014074000-Timtrent-20231003162900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231014074000","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-20231014074000-Timtrent-20231003162900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-20231014074000-Timtrent-20231003162900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-GoutComplex-20231004222700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thanks_for_the_thanks_2-20231004222700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-GoutComplex-20231004222700-Thanks_for_the_thanks_2&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thanks for the thanks&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thanks for the thanks 2&quot;}--><h2 id="Thanks_for_the_thanks_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks_for_the_thanks_2-20231004222700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks_for_the_thanks_2-20231004222700"></span>Thanks for the thanks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks_for_the_thanks_2-20231004222700"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-GoutComplex-20231004222700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Thanks_for_the_thanks_2-20231004222700","replies":["c-GoutComplex-20231004222700-Thanks_for_the_thanks_2"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-20231014074000-GoutComplex-20231004222700","timestamp":"20231014074000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-GoutComplex-20231004222700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thanks_for_the_thanks_2-20231004222700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-GoutComplex-20231004222700-Thanks_for_the_thanks_2&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thanks for the thanks&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thanks for the thanks 2&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoutComplex-20231004222700-Thanks_for_the_thanks_2"></span>I appreciate your response to my edit. I sure hope you don't run into any WikiCheetahmen or WikiLJNs in your editing life. <a href="/wiki/User:GoutComplex" title="User:GoutComplex">GoutComplex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoutComplex" title="User talk:GoutComplex">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-GoutComplex-20231004222700-Thanks_for_the_thanks_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:27, 4 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoutComplex-20231004222700-Thanks_for_the_thanks_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231004222700","author":"GoutComplex","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GoutComplex-20231004222700-Thanks_for_the_thanks_2","replies":["c-Smuckola-20231014074000-GoutComplex-20231004222700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoutComplex-20231004222700-Thanks_for_the_thanks_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-20231014074000-GoutComplex-20231004222700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GoutComplex" title="User:GoutComplex">GoutComplex</a>:</span> Hi! I didn't know if that edit of yours was any good about the CSA, and I was just praising new sourced content. But I <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Confederate_States_of_America&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=1178949650">guess not</a>. Then I saw your Talk page history, and I see that you really need to stop this habit of wild scattershot edits on extreme ranges of topics with zero focus, and then abandoning them all. That is not collegiate and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTHERE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTHERE">WP:NOTHERE</a> to build an encyclopedia. That's here to build a mess for other people to sort out. You really need to answer that talk page comment! However, I am steely eyed to take on any LJNs and Cheetahmen, my friend. We can't let the Cheetahmen win. Some LJN is good and I like playing <i><a href="/wiki/Jaws_(video_game)" title="Jaws (video game)">Jaws</a></i>! We can do this. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-20231014074000-GoutComplex-20231004222700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:40, 14 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-20231014074000-GoutComplex-20231004222700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231014074000","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-20231014074000-GoutComplex-20231004222700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-20231014074000-GoutComplex-20231004222700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-FuzzyMagma-20231013215900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started-20231013215900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-FuzzyMagma-20231013215900-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;I have sent you a note about a page you started&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;I have sent you a note about a page you started&quot;}--><h2 id="I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started" data-mw-thread-id="h-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started-20231013215900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started-20231013215900"></span>I have sent you a note about a page you started<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started-20231013215900"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-FuzzyMagma-20231013215900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started-20231013215900","replies":["c-FuzzyMagma-20231013215900-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-20231014084500-FuzzyMagma-20231014082700","timestamp":"20231014084500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__6__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-FuzzyMagma-20231013215900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started-20231013215900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-FuzzyMagma-20231013215900-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;I have sent you a note about a page you started&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;I have sent you a note about a page you started&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FuzzyMagma-20231013215900-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started"></span>Hello, Smuckola. Thank you for your work on <a href="/wiki/Union_Cemetery_(Kansas_City,_Missouri)" title="Union Cemetery (Kansas City, Missouri)">Union Cemetery (Kansas City, Missouri)</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:FuzzyMagma" title="User:FuzzyMagma">User:FuzzyMagma</a>, while examining this page as a part of our <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPP">page curation process</a>, had the following comments: </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1244412712">.mw-parser-output .templatequote{overflow:hidden;margin:1em 0;padding:0 32px}.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{line-height:1.5em;text-align:left;margin-top:0}@media(min-width:500px){.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{padding-left:1.6em}}</style><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>I fixed some images size but the infobox image need to be not more thee 400px width, please fix it if you can</p></blockquote> <p>To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">{{Re|FuzzyMagma}}</code>. Please remember to sign your reply with <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">~~~~</code>. <small>(Message delivered via the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Page_Curation/Help" title="Wikipedia:Page Curation/Help">Page Curation</a> tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)</small> </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:FuzzyMagma" title="User:FuzzyMagma">FuzzyMagma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FuzzyMagma" title="User talk:FuzzyMagma">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-FuzzyMagma-20231013215900-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:59, 13 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FuzzyMagma-20231013215900-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231013215900","author":"FuzzyMagma","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-FuzzyMagma-20231013215900-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started","replies":["c-Smuckola-20231014074000-FuzzyMagma-20231013215900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FuzzyMagma-20231013215900-I_have_sent_you_a_note_about_a_page_you_started"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-20231014074000-FuzzyMagma-20231013215900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:FuzzyMagma" title="User:FuzzyMagma">FuzzyMagma</a>:</span> Hello! I don't know why you're saying it's more than 400px because it has always said 400px. And maybe you can help change it away from static pixels to "thumb". It's so good of you to have patrolled the article, and to have read my mind because I was thinking of asking about this on Teahouse. Throughout Wikipedia, I am constantly deleting fixed alignments in favor of automatic defaults and user profile settings using "thumb". That is correct and optimal. This infobox was one rare exception, because it has two images. What's the optimal way to handle that? It seems that there's no way for two images to gain "thumb", because <a href="/wiki/Template:Multiple_images" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Multiple images">Template:multiple images</a> somehow doesn't support "thumb" and I can't do [[File:image1|thumb]]&lt;br/>[[File:image2|thumb]] without having captions. The only way I know of is to manually edit the images into a single collage jpeg and use "thumb". Thank you for doing page curation. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-20231014074000-FuzzyMagma-20231013215900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:40, 14 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-20231014074000-FuzzyMagma-20231013215900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231014074000","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-20231014074000-FuzzyMagma-20231013215900","replies":["c-FuzzyMagma-20231014080200-Smuckola-20231014074000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-20231014074000-FuzzyMagma-20231013215900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FuzzyMagma-20231014080200-Smuckola-20231014074000"></span>Sorry if my tune was accusatory but I tried to fix the infobox because I couldn’t do it without deleting one of the images. I had similar issues with <a href="/wiki/Burgtor_Cemetery" title="Burgtor Cemetery">Burgtor Cemetery</a> and I left one image and made a gallery in the middle. Asking in Teahouse as my approach will be to just take the top from the infobox as it doesn’t add that much at beginning and can be included somewhere in the article <a href="/wiki/User:FuzzyMagma" title="User:FuzzyMagma">FuzzyMagma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FuzzyMagma" title="User talk:FuzzyMagma">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-FuzzyMagma-20231014080200-Smuckola-20231014074000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:02, 14 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FuzzyMagma-20231014080200-Smuckola-20231014074000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231014080200","author":"FuzzyMagma","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-FuzzyMagma-20231014080200-Smuckola-20231014074000","replies":["c-Smuckola-20231014082300-FuzzyMagma-20231014080200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FuzzyMagma-20231014080200-Smuckola-20231014074000"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-20231014082300-FuzzyMagma-20231014080200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:FuzzyMagma" title="User:FuzzyMagma">FuzzyMagma</a>:</span> It's all good, you didn't sound like anything but a helpfully informative public servant, and I thank you a lot. I'll have to keep combing over what you did to seemingly fix the multiple images in the body, and I do not understand the new and inexplicable "perrow" feature. This is my first attempted use of it. The multiple images template is definitely rockin' good except for its inexplicable lack of "thumb" support. But like I said, the first thing is, you're telling me to make 400 become less than 400. What? — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-20231014082300-FuzzyMagma-20231014080200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:23, 14 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-20231014082300-FuzzyMagma-20231014080200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231014082300","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Smuckola-20231014082300-FuzzyMagma-20231014080200","replies":["c-FuzzyMagma-20231014082700-Smuckola-20231014082300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-20231014082300-FuzzyMagma-20231014080200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FuzzyMagma-20231014082700-Smuckola-20231014082300"></span>sorry, I meant it need to be 400px or less as per <a href="/wiki/MOS:IMGSIZE" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:IMGSIZE">MOS:IMGSIZE</a> <a href="/wiki/User:FuzzyMagma" title="User:FuzzyMagma">FuzzyMagma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FuzzyMagma" title="User talk:FuzzyMagma">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-FuzzyMagma-20231014082700-Smuckola-20231014082300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:27, 14 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FuzzyMagma-20231014082700-Smuckola-20231014082300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231014082700","author":"FuzzyMagma","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-FuzzyMagma-20231014082700-Smuckola-20231014082300","replies":["c-Smuckola-20231014084500-FuzzyMagma-20231014082700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FuzzyMagma-20231014082700-Smuckola-20231014082300"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-20231014084500-FuzzyMagma-20231014082700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:FuzzyMagma" title="User:FuzzyMagma">FuzzyMagma</a>:</span> I know. My dear compatriot, I already said that to you. You simply didn't make any sense from the start because you're not paying attention to the 400px width that's always been in the article from day one, long before your first comment, and you arent paying any attention to anything I've replied to you. I've told you that several times in this thread. You're not making any sense! :) My enthusiasm here is because I am always excited to research and comply with good standards, or to help a Wikipedian. But that's why I already did! ;) — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-20231014084500-FuzzyMagma-20231014082700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:45, 14 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-20231014084500-FuzzyMagma-20231014082700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231014084500","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Smuckola-20231014084500-FuzzyMagma-20231014082700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-20231014084500-FuzzyMagma-20231014082700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231109170400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-US_Mountain_West_online_meeting_November_14-20231109170400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231109170400-US_Mountain_West_online_meeting_November_14&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;US Mountain West online meeting November 14&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;US Mountain West online meeting November 14&quot;}--><h2 id="US_Mountain_West_online_meeting_November_14" data-mw-thread-id="h-US_Mountain_West_online_meeting_November_14-20231109170400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-US_Mountain_West_online_meeting_November_14-20231109170400"></span>US Mountain West online meeting November 14<span data-mw-comment-end="h-US_Mountain_West_online_meeting_November_14-20231109170400"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231109170400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-US_Mountain_West_online_meeting_November_14-20231109170400","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231109170400-US_Mountain_West_online_meeting_November_14"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231109170400-US_Mountain_West_online_meeting_November_14","timestamp":"20231109170400"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231109170400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-US_Mountain_West_online_meeting_November_14-20231109170400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231109170400-US_Mountain_West_online_meeting_November_14&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;US Mountain West online meeting November 14&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;US Mountain West online meeting November 14&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="float:right;margin:0 0 0 2em;padding=0;"> <tbody><tr> <td align="center"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231109170400-US_Mountain_West_online_meeting_November_14"></span><span class="mw-image-border" typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_United_States_Coalition" title="meta:Wikimedia United States Coalition"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/US_Mountain_West.png/200px-US_Mountain_West.png" decoding="async" width="200" height="135" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/US_Mountain_West.png/300px-US_Mountain_West.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/US_Mountain_West.png/400px-US_Mountain_West.png 2x" data-file-width="5912" data-file-height="4003"/></a></span> </td></tr> <tr> <td align="center"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/US_Mountain_West" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/US Mountain West"><span style="vertical-align:text-top;font-size:10pt;font-weight:bold;line-height:0.6em;">Wikimedia US Mountain West</span></a> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_movement" title="Wikimedia movement">Wikimedians</a> of the <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">U.S.</a> <a href="/wiki/Mountain_states" title="Mountain states">Mountain West</a> will hold an online meeting from 8:00 to 9:00 PM MST, Tuesday evening, November 14, 2023, at <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://meet.google.com/kfu-topq-zkd">meet.google.com/kfu-topq-zkd</a>. 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Opening Culture and Heritage training</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2023/Contents/C%C3%B4te_d%27Ivoire_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2023/Contents/Côte d'Ivoire report">Côte d'Ivoire report</a>: Wikimedia Côte d'Ivoire and Apsid-ci collaboration for Glam</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2023/Contents/Croatia_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2023/Contents/Croatia report">Croatia report</a>: Looong summer is over</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2023/Contents/Czech_Republic_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2023/Contents/Czech Republic report">Czech Republic report</a>: Great first results in State Regional Archives and Wikiresident Group coworking</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2023/Contents/Ireland_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2023/Contents/Ireland report">Ireland report</a>: Wikimedia Community Ireland Host WikiWomen Partner Meeting at Dublin's historical Port</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2023/Contents/Italy_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2023/Contents/Italy report">Italy report</a>: Results of funded projects within Call GLAM 2023</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2023/Contents/Netherlands_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2023/Contents/Netherlands report">Netherlands report</a>: Wiki Loves Fashion in the Netherlands</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2023/Contents/New_Zealand_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2023/Contents/New Zealand report">New Zealand report</a>: Biodiversity Information Standards Conference 2023 (TDWG2023) and the Entomological Collection Network Meeting (ECN2023)</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2023/Contents/Poland_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2023/Contents/Poland report">Poland report</a>: WikiMatejko, Internships, Open Heritage, folk costumes</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2023/Contents/Portugal_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2023/Contents/Portugal report">Portugal report</a>: Open Access Week celebrations and an edit-a-thon to increase the visibility of black lusophone communities</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2023/Contents/Serbia_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2023/Contents/Serbia report">Serbia report</a>: Dynamic October in Serbia</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2023/Contents/South_Africa_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2023/Contents/South Africa report">South Africa report</a>: Edit-a-thon for Librarians at the annual Library and Information Association of South Africa 2023 Conference</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2023/Contents/Sweden_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2023/Contents/Sweden report">Sweden report</a>: Wikipedia for all of Sweden; Museums and Wikidata – why and how?; Photo memories from Stockholm and Rome; Negotiating Knowledge on Wikipedia</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2023/Contents/Switzerland_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2023/Contents/Switzerland report">Switzerland report</a>: Swiss GLAM Programm</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2023/Contents/UK_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2023/Contents/UK report">UK report</a>: Good omens for a rosy future</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2023/Contents/USA_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2023/Contents/USA report">USA report</a>: Women in Environmental Justice; October WikiSalon</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2023/Contents/AvoinGLAM_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2023/Contents/AvoinGLAM report">AvoinGLAM report</a>: AvoinGLAM joins the long-awaited GLAM Wiki 2023</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2023/Contents/Content_Partnerships_Hub_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2023/Contents/Content Partnerships Hub report">Content Partnerships Hub report</a>: Let's Connect</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2023/Contents/Wiki_Loves_Living_Heritage_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2023/Contents/Wiki Loves Living Heritage report">Wiki Loves Living Heritage report</a>: Learning and sharing</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2023/Contents/Wikimedia_and_Libraries_User_Group_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2023/Contents/Wikimedia and Libraries User Group report">Wikimedia and Libraries User Group report</a>: The Wikimedia and Libraries AI Salons</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2023/Contents/Events" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2023/Contents/Events">Calendar</a>: November's GLAM events</li></ul> </div> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="font-family:Times New Roman; text-align:center; font-size:85%;"><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter">Read this edition in full</a> • <a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2023/Single" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2023/Single">Single-page</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td valign="top" colspan="2" style="padding:0.5em; font-family:Times New Roman;text-align:center; font-size:85%;"> <p>To assist with preparing the newsletter, please visit the <a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/Newsroom" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/Newsroom">newsroom</a>. Past editions may be viewed <a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/Archives" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/Archives">here</a>. </p> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/About" class="extiw" title="m:GLAM/Newsletter/About">About <i>This Month in GLAM</i></a> · <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/GLAM" class="extiw" title="m:Global message delivery/Targets/GLAM">Subscribe/Unsubscribe</a> · <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MassMessage" class="extiw" title="m:MassMessage">Global message delivery</a> · <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Romaine" class="extiw" title="m:User:Romaine">Romaine</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Romaine-20231111031400-This_Month_in_GLAM:_October_2023" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:14, 11 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Romaine-20231111031400-This_Month_in_GLAM:_October_2023"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231111031400","author":"Romaine","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Romaine-20231111031400-This_Month_in_GLAM:_October_2023","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Romaine-20231111031400-This_Month_in_GLAM:_October_2023"></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sammi_Brie-20231112184300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-KCPT-20231112184300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sammi_Brie-20231112184300-KCPT&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;KCPT&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;KCPT&quot;}--><h2 id="KCPT" data-mw-thread-id="h-KCPT-20231112184300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-KCPT-20231112184300"></span><a href="/wiki/KCPT" title="KCPT">KCPT</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-KCPT-20231112184300"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sammi_Brie-20231112184300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-KCPT-20231112184300","replies":["c-Sammi_Brie-20231112184300-KCPT"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Sammi_Brie-20231112184300-KCPT","timestamp":"20231112184300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sammi_Brie-20231112184300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-KCPT-20231112184300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sammi_Brie-20231112184300-KCPT&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;KCPT&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;KCPT&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sammi_Brie-20231112184300-KCPT"></span>Thanks for taking a look at this! Feels like the comments I'd get in a good GA review or FAC. I did revert one item where I felt your changes had introduced word ambiguity that the source didn't cover. I've also done <a href="/wiki/KSMO-TV" title="KSMO-TV">KSMO-TV</a> (already approved at GA) and improved <a href="/wiki/KSHB-TV" title="KSHB-TV">KSHB-TV</a> and <a href="/wiki/KCTV" title="KCTV">KCTV</a>. </p><p>I also removed <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|url-access=</code> from the citations, and I might as well explain why. That would make sense if the link pointed to a subscription-only resource, but the links all point to <i>clipped</i> Newspapers.com articles which can be freely viewed. (Frankly, any source link to Newspapers.com on the encyclopedia should be clipped for this reason alone, and I've held up pages at DYK and GAN so that gets done.) By the way, if you're an active editor, you can get access to Newspapers.com through <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TWL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TWL">the Wikipedia Library</a>. I was pointed in that direction more than four years ago, and it has been indispensable for the articles I write, particularly because the site has expanded its holdings so much in that time. <a href="/wiki/User:Sammi_Brie" title="User:Sammi Brie"><span style="color:#ba4168">Sammi Brie</span></a> (she/her • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sammi_Brie" title="User talk:Sammi Brie">t</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sammi_Brie" title="Special:Contributions/Sammi Brie">c</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Sammi_Brie-20231112184300-KCPT" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:43, 12 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sammi_Brie-20231112184300-KCPT"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231112184300","author":"Sammi Brie","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sammi_Brie-20231112184300-KCPT","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sammi_Brie-20231112184300-KCPT"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Imzadi1979-20231126060100&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Attached_KML-20231126060100&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Imzadi1979-20231126060100-Attached_KML&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Attached KML&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Attached KML&quot;}--><h2 id="Attached_KML" data-mw-thread-id="h-Attached_KML-20231126060100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Attached_KML-20231126060100"></span>Attached KML<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Attached_KML-20231126060100"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Imzadi1979-20231126060100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Attached_KML-20231126060100","replies":["c-Imzadi1979-20231126060100-Attached_KML"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Imzadi1979-20231126060100-Attached_KML","timestamp":"20231126060100"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Imzadi1979-20231126060100&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Attached_KML-20231126060100&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Imzadi1979-20231126060100-Attached_KML&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Attached KML&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Attached KML&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Imzadi1979-20231126060100-Attached_KML"></span>The template properly belongs in an external links section. It has contained external links within it to display the results of the KML in external mapping sites, and it will likely do so again in the future. The template itself isn't an internal link within Wikipedia, so it doesn't belong in a see also section. (Should external links not return to it, its utility to Wikipedia will have ended, and it should be deleted wholesale along with the KML files.) <span style="background:#006B54; padding:2px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Imzadi1979" title="User:Imzadi1979"><span style="color:white;">Imzadi 1979</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Imzadi1979" title="User talk:Imzadi1979"><span style="color:white;"><big>→</big></span></a></b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Imzadi1979-20231126060100-Attached_KML" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:01, 26 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Imzadi1979-20231126060100-Attached_KML"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231126060100","author":"Imzadi1979","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Imzadi1979-20231126060100-Attached_KML","replies":[],"displayName":"Imzadi\u00a01979"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Imzadi1979-20231126060100-Attached_KML"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Flake\u01a8osa-20231126185300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thanks-20231126185300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Flake\u01a8osa-20231126185300-Thanks&quot;,&quot;h-Note-Thanks-20231126232100&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thanks&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thanks&quot;}--><h2 id="Thanks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks-20231126185300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks-20231126185300"></span>Thanks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks-20231126185300"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Flake\u01a8osa-20231126185300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Thanks-20231126185300","replies":["c-Flake\u01a8osa-20231126185300-Thanks","h-Note-Thanks-20231126232100"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Flake\u01a8osa-20231126232100-Note","timestamp":"20231126232100"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Flake\u01a8osa-20231126185300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Thanks-20231126185300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Flake\u01a8osa-20231126185300-Thanks&quot;,&quot;h-Note-Thanks-20231126232100&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Thanks&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Thanks&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Flakeƨosa-20231126185300-Thanks"></span>Hello, I just wanna say many thanks for what you did on <a href="/wiki/Haiku_(operating_system)" title="Haiku (operating system)">Haiku (operating system)</a>. While a lot of info has been lost, at the end of the day it was necessary because indeed there was a ton of OR, trivia, 'crystal ball' and unreferenced stuff. It took someone bold like you to make a change like this after this article has turned into a mess for so many years. (the Haiku article was literally like the real-life <a href="/wiki/Copland_(operating_system)" title="Copland (operating system)">Copland project</a>!) </p><p>I must say there is only one thing I disagree with, which is your removal of the Version History table. Every OS or software article seems to have a version history table which means there's a consensus to have it for this topic. I would personally wanna see it reinstated. </p><p>Anyway, this article will need to be build back up with well-referenced, non-trivial/crystal ball info. I'll take a stab at improving it I hope. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Flake%C6%A8osa&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Flakeƨosa (page does not exist)">Flakeƨosa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flake%C6%A8osa" title="User talk:Flakeƨosa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Flakeƨosa-20231126185300-Thanks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:53, 26 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Flakeƨosa-20231126185300-Thanks"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231126185300","author":"Flake\u01a8osa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Flake\u01a8osa-20231126185300-Thanks","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Flakeƨosa-20231126185300-Thanks"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Note" data-mw-thread-id="h-Note-Thanks-20231126232100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Note-Thanks-20231126232100"></span>Note<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Note-Thanks-20231126232100"></span></h3></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Flakeƨosa-20231126232100-Note"></span>Just to let you know, I've sorta completed a newer, better well-referenced/notable Haiku article without the mess that it was before. I've removed the References Needed hatnote since I believe I've satisfied it for the most part now. Also, the <i>only</i> thing I've restored from before is the Version History table as I personally think it should be there. But anyway it's great to see the article in a much better encyclopedic state now. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Flake%C6%A8osa&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Flakeƨosa (page does not exist)">Flakeƨosa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flake%C6%A8osa" title="User talk:Flakeƨosa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Flakeƨosa-20231126232100-Note" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:21, 26 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Flakeƨosa-20231126232100-Note"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231126232100","author":"Flake\u01a8osa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Flake\u01a8osa-20231126232100-Note","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Flakeƨosa-20231126232100-Note"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Venky64-20231217230600&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Lufia_II_release_date-20231217230600&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Venky64-20231217230600-Lufia_II_release_date&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Lufia II release date&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Lufia II release date&quot;}--><h2 id="Lufia_II_release_date" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lufia_II_release_date-20231217230600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lufia_II_release_date-20231217230600"></span>Lufia II release date<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lufia_II_release_date-20231217230600"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Venky64-20231217230600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Lufia_II_release_date-20231217230600","replies":["c-Venky64-20231217230600-Lufia_II_release_date"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Smuckola-20231217234000-Venky64-20231217230600","timestamp":"20231217234000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Venky64-20231217230600&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Lufia_II_release_date-20231217230600&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Venky64-20231217230600-Lufia_II_release_date&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Lufia II release date&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Lufia II release date&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Venky64-20231217230600-Lufia_II_release_date"></span>Hi, </p><p>A few days ago, you <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Venky64#c-Smuckola-20231211025500-December_2023_original_research" title="User talk:Venky64">commented</a> under my talk page for the purpose of reminding me not to use original research in any capacity, and offered help by redirecting me towards WP:Library. I'm not sure where to ask for sources there, however, because the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Library/Research_desk/Archive_1#Sources_about_focal_seizures" title="Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library/Research desk/Archive 1">research desk</a> seems to have died upon inception. Could you point me towards release info for both the US and UK for <a href="/wiki/Lufia_II" class="mw-redirect" title="Lufia II">Lufia II</a> that doesn't contain original research? (US) Usenet forums are stating <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.video.nintendo/c/i1bd1c1pb9c/m/QQOMt1gA3RgJ">August 6</a>, corroborated by this <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.video.nintendo/c/kcql0qmvNxY/m/vK_Oos3gzdUJ">second source</a>, is the release date, and not May 1996, like the current page suggests. <a href="/wiki/User:Venky64" title="User:Venky64">Venky64</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Venky64" title="User talk:Venky64">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Venky64-20231217230600-Lufia_II_release_date" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:06, 17 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Venky64-20231217230600-Lufia_II_release_date"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231217230600","author":"Venky64","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Venky64-20231217230600-Lufia_II_release_date","replies":["c-Smuckola-20231217234000-Venky64-20231217230600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Venky64-20231217230600-Lufia_II_release_date"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smuckola-20231217234000-Venky64-20231217230600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Venky64" title="User:Venky64">Venky64</a>:</span> Hey there buddy. Im mobile right now but I hope youre doing well. Actually I meant <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RX" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RX">WP:RX</a>. Also there's <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VGRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VGRS">WP:VGRS</a> talk page to post inquiries. Ill look when I get home! <a href="/wiki/User:Martin_IIIa" title="User:Martin IIIa">Martin IIIa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_IIIa" title="User talk:Martin IIIa">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Martin_IIIa" title="Special:Contributions/Martin IIIa">contribs</a>) is good at sourcing dead trees too sometimes. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Smuckola" title="User:Smuckola">Smuckola</a><a class="mw-selflink selflink">(talk)</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Smuckola-20231217234000-Venky64-20231217230600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:40, 17 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smuckola-20231217234000-Venky64-20231217230600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231217234000","author":"Smuckola","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Smuckola-20231217234000-Venky64-20231217230600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smuckola-20231217234000-Venky64-20231217230600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Clovermoss-20231225203600&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-ANV-20231225203600&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Clovermoss-20231225203600-ANV&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;ANV&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;ANV&quot;}--><h2 id="ANV" data-mw-thread-id="h-ANV-20231225203600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ANV-20231225203600"></span>ANV<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ANV-20231225203600"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Clovermoss-20231225203600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ANV-20231225203600","replies":["c-Clovermoss-20231225203600-ANV"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Clovermoss-20231225203600-ANV","timestamp":"20231225203600"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Clovermoss-20231225203600&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-ANV-20231225203600&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Clovermoss-20231225203600-ANV&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;ANV&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;ANV&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Clovermoss-20231225203600-ANV"></span>Hi, I'm a new admin. I did deal with the block evasion <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrator_intervention_against_vandalism&amp;diff=1191788415&amp;oldid=1191787311">here</a> but I'm not comfortable indefinitely protecting a talk page. If you feel that strongly about it, I'd suggest posting to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFPP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFPP">WP:RFPP</a>. I have a feeling that said request would likely be denied, but I could be wrong. <a href="/wiki/User:Clovermoss" title="User:Clovermoss"><span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Clovermoss" title="User talk:Clovermoss">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Clovermoss-20231225203600-ANV" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:36, 25 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Clovermoss-20231225203600-ANV"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231225203600","author":"Clovermoss","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Clovermoss-20231225203600-ANV","replies":[],"displayName":"Clovermoss\ud83c\udf40"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Clovermoss-20231225203600-ANV"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Patapsco913-20240204011500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Overland_Park,_Kansas-20240204011500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Patapsco913-20240204011500-Overland_Park,_Kansas&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Overland Park, Kansas&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Overland Park, Kansas&quot;}--><h2 id="Overland_Park,_Kansas" data-mw-thread-id="h-Overland_Park,_Kansas-20240204011500"><span id="Overland_Park.2C_Kansas"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Overland_Park,_Kansas-20240204011500"></span><a href="/wiki/Overland_Park,_Kansas" title="Overland Park, Kansas">Overland Park, Kansas</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Overland_Park,_Kansas-20240204011500"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Patapsco913-20240204011500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Overland_Park,_Kansas-20240204011500","replies":["c-Patapsco913-20240204011500-Overland_Park,_Kansas"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Patapsco913-20240204011500-Overland_Park,_Kansas","timestamp":"20240204011500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Patapsco913-20240204011500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Overland_Park,_Kansas-20240204011500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Patapsco913-20240204011500-Overland_Park,_Kansas&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Overland Park, Kansas&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Overland Park, Kansas&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Patapsco913-20240204011500-Overland_Park,_Kansas"></span>Hello Smuckola, regarding your reversion of the table on <a href="/wiki/Overland_Park" class="mw-redirect" title="Overland Park">Overland Park</a>. There are literally 1000s of articles where the census information is presented with a table - some with prose, some without as tables are pretty much self-explanatory (and there are even editors removing all prose prior to 2020 as dated). The table at hand allows us to easily compare 2020 to prior years and measure the shift in the racial/Hispanic population over time. otherwise, one would have to read the prose for 2020, jump to the prose for 2010, and then jump to the prose for 2000. <a href="/wiki/Kansas_City,_Missouri#Demographics" title="Kansas City, Missouri">Kansas City, Missouri#Demographics</a> has a table. Are you saying that it should be removed as well? Cheers <a href="/wiki/User:Patapsco913" title="User:Patapsco913">Patapsco913</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patapsco913" title="User talk:Patapsco913">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Patapsco913-20240204011500-Overland_Park,_Kansas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:15, 4 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Patapsco913-20240204011500-Overland_Park,_Kansas"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240204011500","author":"Patapsco913","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Patapsco913-20240204011500-Overland_Park,_Kansas","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Patapsco913-20240204011500-Overland_Park,_Kansas"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Panini!-20240305010600&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Just_thought_you_should_know-20240305010600&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Panini!-20240305010600-Just_thought_you_should_know&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Just thought you should know&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Just thought you should know&quot;}--><h2 id="Just_thought_you_should_know" data-mw-thread-id="h-Just_thought_you_should_know-20240305010600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Just_thought_you_should_know-20240305010600"></span>Just thought you should know<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Just_thought_you_should_know-20240305010600"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Panini!-20240305010600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Just_thought_you_should_know-20240305010600","replies":["c-Panini!-20240305010600-Just_thought_you_should_know"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Panini!-20240305010600-Just_thought_you_should_know","timestamp":"20240305010600"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Panini!-20240305010600&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Just_thought_you_should_know-20240305010600&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Panini!-20240305010600-Just_thought_you_should_know&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Just thought you should know&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Just thought you should know&quot;}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Panini!-20240305010600-Just_thought_you_should_know"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File/Frame"><a href="/wiki/File:Editor_-_rhodium_star_II.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Editor_-_rhodium_star_II.jpg" decoding="async" width="142" height="196" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="142" data-file-height="196"/></a><figcaption><div style="background-color:lightblue;text-align:center;">This editor is a<br/><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Service_awards#Senior_Editor_II_(or_Most_Pluperfect_Labutnum)" title="Wikipedia:Service awards"><big>Senior Editor II</big></a></b><br/> and is entitled to display this <b><a href="/wiki/Rhodium" title="Rhodium">Rhodium</a><br/>Editor Star</b>.</div></figcaption></figure> <p>I remember seeing you first when I worked on <i>Super Paper Mario</i> a few years ago. You were a Veteran Editor at the time. Now that I myself am a Veteran Editor I checked back again, and I saw you were still classified as a senior editor. </p><p>I checked your user settings and found out your are far beyond this status; you're in fact a Senior Editor II. I'm not sure if you have kept it like this on purpose, but I thought I'd let you know just in case. Congrats! <a href="/wiki/User:Panini!" title="User:Panini!"><span style="color:#F40">Panini!</span></a> <span style="color:#F40">•</span> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Panini!" title="User talk:Panini!">🥪</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Panini!-20240305010600-Just_thought_you_should_know" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:06, 5 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Panini!-20240305010600-Just_thought_you_should_know"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240305010600","author":"Panini!","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Panini!-20240305010600-Just_thought_you_should_know","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Panini!-20240305010600-Just_thought_you_should_know"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Newslinger-20240307075200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_barnstar_for_you!_11-20240307075200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Newslinger-20240307075200-A_barnstar_for_you!_11&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you! 11&quot;}--><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!_11" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_11-20240307075200"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21_11"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_11-20240307075200"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_11-20240307075200"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Newslinger-20240307075200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-A_barnstar_for_you!_11-20240307075200","replies":["c-Newslinger-20240307075200-A_barnstar_for_you!_11"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Newslinger-20240307075200-A_barnstar_for_you!_11","timestamp":"20240307075200"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Newslinger-20240307075200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-A_barnstar_for_you!_11-20240307075200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Newslinger-20240307075200-A_barnstar_for_you!_11&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;A barnstar for you! 11&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Newslinger-20240307075200-A_barnstar_for_you!_11"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Barnstar_of_Reliability.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/Barnstar_of_Reliability.png/100px-Barnstar_of_Reliability.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/Barnstar_of_Reliability.png/150px-Barnstar_of_Reliability.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/Barnstar_of_Reliability.png/200px-Barnstar_of_Reliability.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>Barnstar of Reliability</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Thank you, Smuckola, for ensuring that articles are consistent with the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">verifiability policy</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable sources guideline</a> by vetting content additions for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">original research</a> and other unencyclopedic material. I appreciate your vigilance in keeping Wikipedia <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PROMO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PROMO">free of promotion</a>. Your efforts make Wikipedia a more trustworthy resource for our readers. — <i><b><a href="/wiki/User:Newslinger" title="User:Newslinger"><span style="color:#536267;">Newslinger</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Newslinger#top" title="User talk:Newslinger"><span style="color:#708090;">talk</span></a></small></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Newslinger-20240307075200-A_barnstar_for_you!_11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:52, 7 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Newslinger-20240307075200-A_barnstar_for_you!_11"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240307075200","author":"Newslinger","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Newslinger-20240307075200-A_barnstar_for_you!_11","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Newslinger-20240307075200-A_barnstar_for_you!_11"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Newslinger-20240307075300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Apple_community-20240307075300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Newslinger-20240307075300-Apple_community&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Apple community&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Apple community&quot;}--><h2 id="Apple_community" data-mw-thread-id="h-Apple_community-20240307075300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Apple_community-20240307075300"></span><a href="/wiki/Apple_community" title="Apple community">Apple community</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Apple_community-20240307075300"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Newslinger-20240307075300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Apple_community-20240307075300","replies":["c-Newslinger-20240307075300-Apple_community"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Newslinger-20240307075300-Apple_community","timestamp":"20240307075300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Newslinger-20240307075300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Apple_community-20240307075300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Newslinger-20240307075300-Apple_community&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Apple community&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Apple community&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Newslinger-20240307075300-Apple_community"></span>Hi Smuckola, thank you for removing improperly sourced content from the <a href="/wiki/Apple_community" title="Apple community">Apple community</a> article and for defending your edits with policy-based reasoning. I also want to apologize for not responding sooner. Your edits have brought the article one step closer to Wikipedia's standards, and I don't want to give you the impression that your work is unappreciated. On the contrary, when I look through your contributions and see your reports on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AIV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AIV">vandalism noticeboard</a>, it's clear that your time and effort on Wikipedia have improved many articles to the benefit of a large number of readers. </p><p>I do want to clarify that, per the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:INVOLVED" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:INVOLVED">policy against taking involved administrative actions</a>, I cannot block any editor that I am in a content dispute with unless the situation is sufficiently obvious (e.g. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VAND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VAND">blatant vandalism</a>), and even then, the recommendation is for me to use a noticeboard to request action from an uninvolved administrator. Also, while <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jimthing">Jimthing</a></span> was <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EW" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EW">edit warring</a> on the <a href="/wiki/Apple_community" title="Apple community">Apple community</a> article, they did not violate the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:3RR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:3RR">three-revert rule</a> on that article because multiple reverts performed within contiguous edits only count as a single revert. </p><p>Responding to your comment at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Apple_community#ScreenCastsOnline" title="Talk:Apple community">Talk:Apple community § ScreenCastsOnline</a>, I will take some time to review the rest of the content on the <a href="/wiki/Apple_community" title="Apple community">Apple community</a> article and post any points of discussion on the talk page. Thanks again. — <i><b><a href="/wiki/User:Newslinger" title="User:Newslinger"><span style="color:#536267;">Newslinger</span></a></b> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Newslinger#top" title="User talk:Newslinger"><span style="color:#708090;">talk</span></a></small></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Newslinger-20240307075300-Apple_community" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:53, 7 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Newslinger-20240307075300-Apple_community"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240307075300","author":"Newslinger","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Newslinger-20240307075300-Apple_community","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Newslinger-20240307075300-Apple_community"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Overthrow-dictator-20240403152300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Croat-Bosniak_War_dispute-20240403152300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Overthrow-dictator-20240403152300-Croat-Bosniak_War_dispute&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Croat-Bosniak War dispute&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Croat-Bosniak War dispute&quot;}--><h2 id="Croat-Bosniak_War_dispute" data-mw-thread-id="h-Croat-Bosniak_War_dispute-20240403152300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Croat-Bosniak_War_dispute-20240403152300"></span>Croat-Bosniak War dispute<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Croat-Bosniak_War_dispute-20240403152300"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Overthrow-dictator-20240403152300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Croat-Bosniak_War_dispute-20240403152300","replies":["c-Overthrow-dictator-20240403152300-Croat-Bosniak_War_dispute"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Overthrow-dictator-20240403152300-Croat-Bosniak_War_dispute","timestamp":"20240403152300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Overthrow-dictator-20240403152300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Croat-Bosniak_War_dispute-20240403152300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Overthrow-dictator-20240403152300-Croat-Bosniak_War_dispute&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Croat-Bosniak War dispute&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Croat-Bosniak War dispute&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Overthrow-dictator-20240403152300-Croat-Bosniak_War_dispute"></span>Ok so, I have messaged you this since I want this dispute to end and if you can figure this out, i'd be very happy. </p><p>How did the <a href="/wiki/Croat%E2%80%93Bosniak_War" title="Croat–Bosniak War">Croat–Bosniak War</a> end? Was it because of a Bosnian victory or because it ended by the <a href="/wiki/Washington_Agreement" title="Washington Agreement">Washington Agreement</a>? I am saying this because two users are disputing about how the war ended (I'm not naming). I personally think the agreement ended the war, but one person says it is a Bosnian victory due to the agreement, while another says the agreement purely ended it. </p><p>If you could message me back and tell me your opinion, that'd be great. If a talk page discussion should be added, let me know. </p><p><i>Tvoj zločinac iz Srbije,</i> <a href="/wiki/User:Overthrow-dictator" title="User:Overthrow-dictator">Overthrow-dictator</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Overthrow-dictator" title="User talk:Overthrow-dictator">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Overthrow-dictator-20240403152300-Croat-Bosniak_War_dispute" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:23, 3 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Overthrow-dictator-20240403152300-Croat-Bosniak_War_dispute"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240403152300","author":"Overthrow-dictator","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Overthrow-dictator-20240403152300-Croat-Bosniak_War_dispute","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Overthrow-dictator-20240403152300-Croat-Bosniak_War_dispute"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-VenFlyer98-20240624034500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Continuing_the_conversation...-20240624034500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-VenFlyer98-20240624034500-Continuing_the_conversation...&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Continuing the conversation...&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Continuing the conversation...&quot;}--><h2 id="Continuing_the_conversation..." data-mw-thread-id="h-Continuing_the_conversation...-20240624034500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Continuing_the_conversation...-20240624034500"></span>Continuing the conversation...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Continuing_the_conversation...-20240624034500"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-VenFlyer98-20240624034500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Continuing_the_conversation...-20240624034500","replies":["c-VenFlyer98-20240624034500-Continuing_the_conversation..."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-VenFlyer98-20240624034500-Continuing_the_conversation...","timestamp":"20240624034500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-VenFlyer98-20240624034500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Continuing_the_conversation...-20240624034500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-VenFlyer98-20240624034500-Continuing_the_conversation...&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Continuing the conversation...&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Continuing the conversation...&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VenFlyer98-20240624034500-Continuing_the_conversation..."></span>Hey, Smuckola. Just thought I'd continue the conversation here from <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Saturnpilot" title="User talk:Saturnpilot">User talk:Saturnpilot</a>. The user once again deleted their talk page, including all my recent warnings/notices and the conversation we were having <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Saturnpilot&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=1230643711">[4]</a>. While I have considered bringing it up to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI">WP:ANI</a>, the issue is I don't think anything would happen. Saturnpilot isn't editing in bad faith, I do believe most of their edits are in good faith, and I don't believe there is a policy against not responding on talk pages. The only thing I'd say we have a case with is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CIR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CIR">WP:CIR</a>, as it states competence is "the ability to communicate with other editors and abide by consensus" and with the user's inability to respond to any messages or use any edit summaries, I'd say that's a pretty clear failure to communicate with other editors. However, as I said, I don't think I'd have much of a case bringing it to the noticeboard, but perhaps if the user continues this pattern I'll do it. If that happens I'll be sure to tag you as you previously mentioned. (<a href="/wiki/User:VenFlyer98" title="User:VenFlyer98">VenFlyer98</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:VenFlyer98" title="User talk:VenFlyer98">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-VenFlyer98-20240624034500-Continuing_the_conversation..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:45, 24 June 2024 (UTC)</a>)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VenFlyer98-20240624034500-Continuing_the_conversation..."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240624034500","author":"VenFlyer98","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-VenFlyer98-20240624034500-Continuing_the_conversation...","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VenFlyer98-20240624034500-Continuing_the_conversation..."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Cwater1-20240730010200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Apologies-20240730010200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Cwater1-20240730010200-Apologies&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Apologies&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Apologies&quot;}--><h2 id="Apologies" data-mw-thread-id="h-Apologies-20240730010200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Apologies-20240730010200"></span>Apologies<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Apologies-20240730010200"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cwater1-20240730010200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Apologies-20240730010200","replies":["c-Cwater1-20240730010200-Apologies"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Cwater1-20240730010200-Apologies","timestamp":"20240730010200"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Cwater1-20240730010200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Apologies-20240730010200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Cwater1-20240730010200-Apologies&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Apologies&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Apologies&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cwater1-20240730010200-Apologies"></span>I apologize for that adding that statement about <a href="/wiki/Baja_Blast" title="Baja Blast">Baja Blast</a> being free on July 29, 2024. I wasn't trying to create advertisement. <a href="/wiki/User:Cwater1" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Cwater1">Cwater1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cwater1" title="User talk:Cwater1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Cwater1-20240730010200-Apologies" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:02, 30 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cwater1-20240730010200-Apologies"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240730010200","author":"Cwater1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cwater1-20240730010200-Apologies","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cwater1-20240730010200-Apologies"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Romaine-20240812025800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2024-20240812025800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Romaine-20240812025800-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2024&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;This Month in GLAM: July 2024&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;This Month in GLAM: July 2024&quot;}--><h2 id="This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2024-20240812025800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2024-20240812025800"></span><i>This Month in GLAM</i>: July 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2024-20240812025800"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Romaine-20240812025800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2024-20240812025800","replies":["c-Romaine-20240812025800-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2024"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Romaine-20240812025800-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2024","timestamp":"20240812025800"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Romaine-20240812025800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2024-20240812025800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Romaine-20240812025800-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2024&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;This Month in GLAM: July 2024&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;This Month in GLAM: July 2024&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="width:100%;"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" align="center" style="border:1px gray solid; 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GLAM Global Calls</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/July_2024/Contents/Events" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/July 2024/Contents/Events">Calendar</a>: August's GLAM events</li></ul> </div> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="font-family:Times New Roman; text-align:center; font-size:85%;"><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter">Read this edition in full</a> • <a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/July_2024/Single" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/July 2024/Single">Single-page</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td valign="top" colspan="2" style="padding:0.5em; font-family:Times New Roman;text-align:center; font-size:85%;"> <p>To assist with preparing the newsletter, please visit the <a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/Newsroom" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/Newsroom">newsroom</a>. Past editions may be viewed <a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/Archives" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/Archives">here</a>. </p> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/About" class="extiw" title="m:GLAM/Newsletter/About">About <i>This Month in GLAM</i></a> · <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/GLAM" class="extiw" title="m:Global message delivery/Targets/GLAM">Subscribe/Unsubscribe</a> · <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MassMessage" class="extiw" title="m:MassMessage">Global message delivery</a> · <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Romaine" class="extiw" title="m:User:Romaine">Romaine</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Romaine-20240812025800-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:58, 12 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Romaine-20240812025800-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240812025800","author":"Romaine","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Romaine-20240812025800-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2024","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Romaine-20240812025800-This_Month_in_GLAM:_July_2024"></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-WhisperToMe-20240825172900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Red_linking-20240825172900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-WhisperToMe-20240825172900-Red_linking&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Red linking&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Red linking&quot;}--><h2 id="Red_linking" data-mw-thread-id="h-Red_linking-20240825172900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Red_linking-20240825172900"></span>Red linking<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Red_linking-20240825172900"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-WhisperToMe-20240825172900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Red_linking-20240825172900","replies":["c-WhisperToMe-20240825172900-Red_linking"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-WhisperToMe-20240825172900-Red_linking","timestamp":"20240825172900"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-WhisperToMe-20240825172900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Red_linking-20240825172900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-WhisperToMe-20240825172900-Red_linking&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Red linking&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Red linking&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WhisperToMe-20240825172900-Red_linking"></span>Hi! I <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Killers_of_the_Flower_Moon_(book)&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=1241958958">read the edit summary</a>. </p><p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Red_link" title="Wikipedia:Red link">Wikipedia:Red link</a> states: "In general, a red link should remain in an article if there is a reasonable expectation that the article in question will eventually be created (either as its own article or as a redirect); remove red links if and only if Wikipedia should not have any coverage on the subject." It even states: "But please do not "kill" red links by redirect because their red color (annoying to some readers) seems to scream for a fix." </p><p>I ultimately created the article on the school district, but I felt like I wanted to talk a bit about redlinking. I understand that red links don't look great. They do look unslightly. But I think the idea is to push, push, push the users into saying "Hey, this needs to have an article. We need to create it." Also, I think it's there to teach users through osmosis that these topics are to have articles while others do not. </p><p>I do notice, over the years (I began editing in 2003) that there is a lot less redlinking than before, and not only because the project matured. I kind of get a sense that people want articles to look neater, but I think the passive consumers of articles don't get a sense anymore of how much expansion Wikipedia needs. <a href="/wiki/User:WhisperToMe" title="User:WhisperToMe">WhisperToMe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WhisperToMe" title="User talk:WhisperToMe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-WhisperToMe-20240825172900-Red_linking" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:29, 25 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WhisperToMe-20240825172900-Red_linking"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240825172900","author":"WhisperToMe","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WhisperToMe-20240825172900-Red_linking","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WhisperToMe-20240825172900-Red_linking"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-SDZeroBot-20240827010100&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Nomination_of_Clear_craze_for_deletion-20240827010100&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-SDZeroBot-20240827010100-Nomination_of_Clear_craze_for_deletion&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Nomination of Clear craze for deletion&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Nomination of Clear craze for deletion&quot;}--><h2 id="Nomination_of_Clear_craze_for_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nomination_of_Clear_craze_for_deletion-20240827010100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nomination_of_Clear_craze_for_deletion-20240827010100"></span>Nomination of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Clear_craze&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Clear craze (page does not exist)">Clear craze</a> for deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nomination_of_Clear_craze_for_deletion-20240827010100"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SDZeroBot-20240827010100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Nomination_of_Clear_craze_for_deletion-20240827010100","replies":["c-SDZeroBot-20240827010100-Nomination_of_Clear_craze_for_deletion"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-SDZeroBot-20240827010100-Nomination_of_Clear_craze_for_deletion","timestamp":"20240827010100"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-SDZeroBot-20240827010100&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Nomination_of_Clear_craze_for_deletion-20240827010100&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-SDZeroBot-20240827010100-Nomination_of_Clear_craze_for_deletion&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Nomination of Clear craze for deletion&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Nomination of Clear craze for deletion&quot;}--></div></div></div> <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SDZeroBot-20240827010100-Nomination_of_Clear_craze_for_deletion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span></span></div><p>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article <a href="/w/index.php?title=Clear_craze&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Clear craze (page does not exist)">Clear craze</a>, to which you have <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/authorship/en.wikipedia.org/Clear_craze">significantly contributed</a>, is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_policies_and_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines">Wikipedia's policies and guidelines</a> or if it should be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy" title="Wikipedia:Deletion policy">deleted</a>. </p><p>The discussion will take place at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Clear_craze" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clear craze">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clear craze</a></b> until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. 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font-family:Times New Roman;"> <b><u>Headlines</u></b></span> </td></tr> <tr style="font-size:10pt; font-family:Times New Roman; text-align:center;"> <td><div style="text-align:left; column-count:2; column-width:28em; vertical-align:top;"> <ul><li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2024/Contents/Aruba_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2024/Contents/Aruba report">Aruba report</a>: Vacancy Wikimedian in Residence for Wikipedia on Aruba - Aruba on Wikipedia project</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2024/Contents/Brazil_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2024/Contents/Brazil report">Brazil report</a>: Technology and biodiversity: “Amazonian Knowledge on Wiki”</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2024/Contents/Colombia_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2024/Contents/Colombia report">Colombia report</a>: Colombia in Wikimania Mood</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2024/Contents/Czech_Republic_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2024/Contents/Czech Republic report">Czech Republic report</a>: Cooperation between National Library and Wikimedia CR was presented at Wikimania 2024</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2024/Contents/India_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2024/Contents/India report">India report</a>: Wikimedians-in-residence assigned to add lexicographical data of 5 endangered languages of West Bengal</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2024/Contents/Netherlands_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2024/Contents/Netherlands report">Netherlands report</a>: 10 reasons why the National Library of the Netherlands moved its Wikimedia-related publications from SlideShare to Zenodo, and keeps them on Wikimedia Commons</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2024/Contents/New_Zealand_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2024/Contents/New Zealand report">New Zealand report</a>: Looking for Aotearoa's next roving Wikipedian, a Wikidata Te Papa research expeditions publication &amp; the Wikidata WikiProject IBC follow-up workshop</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2024/Contents/Macedonia_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2024/Contents/Macedonia report">North Macedonia report</a>: An insight of Wkikimedia MKD's 2024 GLAM Programme</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2024/Contents/Poland_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2024/Contents/Poland report">Poland report</a>: What's up in GLAM-Wiki in Poland</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2024/Contents/Switzerland_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2024/Contents/Switzerland report">Switzerland report</a>: Swiss GLAM Programme</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2024/Contents/UK_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2024/Contents/UK report">UK report</a>: Indonesian Featured Article award</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2024/Contents/USA_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2024/Contents/USA report">USA report</a>: Wikimania report and meetups</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2024/Contents/Biodiversity_Heritage_Library_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2024/Contents/Biodiversity Heritage Library report">Biodiversity Heritage Library report</a>: BHL-Wiki Working Group August monthly highlights</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2024/Contents/Special_story" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2024/Contents/Special story">Special story</a>: Global GLAM Wiki Meetup - Future meetings and outcomes</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2024/Contents/AvoinGLAM_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2024/Contents/AvoinGLAM report">AvoinGLAM report</a>: AvoinGLAM at Wikimania</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2024/Contents/Content_Partnerships_Hub_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2024/Contents/Content Partnerships Hub report">Content Partnerships Hub report</a>: Content Partnerships Hub at Wikimania; The Helpdesk; Metabase; UN collaboration day</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2024/Contents/WMF_GLAM_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2024/Contents/WMF GLAM report">WMF GLAM report</a>: Commons Impact Metrics, WikiLibCon25, and WikiConference North America</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2024/Contents/Events" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2024/Contents/Events">Calendar</a>: September's GLAM events</li></ul> </div> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="font-family:Times New Roman; text-align:center; font-size:85%;"><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter">Read this edition in full</a> • <a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/August_2024/Single" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/August 2024/Single">Single-page</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td valign="top" colspan="2" style="padding:0.5em; 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Past editions may be viewed <a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/Archives" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/Archives">here</a>. </p> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/About" class="extiw" title="m:GLAM/Newsletter/About">About <i>This Month in GLAM</i></a> · <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/GLAM" class="extiw" title="m:Global message delivery/Targets/GLAM">Subscribe/Unsubscribe</a> · <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MassMessage" class="extiw" title="m:MassMessage">Global message delivery</a> · <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Romaine" class="extiw" title="m:User:Romaine">Romaine</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-Romaine-20240911104700-This_Month_in_GLAM:_August_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:47, 11 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Romaine-20240911104700-This_Month_in_GLAM:_August_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240911104700","author":"Romaine","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Romaine-20240911104700-This_Month_in_GLAM:_August_2024","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Romaine-20240911104700-This_Month_in_GLAM:_August_2024"></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-BoleroGoleador-20240913071800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Question_about_edit_reversion-20240913071800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-BoleroGoleador-20240913071800-Question_about_edit_reversion&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Question about edit reversion&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Question about edit reversion&quot;}--><h2 id="Question_about_edit_reversion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_about_edit_reversion-20240913071800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_about_edit_reversion-20240913071800"></span>Question about edit reversion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_about_edit_reversion-20240913071800"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-BoleroGoleador-20240913071800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Question_about_edit_reversion-20240913071800","replies":["c-BoleroGoleador-20240913071800-Question_about_edit_reversion"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-BoleroGoleador-20240913071800-Question_about_edit_reversion","timestamp":"20240913071800"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-BoleroGoleador-20240913071800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Question_about_edit_reversion-20240913071800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-BoleroGoleador-20240913071800-Question_about_edit_reversion&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Question about edit reversion&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Question about edit reversion&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BoleroGoleador-20240913071800-Question_about_edit_reversion"></span>Hi Smuckola, You recently reverted my edit on the page of peruvian congressman <a href="/wiki/Eduardo_Salhuana" title="Eduardo Salhuana">Eduardo Salhuana</a>*. I appreciate the WP:RS and WP:LEAD tags but could you please show me how my edition would meet these standards. I believe the reversion has left the article in an outdated state with missing information. </p> <ul><li><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eduardo_Salhuana&amp;oldid=1245323431">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eduardo_Salhuana&amp;oldid=1245323431</a></li></ul> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BoleroGoleador" title="User:BoleroGoleador">BoleroGoleador</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BoleroGoleador" title="User talk:BoleroGoleador">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-BoleroGoleador-20240913071800-Question_about_edit_reversion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:18, 13 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BoleroGoleador-20240913071800-Question_about_edit_reversion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240913071800","author":"BoleroGoleador","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BoleroGoleador-20240913071800-Question_about_edit_reversion","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BoleroGoleador-20240913071800-Question_about_edit_reversion"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241108170200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Online_meet_-_November_12,_2024-20241108170200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241108170200-Online_meet_-_November_12,_2024&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Online meet - November 12, 2024&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Online meet - November 12, 2024&quot;}--><h2 id="Online_meet_-_November_12,_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-Online_meet_-_November_12,_2024-20241108170200"><span id="Online_meet_-_November_12.2C_2024"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Online_meet_-_November_12,_2024-20241108170200"></span>Online meet - November 12, 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Online_meet_-_November_12,_2024-20241108170200"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241108170200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Online_meet_-_November_12,_2024-20241108170200","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241108170200-Online_meet_-_November_12,_2024"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241108170200-Online_meet_-_November_12,_2024","timestamp":"20241108170200"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241108170200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Online_meet_-_November_12,_2024-20241108170200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241108170200-Online_meet_-_November_12,_2024&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Online meet - November 12, 2024&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Online meet - November 12, 2024&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="float:right;margin:0 0 0 2em;padding=0;"> <tbody><tr> <td align="center"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241108170200-Online_meet_-_November_12,_2024"></span><span class="mw-image-border" typeof="mw:File"><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_United_States_Coalition" title="meta:Wikimedia United States Coalition"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/US_Mountain_West.png/200px-US_Mountain_West.png" decoding="async" width="200" height="135" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/US_Mountain_West.png/300px-US_Mountain_West.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/US_Mountain_West.png/400px-US_Mountain_West.png 2x" data-file-width="5912" data-file-height="4003"/></a></span> </td></tr> <tr> <td align="center"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/US_Mountain_West" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/US Mountain West"><span style="vertical-align:text-top;font-size:10pt;font-weight:bold;line-height:0.6em;">Wikimedia US Mountain West</span></a> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>We will host an online meet for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_community" title="Wikipedia community">Wikipedia users</a> from 8:00 to 9:00 PM MST, Tuesday evening, November 12, 2024, at <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://meet.google.com/kfu-topq-zkd">meet.google.com/kfu-topq-zkd</a>. We will have reports from <a href="https://wikiconference.org/wiki/2024/Main_Page" class="extiw" title="wikiconference:2024/Main Page">WikiConference North America 2024</a>. We hope to organize a <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/North_American_Wikimedians/Hub_founding" class="extiw" title="metawiki:North American Wikimedians/Hub founding">North American Hub</a> to support local activities. Anyone interested in the future direction of Wikipedia and the <a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_movement" title="Wikimedia movement">Wikimedia movement</a> is encouraged to attend. Help is available for new users, and all guests are welcome. Please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/US_Mountain_West/2024-11-12" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/US Mountain West/2024-11-12">our meeting page</a> for details. </p><p><span style="font-size:75%;line-height:0em;">If you don't wish to receive these invitations any more, please remove your username from our <b><span class="nowrap"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/US_Mountain_West/Invitation_list" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/US Mountain West/Invitation list">invitaion list</a></span></b>. Thanks.</span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241108170200-Online_meet_-_November_12,_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:02, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241108170200-Online_meet_-_November_12,_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241108170200","author":"MediaWiki message delivery","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241108170200-Online_meet_-_November_12,_2024","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241108170200-Online_meet_-_November_12,_2024"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Romaine-20241110151800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_October_2024-20241110151800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Romaine-20241110151800-This_Month_in_GLAM:_October_2024&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;This Month in GLAM: October 2024&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;This Month in GLAM: October 2024&quot;}--><h2 id="This_Month_in_GLAM:_October_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_October_2024-20241110151800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_October_2024-20241110151800"></span><i>This Month in GLAM</i>: October 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_October_2024-20241110151800"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Romaine-20241110151800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_October_2024-20241110151800","replies":["c-Romaine-20241110151800-This_Month_in_GLAM:_October_2024"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Romaine-20241110151800-This_Month_in_GLAM:_October_2024","timestamp":"20241110151800"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Romaine-20241110151800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-This_Month_in_GLAM:_October_2024-20241110151800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Romaine-20241110151800-This_Month_in_GLAM:_October_2024&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;This Month in GLAM: October 2024&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;This Month in GLAM: October 2024&quot;}--></div></div></div> <table style="width:100%;"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" align="center" style="border:1px gray solid; 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Learn</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2024/Contents/Colombia_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2024/Contents/Colombia report">Colombia report</a>: ¿Por qué y para qué usar Wikidata en Colombia? / Why and for what purpose should Wikidata be used in Colombia?</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2024/Contents/Italy_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2024/Contents/Italy report">Italy report</a>: Empowering Italian GLAMs</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2024/Contents/Kosovo_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2024/Contents/Kosovo report">Kosovo report</a>: Edit-a-thon at the City Museum of Mitrovica</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2024/Contents/Latvia_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2024/Contents/Latvia report">Latvia report</a>: Wikidata Workshop 2024: National Library of Latvia</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2024/Contents/Netherlands_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2024/Contents/Netherlands report">Netherlands report</a>: Highlights from the Third Wiki Loves Fashion Campaign in the Netherlands</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2024/Contents/New_Zealand_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2024/Contents/New Zealand report">New Zealand report</a>: Auckland Museum Wikimedian in Residence, Te Maori edit-a-thons &amp; NZ Species edit-a-thons</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2024/Contents/Macedonia_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2024/Contents/Macedonia report">North Macedonia report</a>: WIKIMEDIA MKD's successful GLAM programme!</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2024/Contents/Poland_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2024/Contents/Poland report">Poland report</a>: What's up in GLAM-Wiki in Poland</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2024/Contents/Spain_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2024/Contents/Spain report">Spain report</a>: General Archive of the Palace</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2024/Contents/UK_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2024/Contents/UK report">UK report</a>: Memory of the World baseline</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2024/Contents/USA_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2024/Contents/USA report">USA report</a>: October meetups</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2024/Contents/Biodiversity_Heritage_Library_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2024/Contents/Biodiversity Heritage Library report">Biodiversity Heritage Library report</a>: BHL-Wiki Working Group October monthly highlights</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2024/Contents/AvoinGLAM_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2024/Contents/AvoinGLAM report">AvoinGLAM report</a>: European encounters</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2024/Contents/Memory_of_the_World_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2024/Contents/Memory of the World report">Memory of the World report</a>: Baseline report</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2024/Contents/Wikidata_report" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2024/Contents/Wikidata report">Wikidata report</a>: Wikidata's 12th birthday celebration</li> <li><a href="https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2024/Contents/Events" class="extiw" title="outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/October 2024/Contents/Events">Calendar</a>: November's GLAM events</li></ul> </div> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="font-family:Times New Roman; 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If you haven’t yet had a chance, there is still time to participate– we’d truly appreciate your feedback. The survey is anonymous and should take about 10-15 minutes to complete. You may read more about the study on its <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia_Administrator_Recruitment,_Retention,_and_Attrition" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia Administrator Recruitment, Retention, and Attrition">Meta page</a> and view its <a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator_Experiences_2024_Survey_Privacy_Statement" class="extiw" title="wmf:Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator Experiences 2024 Survey Privacy Statement">privacy statement</a>. </p><p>Take the survey <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/962595?lang=en">here</a></b>. </p><p>Kind Regards, </p><p><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Research" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Research">WMF Research Team</a> </p><p><bdi lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="/wiki/User:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User:BGerdemann (WMF)">BGerdemann (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User talk:BGerdemann (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:41, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a> </bdi><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241113004100","author":"BGerdemann (WMF)","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004100-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-A_smart_kitten-20241118235700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Your_message_to_PenultimateStride-20241118235700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-A_smart_kitten-20241118235700-Your_message_to_PenultimateStride&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Your message to PenultimateStride&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Your message to PenultimateStride&quot;}--><h2 id="Your_message_to_PenultimateStride" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_message_to_PenultimateStride-20241118235700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_message_to_PenultimateStride-20241118235700"></span>Your message to PenultimateStride<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_message_to_PenultimateStride-20241118235700"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-A_smart_kitten-20241118235700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Your_message_to_PenultimateStride-20241118235700","replies":["c-A_smart_kitten-20241118235700-Your_message_to_PenultimateStride"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-A_smart_kitten-20241118235700-Your_message_to_PenultimateStride","timestamp":"20241118235700"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-A_smart_kitten-20241118235700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Your_message_to_PenultimateStride-20241118235700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-A_smart_kitten-20241118235700-Your_message_to_PenultimateStride&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Your message to PenultimateStride&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Your message to PenultimateStride&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A_smart_kitten-20241118235700-Your_message_to_PenultimateStride"></span>Hi Smuckola, I came across <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1258090016" title="Special:Diff/1258090016">this message</a> you left at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:PenultimateStride" title="User talk:PenultimateStride">User talk:PenultimateStride</a>. With respect, I believe that your statement that <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">everyone must declare all of their multiple accounts and their reasons, without exception</q> is not correct. To give a couple of examples, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Clean_start#Notification_and_permission" title="Wikipedia:Clean start">editors making a valid clean start</a> are not required to declare their prior accounts (as this would defeat many aspects of making a clean start), and editors who have a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PRIVATESOCK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PRIVATESOCK">valid alternate account for privacy reasons</a> are also not required to connect their accounts. Although I obviously cannot be certain that this is the case, PenultimateStride's statement that they have <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">had a few accounts before [...] [b]ut right now [PenultimateStride is] the only one [they] use</q> strikes me as potentially describing a legitimate clean start scenario (i.e., having previously used different accounts, but no longer using them in favour of a newer account), which would not cause a requirement to disclose. </p><p>Given this, I would greatly appreciate it if you could edit the message you left PenultimateStride and/or leave them a follow-up note, in order to rectify what I believe was a misstatement of the Sockpuppetry policy. I've left you a message here rather than replying at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:PenultimateStride" title="User talk:PenultimateStride">User talk:PenultimateStride</a> myself, as I thought that leaving you a note like this would be better than what could be seen as me (effectively) saying "I think Smuckola's wrong" in front of someone you messaged; however, I apologise if you would have rather I'd followed-up with PenultimateStride myself. </p><p>Let me know if I've worded anything badly, and/or if you have any questions about anything I've said. Best wishes, <span class="skin-invert" style="color:#000"><span style="">‍—‍</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:A_smart_kitten&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:A smart kitten (page does not exist)"><span style="color:purple">a smart kitten</span></a><sub>[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:A_smart_kitten" title="User talk:A smart kitten"><span style="color:#c814c8">meow</span></a>]</sub></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smuckola#c-A_smart_kitten-20241118235700-Your_message_to_PenultimateStride" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:57, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A_smart_kitten-20241118235700-Your_message_to_PenultimateStride"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241118235700","author":"A smart kitten","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-A_smart_kitten-20241118235700-Your_message_to_PenultimateStride","replies":[],"displayName":"a\u00a0smart kitten"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A_smart_kitten-20241118235700-Your_message_to_PenultimateStride"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002500-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message&quot;}--><h2 id="ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002500"></span>ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002500"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002500","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002500-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002500-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message","timestamp":"20241119002500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002500-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message&quot;}--></div></div></div> <div class="ivmbox" style="margin-bottom: 1em; border: 1px solid #a2a9b1; background-color: #fdf2d5; padding: 0.5em; display: flex; align-items: center;"> <div class="ivmbox-image noresize" style="padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002500-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello! Voting in the <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2024" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2024">2024 Arbitration Committee elections</a></b> is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 2 December 2024. All <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024#Election_timeline" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2024">eligible users</a></b> are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once. </p><p>The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBCOM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBCOM">Arbitration Committee</a> is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration">Wikipedia arbitration process</a>. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. 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