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We’ve been asked by many people, mostly junior/mid career faculty, to quickly record a podcast on <a rel="nofollow"href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/05/opinion/biden-age-health.html">ageism</a> and the elections. People are feeling conflicted. On the one hand, they have concerns about cognitive fitness of candidates for office. On the other hand, they worry about ageism. There’s something happening here, and what it is ain’t exactly clear. We need clear eyed thinking about this issue.</p> <p>In today’s podcast, Louise Aronson, author of <a rel="nofollow"href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/elderhood-redefining-aging-transforming-medicine-reimagining-life-louise-aronson/7178364?ean=9781620405475"> Elderhood</a>, validates that this conflict between being concerned about both fitness for the job and alarmed about ageism is exactly the right place to be. We both cannot ignore that with advancing age the prevalence of cognitive impairment, frailty, and disability increase. At the same time, we can and should be alarmed at the rise in ageist language that equates aging with infirmity, and images of politicians racing walkers or a walker with the presidential seal. Ken Covinsky reminds us that we should not be making a diagnosis based on what we see on TV, and that if a patient’s daughter expressed a concern that their parent “wasn’t right,” we would conduct an in depth evaluation that might last an hour. Eric Widera reminds us of the history of the <a rel="nofollow"href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater_rule">Goldwater Act</a> created by the American Psychological Association in the 1960s which states that psychiatrists should refrain from diagnosing public figures, and the <a rel="nofollow"href="https://code-medical-ethics.ama-assn.org/ethics-opinions/ethical-physician-conduct-media"> American Medical Association</a> code of ethics which likewise discourages armchair diagnosis (rule established in 2017).</p> <p>We frame today’s discussion around questions our listeners proposed in response to our <a rel="nofollow"href="https://x.com/AlexSmithMD/status/1811186182812000430">Tweets</a>, and are grateful for questions from Anand Iyer, Sandra Shi, Mike Wasserman, Ariela Orkaby, Karen Knops, Jeanette Leardi, Sarah McKiddy, Cecilia Poon, Colleen Christmas, and Kai Smith. We talk about positive aspects of aging, cognitive screening, the line between legitimate concerns and ageism, ableism, advice for a geriatrician asked to comment on TV, frailty and physical disability, <a rel="nofollow"href="https://www.economist.com/leaders/2024/07/04/why-biden-must-withdraw"> images</a> in the <a rel="nofollow"href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2023-10-02"> press</a>, historical situations including , and an upper age limit for the Presidency, among other issues.</p> <p>Of note, we talk about candidates from all parties today. We acknowledge concerns and speculation that others have raised about candidates across the political spectrum, current and former. We do not endorse or disclose our personal attitudes toward any particular candidate. Fitness for public office is a non-partisan issue that applies to all candidates for office, regardless of political party.</p> <p>There’s something happening here, and what it is ain’t exactly clear.</p> <p>Strong recommendation to also listen to this terrific podcast with another geriatrician all star, <a rel="nofollow"href="https://www.mprnews.org/episode/2024/07/09/aging-and-presidential-politics"> Jim Pacala</a>, on MPR!</p> <p>-<a rel="nofollow"href="https://x.com/AlexSmithMD">@AlexSmithMD</a></p> <p> </p></div></span></div><div class="seeMorebtn seeMorebtn_up"><img class="img" 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