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If it's commonly used in jazz or other genres then perhaps someone could expand on these areas. <a href="/wiki/User:Ophir" title="User:Ophir">Ophir</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Flatpicking#c-Ophir-2006-01-07T02:07:00.000Z-Expand" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:07, 7 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ophir-2006-01-07T02:07:00.000Z-Expand"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ophir-2006-01-07T02:07:00.000Z-Expand"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(2)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="POV_tag" data-mw-thread-id="h-POV_tag-2008-08-24T05:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-POV_tag-2008-08-24T05:52:00.000Z"></span>POV tag<span data-mw-comment-end="h-POV_tag-2008-08-24T05:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Flatpicking&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: POV tag" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-11' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-98.111.149.253-2011-10-02T00:38:00.000Z-219.73.89.163-2008-08-24T05:52:00.000Z">13 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-2 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-2"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-219.73.89.163-2008-08-24T05:52:00.000Z-POV_tag"></span>This is opinion, and not NPOV: </p><p>"Proper use of a flatpick (plectrum) enables the player to establish, maintain and contribute to a good 'in-the-pocket' groove while playing. Employing down-picks on the down-beats and as important, but rarely utilized properly by most players, up-picks on the up-beats, according to the rhythmic/beat-style of a song, for playing rhythm and for playing solos, enables a guitarist to achieve virtuosity at the guitar." </p><p><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/219.73.89.163" title="Special:Contributions/219.73.89.163">219.73.89.163</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:219.73.89.163" title="User talk:219.73.89.163">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Flatpicking#c-219.73.89.163-2008-08-24T05:52:00.000Z-POV_tag" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:52, 24 August 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-219.73.89.163-2008-08-24T05:52:00.000Z-POV_tag"><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-219.73.89.163-2008-08-24T05:52:00.000Z-POV_tag"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-98.111.149.253-2011-10-02T00:38:00.000Z-219.73.89.163-2008-08-24T05:52:00.000Z"></span>The only folks who think that's opinion, rather than established fact, are those who can't pick fast. EVERY flatpicking teacher I've heard talk about the subject says to play your upbeats with up-picks and your downbeats with down-picks (until you're playing 8th notes at 240 beats per minute and faster, which is indicitive of "virtuosity"). <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.111.149.253" title="Special:Contributions/98.111.149.253">98.111.149.253</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:98.111.149.253" title="User talk:98.111.149.253">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Flatpicking#c-98.111.149.253-2011-10-02T00:38:00.000Z-219.73.89.163-2008-08-24T05:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:38, 2 October 2011 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-98.111.149.253-2011-10-02T00:38:00.000Z-219.73.89.163-2008-08-24T05:52:00.000Z"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-98.111.149.253-2011-10-02T00:38:00.000Z-219.73.89.163-2008-08-24T05:52:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(3)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Request_for_discussion:_scope_of_this_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_for_discussion:_scope_of_this_article-2008-09-24T15:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_for_discussion:_scope_of_this_article-2008-09-24T15:17:00.000Z"></span>Request for discussion: scope of this article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_for_discussion:_scope_of_this_article-2008-09-24T15:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Flatpicking&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Request for discussion: scope of this article" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-12' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Chuckiesdad-2008-10-31T02:59:00.000Z-Chuckiesdad-2008-09-24T15:17:00.000Z">16 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-3 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-3"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chuckiesdad-2008-09-24T15:17:00.000Z-Request_for_discussion:_scope_of_this_article"></span>I would like to open a conversation about the nature of this article. Is it best left as a definition of the term Flatpicking? Or would a more in-depth article similar to <a href="/wiki/Fingerstyle_guitar" title="Fingerstyle guitar">Fingerstyle guitar</a> be appropriate? Please see the edit by Loom91 on Sept 17 2007 that removed everything except the definition. There doesn't seem to have been any discussion around this, either before or after. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Chuckiesdad" title="User:Chuckiesdad">Chuckiesdad</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chuckiesdad" title="User talk:Chuckiesdad">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Flatpicking#c-Chuckiesdad-2008-09-24T15:17:00.000Z-Request_for_discussion:_scope_of_this_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:17, 24 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chuckiesdad-2008-09-24T15:17:00.000Z-Request_for_discussion:_scope_of_this_article"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chuckiesdad-2008-09-24T15:17:00.000Z-Request_for_discussion:_scope_of_this_article"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chuckiesdad-2008-10-31T02:59:00.000Z-Chuckiesdad-2008-09-24T15:17:00.000Z"></span>No discussion yet, but I've re-added most of the content, with some corrections and updates. Needing references. <a href="/wiki/User:Chuckiesdad" title="User:Chuckiesdad">Chuckiesdad</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chuckiesdad" title="User talk:Chuckiesdad">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Flatpicking#c-Chuckiesdad-2008-10-31T02:59:00.000Z-Chuckiesdad-2008-09-24T15:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:59, 31 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chuckiesdad-2008-10-31T02:59:00.000Z-Chuckiesdad-2008-09-24T15:17:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chuckiesdad-2008-10-31T02:59:00.000Z-Chuckiesdad-2008-09-24T15:17:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(4)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Deleted_content" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deleted_content-2008-10-31T04:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deleted_content-2008-10-31T04:17:00.000Z"></span>Deleted content<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deleted_content-2008-10-31T04:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Flatpicking&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Deleted content" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-13' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Chuckiesdad-2008-10-31T04:17:00.000Z-Deleted_content">16 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-4 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-4"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chuckiesdad-2008-10-31T04:17:00.000Z-Deleted_content"></span>Following content was removed from lead section of article: <i>Using a flatpick gives a sharper and brighter sound than finger picking, while finger picking is more flexible and gives a richer and more variable tone. For this reason, <a href="/wiki/Classical_guitar" title="Classical guitar">classical guitars</a> are almost always finger-picked.</i> Removed because this is only true if finger picking is with bare fingers, since (often) metal finger picks give a sharper and brighter sound than (usually) plastic flat picks (or thumb picks). This is also a fine point about <a href="/wiki/Fingerstyle_guitar" title="Fingerstyle guitar">fingerstyle guitar</a> that might fit in that article but not in the lead section of this one. <a href="/wiki/User:Chuckiesdad" title="User:Chuckiesdad">Chuckiesdad</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chuckiesdad" title="User talk:Chuckiesdad">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Flatpicking#c-Chuckiesdad-2008-10-31T04:17:00.000Z-Deleted_content" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:17, 31 October 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chuckiesdad-2008-10-31T04:17:00.000Z-Deleted_content"><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chuckiesdad-2008-10-31T04:17:00.000Z-Deleted_content"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(5)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Definition" data-mw-thread-id="h-Definition-2012-05-31T10:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Definition-2012-05-31T10:52:00.000Z"></span>Definition<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Definition-2012-05-31T10:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Flatpicking&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Definition" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-14' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Ophir-2014-09-20T15:36:00.000Z-Nurg-2012-05-31T10:52:00.000Z">10 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-5 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-5"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nurg-2012-05-31T10:52:00.000Z-Definition"></span>The definition is unclear. Is flatpicking: </p> <ul><li><i>the</i> technique of playing a guitar using a pick held between two or three fingers, or</li> <li>one of a number of techniques for playing a guitar using a pick held between two or three fingers.</li></ul> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Nurg" title="User:Nurg">Nurg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nurg" title="User talk:Nurg">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Flatpicking#c-Nurg-2012-05-31T10:52:00.000Z-Definition" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:52, 31 May 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nurg-2012-05-31T10:52:00.000Z-Definition"><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nurg-2012-05-31T10:52:00.000Z-Definition"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ophir-2014-09-20T15:36:00.000Z-Nurg-2012-05-31T10:52:00.000Z"></span>I changed my original definition from 2006. Since then, virtually all the web references to the term flatpicking are in the bluegrass genre and I think there may be some confusion over whether the term is relevant to any other genre. To differentiate classical guitarists from those using a plectrum, a style known as 'Plectrum Guitar' was coined but it has nothing to do with flatpicking. It may be hard to define the term and to some extent it is also a style; suffice to say that Dan Crary is a flatpicker; Eric Clapton uses a plectrum. --<a href="/wiki/User:Ophir" title="User:Ophir">Ophir</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ophir" title="User talk:Ophir">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Flatpicking#c-Ophir-2014-09-20T15:36:00.000Z-Nurg-2012-05-31T10:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:36, 20 September 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ophir-2014-09-20T15:36:00.000Z-Nurg-2012-05-31T10:52:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ophir-2014-09-20T15:36:00.000Z-Nurg-2012-05-31T10:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(6)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Johnny_Bond" data-mw-thread-id="h-Johnny_Bond-2014-09-20T15:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Johnny_Bond-2014-09-20T15:36:00.000Z"></span>Johnny Bond<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Johnny_Bond-2014-09-20T15:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Flatpicking&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Johnny Bond" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-15' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Ophir-2014-09-20T15:36:00.000Z-Johnny_Bond">10 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-6 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-6"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ophir-2014-09-20T15:36:00.000Z-Johnny_Bond"></span>From the few clips I have seen of Johnny Bond, he only strummed an acoustic guitar with a flat pick. Can anyone say if he actually played flatpicking tunes? --<a href="/wiki/User:Ophir" title="User:Ophir">Ophir</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ophir" title="User talk:Ophir">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Flatpicking#c-Ophir-2014-09-20T15:36:00.000Z-Johnny_Bond" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:36, 20 September 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ophir-2014-09-20T15:36:00.000Z-Johnny_Bond"><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span 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