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I absolutely love it.”<br />―<span><strong>Paula Froke, editor of<em> The Associated Press Stylebook</em></strong></span></p><p>“<span><em>The Conscious Style Guide </em></span>will inspire writers and their editors to make choices that not only respect readers but, in the process, bring us all a little closer to the truth.”<br />―<span><strong>Russell Harper, principal reviser of<em> The Chicago Manual of Style</em></strong></span></p><p>“An essential resource for writers and editors who want to get up to speed on writing with empathy and care.”<br />―<span><strong>Mignon Fogarty, host of the <em>Grammar Girl </em>podcast</strong></span></p><p><span></span></p></div></div></div></div><div class="et_pb_row et_pb_row_2"><div class="et_pb_column et_pb_column_4_4 et_pb_column_3 et_pb_css_mix_blend_mode_passthrough et-last-child"><div class="et_pb_module et_pb_search et_pb_search_0 et_pb_text_align_left et_pb_bg_layout_light"><form role="search" method="get" class="et_pb_searchform" action="https://apvschicago.com/"><div> <label class="screen-reader-text" for="s">Search for:</label> <input type="text" name="s" placeholder="Search Me" class="et_pb_s" /> <input type="hidden" name="et_pb_searchform_submit" value="et_search_proccess" /> <input type="hidden" name="et_pb_include_posts" value="yes" /> <input type="hidden" name="et_pb_include_pages" value="yes" /> <input type="submit" value="Search" class="et_pb_searchsubmit"></div></form></div></div></div></div><div class="et_pb_section et_pb_section_2 et_section_specialty" ><div class="et_pb_row"><div class="et_pb_column et_pb_column_3_4 et_pb_column_4 et_pb_specialty_column et_pb_css_mix_blend_mode_passthrough"><div class="et_pb_row_inner et_pb_row_inner_0"><div class="et_pb_column et_pb_column_4_4 et_pb_column_inner et_pb_column_inner_0 et-last-child"><div class="et_pb_module et_pb_text et_pb_text_2 et_pb_text_align_left et_pb_bg_layout_light"><div class="et_pb_text_inner"><h1 class="entry-title" style="text-align: center;">Welcome to AP vs. Chicago: A Style Guide for Editors, Writers, and Word Nerds</h1><p style="text-align: center;">by Karen Yin</p><p><span>I started </span><em>AP vs. Chicago</em><span> to keep track of style and usage according to the popular style guides </span><em><a href="http://www.apstylebook.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Associated Press Stylebook</a></em><span> and </span><em><a href="http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Chicago Manual of Style</a></em><span>.</span></p><p>A copy editor with 20-plus years of experience, I make it my job to keep up with changing styles and the evolution of language (or devolution, as the case may be). 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